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April 19, 2021 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Ask Charlie Anything 59: The Left's Dangerous Motivation, Court Packing, A 13-Year-Old Shot in Chicago, and MORE!
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What is going on with Chicago of the shooting of a 13-year-old?
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Hi, Charlie.
Always love the show and what you're doing to conserve our freedoms and the greatness of our country.
Thank you.
If the Democrats, against all likelihood, are able to pack the Supreme Court, are Republicans able to reduce it back to nine when they are in power?
This assumes the Democrats get rid of the filibuster in order to pack it in the first place.
It seems like the easier play would be to pack it again and just keep adding justice as the concept of getting back to nine makes the most sense.
How would we determine which justice to remove?
Thanks, Jeff.
Well, look, this idea of packing the courts is now getting into the mainstream because the Democrats are focusing their time and their attention and their resources on expanding the conversation.
Nowhere in the Constitution does it say that you need nine justices.
That has just been precedent for quite some time.
Instead, Democrats know that the Supreme Court in its current composition is going to uphold a natural rights doctrine of first principles and a textualist originalist approach.
Now, what did Ruth Bader Ginsburg have to say about packing the court?
Let's see.
Cut 71 says it rather clearly.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg saying that she does not support packing the court.
Play tape.
I think that was a bad idea when President Franklin Delano Roosevelt tried to pack the court.
If anything would make the court appear partisan, it would be that one side saying when we're in power, we're going to enlarge the number of judges so we will have more people who will vote the way we want them to.
So I am not at all in favor of that solution.
Not at all in favor of packing the court.
But the Democrats, they're not really concerned about what they said previously.
In fact, Joe Biden, when he was senator, said that packing the court is a terrible idea.
So why are they doing this now?
It's because Democrats are growing impatient.
You have Democrats that are in their late 70s and early 80s that are running the Democrat Party, and they want to see the revolution that they've desired come to pass now.
And they don't think they're ever going to get another chance at it.
And they're combining their interest with late 20, early 30-year-old activists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Rashida Talib, Ayana Presley, and others that believe this is a moment for radical Marxist revolutionary change in our country.
Cut 93, we have not played this one.
Senator Markey from Massachusetts on the need to expand the United States Supreme Court about the court's legitimacy.
Cut 93.
And I'm disappointed to say that too many Americans question the court's legitimacy.
The consequence is that the rights of all Americans, but especially people of color, women, and our immigrant communities are at risk.
We have a stilted, illegitimate 6'3 conservative majority on the court that has caused this crisis of confidence in our country.
What if I told you that one of the most corrupt nations in the world tried court packing?
Venezuela packed the court with Hugo Chavez allies many years ago.
Hugo Chavez won his first election in 1999, and the Supreme Court was independent.
They were one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
But after it issued several rulings against him, Chavez said, I don't like that.
You see how all these despots work in the same behavioral pattern?
So then Chavez said, you know what?
I'm going to pack the court, expanding its size for the Venezuelan Supreme Court from 20 to 32.
This was back in 2004.
Chavez is dead.
He was not a good person.
So Chavez got to pick all 12 of those new justices, basically saying the Supreme Court in Venezuela will not be independent.
It will be the Chavez Court.
So there's been a lot of research done on the 45,000 rulings that have happened in Venezuela ever since.
And the court has never sided against Chavez since that took place.
Canova, this is from a Foxnews.com article, who's a researcher, said, quote, since 2004, I found that Chavez and the government never lost a case, not a single one.
So what is the role of the United States Supreme Court?
It's to interpret the constitutionality and the legality of the laws and the actions of the other branches of government.
Why is that important?
Well, it's important because if you do not have an impartial mediator or adjudicator of differences, then you're slowly and then suddenly going to find yourself ruled by despots and tyrants.
The United States Supreme Court, which originally was able to establish itself under this process called judicial review, in a U.S. Supreme Court case of Marbury versus Madison, which was somewhat of a technical case, but it was about appointments from a prior administration.
If my memory serves me correctly, it was Thomas Jefferson's administration that put this person Marbury in a position, and then James Madison's administration, the fourth American president, sued about this.
It was somewhat of an inconsequential situation, but it actually established, I believe it was John Marshall, who was the U.S. Supreme Court, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, who then established this idea of judicial review.
It basically said that, hey, the Supreme Court's going to be a co-equal branch of government.
This is not just some theory.
This is a real thing.
And from that point forward, we had some of the most consequential U.S. Supreme Court decisions from McCullough versus Maryland to the unfortunate, unconstitutional, and immoral decision of the Dred Scott case, which, by the way, every single justice in the Dred Scott case that ruled blacks as not human beings was a Democrat.
Just a nice side note.
But the U.S. Supreme Court, since its charter and its founding, was supposed to be a non-political, impossible-to-influence branch of government, but a co-equal one.
It's not supposed to make laws.
It's not supposed to be a legislative branch.
But unfortunately, in recent years, we've started to indulge into this idea of the Supreme Court making law.
And I agreed with some of his decisions, but I think that Justice Kennedy made a huge mistake in the gay marriage decision.
Massive mistake.
Because it wasn't that Justice Kennedy was arguing under the Equal Protection Clause.
No, he decided to overturn dozens of other states that said marriage is between one man and one woman.
So instead of interpreting the law, he overturned dozens of state-based laws that defined marriage as one man and one woman.
Basically turning the U.S. Supreme Court into a legislative body.
So what the Democrats are now doing is they're saying, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Alito, Thomas, and Amy Coney Barrett, we don't like your political views.
We don't like the way you're going to rule on guns, on speech, on immigration, rule of law, private property.
So now we are going to dilute your influence by adding additional seats to the U.S. Supreme Court.
That's really what's happening here.
Now, this is not going to happen immediately, but the same way that we conservatives lost the gay marriage debate, the same way that we conservatives lost the Green New Deal debate in the sense that multi-trillion dollar bills are spent immediately, that everything is infrastructure.
And I kid you not, a congressman from New York actually said packing the U.S. Supreme Court is infrastructure.
I kid you not.
That we are now heading in a direction where they're going to win the court-packing decision.
So, well, how should we Republicans respond?
Republicans should respond as doing this.
They should have a press conference called Shrink the Court.
That if a liberal justice passes away, they're not going to fill the seat.
That instead of diluting, we're going to increase the power of Amy Coney Barrett, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Alito, and Thomas.
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Hey, Charlie, Linda from New Haven says, you talked about the bloody 20s last week on your podcast, but since then, there have been at least three more hyper-publicized mass shootings or officer-involved shootings.
This was a seemingly rare occurrence in four years under Trump.
Why all of a sudden do you think we're seeing such a sharp uptick?
Linda from New Haven.
Thank you, Linda.
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Why are things becoming more violent?
And I encourage all of you to check out our Bloody 20s podcast.
We are heading for the most violent decade in American history.
In fact, a social psychologist predicted this 10 years ago.
I can't remember his name.
He wrote a long piece on it and he was ridiculed for it.
And everything he predicted is coming true.
Number one, people can't take the madness in their heads any longer.
They can't.
There's too much noise and not enough truth.
These phones are driving people chemically insane.
The dopamine rushes, the highs, the lows, the instant gratification, the search for meaning, the lack of purpose, the lack of aim, the lack of direction.
People that already have borderline schizophrenic issues are now more likely to engage in violence than ever before.
As church attendance goes down, as marriage rates go down, as newborn children go down, as people not finding satisfaction or meaning in their job goes down, alcoholism goes up and opioids go up, don't be surprised when all of a sudden violent crime is going to go up alongside of it.
You see, human beings have a list of things that they need.
People need certainty and uncertainty.
Isn't that a wonderful charm that God made human beings that way?
We need things we can count on and things we can't count on.
We also need significance in one way or the other.
We need to be cared for by somebody, whether it be a friend, a boss, an employer, a co-worker, a spouse.
We need to feel as if our action matters to somebody else.
And I tell people all the time: go do something that matters to somebody else and you will then be significant.
Well, you know how some people find themselves to be significant?
Whether we like it or not, go shooting up a FedEx, that makes you significant.
In the most perverse, evil, awful way, you're significant.
You might be in the hood and you might be someone that is not very important, doesn't have a great life in front of you.
But all of a sudden, the moment you take a firearm and you put that firearm on somebody's head, you go from someone that's not important to really important in that moment.
Boom, immediately.
Another reason is I think we are over-medicating our society.
We are eating terribly in our country.
I'm going to do a whole podcast on how awful people eat.
No one should ever drink any of that soft drink garbage out there.
Stop it.
Drink water, coffee, or tea.
I'm telling you, it's contributing to the madness.
Fresh vegetables, fresh fruits.
Get rid of your saturated fats.
I think all of this contributes to an unhealthy trend that will contribute to violence.
I do.
We're seeing testosterone rates plummet amongst men in our country.
The media hates when I talk about this, so I make sure I talk about it at least once a week.
That men are less manly today than any other time in human history.
So what does that all mean?
I'm not saying violent crime is necessarily an output of all those things, but those things contribute.
And so a pretty easy way to address this is protect yourself, obviously, and protect your family, buy weapons and buy firearms.
But if we do not teach people earned success and they indulge in instant gratification, don't be shocked or surprised when people then start breaking into other homes, burning down small businesses, burning down police cars to go find that need for purpose and significance.
And this is what's so dangerous about some of these activist movements is that they purport to be on the side of the angels that they're going to give upper middle class people significance when in reality it does the opposite.
It's rooted in destruction, not building.
So here's a really good test for yourself.
Two things.
Number one, are you building something or being part of building something every single day?
A family, a church, a community, a business, an enterprise.
Number two, if you didn't show up to something, would you be missed?
Would people look around and say, hey, we need that guy around.
He's doing something helpful for other people.
He's running a shift at a local grocery store.
He's running a manufacturing plant.
He's helping run a radio show.
If you can't answer those two things, then you have a crisis of purpose and a crisis of meaning.
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George P. from Kentucky says, Trevor Noah called the police system a bad tree that creates bad fruit.
What happened to comedy?
Well, congratulations, George P. You win a signed copy of the MAGA Doctrine.
Let's play Cut 81 of Trevor Noah.
Because we're told time and time again that these incidents that black Americans are experiencing are because of bad apples, right?
There are bad apples in these police departments who are doing these things.
They use chokeholds that are not allowed.
They use excessive force.
They're violent in their words and their actions to the people they're meant to be protecting and serving.
These are bad apples.
We've got to root them out of the force.
My question, though, is: where are the good apples?
If we're meant to believe that the police system in America, the system of policing itself is not fundamentally broken, then we would need to see good apples.
And by the way, I'm not saying that there are no good policemen.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm asking where the good apples are.
And what I mean by that is, where are the cops who are stopping the cop from putting their knee on George Floyd's neck?
Because there's not one cop at that scene.
There's one cop who's on trial, but there's not one cop at that scene.
You know?
Where are the other cops when Philando Castile is losing his life?
Like, where are the cops?
You know, where are the good apples?
I think Trevor Noah is giving Plato a run for his money as far as deep intellectual thoughts.
And Trevor Noah is not funny nor wise.
Here's a story for you, Trevor Noah.
Texas police officer saves five children from burning home.
A police officer in Texas ran into a burning home to save five children and one adult.
Sam Click, a Seagoville police officer, was on patrol and he discovered the front of a duplex home engulfed in flames in the 700 block of Casa Grande Drive the morning of August 25th.
Saved five children from imminent death.
Now, Trevor Noah, this is actually not hard.
Do you know what I typed into Google?
Police officer saves lives.
And there are, oh, how convenient.
676 million results on Google of police officer saves lives.
How about this one?
Officer saves man's life after shooting in Jacksonville.
The story says, quote, a shooting victim is in stable condition thanks to the quick actions of a Jacksonville sheriff's officer.
Police are saving lives every single day, Trevor Noah.
And to use the analogy of the tree and the apples, and he says, well, we have a whole bad system.
You see, that's what Trevor Noah is trying to say, a couple bad apples.
Well, now, actually, I'll go a step further.
I'm going to say the system of policing in America has actually helped black America.
Let's go to Cut 82, where the Plato of our time, Trevor Noah, continues.
And honestly, I believe we don't see them not because there are no good people on the police force.
I think there are many people who are good on the police force.
That's why they join because they want to do good.
But I think it's because they themselves know that if they do something, they're going against the system.
The system is more powerful than any individual.
The system in policing is doing exactly what it's meant to do in America.
And that is to keep poor people in their place.
Who happens to be the most poor in America?
Black people.
You monetize them, you imprison them, which monetizes them again.
It's a system.
And once you realize that, I feel like you get to a place where you go, oh, we're not dealing with bad apples.
We're dealing with a rotten tree that happens to grow good apples.
But for the most part, the tree that was planted is bearing the fruit that it was intended to.
You hear that?
That's a parable, I think, right?
Sort of.
I don't even know.
Or analogy.
Instead of the allegory of the cave, we now have to do that.
We have to now descend ourselves into the allegory of the rotten tree.
Again, he's a comic.
He should stick with that.
I don't think he's even funny.
I don't.
Nor do I think he's wise.
And so, first of all, Trevor Noah, way more unarmed whites are killed every single year than blacks.
And the number one input variable, prerequisite that Trevor Noah never wants to talk about is how blacks don't have fathers.
That's that simple.
Trevor Noah, I have a homework assignment for you.
Instead of making meaningless TikTok videos, I think that was actually posted on TikTok.
Why don't you read a book called Discrimination and Disparities?
You guys can also see a summary of it at thinker.org.
And here's the main thesis of discrimination and disparities by Thomas Sowell.
Just because something has disparate outcomes does not mean you can blame discrimination for it.
It's a pretty simple argument.
So for example, do you know that the United States of America has 80% of all the tornadoes on the planet happen in the United States of America?
80% of all the tornadoes on the planet.
Is that because of racism?
No, it's actually because of weather patterns and wind and solar flares.
A lot of other contributing factors play into the fact that America has 80% of all the tornadoes on the planet.
Discrimination can't possibly be an input prerequisite for that.
How about single parent prerequisite?
One of the most telling and predictive inputs of a child's success in life, and this is very important for all you new parents out there that listen to our program, is how many words a child hears every single day.
It's true.
If a child hears 3,000 or more words a day, they are exponentially more likely to have a high IQ and succeed.
If they hear 1,000 words or less a day, they're much more likely to have a low IQ, less curiosity, less likely to learn.
Okay.
If you have a two-parent household with a stable family and grandparents and family members in the home, is that child likely to hear more words or less words every single day?
Why are coastal cities more likely to be wealthy than inland Midwestern cities?
Why are river towns more likely to be wealthy than mountain towns?
Is it because of racism and discrimination?
No.
Proximity, trade routes, capacity to do commerce.
The point that Thomas Sowell makes, and Trevor Noah refuses to acknowledge it because it takes wisdom, intelligence, nuance, honesty, and deliberative thinking and not pathological narrative building, is that when you have a society with millions of prerequisites and input variables, there might be other things at play other than discrimination, besides discrimination.
Like how many words does a black child hear at home?
When's the last time you heard anyone on television mention that?
Or how about that a black kid raised by a mother and a father is more likely to succeed than a white child raised by a single mother?
It's a fact.
There are numerous input variables for what might be considered success in our country.
But Trevor Noah is under the belief that the whole system works.
So he says, wait a second, we monetize black people and then imprison them and monetize them again.
I'm not quite following Trevor Noah.
What you're really trying to say here is that there's a white supremacist monetization conspiracy scheme to try and Imprison black people because we make money off of them?
Not exactly the case.
Instead, you should be asking the question: huh, why are there 727 black-on-black homicides in Chicago and Milwaukee every single year?
Why is that the case, Trev?
Is that, Trevor, is that KKK members and white people going into downtown Chicago and slaying black people?
Of course not.
It's blacks killing blacks.
And you see, what Trevor Noah and so many others refuse to acknowledge is that the core family unit is irreplaceable.
A 2015 Justice Department analysis of the Philadelphia Police Department found that white police officers were less likely than black or Hispanic officers to shoot unarmed black suspects.
Black officers were 67% more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect.
Hispanic officers were 145% more likely than white officers to mistakenly shoot an unarmed black suspect.
Research by Harvard economist Roland G. Fryer also found no evidence of racial discrimination in shootings.
So that is a fact.
Not a narrative.
Trevor Noah is a narrative builder.
He is much more rooted in building pathological emotive.
I won't even call it an argument.
That's not even fair to people that build arguments.
I guess sentences.
According to the Washington Post, nine unarmed black people were killed by police in one year.
Nine.
And out of those nine, some of them had weapons nearby.
Some of them were in cars.
Some of them threatened to kill police officers.
Some of them were charging police officers.
And only three of those nine have police officers that were convicted by a jury of their peers for any form of murder.
So why the focus on it?
Number one, in the digital social media age, there are highly emotional videos that can be misinterpreted.
Number two, there are people that want to do crime that have been trying to get rid of the police for quite some time.
And want me to prove, number three, that police officers are not racist and they actually don't only go after black people.
Ask any white person that you know that when they see a police officer in the rearview mirror, do they get nervous or do they get they don't care?
Every person, regardless of skin color, when they see a police officer and they're driving, gets nervous that they're going to get caught texting while they're driving or pulled over.
Every person.
This idea of racial profiling when it comes to policing is not rooted in science or facts.
But Trevor Noah wouldn't tell you that because no one gets powerful when that actually is true.
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We got a question here about Adam Toledo and the situation happening in my hometown of Chicago.
And as we predicted, there is outrage happening in great numbers.
Adam Toledo was a 13-year-old from Chicago.
He was shot on March 29th.
He was with a known gangbanger, Ruben Roman, 21-year-old, who was arrested at the scene of the crime of the shooting, and he has been arrested on an unrelated warrant earlier this month.
Officers charged him with child endangerment, aggravated unlawful use of a weapon by a felon, and reckless discharge of a firearm.
So before I go through this, let me just say Ruben Roman should be the focal point of all criticism here.
Ruben Roman is the bad guy in this situation.
And I'm going to walk you through what's really happened here.
Okay, so the 2 a.m. hour, officers were responding to eight shots fired according to police radio traffic released by authorities.
So someone shot eight shots somewhere at 2 a.m.
Footage shows Eric Stillman, who I think is the police officer, catching Roman, the 21-year-old criminal thug, and then passing him off to his partner while he continues to chase Adam Toledo down a narrow alleyway.
Now, before I go any further, it's very clear that Adam, being a 13-year-old, was being groomed by Ruben Roman to be a gangbanger.
That's what they do.
They find these 12 and 13-year-olds and they put them in a situation of crime.
It's an evil, immoral, manipulative thing to do.
So, Stillman and Toledo, the encounter between them lasted about 20 seconds.
In the final seconds of the encounter, on a body camera, a police officer can be heard repeatingly saying to Adam, stop and show me your effing hands.
The officer, the police officer, then chases Toledo and can be heard on the radio transmission that he's chasing someone who's, quote, holding his waistband.
The video, according to police, shows a gun in Toledo's right hand as he nears an open area of the fence next to an empty lot.
And surveillance video from behind the fence shows Adam throwing the gun.
Adam Toledo then turns to his left towards the officer, and what the police says is the gun disappears behind the right side.
Toledo then begins to raise his hands as he's facing the police officer when the officer fires his weapon.
All happens in less than an eighth of a second, eight-tenths of a second.
The officer had to make a decision in less than eight-tenths of a second, possibly be shot or shoot someone who has a firearm after you heard that eight shots were fired.
Stillman runs towards Toledo, the police officer, and actually offers him medical aid.
He did not want this 13-year-old to die.
After calling for help and confirming they had a gunshot victim by the police, the officer said, Where are you shot, man?
Where are you shot?
Stay with me, stay with me.
He did not want Toledo to die.
After attempting medical aid, Stillman stood up and paced, and at least half of a dozen other officers arrived.
This police officer knew that he was in an unfortunate situation where he's going to be wrongly blamed.
And you can just imagine the weight of the moment that's coming over him.
The mayor of Chicago says no one should have to look at this video broadcast widely.
So here's what we have.
Here's the situation, just so you know it, as factually and as precisely as I can say it.
A gangbanger was grooming a 13-year-old to become a ruthless murderer.
He was bringing him alongside, and eight shots were fired by somebody.
This 13-year-old was being brought along and was being chased and pursued by the police.
A moment of confrontation happens where Adam Toledo has a weapon.
And by the way, he was found with firearm residue on his hand, gun residue.
Had gunpowder residue on his hands, which means he probably fired the weapon.
Possibly.
Speculation.
And Toledo, who was brought into the situation by this gangbanging thug, met with law enforcement, drops the gun, but in an eighth-tenth of a second, this police officer has to make a decision, and he goes bang, and Toledo dies.
That is not murder.
That is a 2.30 a.m. situation of self-defense with an unfortunate outcome.
And there is one person to blame.
And he's not going to get the blame, of course, because the police are going to get the blame here.
And that is Ruben Roman, a known gangbanger, who was arrested at the scene of the shooting on a misdemeanor charge.
Now, where Adam Toledo's parents were, where his parental influence was, I don't know.
It's not a situation any of us want to see happen.
Do not pursue outrage or emotion, but instead, facts.
Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
Email us your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com.
God bless you guys.
Talk to you soon.
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