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Hey everybody, what would I say if I had a meeting with Joe Biden?
In fact, I would enjoy having a meeting with Joe Biden.
There is something that he can do for our country that would legitimately offer healing and well-being for this divide that we're in.
Will he do it?
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Hello.
I'm old enough to remember when Donald Trump signed a bunch of executive orders, random judges from Hawaii used to overturn everything he did.
Yeah, that's true.
Where's our random judges from Alabama just saying, nope, you can't do that, can't do that.
I guess we have to sue and then the judge could intervene.
But we do have the AG from Texas saying that he issued a statement saying that he was going to stand up against federal overreach, but that's TBD.
Yeah, we'll see what happens there.
So I want to get into this idea of what would I say in a 10-minute meeting to Joe Biden.
And basically, I would say something very simply.
We agree on basically nothing.
I am a political opponent of yours, and I'll remain a critic of yours.
I'll praise you if you ever do anything right.
But you say you want to unify the country.
And the only thing that we ask out of you is that you both privately and publicly state that those of us that are conservative grassroots organizers that have a different philosophical view of how to bring this country, different political view to bring this country, that we are not people that are worthy of perpetual surveillance, infiltration, and a domestic war on terror against us.
Do we have that commitment from you?
That's it.
That would be my complete and total message.
And mind you, could you imagine if President Trump back in June said that we need a new domestic war on terror against Black Lives Matter, BLM Incorporated?
Remember what happened to Senator Tom Cotton when he recommended or suggested President Trump sign the Insurrection Act to go against BLM Incorporated rioters, and some would call them, based on the new way we do definitions in this country, domestic terrorists.
Remember the outrage when President Trump called Antifa domestic terrorists?
Because right now, they are going after federal court buildings in Seattle and Portland.
They are going after Democrat Party offices, which, by the way, would be under the definition of terrorism because any violence done politically or for a political objective is under the FBI definition of terrorism.
Remember when government-funded research studies said the dangers of designating Antifa as a terrorist organization?
Now, President Trump never did any of that.
He never recommended a new domestic war on terror.
Of course not.
That is what I would ask Joe Biden.
In fact, Joe Biden, if he really wants to bring the country together, he should have a monthly meeting called the Civil Discourse or the Heal the Divide meeting, where he brings in once a month different grassroots conservatives that have followings and he listens.
Now, Barack Obama, to his credit, in the early days of his presidency, actually did this when he was debating health care.
No one really remembers this, but Barack Obama brought in all the conservatives into the White House, aired it, and Paul Ryan got some clips against Obama, and there was a lot of back and forth.
That was back in, boy, 2009, 2010, when Obama first became president.
And so the question is, why won't Biden do that?
Where's the action on how to unify the country?
Well, so far, his definition of unity is abolishing thousands of jobs through the Keystone XL pipeline and beating the drums of war in his inaugural address, not giving any sort of distinctions or differences.
Glenn Greenwald gave a great point.
He said, it would be one thing if the Democrats weren't talking so open-ended on this.
It'd be one thing if the Democrats were using organizational names, membership, plots, plans, locations, and strategy.
It'd be one thing if it was like, okay, there's 600 armed KKK people in Northwest Arkansas, and we need to probably do something about them.
Instead, it's these platitudes of just open-ended criticism.
We need to go after political extremism.
Hold on a second.
I'm old enough to remember when Ted Cruz was called a political extremist.
What about Ilhan Omar?
We're at it.
Does she fall in the purview of this?
Well, just so you're clear, AOC is a self-described political extremist, political radical.
Remember?
There's a clip in my head somewhere in this vast, confused library of information where AOC says, if this makes me a radical, then so be it, I'm a radical.
Something like that.
Yeah, no, I roughly remember what you're talking about.
Yeah, and it's and it's before, you know, there was this siege on the think about all the things that have happened in the wake of the Capitol violent, right?
1776 used to be a marker of pride.
Like we look back at 1770.
Now they now they say, oh, conservatives, you say 1776, that means you want an armed militia to lead an insurrection over the government.
If you used the word fight in politics, like we want to fight for our country and we're going to fight for what's right.
Now they take that to mean, that's the new F-word.
They take it to mean armed fighting to violence in the streets.
And it's like, well, no, actually, what is being exposed here and what you're really getting at, Charlie, is that sort of charged political language is just part and parcel of the American political experience.
And AOC and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib embrace it just as much as a Ted Cruz or Senator Hawley ever have.
The question is this: Is Joe Biden the president of the Democrat Party or is he the president of the country?
It's that simple.
Because if he's the president of the Democrat Party, what he's doing is exactly what a president of the Democrat Party would do.
Is he president of the whole country?
I want to know times, dates, conversations, and takeaways of every conversation Joe Biden has had or his team with a Trump voter.
Now, mind you, a Trump voter is not like a rhinoceros in the African jungle, okay?
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John Brennan, alongside Joe Biden, are calling for aggressive domestic action against extremists, against radicals is a word they've used.
Well, will AOC be surveilled, monitored, and infiltrated?
Play tape.
What you are talking about, just big picture, is a radical agenda compared to the way politics is done right now.
Well, I think that it only has ever been radicals that have changed this country.
Abraham Lincoln made the radical decision to sign the Emancipation Proclamation.
Franklin Delano Roosevelt made the radical decision to embark on establishing programs like Social Security.
That is radical.
Do you call yourself a radical?
Yeah, you know, if that's what radical means, call me a radical.
If that's what radical means, call me a radical.
And that was all from my memory.
Very good.
I do remember that clip.
You had a little bit better grasp of it.
I think we should all agree that her, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Talib, she's got, what, Corey Bush now?
There's a couple new squad members, actually, as of the new Congress.
But I think they're all radicals, and I think they would gladly embrace it, and so would Antifa, and so would BLM.
And if that's what we're calling domestic terror, then certainly I think we should have a discussion about it.
We should have a conversation about it.
Let me say, I don't think AOC should be monitored, surveilled, or being infiltrated against.
So Joe Biden needs to be a lot more specific when he talks about this.
And he's not.
He's being intentionally nonspecific.
And so if he were to actually try to heal the country, mind you, he's only 24 hours into the job right now, but he would announce a healing commission, a conversation commission, because they're always talking about having conversations, right?
Where he has conservatives.
And I actually mean this.
This is something that Peter Doocy should ask.
In fact, I'll try to get it to him.
Say, hey, Jen, thanks for calling on me.
When's the last time anyone in this building has talked to a Trump voter?
Has anyone ever talked to a Trump voter in this entire building?
Has anyone ever talked to anyone that is around the shaping of what it means to be a Trump supporter?
Has anyone?
Because you do know that 75 million people marked off Donald Trump back in November.
That's a lot of people.
More than anybody else.
Again, here's the divide: Are you the president of the Democrat Party or are you the president of the country?
Donald Trump made overtures, specific outreaches to Democrats, hosting Van Jones in the White House, criminal justice reform.
I was once at an event and I saw Mitt Romney at the White House as a senator while he was trying to impeach the president.
President Trump did this time and time again.
Now, again, I'm not saying that Joe Biden hasn't done it.
We're a day into it.
But his language is not exactly showing us that or foreshadowing that he is going to be doing anything like this anytime soon.
No, absolutely not.
Again, I think this idea of unity versus freedom, this is a juxtaposition.
They want unity.
They don't want freedom.
They don't want freedom to disagree.
Because if you disagree with the Democrats and the left and the establishment media right now, they look at it as spreading disinformation.
And they look at it as spreading lies.
So they keep referencing.
If you listen to their language very quickly, they keep saying, oh, we're going back to the truth.
We're going to stop disinformation.
We're going to attack disinformation.
And the truth is, the real truth is that they just don't like people that disagree with them.
They don't like people that have a different value.
Well, it's a threat to their power.
Let's go to Cut 96, where Peter Doocy says, well, how are you going to impeach a president while also doing this unity thing, Cut 96?
Does he think that Nancy Plosi and Chuck Schumer should drop a potentially divisive Senate impeachment trial?
Well, he spoke today, as you all saw, about unity in his inaugural address.
Just like the American people can, the Senate can also multitask and they can do their constitutional duty while continuing to conduct the business of the American people.
And he's going to leave the mechanics, the timing, and the specifics of how Congress moves forward on impeachment to them.
Nothing was answered in that answer.
I think that was a wonderful act of not answering.
It's actually pretty impressive.
That was a 25 seconds.
I think of that as the low point of the entire press briefing.
And, you know, of course, the one hostile media member of the media in there, and Peter Doocy is a really nice guy.
He's not going to attack her or bite her or anything.
But what I mean is he's going to ask actual questions that we want to know here on the right of center.
Will Saki ever have a Jim Acosta?
No.
No, of course not.
I mean, you know, listen, there was, again, one person asked a question about abortion, and she goes, oh, Joe Biden's a devout Catholic, and he went to Mass this morning.
Like, as if that answered the question.
Does not answer the question about how he supports the abortion.
But show some leadership.
Show some leadership.
Say that he's the leader of the party, and yeah, he's going to tell him to stand down for the sake of the country.
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What can Biden do to heal the country?
Well, Politico has some ideas that are laughable at best.
One of them is actually two of them are okay.
The rest are unbelievable.
And they're actually really worth looking at.
Because this is where the left thinks they can unite the country.
So this is the most important thing.
So, okay, Biden, you want to unite the country?
How do you want to do it?
Our idea was basically just talk to us and admit 75 million people are not a domestic enemy.
First idea.
Number one, root out extremism in the military ranks.
Goes through here and it says that we need extra screening for people in the military.
This is by, it's like a series of essays.
This one's by Heidi Beitrich and someone Singh.
Two dozen thinkers, according to Politico.
Here's the other one.
Reaff the First Amendment.
I agree with this one.
It says that Biden needs a sista solja moment.
That's what it says, word for word.
The greatest threat to his administration won't be Republicans in Congress to Donald Trump, loyalists, or loyalists outside of Washington.
It will be from the hard left pushing him into an illiberal policy after another.
They are loud and influential, yes, but a whole lot of centrist liberals who abhor Trump are queasy as they watch BLM and other militants bullying corporations, university banks, and stores to go all out anti-racist and purge the right.
This is smart.
This guy is Mark Bowerlin, editor at First Things.
Very, very smart.
Okay, this is where it starts to get into some of these other ideas.
A White House task force on white supremacy.
Goodness gracious.
Call out new threats to freedom in America, like racial injustice.
Okay.
A civil communication corps.
I don't even know what that would mean.
I read this guy's essay.
It's really not very specific.
Punish politicians who lie.
I wonder which ones would actually get punished.
Punish.
The word punish.
Punish.
Update national standards for U.S. history, such as the integration of Indigenous people, studies, Black Lives Matter 1619 project.
Invest in digital platforms.
I agree with that one.
Rebuild a shared reality, which means that we must have fact checkers in every single form of American society.
A new Voting Rights Act, because the last one has been so terrible, saying that we need a new compromise and commission that will change the way we vote in this country.
Basically, arguing for universal voting, vote by mail.
A truth and reconciliation commission, not the one that you might think, but one that can help us heal through our wounds of racial injustice.
There is increase access to affordable housing.
And this is from Politico.
These ideas that they have to unify the country, which of course they're working in tandem with people in the Biden administration.
Investigate Trump's treatments of immigrants.
Right.
Yeah, let's just continue to investigate it.
Reparations for black Americans.
Will Kamala Harris have to pay the reparations because her ancestors owned slaves?
Well, she's also married to a white gentleman.
So I don't know.
I don't know how they're going to do that.
A week of national mourning for COVID victims.
That's fine.
A push for better masks.
Okay.
Nonpartisan, no-nonsense virus strategy.
Again, President Trump's virus strategy was fine.
It was terrific.
Lower drug prices for the pandemic and beyond, something that President Trump actually did.
A 21st-century WPA.
I'm not exactly sure what that is.
It really doesn't even say what the acronym is.
Works progress administration.
American-made pharmaceuticals.
I agree with that one.
And then finally, reinvest in the working class.
So that's what their idea of unity is.
Now, the one I really think is interesting that I want to focus on is make sure we protect the rights of speech for all Americans.
Yeah, I think we could all agree with that, actually.
And I do, I just, sorry, Charlie, I just want to point out a SISTA soldier moment.
I had to look it up because you brought it up.
I didn't bring it up.
I was reading the policy.
I mean, yeah, what a moment.
Exactly.
But it's a politician's calculated public repudiation of an extremist person statement or group that is perceived to have some association with the politicians' own party.
Oh, there you go.
Okay.
So it would be a sista soldier moment would be the Democrats saying Antifa is bad, denouncing Antifa.
Biden has federal troops going after Antifa.
So I guess that's perfectly allowed right now.
So nothing says unifying the country like a Senate trial.
Let's go to Cut 97, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer saying that there will be a trial.
Cut 97.
Speaker Pelosi will determine when she will send the articles over.
Leader McConnell and I are trying to come up with a bipartisan agreement on how to conduct the trial.
But make no mistake about it.
There will be a trial.
There will be a vote up or down on whether to convict the president.
I believe he should be convicted.
And that is the Senate Majority Leader who has a 50-50 tie in the U.S. Senate.
Yeah, I couldn't disagree more, and it's just really sad.
I mean, it's not going to happen.
I genuinely don't believe he's going to get convicted.
You might have McConnell.
You might have Romney.
You might have Claire McCaskill.
My goodness.
Murkowski.
You might have Sass.
I think you get to 55 votes.
I think you get to 55, 56 votes.
You're going to be 40%.
Well, I think what's going to happen, though, well, you need 66 to convict yourself.
Oh, is it two-thirds?
I think it's 236.
But I think what you'll have is a bunch of Republicans that give anti-Trump speeches, but they say the fact we're even doing impeachment is wrong, so we're voting against the props.
They're going to try and split the baby, which is going to upset the base.
And frankly, it's going to put a target on their back.
You want to divide the country, go and peach a guy who's on the back nine in Mar-a-Lago or Trump National.
By the way, his popularity is still extraordinarily high.
Yes.
No, even yes.
But even with Raspberry Pi, it's like 48%.
So Congressman Brad Schneider is from Illinois 10th Congressional District.
He took Congressman Bob Dold, D with an E, a D, not an E.
I worked on his campaign way back when, seat, and he's held it ever since.
He was asked bluntly, would you like to see more monitoring of radical domestic movements?
Play tape.
Would you like to see more monitoring of radical domestic movements?
Well, the short answer is yes.
That's the purpose of this bill.
Well, AOC, I hate to break it to you.
You're getting monitored.
Yeah, and we're about to use your taxpayer to the best.
Oh, by the way, it says radical.
It doesn't even say insurgent.
I think we all know what it means, Charlie.
No, no, but it's very important that we go through.
Language matters, right?
Remember, they've been beating with us for four years.
Words matter, Charlie.
Words matter.
Just look at his Twitter feed.
I can't.
Only because you're a white extremist, Charlie.
This is the difference.
So, Brad Schneider is trying to put forward this new Patriot Act.
And so, here's Joe Biden saying on Cut 72: If you're ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone.
I promise I will fire you on the spot, on the spot.
No ifs, and buts.
This was some of his remarks at the White House talking to his staff.
And I wonder if Joe Biden thinks the same about Trump supporters.
Play 72.
If you're ever working with me and I hear you treat another colleague with disrespect, talk down to someone.
I promise you I will fire you on the spot.
On the spot.
No if, ands, or buts.
Everybody, everybody is entirely treated with decency.
Everyone's entitled to be treated with decency.
I think that's what he was trying to say.
We have to get used to this new kind of way of thinking.
You have to translate.
Joe Biden is president.
You just have to kind of just blur it all together, but that's okay.
And so I wonder if Joe Biden thinks that Trump supporters need to be treated with decency.
He has yet to address this head on.
And all we're asking for is a little bit of nuance, Joe Biden.
Just a little bit.
Just the same nuance, by the way, that President Donald Trump afforded to the people over the summer when President Donald Trump said, a lot of people are peacefully protesting, and I honor your right to peacefully protest, but violence will never be tolerated.
That was nuanced.
He said that word for word over the summer.
In fact, the day after, this is the day after Joe Biden got sworn in, right?
Are there massive protests right now in the streets of anywhere?
No.
Are there massive backlash?
No, I could tell you what was happening, though.
The day after Donald Trump won the presidency, took the office.
Madonna went to Washington, D.C., and she said, I have thought about blowing up the White House.
That was her idea of unity.
In other news, Washington, D.C.'s mayor has just amazingly, stunningly decided to lift the ban on indoor dining.
You know, what's interesting about this, though.
They think you're stupid.
I hope you know that, right?
I know.
What's interesting about this, though, is right after the election, things got worse, not better.
Remember?
And a lot of people were talking about, oh, well, we missed that one because we all hypothesized that it was going to get better.
The pandemic was going to go away.
But they waited.
They waited till he waited office.
Yeah, till he took office.
And now, what have we heard?
We've heard that Lori Lightfoot, the mayor of Chicago, is saying, because you guys are all breaking the rules, we need to make it legal again to eat indoors in Chicago so that we can actually have some mitigation efforts in place.
You guys are breaking the law anyways, essentially.
We're going to make you come out in the open.
What did you hear from Governor Cuomo, New York?
That we have to do this so we have something to return to.
Rumor has it that the same thing you're going to hear out of California.
Listen, we hope that life does go back to normal, but this is so transparently politically motivated.
They've been using the pandemic in 10 different ways to hurt the American people.
It should disgust all of us.
And it's so transparent.
It's painful.
And guess what?
The media is not going to talk about it.
The media is not going to hold them to account.
No.
And so what the Democrats have done kind of brilliantly is that people don't actually agree with Democrat policies.
Don't even agree with Democrat ideas.
So right.
Most people are Democrats because they're afraid they're going to be called a racist.
That's why they're Democrats.
They're like, well, I'm not a racist, therefore I'm a Democrat, which is the opposite of the roots of the Democrat Party and opposite of actually their viewpoints on race.
Jason Whitlock has talked about this and he compared BLM Incorporated to KKK, Cut 80.
Well, I compare Black Lives Matter to the KKK.
I really do.
And some people don't understand it.
But if you go back to the 1860s, after the Emancipation Proclamation, the KKK was started and it was the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party.
And what's the enforcement arm of the Democratic Party right now?
Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
That's right.
And so if you step out of line, they're going to send BLM Incorporated after you.
They will send Antifa after you.
If you do not subscribe to every single Democrat policy and allow them to be in control and in charge of everything forever, we are going to ruin your life.
Yeah, and what I love about this segment is that it takes a guy like Whitlock to speak that kind of truth because it's a bold thing to say, especially on national television.
But I love how fearless he was in saying it.
And in the segment just before, you hear them talking about faith and how it's actually our faith.
And as you and I, Charlie, are evangelical Christians.
It's our faith that informs the fact that we see human beings for their decisions, for their character.
We do not look at immutable characteristics and judge that person for their worth.
It's just not something our faith would allow us to do because all are made in the image and likeness of God.
And so we value each human the same.
And what Jason Whitlock and Tucker were talking about is how it's actually a secularist, anti-theist view that would look at somebody and then create this construct of value based on skin color.
We just don't do it on the right.
Or at least we shouldn't.
And those that are not part of the right.
That's the point.
They're identitarians that are on the fringe and they do their own thing that isn't part of the decent conservative.
It's distorted and corrupted ideologies.
Absolutely.
That's exactly right.
And so Joe Biden has an opportunity in front of him.
Joe Biden could be the president of the country or he could be the president of the Democrat Party.
To be the president of the country, he has to start courting and talking to Trump voters.
He has to start courting and talking to grassroots conservatives.
And he can disarm a lot of the opposition if he does that.
And actually, it's in his political interest to do that.
But if he decides to dig in and say, no, half the country is mine, half the country is not, that is one of the most divisive, not unifying things a president could possibly do.
We got some questions here.
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What is the difference between equity and equality?
I want to dive into that.
Andrew found a really good definition that I think is a helpful starting point.
Yeah, absolutely.
Equality versus equity.
A lot of people think that it means the same thing.
And in this new administration, you are going to hear it.
You're going to hear equity a whole lot more than you're going to hear equality.
And there's a reason why.
The difference between equality and equity is that although both promote fairness, equality achieves this through treating everybody the same, regardless of need.
So same under the law.
We are all God's children.
All have the same value.
Justice is blind.
Equity, on the other hand, achieves this through treating people differently dependent on need.
So equality is treating people the same.
Equity is treating people differently based on need.
And so there's a couple different ways to look at this.
And we'll get a picture up on the live stream of how the left tries to frame equity versus equality.
And one of the, look, there's equality under the law, which is moral and is necessary.
Then there's equality of opportunity, which is moral and admirable, hard to achieve, but we should always try to get towards it.
Then there is equity, which is equal outcome, or try to redistribute outcomes to try to make everyone's outcome the same.
That is immoral and impossible to achieve.
And this is an important distinction because equality under the law, first and foremost, is the most important thing that we have in a civil and free society.
That the law should treat everyone the same, regardless of your skin color, regardless where you come from, regardless of your political views or your religious views.
That everyone should have the same experience through the judicial system or through at least the application of the law.
Now, that is not always the case.
Sometimes you can get really good lawyers.
Sometimes you can get off on things.
Sometimes people that don't have as much money do not have the same experience in the judicial system as someone that does.
However, equality of the law, the pursuit of that ideal has always made America a different country, a better country, and a more moral country.
Equality of opportunity would be trying to advocate for school choice programs, trying to rebuild the American family, trying to say we want people to have a more equal starting point.
Equity, though, would be redistributing people's goods, services, and wealth to try to have a desired outcome.
So, for example, they would say, you know, the average black income in the country is less than the average white income.
The only thing that could possibly explain that is bitter, awful southern-style segregation racism.
Therefore, we must redistribute via reparations or some other programs to try to make that right, try to right that wrong.
Never even talking about reconstructing the American family, any of these different sorts of aspects.
And the problem with equity is that you'll never end.
There'll be a never-ending list of trying to redistribute and trying to, quite honestly, find a group that believes that they are in need of somebody else's stuff and wealth.
Yeah, it fuels grievance, the grievance industry.
The mobilization of grievances is what the left does today.
Well, they need it.
They actually need it for you to think that their policies make any sense.
Because without it, if you just say, listen, under the Trump economy, it was actually the most widespread economic boom in generations.
The lowest 10%, their wages were actually growing at a faster clip than the top 10% under the Trump economy.
So their whole grievance industry was getting drowned out by real results of the free market.
Nevertheless, they have to tell you that this system isn't working right for this group of people.
Therefore, you need equity.
And there is this little picture.
This is one of the images the left uses to promote its ideas.
They say, look, if you just give everybody the same, the tall person's going to be able to see the game and the short person won't.
So what we have to do is we have to give two crates to the little short guy on the right so he can see the game too.
That's not so bad, is it?
Everybody pays their fair share and everybody gets to watch the game.
The problem is, is that there's no way to fairly distribute.
Everybody will always have different grievances.
And it's actually an idea rooted in cultural Marxism.
That's right.
It will be a never-ending carousel of the mobilization of grievances.
And plus the guy that has the extra step up, did he work for it?
Did he work his way through school for it?
Did he sacrifice for it?
Did he save for it?
And are there other reasons why someone might be able to do it?
So that kind of picture is an overly simplified, quite honestly childish way to try to craft public policy.
Oh, but that's how they do it.
That's how they convert people is with these overly simplified ways that say, oh, I want everybody to watch the game.
That makes sense to me.
That's not such a big deal.
But the problem is it doesn't work nearly that clean in real life.
Right.
And if you want the complete and total redistribution of outcomes, you are going to live in a very dark and quite honestly boring society where no one is incentivized to create, take risks, or aspire to be a better person.
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