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Oct. 14, 2020 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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A Memo From a Deep State Insider: The Coup Against President Trump Exposed

US Army Veteran and Former Director of Strategic Planning for the National Security Counsel, Rich Higgins, who spent 20 years combating terrorism and information warfare, joins Charlie to discuss his new book, ‘The Memo: Twenty Years Inside...

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Welcome to this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, joined by my friend and total American patriot, Rich Higgins, author of the memo, a terrific book that everyone should pick up.
20 Years Inside the Deep State, Fighting for America First.
Rich, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Hey, Charlie, thanks for having me.
The Deep State Threat 00:08:09
So, Rich, the kind of the phrase deep state is thrown around a lot.
What is it?
How deep is it?
And some people say it doesn't exist.
Please build it out for us.
I think four or five years ago, people would have said it doesn't exist.
I think people now are beginning to understand it's very real.
And it's the unelected government, basically, right?
It's the chairman of the joint staff pushing back against the president.
It can be Judge Sullivan keeping General Flynn, you know, dragging him through the mud for three or four years now.
These are people that we, the people, didn't elect.
We didn't put into power.
Yet they exercised a tremendous amount of authority over us.
So how did this happen?
How did the deep state get staffed, created?
And just kind of be as specific as you can because a lot of people are either unwilling or unable to see the full picture.
Well, I think you have to go back a number of years.
There's some of it is just sort of normal ebb and flow of governance, right?
I mean, bureaucracy does its thing.
And so there's a natural inclination in these institutions that have tremendous resourcing, tremendous amount of authority.
I mean, the Defense Department alone spends $700 billion a year.
Most people can't even comprehend that type of money.
And so there's a natural sort of belief that takes root that you can do what you need to do and you respond to the people over you.
I think though what's happened, particularly in the past really 30, 40 years, but it really came to the forefront during the Obama administration is that craven opportunists like Hillary Clinton got themselves into positions where they were able to put their own networks inside of these institutions and then wield power within the institutional bureaucracy through corruption,
graft, political pressure, blackmail, et cetera.
And so much of what President Trump has been doing for the past couple of years has been battling this residual corruption.
So you write about this in the book, The Memo.
Tell us a little bit about the book.
And it says, read the actual memo that caused a firestorm inside the White House and around the world.
What is the memo?
Well, back in 2016, I had been one of the counterterrorism advisors for the Trump campaign.
And then, you know, certain, so we knew early in the campaign that, you know, we weren't colluding with Russia.
I mean, that was just ridiculous.
Clearly, it was Hillary Clinton's political.
What shocked us was that after November 8th, the operation seemed to intensify.
And, you know, I had worked in the Pentagon for a number of years in the black operations world where we would do things like what we were seeing happen to President-elect Trump and then President Trump.
We would do things like this to Saddam Hussein, for example, where we would leak his transcripts or leak the transcripts of his generals plotting against him.
And yet we see with President Trump, they were leaking his phone calls to the president of Mexico, his phone calls to the president of Australia.
And so we began to say, well, what's really happening here?
Well, several of us at the National Security Council saw what was going on and the new movie How Plot Against the President elaborates on this.
We began looking at, okay, what's really going on here?
And in an effort to warn the president and then some of the people I'd met around the campaign, some of your friends, right, Don Jr. and others, wrote a memo that basically laid out what I thought was the scope of what was happening.
Now, at the time, I was operating with a very finite amount of knowledge and wrote it not knowing that what we know now.
There was a crossfire hurricane.
There were all these operations.
They were spying on the president.
They were trying to subvert and sabotage him.
And General McMaster wasn't a big fan of that.
And he moved to have me removed.
And it created a little bit of a firestorm in the summer of 2017.
So there's a lot I want to unpack there.
So I remember when this memo kind of came to light, and I remember the backlash, and I remember people talking about it.
Has anything improved?
I think a lot has improved.
I mean, I think the president putting in John McIntyre in particular, it's a huge upgrade.
I love Johnny.
He is absolutely 1,000% MAGA.
And I think the president, you know, I've only met with the president a couple of times over the years.
The president understands much more fully now the nature of the fight he was walking into, right?
I mean, it was difficult for a businessman who, you know, even though he knew maybe he was going to have to learn a few things to manage the government, you're never expecting anything like this, right?
There was no historical precedent.
You know, Lincoln had to sneak into Washington, D.C. because he came here to stop the spread of slavery to the new states, right?
I think President Trump probably should have snuck into Washington, D.C., because he had been elected, I think, to stop this leftist revolutionary drift in the country.
And that was the unspoken point of MAGA, right?
It was this counter-revolutionary movement that he is now the leader of.
And I think he thought these institutions were perhaps what we think of the citadels of the West, right?
You never think of FBI as someplace where leftism exists, right?
Or the CIA as a leftist entity.
But today we see they are.
So, yes.
Why do Republicans in Congress refuse to acknowledge and recognize this?
I think the simplest way to describe it is: if you look at the left, they have interest in socialist programs, statistic development, the control of government, right?
But they're globalist in their orientation.
It's for the betterment of the world.
If you look at the right, their tendencies to be, you know, profit-based, corporate-based chamber-type stuff, but also globalist in their orientation.
And the common denominator between the two tends to be they're global, they share these globalist networks.
And so it's been a process of education.
And I think the president's doing this, it's just slow.
And the American voter is doing this.
It's just slow.
We're slowly seeing the change in the Republicans, and some are dragging their feet, and some are outwardly opposed to the president.
But, you know, the Republican Party is facing a critical choice here, not unlike the Whig Party did in 1854, right?
We are either going to move to address this communist socialist drift, or we're going to go the way of the dodo bird.
We're going to disappear in a new party, for example, when the Republican Party was born to stop the splitter of slavery.
I think there are a lot of historical, you know, historical similarities there.
Can you comment on how sophisticated and how well-staffed some of these agencies of government are by people that actually bitterly hate our country?
I can give you an anecdote, right?
I mean, it's just an anecdote, but it's one of those things that shocked me into the reality of it.
In probably 2011, I was in the Pentagon.
I was with one of the advisors to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
We had stopped by a gift shop there to pick up a bank that she wanted to give to him at the time.
We go into the gift shop, we see all these little statues there.
One of the statues there is of Ronald Reagan.
She looks at the Ronald Reagan statue, and it has a little quote under him.
She looks at it, she looks at me, and she says, I wouldn't buy that statue unless it had a bullet in its head and blood coming out.
So there are several of them inside.
Now, how pervasive that is, I don't know.
But what concerns me the most is that the upper echelons of these institutions were selected by other members of this Marxist movement to be promoted, to be put in these positions of power because they subscribe to this leftist Marxist dogma.
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They think the people are an impediment.
They're an obstacle for their kind of dominion over the American homeland.
In fact, they don't even want an American homeland.
You're right.
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Special Counsel Investigations 00:15:52
Someone is placing these people into government.
Someone is making these decisions.
Who are these people?
Well, I mean, let's just look, for example, at Peter Strzok, infamously a member of the Crossfire Hurricane Team, the leader of the Crossfire Hurricane Team, if you will, at least from the FBI standpoint.
After he was removed, you know, from his role as a day-to-day officer executing special agent duties, where did they put him?
Human resources, right?
And I think, you know, the fact that they would use him to vet potential candidates coming into the FBI should have been a huge red flag going up for everybody.
What is going on here?
But we've seen this.
And what worries me is we saw it inside the Defense Department as well.
I did a stint as a professor over at the National War College.
And, you know, I had a student there who was a Navy SEAL captain, 06, soon to be admiral.
He was asked to write a master's thesis.
And he told me, you know, I would like to write about terrorism, jihadi, Islam, all these other subjects, things that he'd been dealing with for the 10, 12 years we'd been at the war at that time.
But no, he wanted to write about the environment as a risk.
Well, why?
I asked him.
He said, because I know the people who will choose me to be admiral will want to see that.
And that tells you kind of what's going on inside these institutions.
There's a slant where they've so infiltrated key positions.
So when I say this, it's not that they are everywhere in the department, but because they naturally gravitate towards positions of influence, things like the IG, the general counsel's office, the personnel office, they're not necessarily in command or the CEO.
The old CIA adage always was: you don't need to recruit the general, just recruit the janitor.
And that's what these guys have done.
They found the keynotes inside the bureaucracies and know how to utilize them.
Who is doing that, though?
Who is the architect of this plan?
What are the names of these people?
Well, you know, some of them, Valerie Jarrett, John Podesta, right?
And then there's the guys behind folks like Act Blue, there's David Brock, the Soroses of the world.
Some of them are very well known.
Some of them are lesser knowns.
But I think we focus on the big money people and we focus on the media personalities.
But what your listeners need to recognize is that this fight is going on in your neighborhood.
It's in your school council.
It's on your school board.
It's in your community council, your homeowners association.
So if you sit back and throw your hands up and say, oh, it's too much to do.
No.
The thing that we have as conservatives, we just want the government to leave us alone.
Well, with this threat, they're not going to leave you alone.
You have to get engaged.
You have to take on those civic responsibilities.
And yeah, it's a burden.
If you're trying to raise a family and do all that stuff, going to a school board meeting isn't sexy.
But if you don't want your kids being taught Marxism, it's pretty important.
And so what's really happening, as you're saying, is a multi-institutional offensive strategy by these people to take over our republic.
And we've seen it in the agency.
We see it in the Department of Education.
We see it in every single way imaginable, where now a president's orders are completely disobeyed.
Can you tell us what your opinion is of what happens if Biden takes office and the kind of reversal of a lot of these things?
Wow, I think I'll keep it brief and we can really go into this.
I don't think Biden will ever take office.
Biden is a stalking horse candidate for Kamala Harris and her mark.
She is part of the California lawyer Marxist cabal with other folks like Holder, with Val Jarrett's part of that same crowd and several of them.
But she was chosen by the hidden Democratic Party power establishment to be kind of their, if you will, vessel in the presidency.
And so Biden is out there perhaps as a getaway car, right, or for Crosswater Hurricane.
But also, he at least appears vanilla to people who've known him for a long time.
And he doesn't fall into historically the AOC categorization.
But Kamala is the most left-wing senator we have.
And we need to be mindful of this going into the voting booth or if you're early voting.
I mean, she is a true revolutionary candidate.
And the people behind her are even worse.
I try to tell this to a lot of voters, and some people aren't believing.
They're not saying it.
They're like, oh, Joe Biden is a good old moderate.
And I think we have to pivot.
In my opinion, I told this to the president.
I said, you are not running against Joe Biden.
Just talking about Kamala Harris all day long.
You're talking about Biden way too much, way too much.
Ignore him.
He should just attack Kamala Harris nonstop at every campaign rally.
It should be all about, it would drive Biden insane, and it would also make the media confused.
And they would cover it.
He should go an entire rally where he just talks about Kamala the entire time.
And it would change the paradigm because the media, in some ways, would find themselves having to defend Camela.
And the entire infrastructure of the Democrat Party actually agrees with Camela.
And they know Joe is someone that can win over senior citizen voters like he's running to be the head of the villages.
So what do you make about that?
I think you should challenge her to a debate.
I think that's exactly what he needs to do.
And I think, you know, we need to really get our minds around the idea of Attorney General Keith Ellison, where, you know, I mean, guy is an open supporter of Antifa, you know, talks and talks openly about seditious activities, going after conservatives.
I mean, the thing that I think is most frightening is we're battling these institutions right now, recognizing that at least within the White House, we have an ally, right?
And he's trying to battle back against these institutions on our behalf.
What I fear is that, you know, this, you know, the cabal behind Kamala, you know, the cabal that's behind Biden, candidly, these are the same folks who spied on the president, who, you know, illegally wiretapped his campaign.
These are the folks who, you know, basically, you know, they attempted to conduct a coup.
They failed for one reason.
And the only reason they failed is because the president, using instinct alone, fired Comey.
Now, everybody says, oh, you know, we shouldn't have fired Comey.
That's where the special counsel came from, everything else.
Bannon holds that view.
Continue.
Bannon's wrong because by firing Comey, he forced their side to reveal their networks, to show what they were doing and to displace.
And it was the first time that he had actually hit back at them.
And it was important because I think it was how the problem kind of came to be scoped.
Now, to go back to your question, I think should Kamala Harris come in, you're looking at crazy policy positions like free health care for illegal immigration or for illegal immigrants.
You're looking at a defense department that is just gutted, turned into a kind of an imperial police force, perhaps even directed internally.
Certainly there's spying apparatus directed internally again.
We'd see a continuation of just the, I don't even know how to describe the Obama administration's policies towards the police, right?
I mean, I have relatives who are police officers, and they're kind of shell-shocked by what's happened in this country, where so many of their elected officials now seen as are hostile to them.
So these are just, you know, these are wave top things that we can expect to see coming out with them.
But your right to own a weapon and your free speech and the use of critical race theory to drive hate speech laws upon us.
I mean, it would just be, I don't think you can even imagine it would be so bad.
Yeah, there's a French phrase that was said, I think, by Louis XV, and it's been used multiple times.
It's apra neu les déluge, which is after us the flood.
And man, would that be true?
Because you're not going to be able to control what happens after this.
So, Rich, let me just be honest with you.
People are losing faith in the American system.
They're losing faith in the American system in more ways than one, especially the judicial system.
Why don't we have indictments from John Durham?
He is working it.
I'm a believer in Barr and Durham.
Okay, convince me.
I think Barr, well, I think Barr is battling his own institution, right?
There are legacy bureaucrats that he has to fight his way through in there.
There's no question about it.
These are huge institutions, Charlie.
You know, most Americans, they think, you know, you just strap into the secretary or the AG job and you just turn the ship.
These are ocean-going exile, you know, super tankers that the best way to turn them is to turn them slowly and deliberately in a direction over time.
And I think that the AG has shown he's doing that.
He maneuvered quickly, just, you know, just look at the way he maneuvered quickly to shut down Mueller.
Look at the scope expansion he's allowed Durham to have.
They're looking at the spying now.
They're looking at what happened in terms of sabotaging the campaign.
They're looking at with Jensen what happened during the presidency itself, all the way up to include what they did under the special counsel's office with more, particularly Weissman, right?
So he's expanded the scope of this.
And I think the average American sees it and they think, oh, yeah, a couple guys spied.
Why aren't there indictments?
Well, the scale of this conspiracy is massive with hundreds of actors, government actors, private sector actors, all of it behind this wall of classified information.
So when we heard last week that DNI Ratcliffe has released a thousand new sets of documents to the Durham team.
What the American public needs to understand is they weren't provided to the Durham team.
The Durham team has already seen them.
They already have the classification.
Those documents were released to be put in front of a grand jury and the 23 members of the grand jury.
Do we know a grand jury has been impaneled?
Absolutely.
Some people don't agree with that.
Some people don't agree, like Tom Fitton and others.
I know who doesn't think there's a grand jury.
We've had them on our show, so I have to, I have to, I'm not saying either way.
I'm just asking the question.
Right.
I'm telling you, Durham is the real deal.
Would it be fair to conjecture that maybe the grand jury is already indicted, but it's a sealed indictment until after the election?
Without question, there are sealed indictments.
Without question.
How do you say this?
Without question, that, okay, tell me why.
Because, look, I just know folks from in and around the Justice Department who, you know, they know their tells.
They understand how the legal process works.
Former FBI agents, current FBI agents, DOJ employees.
And what they say is in a case like this, you are going to be working your way up through this, like I think Rudy calls it RICO, right?
It's a RICO-like investigation.
You're working your way up through the organization.
And my personal opinion is they're working their way up to President Obama and certainly Susan Rice.
Whether or not they ever go to the political level remains a question, but the only person who had the remit across all of these agencies to have understood the scope of this, because it wasn't just the FBI.
I mean, the CIA was involved.
The NSA was involved.
The DOD was involved.
Components of other countries' intelligence services were involved.
Only the National Security Advisor could have coordinated something like that.
And in some ways, maybe that's why she was floated to be Biden's VP for a little while to try to keep this whole thing the getaway car.
The getaway car theory.
But I think that the Pelosi cabal got Kamala in there and they said, don't worry, we'll clean this up.
If Biden wins, why wouldn't he instruct his DOJ to drop charges and get away if there are sealed indictments?
There's no question that that is a risk.
No question about it.
Now, what I would tell the voters out there is if you want justice, re-elect Trump.
Allow Barr and Durham to finish their work.
If you're not happy with how fast they're going, look, my personal opinion was when they originally stood up these investigators, they should have moved to establish a special counsel, but I understood the scope of it.
Yeah.
We're sour on special counsels because they could do whatever they want.
Right, exactly.
We were fatigued.
But this case is an example where, you know, this is where you would want a special counsel.
You'd have the DOJ investigating itself, right?
And so even if Barr and Durham are doing everything by the book and legitimately, the outside perception is, oh, they're not going fast enough.
They're not resourced enough.
Yeah, but here's what I don't understand: is Mueller's scope very well could have aligned with this, though.
Mueller had a very broad scope, and Mueller didn't look into any of this stuff.
So we already had a special counsel that was supposed to look in, and you would know the charging documents better than I would, but it was Russian interference in the American election was basically it, right?
And yet he indicted Manafort and Stone on non-Russian charges.
So if you see a crime, you're supposed to refer the crime.
Manafort just, I mean, Manafort, Mueller just wanted scalps.
That's just what he wanted.
He wanted to get points on the board as quickly as possible.
But wouldn't hiring a foreign agent to do a Russian dossier, wouldn't that fall under Mueller's scope?
We already had a special counsel.
Right.
And I think, you know, when you, when you look back upon it, that special counsel fatigue perhaps inhibited the way we thought about dealing with this.
Okay.
And I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm agreeing with you.
Unfortunately, what we saw with Mueller was he was put in there, and It looks like largely because he was, you know, he was the Joe Biden of special counsels, right?
He was sort of there, but not really.
And it was Weissman running the show, okay?
And I think when you look back at this, remember the operational design from the very beginning, going back to even before July 2016, was to put in place a series of actors that would look like, if not, be actively involved in activities with the Russians.
So it was not just that they had a weak predicate for an investigation.
They purposely fabricated that predicate.
I think the key to all this, and I have competing theories of how this all came together, and you would know it better than I would.
I think the key is George Papadopoulos.
He's the most curious case, I think, of all this.
Can you inform our audience if you agree or disagree with that?
And if you agree, just give us, I mean, I read his book.
He needed an editor.
It was meandering.
Great guy, but it takes you have to know a lot of information to understand it.
Tell us, I think Papadopoulos shows the international component to this.
Right.
And I think, okay, I think, very simply put, Papadopoulos was a young kind of wannabe, you know, looking to kind of make his name inside the foreign policy world.
And in the oil, I think he was in the oil speculator world, right?
And I think because he was relatively young, what we saw was in March, even prior to March of 2016, they had been bumping up against him.
He interfaced, I think it was with the Ben Carson campaign and some other same with these other people.
So the FBI was already actively looking into these individuals.
In March, do you remember the media put a lot of pressure on the president to name his foreign policy advisors?
Political Prosecution Timelines 00:08:45
Do you recall that?
And all of a sudden, he had that meeting.
Well, then we know that on April 5th of 2016, Lynch, Rice, Comey, Brennan, and Clapper met to discuss President Trump's foreign policy team.
Now, this is three months before they open Crossfire Hurricane, right?
And you see them begin to re-engage in it.
Now, what's happening there, and this is really important, is Mifsued who was the professor or something, right?
Do we know what happened to him?
We don't know exactly what happened to him, but I'm told he's safely stored away somewhere, but I don't know for sure.
So all caveats apply there.
I will say this: that somehow Durham was able to get a hold of Mitsu's phones.
I'm told they were able to get a lot of information off of those phones.
Now, I don't know if Mitch Sued turned them in himself or they were captured somehow.
But he was working with Australian intelligence or something, right?
Well, Italian intelligence and possibly British intelligence.
But this goes to the scope of this, right?
I mean, this was massive.
And so what we saw is these operations were, you know, under the Obama administration, spying on political opponents or potential opponents had become normalized.
And when you look back at the Obama years, there's one thing that really always struck me about the Obama years was that no dissent was allowed, even for the Democrats, right?
You know, he went after Jane Harmon when Menendez pushed back on him about Cuba and the Cuba opening up.
They went after Menendez.
And so what were they going after them with?
I think it was this.
I think they were spying on them.
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So you're a bar believer.
You're a Durham defender.
You believe that there is wisdom to have these sealed indictments.
I would have thought I would want them before the election because Biden was involved in it.
I think we knew that wasn't going to come down the road about two or three months ago when the Attorney General said he wasn't seeing any information to carry this forward to the political level.
I don't believe that's possible.
It's just not possible.
We know that now, right?
We know, and the president, I think, you know, you could literally see vice president, former Vice President Biden wince.
He literally winced when the president went after him after the January 5th meeting, in particular, his attacks that Biden had made on General Flynn.
And that's a great piece of footage.
I think that really shows the guilty knowledge, if you will, right?
And I think where I see this is as somebody who's operated inside these institutions and inside the bureaucracies, I know what Barr and Durham are up against.
So I'm a little bit more patient with them.
But what are they up against?
They're up against 28-year-old Yale graduates that are slow walking and saying, why are we doing this?
Or what are they specifically up against?
They need to win the information war and the war of public opinion, okay?
As well as make these cases.
But they will lose that war if Biden wins.
I don't think Biden's going to win, and I don't think you do either.
I don't think they do either.
And I think if we get into a culture where we're pushing, it goes back to like when you're five years old, right?
Your mom says two wrongs don't make it right.
Pushing for prosecutions under political timelines is what they did.
All right.
And we want to be careful about following the precedent that they've set because eventually it turns into a tit for tap.
And I think that we have to have confidence that we're on the side of Rub.
I hear you completely.
But my fear is that no justice will be done.
And I know you don't believe this if Biden, I mean, that Biden will lose.
I know you believe that Trump will win.
But I think that if Biden wins, this stuff will just get completely dismissed.
And so here's my, and here's just where I'm at.
And prove me wrong in the couple minutes we have remaining.
I don't think any of these people get held accountable.
I'm very skeptical.
I'm very cynical.
I have lost total faith in this.
Maybe they're going to have these grand indictments, their sealed indictments, grand jury.
And to the level and the sophistication of what these people are able to do from just Hillary's emails, the deletion of them, the tarmac meeting, it seems that these people are allowed to get away with it every single time.
Is there evidence to show something to the contrary?
There's not evidence on the specific cases you cited.
Okay.
But I think that the accountability isn't sitting inside these institutions.
The accountability is in the voters.
Okay.
And my personal opinion is that you don't get from where we were, okay, which is single-sided justice system, single-sided bureaucratic decision-making, unaccountable foreign policy, middle class actually being seen as the adversary to the political, quote-unquote, ruling class.
If even the idea that there is such a thing as a ruling class in America is so un-American.
I know.
Exactly.
It's absurd.
So I think it's on us, we the people, to fix it.
We are the sovereigns.
So if you want it fixed, get involved.
We have far too many people sitting on the sidelines complaining.
I am right there with you.
Trust me.
I could not agree more.
I mean, I go to these rallies and people come up to me and they say, well, when's Durham going to indict?
And I say, I don't think he will, whatever, you know, whatever.
And I said, what are you doing about it?
They're like, well, I'm watching TV every day.
I'm like, well, the Democrats are out spending us.
They're out knocking us.
They're out doing all sorts of stuff.
You know, what are you doing?
So the book is called The Memo.
We have one minute remaining.
Rich, what's your prediction for Election Day and why?
I'm predicting a Trump landslide.
I think the people are wide awake.
I'll give you my neighborhood.
There are probably 100 houses in my neighborhood.
There are six Biden signs and 50 new American flags have gone out.
Much like if you had asked me six months ago, I wouldn't have had this appraisal.
But I think the economy is beginning to recover post-COVID.
The president has rightly moved past COVID.
And I think that the American people are experiencing a bit of awakening because we need to remember the left, the communists, the Marxists, whatever you want to call them, they left us.
We didn't leave them.
This is our country.
And I think the people know that.
We the people know that.
They're going to come out in ways they haven't before.
We could be going into an interesting time in the transition, though, but we'll see.
I pray you're right, everybody.
Rich Higgins off of the memo.
Lot there.
Listen to this episode twice.
You'll get more wisdom.
Rich, thanks for joining.
Everybody, thanks for listening.
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