On a day marked by violent protests where two police officers were shot in Louisville by BLM Inc. activists, Charlie takes you through the Breonna Taylor case step-by-step, debunking the biggest lies sold to us by the activist media over...
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The Breonna Taylor Lie
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| Today on the Charlie Kirk Show, we dive into the lie around Brennan Taylor. | |
| We tell you the truth, facts of what is going on in Louisville, Kentucky. | |
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| Buckle up, everybody. | |
| The facts are coming. | |
| Here we go. | |
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| What is going on in Louisville, Kentucky? | |
| The decision in the Breonna Taylor case is in. | |
| The grand jury in Louisville has spoken and they have charged one officer, Brett Hankinson, with wanton endangerment for blindly shooting 10 rounds from outside of Breonna Taylor's apartment. | |
| So I prefer not to spend our entire program on these very isolated incidents of police officers having to defend themselves and individuals dying in crossfire. | |
| However, because of the activist media's pathological obsession with trying to push a narrative that does not exist, that is not based in factual or empirical reality, we're going to have to debunk all of the narratives and the attempted activism now around the case of Breonna Taylor. | |
| And so we're going to get into the police officers and also Breonna Taylor and just some of the complete and total lies surrounding this case. | |
| But let's lead with Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron, who said this, quote, according to Kentucky law, the use of force by officers Jonathan, Mattingly, and Miles Cosgrove was justified to protect themselves, he said. | |
| Quote, this justification bars us from pursuing criminal charges and miss Breonna Taylor's death. | |
| So what does he mean by self-defense? | |
| Let's go through seven key facts of the Breonna Taylor case. | |
| And all of this is from the Louisville Police Incident Report. | |
| I just want to say I have no partiality in this at all whatsoever. | |
| If the police officers acted incorrectly, I would be the first one to say that they should be tried for murder or tried for manslaughter. | |
| I'm just a facts guy. | |
| I look at empirical data. | |
| I look at what actually happened and then I make a judgment. | |
| I am not a person that is trying to push forth a narrative that all police are awful. | |
| Facts are not white. | |
| Facts are not black. | |
| Facts are not Republican. | |
| Facts are not Democrat. | |
| Facts are what happened. | |
| Now, the left thinks that facts are racist, and that is one of the ideas of critical race theory. | |
| That's why they reject science and they reject math. | |
| In fact, listen to our sister episode with Isabel Brown, our campus correspondent at Turning Point USA, and you'll hear about how math is being taught as racist at universities all across the country. | |
| So here are seven facts about the report. | |
| Now, mind you, I just recently started to research this. | |
| I actually think there's a lot more important stories in the country than the unfortunate death of Breonna Taylor. | |
| I think that there's infinitely more important stories in our country, such as how one in four young people have contemplated suicide in the last 90 days. | |
| I think that's probably a more important story than someone who had a drug-trafficking lover who got caught up in a raid in Louisville because her boyfriend decided to try to shoot police officers. | |
| And we're going to talk about all of that. | |
| However, when we start to see arsonist, activist, and terroristic activity in Louisville, Kentucky, it warrants a factual response so all of you can know exactly what happened with the case of Breonna Taylor. | |
| Fact number one, Breonna Taylor was knee-deep in criminal activity with her ex-boyfriend, Jamarcus Glover, who sold drugs out of his home in Louisville. | |
| Despite being her ex-boyfriend, she was very much still involved in drug trafficking. | |
| Fact number two, Glover, Jamarcus Glover, her ex-boyfriend, was using her apartment as his home address and has been receiving packages at Taylor's apartment. | |
| Now, what were in those packages, we don't know. | |
| We do know that her car was seen multiple times at Glover's trap house and she was a person of interest in the narcotics investigation surrounding Glover and again, her ex-boyfriend. | |
| Fact number three: police had a no-knock warrant for Jamarcus Glover's trap house, where they successfully executed the warrant and arrested Glover, as well as several others. | |
| This is proof that warrants can be done without people dying. | |
| You comply with police officers. | |
| You don't shoot at police officers. | |
| Police also obtained a no-knock warrant. | |
| And let me just pause right here. | |
| A warrant is not a small thing. | |
| You have to go to a judge. | |
| You have to present evidence. | |
| It has to be signed off on. | |
| Warrants are not issued by police officers. | |
| So this entire scenario here was not just that someone got pulled over by the side of the street and the police officer decided to try to publicly execute them. | |
| It's a lot more nuanced than intricate. | |
| You had to have a judge that poured over the evidence and said, yes, based on the evidence provided, I am authorizing and signing off on you police officers being able to use force to go arrest her. | |
| Now, not to mean that you have to go kill somebody, of course not, but you can go knock down a door and find them. | |
| So they had a no-knock warrant for Breonna Taylor with her name and address on it, but they were instructed to knock and announce themselves upon arrival. | |
| Now, this is one of the biggest lies and misrepresentations and falsehoods surrounding the case. | |
| The activist media is painting it as a random raid on the wrong apartment where cops burst into the house and shot Taylor in the head while she was sleeping. | |
| Headlines like this carried the news cycle: quote, Breonna Taylor was murdered for sleeping while black from the nation. | |
| Wow. | |
| Or, quote, sleeping while black, Louisville police kill unarmed black woman from National Public Radio. | |
| Or Sleeping While Black, family seeks justice for Breonna Taylor, killed in her bedroom by police. | |
| None of this is true. | |
| It's just a lie. | |
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| I wish it was more nuanced. | |
| I wish there was a better way to say that it was somewhat true. | |
| It's pathologically untrue. | |
| The activist media spoon-fed the entire nation trying to elicit rightful outrage. | |
| Police forcibly breaking into someone's apartment and shooting them multiple times in their sleep. | |
| Yeah, that would be something I would be upset about. | |
| Again, I have no reason to defend police officers that commit manslaughter. | |
| So I just searched the facts. | |
| I said, is this something I should be upset about? | |
| Is this something I should disapprove of? | |
| And mind you, as I did this research and our amazing team here on the Charlie Kirk show started to do research, we started to realize how much we've been lied to. | |
| And by the way, this is why our show has only mentioned the Breonna Taylor case once. | |
| We mentioned it a couple months ago, and we just kind of remained quiet on it. | |
| We said, let's wait for the grand jury and for facts to surface. | |
| And now that the facts are out, we're taking a very firm, factual stance on. | |
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| Fact number five. | |
| So when no one answered the door after the police said, police open up, police open up, they knocked, not unannounced, but they announced themselves. | |
| And now Brianna's current boyfriend at the time, criminal Kenneth Walker, fired one shot at the police officers, shooting Jonathan Mattingly in the leg. | |
| Now, some people don't like me calling him a criminal. | |
| If you shoot at a police officer after they announce themselves, you're a criminal. | |
| You're a thug. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| If you shoot at a police officer, you should go to jail. | |
| You comply with the police. | |
| If you think you're being arrested illegally, then defend yourself in court. | |
| He denies that they announced themselves. | |
| The police said they did. | |
| And there are witness accounts that say they did hear a knock. | |
| Fact number six: police officer Mattingly and two other officers returned fire to Kenneth Walker, her current boyfriend, who started to shoot at them. | |
| Because after they said, police open up, the first thing that Kenneth Walker thought of is, let me try to shoot police officers. | |
| That's the type of person that Breonna Taylor was dating while she was also still doing business with her ex-boyfriend, the drug trafficker. | |
| And unfortunately and tragically, Breonna Taylor, who was standing in the hallway of her apartment, again, not in her bed, was shot in the crossfire. | |
| I'm not celebrating her death. | |
| I'm not defending the fact she died. | |
| I'm not saying that this is a desirable outcome. | |
| You can call it a tragedy if you want, and plenty of people are. | |
| I think that's fine. | |
| But it's not a crime. | |
| What the officers did was not a crime. | |
| Her boyfriend decided to open fire on the police. | |
| She got caught in the crossfire. | |
| Now, one of the police officers did get indicted. | |
| He did not get indicted for killing Breonna Taylor. | |
| It may be a correct indictment. | |
| It felt kind of like a ceremonious reach indictment so they could say at least somebody was indicted for something here because of the pressure. | |
| And so Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron again said, quote, Mattingly and Cosgrove were justified in their return of deadly fire after having been fired upon by Kenneth Walker. | |
| Let me state that again. | |
| According to Kentucky law, use of force by Mattingly and Cosgrove was justified to protect themselves. | |
| Now, this should not be controversial. | |
| Police have a right to defend themselves after someone starts shooting at them. | |
| The seventh fact. | |
| The third police officer, Brett Hankinson, he's the one that was charged of wanton endangerment in the first degree for firing shots from outside of the apartment, which subsequently entered neighboring units. | |
| Again, the officers fired shots after they were fired upon by Kenneth Walker. | |
| The shots he fired weren't even aimed at Breonna Taylor or her boyfriend. | |
| This is probably a correct indictment. | |
| It probably is. | |
| Do I think it's a little bit of a reach? | |
| Yes. | |
| If he wantonly endangered and recklessly endangered somebody, then indict him. | |
| I don't think police officers should be above the law. | |
| I don't. | |
| Do I think he should serve the rest of his life in prison? | |
| No, will he? | |
| Probably not. | |
| However, indict him for that, but don't make him a martyr for something he didn't do. | |
| From what I understand from the facts of the situation, his discharge of his weapon hurt or killed nobody. | |
| He probably shouldn't have done it. | |
| It was probably foolish, and he'll probably serve a couple months in prison or a couple years in prison. | |
| He was outside the apartment when he did. | |
| He probably got excited and made a mistake. | |
| And he should be held accountable for that. | |
| Okay, and that's what the justice system does. | |
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| These are the facts. | |
| Despite knowing these facts, the left is still peddling the false narrative that she was, quote, cold-blood murdered in her sleep. | |
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| Democrat Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio tweeted today, quote, Breonna Taylor was killed in her sleep by police. | |
| This is not even close to justice. | |
| This is an ugly reminder that our justice system does not hold police officers accountable for their actions. | |
| Sherrod Brown basically wants Donald Trump to win Ohio by 12 points. | |
| That's basically Sherrod Brown's new position. | |
| Now that Sherrod Brown has won reelection in Ohio, he won his midterm election in 18, Sherrod Brown's new position is that he wants Donald Trump to run up the score in Ohio. | |
| Because, by the way, Louisville's right on the Kentucky-Ohio border. | |
| It's right there. | |
| That's why Sherrod Brown feels the need to comment on this. | |
| So here's the missing piece of all this. | |
| And it's just people's failure to understand how the justice system works. | |
| Do you know what a grand jury is? | |
| A grand jury is no different than a jury in a court of law, but a grand jury is a group of your peers that makes a decision as to whether or not someone should be indicted, whether or not someone should be charged with a crime. | |
| Grand juries are more than 12 people. | |
| Usually they're 15 or 20 or 25 people. | |
| And they're all from the local area. | |
| Now, a grand jury does not need to be unanimous. | |
| That is the one thing that makes a grand jury different than an impaneled jury in a regular court proceeding. | |
| However, a grand jury, they watch the news, they have the same public pressure that a regular jury does. | |
| And by the way, this jury, this grand jury, was probably made up of Democrats, Republicans, black people, and white people, urban people, and rural people. | |
| Essentially, they decide whether or not an indictment should proceed. | |
| Now, grand juries have been growing in popularity over the last 10 years, especially with these police killings. | |
| Because prosecutors sometimes realize they do not have the evidence to move forward to charge these police officers. | |
| So the prosecutors or the government realize what is one way that we can justify bringing charges or not bringing charges. | |
| Let's impanel a grand jury, a jury of your peers. | |
| So this grand jury has met for some time. | |
| And in some ways, you could say they passed the buck, but I think it only makes their case actually stronger. | |
| I think that the prosecutors looked at this case on its merit and they said, we're not going to be able to proceed and indict these officers. | |
| We can't. | |
| They said, so let's impanel a grand jury. | |
| And so for people that are mad at the justice system here, it's your peers. | |
| And by the way, it's your neighbors. | |
| I guarantee you there are people that are sympathetic to BLM Inc. that were on that grand jury without a doubt. | |
| And so do the grand jury know something that we don't? | |
| Of course not. | |
| So the way it works is that the prosecutor actually tries to persuade the grand jury. | |
| The prosecutor is actually going to the grand jury asking for permission to proceed. | |
| That's the way the grand jury works. | |
| So the prosecutor will not impanel a grand jury to ask for an opinion. | |
| The prosecutor will go to the grand jury and they will weigh the facts of the case and they'll also weigh the potential counter arguments that the defense will have. | |
| So the one thing that makes a grand jury different than jury when someone is actually being indicted is already indicted for a crime is there's no defense present. | |
| It's just a grand jury and the prosecution in a room. | |
| The prosecution does though have to make somewhat of a devil's advocate argument to say, here's what the defense will end up saying so that there's some qualification or else it can come across as very biased, right? | |
| And so in this case, the grand jury, which is just regular people, not people necessarily that went to law school, heard the facts of the case, and they probably asked very good questions and they said, well, who shot first? | |
| What does the law say about self-defense? | |
| What does Kentucky law say about police officers being able to defend themselves? | |
| And the prosecution likely said, well, look, Breonna Taylor is dead. | |
| We could charge this police officer with manslaughter. | |
| However, Mr. Walker, Kenneth Walker, started firing at the police first, and the police officers defended themselves. | |
| And someone probably on the grand jury said, well, it's not right that Breonna Taylor died. | |
| And the prosecutor said, you're right. | |
| That's why we're talking about this with you. | |
| But here's what the defense is going to say. | |
| According to Kentucky law, we cannot proceed. | |
| And the prosecution said, this is why we're bringing it to you. | |
| And we are not convinced that there's the evidence that merits it. | |
| And the grand jury probably agreed. | |
| This other police officer, Brett Hankinson, who fired his weapon, and they said, okay, we could probably proceed there. | |
| They went above and beyond to go through the grand jury process. | |
| So, again, if you're mad and you're angry about this, how many more different variations and levels of checks and balances do you require to not get angry about this thing? | |
| If you really think the system is that rigged from top to bottom, you should go find another country to live in. | |
| If you really think it's that rotten to the core, and you're not thinking rationally, by the way. | |
| Again, if Breonna Taylor was sitting in her rocking chair peacefully after she went to sleep after drinking a cold glass of milk and a police officer opened up the door and came in and put a pistol on her forehead and said, I want you to die and discharged his weapon, that would not be defended by anybody. | |
| But instead, she was in the middle of a drug trafficking ring with an award out for her arrest, not, by the way, should be a death sentence. | |
| And her criminal boyfriend starts shooting at the police after they say, open up, police. | |
| And by the way, if you have ever overheard a police raid, watched videos of a police raid, or spoken to law enforcement like I have about this case, they are so unbelievably loud and repetitive when they do these raids. | |
| You know the police are walking through your front door. | |
| And also, her ex-boyfriend, her co-conspirator in trafficking drugs, by the way, it's not an excuse for her to get the death penalty. | |
| I'm not saying that she should have been killed because she trafficked drugs, but it's important to realize this was not the local librarian, okay? | |
| She was hanging around very bad people. | |
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| He was arrested peacefully in the same night. | |
| No problems. | |
| Why? | |
| Because he complied. | |
| And black thought leaders are posting things like this on Twitter, such as, quote, after this legal lynching of Breonna Taylor, and other people saying, why would we black people vote in the voting process to this point? | |
| Who are black people going to vote for to stop legal lynchings like this? | |
| The mayor of Louisville is black. | |
| The attorney general is black. | |
| So why vote? | |
| That's from Tariq Nasheed, who's a race-baiting civil arsonist who wants nothing more than disintegration of America. | |
| I've been following his tweets for years. | |
| It's hard to even keep up with his incredibly destructive take on America. | |
| They're basically becoming completely disillusioned because for them, they want police officers to suffer. | |
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| So, in the days leading up to the announcement of the verdict, mayor of Louisville, Greg Fisher, declared a state of emergency where the city, quote, due to the potential for civil unrest. | |
| And this resulted in the city being locked down and officers, their days off canceled. | |
| I actually got this message from a police officer in Louisville anonymously. | |
| Charlie, I'm a police officer in Louisville, anonymously, of course, but I've been down here in the city waiting since 5 a.m. | |
| If we have to prepare like this for an announcement, the city is wrong. | |
| The city let it get like this. | |
| The mayor approved a $12 million settlement to the family of Breonna Taylor without the council's approval, largest settlement in Louisville history. | |
| The city has been wrong about this whole situation from the very start. | |
| They let the media lie. | |
| They let the family lie. | |
| They let the attorneys lie about all of it. | |
| Police officers here in Louisville are leaving daily. | |
| We are so short on manpower that they've canceled all off days. | |
| For the time being, for all officers, I'm not sure when my next day off will be. | |
| If they do not handle this correctly, these next couple days, there will be many more officers leaving this department, putting the city in even more jeopardy. | |
| Louisville hit a very sober milestone Saturday night as the city plowed past its 117th homicide of 2020, making it the deadliest year in city's history. | |
| And black residents, of course, have been hit the hardest, according to Louisville police data, accounting for 71% of identified victims. | |
| The Ferguson effect is happening. | |
| Exactly what I predicted back in May, as soon as George Floyd's death happened. | |
| I was hosting a local radio show in Los Angeles as the George Floyd news came through. | |
| And I said back then, what I'll say now: thousands of innocent black people are going to die because white liberals say they don't like the police. | |
| It's that simple. | |
| And the settlement he was talking about, a $12 million settlement to her family. | |
| And now, mind you, I don't want to necessarily disparage Breonna Taylor's family here. | |
| But the headlines I read to you earlier about Sleeping Wild Black, those came from her family and the radical attorney they hired to represent this case. | |
| By the way, this guy is like Better Call Saul from Breaking Bad. | |
| Anytime there is a police shooting, this guy who is nothing more than a race baiter, Benjamin Crump, shows up. | |
| I just keep on seeing him on TV. | |
| I say, my goodness, this guy is making more money than anyone else on dividing America racially. | |
| He represents the family of George Floyd, Jacob Blake, and Ahmad Arbery. | |
| And now he represents the family of Breonna Taylor. | |
| Again, he's a complete rabble-rouser. | |
| He travels around the country, stirring up racially motivated narratives that don't coincide with any form of subjective truth. | |
| He's a little bit more talented than Al Sharpton and definitely skinnier than Al Sharpton used to be. | |
| And like I said, only one police officer, the one that has already been fired, was charged. | |
| And he wasn't charged for anything related to Taylor's death, nor should he be. | |
| But I think it's fine that you indict him. | |
| I don't think it's right for police officers to randomly shoot through a wall. | |
| That's a mistake. | |
| Shouldn't have happened. | |
| He got excited, probably. | |
| He got scared. | |
| He started to discharge his weapon. | |
| He should be held accountable for that. | |
| So when the decision was announced, the marches for justice just started. | |
| So I want to play this video, and I'll describe it for those of you who are listening. | |
| And just moments after the verdict was read, there was a parked U-Haul truck waiting, ready with the signs that said, abolish police and abolition now. | |
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| and as an aside this is not an exaggeration These are Joe Biden voters. | |
| One of the ones on the front lines carrying these signs was wearing a Kamala Harris shirt. | |
| So for those of you that can't see the video, you guys can go to my Twitter feed. | |
| I posted the video there. | |
| We're also going to post the video on CharlieKirk.com. | |
| And more updates are coming very soon. | |
| Very exciting updates for CharlieKirk.com. | |
| So stay peeled for those. | |
| But if you guys can't see this video, imagine right now a U-Haul truck parked on the side of a street, people flooding the U-Haul truck and taking out riot gear and supplies to go up against the police. | |
| Who's funding this? | |
| Who's organizing this? | |
| I want you to imagine something. | |
| Imagine after the Trump supporter that was murdered in Portland a couple weeks ago. | |
| That as soon as that happened, Trump supporters pulled up with a U-Haul truck wearing MAGA hats, taking out bricks, riot gear, and shields to march in the streets. | |
| Do you think the New York Times and the Washington Post and the activist media would care about that? | |
| Where did the truck full of all the supplies come from? | |
| And mind you, all this is happening, especially on Twitter, as burn it down, let Louisville burn, and America with a KKK is trending. | |
| And just breaking right now, a cop was just shot in Louisville at the recording of this podcast. | |
| All of this is predictable. | |
| This is what will happen if Joe Biden wins, everywhere. | |
| These people are nihilists. | |
| Their life really lacks meaning. | |
| Camus famously said, I rebel, therefore I exist. | |
| It's in their entire ideology of existential nihilism. | |
| And we'll dive into that more. | |
| It's philosophically very complex, and I don't want to make this episode too much about that. | |
| But Rene Descartes, who is the beginning of the Enlightenment, said, I think, therefore I am. | |
| That's enlightenment values that all of us listening to this podcast believe in, that your identity is in your capacity to think, versus nihilistic arson. | |
| I rebel, therefore I exist. | |
| Look at all things through an empiricist lens. | |
| Demand facts. | |
| Demand data. | |
| That's what we've done here. | |
| We've been very fair in our observation here saying that that other police officer should be tried. | |
| Do not dive into dogmatic thinking about these things. | |
| When a police officer acts incorrectly, they should be tried. | |
| When a police officer acts correctly, they should be defended. | |
| The police officers in this situation did nothing wrong. | |
| And anyone that tries to burn down or threatens to burn down Louisville should be quickly arrested and put into prison for at least a decade. | |
| No exceptions. | |
| The terrorism in our streets must stop quickly and completely. | |
| Know the facts, free your mind. | |
| You actually might be a happier person if you do so. | |
| And when you dive into the facts of this case, you'll realize how much the activist media has been misleading you and try to rile you up about something that is completely and totally untrue. | |
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