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Sept. 10, 2020 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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Bob Woodward's Big Hoax, Tom Cotton to SCOTUS? And Are 93% of BLM inc. Protests Actually Peaceful?

Charlie breaks down Bob Woodward's latest "bombshell" book and exposes the disgusting double standard of how the Democrats and the activist media are reacting. He then offers a unique, insider's insight into the 20 new names...

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Today in the Charlie Kirk show, what is going on with this Bob Woodward story?
Also, President Trump's going to nominate who to the Supreme Court?
And finally, are most of these protests peaceful?
Because some people say that 93% of them are peaceful.
Is that true?
We dive into that story surrounding BLM Incorporated and so much more.
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Trump's Supreme Court List 00:09:58
President Trump just announced that he is adding 20 new conservative candidates to his Supreme Court vetting list.
Now, this is a brilliant political strategy that the president did back in 2016 when many conservatives who were on the fence about President Trump found some comfort in voting for Trump because of the list of Supreme Court justices that he presented in 2016.
On that list was, of course, Gorsuch Kavanaugh and some of the other superstars that President Trump considered for the Supreme Court.
And he actually got two Supreme Court picks in his first term.
Now, mind you, this list is full of winners.
It includes 20 new conservative candidates.
And they all perfectly line up with exactly who President Donald Trump promised he would appoint and who he ran on appointing to the bench.
This is what Joe Biden is afraid of.
Did you notice that Biden has not told us who he would put on the Supreme Court?
When Biden was vice president of the United States with Barack Obama, there were two Supreme Court justices that were picked to the Supreme Court, Kagan and Sodomayor, two radical constitutional revisionists.
But why won't Joe Biden show us his list of justices?
Joe Biden is afraid to engage in this level of transparency because, quite honestly, it wouldn't help him politically.
It would reveal too much of his hand and expose himself to attacks from all sides.
Now, if Joe Biden revealed his list, he'd be attacked by from the left and from the middle.
They'd say, your list isn't radical or progressive enough, or they would say from the middle that your list is too radical and too progressive.
If Joe Biden was not perfectly in line with the taxpayer-funded abortion on demand or gun confiscation or the persecution of the church's agenda or nationwide lockdowns or mask mandates, the radical left would not turn out in big numbers.
But if Joe Biden's list did include these judges or candidates who did or would support those issues and more, he becomes open to an attack from the Trump campaign and the moderate wing of his party, confirming the suspicion that he is in fact a Trojan horse candidate for the likes of Elon Omar, Rashida Talib, Ayanna Presley, Nancy Pelosi, and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
Joe Biden is stuck in a perpetual catch-22.
And it is a campaign issue that if we had an honest activist media, he should be pressed on over and over and over again until Joe Biden releases a list.
Voters deserve to know who a 78-year-old man, Joe Biden, would appoint to serve a lifetime on the bench, likely decades beyond Joe Biden's own life.
Donald Trump is transparent about this.
As I mentioned earlier, he added 20 new names to his already stacked list.
I want to run through some of those best options.
But before I do, I want to reiterate why this is politically so smart for President Trump.
For Trump, he's able to say, I do more interviews, more rallies, more phone calls.
I am more active than Joe Biden, and I'm more transparent than Joe Biden.
Typically, the more active, interesting, and transparent candidate wins.
In 2016, that was absolutely the case.
Hillary Clinton was the anti-transparency candidate.
So again, this list that I'm going through is compiled by our friends at Breitbart.com.
Added to the list, Daniel Cameron.
You might remember Daniel Cameron from speaking at the Republican National Convention.
Cameron is 34 years old.
He became the first African American ever elected to the office of Kentucky Attorney General in 2019 and was also the first Republican elected to that post in 70 years.
He is a supporter of the black Voices for Trump movement and delivered a well-received speech at the RNC last month when he talked about his ancestors' struggle for freedom.
Let's play tape.
I think often about my ancestors who struggled for freedom.
And as I think of those giants and their broad shoulders, I also think about Joe Biden who says, if you aren't voting for me, you ain't black.
Who argued that Republicans would put us back in chains.
Who says there is no diversity of thought in the black community?
Mr. Vice President, look at me.
I am black.
We are not all the same, sir.
I am not in chains.
My mind is my own.
And you can't tell me how to vote because of the color of my skin.
Joe Biden is a backwards thinker in a world that is craving forward-looking leadership.
There's no wisdom in his record or plan, just a trail of discredited ideas and offensive statements.
So I don't know if he's ready for the bench yet.
It's hard to say whether his record has been vetted enough, but I can tell you he understands what a Republican is and what it means to be a Republican.
Being a Republican is a fighter for freedom, is a fighter for liberty.
It's a fighter for dignity and for human rights.
The Republican Party was founded on anti-slavery.
The Democrat Party has always and will always be the party focused on skin color, not on values.
Also on this list was Tom Cotton.
Love Tom Cotton.
He has been a frequent guest here on the Charlie Kirk Show.
Tom Cotton is 43 years old and is currently serving his second term as U.S. Senator from Arkansas.
He's a conservative Republican and he has been frequently considered for his senior cabinet-level positions, potentially Secretary of Defense.
He graduated from Harvard College and Harvard Law School and worked in private legal practice before joining the U.S. Army Infantry.
Huge Tom Cotton fan.
He served one combat tour each in Afghanistan and then in Iraq and also served in the old guard at Arlington National Cemetery.
Tom Cotton had a very fun tweet about his recent, let's say, suggestion on the list.
We'll get to that in just one second.
Also on the list is Senator Ted Cruz, 49 years old and currently serving his second term as U.S. Senator from Texas.
Ted Cruz was, of course, Trump's main rival for the Republican Party nomination in 2016 and is widely recognized as a leading conservative voice in national politics.
He went to Princeton, Harvard law, and worked for the U.S. Department of Justice.
As the Solicitor General of Texas, he argued cases before the U.S. Supreme Court.
He also taught law at University of Texas, Austin.
To change the news cycle, all President Trump had to do was say that he was going to put Ted Cruz on the U.S. Supreme Court.
And my goodness that it changed the news cycle.
Out of nowhere, I was starting to get emails from these left-wing activist groups saying we have to do whatever we possibly can to prevent Ted Cruz from going on the United States Supreme Court.
Nothing can get the media's attention off of the Woodward story, which we'll get to in just one second, like sending the left reeling over the thought of Ted Cruz, one of the most, if not the most, conservative Republicans in office right now, onto the Supreme Court for life.
Also on the list was Senator Josh Hawley, 40 years old, and is currently serving his first term as a U.S. Senator from Missouri.
He graduated from Stanford University and Yale Law School and he clerked for Chief Justice Roberts.
He has worked in private legal practice and for the Beckett Fund for Religious Liberty.
He also taught law at the University of Missouri and he's a conservative stalwart and he recently opposed Congress's attempt to force the renaming of U.S. Army bases named for Confederate military leaders.
I'm a huge fan of Josh Hawley.
I hope to have him here on the Charlie Kirk show very soon.
Senator Hawley has suggested that he would decline the nomination in favor of continuing to serve Missouri in the United States Senate.
Now, Senator Cruz offered a more mixed message, seeming to neither confirm nor deny whether or not he'd take the position.
Senator Cotton, however, fully embraced it.
And he actually tweeted this.
And I quote, it's time for Roe versus Wade to go.
Senator Tom Cotton also tweeted, the First Amendment protects your rights to worship.
End of story.
He also tweeted, the Second Amendment protects your right to own a gun.
Period.
This is exactly what conservatives have failed to do for so long, leaning into the cultural battles.
Thank you, Senator Tom Cotton.
I love this list.
I think that the Republicans have such a great bench for the future.
I think President Trump may or may not be seriously considering Tom Cotton, Ted Cruz, Josh Hawley, and Daniel Cameron.
But what he did do is he re-upped the bench of the Republican Party back into the mainstream of the conversation where the media does not want to cover how young and how energetic, how diverse the Republican Party actually is.
Tom Cotton tweeted this from his official Senate account.
Quote, the Supreme Court could use some more justices who understand the difference between applying the law and making the law, which the court does when it invents a right to an abortion, infringes on religious liberty or freedom, and erodes the Second Amendment.
Maybe.
Wow.
Maybe a Supreme Court with Senator Tom Cotton would be pretty awesome indeed.
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Calm the American People 00:12:36
So, all of this comes on the heels of the Washington Post story from Bob Woodward and his latest book, A Contemplation of What He Learned Through 18 Interviews with the President, Himself, and Other High-Ranking Officials in the Trump White House.
I'm a friend of the president.
I defend him.
I do not know why the president gave 18 interviews to Bob Woodward.
Not for me to say, not for me to comment.
Maybe there's something I'm missing here.
But what gained traction today was this tape, and I want to play it for you.
Then I'm going to read it back to you.
We'll go line by line.
Play tape.
A moment of talking to somebody going through this with Fauci or somebody who kind of caused a pivot in your mind because it's clear just from what's on the public record that you went through a pivot on this to, oh my God, the gravity is almost inexplicable and unexplainable.
Well, I think, Bob, really, to be honest with you.
Sure, I want you to.
I wanted to always play it down.
I still like playing it down.
Yes, sir.
Because I don't want to create a panic.
Again, the president said, Well, I think, Bob, really be honest with you, I always wanted to play it down.
This was on March 19th, by the way.
This line is what the media latched on to.
Many failed to provide the full context of the quote, in which President Trump says, I still like playing it down because I don't want to play panic.
I think Kaylee McIneney absolutely ran circles around this reporter today for doing exactly that, leaving out the most important line, play tape.
I'd like to ask you about the Woodward interviews.
Did President Trump intentionally mislead the American people about the threat of COVID, a pandemic that has now cost the lives of nearly 200,000 Americans?
Absolutely not.
This president, at a time when you're facing insurmountable challenges, it's important to express confidence.
It's important to express calm.
Please play it down.
Is playing it down?
Is that expressing calm?
It seems dishonest.
It seems dangerous.
Can you read the rest of the quote?
That's how much they put in there.
Oh, you excluded the last part.
Don't play the full thing on 60% of the time.
Please, please do.
Please do explain.
Of course I deny that.
And he makes clear that he doesn't want to see chaos, by the way, is the second part of the quote, which you failed to read.
The president, just days after having this discussion with Bob Woodward, said this from this podium on March 30th, he said, I do want them to stay calm.
We are doing a great job.
If you look at the individual statements, they're all true.
Stay calm.
It will go away, but it's important to stay calm.
So this president does what leaders do, good leaders.
It's stay calm and resolute at a time when you face an insurmountable challenge.
That's what this president will not occur that the president lied to the American public about the threat posed by COVID.
The president has never lied to the American public on COVID.
The president's been very, the president was expressing calm, and his actions reflect that.
On January 6th, the CDC issued a Wuhan travel notice before any confirmed U.S. cases, among a number of other actions.
And I'd refer you to Dr. Fauci, who said that this president has an impressive response.
I can't imagine under any circumstance that anyone could be doing anything more.
That is the record of this president.
So the media is outraged.
They are incensed, seemingly because they're implying that Trump knew how deadly the virus was, that he himself in this interview called it deadlier than the flu, but that he downplayed it to the public.
Lord Fauci, as you can never discount anything he ever says, actually disputed the claim to Fox News's John Roberts, play tape.
Task force members with the president were talking about the reality of what was going on.
And then when we would get up in front of the press conferences, which were very, very common after our discussions with the president, he really didn't say anything different than we discussed when we were with him.
So I may not be tuned in to the right thing that they're talking about, but I didn't really see any discrepancies between what he told us and what we told him and what he ultimately came out publicly and said.
So did you get a sense that he was or wasn't playing this down?
No.
No, no, I didn't.
I didn't get any sense that he was distorting anything.
I mean, in my discussions with him, they were always straightforward about the concerns that we had.
We related that to him.
And when he would go out and I'd hear him discussing the same sort of things, he would often say, we just got through with a briefing with the group from the task force and would talk about it.
So, no, it may have happened, but I have not seen that kind of distortion.
So, they say that President Trump downplayed the virus, but none of that would actually be true if President Trump shut down travel from China, which he did, employed the Defense Production Act, which he did, and chartered the USS Comfort to New York, which he did, and became the world's leading producer of ventilators, recovered the stockpile of PPE that was depleted under Obama and Biden, fast-tracked a vaccine that will be ready, reportedly even before Election Day, and ramped up testing, becoming the most tested nation in the world,
all within the span of a couple months.
And yet still multiple Democrat governors at the time congratulated and complimented President Trump for his efforts.
Play tape.
Fact is, every time I've called the president, he's quickly gotten on the line.
When we asked to get support for that mercy ship in Southern California, he was able to direct that in real time.
What the federal government did, working with states, was a phenomenal accomplishment.
We've got 2,000 of these field medical sites that are up almost all operational now in the state because of his support.
And those are the facts.
His team has been on it.
I know a team when they're on it.
I know a team when they're not on it.
His team is on it.
They've been responsive late at night, early in the morning.
We are working very well with FEMA Region 2 and with the Army Corps of Engineers, building four field hospitals.
That was a decision the president himself took, and I'm grateful for it.
These were just extraordinary efforts and acts of mobilization.
And the federal government stepped up.
We needed help, and they were there.
He said everything that I could have hoped for.
And we had a very long conversation.
And every single thing he said, they followed through on.
We've got to have double the number of ventilators that we requested for that area of the state.
And in fact, we got them in, frankly, short order.
Have we lost anyone because we didn't have a bed or we didn't have a ventilator or we didn't have health care staff?
No.
The president was extending support for new swabs.
So conversation, commitment, promise made, promise kept.
But let's assume that the left is true in their premise for a second.
Where was their outrage when Nancy Pelosi downplayed the threat of the virus and encouraged everyone to join her in Chinatown for large unmasked gatherings in February?
Play tape.
Also to say to everyone, you should come to Chinatown.
Precautions have been taken by our city.
We know that there is a concern about tourism traveling all throughout the world, but we think it's very safe to be in Chinatown and hope that others will come.
Where was their outrage when Nancy Pelosi was handing out gold-plated impeachment pens as Trump coordinated a White House coronavirus task force and shut down travel from China?
She's second in line for the presidency.
She knew about the dangers of the virus, yet she promoted impeachment and tourism over the health and safety of the American people.
CNN, speaking of outrage, of course, did seem upset in January when they tweeted that Trump's Chinese coronavirus task force of renowned experts was, quote, another example of the Trump administration's lack of diversity.
I tweeted this out.
When President Donald Trump was meeting with health experts to tackle the Chinese coronavirus, CNN was busy criticizing the lack of diversity in the room.
I don't need Bob Woodward to tell me who took the virus seriously from the start and who didn't.
And it's true.
Any American who was paying even a sliver of attention at the time knew that President Donald Trump took this threat incredibly seriously when no one else did.
And the day after that tweet from CNN, President Trump shut down all travel from China.
And what did the top Democrat in the party do at the time?
Joe Biden called it hysterical xenophobia.
Play tape.
Coronavirus emanated from China.
A national emergency, you know, worldwide alerts.
The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it.
In moments like this, this is where the credibility of a president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do.
This is no time for Donald Trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia.
Again, I don't need Bob Woodward to tell me who didn't take the virus seriously.
And what about Bill de Blasio?
Here's what Bill de Blasio tweeted.
Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with their own lives and get out of town despite coronavirus, I thought I would offer you some suggestions, he tweeted on March 2nd.
Here is the first to do.
Thursday on the 5th of March, go see the traitor at Lincoln Center.
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Again, Bob Woodward is not the arbiter of truth here at all.
And speaking of Bob Woodward, if he had this knowledge that Trump was downplaying the virus, why didn't he blow the whistle?
Why did it take him all the way up two months before an election to do this?
Because for Bob Woodward, he knew that President Trump didn't downplay the virus, but played in context of an election and in a political theater, it could make Trump look bad.
If the book is full of claims like this, then why did he wait till he could profit off of the president's so-called lies and his cover-up and not save lives and tell everyone the moment the interview wrapped?
None of this is serious.
It is activist journalism.
It's malpractice at best and criminal malfeasance at worst.
And just think about the timing of all of this.
It comes right as the nonsensical Atlantic story starts to die.
The day after Trump is revealed to be tied with Biden in Florida, which we covered yesterday, I encourage you guys to go back and listen to that episode of The Charlie Kirk Show.
And also, President Trump nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize.
This is another early October surprise, like the Atlantic story.
We predicted this in a previous episode of the Charlie Kirk show, but someone brought up a really good point to me.
They emailed, they said, Charlie, of course, the president wasn't trying to panic.
It's the president's job to make sure the American people do not panic.
And there's a lot of wisdom to that.
It's the president's job to make sure that we do not have shortages of food, that we do not have runs on grocery stores.
If you might remember in early March, there was concern whether or not we would have enough toilet paper to be able to supply our country.
There were concerns of medicine and ICU capacity.
So the president's job has always been to clearly communicate the truth and the facts, but also keep that balance between outrage, crisis, bedlam, and hysteria, and also an honest arbiter of what is happening in the country.
I do not fault the president for saying this.
Talking to Bob Woodward is something that is puzzling.
However, the president has been consistent with decisive action, yet communicating to the American people very clearly as to the facts of the Chinese coronavirus.
This is yet another media spin doctor job to try to make you conservative constitutionalist American think lower of the president and try to retreat to Joe Biden.
It's trying to create that referendum campaign against President Trump.
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Now, speaking of dishonest news and media malpractice, something has really been nagging at me for the last couple days, and I've actually really wanted to get to it in the previous episodes and finally have time to get to it in this episode.
As reported by CNN, about 93% of racial justice protests in the U.S. have been peaceful, a new report finds.
You might have seen this.
It's all over social media where the BLM incorporated activists have said, See, I told you so.
Most of these protests, most of these demonstrations have been peaceful.
93% of racial justice protests have been peaceful.
The report continued by saying the findings released Thursday contradict assumptions and claims by some that protests associated with BLM are spawning violence and destruction of property.
The report was produced by the U.S. Crisis Project, a joint effort by the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, ACLED, and the Bridging Divides Initiative, BDI, at Prince University, which collects and analyzes real-time data on demonstration and political violence.
Well, first of all, if you actually dive into the data, do you know what huge incident was missing from this data?
The creation of the new country within our country, Chaz, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone.
That was not part of any of the demonstrations.
Was that peaceful when two black young Americans were killed in the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone?
But let's even take this at face value, which we can't.
So only 7% are criminal.
7%.
Could you imagine if 7% of Trump rallies resulted in criminal activity?
Could you imagine if 7% of Trump rallies resulted in looting, arson, robbery, or widespread terror?
As we've covered extensively here on the Charlie Kirk show, the 150 black businesses that were burned to the ground in Minneapolis, the 600 minority businesses that were looted in Chicago.
Saying that it was mostly peaceful would be like saying, well, the German invasion of Poland was mostly peaceful.
Only 200 tank battalions were violent or dispatched.
Because if you take the macro data out of all of the protests or out of all the demonstrations that they showed, only 220 of them turned violent.
Or it's like saying, only 7% of the food in this restaurant was handled by someone with a Chinese coronavirus.
I hope you'll still financially support us.
Or it's like saying this: we should still support BLM Incorporated because only 7% of their gatherings turn into domestic terror.
If it was only 1%, this would be a big deal.
And again, I reject the premise.
I think this data is absolute, complete garbage.
I don't buy for one second this is an accurate statistic or study.
I don't think Princeton is being honest with us with how they categorize it because Chaz was not even part of this macro data set.
But more importantly, this is just trying to mainstream an insurgent BLM incorporated movement in our country.
This is trying to justify very troubling trends of insurrection and terror within America.
So this is worthy of us taking a pause.
What is the media's true agenda here?
The activist media's true agenda here.
Why do they want BLM Incorporated to continue?
Why do they want these widespread demonstrations of arson and of terror to go uninterrupted?
And here's the best way that I can square that: the activist media is no different than the BLM Incorporated activist.
The media member just goes about their activism completely different than the BLM organizer.
Bob Woodward or Chris Cuomo is no different than Nicole Hanna-Jones or Robin D'Angelo.
They just have different ways of going about it.
As Alexander Solshenitsyn said in the Gulag Archipelago, thanks to ideology, it is dogmatic ideology that drives these people.
It is a commitment to a firm, non-negotiable premise that America is an awful country.
That's what drives these people.
They are truly and honestly convinced that we live in the worst country, the most oppressive country in the world, that anything that we enjoy was stolen.
It was taken.
It's a system of oppression built for white people.
And if you take the Machiavellian premise, the Machiavellian morality, if I could call that, the ends justify the means.
Do what you must.
Overthrow the tables.
So the activist media and BLM Incorporated, they're actually much more similar than they are separate.
They're not separate industries.
They're not.
They're different expressions of a shared and desired goal, which is to try to bring forth America to the true beginning of history.
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And if you go a level deeper, the question should be, how do you stop it?
That's a question that we're going to wrestle with throughout this weekend with some of our episodes into next week.
Because if we are not serious about confronting these sorts of movements, they will continue to multiply.
And if the media tries to say that 93% of all racial justice demonstrations were peaceful, and how they categorize it, I mean, they categorized an eight-person protest as a peaceful protest.
Okay, that eight-person protest in some suburb outside of Dallas is not within the data set that is concerning us.
I'm talking about the mass demonstrations that resulted in looting, arson, and terror.
So here's a much better way to look at the data.
100% of the widespread looting and arson and destruction, widespread being the operative word, 100% of them were rooted to BLM Incorporated.
That's how the media should be covering this story.
You could reverse engineer it.
Say, when was there widespread looting, rioting, and demonstrations in the streets?
In the last couple months.
Okay.
Was it or was it not connected to BLM Incorporated?
And if yes, why won't you say that?
The reason they won't say that is ideology drives these people.
You can't have discourse, you can't have dialogue, and they're using this study that actually makes them look more foolish than ever before.
But to an untrained eye, to someone that's out there, they say, yeah, wow, maybe they are mostly peaceful.
It's nonsense.
It's like saying, man, 93% of people that walk down this street are going to survive.
Would you walk down that street?
93% of the time, this airline is able to land the plane.
Would you get on that plane?
Only 7% of cars crash today.
The standard that we have for BLM Incorporated now, oh, 7%?
Perfectly fine.
That's excusable because your outrage is so warranted, even though I think the data set is massively misleading.
I think the number is much higher than that.
The activist media and BLM Incorporated, they are harmonies of each other towards the same stated goal.
And you see here the media continuing to go out of their way to try to produce cover fire for BLM Inc. through a study from the Academy, the true origination of this at Princeton University.
We are going to dive deeper into what we can do about this prescriptively throughout the week.
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