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July 24, 2020 - The Charlie Kirk Show
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The State of Trump 2020 with National Press Secretary Hogan Gidley

National Press Secretary of the Trump 2020 Campaign, Hogan Gidley, joins the Charlie Kirk Show to give an update from the field on the state of the race as it currently stands, and a prediction on where it goes from here. What should conservatives...

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Hey, everybody.
Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show with the National Press Secretary for the Trump campaign, Hogan Gidley, who has been fighting the fake news media for quite some time and doing a great job of it.
Hogan, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
Oh, I really appreciate it.
Thanks so much for the time.
You bet.
How are things going at the Trump campaign?
There's a lot of fake news going on around right now.
And as our listeners know, the thing that drives me more than anything else is to make sure that we get the president four more years.
Nothing could be more important for the future of our republic and the future of our country.
Give us an update from the Trump campaign.
Yeah, absolutely.
And I agree with you 100%.
And I have been fighting the fake news media now for the better part of 20 years in politics.
And I've never seen anything like this campaign apparatus in my entire life.
The digital reach of the Trump campaign is unmatched.
It is the envy of the political universe.
The fundraising apparatus, also historic in nature.
And what's so great about that is it kind of dovetails nicely with all the historic accomplishments in record-setting time that Donald Trump has been able to deliver on for the American people.
I mean, you know, you run on promises when you're running a campaign.
He can now run on the promises that are kept because he did so many of the things, if not all, that he made promises on on the campaign trail.
So now that he's been in office and he has a record to run on, I do find it very interesting that Donald Trump in just three short years is running on a staunch, strict, tough record of protecting the American people at every turn, rebuilding our military and other things.
And Joe Biden has been in office for half of a century, and he's still talking about all the things that are wrong with this country.
So what's he been doing for the last five decades is what I want to know.
But here at the campaign, I think things are going really well.
We're buckling up for the next 100 days so we can finish with a flurry and bring this thing home for another four years.
Yeah, completely.
And the media has not at all portrayed how the Trump campaign has built out a true 21st century modern apparatus.
I think my favorite part of the Chris Wallace interview was the thing that I think the president and your campaign has talked about more, which is, and the American people won't tolerate a candidate that will not engage in the public sphere.
And Biden has been able to hide under the China virus restrictions.
When the president said, I can do this interview, and Joe Biden can't, that's a very winning message that you have a candidate that can actually communicate and is actually able to interface, whereas the other side is unwilling to do so.
Hogan, we get thousands and thousands of emails here on the Charlie Kirk show, and a lot of them are asking me, what is the message for 2020?
What is the theme?
How would you best describe that, and how would you brand and message the reelection ethos, if you will, for the Trump campaign?
Well, a couple of things.
First of all, let me just point out what you just said.
I think the part of the interview that you're right.
The president did a good job pointing out the fact that he could do the interview for an hour, but also, let's be clear, he did it outside in 100-degree heat.
There is no way that Joe Biden could last an hour with Chris Wallace, but he definitely couldn't do it outside.
I mean, you and I both know how we think that would kind of end up for Joe Biden.
So that's a very good point.
And, of course, I love the president fact-checking Chris Wallace in real time and showing him where he was wrong.
Oh, that was brilliant.
And then Chris Wallace edits the interview horrifically.
And so I thought you guys handled that very well.
The White House did, I should say.
Yeah, absolutely.
But look, I think as we move closer to the election day itself and we focus in on tighter messaging around this campaign, we do want to focus on rebuilding, restoring, and renewing what this country was under this president before it was attacked by a virus that came from China.
You know, when this president acted boldly, decisively to shut down travel from China and from Europe, he was mocked.
He was ridiculed.
Everything he did was wrong.
It was racist and xenophobic.
And Joe Biden led that charge.
And now Joe Biden's got to come out and say, yeah, no, it probably saved some lives.
And it's interesting because President Trump was right again.
And when the media is telling you and when the experts are, or they're reporting, I guess the media is reporting on what the experts are saying, which is 2.2 million people were going to die in this country, every single death is tragic.
No question about that.
But this president's action saved millions of lives.
I mean, that's just undeniable at this point.
And so thankfully, we have a president who isn't concerned by placating to the mainstream media or the D.C. elites, the D.C. establishments.
He wants to protect the American people.
And because he ran an election really that had no special interest group support at all, he's not beholden to anybody except for the American voter, except for the American family.
You see that every single day.
And he rebuilt this economy once.
He'll do it again.
And so I think that's going to be a large part of what we're talking about moving into the second term.
So a lot of the Trump base right now is wondering what to make of these polls.
I think the polls have been suppression polls and very deceiving.
What do you make of some of the recent polls that have come out that are not exactly favorable in the Trump campaign direction?
Yeah, you know this.
The president says they're fake polls, and he knows because they are fake polls.
It's the same pollsters, the same methodology, the same myopic view of how these things are conducted from 2016.
The same people who got it wrong then are getting it wrong now.
And you see that because in exit polling, for example, if we can get a little wonky for a second, exit polling in 2016 showed 36% of those sampled were Democrats.
Well, in this latest Fox poll, they sampled 46% Democrats.
That's 10% higher.
That's incredible.
So, of course, you're going to get that.
And also, national polls are typically junk because they take in a lot of voters from New York and California because those are the numbers on the rolls, meaning it's obviously going to be skewed left.
In fact, most national polls have 10% of respondents from California.
That's obviously going to skew the numbers as well.
But when you look at some of the, I know you've talked about this, Charlie, but when you look at some of the registration that's going on out there, it's overwhelmingly Republican over Democrat.
People are excited and enthusiastic about this president.
And you see, when he has an unannounced teletown hall, five of them this past weekend, we had over 4.5 million views as of Monday on those things.
He didn't even announce it and get 4.5 million views.
Donald Trump supporters would literally walk across broken glass to vote for him.
You can't get a Joe Biden supporter to click on a link to watch him on the internet.
It's embarrassing.
And look, I understand because every time he pops out of that hidey hole, he's talking about kids rubbing his leg hair and not knowing the date of the year of 9-11.
I mean, he makes a lot of mistakes, but it's worse than just the gaffing and the messing up.
It's the policies.
They're so destructive and so reminiscent of socialism because he's an empty vessel now that's been filled by Bernie Sanders and AOC and Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib and Elizabeth Warren.
And so it's a dangerous place that this former vice president, this shell of a man, is trying to take us.
And, you know, the president's going to stand up to it and stand up for America.
Yeah, that's well said.
And there is very little to no enthusiasm for Joe Biden.
You saw this in the BLM Inc. arson across the country where none of them had Joe Biden for president signs.
None of them had any sort of enthusiasm.
And you look at just when Joe Biden tries to do a Facebook Live, most of the comments are negative and there's very little response.
My question, though, Hogan, is do you think that people might not come and support Biden?
But do you think will they come to vote against Trump if they try to turn this into a referendum just strictly and solely on the president?
Do you think that they might be able to gin up support?
Or do you think that people have to actually go vote for something?
Well, I do think a couple of little layers there.
I do think the media is trying to make this a referendum on Trump, no doubt, because they definitely don't want to talk about Joe Biden's horrific record.
That's pretty obvious.
But as far as the voting is concerned, typically, and polls will tell you this, good polls actually, will tell you that people don't go out to vote against something.
That doesn't motivate people to get off the couch.
It motivates people to go out and vote for something.
And our supporters, many of those who were on the left politically, but have been getting kicked in the teeth because they were middle America and the manufacturing sector for decades, and Donald Trump came in and helped them, broke right through that blue wall.
Many of those supporters are 100% going to support this president.
So I just feel like as we look and move into the last hundred days here, the layered question you asked is absolutely a poignant one.
But people don't vote for negatives.
They vote for positives.
Now, with this whole Democrat wave of this universal mail-in voting, which is just absolutely fraught with danger and allows cheating top to bottom, that's insane.
So that's a problem we're having to watch out for and fight against.
But I think the president's going to be in good shape because people want to go out and vote for a future that they want, for a future that is going to be good for their children and for their livelihoods and for their families.
Debates, Mail-in Voting, and Choices 00:04:20
That's what people want.
And so I think that's what President Trump gives them.
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Well, one of the things I think the Democrats are going to try to do going into the fall is they're going to try to find a reason to not have the president debate Joe Biden, or they might have him do him over some sort of silly Skype call.
And I've been a huge, huge opponent to all these lockdowns.
I think they're doing such damage and destruction to our country.
I think we need to open up America immediately and instantaneously.
And I think part of the reason is that they're going to try to not have a presidential campaign and hide behind the lockdowns.
And that will hurt Trump in a lot of different ways.
How are you guys trying to position to make sure Joe Biden debates?
Because you can already start to see people put out trial balloons.
I think it was Thomas Friedman at the New York Times who said, yeah, Joe Biden shouldn't debate because of the tax returns or something nonsense.
And you can start to see, and Hogan, you know the media really well.
They'll float it out by some intelligentsia member like Thomas Friedman, who's a very loyal apparatchik of the Democrat apparatus, if you will.
And then they will start to repeat it on MSNBC.
Next thing you know, it'll be in the Zeitgeist.
Oh, maybe Joe Biden shouldn't debate.
What will Trump do?
It'll only help Trump, right?
We're only going to give Trump something he wants.
What can you guys do?
And your position, I'm sure, is you want the debates.
We need the debates.
Well, we want the debates.
But I think flagging it early is probably helpful.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we've been talking about that.
We want the debate.
Sure.
We want to see these two men stand side by side.
But look, I can already see, too, the narrative of the media is just trying to downplay it, you know, downplay and set expectations really low for Joe Biden so that he comes out and if he says three sentences, they're going to say, wow, he really cleaned President Trump's clock.
But the fact is, putting them on a debate stage is going to be very significant for a lot of reasons.
You get to see side by side the comparison.
And you know, Charlie, elections are about choices.
And I love this kind of line of debate here.
And you're so good at these debates.
You understand.
But I tell this to the media all the time.
You don't have to guess what the economy would look like with Joe Biden.
You saw it for eight years.
Kick the American worker in the tee, 60,000 manufacturing plants shut down, 3.5 million jobs to China, depressed wages.
We all know the stats.
Donald Trump, 7 million jobs, created 500,000 manufacturing, stock market record highs, cut taxes, cut regulations, business is coming back.
The difference side by side, the choice is so clear.
And you don't have to guess what it would look like in our city streets if Joe Biden were elected.
The lawlessness, the looting, the rioting, the assaults on innocent Americans, burning churches.
He didn't say anything except defund the police.
So when you put those things in a real-time comparison, the American people are going to see someone in Donald Trump who has real successes to show that have improved their lives greatly, regardless of color, race, religion, or creed.
And Joe Biden, who for 50 years has been in office, paid by the taxpayer, and is still complaining today about the same things he was complaining about 50 years ago when he was palling around with white supremacists.
I mean, that's going to be a big difference.
I think that's something we can point to.
Well, and Joe Biden is a bitter, he's a bitter racist, and we need to call him a racist.
The left doesn't know how to deal with things when you call them a racist.
All of a sudden, they say, oh, you're not allowed to say that.
Like, no, you're racist because you call us that every single day.
Joe Biden was best friends with segregationists.
Joe Biden wanted segregated by bus and was even called out by his now best friend, Senator Kamala Harris, when she said that little girl was me about a year ago.
Joe Biden said you can't walk into a 7-Eleven without a slight Indian accent.
Joe Biden called black people super predators in the 1990s.
Joe Biden authored the Clinton crime bill.
Joe Biden said he'd never seen a good-looking, smooth-talking black man until Barack Obama.
Joe Biden is a bitter racist, and we need to say that.
Convention Hope vs. Biden's Past 00:05:57
And we need to say it clearly and enthusiastically, not enthusiastically, but very clearly and loudly.
And like all things, and the president's the best at this, and I believe he will do this even more, once we have a campaign.
And we have to keep reminding ourselves that we don't really have a campaign right now.
And I mean that in the sense where Joe Biden's not campaigning.
In order for a campaign to exist, you need someone to be able to have back and forth and rallies and all that.
And I guess part of it's going to be when Joe Biden picks a vice president.
Today there was a story that came out and is in Politico about the RNC restricting convention attendance.
Can you give us an update about the Republican National Convention and what you guys are planning for that?
Yeah, it looks like the first few days are going to be resigned to just delegates, not alternates.
Look, the president wants to have a convention.
He wants to thank the great state of Florida, one of those toss-up states that actually helped catapult him to the actual presidency.
He wants to deliver a message directly to the American people.
He wants to get out there and show everyone he's excited and ready for a second term.
And let's be honest, the supporters, the voters want to see him as well.
And they want to get out there and cheer on the man who systematically changed their lives for the better.
And so right now, we're working with the officials on the ground, the governor, the law enforcement, of course, the mayor as well.
So we're trying to figure out exactly how this thing's going to look right now.
But I can assure you this, we're going to do it in a safe way.
And with temperature checks for every single person and hand sanitizer and masks for every single person.
That's a heck of a lot more than the looters and the rioters did.
In fact, I often joke that I almost wish the federal government hadn't given $1.6 billion to Project Warp Speed to try and find a vaccine.
The Democrats found it.
The media found it.
They told us.
All you got to do is go out and smash in storefronts, and that's not going to spread the virus.
You want to riot in the streets and burn down churches?
That's not going to spread the virus.
So I almost wish they hadn't spent the money because it seems like they found the cure.
But we're putting in safety measures and regardless of how this convention actually looks, and we're excited to move forward with it.
Well, and I encourage, I would love to see a full convention.
And I know that you guys have internal decisions to make with all that.
I totally appreciate it.
But you look at our event that we did in Phoenix.
We had 3,400 students there.
We have no evidence as of the recording of this that there was any surge in cases at all whatsoever with 3,400 young people in the room hearing from the president of the United States.
And also South Dakota.
The president gave one of the best speeches of his presidency.
It was a phenomenal speech.
Really was.
Right in front of Mount Rushmore.
And just as of three days ago, there were active cases were down by 10 in South Dakota with no new deaths.
That was three days ago.
And there was a slight increase about 10 days later, but part of that is just probably baked into tourist season.
But it wasn't the surge that the people said that there would be.
So I think that there is, I think there is more space to be able to do live events again.
And I know you guys are tracking that very closely and make the best and most informed decision.
And I think that this is the president's greatest political asset.
I mean, it's something that historically we've never seen before, where a president can just show up without a rock band or a famous celebrity and just draw 30,000 people.
I mean, we've never seen anything like it.
And Joe Biden wants to rob that.
He wants to take it away from the president.
Of course, because the contrast is so stark.
Again, it's about choices, but when you have one on one hand and one on the other, you're absolutely right.
Joe Biden didn't want to see the president filling up these arenas, overflowing with capacity and overflow parking lots full with big screens and everything else.
He didn't want to see that because he knows he can't pull that.
Not just that.
He couldn't last for a two-hour rally.
There's no way.
So, you know, again, I'm anxious to see how this thing's going to turn out and how it's going to look.
The media is covering for Joe Biden at every single turn, regardless of what he says.
You point out articulately just a moment ago, the left always accuses the right of the very thing they themselves are guilty of actually doing.
Yeah, it's absolutely insane.
I joked the other day.
I watched this whole defund the police argument.
The media just, you know, Chris Wallace was chief among them saying, no, no, he didn't.
He never said defund the police, sir.
He never said defund the police.
He said redirect.
Will you redirect funding?
He said, yes, absolutely.
And I ask everyone listening to this interview, I'm not going to defund you.
I'm just going to redirect money out of your paycheck into my bank account.
That's defunding.
That's cutting.
That's insane.
But to watch the media try and twist this to make Joe Biden seem like he's not radical is just absolutely ludicrous.
Yes, yes.
And the president, I mean, look, the president did a phenomenal job with the Chris Wallace interview.
And I thought Chris Wallace made a fool of himself.
The way he handled that was, I mean, I have never seen him be that tough on anyone.
And he tried to, it was really a bizarre interview, to be honest.
He was cutting back and forth with him, with James Comey, to prove that he was really tough.
And the question he asked James Comey was like the lightest softball question ever.
And then he goes with the president and is like, you're not telling the truth to the American people.
And if the president, the fact that he actually endured the entire interview, I think really shows a contrast.
And I think the more, every time the president sits down with one of these apparatchiks like Chris Wallace, he should say, Joe Biden can't do this.
And I know from voters in my own personal circle, they get very silent, and they agree that the president is willing to talk to anyone at any time.
And I think it's one of the president's greatest assets and one of his greatest selling points is that he is unafraid to have these kind of conversations.
And that's why I think the president should do Joe Rogan's podcast.
Could you imagine Joe Biden on Joe Rogan's podcast?
I mean, for three hours?
I mean, it would actually be a medical emergency.
I think that it would be...
America Together: Faith and Victory 00:04:36
In fairness, it would be can't miss.
That's exactly right.
The president would handle it really well because the president loves that sort of stuff.
And I think that the more that we're able to portray to America that you have a very committed and obviously qualified person in a variety of ways as president and someone that you can actually trust to be able to rebuild the American economy.
So in closing, Hogan, I know we only have a couple minutes left here.
There are a lot of people that need a message of hope.
Our podcast is getting record amounts of listens and downloads.
And I get emails from people that say, Charlie, is it over?
What can I do?
I mean, is our country done?
Is the campaign over with?
And I know, Hogan, it's hard to hear sometimes, but can you just give that message of how it's still very early in the campaign, how in 2016 we went through the very same similar stuff that they're doing now, and they're trying to develop again, acting as if we don't remember?
What's your message to those people?
Well, I can give that message, Charlie, because it's true.
Look, America is the greatest idea ever realized.
It is a true beacon of goodness, of strength, of hope, and compassion across the globe.
You know, we're talking right now because you love this country and because you cherish what we are, who we are as a people.
And difficult times are not unique to America.
They're just not.
But what is unique to this nation is that after we face down to adversity, we get through it together and we come out stronger.
That, to me, is the message of what America is.
And you pointed out the president's speech from Mount Rushmore.
My goodness, what an incredible speech.
It was unifying.
It was uplifting.
It was patriotic.
He loves his country.
And his policies made the lives better for every single American, regardless of their race or color or religion or creed.
You've never seen a president like this in modern history.
Not just who can fight back against a mainstream media that's out to get him or a left that the right is used to kowtowing to.
This president cares deeply about the country.
And we've talked about the successes.
You've talked about it.
I'm not going to rattle off all of them here on the call.
But this is a stark difference.
This is an obvious choice.
A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for you.
A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for America and its greatness.
And that's something that I think no one can take away.
And while the media are doing their level best to try and lie about this president and fulfill their own selfish socialist agendas, I think the American people are standing up and saying no more.
And these autonomous zones are absolutely ludicrous.
And you see what democratic governance not just has led to, but has allowed ever since.
And so I just want your folks not to get down because Joe Biden doesn't just think America is inherently evil.
He thinks it's the cause of the world's problems.
That's a complete different opinion.
And quite frankly, it's just not true.
But Donald Trump's not in that position.
He thinks this country is great.
He thinks it's faced tough times.
We've come through it together.
We're going to get through it together again, and we're going to come out so much more unified and so much stronger on the backside because at its core, this country is a wonderful place to live.
It is inherently good.
And people should thank God every day that they get to live in the freest, most prosperous place on the planet.
Amen.
I think the more that people recognize who Joe Biden is and the forces behind him, this race will really begin to tip in the president's favor.
And never count out the president.
One of my other favorite lines of the Chris Wallace interview was: boy, people have counted me out before, and that is not a good bet to make.
And I completely and totally agree with that.
So, Hogan, I know you got a busy schedule.
Thank you for joining us.
Keep the faith, and we'll be celebrating once the president gets re-elected.
So, thanks so much, man.
Hey, keep up the good work, Charlie.
I really appreciate you out there fighting.
I love watching the videos on TV, on YouTube, everywhere.
And you guys keep up the fight.
We're here with you.
Thanks, man.
See you soon.
Appreciate it.
Thanks.
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