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May 19, 2023 - One American - Chase Geiser
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Ryan Katsu Rivera Talks Censored.tv, Gavin McInnes & More With Chase Geiser On One American Podcast
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You guys ever get in like a blowout argument?
Yes.
Is it suck?
Um moment, yeah, because I don't really like I don't I don't love confrontation.
I'm not anti-confrontational, but um yeah, we have and a lot of them have been on I if not all of them have been on camera.
There's been only like two, maybe that haven't been on camera.
Really?
So your blowouts are just live on air.
Yeah.
I always thought that was just like part of the show.
No, it's just a real blowout.
We we went through because there's the pressure of like we're doing a show and then something goes wrong.
Um so there's that, so it feels like we're failing to uh to to look professional, but then we address it, which is kind of unprofessional, but it's also entertaining.
And when the collapse happens, the prices plummet, and when the prices plummet, the political class buys everything.
Dude, I did a deep dive research on all this mysterious deaths around the Clintons.
About a dozen that are just fucking hard to shake.
And be happy.
Look at you, you start a show with absolutely nothing, and you have thousands and thousands of listeners, and you have force multipliers that send your content at I was actually talking to Chase Geyser.
He hadn't seen this, it just came out and said, Oh, you see this, that you know, all these documents.
Oh, I shouldn't even say what he said.
I shouldn't have said his name.
Uh I won't tell you what he said.
I actually did a Getter stream last night with Chase Geyser.
Fantastic interview.
Thank you.
Thank you.
How did you meet uh Gavin?
The I met him at compound media.
Okay, and then it was like a couple years after that when he left compound for CRTV, and his producer um resigned, and then uh he was gonna just bring me on just to try me out, basically.
We're gonna be like, let's see, you know, um, until I get a real producer, basically.
And then I was kind of just like I think we both thought it was a perfect fit, and then we just kept going with it.
Yeah.
So you learn basically how to do all like the switching fly-ins, all the basically technical shit that's involved.
People don't realize it's hard, man.
It is, it's it's difficult.
I mean, I so I knew some of the stuff from uh compound media.
Yeah, working with Pat Dixon there, but so me and him were uh record after all the regular technicians would leave, and um they just gave me, you know, John Sereno there gave me like a rundown of how to work everything and then but it's not only it's not until started working with Gavin where when it's all on you and you have to figure out all of the things, like you don't just click different cameras and shit.
You have to actually uh you know route all this stuff, especially when we moved here from scratch, that you're actually plugging in cables to the right or in the back of the soundboard of the switcher or whatever.
Yeah, it's there's a lot of wires, a lot of routing.
And the cable management is pretty terrible, like in in my office here, but it's because things will happen that I don't understand, and I will have to just like switch things around.
Or, you know, Gavin's very like um like he I need to be agile for his ideas.
He'll have like new ideas where we have different sets setups of uh, you know, like this third shot.
We'd have a new set essentially built uh for different things.
We have the bar set and stuff like that, so um you need to be able to unplug things and then just try new reconfigurations so that to me.
You guys ever get in like a blowout argument?
Yes.
Is it suck?
Um moment, yeah, because I don't really like I don't I don't love confrontation.
I'm not anti-confrontational, but um yeah, we have and a lot of them have been on I if not all of them have been on camera.
There's been only like two Maybe that haven't been on camera.
Really?
So your blowouts are just live on air.
Yeah.
I always thought that was just like part of the show.
No, it's just a real blowout.
We we went through because there's the pressure of like we're doing a show and then something goes wrong.
Um so there's that.
So it feels like we're failing to uh to to look professional, but then we address it, which is kind of unprofessional, but it's also entertaining.
Right, right.
It's like when uh do you remember when Rogan went through that phase where he was an asshole to Jamie?
It was a very short phase, like four or five years ago, way before the Spotify deal.
I just remember, and I don't know if it was because he was like experimenting with like some sort of like steroids or something at the time, but there was a period where he was fucking snapping on Jamie all the time.
I'm like, is that is that part of the food show?
Like, I don't know.
I don't know if he's all or not.
I I remember one thing where Rogan like asked him to pull, he's like, hey, where is that thing?
And it wasn't even dickish, to be honest, and Jamie couldn't handle it, and he snapped back, he was like, Well, I'm doing this and I'm doing that at the same time, so yeah, it's gonna take some time.
And I'm like, bro, you would not be able to handle working with Gavin at all.
Like this is that was really like lame that to snap back that on something that lame.
So if Brogan came to you with a solid opera, would you just abandon Gavin all like no problem?
Or or is there a loyalty that's built in then with the abuse?
There's definitely a loyalty, because I mean, um I don't I don't think that I desire more money, like that much more money.
Any money that I that I would need or want, I feel like can be fulfilled with this company.
And we built it from nothing, and yeah, and you're basically banned everywhere, right?
I mean, you you only broadcast from censored.tv, right?
Yeah.
And amazing in and of itself.
I mean, I I'm I'm I think I'm still less subscriber.
I'm not sure if I still pay or not, but I was I watch it from my Roku app all the time.
Nice.
Yeah, well then you must be.
Yeah, I must be.
I don't know.
I'll have to look and see if I still am because it's been a minute since I've tuned in.
Um, but I yeah, I love uh get off my lawn and Pat Dixon was the one that put me on to it because I had Pat on my podcast.
Oh, really?
And then Pat introduced me to Gavin, and that's how he got Gavin on mine.
No way, that's how I met you.
So yeah, Pat's the shit.
He's freaking hilarious, dude.
Yeah, he really does.
Yeah.
He's a good bud.
And I'm glad that he's on this network now, you know, because um that's where it all started.
I mean, I did an impression of him.
Um, and he was on compound media, and then Anthony Coomy retweeted that, and I was like, This is the best day of my life.
Um my job, I had a couple of jobs around the time that I was listening to Opie and Anthony, but it was mostly like a an a restaurant job, and I was just working in the kitchen, and I was allowed since it was just me back there, I could listen to whatever I want.
So it'd be Opian Anthony like all day, like hours and hours and hours of O. And then um, so him retweeting me meant a lot.
At that time, he was already fired from uh from Sirius, so he's he was starting compound, and uh oddly enough, I didn't sign up to compound media to hear more Anthony because I was like, Well, I'm already I already I don't pay for anything really online,
I don't have any subscriptions, and I like Opi and Anthony, and just Anthony is awesome, and I want to support him, but there wasn't anything to really push me over the edge because I was like paying whatever a month was not in my price range back then.
I was very, very broke, and um so what actually got me to sign up to compound media was hearing uh uh like a little snippet of Gavin's interview with some other dude, and he said, and uh I was like, and I was like, dude, I've never heard somebody say that without being like, well, I'm just using the words like he unapologies unapologetically, unapologetically said like the worst words that you could say, right?
And didn't like even on Opian Anthony, they would like kind of shy around, they would around certain words, but he was just like full force, and so I was like, I'd like to hear more of this guy because his humor isn't typical, um like this is you know, like check the boxes of funny funny.
It's just the ideas that he has are uh have humor built into them.
So it's not like these are jokes, which is kind of like the Opian Anthony stuff.
It was it was more subtle, and so I was like, I'd like to hear more of that.
And that's when I signed up to compound media, honestly.
So tell me about your background doing impressions because I've seen you view some of like the face swap stuff.
How did that all start for you?
The face swap stuff Gavin really wanted, he was like, Can we make that happen?
And uh for a while I said no, it's impossible.
And then um people started sending me stuff like dude, it's really possible.
You can absolutely do that.
And I was like, okay.
But right now, the the setup that I have to do it is kind of uh wonky, like convoluted.
Well, well, well, well that was my Jim Gaffigan face.
So basically, it's uh I'm using the back end of a program that lets you do a face swap thing.
I do like there's um snap camera, which allows you to um I don't use like Snapchat filters on your computer, but that doesn't output to the tricaster.
So what I had to do was um get the editor software for it where you could actually like make faces and tweak them and do different effects.
So this isn't meant to be a final product, basically.
Like um, this is what I'm looking at here, if you could see.
Um like there's just a bunch of uh shit here, like uh all these parameters, and you gotta film it.
It's almost like it's it's version of like um after effects, but just for the specific thing or character animator, and um this isn't meant to be a final product, but what I do is I use the preview window to to send it to the computer.
Basically, it's just it's like a rigged system.
It's I had to kind of come up with like a weird solution for it.
I gotta show you some shit that I've been working on, dude.
Let me see if I can find it real quick.
I uh been working on this um the the voice clone stuff.
Have you have you fucked with any of that at all?
Yeah, but is it like real time?
Is it real time?
No, but it's almost real time.
Like I can I can have it do any any sentence in any voice, like within maybe 30 seconds, but it's not real time.
Is it 11 studios?
I use it's called um the how's it called play.
Alright, hold on, I'm gonna look this up and figure out what it's called.
Sure.
I because we have one that we use for um we have uh a friend that's in prison for Jan 6, Nick Oakes.
Yeah, yeah, I heard by him.
Yeah, and he um he writes us uh a transcript, he just writes us a letter, and then we I use the face swap.
I use his face.
We talked about this before he went into prison because he knew when he would receive it.
And you like make it make it look like he's saying it.
Yeah, I just I just do this.
And the voice clone thing, it's it like really really did a good job of picking up his voice.
So here's the one that I use.
It's called play.ht.
And it's very inexpensive.
You pay by how many words you want to use.
So like you pay like 15 bucks and it gives you like 5,000 words transcribed, which is quite a bit.
So what I did, and I'll just share my screen and show you.
Let me see if I can do it a window.
Let me know if the sound comes through on this and should.
Sure.
You hearing it?
No.
You couldn't hear it?
No.
Okay.
Let me see if I can get it done.
Window.
Supposed to be it.
Was it Trump?
There's Trump, there's me, and there's your rogue on this one.
Wow.
What I'll do is I'll I'll rip the video and then um, and then I should be able to play it for you uh with audio.
Nice.
So I'll go to video here.
Actually, what I can just go to studio here.
Or I'll chop this up so it's tighter when we publish, so don't worry about it.
this the chat GPT or not really chat GPT, but this but like specifically like the voice emulator, it it aims to replace my job of a of a guy who does voices.
Yeah, but it's funnier if a real person does it.
Yeah, there is stuff something still to it that's it's not even like a quaint uh more like oh there's more genuine or something.
It's not always about the accuracy as it is like funny.
I know people that you know, like Tim Dylan does a Joe Rogan impression.
That's I don't think it sounds less like when I do Joe Rogan, but it's funnier because he's just spamming the lesson man, hey man.
Let me know if you can hear this one.
Can you hear it?
No.
All right.
What I'm gonna do is Damn presenting.
It says you're presenting, which sounds like a mating thing.
You're presenting.
Can you hear it?
No.
I can't.
What the fuck?
Did you hear it?
No.
I was holding my uh I was holding my uh my cans up to the mic.
I'm wondering, do you have like a noise gate on?
Because like I had to disable I might have a noise gate on.
And that could be just a matter of the uh Google settings.
But what I'll do.
Oh, I tell you what, how about this?
Let's try now.
I just turned it off.
Let's see if that worked.
Thank you.
No, put it a little closer.
No.
What the fuck?
Smash, like just take one of the earphones and then smash it like write it like this.
Why don't I just send you the link to the video?
And maybe you can Yeah, wait, do that.
I'll I'll Google chat the link to you to some funny that we're drinking.
This is this is the kind of shit that like you and Gavin would snap at each other over, right?
On a live show.
I really don't I try not to snap back because that's that's not a an um uh a subordinate's place, but sometimes it does happen when there's legitimately things that I uh are beyond my control, but yet I'm getting a why didn't you do that type of thing?
All right, I just have the link to the video through Google chat.
All right, let's see here.
In the beginning?
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, we only we only need to listen to like 30 seconds of it, it's 10 minutes long, but you'll get it after 30 seconds.
Is fake, folks.
Chase Geyser did not interview Donald Trump.
In fact, neither Chase or President Trump are really in this video at all.
It's all artificial intelligence.
Welcome everybody to another episode of One American Podcast.
I'm your host, Chase Geyser, and we have a very special guest.
Please welcome the 45th president of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
Mr. Trump, thank you for joining us today.
Thank you, Chase.
And it's just fantastic to finally be a guest.
Well, dude.
Wait, so how do you make the mouth move?
So I I I did kind of like what you do with your mind.
Just like Jerry rigged different things.
So there's a program that I found on some random website of random programs that people go up there where you can upload any cell image or video of someone's face, as long as they're not speaking in the clip.
Right.
And you can upload juxtapos to that any audio file of speaking, and it will automatically make the lips move in accordance with what words are spoken in the audio file.
Can you link me to that bad boy too?
Because we actually had to do something like that for the Nick Oak show.
Yeah.
Like so we wanted basically the concept.
I think you already get it, is like through CGI, I mean through AI, we are able to bring this prisoner's letters to life.
And um Gavin wanted the intro to intro to be kind of like uh Twilight Zony.
Like the future.
And he also wanted to, you know, somehow like let people know that this is uh a face swapped type of thing.
So um the face is clearly like uh uh you know goofy.
Okay.
It's supposed to be like his it's his face on his own face.
Um to the Capitol on January 6th, despite being there as a reporter, he was deemed a white nationalist domestic terrorist, and now he won't see his black wife and kids until 2000 nice work, justice system.
Fortunately, through modern technology, we are able to bring his letters to life live from the correctional facility in Butner.
Order from prison storing the goats.
Very cool.
I'm in solitary confinement.
Yeah, it's it's it's uncanny.
There's a lot of you know, it's it's almost drawing how weird it all is, like unsettling.
And but once you get past that, Nick Oaks is like a really great writer, and um you know, even when I talked to him on the phone, he just he thinks he thinks very poetically, but he's is also very like poignant about what he's saying too.
It's not he's got plenty of time to think about what he wants to say too.
He does he's he's always been like that, though.
So he it's good.
This could only sharpen his yeah, so has he been convicted yet, or is he still like awaiting trial?
No, he he has been.
He he did a uh he did a plea deal and took four years.
And um four years, yeah.
Yeah, so he's he hasn't even done, I think he's just done a couple months so far.
Pretty bad.
They didn't include time served.
No, because he was out.
He might have done he might have done a little time, but did he like go into the building?
Yeah, he did.
So that's where that's why they were able to get him.
Yeah.
Man, that's so brutal.
That's such poor shit.
And yeah, you know, it'd be different if people like him would want to know that if I'm intending to like hunter by Biden's and all the little blocks that do terrible job locked out.
I am back again, by the way.
I don't change, but I just want to let you know.
I think something um something just came out about Hunter, by the way.
And that said that every day, yeah.
Like a handity, not like a handity thing saying that he might actually be arrested in soon.
I don't know how to do it, but Hannity said it.
Hannity's kind of butt, what else?
You're still hearing yourself?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yep.
I must have been something when we were doing share screen or something.
Now it sounds better.
It is really yeah.
Okay, I know exactly that though.
Wow, it's the preview window window.
Interesting.
Okay, yeah, I'm learning still stuff.
We just got a new computer too, like a new MacBook or a new Mac, whatever Mac Mini.
And just having to fucking re uh end.
The studio is like the real fat one.
Studio's cool, but we got I like it.
I like the studio.
I use the studio over here, and it's just like a workhorse, man.
The tower.
Yeah, it's like yeah, like it's like it's like basically the big Mac version of a Mac Mini.
Yeah, it's like it's just double.
They got some weird ones, like uh that we when we were with CRTV, like they had like a studio in uh in the Flat Iron District, and uh they had an Apple thing that I had never seen before.
But it might be the one you're talking about, and yours is the Mac Proc Pro.
Mac Studio, I think I got the more expensive of the two.
Check this one out.
The one if you look up Mac Apple Mac Pro, like the 2013 ones or whatever.
Look at look at how fucking weird these look.
Like, oh yeah, the towers.
Those are for like uh those are for like USDS.
I'm still here myself by the way.
Damn it.
Oh, that's probably because of this.
Now good seems better.
Yeah, uh it's much better, but it's still there a little bit.
Weird, just a baby amount.
I if I don't talk too loud, I don't hear it back so much.
Interesting.
I'm uh good.
Okay, so it works now.
That's good.
Yeah, maybe it was bleed through your headphones.
Could have been.
It could have been bleed.
Yeah, do you have it cranked?
No, I I decranked it.
I decranked it.
It was cranked though.
So what's next for sensitive TV, man.
We got uh a tour going on.
That's um so we we did a tour in Austin last year.
We are, yeah.
When uh let me see.
I've got the dates right here.
Right down the road.
I live in Austin right now.
You live down the road from Austin?
I'm in Austin technically, but I'm at the very edge.
Let's see.
I've been near the edge, and I've been to the age.
By the way, I got these disposable toothbrushes, they're the best.
Quip.
Are they the quip?
They are the Colgate Wisps.
Wisp.
Sorry.
Quip wisp, you know.
Um, so yeah, we're doing Austin.
June 16th.
Uh Tampa.
If I buy tickets, can you get me like VIP access?
Because yeah, I know you guys.
You could absolutely go there.
The one we we had in uh in California, believe it or not, that that was like um the start of the tour was in California in Torrance, and we had no protesters, no nothing.
Nobody calling the venue saying, hey, what the fuck?
No one's gonna give you guys any shit here.
In Austin?
No.
I mean, Joe Rogan does shit every fucking week here.
Joe Rogan Joe Rogan is mainstream.
He like he still has UFC shit going on.
Like why did he take the episode down with Gavin?
I don't know.
Did he ever tell you guys about that?
Probably said some spicy things, but I mean Gavin makes some like shocking points about incest in Saudi Arabia, but it wasn't like anything inaccurate.
It's probably I have a feeling it was like suggested by Spotify and just to make life easier at the time.
And then also he knows here's the thing too.
So all that stuff is still on on YouTube, and I think he knows it's gonna live forever anyway.
So it's on archive.org too.
I downloaded all the band episodes.
Yeah, and we we have them on our site too.
But yeah, maybe he kind of realized like, all right, oh, I'm just taking it off of Spotify.
They still exist all over the place.
So um maybe that I I don't I don't love that that's the position he was he had to be put in, but it's whatever.
I mean, he still likes Gavin.
He said he before that whole thing happened where Spotify was kind of like um, hey, pump too much.
Two million words, right?
Yeah.
Which I agree.
Um, but so they he uh he wanted Gavin on.
He wanted him to be one of the first guests.
This is what uh this is what he told um uh Anthony Cumia.
No shit.
And then they just decided that it was not the politically uh the right political environment for him to do that.
Yeah, I mean he was able to get Alex Jones on, but I guess it's probably because January 6th and somehow, you know, Proud holded into that.
Meanwhile, there were like what, like six of them total or four?
Um maybe six.
Let's say if it is 12 or 15 or 20.
Um the point is is that you have to if you have a chapter, it's like you you own like uh a McDonald's franchise, basically, and you have to follow.
Can't be a fucking you can't be like uh a Nazi.
I I I hate using the word Nazi because like only Nazis were Nazis, but you you know what I mean?
You can't be like a neo-Nazi, yeah.
We're not this isn't like the clan part two or anything.
There's a men's drinking club of all uh not all genders, all it's just all men, uh all fucking races, races, creeds, whatever.
Yeah, you could be queer.
Um you could be whatever you want.
Um so you know, no like uh no fucking racists or whatever and all that shit.
So you have to follow those rules.
Another thing you have to do, if like you want to go to protest or do something like that, you have to check in with your your chapter and say, can we go, you know, like as Proud Boys to this thing?
And they said no, like if you're gonna go to Jan January 6th, go as an individual, not as a fucking proud boy.
Right.
It's like that doesn't reflect the group.
And there wasn't any um like plan either.
You they they tried to just like look at their telegram chats and be like, well, you said uh this is war, and it's like, yeah, people fucking say that about football, you idiot.
Right, right.
It's like you Well is Gavin still involved with the Proud Boys?
No, but people remember of a chapter though, just as a regular one?
No.
I mean Well with Proud Boys and like and uh at least once a year we'll we'll hang out and we'll we'll party but last time we were there uh at Westfest, it was just uh just drinking and going around.
We didn't even I don't think there was an event to go to.
There was just like a party, there was two party houses.
Sounds like fun.
Yeah, it's really the opposite of a nefarious thing.
Which by the way, have you seen Nefarious?
No, I'm not seeing Nefarious.
What's nefarious?
Did it come out?
A new movie or something?
You're Christian, right?
Yeah, I'm a Christian.
Dude, it's very good.
Now if I have like Christ goggles on where I'm like, this is one of the best movies ever seen, but it is uh it's a movie about a psychiatrist going to evaluate um the this prisoner who's on death row, he's about to get executed that day, and his whole goal is to go in there and prove he's sane enough to be executed.
If he's insane, then he can't execute the guy.
But he claims to be possessed by a demon.
And uh most of the movie takes place just two guys in a room that the prisoner and the psychiatrist sitting in a room, and this guy's a possessed by a demon.
You know, like that's they let you know that there's no but they don't know if he's like fake in it or doesn't get executed, right?
That's what they gotta figure out.
He definitely isn't, like, there's it's crazy, dude.
Like I was uh When did it come out?
It's it's I it might be in theaters right now.
Uh you know who wrote the book?
Steve Dace or D's.
Steve D's?
Yeah.
He wrote the book.
Now the book's a little different.
I bought the book, but it's a little different than the movie, but it's two Catholic uh people that directed it.
They have a bunch of other movies that are good too.
But audio, this is how you know it's good.
Audience score of 97%.
Uh critic score 33%.
Oh, it's gotta be awesome, bro.
Really good.
Calls out a whole to see it in theaters.
I mean, to support it, I would, or just pay for it somehow.
But I think uh dude, it's it's really really good.
We went to go see it with our priest, so we had like a full fully adorned in a frock uh priest from our our church going with us, and uh it was priests like it, tackles abortion.
He did, he really did.
And uh he noticed the little dribblets of scripture every day that like the like demons are are evil, but they are still they still abide by um the reality of the Bible.
So they they drop in and and twist you know uh scripture around here and there, and like nothing really got past the pr the priest, our priest there.
I won't say his name because I guess I don't want anybody to bother him, which is a weird world we live in where you can't I know I'm up to one death threat a week.
Really?
Yeah, every time I tweet anything about Ukraine, somebody tries to see your wife gonna kill me.
Yeah, I got added to a list uh I got added to a list on Twitter of people who sit by windows, and this is a window behind me.
Like, what the fuck?
Like they probably just guessed, but still it's a nerving when you see shit like that.
Oh, was that a separate one from people that this is where they watch TV?
Yeah, it's different list, but I checked that I hope they come, bro.
I hope they come.
That's what everybody says.
That's true.
I mean, like, but if I really hope they don't, because like just I don't want to put I like a I have a wife and kids, so I don't want to put them through any trauma, even if everything works out the way it ought to.
It's uh bro, but sometimes the trauma makes it better.
Like Steve Jobs is Steve Jobs because he was adopted, bro.
True, you know, Rosie O'Donnell is Rosie O'Donnell because she had a perfectly normal upbringing.
That sounds like it almost sounds like a Kanye rant.
It's like uh Steve Jobs uh was Steve Jobs because he was uh uh he was adopted.
Um that was damn pop, wouldn't it?
She she she wouldn't have been funny if she didn't have uh uh John Goodman Disney American Express Visa, you are dude.
Yeah, you ain't gotta turn up on me, bro.
It's me sweaty.
Remember that interview with Sway and Kanye?
No, I don't even know who Sway is, dude.
Bro, but that's so white.
They they argue with each other.
No, I respect that.
True.
I I have this whole music playlist that I put together, and I was like, I don't I didn't even try to avoid rap.
I literally have no rap on there.
I had to force myself to put like little Wayne on it.
Yeah.
To show that people that I did have a phase where I liked hip hop and rap.
I was in a hip hop rock band.
Was it good?
Was it like Lincoln Park?
Is that what you mean by hip-hop rock?
There wasn't screaming.
There it was, it was less, it was more like gym class heroesy, you know.
But they're a little like fallout, like little light.
We were a little somewhere in between Limp Biscuit and uh Gym Class Heroes.
What'd you play?
Guitar.
No.
We we we had we should have utilized that a lot more, but that's back when I didn't even try to sing.
I only started um singing my own music really after that band, or like towards the end of that band's uh career.
You still make music?
I do, but it's um like I'm I've been collaborating with some things.
Uh I've been recording stuff steadily, but um not really writing the way I used to, which is just acoustic guitar and vocals and lyrics.
But I used to, you know, I used to make some of it.
Yeah, I got let me see.
What do I got?
You play one of yours, then I'll play then I'll show you one of mine.
Oh, what do you get?
You play guitar?
I used to be a musician many years ago.
Ooh.
So what I have is um mostly what I would do was um like uh synth stuff, like most of my releases are synth, which is weird because that's not even like my third instrument.
It would be guitar bass and then synth.
But when I got my laptop to finally start working with uh Pat Dixon and stuff and editing videos and using the Adobe products there, like premiere or whatever.
I was like, well, let me mess around and make some music.
So here's one of the beats.
That one's okay, but wait, where's my Wildwood one?
This one will be better if I search uh Nopey up.
That's the name of my that's the moniker for my group, which is just me, Nopyup.
Here, this one's so it's just uh that's really cool, dude.
Thanks, man.
Do you have you finished anything?
Or are you just like still working on it?
I got I do have some finished stuff.
Um but I'm trying to see if I have any what's it called?
This one's pretty neat.
This is a thing I can use.
Just GarageBand.
And the patches there.
Thank you.
Thank you.
The only thing I don't program, I I obviously edit it, but uh I don't do by scratch the drums very often.
I do I've done it, but it's easy to just they you know the the garage band drummer if you just wanna program it.
Yeah, yeah, you can tell it what in you know, like more snare or whatever like that.
There are parameters, but you can't really drums, yeah.
But all the synth stuff I do, and then there's um the singy stuff, but uh I'll I'll send you that on the other on the other.
There's I have two SoundCloud accounts, so I'd have to log into the other one.
We're fine.
But so what do you got here?
You sent me a link here?
Yeah, this is in the shit that I 10 years ago.
Nice.
let me see inspired by tom waits Ooh.
I just watched the video on Tom Waits.
I'll bring it up after this.
It's pretty interesting.
It's pretty interesting.
Oh, I hear the weights in this.
yeah gonna break the law or um going out west But anyway, you get the point.
I won't make you listen to the whole thing, but that's that was the kind of shit that I was doing in college.
I like the layering and shit there too.
Like that.
There's like one little stab of guitar that was just like I like those sorts of like little details where it's like you could absolutely live without that thing going.
But the fact that it's there is like I love attention to detail like that and layering a lot of stuff.
I figured out that the only reason I was making music at all was just so that I had something cool to mix.
Like because I love going through everyone adding the textures and stuff, more than even the songwriting.
Like I wouldn't care to play that song like on an acoustic guitar.
I'll sing it to you.
But like to put it together and like into a production is kind of it was so fun, you know.
You know, um what's it called?
Uh like Foley work where you put sound effects.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We I I took a class called Lee in college for my audio degree, and they made us do like what's stomps, you know.
Check this out.
So this is I had to do a little bit of I mean, it's not impressive Foley work, but for my show Celebrity Mailbag, I was Tony Soprano, and I I I my hair did not look like Tony Soprano's hair because I'm not horseshoe balled.
So I wore this Kango hat, and he's like, You're probably wondering why I'm wearing his fucking hat.
And he's like, it's from this infamous episode.
And so I had to pretend that it came from an episode.
So here the clip is.
Check it out.
Well, I saw my fucking tangle hat in the fucking pool.
Who put it there?
Tony.
Tony, I didn't move your fucking Kango hat.
You paranoid about that.
Ever since you bought it, you've been asking where it was.
What his mouth doesn't even move when he says what what the towel sounds, those were hard to get.
I might have even just I'm not sure.
Yeah, we had to do one.
They took a scene of uh from Born Identity for our class.
It was just like a random scene where he was like duct taping shit on a snowy mountain, and it was just muted.
Then we had to have a person come in and do the lines over the like over the lips, the lip syncing part, and like the drone sounds of like the flyover drone and the duct tape around the canteen, and it was it was like a bitch.
It took us like three hours to get a 15-second scene right.
And if you duct tape the canteen, there's a part where if he moves it, you want to hear that hollow, like sort of sound.
Dude, it's that is so fucking it sounds so painfully tedious.
But it's such a cool job, man.
Like, imagine and like even the if you watch like the sounds behind Star Wars documentaries, it's amazing how they got those lightsaber sounds by holding like a magnet next to an old school TV, and it was like the closer the magnet got it was like they're like sitting there waving it, you know, for the scenes.
They used a bunch of like metal things and like had them like rotating and grinding and stuff like that.
Yeah, and for the laser sounds, it was just the the those metal ropes that they're really tight that hold up telephone poles.
Yeah, they were whacking them with baseball bats, so it would be like an aluminum bat on that metal rope, you know, in old school when they had fucking telephone lines that were above ground metal bat to that and that was the laser for the guy.
One of my favorite sounds ever is like when um like those tension wires or whatever, like broken by like a dinosaur or something, like in Jurassic Park, like the where they go through like telephone wires and they use that sound.
That's real good.
My wife, I had to let her know that there's a thing called the Wilheim is a Wilheim, right?
The scream.
Yeah, I was like, No, like remember that scream.
You're gonna hear it.
Like every movie puts it in, it's like a joke.
It's like now it's like a thing you have to do.
Yep.
Oh, yeah.
So the Tom Waits thing was um what's it called?
So he uh he had to sue Doritos, I think it was or something, because they wanted I don't know why they wanted him so bad.
He was just he's just that guy, he's just so unique, you know.
Like, I'm not a huge Tom Waits fan, but it's actually put Pat Dixon who who showed me some of his some of his shit, and it's like this guy is like really good.
Yeah, yeah.
And he was in Diracula.
You remember the fucking Bronze Topers Dracula?
He was the guy in the jail cell that wanted Dracula to convert him so bad.
Really?
Like the kind of pathetic guy that was like, please make me a vampire.
That is fucking Tom Whites.
I had Mystery Man.
Remember Mystery Man with the spleen?
That I uh that I know it's a guy with the weapons, the non-lethal weapons specialist.
No way.
You know where he's fantastic in the the ballad of Buster Scrugs.
Oh, I didn't know he was in that.
Dude, he he it's it's just uh it's basically him and the entire thing.
Like there's a whole section, like there are a bunch of mini stories.
You know what it is, right?
Buster's got a lot of people.
I know I've seen several of them.
Was he a bank or something?
No, he was the the goal miner, the the panning for gold guy.
Yeah, what do they call those guys?
I forgot what they call him.
But uh you never seen that.
I've I I've seen several of those episodes, but I've not seen everyone in the whole series, but he was the panhandler or whatever.
Yeah, I forget what they call those guys, but um prop not property freaking vote uh damn it.
That's a word that I really want to use.
Yeah, let me have Chat GPT weights um Buster Scrugs.
It's dude, it's like the best, it's the second best one of the whole fucking thing.
Excuse my language, I curse a lot.
That's the one thing I have to peel back a little more.
But bro, so this is uh there's a scene from it.
So and he sings in it.
There's so long for me.
And it's like heartbreaking and exciting, and it's he does such a good job.
He just seems he just radiates genuineness, you know.
So basically, he didn't want his voice on any sort of prospector.
That is, yep.
Totally chat CPT for you.
Yeah, and it's like it's almost like ASMR that he's actually going through the process of of panning for gold and stuff like that, and digging for it and finding out where the deposits are.
And you're on this guy's side, you're like, I want this guy to find gold, and then just things start happening that you're like, oh no, and it's so good, and you have to watch it.
If you like Tom Waits, you have to watch it.
I only like Tom Waits, but I appreciate him a hundred percent.
I have to listen to more of his music, but him like the Charles Bukowski of music.
Really?
Yeah, like if you like like Bukowski is to poetry what Tom Waits is to music, in my opinion.
Yeah, I mean I I know he's done more than music now, but like his music is poetry.
I mean, like some of the if you listen to the bone the bone machine, it's basically the only record you need to listen to.
Obviously, he's got a million great ones.
That's the one that uh Pat Jermion to Yeah, but like I don't know, I don't know.
Be Earth died screaming as I laid dreaming.
Like, that's the cool shit.
Yeah, that's great, man.
What like I said through the end of the world?
What the fuck?
Right.
She did Tom Waits.
I was sleeping.
People thought that uh Heath Ledger's Joker was mildly inspired by an interview that Tom Waits did back in the day.
Ooh, I didn't know that, but it wouldn't make sense.
I heard that he has hearing problems.
He's got some sort of hearing problem, and uh his favorite sound is the sound of hissing bacon.
And that has inspired a lot of his sound.
Yeah, he's just uh it's just something he would have made up.
You could totally see him making up, but it could also be totally true about him, just hissing bacon on the pants.
A lot of his music is like that, really sizzly, like high-hat sounds like yeah, just very sizzly, trebly.
Was he into drugs or was he straight edge?
Because I feel like it can go either way with him.
Oh, I don't know.
Oh, it's that's chat GPT.
Did Tyra wait to do drugs?
He's been open about his past struggles with substance abuse.
Of course in Chat GPT throwing up the particularly in the 70s and 80s, Waits battled with alcohol and drug addiction.
However, he has been sober since the late 90s and had publicly discussed his recovery and the positive impact it's had on his life and creativity.
So apparently he did he drank a lot at one point.
That's the way to do it.
Nice.
Come be clean after all that time.
That's cool.
But I need a little bit like, If somebody, like if let's say if Jimi Hendrix was uh like clean, it would feel like he what he's doing is a sli a cinch phony for some reason.
I feel like the artist to that level, or poet like um a music artist specifically.
Lifestyles to match the art, right?
If they have depth to them, they should be struggling with some sort of like you know.
I saw an interesting Stevie Ray Vaughn interview where he basically said he said, I don't think that Jimmy Hendrix died choking on his vomit.
I think he had a little help.
I never heard the conspiracy that like he was killed, but that's so wild to me that Stevie Ray Von thought that he's like, I think he made too many people mad.
Wow, that's what he that's how he said.
I think he had a little help, and that's all I'm gonna say.
Of course, he was dead like a year later.
Whoa, helicopter accident.
Yeah.
So I but yeah, what is it with these guitar players just dying?
Randy Rhodes playing crash, Jimmy Hendrix vomit, BB Ray Vaughn helicopter crash.
Yeah, not to mention like fucking all of um uh um oh god, Leonard Skinner.
Oh, Leonard Skinner, yeah.
Yeah, what's up with these guys is dying all the time.
You know, they're rockers, they're living living on the edge.
But I mean, I don't you don't have to be, you know, uh, you don't have to abuse drugs or alcohol to be a good artist, but it does kind of feel like it's more genuine.
It's like wow, you're you're struggling with some stuff, and it's almost like it feels like uh basically what's happening is you're like increasing your chances of death, so it makes everything that you're saying more pertinent and more like dire.
But either way, so Tom Waits, ultra ultra genuine seeming guy, he didn't want to be involved in any commercial, but they he did a thing for a dog food commercial because he said he likes dogs, and he just put his voice on this dog food commercial, he was uh a little broke at the time, and then he kind of like resented it and um approached by like a Doritos commercial, and they said, Please don't uh no, I don't want to be a part of it, don't put my music in it very nicely.
And they went with an impersonator of his to do, and everybody thought it was him, like they were messaging him and emailing him or whatever, being like, Why are you in uh whatever commercial?
And he's so they had an impersonator that was so good that covered one of the songs.
No, I think it was an original deal.
Oh, wow.
So he sued him over it because it was his likeness that they used, and the guy um the guy who recorded it was a big Tom Waits fan, so he actually was a witness for Tom, and they became friends afterwards.
And yeah, it was cool.
But uh, it's like so weird that they wanted Tom so bad, and it was like it was like tomatoes and onions and salatro, yum.
It's like his kind of rappy, more like fast worded.
He did a lot of spoken word shit.
Why not do like what is what and like a bunch of different ad campaigns wanted Tom Waits, like it's so strange.
It seems a little like odd.
Same thing happened with the doors, though.
Like that Jim never wanted to sell light my fire to the door to whoever to any advertisers, and he kept blowing off meetings because he was getting so fucked up all the time that the band agreed without him to sell the rights of one of their songs, and then he shows up, he's like, What the fuck is our music doing on a commercial?
And they're like, You weren't here, Jim.
We both like Wow.
Yeah.
I don't think there's anything so bad.
It definitely um it definitely What if Gavin came out and did like a commercial for Kia Soul?
Like, I love the gas mileage.
If you really did let like if it was for beamer, like BMW, I feel like he'd be like all for it.
He'd be like, I like beamers.
So yes, please put me in a commercial.
But for I don't know, it's kind of endearing that the only one that Tom Waits ever did was just for dogs, like dog food.
It's funny.
That's really funny.
We gotta pull that up and find it.
Yeah, I mean from like the 90s too, so it's probably all wholesome and shit with a CPA like overglow on it, you know, some kid waking up in the morning with a dog down, down my dog likes food.
I don't know what yours.
It's like, yeah, my dog does like food.
Tommy there's one thing above all tempts and most the taste of meat.
That is why Purina makes butcher's blend.
Butcher's blend is the first dry dog food with three tempting needy tastes.
Oh, that's awesome.
So you already had it all pulled up.
That's pretty cool.
It's a cool commercial, and it actually fits the vibe in that way.
Doritos.
Now, this is the one that ripped him off.
Uh oh, you might Not be able to find it anymore because they might have pulled it.
Yeah, but it's it's in this document mini doc about the lawsuit.
It's called the Tom Waits Bizarre Lawsuit Against Frito Lay over a Doritos commercial.
Here we go.
It's pretty bad.
The new THIF COSE RIO DORES.
It's buffle, baffle, bravo, gung ho, tally ho, but never mellow.
It's a lot of tangy tomatoes, flavored peppers, poodles of onions and sass and spices.
But new sauce and real tomatoes.
Now that tongue tip is quite a stick.
It's kind of found and reason and put flex and complex in the city.
What's up?
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, there was there was a precedent sent by uh not Bet Midler, but some other uh I think it might be Bet Midler, but so basically they use her likeness, and uh the court ruled that she was famous enough for it her to be you know harmed by that.
But they were arguing so the in the boardroom they were like, I don't think he's famous, and he uh Bet Mittler famous, and they said that because that's just below the precedent.
They thought that Tom Waits wasn't well and well known enough to be harmed by these people thinking that he was in a Doritos commercial, just like insulting on top of the fact that they yeah, but that's the angle they had to take.
But he is famous enough.
He's in like so much shit that people don't even know he's in.
Like I said, Dracula, Mystery Man, he's in countless movies, TV shit, and not to mention the over 20 like studio albums he's made.
It's totally famous.
I gotta dig into it.
You see, the way that I find music mostly is like it it's playing at a place, and I want to like capture that memory.
And for somebody who loves I really do love music of all sorts too.
Like I was listening to some like Indian music the other day where it's just one of those um those drums, those tromba drums or whatever they're called.
Oh, like the it's like the big drum with the different tones across depending on where you hit it, like made out of metal.
Might be it might be um a tambo a tamba, something like that tabla, tabla drum.
It they play with their fingers, basically, usually like a fat guy in like a in like a river playing it.
Yep, and it goes boom, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's cool.
And then a guy on a flute, and it's like some of the most amazing music.
So anyway, I can appreciate all sorts of uh melodies, time signatures, all the oh anywhere from complex stuff to like super simple garbage music, like whatever, like garage band music.
But I don't seek out music very often, and I never really have.
I just kind of wait for it to like find me uh in a way, and in a lot of a lot of good stuff I've heard just through friends playing it or it playing on top of the radio or something.
But Tom Waits, that's another thing.
It's like until Pat Dixon showed me it.
I just refused to explore Tom Waits.
Um Pat takes it as a fucking treasure of a person.
He sure is, man.
He sure we gotta me and him, we gotta jam sometime and uh do some do some jam.
We used to we used to go to the uh compound media afterwards, uh, and just I would bring in my guitar, he brought an amp.
We're just he would play piano, I play guitar.
So have you heard of this new like Sigma trend?
I don't know if you're on like TikTok or Instagram or YouTube shorts at all, but there's like this whole trend called Sigma S-I-G-M-A, and I don't really understand what it comes from, but basically the motif is you know that famous part in American Psycho where um uh uh uh Christian Bale's characters like makes the all this music is music that has gone viral on like right wing Sigma video some point
and we know that you know finish going and so I put it in this playlist.
Do you want to get into like a music?
I recognize just throwing to my right wing extremist public playlist on Spotify listen through these 54 songs, see if there's any that you like.
This is the shit that I've been jamming lately.
I I already see the synth wave goose one, which I love yeah, hell yeah.
There's some good shit in here.
Some of it's like whatever, but this is all inspired by like just right wing sort of like Andrew Tate type videos.
Yeah, they have little status, you know, even if you don't agree with all the points, they have a doubt.
That's the coolest stuff.
I've been actually doing uh like sizzle reels for the daily episodes of G O M L and I'm using like nothing but that like uh after luck by Mr. Kitty but slowed like as if it wasn't Sigma already.
Um when the owl I will let you know.
Yep, it's cool shit.
That's a cool little genre, dude.
It's like a subgenre for the radical right winger.
You see, I got sizzle.
The first one I did, it might have been the best.
They're they're pretty short.
Let me see if I could play anyone here.
253.
No, 251.
I feel like would be good.
Yeah, this one's that one's pretty good.
25 246.
Let's try.
Yeah, there we go.
Okay, so I'll open it up.
Some might some of them might do a better job of representing the episode than others, but it's it's got that vibe.
I feel like if I was blind, I'd be able to tell an Asian.
Their heads are different sizes.
This looks like I took a bunch of dudes and dressed them up as women.
Oh, what are you building?
Where do the chickens go?
Oh boy!
Oh boy, oh boy!
Oh boy!
Me and my wife seem to get a lot more active enjoyment out of not having kids.
His laugh, his whole Jew thing.
I'm so Jewish.
Uh not really can't be that Jewish in Vancouver.
That's a new I just made up a new rule.
Get fired, get in trouble, be brave, and never stop fighting.
I love it, dude.
Good sizzle, and it's true.
You can't really be that Jewish in Vancouver.
That's it's it's a rule, bro.
Whether you like it or not, that is a fudging rule.
So I did let me see if I could play this to this one.
Is old.
I got another song.
I want I would like to show you something that has a little singing in there.
This one is, it's not emo, but it's guitar and voice and it's about emotions.
What do you think is what one day we end?
Oh, true.
One day we're listening to the next day of France.
It's sad, but it's very true.
Can't predict where it's gonna be, folks.
You're never gonna lose the end.
So it's a one week.
I have a vocal harmony pedal, which it's it's so TC Helicon.
Yes, yes, I do.
Really good.
I saw this one dude um at an open mic play with one, and I was like, I need that.
And I got a hundred dollars later, you got it.
This one was a little cheaper.
I think.
Unless I went the voice live, which is like the cheapest, but they have the voice live three, which is the one I really want because it actually listens to like your guitar keyboard input.
Yeah, this one says it does too, but you're right.
There are some artifacts here and there.
Uh, but you could always set the and it's a pain in the ass too, but set the key at the songs, and you do key changes, like good luck.
Um yeah, so this is my if you go to my nopeyup sound cloud or Ryan Catsu Rivera, either one.
That's my plug.
I'm gonna check it out, dude.
That's really cool.
I got a couple of so where can people find you and follow you and all that shit?
Um I don't know how to wrap up the episode, so I should get a link tree, but basically, um I'm most active on Twitter, and judge me by my likes, not by my tweets.
A lot of fish tank stuff on there.
Um, but yeah, so Ryan Catsy or Asian, yeah, Asian Pat Dixon, actually.
Uh you like badass in that picture.
Thanks, man.
That's when I had my fresh mullet.
Now it has grown out a little bit.
That is fresh.
Yeah, now you just look like you have a shaggy haircut.
I don't see the mullet part.
I know.
It's it's flat back here.
Yeah.
I gotta get it worked up because uh we're filming a movie slash it could be a show, could be cut into a show depending on the editing.
But hit me up when you're in Austin because my neighbor is a celebrity level hairstylist.
Really?
And he will cut your hair either on set or at his house right down in Austin, and it's not hyper expensive.
I think it's like 55 bucks or something.
It's the shit.
I mean, he'll do it perfect, so it'll look great the rest of the tour.
So if you decide you want to do that, hit me up in a month when you're here in uh Austin and I'll hook you up.
Nice.
That would be cool.
If we're still filming, I probably can't get that done, which that would suck.
But I'll ask the boys and I'll see if I could get it trimmed down to regular specs.
He can do the whole crew, man.
Everybody on uh everybody that's touring with you guys, he can do it too.
That's all he'd work out a package deal with you just to hang out.
Very cool.
Yeah, and I'll I'll let you know when we're down there.
Hopefully, if you want to uh type in the the Google message, I'll get your number afterwards.
Yeah, I'll show I'll shoot you my number on uh Twitter DM.
Noise.
Cool, bro.
This has been a good hang, dude.
Thanks for hopping on, dude.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
All right, man.
Well, hopefully I see you in a month.
Yes.
Excuse me.
And God bless.
Okay, love you.
Love you too.
Bye.
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