If you don't learn from history nothing will save you | The Conservative Immigrant & Chase Geiser | OAP #65
In his own words:
Hi, I am an immigrant from Eastern Europe (Romania) and have been living in the United States since 2011. I am passionate about US Politics and I decided to express my views in a public way. I am highly disappointed to see US Citizens in favor of Communism or any other derivate from Marxist ideology. So hopefully we can change some minds. Follow or subscribe as well at: https://www.facebook.com/conservativeimmigrant1 https://www.instagram.com/conservativeimmigrant1 https://twitter.com/ro_immigrant https://www.youtube.com/c/ConservativeImmigrant http://tiktok.com/@conservative.immigrant2 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/conservativeimmigrant
Hey, hey, hey, this is Chase Geyser, and this is one American Podcast.
And today we have conservative immigrant whose name I don't know on the podcast.
And you won't.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I'll just have to whip out the uh facial recognition technology to figure figure it out.
Yeah, exactly.
So what's going on, man?
Hey, not much, man.
Great, great to be here.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
Very great to talk with you.
Yeah, it's a pleasure.
So we were talking a little bit, obviously, before we went live, and uh you were telling me about how your TikTok kind of blew up uh to over 100,000 followers, basically within uh like 60 days.
So that's that's really cool.
And uh it was interesting to hear the strategy, but you know, I think it says something about your message um that it's resonating with people uh because I think there is this genuine fear among at least half the country, if not more than half the country, that this that Marxist ideology is um really taking over, and you you know, you come from an anti-communist position.
Um, and I'd love to hear more about uh why it is that you came to those beliefs, what it was like uh coming up in eastern uh uh Europe, if that had anything to do with it, I I'm just all ears to learn from you today.
Yeah, uh so yeah, thank you very much for having me again.
Yeah, I I think you're right.
Um I I think right now, based on what I'm seeing uh on social media, um starting with Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, you know, what what have you, all those platforms out there.
Uh I think there's a a high demand for conservative content.
Um I at least based on on my analysis of it, based on what I'm seeing.
I I think that people are urging for more conservative content, for more conservative speakers, for more conservative uh individuals that love America, that think that the constitution is great, uh the the the way it is, that are in favor of keeping America great and not letting it be you know go to crap, uh so I don't use foul language in your in your podcast.
You can if you want, it's okay.
Yeah, the the biggest thing for me is to if anybody's trying to to get into creating content online, um, don't be afraid to say that you don't know you you don't want to comment on a topic because you don't know, you're not educated enough.
For example, I don't really make content about Israel and Palestine, uh, especially a few months ago when it was a big deal.
I didn't make a lot of content on it because I'm not educated enough.
And to be fully educated on the matter would have taken too much time of my day with a full-time job and so on and so forth.
So I I think it's it's paramount for whoever's trying to get into conservative TikTok conservative content right now to start from the idea that you you have a duty, you have a responsibility to know what you're talking about and to base your opinion on actual evidence and actual facts.
Um, because we we keep criticizing the the left for just spewing, you know, their their so-called facts and their ideology and so on and so forth without backing it out, without being able to back to back it up.
So if we're gonna criticize them, we definitely have to hold ourselves accountable to a higher standard, right?
Um and kind of that that is my my idea of making online political content.
Um I it's you know, obviously opinion is opinion that that is fine, but when you bring facts, you need to make sure that you you you know you're you're based in facts.
Um so yeah, that that's that that's that those are my two cents for for anybody out there that would try to to get into into political content.
One of the things that I struggle with, um just sort of being on the forefront and the political conversation too.
And most of my uh audience following comes from my Twitter account.
I think I've got it like 36,000 followers there.
Started building this podcast about three, four months ago.
And um uh what I struggle with is you find that people, even if even if you have all the facts and even if you present them politely, people are very emotionally invested in what they already think or believe.
And myself included, it's on the right and the left.
Um, and so uh what I struggle with is trying to figure out how we can um bridge the gap between the like uh the emotional disparities.
How can we win the emotional argument?
Because communism traditionally has always leaned on a very basic emotional principle, like, hey, we should help the poor.
And like everybody kind of agrees that the poor should be helped.
That's a good thing to do.
But but uh you could you can charge at communism with every logical argument for why capitalism is better for the poor, why minimum wage actually hurts the poor, but emotionally it just doesn't seem to connect.
And do you have any thoughts on on how to win that emotional argument?
I don't think you can.
Yeah.
Um, unfortunately.
Um I tried for a long time, especially when I started making political content.
Um I tried for a long time to to reason to try to have that conversation because I still believe that the way to move forward is through conversation.
I don't believe in cancel culture, I don't believe in microaggressions, right?
I feel that we are gonna make more strides and bigger strides, the more open we are to allow ourselves to get offended, to allow ourselves to get frustrated, to allow ourselves to be put in a situation where we 100% disagree with a person across the room from us,
and we might get triggered, we might get frustrated, we we're gonna be 100% uncomfortable, but we need to do that in order to get the conversation going, right?
And I I feel that, and I tried that for so long, for months and months and months, to no result.
Uh, with adults.
I I don't really try to have conversations with you, you know, with people of 18, 19, 20, 21 years old old, um, especially as a 33-year-old.
No, not that I think that they don't have anything to bring to the to the plate, but I don't think they have school of life, and you, you know, I don't think they've been through life enough to create a critical opinion of the current system that we have in America.
Um, especially considering the brainwashing, so to speak, that happens on college campuses.
I I just posted a video a few days ago from um University of Massachusetts.
Um a guy trying to teach others how how Marxism works and and so on and so forth.
Uh, my biggest thing is that I think that we conservatives in general, we we try to be we we try to be okay, you know, we to get comfortable to let you do your thing as long as it doesn't affect us, and only to start speaking up and only to start getting involved and only to start organizing the moment the fire is burning our buttons.
Right, right.
Like what we just saw in Virginia.
Like it that's exactly where I was gonna go with it spot on, exactly.
Look what happened in Virginia, right?
They were fine, they were okay, nobody was speaking up, and then Loudoun County happened, school union happened, CRT happened, and and so on and so forth.
And we we won by a small margin over there, right?
But I think it's very important for for conservatives to understand that if they are talking with a leftist or a socialist, they are not gonna change their minds.
I think is the percentage of people that we can change their minds on with you know, reasoning and emotion and so on and so forth, I think is very insignificant.
And I think we really need to start shifting our dynamic and focus on the people that are in the middle, the the moderates, the ones that are you know somewhere in the center, and they they are they they are not quite sure if they are right-leaning or left leaning, or they feel that you know a small policy is not gonna affect them.
I think those are the people that we need to focus our attention to and our to put our energy in.
Because somebody that's far left, right?
You you're not gonna change their mind.
You you just won't be able to, just like somebody that's you know an a right-wing extremist.
Um you're not gonna change their mind, they they are in their own set tone and and so on and so forth.
And I think we really really need to start changing the dialogue and and try to reason with the these folks that that are you know in the middle, that that are on the fence that might might not be really brainwashed onto the left ideology or right ideology.
They they are somewhere in the middle.
Yeah, I think that I think that makes a lot of sense.
Um I'm really interested to see how how some of these things play out.
But I think I think you hit the nail on the head because I mean, I think a lot of adults are not interested in politics for the same reason that a lot of children are interested in politics, and it's because the the direct impact isn't immediately obvious unless you look into it.
Um and so yeah, something's gotta happen before people start getting pissed off, frankly.
And so that's interesting.
So you said you mentioned that you're 33.
So you came up after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Did you have any experience with I I'm fairly ignorant about no, I I haven't.
And uh when when communism ended in Romania, I was one year old, right?
I was born in 88.
They we we shot the dictator in 89.
Um, so I I can't speak from lived experiences, but everything that I'm talking about are literally from the word of the people, right?
Because that there's the there's the one thing that really matters is the word of the people.
And growing up in in Romania, I was there for 25 years, and you hear stories, man.
You you hear stories, and people are talking about it, and they they don't hold back.
They they don't hold back.
They nobody forgot in Romania how they were waiting for eggs.
Um actually, I was watching a documentary the other day.
Eggs weren't found in in stores, they were coming on the truck, so the truck would park next to the store, and people would make a line at 3 a.m., 4 a.m. to to get to get eggs, and when the eggs were good done, the the truck would just move away, you know, and the crowd would disperse and so on and so forth.
Meat was scarce, you know, it it eggs were scars, fish barely anything.
Um you know, um, no electricity, no heat, barely any gas for cars.
Hell, even cars weren't, you know, what weren't so so popular over there.
Um, and it w when you tell these, when I tell these two people, and we're having conversations, they you know what I keep hearing, that I don't know what I'm talking about, that that is no real communism, that communism was never achieved, that uh communism never worked because it it was uh it wasn't done right, and or communism was never worked because it was never tried in in America, you know.
So the the the typical BS or that America and the CIA influenced what happened in Romania, um just like you know, you hear the rhetoric with Cuba and so on and so forth.
Right.
Um the the one thing that if if you have any socialists or communists in your life, or I have them in in my in my life, the one thing about communism was that everybody, everybody had to work.
You had no option then to work.
If you weren't gonna go to work, you'd go to jail.
So if there is anybody on your life or on my life that is in favor of communism, I would like to see you in jail.
So and see how you would how you would deal with it because it wasn't pretty.
And people were imprisoned for the the little stuff.
I have uh I had an uncle, he he passed away since, but he he was a priest, and he was imprisoned because of his religious beliefs.
Right.
Hope you to the masses, sort of yeah, yeah.
So um, do you follow Jordan Peterson at all?
Yeah, love him.
So I I really like his um remarks on what you just said about the the pro-communist argument that uh communism has never been done properly before.
And what Jordan Peterson says, and of course I'm paraphrasing is what what people are really saying when they say that communism hasn't been done properly before is if I was in charge, I would do it right.
And he's like, if you think about that and realize that, then you can start to realize how dangerous the that that political thinking is, because it it's it hinges on like it's it's ironic almost because it hinges on a massive amount of like narcissism and ego among leaders, which is sort of what like it's sort of the opposite of what the whole political philosophy is intended to do.
It's supposed to sort of wipe out the individual and just have the people or the collective.
Um, but what you wind up having having is uh a few people that are very self self-interested and self-centered at the top.
And and Milton Friedman says said a similar thing, you know, uh he he did a lot of um uh great uh um QA sessions at colleges in the 70s and the 80s, and one one student asked him, you know, uh it what he thought about capitalism being based on greed, and did did he think that that was a problem given that greed is typically considered something that's you know, sort of uh immoral uh attitude, right?
And he said, listen, he's like you you think people are less greedy in Russia?
It's like greed is part of the human condition, everybody's greedy, and it's just a matter of which system can mitigate the damage that greed causes or maximize the benefits of greed, right?
So the reason that we can afford to buy cars in the United States is because Henry Ford wanted to make as much money as possible, so he came up with the assembly line, and that made cars way less expensive to produce, and therefore the prices of them went down, and everybody was able to buy one.
So one man's greed and capitalism can actually benefit the entire populace, right?
Absolutely, but in communism, you don't have that dynamic.
No, and you will never have it.
Like that there's the thing, you you would never have it.
And um, I bought the book, like I said, I bought a communist manifesto.
I plan to read it.
Um to see exactly what what they are talking about, because I'm up to the challenge.
You if they if their rhetoric is read some marks, you know, and get get educated, fine.
I'll I'll get educated, but don't forget that they might you know turn turn around and I might make make arguments against your your your beliefs, and um, like everything that it's it's in this book, man, and it was fairly cheap.
I think it was under five dollars on Amazon, you know, because capitalism and and all that the evil system.
Um so it's it's all good what Marx is talking about.
The problem is that the moment you insert the human element into it, somebody's always gonna want to take power, someone's always gonna have want to seize the means of production, someone's always gonna want to seize private property and so on and so forth.
And if you listen to socialists on social media, they they always talk about oh, we don't want to seize private property, you know, just the just the homes that are owned by banks or just uh the land that is owned by Bill Gates.
And it's it's always somebody that doesn't have much to amount in their lives that is trying to tell you what you should do with your earnings, with your money, with with everything.
And the the argument that I hear a lot that there's a Facebook page that I follow just for I find it very entertaining.
It's uh the 90 98 percent or something like that on Facebook, right?
And they had uh they had a post.
If do you guys think that what was it?
I'm trying to to remember to be as close to to how it was as possible.
Do you think that Alan Musk's labor is worth billions or so on and so forth?
And I commented that he he's not it's not his labor, it's his idea, it's his brain.
He's you know, he he his ability to to turn that company and to do to innovate.
He he's you know, one of the biggest entrepreneurs on on the planet, and you you know, that that mindset that he has and dedication and perseverance and all that, that's what what amounts to the money that he's making.
And secondly, who are you to tell somebody how much money he can make on at his own company?
Like, hold on one second.
And the biggest problem that we have, and this is due to, in my opinion, due to uh a failure in the school system, is that people don't cannot tell the difference between how much money you have in your wallet, how much money you have in your bank account and net worth, right?
It's not the same.
If you tell somebody that my net worth is, I don't know, let's say a million dollars, that does not mean that I have a million dollars cash in my bank account or my stock or my savings account or or so on and so forth, especially when we're talking about stocks and whatnot.
That million dollars can be two million tomorrow and a hundred thousand dollars the day after.
So I I feel that the education system is really failing a lot.
A lot of people in this country.
So yeah, I'm with you on that.
And I think another thing that people don't realize about the Elon Musk thing is that it's not just the labor and the ideas, but it's the fact that he harbors all the risk.
Like the vast majority of his wealth is in shares of those companies like Tesla and SpaceX.
And if those companies fail, he's gonna lose everything.
So he's inherited all the risk.
He's invested.
He's all in.
The chips are on the table.
He doesn't have them in his pocket, right?
And I just I think that people don't realize that there is a monetary value in the amount of risk you assume in cat in a capitalist society.
It's worth something.
It's a negotiating chip.
It's it's leverage.
And I think the other thing too that people miss out on in terms of the economics is that for some reason, people just seem to think that if if one person has a bunch of money, it means that it was taken from everybody else.
But as long as people are being productive, it's there's not a finite amount of monetary value that moves around.
If GDP goes up, the amount of wealth actually increases.
So the pie gets bigger.
So it's not like Elon Musk has too great a proportion of the pie that is every dollar in the in the world, right?
In a capitalist society, the size of the pie is not fixed.
It can grow as the economy is more productive, right?
And so I I think that we have this, we have this misconception just because of the of our nature as human beings that if if somebody has something, it's because someone else doesn't have it or someone else can't have it if that person has it.
And so it's almost like this tug of war when that's really not the right way to look at it.
Nobody's poor because Elon Musk is rich.
I I totally agree with you.
Um somebody asked me in my live who I'm talking to, and uh it's one American podcast on uh YouTube.
I was trying to comment it.
I don't know why I didn't say it out loud.
Uh somebody here um somebody commented, I I would like to address I agree with everything you said.
Just because somebody's getting rich, it doesn't mean that somebody else is getting poor.
This is a common misconception that we are seeing.
And somebody uh commented in my live that I would like to address it if you don't mind.
That's Alan Musk could uh could um uh sell his stock.
So I I don't think that the person that that made the comment truly understands how the market works.
In order to sell you sell your stock, you need to create a demand.
The more stock you try to sell, the more demand you create, and the more demand you create, the less of value the stock is gonna be worth.
So if Elon Musk would try to sell, I don't know, 500 million dollars in in Tesla stock tomorrow, the Tesla stock price would just plummet down.
So that is a common misconception.
He can't just sell it, you know, willy-nilly.
He wakes up one morning and he's like, let me just sell the the stock because he has a responsibility for his shareholders and and so on and so forth.
So you you can't just sell.
I I can't sell a hundred bucks in Tesla stock and nobody's gonna raise an eye, uh uh an eyebrow.
But if he would be to sell, I don't know, 500 million dollars or half a billion, uh, the the price would go down, it would go down.
Look, well, look what happened to the price of Bitcoin when they when they announced that they weren't gonna be using it anymore for uh Tesla purchases.
I mean, the tank when they made that announcement, right?
And that's the same exact principle.
And that's the problem with this unrealized capital gains tax that they're trying to pass.
So they're trying to pass this unrealized capital gains tax.
And I don't want to get too technical, I don't want to bore your audience, but um so unrealized capital gains tax is a tax on shares that you own that you haven't sold.
So in the United States, we pay realized capital gains tax.
So if I sell um stocks for 100,000, I have to pay income tax on that 100,000 when I when I when I earn when I get that money after the sale has happened.
On realized capital gains taxes, when someone comes in and analyzes the value of the shares that you own and charges you a tax regardless of whether you sell those shares, right?
So a lot of people would be in a position if they were taxed on an unrealized capital gains tax would have to sell shares in order to actually have the liquid funds to pay the tax, right?
And what the left is saying is that oh, it's not a big deal, it's not gonna impact anybody because we're only gonna do it to people who have a net worth of over a billion dollars or who have made a hundred million dollars three years in a row.
But the problem with that is the those those people are owners and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies.
And the vast majority of middle class Americans who are saving and investing for retirement, whether it's 401ks, IRA investments, whatever they're doing, have money in index 500 funds.
So they put their money in these investments, and those investments are diversified automatically uh across the top 500 most successful companies in the United States, right?
And if you create an environment in which every year at the end of the year, the wealthy, the wealthiest owners of those stocks have to do massive sell-offs in order to pay their tax bill, it's gonna vastly damage the value of all those stocks.
And so even though the middle class is not being taxed directly, they are gonna get fucked on their retirement because the value every year of their stocks is gonna plummet.
So this is it's a major, major problem.
I hope it I hope it doesn't pass.
It's is the same.
Uh it's it's the same with the argument that they are making when we had uh um when we bailed out the banks uh a few years ago, if you remember, um, they are like, yeah, if you can bail out the banks, you can bail out the people.
So one thing, like this is the the lack of reasoning that I don't get.
Like, if we wouldn't have bailed the banks, if the United States government would have not bailed the banks, first of all, the United States economy would have collapsed, followed by the economy of probably half the countries on the planet, right?
Is that what they want?
Like, is really that what they want to have a complete disaster on half of the globe to just ruin economy after the economy after economy and after economy.
And it's so easy to to buy in that vote because when you talk about, especially like you talked right now, right?
Somebody that has no idea what is going on or has no idea how the stock market works or financial institutions work, right?
They they might listen to you and be like, I didn't understand the goddamn thing you said.
I barely understand it.
I'm a little bit right-leaning.
And you know, you you get my vote.
It is the same with is the same with the left.
Yeah, you you know, they they make all these broad arguments, and somebody that's not educated, that's why I mentioned you know, college kids earlier, they they see an injustice and they are like, you know what?
The the Democrats and the left are are they they look like they want to fight this injustice.
So why don't I join them?
Rather than taking a second, taking a step back, analyze why that injustice happened, if it's really an injustice, or that person is in that situation because of their own actions, right?
Because regardless of what they say, actions have consequences.
And it definitely feels that the personal responsibility is something that we don't care about anymore.
We are not talking about it anymore.
And we we we are gonna advocate and make excuses for every every single crime in the book, because you know, the the injustices in the injustices in in the in the world.
The the same with you know, defunding the police and abolishing the police and the the video that I'm working on right now.
It's it's ludicrous.
It's complete, complete ludicrous.
You know, that's one that's that reminds me of something I kind of I thought of earlier today, because obviously after this, after this Virginia election that we just had, there have been a lot of accusations online from the left that it's because of white supremacy or racism that this happened.
Yeah, right.
And it occurred to me that you know, one of the interesting things about Marxism and racism that's similar, uh, despite the fact that Marxists always accuse people of being racist as if it's a bad thing, right?
Which it is, but they have something very important in common, Marxism and racism, and that is that traditionally speaking, genuine racists, people who believe that one race is either inferior or superior to another race.
And I'm talking about what the definition actually is of racism, not just stereotypes and bullshit like that.
So traditional racists blame their problems on another race.
So we saw this happen third reich, right?
That was exactly what the Nazis did.
They blame the loss of World War One on all the Jews in Germany, and that was the whole entire backbone.
Our problems are your fault, so we are going to eradicate you or punish you, right?
And the Marxists is the same thing, only it's not race related always.
It's class related, right?
So it's about groups blaming all of their suffering on the exploitation of another group, right?
So it was the proletariat versus the boot bourgeois and Marxism and in racism, It's one race versus another.
So ultimately, the only way to solve racism or Marxism.
They have the same solution.
And it's it goes back to personal accountability.
You have to have a culture of personal accountability where people are like, you know what?
Like maybe I'm not doing I'm not happy in my life because I'm not doing the things that I need to do in order to be happy.
Maybe if I got up an hour earlier every day and walked, you know, uh for three miles, it would put me in a better, you know, just little shit like that, all the way up to big stuff about careers and relationships.
And you know, obviously, if you're in like a if you're in like a uh uh an enslaved or an authoritarian society, there there are there are much more limits on what you can do.
So I'm not saying that it's never someone else's fault, or there's never environmental circumstances, but ultimately we have to reawaken a culture, and Americans were like, all right, despite whatever's going on, there are certainly things that I can do that I'm not doing.
And some of the outcomes that I'm experiencing that I'm unhappy with are because I'm not doing the things that are within my control.
And if we could somehow find a way to reawaken that, I think that we could eradicate racism and Marxism in one fell swoop.
That's a very interesting take.
I do agree with you.
Uh the this group identity politics that are coming from the left, as in you're being judged by you know your group identity.
If you're a white guy, you are being judged just like all the other white guys together.
Right.
Um, if if you're an immigrant like myself, you know, you're automatically oppressed.
Um if you're working hard and you're dedicated to your job, and I mean, I come from working from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.
I did that for four years.
Um, you you know, if you do that, you're being taken advantage of.
Um they they completely disregard that, you know, you can do that at your own accord because you want to save some money for uh I remember one time I took uh I took a job in a restaurant and I was working four hours three times a week.
I worked there for three months, and I literally funded a three-week vacation to Europe.
You know, and they they call that being oppressed.
Get out of here, get out of here.
Like you don't know what you're talking about.
So we we have this group group identity mentality where we look at somebody and we judge them based on their group affiliation rather than judging them based on their values, integrity, morals, actions, character, so on and and so forth.
And I think it's very detrimental to society, and I think we are we are saying a very, very bad precedent, especially to the youth and to to our youngsters, uh, that you know, look at CRT, right?
Uh and what is teaching kids in in schools, and you can have all these people that are like, oh, CRT is not being taught in school.
Well, uh a watered-down version of it definitely is uh look at the curriculum in schools, right?
So this group identity, I I agree with you.
The the faster if we could just move away from it, I I think we could we could do a lot of good.
The problem that I'm seeing is that you have even these politicians that are trying to make excuses for for uh for criminals, right?
Uh I will never for forget look at Maxine Waters and the unrest that she created uh before the trial of uh Derek Chauvin, the the cop that uh murdered George Freud.
Uh look at uh if I'm uh unless I'm a mistaken, uh Kamala Harris advocated for GoFundMe account for the rioters from the 2022, 2020, right?
So uh look at uh the squad.
Um Roshida Talib, uh Ilhan Omar, ALC, right?
Look at their narrative and look at uh look at how they are addressing uh crime and what what their stance on criminals is, right?
Uh so it's not gonna happen because we have these politicians that are are finding every excuse in the book for for criminals in America in in 2021 rather than taking a step back and realizing that people are evil, some people are evil, and uh, you know, they are gonna commit crime, but no, they are focusing on how can we prevent that person from going to jail or prison, even though they are a career criminal, right?
Because the system made them create a crime, the system made them sexually assault somebody, the system made them rob an eight-year-old at gunpoint, the system made them shoot somebody in you know, in Brooklyn, New York, or whatever the case is look at Chicago.
It's literally a domestic war zone.
The mayor is the is democrat, the the city council is democrat, the police chief is Democrat.
The entire elected officials in Chicago are Democrats.
It's literally a war zone over there.
I I was only in Chicago one time.
I'm never going back in my life.
Yeah, hey, Chicago.
I grew up a couple hours away from there.
And they blame it on racism, they blame it in systematic issues, they blame it on the system, they blame it on capitalism rather than blaming it on exactly who's creating the crime.
It's it's simple as that.
And that's why I I will I'm having a hard time, and that's why we cannot have unity with these kind of people.
Because on one side you have Democrats or conservative, uh, you have Republicans or conservatives that are that are in favor of you know, crime reform and crime bills and punishing evil, and on the other side, you have somebody that is literally advocating to let evil roam free on our feet,
and those two are not compatible, they are just like water and oil, and you will never be able to break bread, so to speak, with somebody that has such huge value differences um we with you, especially when it comes to crime and criminals.
And um there was um something on the video that I'm editing from the democratic socialist of America convention where she was talking about one.
Can I play this?
Do you mind?
No, do it.
You know we're just hanging out, man.
There's no rules on this podcast.
I don't know if the the sound is gonna be up, but we had uh a sexual assault happening with our community, and we go to the center and it's available here, and like you know, can you not call the police?
So basically, somebody got assaulted.
I don't remember exactly what town she lives in, we'll be in the video when I'll post it.
But somebody got sexually assaulted, and they tried to keep the police from doing their jobs from the the people that got sexually assaulted, they tried to prevent them from calling the police.
That is where we are.
She she said it in her own words.
We went to the center and we asked them not to call the police to see what we can do at the community level.
Somebody got sexually assaulted.
What do you mean what can you do at community level?
The person got sexually assaulted needs help, they need support, they need the counselor, they need help them.
Well, and you need to collect the evidence.
Yeah, and send the person that created the sec that did a sexual assault, send them to jail.
But no, we are we hate cops so bad that in our own community somebody got sexually assaulted, and we are advocating for them not to call the police.
That is where we are.
It's crazy.
That you know, you have somebody that was a victim of a sexual assault, and you advocate to take care of it at the local level or community level, so they don't call the cops.
Yeah, well, and I think I I think the crazy thing about this whole the whole police brutality thing, especially, there's a couple of interesting dynamics going on.
If you look at the numbers and and take what I say with a grain of salt, um uh so it might need to be double-checked, but I'm 99% sure that police brutality and police shootings of unarmed minorities was on like a 50-year decline when the George Floyd incident happened, right?
And so if you look at the data, you can see that the problem actually is getting solved.
It's never gonna be fast enough, but it there was drastic improvements made over 50 years, it wasn't getting worse.
But everybody seems to think that the problem is getting worse because the way the algorithms are set up on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, and the fact that we see every single instance of police brutality now because videos go viral in 1970.
If a cop beat the shit out of somebody, nobody knew about it except for that guy's family and maybe a lawyer, right?
But now you got millions and millions of people seeing it, and so there's like this heightened awareness about every micro incident.
So psychologically, it feels like the problem is out of control and getting worse, even though in reality the problem is much better.
This the issue is much better than it than it ever has been, right?
And so I I don't know how we bridge the gap between that disconnect, but that's something that that's just ingrained in our human nature because the way our brains are wired.
We really really add disproportionate weight To our personal experiences, despite what the actual reality might be, right?
I mean, that's why that's why we made the scientific method so that we could do experience experiments that would you know move us away from biases and stuff.
And and it's just I don't I don't know, we failed on so many levels, but the the whole police brutality thing is is scary to me because you know it the problem was not as big as it was amplified to be, and then the politicians on the left decided that it was okay to make communities much more dangerous in order for political gain.
They knew that if they defunded the cops, crime was gonna go up.
Because it's happened every single time any community has ever done that in history, right?
When when there are fewer cops, there are more crimes committed in an area, right?
And so there's there's just no disputing it, and they let it happen anyway because they knew that it was the politically expedient thing to do because the people were wrong in their understanding of the problem, right?
The people were wrong, they had an exaggerated notion of what the problem was, and and when the people are wrong, the politicians exploit that, and policy is enacted that's not based on reality that's based on a lie, and that's and I support democracy, but it but it's but you know, it's it's one of the best systems that's ever been created, but that is a weakness of it.
It is not a perfect uh system.
When the people are wrong, a society, a democratic society suffers.
No, I I totally agree with you.
It was definitely a move, uh, a play.
Um, and you you are correct.
Like, think about this.
Do you remember the shooting of um Micaiah Bryant, the one that was stabbing another girl and cops show up and shot her while she was holding a knife?
Like in the middle of the day, right?
And then she lunched at the cop.
Yeah, I remember that.
I saw that video.
Another shooting where cops shot somebody that was stabbing somebody else, only that person was white.
No media coverage, nothing.
But all of a sudden, they shot a black black person, full media coverage all over the country, right?
So media is definitely playing a game in this, they definitely have their agenda, they are definitely lying to us, or even if they are not lying to us, they are only showing us one side of the events without showing us the full side of the events.
And you you know, like it it's all it's it's all from it's all from politicians.
I mean, take a look one second here.
I'm sorry.
No, you don't need to apologize button.
Um in Chicago, uh 2021 is the year is not even over yet, right?
And it's worse than any year since 1996.
Sexual arts are up 25%, murder is up three percent, theft is up 16%, motor vehicle theft is up 5%.
And just compared to 2019, three years ago, two years ago, murder is up 57 compared to 2019.
And this comes from the Chicago Police.org website.
And they they still want to defund the police.
Like they they didn't learn the lesson.
In New York City, they defunded it by one billion, Seattle, 3.5 million, Mianapolis, 1.1 million, Portland, 16 million.
Uh Los Angeles was like 300 million or something outrageous.
Where?
Los Angeles was one of the biggest ones.
LA, Los Angeles, 150 million.
Okay.
In 2020, in Los Angeles, there were 38% more murders than in 2019.
And in 2021, this year so far, murders are up 28%.
Wow.
Murders, not theft.
No, you walk down the street and somebody pulls a knife and they are like, you know what?
Give me your wallet.
It's when you get fucking murdered.
And they they still they still blame the cops, they still want less cops instead of advocating for more cops.
Now, I I'm not saying that you know, in a community that has, I don't know, let's say 10,000 people, right?
And I'm not saying that they need heavy patrol unless they have high crime.
So I think we can all agree that there's some much needed police reform in America, sure, but not to the point where you let your most vulnerable people in harm's way to fit your misguided imaginary utopia.
That that is the problem that that I'm having.
Well, and even if you if you look At instances of like historical wars that have occurred between nations, and when one nation surrenders to another at the end of a war, it's not like the winning nation forces all of the military leaders of their opponent to retire, they still retain command because you can't have a situation in which you have all the enemy troops just kind of like with no leaders wandering around, there's no there's no system, right?
So the nation surrenders in a war.
They even they even still have the structure and their infrastructure and their systems in place to whatever put take the troops back or make sure that they're getting the the supplies through and they're removing the munitions or whatever happens at the end of a war, right?
And so it's just funny to me that even at the end of a war when two nations have been fighting to the death in the bloodiest instances of history, the the the there's still the wisdom to allow the enemy to maintain some sort of control, at least temporarily over their troops.
But when one cop makes a mistake that goes viral, all of a sudden, politically in the United States, we just decide to fire all the cops, like that's that's even even if the even if the whole system was corrupt, an immediate abolishment of something that we're leaning so heavily on like that is so reckless.
It's like letting the banks fail.
Only it's you know, it's law and order.
Yeah, correct.
And you you know, I don't know if if these people are realizing let's say they abolish the entire police, right?
What do you think is gonna happen without cops the next time they try to burn down a 7-Eleven or they try to riot or they try to burn down a suburb of a city?
Yeah, without what do they think it's uh what do they think is actually gonna happen?
Because I would probably lock my family in the basement, right?
To keep them safe, but there are a lot of stupid motherfuckers out there that just itch that are just itching to to to be violent, that are just itching to to give them a taste of their own medicine, right?
So without cops, what do they think they're gonna happen?
Is gonna happen because I don't know if you've watched some videos on social media, but Antifa is not really organized when it comes to you know tactics and defending themselves and and so on and so forth.
They they really aren't.
Like there was a video online the other day.
I I was driving, I couldn't save it.
I wish I would have saved it.
It was a guy from Antifa, uh, Portland, I think, yeah, Portland.
And there was a video about you know creating targets and and so on and so forth.
And I was laughing my entire time, listening to him, just the shit that he was, you know, dabitating out of his head.
And I'm like, oh my god, like really we think you stand a chance.
We with that kind of crap.
Come on, right, right.
Well, and I think that you know you make a really good point, and you can all you have to do is look at what happened in Kenosha with Kyle Rittenhouse, right?
Regardless of what you think about Kyle Rittenhouse and whether he did the right thing or not, it's is irrelevant.
If there were enough cops and they were arresting people who were setting fires, no one would have been shot by Kyle Rittenhouse that night, whether it was self-defense or not, right?
Because Kyle Rittenhouse was there volunteering with a fire extinguisher, and he was running from dumpster to dumpster, putting out fires that were being lit by protesters because there were no firemen and there were no cops, and then the mob got angry at him for interfering, and that's when it became violent, right?
And so that's what happens.
And so if the mob wants to just destroy, and there are some people that just want to do that.
I mean, the the Joker is from Batman is famous for that, especially in uh this the second one uh with Ledger.
That was the whole theme, right?
Some people just want to see the world burn, right?
That that was that that was his whole shtick, and I think that's true, but uh yeah, it's it for those in the middle, like we were talking about at the beginning of our conversation who who don't want the world to just burn.
I hope that they realize that's what's gonna happen if you if you if you just pull the rug out of it.
I I love your optimism.
I I'm a little bit more on the pessimist side.
Um, I I think that there are some democrats out there that are that acknowledge and they are they realize that we need cops in society, right?
But my My thing is this, like considering what happened in Virginia, let them keep fucking up.
Because there's no other way for them to create a lot of conservatives and Republicans than to keep fucking up and fucking up and fucking up even more.
And then it's just gonna happen what happened in Virginia.
And I just want to make a comment for my followers uh regarding Virginia.
Yeah, we are happy.
We won in Virginia, we have a Republican governor, it's all good.
But don't celebrate too much.
This is just half of the battle.
Yeah, because he won by a small margin, 50 point something percent compared to what was it, 48 point something percent?
It was close.
It was a very close, which tells us, hey Brooke, which tells us that even though we won, we won by a small margin, and there are still a lot of people in Virginia that voted blue, even considering everything that is going on in that state, or everything that went on in that state, right?
So don't celebrate too much.
This is the time where we hold our elected officials to a higher standard.
This is the time where Republicans have to step in and actually do shit and get shit done and lead by examples and show some goddamn leadership, because the amount of people in this country that are obsessively idolizing politicians on both sides of the aisle, it's astonishing.
And that is part of the reason why some shit doesn't get done, because no matter what they do, no matter what they say, they just idolize it.
And I can give you several examples from Trump and the shit that he said and the stuff that he done, and people were just like chanting for him rather than like, bro.
Right.
Shut fuck up, right?
Right.
So we the we if this is not a wake-up call from conservatives and republicans that hey, we won Virginia, but let's take this moment and seize the moment and do something, you know, and lead by example, show some leadership and show what we can get done.
We we might not win Virginia again, because the last time Virginia was Republican was like 12 years ago, unless I'm yeah, 12 years ago, right?
So it's been a little bit more than a decade since Virginia was red.
And like we we won now, but the next time we we can lose if we don't do something.
Sure.
So did you ever see um or did you ever read the book The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Green.
Have you heard of that book?
It's an awesome book.
I highly recommend it.
It's it's long.
Um you don't have to read it page by page.
You can it's you can use it as a reference book.
Like do every other page, yeah, exactly.
Right.
And um uh anyway, one of the one of the 48 laws of power that Robert Green writes about is um that you must crush your enemy entirely, right?
So if you don't totally defeat an enemy, whether it's politically, whether it's in business, whether it's in a war, if you don't totally defeat them, then they will always come back, right?
And we see this with like um with uh the the classic story of uh Troy and the Iliad that Homer wrote the famous Greek poem, right?
Uh with the Trojan horse, right?
The the the Trojans assumed victory prematurely, they didn't crush their enemy entirely, and they thought they won and they celebrated, and as they were celebrating, they were totally infiltrated by a small number of troops and destroyed.
And the moral that story is don't consider yourself victorious until you're absolutely certain until the enemy's absolutely vanquished.
And so, yeah, I agree with you.
We just won this battle in Virginia, but there are 49 other states, there are major elections coming up in 2022.
2024 is gonna be insane for so many different reasons, right?
This is the beginning.
Me too.
I'm free, I'm freaked out.
They wait for it, they are gonna unleash hell.
I don't know what's gonna happen.
I I really hope it's not gonna be something major, but i if 2020 was the way it was, just wait for the 2023 because they are scared.
And if you watch CNN at all, I don't really watch CNN because it's I I can't deal with all the stupidity.
Right.
But if you if you watch them and their rhetoric, and you take a second to dissect what they are saying and their tone and how they are approaching things, they they are they they are they are a little afraid.
And you know, I the the moderate democrats are gonna be like whatever, you know, we're gonna do the best we can to win and so on and so forth.
But you know, the the extremists like the squad and ALC and Rashida Talib and you know Ilhan and the and other ones, they are not.
They they are not, and they are gonna fuck it all up for everybody.
Yeah, so it's gonna be really paramount for conservatives and republicans to to keep the composure, you know, to to keep the emotion out of it, to use reasoning and to keep going and to speak up, man, to speak up, like that's one thing that if I could say something to anybody that's on the on the right, is like you need to speak up.
I don't care if it's like if it's your school meeting, if it's something we in your town, you know, you need you need you need to speak up.
You really need to speak up.
The the time to be silenced is long over.
Because I promise you something.
If you work in a corporate setting and you go to a black lives matter protest or riot, actually, you don't have a big chance of losing your job.
But if you are, I don't know, you you are very involved in in uh in politics as a conservativist or republican, at some point your job is gonna be in danger.
I promise you that.
Yeah, well, and one of the things that scares me the most about um 2024, uh, based on what you you just said too.
And I'm someone who is a Trump supporter, I'm not like a Trump worshipper.
I'm gonna I'm probably gonna vote for him.
I'll wait, I'll I'll you know, give the other candidates a shot uh and be reasonable, but I'm probably gonna vote for him.
Same here.
And uh, but what scares me is the the left, including the corporate media and the politicians and the FBI and every official, after January 6th, they branded every single Trump supporter as a domestic terrorist,
explicitly used that term, they've arrested them, they've used the term insurrection to describe what happened on January 6th, but they never used the word insurrection to describe what happened in Kabul in September, which was literally an insurrection, an actual insurrection, or a government failed.
And how many of them are being charged with it with insurrection?
None of them, right?
And so, but now you have a situation where half the country thinks the other half of the country is a terrorist organization, right?
Or basically a domestic terrorist.
And so if Trump wins in 2024, that means half the country is going to believe that the insurrectionists have overthrown the government.
That's like a recipe for violence, right?
Yep, absolutely.
I I absolutely agree with you on that one.
So I'm concerned about that.
And it's if we look at it, I I tried to look at it from like a pattern, like a behavioral pattern, right?
Look what happened in Loudoun County, Virginia, where uh that that guy, his daughter was sexually assaulted at school in a gender-neutral bathroom, if I'm not mistaken, don't quote me on it.
But she was actually assaulted at school.
And the the school called the cops on him when he went to to inquire what happened, uh, only later to find out that they they found evidence of sexual assault, they moved that kid from that school to another school where he sexually assaulted somebody again, right?
And everything was buried, right, by the school system, and they didn't report it to the state.
So that there was the the second fuck up, and not only that, but they got the cop the the guy arrested.
I there were like three or four cops that were called to arrest the guy, and he he said, if your daughter would be sexually assaulted at school and the school wouldn't do anything about it, would try to cover it.
What would you do?
You know, and after that, the the school union sent a letter to the attorney general, and the attorney general um reached out to the DOJ, and then the the school union redacted retracted the the letter, and the attorney general continued the prosecution.
Yes, too late.
And so on and so forth, for the simple reason that he holds the school accountable for covering up the sexual abuse that happened to his daughter.
Yep.
And these are the kind of people that the left wants to don't want them to go to jail.
Yep.
Yep.
And that's exactly what we've been talking about.
When the system fails to provide justice, people, for better or for worse, often for worse, take matters into their own hands.
I mean, this is this is how the mafia got power in the United States.
You know, there was a lot of racism against Italians when they came over a hundred years ago, and the the law enforcement wouldn't protect their communities, they were getting no sort of justice, and the mafia form, the families came by and they offered protection to these businesses in exchange for basically attacks.
And that's how organized crime came about.
So if justice is not provided by the system, justice will be provided somewhere else, and those sources are often very dangerous sources.
Yeah, I I told I totally agree with you.
And imagine this: imagine you pay taxes, right?
You you send your kid to school, you your school gets sexually assaulted, you you try to hold the school accountable and to speak up because you pay taxes, and you you get on an FBI watch list, or you get a visit from DOJ or or anything like that, when literally you and your family are the victim, all because some woke school principal or school board member or or something just hits your guts because you spoke against them.
Yeah, and people, that's what I'm saying, and we still considering all that happened, we still barely won in Virginia.
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, I agree.
And it's a huge celebration moment right now.
I agree.
I think you just you just made an awesome point by by framing it like that.
So obviously, because the story happened over the over the over a period of weeks, it was reported differently by different sources.
So if you weren't paying attention, it's really hard for it to click like that.
But that's exactly what happened.
There was a victim who was taken advantage of, who saw justice, and then was prosecuted because they're in demonized.
Right.
Right.
And and here's the thing: you know, if you're a Democrat or a Republican, no big deal.
That people disagree about stuff like how high should taxes be, uh, how much should the government provide XYZ?
People it the old Democrat versus Republican debates were reasonable debates that reasonable people could disagree about different things, right?
But regardless of what you think about the traditional left versus right policies, everybody should be pissed off at what happened to that dude when he got when he's getting prosecuted by the state for rate for calling the state out for not fulfilling its duty, which is to establish justice, to provide justice in these instances, right?
And so I don't, you know, if you're a democrat and you think that everybody should go to public school and college should be free, whatever.
I disagree.
That's not a big deal, though.
That's not like good versus evil shit.
But what we're seeing here is like evil statism to the core, and all Americans should rally behind that because we have a lot of common road on the left and right that we can go down to correct these issues before our differences even become relevant.
Yeah, I I totally I totally agree with that.
And people still voted, and that that is the problem.
Like the where's the uproar on that?
Imagine if that if those parents would have burned down a building or rioted or protested in the middle of the city, right?
They they didn't, just one parent spoke up against the school, and he was automatically labeled a domestic terrorist by the left, by the attorney general, by the DOJ, by uh the entire left-wing media, and they're they're they are criticizing us and the conservatives are in the wrong, and so on and so forth.
Get out of here, get out of here.
I agree, man.
So it's a complete complete disaster, and every single one of them should have been fired.
Damn right.
Every single one of them should have been fired without the possibility of ever, ever, ever working in a school system or anything to do with education or teaching or town development or anything like that.
Yeah, well, and the other the other problem this creates too is when when the Government and the media consistently lie about something or a number of things for so long when everything is a lie all the time, and and then something occurs, and it's incredibly important for the truth to be known, right?
So let's I'm gonna use the vaccines, right?
I'm not gonna I don't want to talk about whether or not the vaccines are safe or legit or or that that's not my point here.
But what I do want to say is if the vaccines are actually safe, hypothetically, if they are safe and saving lives, it is a damn shame that our government and our media entities have lied so much the last five years, because that's the reason people question the election results, and that's the reason people question this the vaccine stuff.
It's not because of crazy right-wing conspiracy theories, it's because these motherfuckers lied about everything else.
So if they're telling the truth, they might be.
I don't know.
I'm not, I'm I don't care, whatever.
I'm not trying to like make a case for vaccines or anything or against, but it if they're telling the truth about how important the vaccines are, how the fuck are they supposed to expect anyone to believe anything that they've said?
Yeah, so I I thought let me let me touch.
Can I elaborate on a little bit?
Sure, do what say whatever you want, man.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, freedom of speech, right?
God bless America.
Um, let's talk about ivormectin.
I hope I said it right.
Yeah, right.
And the entire bullshit narrative from the left regarding ivermectin.
The horse dewormer allegations.
Yeah, so you I don't know if you know this.
I have Lyme disease, right?
I got it two years ago.
It's been since yeah, it's fine.
Thank you.
Do you take hydroxy for that?
What do you take hydroxychorquin for that?
Is that one of the treatments?
I didn't, no, I I didn't.
Um, so when you get beat by a tick, depending on what area of the globe you are, you you can get Lyme disease and also other bullshit infections, right?
One of the other that you can get is called um, I hope I'm pronouncing it right.
It's Babesiosis or Babesia, okay, which is like um like a parasitic type, you know, illness uh that that you get from from tick bites.
The number one treatment, effective treatment all over the world for that thing is ivermectin.
Right, it's an antiparasitic drug, it's a miracle.
Successfully working as the primarily primary treatment from Babesia uh for years now, nothing else.
That was the number one thing, and they the they they shifted it around so bad that in the Lyme community, people were complaining that they would go to the pharmacy to get their prescription filled out for their treatment for this nasty shit,
and the pharmacy would not fill their prescription because of the narrative regarding ivermectin and coronavirus and so on and so forth, and they would be like, Well, I have this from a tig bite, and you know, I'm being under this treatment for I don't know, two months,
three months, because everything that comes from ticks, unless you treat it in the beginning, you can treat it for years after that, and they they couldn't get their prescription because of shortages, or even when pharmacies had it, the the pharmacist would deny filling the prescription because of all this bullshit around, and yeah, the the the same with hydro how how is it called hydroxy chloroquine?
It's a little tricky hydroxychloroquine, right?
Is has been prescribed for years for patients with chronic Lyme disease due to arthritis and stuff like that, because it's an anti-inflammatory and it helps with the symptoms from arthritis, you know, knee uh pain in the knees, joints, joint swelling, and so on and so forth.
And even those people in the Lyme community on forums and whatnot were complaining about going through the same shit because pharmacies either didn't have it or they were saying they don't have it, or pharmacists refused to fill the prescription.
Which, if you think about it, do you think those people are gonna vote democrat at the next election?
I promise you, not a single one of them.
And I asked this question on a bunch of forums, and I asked them point blank, would you still vote democrat, considering you are suffering, literally suffering right now, because you cannot get your prescription field because of this political bullsharrative, And every single one of them said that they would not.
And there were some people out there, they were like, I voted Democrat my entire life.
By right now, I am in misery.
I'm on a medical leave of absence because I cannot physically go to work because I'm in so much pain because I cannot find a pharmacy to fill my prescription.
And they said even themselves, I will not vote a Democrat in the next election.
So I guess thank you.
Thank you, woke democrats for fucking it up for yourselves and helping us.
It's simple as that.
So I I learned this first hand uh on on these online forums for for Lyme disease and coinfections and so on and so forth.
And people were saying, look, I was getting this for years now, for years, for months, uh, some even for years, and all of a sudden they cannot get their prescriptions filled because of this political narrative that that was happening in America.
And I think it's I think it's shitty when you when a politician or the media is is trying to twist the narrative with horse de warmer and and shit like that.
Look, look at the look at the coverage that they got to that they gave to Joe Rogan, and he was prescribed Ivor Mackin by his doctor, and they they made it look like fuck.
What is he doing?
He's just taking the warm up.
Like, hold on one second.
Yep, that's why these these journalists they're it's enemy of the people shit when they do that.
They do that because they know that these are hot keywords.
I remember them, Joe Rogan, and they know that it's a sensational story, and if they publish it, even though it's dishonest, they'll generate more clicks, and if they generate more clicks, they get paid more by advertisers on their platforms, right?
And so they basically just sell out for for click for for click volume.
I mean, it's and and it's really really harming the country.
I mean, basically, every misconception that people have in the United States today is either because our culture, our society has failed to tell them the truth, or it has intentionally told them a lie.
Correct.
Correct.
I I totally totally agree with you.
So, anyway, on that note, uh, where can people find you?
Uh, conservative immigrants on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube.
We we're still developing that, but making YouTube videos in depth and whatnot, it it's it's time consuming.
And when you have a full-time job, um you know it's it's a low, it's a l, it's a little hard to to to find a type the time.
What I would love to do is like if if I my dream would be to do this kind of conversations, just talks, man, just kind of podcast setting where you just talk with people on various political issues and and so on and so forth.
So that's the direction that I'm heading in, hopefully.
But the the majority of my content is on it's on TikTok.
