If you don't learn from history nothing will save you | The Conservative Immigrant & Chase Geiser | OAP #65
In his own words:
Hi, I am an immigrant from Eastern Europe (Romania) and have been living in the United States since 2011. I am passionate about US Politics and I decided to express my views in a public way. I am highly disappointed to see US Citizens in favor of Communism or any other derivate from Marxist ideology. So hopefully we can change some minds. Follow or subscribe as well at: https://www.facebook.com/conservativeimmigrant1 https://www.instagram.com/conservativeimmigrant1 https://twitter.com/ro_immigrant https://www.youtube.com/c/ConservativeImmigrant http://tiktok.com/@conservative.immigrant2 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/conservativeimmigrant
Hey, hey, hey, this is Chase Geiser, and this is One American Podcast.
And today we have conservative immigrant whose name I don't know on the podcast.
And you won't.
That's fine.
That's fine.
I'll just have to whip out the facial recognition technology to figure it out.
Exactly.
So what's going on, man?
Hey, not much, man.
Great to be here.
Thank you for having me.
I appreciate it.
Very great to talk with you.
Yeah, it's a pleasure.
So we were talking a little bit, obviously, before we went live, and you were telling me about how your TikTok kind of blew up to over 100,000 followers basically within like 60 days.
So that's really cool.
And it was interesting to hear the strategy, but I think it says something about your message that it's resonating with people because I think there is this genuine fear among at least half the country, if not more than half the country, that Marxist ideology is really taking over.
And you come from an anti-communist position.
And I'd love to hear more about why it is that you came to those beliefs, what it was like coming up in Eastern Europe, if that had anything to do with it.
I'm just all ears to learn from you today.
Yeah.
So yeah, thank you very much for having me again.
Yeah, I think you're right.
I think right now, based on what I'm seeing on social media, starting with Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, you know, what have you, all these platforms out there, I think there's a high demand for conservative content.
At least based on my analysis of it, based on what I'm seeing, I think that people are urging for more conservative content, for more conservative speakers, for more conservative individuals that love America, that think that the Constitution is great the way it is, that are in favor of keeping America great and not letting it go to crap.
So I don't use foul language in your podcast.
You can if you want.
It's okay.
Yeah, the biggest thing for me is if anybody's trying to get into creating content online, don't be afraid to say that you don't know, you don't want to comment on a topic because you don't know, you're not educated enough.
For example, I don't really make content about Israel and Palestine, especially a few months ago when it was a big deal.
I didn't make a lot of content on it because I'm not educated enough.
And to be fully educated on the matter would have taken too much time of my day with a full-time job and so on and so forth.
So I think it's paramount for whoever's trying to get into conservative TikTok, conservative content right now, to start from the idea that you have a duty, you have a responsibility to know what you're talking about and to base your opinion on actual evidence and actual facts.
Because we keep criticizing the left for just spewing their so-called facts and their ideology and so on and so forth without backing it out, without being able to back it up.
So if we're going to criticize them, we definitely have to hold ourselves accountable to a higher standard.
Right.
And kind of that is my idea of making online political content.
It's, you know, obviously opinion is opinion.
That is fine.
But when you bring facts, you need to make sure that you're based in facts.
So yeah, those are my two cents for anybody out there that would try to get into political content.
One of the things that I struggle with, just sort of being on the forefront in the political conversation too, and most of my audience following comes from my Twitter account.
I think I've got like 36,000 followers there.
Started building this podcast about three, four months ago.
And what I struggle with is you find that people, even if you have all the facts and even if you present them politely, people are very emotionally invested in what they already think or believe.
And myself included, it's on the right and the left.
And so what I struggle with is trying to figure out how we can bridge the gap between the emotional disparities.
How can we win the emotional argument?
Because communism traditionally has always leaned on a very basic emotional principle like, hey, we should help the poor.
And everybody kind of agrees that the poor should be helped.
That's a good thing to do.
But you can charge at communism with every logical argument for why capitalism is better for the poor, why minimum wage actually hurts the poor.
But emotionally, it just doesn't seem to connect.
And do you have any thoughts on how to win that emotional argument?
I don't think you can.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, I tried for a long time, especially when I started making political content.
I tried for a long time to reason, to try to have that conversation because I still believe that the way to move forward is through conversation.
I don't believe in cancel culture.
I don't believe in microaggressions, right?
I feel that we are going to make more strides and bigger strides, the more open we are to allow ourselves to get offended, to allow ourselves to get frustrated, to allow ourselves to be put in a situation where we 100% disagree with a person across the room from us.
And we might get triggered, we might get frustrated, we're going to be 100% uncomfortable, but we need to do that in order to get the conversation going, right?
And I feel that, and I tried that for so long, for months and months and months, to no result with adults.
I don't really try to have conversations with people of 18, 19, 20, 21 years old, especially as a 33-year-old.
Not that I think that they don't have anything to bring to the plate, but I don't think they have school of life.
And I don't think they've been through life enough to create a critical opinion of the current system that we have in America, especially considering the brainwashing, so to speak, that happens on college campuses.
I just posted a video a few days ago from the University of Massachusetts, a guy trying to teach others how Marxism works and so on and so forth.
My biggest thing is that I think that we, conservatives in general, we try to be okay, you know, to get comfortable, to let you do your thing as long as it doesn't affect us.
And only to start speaking up and only to start getting involved and only to start organizing the moment the fire is burning our butt.
So to speak, right?
Like what we just saw in Virginia.
Like that's exactly where I was going to go with it, spot on.
Exactly.
Look what happened in Virginia, right?
They were fine.
They were okay.
Nobody was speaking up.
And then Loudoun County happened.
School union happened.
CRT happened and so on and so forth.
And we won by a small margin over there, right?
But I think it's very important for conservatives to understand that if they are talking with a leftist or a socialist, they are not going to change their minds.
I think it's the percentage of people that we can change their minds on with reasoning and emotion and so on and so forth, I think is very insignificant.
And I think we really need to start shifting our dynamic and focus on the people that are in the middle, the moderates, the ones that are somewhere in the center and they are not quite sure if they are right-leaning or left-leaning, or they feel that a small policy is not going to affect them.
I think those are the people that we need to focus our attention to and to put our energy in.
Because somebody that's far left, right, you're not going to change their mind.
You just won't be able to.
Just like somebody that's a right-wing extremist, you're not going to change their mind.
They are in their own set tone and so on and so forth.
And I think we really, really need to start changing the dialogue and try to reason with these folks that are in the middle, that are on the fence, that might not be really brainwashed onto the left ideology or right ideology.
They are somewhere in the middle.
Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense.
I'm really interested to see how some of these things play out.
But I think you can hit the nail on the head because, I mean, I think a lot of adults are not interested in politics for the same reason that a lot of children aren't interested in politics.
And it's because the direct impact isn't immediately obvious unless you look into it.
And so, so, yeah, something's got to happen before people start getting pissed off, frankly.
And so that's interesting.
So you said, you mentioned that you're 33.
So you came up after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
Did you have any experience with, I'm fairly ignorant about no, I haven't.
And when communism ended in Romania, I was one year old, right?
I was born in 88.
We shot the dictator in 89.
So I can't speak from lived experiences, but everything that I'm talking about are literally from the word of the people, right?
Because that's the one thing that really matters is the word of the people.
And growing up in Romania, I was there for 25 years and you hear stories, man.
You hear stories and people are talking about it and they don't hold back.
They don't hold back.
Nobody forgot in Romania how they were waiting for eggs.
Actually, I was watching a documentary the other day.
Eggs weren't found in stores.
They were coming on the truck.
So the truck would park next to the store and people would make a line at 3 a.m., 4 a.m. to get eggs.
And when the eggs were done, the truck would just move away, you know, and the crowd would disperse and so on and so forth.
Meat was cars.
You know, eggs were scars.
Fish, barely anything.
You know, no electricity, no heat, barely any gas for cars.
Hell, even cars weren't so popular over there.
And when you tell this, when I tell this to people and we having conversations, you know what I keep hearing?
That I don't know what I'm talking about, that that is no real communism, that communism was never achieved, that communism never worked because it wasn't done right, and or communism was never worked because it was never tried in America.
So the typical BS or that America and the CIA influenced what happened in Romania.
Just like, you know, you hear the rhetoric with Cuba and so on and so forth.
The one thing that if you have any socialists or communists in your life, or I have them in my life, the one thing about communism was that everybody, everybody had to work.
You had no option than to work.
If you weren't going to go to work, you'd go to jail.
So if there is anybody on your life or on my life that is in favor of communism, I would like to see you in jail.
So how you would deal with it because it wasn't pretty.
And people were imprisoned for the little stuff.
I had an uncle.
He passed away since, but he was a priest and he was imprisoned because of his religious beliefs.
Right.
Hope you did in the masses.
Sort of.
Yeah.
Yep.
So do you follow Jordan Peterson at all?
Yeah.
Love him.
So I really like his remarks on what you just said about the pro-communist argument that communism has never been done properly before.
And what Jordan Peterson says, and of course I'm paraphrasing is what people are really saying when they say that communism hasn't been done properly before is if I was in charge, I would do it right.
And he's like, if you think about that and realize that, then you can start to realize how dangerous that political thinking is because it hinges on like, it's ironic almost because it hinges on a massive amount of like narcissism and ego among leaders, which is sort of what, like, it's sort of the opposite of what the whole political philosophy is intended to do.
It's supposed to sort of wipe out the individual and just have the people or the collective.
But what you wind up having is a few people that are very self-interested and self-centered at the top.
And Milton Friedman said a similar thing.
You know, he did a lot of great QA sessions at colleges in the 70s and the 80s.
And one student asked him, you know, what he thought about capitalism being based on greed.
And did he think that that was a problem, given that greed is typically considered something that's sort of immoral attitude, right?
And he said, listen, he's like, you think people are less greedy in Russia?
It's like, greed is part of the human condition.
Everybody's greedy.
And it's just a matter of which system can mitigate the damage that greed causes or maximize the benefits of greed, right?
So the reason that we can afford to buy cars in the United States is because Henry Ford wanted to make as much money as possible.
So he came up with the assembly line and that made cars way less expensive to produce.
And therefore, the prices of them went down and everybody was able to buy one.
So one man's greed and capitalism can actually benefit the entire populace, right?
But in communism, you don't have that dynamic.
No, and you will never have it.
Like that's the thing.
You would never have it.
And I bought the book, like I said, I bought a Communist Manifesto.
I plan to read it To see exactly what they are talking about, because I'm up to the challenge.
If their rhetoric is read some marks, you know, and get educated, fine, I'll get educated, but don't forget that they might, you know, turn turn around and I might make arguments against your beliefs.
And like everything that it's in this book, man, and it was fairly cheap.
I think it was under $5 on Amazon, you know, because capitalism and all that evil system.
So it's all good what Marx is talking about.
The problem is that the moment you insert the human element into it, somebody is always going to want to take power.
Someone's always going to want to seize the means of production.
Someone's always going to want to seize private property and so on and so forth.
And if you listen to socialists on social media, they always talk about, oh, we don't want to seize private property, you know, just the homes that are owned by banks or just the land that is owned by Bill Gates.
And it's always somebody that doesn't have much to amount in their lives that is trying to tell you what you should do with your earnings, with your money, with everything.
And the argument that I hear a lot, there's a Facebook page that I follow just for, I find it very entertaining.
It's the 90 98% or something like that on Facebook.
Right.
And they had a post.
Do you guys think that, what was it?
I'm trying to remember to be as close to how it was as possible.
Do you think that Alan Musk's labor is worth billions or so on and so forth?
And I commented that it's not his labor, it's his idea, it's his brain.
He's, you know, his ability to turn that company and to do to innovate.
He's, you know, one of the biggest entrepreneurs on the planet.
And, you know, that mindset that he has and dedication and perseverance and all that, that's what amounts to the money that he's making.
And secondly, who are you to tell somebody how much money he can make at his own company?
Like, hold on one second.
And the biggest problem that we have, and this is due to, in my opinion, due to a failure in the school system, is that people cannot tell the difference between how much money you have in your wallet, how much money you have in your bank account, and net worth.
It's not the same.
If you tell somebody that my net worth is, I don't know, let's say a million dollars, that does not mean that I have a million dollars cash in my bank account or my stock or my savings account or so on and so forth.
Especially when we're talking about stocks and whatnot.
That million dollars can be $2 million tomorrow and $100,000 the day after.
So I feel that the education system is really failing a lot, a lot of people in this country.
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
And I think another thing that people don't realize about the Elon Musk thing is that it's not just the labor and the ideas, but it's the fact that he harbors all the risk.
Like the vast majority of his wealth is in shares of those companies like Tesla and SpaceX.
And if those companies fail, he's going to lose everything.
So he's inherited all the risk.
He's invested.
He's all in.
The chips are on the table.
He doesn't have them in his pocket, right?
And I just, I think that people don't realize that there is a monetary value in the amount of risk you assume in a capitalist society.
It's worth something.
It's a negotiating chip.
It's leverage.
And I think the other thing too that people miss out on in terms of the economics is that for some reason, people just seem to think that if one person has a bunch of money, it means that it was taken from everybody else.
But as long as people are being productive, there's not a finite amount of monetary value that moves around.
If GDP goes up, the amount of wealth actually increases.
So the pie gets bigger.
So it's not like Elon Musk has too great a proportion of the pie that is every dollar in the world, right?
In a capitalist society, the size of the pie is not fixed.
It can grow as the economy is more productive, right?
And so I think that we have this misconception just because of our nature as human beings that if somebody has something, it's because someone else doesn't have it or someone else can't have it if that person has it.
And so it's almost like this tug of war when that's really not the right way to look at it.
Nobody is poor because Elon Musk is rich.
I totally agree with you.
Somebody asked me in my life who I'm talking to and it's one American podcast on YouTube.
I was trying to comment it.
I don't know why I didn't say it out loud.
That's okay.
Somebody commented, I would like to address and I agree with everything you said.
Just because somebody is getting rich, it doesn't mean that somebody else is getting poor.
This is a common misconception that we are seeing.
And somebody commented in my life that I would like to address it, if you don't mind, that Alan Musk could sell his stock.
So I don't think that the person that made the comment truly understands how the market works.
In order to sell your stock, you need to create a demand.
The more stock you try to sell, the more demand you create, and the more demand you create, the lesser value the stock is going to be worth.
So if Alan Musk would try to sell, I don't know, $500 million in Tesla stock tomorrow, the Tesla stock price would just plummet down.
So there is a common misconception.
He can't just sell it, you know, willy-nilly.
He wakes up one morning and he's like, let me just sell the stock because he has a responsibility for his shareholders and so on and so forth.
So you can't just sell.
I can sell $100 in Tesla stock and nobody's going to raise an eyebrow.
But if he would be to sell, I don't know, $500 million or half a billion, the price would go down.
Well, look what happened to the price of Bitcoin when they announced that they weren't going to be using it anymore for Tesla purchases.
I mean, the tanked when they made that announcement, right?
And that's the same exact principle.
And that's the problem with this unrealized capital gains tax that they're trying to pass.
So they're trying to pass this unrealized capital gains tax.
And I don't want to get too technical.
I don't want to bore your audience, but so unrealized capital gains tax is a tax on shares that you own that you haven't sold.
So in the United States, we pay realized capital gains tax.
So if I sell stocks for $100,000, I have to pay income tax on that $100,000 when I get that money after the sale has happened.
Unrealized capital gains tax is when someone comes in and analyzes the value of the shares that you own and charges you a tax regardless of whether you sell those shares, right?
So a lot of people would be in a position if they were taxed on an unrealized capital gains tax would have to sell shares in order to actually have the liquid funds to pay the tax, right?
And what the left is saying is that, oh, it's not a big deal.
It's not going to impact anybody because we're only going to do it to people who have a net worth of over a billion dollars or who have made $100 million three years in a row.
But the problem with that is those people are owners and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies.
And the vast majority of middle-class Americans who are saving and investing for retirement, whether it's 401ks, IRA investments, whatever they're doing, have money in Index 500 funds.
So they put their money in these investments and those investments are diversified automatically across the top 500 most successful companies in the United States, right?
And if you create an environment in which every year at the end of the year, the wealthiest owners of those stocks have to do massive sell-offs in order to pay their tax bill, it's going to vastly damage the value of all those stocks.
And so even though the middle class is not being taxed directly, they are going to get fucked on their retirement because the value every year of their stocks is going to plummet.
So this is, it's a major, major problem.
I hope it doesn't pass.
It's the same.
It's the same with the argument that they are making when we had when we bailed out the banks a few years ago, if you remember, they're like, yeah, if you can bail out the banks, you can bail out the people.
So one thing, like, this is the lack of reasoning that I don't get.
Like, if we wouldn't have bailed the banks, if the United States government would have not bailed the banks, first of all, the United States economy would have collapsed, followed by the economy of probably half the countries on the planet.
Is that what they want?
Like, is really that what they want?
To have a complete disaster on half of the globe, to just ruin economy after economy after economy after economy.
And it's so easy to buy in that vote because when you talk about, especially like you talked right now, right?
Somebody that has no idea what is going on or has no idea how the stock market works or financial institutions work, right?
They might listen to you and be like, I didn't understand the goddamn thing you said.
I barely understand it.
I'm a little bit right-leaning.
And, you know, you get my vote.
It's the same with the left.
You know, they make all these broad arguments.
And somebody that's not educated, that's why I mentioned college kids earlier.
They see an injustice.
And they are like, you know what?
The Democrats and the left look like they want to fight this injustice.
So, why don't I join them rather than taking a second, taking a step back, analyze why that injustice happened, if it's really an injustice or that person is in that situation because of their own actions, right?
Because, regardless of what they say, actions have consequences.
And it definitely feels that the personal responsibility is something that we don't care about anymore.
We are not talking about it anymore.
And we are going to advocate and make excuses for every single crime in the book because the injustices in the world.
The same with defunding the police and abolishing the police.
And the video that I'm working on right now.
It's ludicrous.
It's complete, complete ludicrous.
You know, that's what that's that reminds me of something I thought of earlier today because obviously after this, after this Virginia election that we just had, there have been a lot of accusations online from the left that it's because of white supremacy or racism that this happened.
Right.
And it occurred to me that, you know, one of the interesting things about Marxism and racism that's similar, despite the fact that Marxists always accuse people of being racist as if it's a bad thing, right?
Which it is.
But they have something very important in common, Marxism and racism.
And that is that traditionally speaking, genuine racists, people who believe that one race is either inferior or superior to another race.
And I'm talking about what the definition actually is of racism, not just stereotypes and bullshit like that.
So traditional racists blame their problems on another race.
So we saw this happen Third Reich, right?
That was exactly what the Nazis did.
They blamed the loss of World War I on all the Jews in Germany.
And that was the whole entire backbone.
Our problems are your fault.
So we are going to eradicate you or punish you, right?
And the Marxists, it's the same thing, only it's not race-related always.
It's class-related, right?
So it's about groups blaming all of their suffering on the exploitation of another group, right?
So it was the proletariat versus the bourgeois and Marxism.
And in racism, it's one race versus another.
So ultimately, the only way to solve racism or Marxism, they have the same solution.
And it goes back to personal accountability.
You have to have a culture of personal accountability where people are like, you know what?
Like, maybe I'm not happy in my life because I'm not doing the things that I need to do in order to be happy.
Maybe if I got up an hour earlier every day and walked, you know, for three miles, it would put me in a better, you know, just little shit like that, all the way up to big stuff about careers and relationships.
And, you know, obviously, if you're in like if you're in like an enslaved or an authoritarian society, there are much more limits on what you can do.
So I'm not saying that it's never someone else's fault or there's never environmental circumstances, but ultimately we have to reawaken a culture and Americans were like, all right, despite whatever's going on, there are certainly things that I can do that I'm not doing.
And some of the outcomes that I'm experiencing that I'm unhappy with are because I'm not doing the things that are within my control.
And if we could somehow find a way to reawaken that, I think that we could eradicate racism and Marxism in one fell swoop.
That's a very interesting take.
I do agree with you.
This group identity politics that are coming from the left, as in you're being judged by your group identity.
If you're a white guy, you are being judged just like all the other white guys together.
If you're an immigrant like myself, you're automatically oppressed.
If you're working hard and you're dedicated to your job, and I mean, I come from working from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.
I did that for four years.
You know, if you do that, you're being taken advantage of.
They completely disregard that, you know, you can do that at your own accord because you want to save some money.
I remember one time I took a job in a restaurant and I was working four hours, three times a week.
I worked there for three months and I literally funded a three-week vacation to Europe.
You know, and they call that being oppressed.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
Like you don't know what you're talking about.
So we have this group identity mentality where we look at somebody and we judge them based on their group affiliation rather than judging them based on their values, integrity, morals, actions, character, so on and so forth.
And I think it's very detrimental to society.
And I think we are setting a very, very bad precedent, especially to the youth and to our youngsters, that, you know, look at CRT, right?
And what is teaching kids in schools?
And you can have all these people that are like, oh, CRT is not being taught in school.
Well, a watered-down version of it definitely is.
Look at the curriculum in schools, right?
So, this group identity, I agree with you.
The faster, if we could just move away from it, I think we could do a lot of good.
The problem that I'm seeing is that you have even these politicians that are trying to make excuses for criminals, right?
I will never forget, look at Maxine Waters and the unrest that she created before the trial of Derek Chauvin, the cop that murdered George Freud.
Look at, if I'm unless I'm mistaken, Kamala Harris advocated for GoFundMe accounts for the rioters from the South 2020, right?
So, look at the squad, Roshida Talib, Ilhan Omar, AOC, right?
Look at their narrative and look at how they are addressing crime and what their stance on criminals is, right?
So, it's not going to happen because we have these politicians that are finding every excuse in the book for criminals in America in 2021 rather than taking a step back and realizing that people are evil, some people are evil, and they are going to commit crime.
But no, they are focusing on how can we prevent that person from going to jail or prison, even though they are a career criminal, right?
Because the system made them create a crime, the system made them sexually assault somebody, the system made them rob an 80-year-old at gunpoint, the system made them shoot somebody in you know, in Brooklyn, New York, or whatever the case is.
Look at Chicago, it's literally a domestic war zone.
The mayor is Democrat, the city council is Democrat, the police chief is Democrat, the entire elected officials in Chicago are Democrats.
It's literally a war zone over there.
I was only in Chicago one time, I'm never going back in my life.
Yeah, I hate Chicago.
I grew up a couple hours away from there.
And they blame it on racism, they blame it on systematic issues, they blame it on the system, they blame it on capitalism rather than blaming it on exactly who's creating the crime.
It's simple as that, and that's why I'm having a hard time, and that's why we cannot have unity with these kinds of people.
Because on one side, you have Democrats or conservatives, you have Republicans or conservatives that are in favor of crime reform and crime bills and punishing evil.
And on the other side, you have somebody that is literally advocating to let evil roam free on our streets.
And those two are not compatible, they are just like water and oil.
And you will never be able to break bread, so to speak, with somebody that has such huge value differences with you, especially when it comes to crime and criminals.
And there was something on the video that I'm editing from the Democratic Social Socialists of America Convention where she was talking about one.
Can I play this?
Do you mind?
No, do it.
We're just hanging out, man.
There's no rules on this podcast.
I don't know if the sound is going to be up, but we had a sexual assault happening within our community, and we go to the center that's available here.
And like, you know, can you not call the police?
So basically, somebody got assaulted.
I don't remember exactly what town she lives in.
We'll be in the video when I'll post it.
But somebody got sexually assaulted and they tried to keep the police from doing their jobs from the people that got sexually assaulted.
They tried to prevent them from calling the police.
That is where we are.
She said it in her own words.
We went to the center and we asked them not to call the police to see what we can do at the community level.
Somebody got sexually assaulted.
What do you mean, what can you do at community level?
The person got sexually assaulted needs help.
They need support.
They need a counselor.
They need help them.
Well, you need to collect the evidence.
Yeah.
And send the person that created the sex that did a sexual assault, send them to jail.
But no, we hate cops so bad that in our own community, somebody got sexually assaulted and we are advocating for them not to call the police.
That is where we are.
It's crazy.
With people that reason like this, that you have somebody that was a victim of a sexual assault and you advocate to take care of it at the local level or community level so they don't call the cops.
Yeah.
Well, and I think the crazy thing about this whole police brutality thing, especially, there's a couple of interesting dynamics going on.
If you look at the numbers and take what I say with a grain of salt, so it might need to be double-checked, but I'm 99% sure that police brutality and police shootings of unarmed minorities was on like a 50-year decline when the George Floyd incident happened, right?
And so if you look at the data, you can see that the problem actually is getting solved.
It's never going to be fast enough, but there were drastic improvements made over 50 years.
It wasn't getting worse.
But everybody seems to think that the problem is getting worse because the way the algorithms are set up on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, and the fact that we see every single instance of police brutality now because videos go viral.
In 1970, if a cop beat the shit out of somebody, nobody knew about it except for that guy's family and maybe a lawyer, right?
But now you got millions and millions of people seeing it.
And so there's like this heightened awareness about every micro incident.
So psychologically, it feels like the problem is out of control and getting worse, even though in reality, the problem is much better.
The issue is much better than it ever has been, right?
And so I don't know how we bridge the gap between that disconnect, but that's something that's just ingrained in our human nature because the way our brains are wired, we really, really add disproportionate weight to our personal experiences despite what the actual reality might be, right?
I mean, that's why we made this scientific method so that we could do experiments that would move us away from biases and stuff.
And it's just, I don't know, we failed on so many levels, but the whole police brutality thing is scary to me because, you know, the problem was not as big as it was amplified to be.
And then the politicians on the left decided that it was okay to make communities much more dangerous in order for political gain.
They knew that if they defunded the cops, crime was going to go up because it's happened every single time any community has ever done that in history, right?
When there are fewer cops, there are more crimes committed in an area, right?
And so there's just no disputing it.
And they let it happen anyway because they knew that it was the politically expedient thing to do because the people were wrong in their understanding of the problem, right?
The people were wrong.
They had an exaggerated notion of what the problem was.
And when the people are wrong, the politicians exploit that and policy is enacted that's not based on reality.
That's based on a lie.
And that's democracy, but it's one of the best systems that's ever been created.
But that is a weakness of it.
It is not a perfect system.
When the people are wrong, a society, a democratic society suffers.
No, I totally agree with you.
It was definitely a move, a play.
And you are correct.
Like, think about this.
Do you remember the shooting of Makaya Bryant?
The one that was stabbing another girl, and cops show up and shot her while she was holding a knife.
Like in the middle of the day, right?
And then she lunged at the cop.
Yeah, I remember that.
I saw that video.
Days before that, there was another stabbing, another shooting where cops shot somebody that was stabbing somebody else.
Only that person was white.
No media coverage, nothing.
But all of a sudden, they shot a black person, full media coverage all over the country, right?
So media is definitely playing a game in this.
They definitely have their agenda.
They are definitely lying to us.
Or even if they are not lying to us, they are only showing us one side of the events without showing us the full side of the events.
And, you know, like it's all from politicians.
I mean, take a look one second here.
I'm sorry.
No, you don't need to apologize.
So in Chicago, 2021 is the year is not even over yet, right?
And it's worse than any year since 1996.
Sexual affairs are up 25%.
Murder is up 3%.
Theft is up 16%.
Motor vehicle theft is up 5%.
And just compared to 2019, three years ago, two years ago, murder is up 57% compared to 2019.
And this comes from the chicagopolice.org website.
And they still want to defund the police.
Like, they didn't learn the lesson.
In New York City, they defunded it by 1 billion.
Seattle, 3.5 million.
Minneapolis, 1.1 million.
Portland, 16 million.
Los Angeles was like 300 million or something outrageous.
Where?
Los Angeles was one of the biggest ones.
LA, Los Angeles, 150 million.
Okay.
In 2020, in Los Angeles, there were 38% more murders than in 2019.
And in 2021, this year so far, murders are up 28%.
Wow.
Murders, not theft.
No, you walk down the street and somebody pulls a knife and they are like, you know what?
Give me your wallet.
It's when you get fucking murdered.
And they still blame the cops.
They still want less cops instead of advocating for more cops.
Now, I'm not saying that, you know, in a community that has, I don't know, let's say 10,000 people, right?
I'm not saying that they need heavy patrol unless they have high crime.
So I think we can all agree that there's some much needed police reform in America.
Sure.
But not to the point where you let your most vulnerable people in harm's way to fit your misguided imaginary utopia.
That is the problem that I'm having.
Well, and even if you look at instances of historical wars that have occurred between nations and when one nation surrenders to another at the end of a war, it's not like the winning nation forces all of the military leaders of their opponent to retire.
They still retain command because you can't have a situation in which you have all the enemy troops just kind of like with no leaders wandering around.
There's no system, right?
So the nation surrenders in a war.
They even still have the structure and their infrastructure and their systems in place to whatever, take the troops back or make sure that they're getting the supplies through and they're removing the munitions or whatever happens at the end of a war, right?
And so it's just funny to me that even at the end of a war when two nations have been fighting to the death, in the bloodiest instances of history, there's still the wisdom to allow the enemy to maintain some sort of control, at least temporarily, over their troops.
But when one cop makes a mistake that goes viral, all of a sudden politically in the United States, we just decide to fire all the cops.
Like, even if the even if the whole system was corrupt, an immediate abolishment of something that we're leaning so heavily on like that is so reckless.
It's like letting the banks fail.
Only it's, you know, it's law and order.
Yeah, correct.
And, you know, I don't know if these people are realizing, let's say they abolish the entire police, right?
What do you think is going to happen without cops the next time they try to burn down a 7-Eleven or they try to riot or they try to burn down a suburb of a city?
Yeah.
Without cops, what do they think it's what do they think is actually going to happen?
Because I would probably lock my family in the basement, right?
To keep them safe.
But there are a lot of stupid motherfuckers out there that just itch, that are just itching to be violent, that are just itching to give them a taste of their own medicine, right?
So without cops, what do they think they're going to happen?
It's going to happen.
Because I don't know if you've watched some videos on social media, but Antifa is not really organized when it comes to, you know, tactics and defending themselves and so on and so forth.
They really aren't.
Like there was a video online the other day.
I was driving.
I couldn't save it.
I wish I would have saved it.
It was a guy from Antifa, Portland, I think.
Yeah, Portland.
And there was a video about, you know, creating targets and so on and so forth.
And I was laughing my entire time, listening to him, just the shit that he was, you know, debitating out of his head.
And I'm like, oh my God, like, really?
You think you stand a chance with that kind of crap?
Come on.
Right.
Well, I think that, you know, you make a really good point.
And all you have to do is look at what happened in Kenosha with Kyle Rittenhouse, right?
Regardless of what you think about Kyle Rittenhouse and whether he did the right thing or not, it's irrelevant.
If there were enough cops and they were arresting people who were setting fires, no one would have been shot by Kyle Rittenhouse that night, whether it was self-defense or not, right?
Because Kyle Rittenhouse was there volunteering with a fire extinguisher and he was running from dumpster to dumpster, putting out fires that were being lit by protesters because there were no firemen and there were no cops.
And then the mob got angry at him for interfering.
And that's when it became violent, right?
And so that's what happens.
And so if the mob wants to just destroy, and there are some people that just want to do that, I mean, the Joker from Batman is famous for that, especially in the second one with his ledger.
That was the whole theme, right?
Some people just want to see the world burn, right?
That was his whole shtick.
And I think that's true.
But it's for those in the middle, like we were talking about at the beginning of our conversation, who don't want the world to just burn.
I hope that they realize that's what's going to happen if you just pull the rug out.
I love your optimism.
I'm a little bit more on the pessimist side.
I think that there are some Democrats out there that acknowledge and they realize that we need cops in society, right?
But my thing is this: considering what happened in Virginia, let them keep fucking up because there's no other way for them to create a lot of conservatives and Republicans than to keep fucking up and fucking up and fucking up even more.
And then it's just going to happen what happened in Virginia.
And I just want to make a comment for my followers regarding Virginia.
Yeah, we are happy.
We won in Virginia.
We have a Republican governor.
It's all good.
But don't celebrate too much.
This is just half of the battle.
Yeah.
Because he won by a small margin, 50 point something percent compared to what was it?
48 point something percent.
It was close.
It was very close, which tells us, hey, Brooke, which tells us that even though we won, we won by a small margin.
And there are still a lot of people in Virginia that voted blue, even considering everything that is going on in that state or everything that went on in that state, right?
So don't celebrate too much.
This is the time where we hold our elected officials to a higher standard.
This is the time where Republicans have to step in and actually do shit and get shit done and lead by examples and show some goddamn leadership.
Because the amount of people in this country that are obsessively idolizing politicians on both sides of the aisle, it's astonishing.
And that is part of the reason why some shit doesn't get done.
Because no matter what they do, no matter what they say, they just idolize it.
And I can give you several examples from Trump and the shit that he said and the stuff that he done.
And people were just like chanting for him rather than like, bro, shut fuck up.
Right?
Right.
So we, we, if this is not a wake-up call from conservatives and Republicans, that hey, we won Virginia, but let's take this moment and seize the moment and do something, you know, and lead by example, show some leadership and show what we can get done.
We might not win Virginia again because the last time Virginia was Republican was like 12 years ago, unless I missed yeah, 12 years ago, right?
So it's been a little bit more than a decade since Virginia was red.
And like we won now, but the next time we can lose if we don't do something.
So did you ever see, or did you ever read the book, The 48 Laws of Power by Robert Green?
Have you heard of that book?
It's an awesome book.
I highly recommend it.
It's long.
You don't have to read it page by page.
You can use it as a reference book.
You can keep it like every other page.
Yeah, exactly.
Right.
And anyway, one of the 48 laws of power that Robert Greene writes about is that you must crush your enemy entirely, right?
So if you don't totally defeat an enemy, whether it's politically, whether it's in business, whether it's in a war, if you don't totally defeat them, then they will always come back.
Right.
And we see this with like with the classic story of Troy and the Iliad that Homer wrote, the famous Greek poem, right?
But with the Trojan horse, right?
The Trojans assumed victory prematurely.
They didn't crush their enemy entirely, and they thought they won and they celebrated.
And as they were celebrating, they were totally infiltrated by a small number of troops and destroyed.
And the moral of that story is: don't consider yourself victorious until you're absolutely certain, until the enemy's absolutely vanquished.
And so, yeah, I agree with you.
We just won this battle in Virginia, but there are 49 other states.
There are major elections coming up in 2022.
2024 is going to be insane for so many different reasons, right?
This is the beginning.
Me too.
I'm freaked out.
They wait for it.
They are going to unleash hell.
I don't know what's going to happen.
I really hope it's not going to be something major.
But if 2020 was the way it was, just wait for the 2023 because they are scared.
And if you watch CNN at all, I don't really watch CNN because it's, I can't deal with all the stupidity.
But if you watch them and their rhetoric and you take a second to dissect what they are saying and their tone and how they are approaching things, They are they are a little afraid, and you know, I the moderate Democrats are gonna be like, whatever, you know, we're gonna do the best we can to win and so on and so forth.
But, you know, the extremists like the squad and ALC and Rashid Atlib and you know, Il Han and the and other ones, they are not, they are not, and they are gonna it all up for everybody.
Yeah, so it's gonna be really paramount for conservatives and Republicans to keep the composure, you know, to keep the emotion out of it, to use reasoning and to keep going.
And to speak up, man, to speak up.
Like, that's one thing that if I could say something to anybody that's on the on the right, is like you need to speak up.
I don't care if it's like if it's your school meeting, if it's something in your town, you know, you need, you need, you need to speak up.
You really need to speak up.
The time to be silenced is long over.
Because I promise you something: if you work in a corporate setting and you go to a Black Lives Matter protest or riot, actually, you don't have a big chance of losing your job.
But if you are, I don't know, you are very involved in politics as a conservatives or Republican, at some point your job is going to be in danger.
I promise you that.
Yeah.
Well, and one of the things that scares me the most about 2024, based on what you just said too.
And I'm someone who is a Trump supporter.
I'm not like a Trump worshiper.
I'm probably going to vote for him.
I'll wait.
I'll give the other candidates a shot and be reasonable, but I'm probably going to vote for him.
But what scares me is the left, including the corporate media and the politicians and the FBI and every official, after January 6th, they branded every single Trump supporter as a domestic terrorist.
They explicitly used that term.
They've arrested them.
They've used the term insurrection to describe what happened on January 6th, but they never used the word insurrection to describe what happened in Kabul in September, which was literally an insurrection, an actual insurrection where a government fell.
How many of them are being charged with the insurrection?
None of them.
Right.
And so, but now you have a situation where half the country thinks the other half of the country is a terrorist organization, right?
Or basically domestic terrorists.
And so if Trump wins in 2024, that means half the country is going to believe that the insurrectionists have overthrown the government.
That's like a recipe for violence, right?
Yep, absolutely.
I absolutely agree with you on that one.
So I'm concerned about that.
And if we look at it, I try to look at it from like a pattern, like a behavioral pattern, right?
Look what happened in Loudoun County, Virginia, where that guy, his daughter was sexually assaulted at school in a gender-neutral bathroom, if I'm not mistaken.
Don't quote me on it, but she was actually assaulted at school.
And the school called the cops on him when he went to inquire what happened, only later to find out that they found evidence of sexual assault.
They moved that kid from that school to another school where he sexually assaulted somebody again, right?
And everything was buried by the school system.
And they didn't report it to the state.
So there was the second fuck-up.
And not only that, but they got the guy arrested.
There were like three or four cops that were called to arrest the guy.
And he said, if your daughter will be sexually assaulted at school and the school wouldn't do anything about it, we'll try to cover it.
What would you do?
And after that, the school union sent a letter to the attorney general and the attorney general reached out to the DOJ.
And then the school union retracted the letter.
And the attorney general continued the prosecution.
Yes, too late.
Labeling him a domestic terrorist and so on and so forth for the simple reason that he holds the school accountable for covering up the sexual abuse that happened to his daughter.
Yep.
And these are the kind of people that the left wants to don't want them to go to jail.
Yep.
Yep.
And that's exactly what we've been talking about.
When the system fails to provide justice, people, for better or for worse, often for worse, take matters into their own hands.
I mean, this is how the mafia got power in the United States.
You know, there was a lot of racism against Italians when they came over 100 years ago.
And the law enforcement wouldn't protect their communities.
They were getting no sort of justice.
And the mafia formed, the families came by and they offered protection to these businesses in exchange for basically a tax.
And that's how organized crime came about.
So if justice is not provided by the system, justice will be provided somewhere else.
And those sources are often very dangerous sources.
Yeah, I totally agree with you.
And imagine this.
Imagine you pay taxes, right?
You send your kids to school.
Your school gets sexually assaulted.
You try to hold the school accountable and to speak up because you pay taxes and you get on an FBI watch list or you get a visit from DOJ or anything like that when literally you and your family are the victim.
All because some woke school principal or school board member or something just hit your guts because you spoke against them.
And people, that's what I'm saying.
And we still, considering all that happened, we still barely won in Virginia.
Yeah.
I agree.
I think it's a huge celebration moment right now.
I agree.
I think you just made an awesome point by framing it like that.
So obviously, because the story happened over a period of weeks.
It was reported differently by different sources.
So if you weren't paying attention, it's really hard for it to click like that.
But that's exactly what happened.
There was a victim who was taken advantage of, who sought justice, and then was prosecuted because they're demonized.
And our left-wing media criticized him and made him a domestic terrorist.
Right.
And here's the thing.
If you're a Democrat or a Republican, no big deal.
People disagree about stuff like how high should taxes be, how much should the government provide XYZ.
The old Democrat versus Republican debates were reasonable debates that reasonable people could disagree about different things, right?
But regardless of what you think about the traditional left versus right policies, everybody should be pissed off at what happened to that dude when he's getting prosecuted by the state for calling the state out for not fulfilling its duty, which is to establish justice, to provide justice in these instances, right?
And so I don't, you know, if you're a Democrat and you think that everybody should go to public school and college should be free, whatever.
I disagree.
That's not a big deal, though.
That's not like good versus evil shit.
But what we're seeing here is like evil statism to the core.
And all Americans should rally behind that because we have a lot of common road on the left and right that we can go down to correct these issues before our differences even become relevant.
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
And people still voted.
And that is the problem.
Where's the uproar on that?
Imagine if those parents would have burned down a building or rioted or protested in the middle of the city, right?
They didn't.
Just one parent spoke up against the school and he was automatically labeled a domestic terrorist by the left, by the attorney general, by the DOJ, by the entire left-wing media.
And they are criticizing us and the conservatives are in the wrong and so on and so forth.
Get out of here.
Get out of here.
I agree, man.
It's a complete, complete disaster.
And every single one of them should have been fired.
Damn right.
Every single one of them should have been fired without the possibility of ever, ever, ever working in a school system or anything to do with education or teaching or talent development or anything like that.
Yeah.
Well, and the other problem this creates too is when the government and the media consistently lie about something or a number of things for so long, when everything is a lie all the time, and then something occurs and it's incredibly important for the truth to be known, right?
So I'm going to use the vaccines, right?
I'm not going to, I don't want to talk about whether or not the vaccines are safe or legit or that.
That's not my point here.
But what I do want to say is if the vaccines are actually safe, hypothetically, if they are safe and saving lives, it is a damn shame that our government and our media entities have lied so much the last five years because that's the reason people question the election results.
And that's the reason people question the vaccine stuff.
It's not because of crazy right-wing conspiracy theories.
It's because these motherfuckers lied about everything else.
So if they're telling the truth, they might be.
I don't know.
I don't care.
Whatever.
I'm not trying to make a case for vaccines or anything or against.
But if they're telling the truth about how important the vaccines are, how the fuck are they supposed to expect anyone to believe anything that they've said?
Yeah, so let me touch.
Can I elaborate on a little bit?
Sure.
Say whatever you want, man.
Yeah, thank you.
Yeah, freedom of speech, right?
God bless America.
Let's talk about ivermectin.
I hope I said it right.
Yeah.
Right.
And the entire bullshit narrative from the left regarding ivermectin.
The horse dewormer allegations.
Yeah.
So you, I don't know if you noticed.
I have Lyme disease, right?
I got it two years ago.
It's been a long time since.
Yeah, it's fine.
Thank you.
Do you take hydroxy for that?
What?
Do you take hydroxychloroquine for that?
Is that one of the treatments?
I didn't.
No, I didn't.
So when you get beat by a tick, depending on what area of the globe you are, you can get Lyme disease and also other bullshit infections, right?
One of the other that you can get is called, I hope I'm pronouncing it right.
It's babasiosis or babesia, which is like a parasitic type, you know, illness that you get from tick bites.
The number one treatment, effective treatment all over the world for that thing is ivermectin.
Right.
It's an anti-parasitic drug.
It's a miracle.
It's been successfully working as the primarily primary treatment from Babasia for years now.
Nothing else.
That was the number one thing.
And they shifted it around so bad that in the Lyme community, people were complaining that they would go to the pharmacy to get their prescription filled out for their treatment for this nasty shit.
And the pharmacy would not fill their prescription because of the narrative regarding ivermectin and coronavirus and so on and so forth.
And they would be like, well, I have this from a tick bite.
And, you know, I've been under this treatment for, I don't know, two months, three months, because everything that comes from ticks, unless you treat it in the beginning, you can treat it for years after that.
And they couldn't get their prescription because of shortages, or even when pharmacies had it, the pharmacists would deny filling the prescription because of all this bullshit around.
And the same with hydro, how is it called?
Hydroxychloroquine.
It's a little tricky.
Hydroxychloroquine, right?
Has been prescribed for years for patients with chronic Lyme disease due to arthritis and stuff like that, because it's an anti-inflammatory and it helps with the symptoms from arthritis, you know, pain in the knees, joints, joint swelling, and so on and so forth.
And even those people in the Lyme community on forums and whatnot were complaining about going through the same shit because pharmacies either didn't have it or they were saying they don't have it or pharmacists refused to fill the prescription.
Which, if you think about it, do you think those people are going to vote Democrat at the next election?
I promise you, not a single one of them.
And I asked this question on a bunch of forums and I asked them point blank, would you still vote Democrat considering you are suffering, literally suffering right now, because you cannot get your prescription filled because of this political bullshit narrative.
And every single one of them said that they would not.
And there were some people out there, they were like, I voted Democrat my entire life.
By right now, I am in misery.
I'm on a medical leave of absence because I cannot physically go to work because I'm in so much pain because I cannot find a pharmacy to fill my prescription.
And they said even themselves, I will not vote a Democrat in the next election.
So I guess thank you.
Thank you, woke Democrats, for fucking it up for yourselves and helping us.
It's simple as that.
So I learned this firsthand on these online forums for Lyme disease and co-infections and so on and so forth.
And people were saying, look, I was getting this for years, for years, for months, some even for years.
And all of a sudden, they cannot get their prescriptions filled because of this political narrative that was happening in America.
And I think it's shitty when a politician or the media is trying to twist the narrative with horse dewormer and shit like that.
Look at the coverage that they gave to Joe Rogan.
And he was prescribed ivermectin by his doctor.
And they made it look like, fuck, what is he doing?
He's just taking dewormer.
Hold on one second.
Yep.
That's why these journalists, it's an enemy of the people shit when they do that.
They do that because they know that these are hot keywords.
I remect him, Joe Rogan, and they know that it's a sensational story.
And if they publish it, even though it's dishonest, they'll generate more clicks.
And if they generate more clicks, they get paid more by advertisers on their platforms, right?
And so they basically just sell out for click, for for click volume.
And it's really, really harming the country.
I mean, basically, every misconception that people have in the United States today is either because our culture, our society has failed to tell them the truth, or it has intentionally told them a lie.
Correct.
Correct.
I totally, totally agree with you.
So, anyway, on that note, where can people find you?
Conservative immigrants on TikTok, Facebook, Instagram.
YouTube, we're still developing that, but making YouTube videos in depth and whatnot, it's time consuming.
And when you have a full-time job, you know, it's a little hard to find a type.
What I would love to do is, like, if I, my dream would be to do this kind of conversations, just talks, man, just kind of podcast setting where you just talk with people on various political issues and so on and so forth.
So that's the direction that I'm heading in, hopefully.
