America Will Be Free Again Despite Everything From 9/11 To Biden With Noor Bin Ladin | OAP #52
Born in Switzerland to a Swiss mother and Saudi father with the most controversial last name of the 21st century, at first glance it isn't obvious that I would be a freedom loving, Americanophile and patriot at heart.
My background story and early life were recorded in my mom's bestselling book, "Inside the Kingdom: my life in Saudi Arabia", by Carmen Bin Ladin. In short, upon realizing that she couldn't bring herself to raise her three girls according to Saudi culture, she fought a long, harsh battle in Swiss courts in order to gain our freedom and secure our upbringing in the West with Judeo-Christian values.
This clash between my life and how different it would have been in Saudi Arabia had she lost, made me appreciative of our values and freedoms here in the West from early on in my childhood. Traveling to America extensively from the age of three onwards further cemented my gratitude for our way of life and my love for the American way in particular.
Though I have largely kept to myself since the tragic day of 9/11, I can no longer stand by and watch as America burns. A supporter of President Trump since his campaigning days of 2015, I felt compelled to speak up ahead of the 2020 elections, the most consequential in America's history.
Why? Because the more we are to take a stand in the fight for the Free World, the higher the chance of saving Western Civilization from the brink of collapse. Believe General Flynn when he writes, "When the destiny of the United States is at stake, and it is, the very future of the entire world is threatened."
As the last stand of true Freedom in the world, the fate of humanity rests on the shoulders of America, and President Trump. Patriots across the globe are watching closely and rooting for their success, as it will be ours too.
- Noor Bin Ladin
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My name is Chase Geiser, and I am One American.
It's One American Podcast, and we are live with Noor Bin Laden.
Noor, thank you for coming on.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you for having me on, Chase.
It's nice to be with you.
It's my pleasure.
I wanted to ask you just to start, what does America mean to you?
The immediate word that comes to my mind is freedom, first and foremost.
And it is one of the many reasons why I love your nation so much, is that the founding fathers put freedom at the center of everything they set out to accomplish, preserving and defending the freedom of citizens and ensuring that whatever government system they would set up would protect the freedom of citizens and that this very precise way of viewing things that only God,
only God grants rights to human beings, not any form of government, not any group of people, not any group of tyrants, of rulers, only God has this power.
And I've been a great admirer of America and what America stands for since a very young age.
And you couple that with my affection for the country because I've been traveling to the U.S. since the age of three, multiple times a year.
And so I have a very deep connection to this country on a personal level as well.
So it's a combination of things.
And then obviously my interest is solidified because for every freedom-loving person in the world and just any citizen, you know, wherever you find yourself, everything that happens in America has repercussions for the rest of the world as well.
So there's also a keen, more generalized interest there, I think, for a lot of us watching from abroad.
You know, I've been thinking about this a lot lately because growing up in the United States, I always sort of took it for granted that freedom was going to be sort of this forever thing here.
And I never would have, even three years ago, I never would have been able to predict the amount of government growth and regulation that we've seen in light of this pandemic.
And I wonder if, do you think there's hope for freedom in America or is the entropy of freedom inevitable?
Well, you know, it was President Reagan that said that freedom is only one generation away, you know, from being lost.
I'm paraphrasing here.
But no, I'm incredibly optimistic.
Although it's been, it's very distressing watching events unfold, you know, especially since the installment of the Biden regime in January.
It's been incredibly, as I said, distressing to watch, you know, the suffering of the American people and abroad, obviously, and the consequences of certain of the policies they've put in place.
Of course, this is something that has been taking place, as I've said elsewhere, you know, for many, many decades.
That being said, I am incredibly optimistic because I've said this many times before, America belongs to patriots and patriots are waking up and patriots know, know that this is their country and not anybody else's country.
And I believe they are going to take back the country.
They are going to clean up all of these institutions at the federal, state, local levels.
You see more and more people getting involved, you know, whether it's the parents who are standing up at, you know, at the education boards to defend, you know, their children's, Their children, excuse me, and just people speaking up, people like yourself.
You know, you started your platform, you know, one American, and every single American has a part to play in this pushback.
And I see it happening, and it's very encouraging to me.
And you guys will take back your country, I have no doubt.
What would you say is the source of your affinity for America?
It's quite multifaceted, but for sure, you know, the fact that my parents split up, I was eight months old, and my mother fought a very long and arduous battle to obtain custody of me and my two older sisters for us to be raised in Switzerland.
My mom is Swiss.
And the separation happened while my parents were in Switzerland.
I was born, I was born here.
I'm calling from Switzerland.
I was born here.
And luckily, the separation happened here as opposed to Saudi Arabia.
And my mom was able, it's a very long story, but my mom was able to raise us in Switzerland as opposed to Saudi Arabia.
And this clash of what my life could have been had I been raised in a society like Saudi Arabia from a very, very young age, I realized how blessed I was to live in a free society, absolutely.
And so this undoubtedly is the how would you say?
Sorry, my brain is thinking in French today.
The source.
The source, thank you very much, is very much a big part of the source of my love of freedom and thus for America.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
So growing up in Switzerland, you would often visit the United States, you mentioned.
Do you still frequent the United States?
I mean, I would be with you right now if it weren't for COVID restrictions.
I mean, the entire Eurozone and Switzerland have been placed on the list of countries.
I mean, we cannot basically go to America since the pandemic started.
So growing up in Switzerland and having your father in Saudi Arabia, it seems like, and I noticed from a previous interview that I watched with Patrick Ben David, you know, that your mother and your father fell in love in a very genuine, romantic way.
How is it that they even crossed paths?
Yes, the love story of my parents is really actually very romantic, as you said, and quite beautiful.
And my mom relates it in her book, which was a New York Times bestseller, entitled Inside the Kingdom, My Life in Saudi Arabia.
And so the story starts with how they met in Switzerland.
My father and his family were holidaying there.
And, you know, just through fate, they met their lives crossed paths and they fell in love over the summer and decided to get married.
And my mother and he moved to America first.
They studied at USC.
My eldest sister and my eldest sister was actually born in California.
And then they moved to Saudi Arabia in the mid-late, in the late 70s.
Late 70s.
Okay, Saudi Arabia, late 70s.
I'm trying to put together the timeline.
So what was it like for your mother to be in Saudi Arabia?
This is actually the fascinating part of her book because she really just describes how her life was there.
And it's although it's a memoir from a mother to her daughters, because one of the reasons why she wrote it was to explain to me and my two older sisters the circumstances surrounding the separation and the emotional price in many respects we had to bear from the situation.
But beyond that, it's very much an analysis of Saudi Arabia at this crucial time in the 70s, early 80s.
And she basically, while she was there, saw Saudi Arabia, which was basically a land that had nothing, completely modernized in the space of a few years.
And her analysis of the society and seeing as how At the beginning, she was very hopeful that with the modernization in a material sense, seeing the society transform so rapidly,
she thought that perhaps culturally as well, there would be such a change and that to raise girls wouldn't be as stringent and strict as it had been.
But unfortunately, she realized that the change wasn't happening at the same pace.
And so she had to make a decision whereby she thought it would be better to raise her children in the West.
And while she had fallen in love with our father and that had been her choice, she didn't want to impose this on her three girls.
Well, I came a little bit later, so at the time for her two girls.
That makes sense.
That must have been very hard for her.
And that's brave of her to make that decision.
So it's just so interesting that you have this sort of dichotomy where on one side, there's sort of this very, well, I don't know what the word I'm looking for, just sort of strict sort of ideological culture, right?
And then on the other side, there's the Western culture, which I wouldn't say it's not ideological or not strict, but it's certainly more leaning on freedom rather than discipline or devoutness to any sort of religion.
So were you raised religious?
Actually not.
My father and his family played no part in my life growing up.
So I was actually never, I was never exposed to Islam growing up, which is something that I think viewers don't necessarily know.
I haven't been asked this so directly in any other interview before.
Sorry.
No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not a cause for apology, but that's one of the reasons why maybe your viewers wouldn't know is that no, actually, I wasn't, but very much I was raised by my mother with Judeo-Christian values or Christian values in Switzerland.
Yes.
So is that something that was difficult for your parents in terms of just having different faiths or different ideas about religion?
Well, my mother didn't grow up Christian.
And so it was very much, there was this notion of belief in God, for sure, in my household, but it wasn't a religion.
I didn't grow up with a religion, basically.
My mother didn't raise me with a religion as she hadn't been raised with a religion herself, but there was very much this belief that there is a God.
And that was very prevalent.
And my mother, as I said, she became Christian later in life, but she wasn't, you know, when we were growing up.
And without knowing it, though, she very much raised us with Christian values, you know, and the golden rule.
And we I definitely reading the Bible later in life, I recognized that my mother and her education was extremely close to the precepts.
Can you say that word in English?
The precepts in the Bible?
Precepts.
You mean like the Gospels?
I mean, precepts is an English word.
Yes, because I translate from French.
So les preceptes.
Oh, yeah, les preceptes.
Sorry.
Well, the teachings of the Bible.
Let's put it.
Sure, I see.
Oh, okay.
I see.
Like the principles.
Okay.
The principles that works as well.
Okay.
Yeah, this is an exercise I need to do before every interview.
Usually I call a friend or speak with someone in English for a few minutes before, because otherwise my language that I use on a daily basis is French.
And then I realized, my goodness, my French brain is on.
I need to switch gears here.
I should probably do the same thing.
My English isn't very good.
Your English sounds perfectly fine to me.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
I wanted to ask you about 9-11 specifically.
Pardon the lack of subtlety, but it must have come as quite a surprise to you as it did to everyone else in the world.
I think you were 14 years old when it happened.
Where were you when you heard the news of 9-11?
I was here in Switzerland.
I had just gotten back from school.
And where'd you study?
I guess you were 14, so it doesn't matter.
Yeah, we can talk about that afterwards, but yeah, it was like the second day of school, and like everybody else in the world watching, I was completely grief-stricken and shocked.
I think that anyone who is of age, you know, who remembers, who was old enough to remember today what happened, I think it's an event that forever marked anyone that was watching that day.
And for sure, because of my love for America, it really felt like someone had attacked my home because at that point, you know, America was really like my second home after Switzerland.
But I was just the horror of it all was just in, I mean, yeah, it was a horrible day.
It was a really horrible day.
Were there any sort of like quiet, was there any sort of a quiet understanding in your family that Osama bin Laden was very radical?
So my mother actually mentions this in her book, but Osama bin Laden was always considered very pious because, you know, in Saudi society, you have people who practice a more stringent or literal application of Islam.
And he was definitely considered and acted in a very stringent or applied Islam in a very stringent way.
Yes.
And my mom describes a couple of occasions in the book where she ran into him and things like that that supports this.
So, you know, one thing that's interesting is obviously in the United States, and especially in the 20th century, we have a lot of just cultural references and issues with like cult leaders like Jim Jones, or you can just name a number of cult leaders that are sort of famous in the United States throughout the 20th century.
And it's interesting to me when I consider Osama bin Laden, and I wanted to ask you about this, in that a lot of times religious leaders are disingenuous.
They're either out for financial gain or power and they sort of use religion in order to harness that power.
Would you say that Osama bin Laden's religious, his faith was very genuine?
I've never spoken to Osama bin Laden.
I've never met Osama bin Laden.
So for me to comment on that, I'm not sure what to say.
Sure.
Fair enough.
I've read, you know, like you, I've read information and certain things he's written and certain things he's said.
But I don't have a direct, how would you say, connection or access that would enable me to comment.
Okay.
So as time went on, you obviously got older.
What did you study where?
I went to the University of Geneva and I got a bachelor's degree in business administration.
I followed that with a master's in commercial law at the University of London.
And I went on to do an accelerated diploma in computer programming when I thought I wanted to become a pro computer programmer at the time.
And tech was all the rage.
But that's a good idea.
Do you still code it all?
No, actually, I haven't coded in a really long time.
I'm much more interested in reading about history, which is actually my true passion.
So if I had to go and do it all over again, I probably would have studied something more along the lines of history or political science or philosophy.
I would have loved to study these topics instead.
Who's your favorite philosopher?
Oh, I'm a total novice.
I have one of my goals actually is to, When there is time, you know, right now we're in the middle of the digital war, but when there is a bit more time, I want to start reading about philosophy and applying myself to studying it because I haven't yet.
That's one of the things that I've noticed as well, the last really ever since Trump was elected, just because of how politicized everything became, not because of him, but in reaction to him.
And I've noticed that it's very hard to focus on the things that we would otherwise be doing because the politics are so prevalent.
And, you know, it's sort of a shame, but the opportunity cost, the creativity, the thinking minds that are so sort of preoccupied with battling against the censorship and the pandemic and the infringements on freedom.
I wish that all that intelligence and that mind power could be used again in sort of a hyper-creative way, like it was, you know, a number of decades ago.
But hopefully we get back to that point.
No, you're completely right.
And I see it even with myself, you know.
But right now, the crisis has accelerated, I would say, you know, the past 20 months, obviously.
And it for sure gives one less time to go and actually read longer books and do proper research.
And in my case, you know, this is what I had been doing for the last three years.
And since, quote, going public or speaking publicly on certain things since September.
And I mean, I'm sure you see it yourself, the amount of work that goes into doing a podcast and relaying information.
It's quite time consuming.
And then obviously the social media, et cetera.
But I'm looking forward.
I have a little book pile that I'm really looking forward to getting into as soon as time allows.
What was the response that you got when you wrote the letter to America?
What was that like?
Tremendous.
It was very strange because I wasn't surprised because of my previous experience with the American people, even right after the tragedy of 9-11.
I haven't had, I've been to the U.S. over a half dozen times since 9-11, and I haven't had a single bad experience.
As I wrote, you know, as I discussed with John Levine, who wrote the New York Post article, which was published, you know, right before I put out my letter to America.
So I hadn't had a single bad experience.
And I know, and I've said this many times before, but the American people are incredibly open-minded, loving, and kind.
And so in that sense, it wasn't a surprise, but nonetheless, it was incredibly overwhelming.
And still to this day, I get wonderful messages that, you know, really touch me and move me.
So it's been wonderful.
So obviously, as you know, there have been a lot of issues with censorship, particularly the past two or three years in the United States.
I think it was sort of set up going into the election.
And then now it's sort of rampant online.
What can freedom-loving Americans do to overcome that obstacle and reverse it?
Because it's easy to get in a state of mind of hopelessness because it seems like all the big business, the big tech, the big government, it seems like we have all these tremendous forces that are constantly sort of eroding freedom like the ocean against a stone.
And how can we, what do you think the solution is for these problems?
I mean, first of all, it's been completely astounding watching this egregious, egregious push to censor all the quote dissidents online.
Most notably, I mean, would you have ever imagined that the sitting president of the United States would have been banned from social media?
It's just unbelievable when you think about it, but this is where we are.
Listen, it does seem insurmountable because these mammoth companies that are essentially extensions of the subverted government, it's an illusion to believe that Facebook or whatever tech company you want to name are completely independent corporations.
They are working with very much with and as an extension of whatever you want to call it, the deep state, the subverted government, etc.
So, in that sense, it does feel insurmountable.
Can you say insurmountable?
Yeah, insurmountable.
Insurmountable.
That being said, you see smaller actors trying to break through into that space.
And, you know, the growth of applications such as or platforms such as Rumble or Odyssey thinking about alternatives to YouTube.
And then, I mean, the terribly, I mean, what happened to Parlor was just ridiculous.
And I get that it can be discouraging.
And it's just their growth was a testament.
The fact that they pulled, you know, Parler off was a testament to their incredible growth.
So while this is, you know, discouraging, but it shows that it is possible to be done.
It's just we have to rethink.
We have to rethink the system and find ways to build infrastructure that is independent of that system.
And this is the task at hand.
And sure, it's daunting, but we don't have a choice.
And I'm fully confident that bright minds will achieve this.
And it's just a question of getting the right people together, getting the resources together.
And there is no limit to the American spirit and to American resourcefulness if we're looking at America in that sense.
What are your thoughts on President Biden's recent withdrawal from Afghanistan?
First of all, you will never hear the words, I've never said it, I haven't said it once.
President Biden.
No.
Sorry.
No, not in any single tweet, writing, or anything.
It's just not possible.
You know, it was the decision itself to leave had to be done.
But I watched his speech, the one he gave shortly afterwards, where he took this America first posturing and it just how hypocritical.
First of all, he lied because he said that this was not about nation building.
We have quotes from him where he actually said, you know, I think it was on the record in Congress where he said, you know, that this was a nation building, that the war was about building the nation of Afghanistan.
Listen, it's such a complex topic, but the one thing I will say, and I've said it, you know, before, that this was not incompetence.
This was very much an operation.
And the fact that they left, the fact that they left Americans behind is just the most despicable thing.
And then the gall of these generals and of Biden going on national television and pretending that this was a success.
13 people died.
13 American soldiers died.
And he goes on television and says that this was a success.
Right.
Right.
It's just infuriating.
And it's incredibly infuriating to watch this regime operate under our noses in such a hypocritical and insulting way.
What do you think his motivations are?
Who Biden's motivation?
I don't know if he himself has motivations.
I'm not really sure he's fully there.
So we can't talk about his motivations.
I mean, clearly, this man is in severe decline and he is not the person who is in charge here.
Yeah.
Do you have any thoughts as to who's actually running things?
I mean, there are so many Obama holdovers.
This is essentially, and this is not me who's been saying this, but this is essentially Obama's third term.
You know, you have people like Susan Rice, et cetera, who are very much working behind the scenes.
But at the end of the day, the only thing I'll say, regardless of who is pulling the strings here, is that this is clearly a government.
You cannot refer to this as a government because a government, you know, is a representative of the people.
When you say government, you mean an entity that represents the people.
And this is clearly not an entity that represents the people, which is why regime is the most appropriate.
But whoever is pulling the strings of this regime, one thing is for certain is that they are not acting in the interest of the American people.
So interesting that you mentioned government as a representative of the people.
Obviously, with this last election cycle, there are a lot of very serious questions from tens of millions of people in the United States about the integrity of the election.
As I can recall, this is the first time this has happened, maybe even since the Civil War, that we've had an election where so many questioned the legitimacy of it.
What are your thoughts as to what the protesters did on January 6th?
And what are your thoughts on how the federal government responded?
January 6th is a topic for which I'm very passionate about.
And I almost immediately started writing about it.
I think my first article on the subject was a couple of weeks after, where I called the quote insurrection for the false flag that it was.
And I've done my best since then to relay information, namely the brilliant reporting of Diane Beattie and Revolver.news and of Julie Kelly at American Greatness, who both of them have done such a tremendous job at exposing the truth about this event.
And we now know that this was not an insurrection and that there was obviously involvement of federal agencies, namely the FBI, behind this.
And the fact that Americans, upstanding Americans, are being persecuted based on a lie.
Over 500 people were arrested, some sitting in jail, some in solitary confinement based on a lie is something that I find I abhor injustice.
And this to me is just the opposite of everything that America stands for and is such an egregious abuse of power.
But again, this goes hand in hand with the fact that this is a regime.
And as in any regime, the purging of dissidents is in order in order to perpetuate their rule.
And this is what we've been seeing for the past nine months now.
The overt, the overt utilization or the overt use of the national security apparatus in order to target American citizens who are voicing,
who are voicing and protesting against these egregious abuses of power by these, quote, rulers who are completely subverting the U.S. Constitution.
And anyone, listen, anyone who dares, this is the thing, we are now living in a time that anyone who dares stand up to this, speak up, will be either censored, persecuted, put in jail, terrorized.
And we see it, you know, look at what, and I wrote about this earlier in August because I had an episode of my own where I was threatened and it was, we can talk about that afterwards if you'd like.
But in the in the paper that I wrote about what happened in my case, I mentioned, you know, what happened to Tucker Carlson this summer.
You know, he's being spied on by the NSA.
And no, this is a, yeah, they are pushing hard against us, against anyone who is trying to expose what they're doing.
And we need to make sure that we cannot be intimidated, we cannot relent.
And this is the title of the piece that I wrote specifically on this subject, which I called entitled Submission is Not an Option.
And I will be fighting until, you know, I won't stop fighting for our freedoms and to try and reverse how far along we've gone in terms of the encroachment of our freedoms.
We need to reverse whatever happened the last few decades, especially the last two decades, with this growth of the national security apparatus completely repurposed to target us now.
My concern is it's not very often that you see the establishment of a regime followed by the unraveling of one peacefully, just in terms of historical context.
My concern is that some of these violations will continue only or will continue as long as there isn't a violent response.
And I'm not endorsing violence by any means, but it seems to me that the only, it seems to me that that's the direction that this is headed.
And I don't know if it's five years from now or 100 years from now.
You know, people can tolerate a lot of pain and infringement for a long period of time.
But it seems to me that these violent times have violent ends.
I think in many respects, this is what they're pushing for and what they are fomenting.
But this movement is incredibly peaceful.
And coming back to January 6, where they are pretending that this was, quote, a violent insurrection.
First of all, all the lies.
I mean, we could do a whole podcast just on 1.6 and all the lies about the people that died that day.
The fact that there hasn't been a single person who died at the hand of Trump supporters.
As I said, Revolver News does such a good job at breaking down all these lies surrounding the deaths and Officer Sicknick.
They actually forced the New York Times to do a retraction about the death of Officer Sicknick.
And wait, what was the point I wanted to make about 1.6?
We were talking about the movement is incredibly peaceful.
And January 6 was a peaceful demonstration against the election steel.
And one statistic that I often refer to, I think I've mentioned it in other interviews, but between September and the election last year, there were about 80 Trump rallies combining about 1.1 million Trump supporters and patriots who gathered at these various events.
There hadn't been a single, not a single act of violence committed at these events.
The patriot movement is a peaceful movement.
And the fact, and I also wrote this in that January article about 1.6, the fact that they are equating that these people are equating patriots and upstanding American citizens to terrorists is something that makes me.
I have no words how infuriating it is to watch this unfold.
And again, this weekend, you know, I didn't even listen to the whole speech.
I couldn't bear watching these people, the unbearable hypocrisy of these people on such a solemn and tragic day this weekend.
But I saw this clip of George Bush where he was talking about terrorism at home and basically repeating this lie of a narrative about Americans.
And I mean, I never swear.
It's easier to swear on Twitter in writing.
You certainly can't.
That is allowed.
No, but what a despicable person.
So when do you think, prior to Donald Trump, when do you think was the last time that we had a good president in the United States?
I mean, the obvious one, although there are certain things that should have been done differently, namely in terms of immigration, but Ronald Reagan, obviously.
But from George Bush Sr. until President Trump, it's just been, you know, I call these people, actually, I think I coined this term on Twitter because then I did a little search to see if somebody else had used it before me.
And I don't think anybody used it before me, but ENOS, Americans in name only.
All right.
So these people, to say it in a PG-13 without swearing, these people basically were all anos.
And when you look at what they've done to the country, as someone who loves America so much and who really values your constitution, to see everything they've done to undermine, to undermine what America stands for has been incredibly heartbreaking.
And I keep using the word infuriating.
And the research that I've been doing, especially on the 20th century, I'm fascinated by the 20th century and looking back specifically at America.
And, you know, what I wrote in my letter to America, and I talked about this also this summer on war room pandemic.
But you look at the 20th century and so much has been done.
This is a plot that has been ongoing for over a century.
I mean, you can go even further.
You know, from the inception of America herself, you had different factions and forces that tried to prevent the country from truly becoming an independent nation if you go as far back.
And through the 1800s as well, there have been attempts to subvert her from within.
And I think that the roots of what we see happening today really trace back or date back to the early 1900s and the presidency of Woodrow Wilson,
where a lot of anti-constitutional, anti-American policies were implemented and the subversion really kick-started properly at that time.
And then you go throughout, you know, the 20th century and the state.
And this is something that someone I really respect talks a lot about, Ned Ryan.
You know, he talks about the bureaucracy, the growth of the administrative state as well.
Just everything snowballed.
And we find ourselves today in 2021 living with the consequences of all these policies and machinations.
And looking at the last 20 years since the tragedy of 9-11, this is clearly, the last 20 years clearly have been the nail in the coffin.
And on that note, I'll be releasing a statement on 9-11 and the aftermath, on the aftermath of 9-11, either late this evening or most likely tomorrow, discussing, you know, the last 20 years and the growth of the national security apparatus and how that has affected Americans.
So there are rumors floating around that Donald Trump is going to run again in 2024.
And obviously that's going to come with some rallies.
Are there any rallies that you want to mention?
Yeah.
So, so actually prior to the, prior to be conscientious of your time.
I could talk to you all day.
No, me too.
I mean, I'm sorry.
I hope we get to meet in person, Chase.
I mean, I say this every time I have an interview, but I'm really dying to get to America and meet all of you and fellow patriots in person.
It's incredibly frustrating to do this on Zoom, but I guess I'm not.
I mean, everybody's in this situation because of COVID.
No, prior to discussing re-election, I think we should talk about that.
There is something I'd like to say.
But in terms of rallies, there is one rally I'd like to mention, which is not about the election, but about January 6th and somebody else whose work I really admire is Matt Brainard and everything he's been doing to raise awareness on the January 6th detainees and political prisoners.
And so he's having a rally on September 18 in Washington, D.C. And I encourage everybody to go to Matt Brainerd's page.
You know what?
If you hold on one second, I'll retweet it because I have it here so that people can go and find it.
Hold on one second.
Justice, Justice for January 6th rally, U.S. Capitol Union Square, Saturday, September 18, 12 p.m.
East.
So I'm going to retweet that for anybody who's watching.
They can find it on my page.
Very good.
I just followed him on Twitter, so I'll send him a message too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You should have him on the show.
Yeah, I'd love to.
So where can people find you?
The best way, I think, is Twitter at Noor Bin Laden and my website, norbinladen.com.
That's where I post my articles and different media things that I do.
And as I mentioned, I'll be publishing something most likely tomorrow.
morning on the aftermath of 9-11 and the state of the world we find ourselves in 20 years on.
Okay.
Well, is there anything else that you would like to say?
Is there any last sentiments that you'd like to share?
Anything I'd like to share?
I know that this has been a very emotional last few days for everybody.
And I mentioned it earlier in the show.
I'm incredibly frustrated that I'm here in Switzerland, but my heart is really in America with everybody at this time, even more so than usual.
Well, thank you so much for coming on.
It was really a pleasure to have you on the show.
An honor to be with you.
I appreciate you taking the time to speak with me and talk about what it means to be America, where she is, and how we can bring her back.
So thank you so much.
And let's stay in touch.
The last thing I'd like to say, just while thanking you as well for having me on the show, is that, and I mentioned this one before we started the chat, but you know, the title of your show, One American, caused me to reflect, and this is really the time where we're living in.
And every single person, I really appreciate the work you do.
You know, you have your podcast and you're spreading the word.
And everybody, I truly believe this, has a role to play right now at this time in history to push back.
Nobody's going to come and defend our freedoms for us if we don't.
It's really up to us.
We live in such a strange but extraordinary time.
And it rests, everything rests on all of our shoulders.
And I am deeply, I have deep admiration and gather a lot of strength myself seeing everybody else and all of you guys' work.
We're all pushing back and this is what we have to do.
The time is now.
But that being said, we will take America back and our freedoms back.
I have no doubt.
It's just, it's going to be difficult.
They are desperate.
The next few months will be very difficult, as I said, with all these mandates and the COVID tyranny and all their tyrannical policies they're pushing.
I mean, Biden the other day threatening, threatening the American people if they don't.
His patience is wearing thin.
Yeah, his patience is wearing thin.
Can you imagine him saying this?
But no, they're going to try.
They're going to try to push this as hard as they can, but we're going to push back and we will win.
