Chase Geiser is joined by Tony Shaffer and Matt Couch. In this episode we discuss everything from the future of the GOP to TPUSA's banning of Brandi Love from their recent event.
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| Nothing, not because they are easy, but because they are hot. | |
| Mr. Gorbach tear down this wall. | |
| A date which will live in infamy. | |
| I still have a dream. | |
| Good night and good luck. | |
| Good night. | |
| Hold me close at Tony Schaefer. | |
| Hey, Chase. | |
| Count the ballots on the highway. | |
| Boy, tell me about it. | |
| It's like uh one Seals and Croft's song uh uh about a highway about out in Arizona Free Highway. | |
| Crazy stuff. | |
| You know, I was very skeptical of the election fraud stuff. | |
| Um, you know, I thought that it was just kind of people like kind of wishful thinking, hoping, you know, every was sad that Trump lost. | |
| I was sad that Trump lost, and I was so skeptical about the election fraud stuff. | |
| And then we had the uh um the Fulton news this this week, and then that that that just that brief 12 seconds of that Arizona audit where he said that there were 74,243 or something like that ballots that they can't they have no record of having sent out, and I was like, whoa. | |
| Like so I told my whole position on the fraud thing totally flipped um this week. | |
| Well, I'm glad. | |
| So Chase, I appreciate your being open-minded. | |
| I mean, that's one of the things I've said. | |
| It's like I I you can be skeptical of what I say. | |
| Uh good, you should. | |
| Uh, but go check. | |
| Just go check. | |
| Just be open-minded enough to go do the the research. | |
| And as you know, since last time we spoke, and I've gotten a lot of press on this because a guy named Bill uh Bill McSwain has come forward. | |
| And very Bill Bargan. | |
| Very similar things, yeah. | |
| And so um but I have not spoken to Bill. | |
| I I've had zero contact with Bill or anybody uh who was directly involved in in that episode of what was going on. | |
| So um I again I I I understand people are skeptical, they should be. | |
| And um they should be also just at least willing to allow for a review of everything. | |
| And if everybody is so confident that Biden got 81 million votes, they should be the first to say, oh yeah, no, we're we're confident, go look. | |
| You're you're not gonna find anything. | |
| Unfortunately, I just don't see that for them right now. | |
| So right, yeah. | |
| You would think, and you know, it's funny because like on the one hand, you see that the left is incredibly critical of any sort of audit, and they immediately um cite that the audits, you know, are biased or you know, they just anything they can do to undermine the integrity of the audits, but in the same time, they they they launch like a January sixth sixth investigation committee that's stacked only full of of Democrats. | |
| So it's like what do you think? | |
| Like, what's that then? | |
| You know, and so I don't know, it's just it's it's like it's like having all of your exes, you know, responsible for defining your reputation. | |
| Like it's obviously a conflict of interest. | |
| Yeah, it turns out one of my my uh the the brothers of one of my exes works for for uh leader McConville, so let's not go down that path. | |
| I don't want to talk about it. | |
| Oh, okay, okay. | |
| Sorry, uh okay. | |
| Sorry, I didn't mean to bring it up. | |
| Just kidding. | |
| I'm just kidding. | |
| But no, I'm not I'm I'm not kidding. | |
| I'm kidding, but I'm not, but just saying, so you know, you know. | |
| But yeah, I couldn't believe um, you know, did you see that tweet that he made that leader? | |
| And I don't know what your feelings are about McConnell, so um I don't want to try into territory you're uncomfortable with, but did you see that tweet that you made? | |
| Everything's for a game. | |
| Chase, we agree everything is for a game, so feel free to ask questions. | |
| Yeah, so you know so um uh what do you think about that tweet that he posted the other day about hey, everybody needs to get vaccinated, otherwise things are gonna go back to the way they were last fall. | |
| I'm like, whoa, like you just need a vaccine if you want. | |
| So yeah, let me be clear. | |
| I mean, I I I'm not a scientist, I'm not a doctor, but I do recognize that the first answer is always any health concerns, go to your doctor. | |
| Just go to your doctor. | |
| Uh I think there's something called Obamacare. | |
| That's you know, everybody's supposed to be all medical insurance stuff now. | |
| So go go use the the Obamacare benefit and ask the doctor. | |
| Really, right? | |
| I mean, what's yeah, secondly, the FDA, every every variant of the COVID vaccine is not is still experimental. | |
| So um I refuse to take back in uh 2002 uh the anthrax vi the the anthrax vaccine before I deployed to Afghanistan because nobody was using anthrax. | |
| So it was kind of like uh, you know, I'm not anti-vaxx, it's just like I I don't need it. | |
| I'm not, you know, the chances of the Taliban developing a an anthrax virus capability within the next six weeks is not gonna happen. | |
| So I don't need it, thank you. | |
| And so my belief is if you don't need something, don't take it. | |
| Uh and in the case of the uh, and there there were side effects with the anthrax virus that were notable. | |
| I mean, people were developing enlarged hearts and dying. | |
| As a matter of fact, uh a CIA friend of mine, her husband died from an enlarged heart from taking uh the anthrax vaccine. | |
| So I was very skeptical uh of that. | |
| And I'm skeptical now of the vaccine by the fact that there are some reports of things not going well. | |
| So I I'm gonna trust science. | |
| I'm gonna let the FDA uh run its course uh till 22, 2022, the ends of trials. | |
| And I'll and unlike what Fauci says, it's not like oh, it's just it's just a it's just a minor technical issue. | |
| I I don't I can't believe uh a doctor of any credibility would say FDA trials are just a technicality. | |
| Uh I that's the first time I've ever heard of that. | |
| So let me ask you, Chase, why are they treating this vaccine so so much differently than everything else they've we've ever seen come down the pike? | |
| We didn't see this with uh any other flu vaccine that's come down ever that I've seen uh in the in modern history. | |
| Uh it's just like everybody is upset about getting everybody the poke on this. | |
| I I you know. | |
| Yeah, I well, maybe we should ask uh Professor Matt Couch. | |
| How are you doing, Matt? | |
| Hey Tony, how are you, sir? | |
| How are you doing? | |
| Are you good to see you? | |
| So I'm sure Matthews everything I guess know each other. | |
| We're gonna have a big car argument here, I'm sure. | |
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| We're gonna we're gonna be on opposite sides of the spectrum here, you know. | |
| Um, it's it it's amazing to me. | |
| I agree with everything you said, you know, Colonel, I agree with everything you said. | |
| It's it's amazing to me that you know the the Biden administration, big tech, the mainstream media, the liberals, even some of the rhinos, they all are pushing this variant, but yet no one is complaining about the southern border being wide open. | |
| You could drive tanks through it, semi-trucks at all points, uh hundreds of thousands of people a week pouring across, unvetted, unvaccinated, no problem there. | |
| But you know what, let's lock Americans down because this thing's dangerous. | |
| Right. | |
| It's it's insane. | |
| And and to carry that point on, this I don't I've never considered this a left or right issue. | |
| And I I actually don't. | |
| I've actually I got a question last night uh by another on another interview regarding the military. | |
| Why is the military refusing to take the vaccine? | |
| Well uh there's a couple of reasons. | |
| First, the military represents the healthiest uh demographic within our population, barring uh uh uh uh Olympic level athletes. | |
| Uh they're very fit. | |
| Uh as you I don't know if you've both been in the military or not, but if you have to if you're in the military, you have a physical fitness requirement. | |
| Every service has a certain level of of test you take at least once a year to pass. | |
| If you don't pass, you get kicked out. | |
| So the the military has very high standards. | |
| And one of the things I learned as a very young lieutenant is that the best defense against a biological agent, because back in the Cold War, we didn't know if the Russians would use a biological agent on us. | |
| The the best the best defense against a biological agent is health. | |
| Be healthy, have a strong immune system. | |
| So military guys are saying, hey, I got a strong immune system, I don't feel the need to take it. | |
| And secondly, regarding experimentation, uh a lot of people see the the current status of the drug, and don't take my comments as at bad as bad mouthing Donald Trump. | |
| It's just this operation warp speed, God bless him for pushing it hard. | |
| I want to see tell I want to see the criminal the the the clinical trials. | |
| I was about to say criminal trials, but that's the Dr. Fauci and the and the and the whole issue of Wuhan. | |
| But just saying, just saying, but but for the purposes of of our discussion regarding the COVID vaccine, I want to see what results after after a full year of study. | |
| I I don't know why that's I don't know why that's somehow uh revolutionary or radical and and wanting that to happen. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Well, I mentioned this on the show before uh myself, but I don't know if you guys know that I I'm a uh type A hemophiliac, so I have a bleeding disorder, which is why I wasn't in the military. | |
| And I don't know if you guys remember what happened to all the hemophiliacs in the 80s, but the drug companies knew that the medicine for hemophilia was contaminated with hepatitis and HIV and didn't tell any of the families for years, and they infected over 10,000 hemophiliacs, including children with HIV, and a lot of them died of AIDS, right? | |
| So this isn't this wouldn't be the first time that big pharma just sort of allowed for casualties to happen in the you know in the name of sort of selling a product or moving a product. | |
| And I don't know how the funding works for the vaccines. | |
| Like I don't know if they're already bought and paid for. | |
| I don't know if they make more money the more that they're consumed. | |
| I don't know how that works. | |
| So I can't make like a reasonable accusation that the only reason they're pushing the vaccines is because they're trying to make money off of them. | |
| That's where my head kind of goes. | |
| But um, you know, the big pharma doesn't seem to me particularly cares about uh healthcare so much as they do about um uh the bottom line, which is you know, that's fine. | |
| That's what a business does, but you you know, you have to navigate that in a in you know, a society, so that the safety and health, you know, are are the top priority rather than you know, just win. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| I mean, I think you have to look at you know, insulin, for example, you look at chemotherapy treatments. | |
| I mean, there's no the the cost is obviously. | |
| I mean, I used to run, believe it or not, medical clinics back in the day um as an administrator, but you know, had a had a strange career while always being in the media in some capacity, but you know, a syringe used to be about 74 cents a piece. | |
| Now, this was you know, I'm going back probably 10 years. | |
| Uh, you know, so we're giving 500 million doses to other countries. | |
| We can easily say that we've already just given 500 million dollars for this thing just in those doses, and then you throw in whatever it costs to manufacture the vaccine, the vaccine cost, shipping, it's gotta be a certain temperature, the formulation, somebody's gotta make it. | |
| Uh, we're talking billions and billions and billions with a B, but yet we don't see any relief from this administration or the government for people that are, you know, a lot of people have to choose between you know insulin and food as high as that drug is chemotherapy patients have you know uh have literally ruined and bankrupted many senior citizens because they can't afford the treatments and they're giving everything they can to stay alive. | |
| I just if we're able to do this for a vaccine that is basically from the numbers and what we see, and I've got a lot of doctors I've talked to that are local that don't uh you know it it's 50-50 right now with the doctors I've talked to on the vaccine. | |
| Some are for it, some are against it, some want to see more testing, more trials. | |
| I lean towards the you know guy that wants to see more testing, more trials. | |
| I think it's asinine that we're trying to push this off now. | |
| The main push is on children under the age of 18. | |
| Yeah, uh, when normally a child's vaccination, you know, a vaccine is gonna take four or five, six years in development. | |
| And I think that's the real scary thing here. | |
| If you're 18 and over, you know what? | |
| We uh we can do whatever we want at that point. | |
| You can vote, you can join the military. | |
| Uh, you know, you can do a lot of it, drive a car, you can do a lot of different things um by a cigar. | |
| But if you're under the age of 18, I think pushing anything on a on a population that can't make their own decisions um when it's this uh untested and unproven, I think that should be the real focal point. | |
| That's not a political like Tony, so that's not a political conversation. | |
| This is a common sense thing, guys. | |
| No, and this is what I resent about the current environment where simply stating fact becomes a revolutionary act by the fact that uh the other side has decided that they want to support and report on a political narrative, not on the truth. | |
| And I I don't know how to come combat that completely, other than just continue to say uh let's just follow, let's follow science. | |
| Let's let's listen to science, let's do things which are common sense. | |
| And the moment you you say that you become the the enemy of the state, and you're gonna be censored by the White House, apparently. | |
| I I saw that Lyft control banned. | |
| Yeah, it's like uh I like I like Mercola. | |
| I mean, I don't know him, but I mean I I used to drink it. | |
| I used to have his protein all the time, you know, he has protein you could buy on e on on Amazon. | |
| So um I just don't understand how the government can decide for you what's gonna happen and what not happen. | |
| And this goes to McConnell's uh issue regarding uh him saying uh like you either you you vax up or we're gonna put you back in masks. | |
| That sounds a lot like uh uh Nazi talk, like, hey, we're gonna send the gestapo out to make sure that we poke you, and if you don't like it, you know, you're gonna you're gonna suffer the consequences. | |
| Yeah, I I I personally chose to get the vaccine. | |
| I just am absolutely opposed. | |
| I'm absolutely opposed to them making anyone do it. | |
| Like I understand that it's risky. | |
| Like I just didn't think COVID was thrilling enough, so I wanted to, you know, go get go get a jab, something dangerous. | |
| Well, I I've been I've been around, and I think you both know this. | |
| I mentioned before I was around uh Bernie Carrick when he had it and Rudy Giuliani when he had it. | |
| And I saw him on a regular basis, and I didn't get it. | |
| Now I I believe I probably already had it. | |
| I think I probably had it at some past date in one of the early rounds of it before anybody knew it was around. | |
| I was in the back when you worked at the lab all the time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I didn't go to the lab, not that I can admit anyway. | |
| Just saying. | |
| So no, I always get this question. | |
| Have you been to ex countries like um not as Tony Schaefer? | |
| So, you know, so did you ever did you ever, yeah, it's Chris Stryker. | |
| Did you ever see uh I remember trouble? | |
| You're the one that said it, bro. | |
| That's how I know. | |
| So I don't know if you guys saw this. | |
| It's I I accidentally deleted these tweets from my Twitter account. | |
| Uh long uh uh but a few months ago, um there was this app that came out called Block NYT. | |
| Do you guys remember it kind of went viral? | |
| You could install it on your Twitter and it would automatically block everyone who'd ever written for the New York Times. | |
| Oh no, I didn't say that. | |
| Right. | |
| So I was like apparently one of the first guys ever to tweet a link to the website to use it, right? | |
| And it went fair, not my tweet, but the app itself went viral. | |
| And these journalists kept reaching out to me and saying, like, hey, we noticed you were the first person to tweet a link to this app. | |
| You noticed that you have a digital marketing company. | |
| Like, did you make the app? | |
| And I was like, No, I didn't make the app. | |
| No, I didn't. | |
| And they kept insisting that I developed this app secretly. | |
| And so I started saying I can neither confirm or deny whether or not I developed the app. | |
| And they they put an article on it in the Daily Dot, like basically saying, you know, Chase R Chase Geyser's an alt-right app developer, and you know, he made the block in my T and he's associated with Gab because at the time I had www.gab.com as my uh website in my Twitter profile. | |
| And they just like they ran this whole like article about how you know it's a conspiracy by Gab. | |
| And it was it was baloney, but it's just funny because you can just say I can neither confirm nor deny, and they'll just run with that as like a positive. | |
| It's like when you plead the fifth, and then everybody thinks you're guilty. | |
| Like bloodhounds. | |
| I mean, I've I you know, I think I've told Chase this before, Tony. | |
| If you would have told me five years ago that I would have been in Rolling Stone magazine four times, I would have been like, man, this is a pretty great life I'm living. | |
| Unfortunately, they've all been hit pieces. | |
| Uh no, the media is it's amazing. | |
| So it's it's kind of funny. | |
| You guys should mention this stuff. | |
| Back before I became a public figure, I used to actually get away with the telling people I was Harrison Ford's son. | |
| And uh and kind of actually like the moment you hit it. | |
| You know, it's like and I said, No, I'm only kidding. | |
| I said, Oh my god, you really need it. | |
| It's like the moment you stretch, it's like, no, I'm not really, I'm just kidding. | |
| You oh, you really are. | |
| It's like, uh okay, sure, sure. | |
| I am so yeah, they won't let me within 200 feet of an airplane. | |
| Always crashes. | |
| Yeah, it was a joke when I lived in California whenever we were driving, uh driving to uh the airport, and you see like a single engine plane flying, and you just always like, oh, I hope it's not Harrison. | |
| Yeah, well, at least he put it down safely, you know. | |
| I mean, you know, and then on a golf course, I think one time too, so that's good. | |
| Yeah, yeah, just who crashes a plane multiple times. | |
| I don't know. | |
| My grandfather had a pilot's license, and he uh forgot to put the landing gear down one time. | |
| He belly landed a plane. | |
| That was the last time he ever flew. | |
| Hey, look, uh Air Force guys did that with a C17 at Bogram. | |
| How you do that at Bogram? | |
| I don't know, but they actually put a C17 down on the runway at Bogram with no wheels down. | |
| I it's like uh boy, I I hope they got some retrain. | |
| I I don't know. | |
| I mean, you you gotta come in to Bogram on a combat approach, no doubt. | |
| I mean, you've got uh surface air missile uh threats because there's mountains all over and you can't cover everything. | |
| So you're coming in. | |
| I mean, you you come in on a combat approach. | |
| With that said, I think you need it's probably a good idea to put your wheels down when you land. | |
| I'm just you know, I'm not an Air Force guy, but I think it probably makes sense. | |
| And they decided not to. | |
| So I do want to ask you guys, let's let's just let's just say uh that the evidence can continues to mount about some voting issues in uh in these states over the course of the next several months. | |
| Um like even if the evidence is overwhelming, what's gonna is anything gonna happen? | |
| Do you want me to go first, Tony? | |
| Go ahead. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I guess I'll go. | |
| I mean, I'll just tell you. | |
| I mean, my take on it. | |
| I mean, I think it's gonna help as far as like what the state legislatures can do as far as putting regulations in place that actually Will you know make this to where it doesn't happen a second time around? | |
| Uh, you've already seen some things that have been passed in Michigan, Georgia, Nevada, and even Arizona with other legislators legislation has passed things to keep this from happening. | |
| They're passing them in Florida, Texas, and other states, Ohio. | |
| So I think you're gonna see that. | |
| Do I think they're gonna prove fraud? | |
| Probably so. | |
| Is it going to either are they gonna jerk Joe Biden off with a cane and push Donald Trump up on stage? | |
| Absolutely not. | |
| Um I think it's gonna be uh probably a sad time in our nation's history. | |
| Uh the media is obviously not going to cover it fairly, they never do. | |
| But I do believe that this is a for conservatives out there, uh this it should be a bipartisan issue. | |
| This shouldn't be a political issue, it should be an American issue of hey, I don't care what side you're on, I want my vote to count. | |
| Uh, and voter ID should be mandated. | |
| If you're against voter ID, you're against what America stands for, period. | |
| There's no reason for anyone to be against voter ID. | |
| Uh, and then the the bogus story that you need a Xerox copier to be able to vote is unbelievable, but honestly, nothing I don't think is going to change other than you're going to see more proof of election fraud, then you're going to see states make more regulations and changes. | |
| You're going to see the DOJ come in with that new 1,000 plus attorney civil rights division claiming in the name of racism that they're uh these these laws by these state senates are and state houses are basically uh racist. | |
| And there it's gonna be a fight, but I think the states in the ultimate if the judges do what they're supposed to do, in the end the state should win because the state should have control over that, like our constitution says. | |
| Uh I'll yield back to Tony, but I I just don't think I I think there's a lot of folks going around the country. | |
| I'm not going to name any names. | |
| You guys can figure it out. | |
| They're standing on stages and they're screaming that Donald Trump's going to be president in six, eight weeks. | |
| And I think it's setting our entire movement up for another massive letdown that they don't need uh mentally or spiritually. | |
| And I'll yield back. | |
| So Matt and I violently agree on that last point. | |
| I mean, there's uh real damage being done by certain folks who uh feel the need to make money more than be honest with the people who they're up on stage talking to. | |
| And I think it's very sad. | |
| Um I I'm not gonna be popular with what I'm gonna say, but it's it kind of echoes what Matt's saying. | |
| Uh HR1, uh the For the People Act, which I call the screw the people act, uh is poison. | |
| Uh that the federalization of the election system not only is it would cause huge uh and irrevocable damage to our ability to ensure one person, one vote, it's against the constitution. | |
| Uh Matt is right. | |
| I mean, we I'm a big 10th Amendment guy. | |
| I think all the states do need to maintain and uh secure their own elections. | |
| On this note, uh I've testified to a number of uh legislatures, including Texas, uh Georgia, South Carolina, um Pennsylvania several times. | |
| I just testified in front of Pennsylvania uh two months ago on this topic on the topic of secure elections. | |
| And I do believe that the states are gonna look at this seriously, especially this the Democrat, I'm sorry, the Republican controlled states that have Democrat strongholds because Georgia, Pennsylvania, uh uh are largely, I think, conservative. | |
| Georgia uh actually, you know, outside of Fulton, uh Fulton County, uh it's it's a red state. | |
| Same in Pennsylvania. | |
| Uh Philadelphia and Pittsburgh and a couple of other notable exceptions, it's all red. | |
| So I think they're gonna take very seriously the anomalies observed in those urban centers. | |
| But is what will the results be? | |
| I think the results will be uh an admonition of the people who broke the rules, but with DOJ being compromised. | |
| I I think we've all talked about my Bill Barr experience, and I don't think it's gotten any better since Bill Barr left. | |
| Uh I don't think it's they're gonna do anything seriously to rectify this. | |
| So it's gonna have to be uh a legislative driven thing in all the states that have concerns. | |
| So when you say that the DOJ is compromised, who buy? | |
| Yeah, I believe it's compromised to the Democrat Party. | |
| Let me be honest here. | |
| I um one of the things that was that what really under the radar uh was the the Clinton administration's forethought to in place through the federal bureaucracy a lot of uh people loyal to them. | |
| One of the things notable, and I think you all recognize you have political political appointees who go into an administration and basically rule the run the bureaucracy. | |
| Much more important, I would argue, are those who go in as professional uh employees, as civil servants who are essentially GS employees, GG employees, senior executives who work their way through and become a professional. | |
| Uh those folks stay there forever. | |
| And uh I believe people like Laura Lois Lerner was not an anomaly. | |
| She she was a young recruit, got into the bureaucracy, was very much loyal to a political cause, not the people of the United States. | |
| And if you put enough of those people in the system and you kind of encourage them to work their way up, you have a very loyal bureaucracy who responds to you and only you. | |
| And that's why I think we we see now a very defined two-tier justice system where you know you can have the uh 6th of January folks literally dogged by the FBI and Antifa, BLM, Hunter Biden, they all skate. | |
| So, you know, and and that's one of the things that again, it's not it's not you cannot miss it. | |
| You cannot miss the two-tier system. | |
| So that's why I think the system is so corrupt because they had they took the other the other political side, took the time to actually work their way, work into the bureaucracy, people who are partisans, not uh not uh professionals. | |
| So that may sound pretty much. | |
| Like an entry-level recruiting sort of effort in the 90s sort of manifest. | |
| You can be a GS 11 GS 12, a professional. | |
| I mean, when I came to Washington, I started as a GS9 as a military case officer. | |
| And uh look, how does Jamie Gorellick end up going from fat from DOD as a lawyer to Fannie Mae to run loans? | |
| How does that happen? | |
| How does it happen? | |
| Is she like some brilliant loan officer that should take over Fannie Mae and oversee? | |
| That's what I'm talking about. | |
| They they they tend to find people who are loyal to the their political cause, and they kind of see them through. | |
| And this includes people like James Comey, uh what's the whole cast there of characters? | |
| They were compromised by the fact that they felt more obligated to support a political cause than their oath of office to to protect and defend the constitution. | |
| That's my belief. | |
| So you ask, I I answer. | |
| So Matt, do you do you what do you think? | |
| I mean, I don't know if you agree with my thinking. | |
| No, I mean, I I think everything you're saying, I mean, I may go off a different rabbit hole here a little bit, but I mean, I think it's just you know, so many people in DC, and you know, Tony knows the landscape a lot better than I am. | |
| I've only been really fighting this battle hard the last five years, you know, from a full-time standpoint. | |
| He's been in the battle for decades. | |
| And so uh, but I feel like so many people, whether they're at the Pentagon, whether they're in a defense contractor position, you know, lots of guys in DC. | |
| Everybody you meet in DC is a defense contractor. | |
| If you don't do enough business out there, um, you know, that's a nice way of saying I don't want to tell you what agency I work for. | |
| And so, but the point is is they are promised things from higher ups from politicians, you know. | |
| It's like, hey, you know, stay this course, you know, because you know, you're gonna be in line for this position, and you're gonna be in, and so the majority of the people doing that, in my opinion, Tony can yeah, most of them have been on a democratic level. | |
| And so a lot of these, even generals, for example, you know, the reason why Trump shook things up so much, nobody wants to talk about this, is there were guys that were groomed, and Tony can speak to this way better than I can hear him do it. | |
| They were groomed these these positions, and then Trump comes in and he's like, you know what, uh, I like Bob, you know. | |
| Uh Bob worked with me, I was on a board with him. | |
| He was an exon for seven years. | |
| I'm gonna make Bob Secretary of State. | |
| I know it's Rex Tillerson, but my point is there were guys that expected to get hundreds, if not thousands of positions. | |
| And when Trump came in, he's like, nope, I like this guy. | |
| Nope, I want that guy. | |
| And he just took DC, it was like a like you're at a crap's table. | |
| He took the dice and just threw them blindfolded. | |
| And that's why he, in my opinion, Tony, that's why he pissed so many people off. | |
| And I'll I'll yield back. | |
| Well, dude, look the the Hillary Clinton uh national security uh staff in waiting was a thing called Beacon Global. | |
| You could look over there and see the list of names of people who were going to be brought into the administration. | |
| Everybody knew that it was their turn. | |
| Uh, Michelle Flynn Oy was going to be the Secretary of Defense. | |
| They had it all laid out. | |
| And so I think again, that's why you saw this massive resistance to Trump the moment he came in. | |
| And uh look, I'm I I Mike Flynn, I and I know this from talking to Mike directly. | |
| Mike was gonna go in because he got fired by Brennan and Clapper. | |
| He was gonna go in and flip the table over. | |
| He just didn't care. | |
| It's like, yeah, I'm gonna go mess up their their little voice club. | |
| And he was. | |
| And uh I think that was one of the reasons that they went after him first because they knew that their little uh uh reindeer game was going to be upset by Mike Flynn coming in saying, okay, you're gonna have to defend everything you're doing, you're gonna have to match uh budget to output to requirements. | |
| You're not gonna be able to just kind of go out there and do what you want, and that scared the death out of a lot of folks. | |
| So, how do you fix it though? | |
| I mean, that like the spoil system's been around in the United States ever since Andrew Jackson, you know, and I love Andrew Jackson, so no, I'm not ragging on him, but it's like this this whole buddy system doesn't really seem to be playing out very well in the long term, especially when you know we have an infrastructure in place uh for lack of a better term. | |
| I hate the word infrastructure is now a bad word, but we have infrastructure in place that um uh um doesn't really allow for a whole lot of accountability in terms of the deep state, right? | |
| Like whenever the FBI gets in trouble, they conduct an internal investigation, right? | |
| Right, it's like when an internal investigation bad here happened. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah, they're they're all they all like Tony said, they all turn the cheek and go, I man, I have no idea what these guys are talking about. | |
| And you know, look at Pelosi as an example in her husband. | |
| I mean, if if it was a high prominent, you know, Republican official, uh congressional or senate member who was doing what Nancy Pelosi's doing, and all of a sudden, every like literally there's multiple occasions to where right after there's been a government ruling, her husband's came out and bought millions of dollars of these stocks. | |
| If it was Kevin McCain, and I'm not a Kevin McCarthy fan, I don't even want to get on my tirade about that right now with the campaigns he donated to this week, but uh, but if it was any of these guys, you know, maybe it's a Thomas Massey or a Rand Paul, somebody who they really despise, uh, was doing what Pelosi was doing, and their wives were you know dropping half a million to a million dollar you know stock options every time they got out of a meeting about that kind of situation. | |
| Uh there'd be federal indictments. | |
| I don't have any doubt, Tony. | |
| I mean, I think they would already have you know, there would be DOJ investigations, it would be a mess. | |
| And I think that's what Tony's alluding to is it just it's it's so corrupt at so many levels. | |
| You know, they control the Department of Justice in a lot of facets, they control judges, they control uh clerks. | |
| It's not an easily fixable process, and unfortunately, uh, you know, we had some people in there, you know. | |
| Tony's been fighting by himself with other guys out there. | |
| There's a there's a few fighters, don't get me wrong, but it's he's you know, it just like Trump, you know, guys like Tony in DC have been outnumbered for two, two, three decades. | |
| This is a fight that's going to take years to fix, and it's not a simple fight, folks. | |
| It's it's it's gonna take a lot of work and a lot of getting the right people in the right places. | |
| I didn't I don't see a fit uh uh fix for it anytime soon, Tony and and Chase. | |
| I don't so yeah, so so Matt knows, and I said this at Matt's event a while back. | |
| There were three failings of President Trump. | |
| Uh and I'm just gonna lay them out. | |
| First, he he never understood the importance of the budget. | |
| Uh I think uh Kimberley Clasick rightfully tweeted yesterday, and I retweeted it. | |
| Uh the budget crisis is created by both sides. | |
| It's like, oh yeah, both sides have responsibility. | |
| You have a massive debt because both sides have just let it go. | |
| And for a handful of for only for a handful of people like Thomas Massey, Walter Jones, a handful of others are saying this is gonna kill us. | |
| We need to stop this. | |
| But you know, here we are, we're still spending our our and Trump never got control of it. | |
| Secondly, he should have got control, but just for the fact that all bureaucrats depend on their funding. | |
| And so if he had made the point, unless you do the policies I recommend you do, you're you're not gonna get your budget. | |
| He should have made that very clear. | |
| That's what the Democrats do, they're gonna cut you off with the knees, and you're gonna be, oh, you can have your fine agency, but you can't do anything. | |
| He never he he was never advised to do that. | |
| So that's mistake number one. | |
| Mistake number two, big media. | |
| He he talked about all the different uh oh my god, social media is this and the other, didn't do anything to to stop it. | |
| I know for a fact he was advised to do something and decided not to. | |
| And I don't why he didn't, I don't know. | |
| But now he's suing him, you know. | |
| I mean, yeah, it is yeah, it is what it is. | |
| So he he failed to do that. | |
| And And I'm just trying, you know, I'm gonna get in trouble for saying this, but it's the truth. | |
| Uh he didn't he didn't take aggressive action against the social media giants, and he was the first one to suffer. | |
| He's the first one they got, right? | |
| I mean, you know, well, sorry. | |
| So and the third area is what Matt was focused on is personnel. | |
| Uh policy is personnel. | |
| And so you're right. | |
| I I've gone to reenactments and uh reenactments at Antietham, where part of the reenactment was the corrupt uh uh contractors delivering uh bad food to the Union troops at the at the front. | |
| So we've seen corruption the entire history of the nation. | |
| It's you're not gonna get rid of it. | |
| You're not gonna get rid of people getting paid off. | |
| It's gonna happen still. | |
| So what you gotta do is is pick and choose your battles, and the way you do that in Washington is to pick the people who can get things done based on your agenda. | |
| Reagan was a master. | |
| So uh I was I had a sit-down years ago with John Lehman, secretary of the Navy, and um uh I I was admire and it's like John, how did you how did you get control of the Navy? | |
| Because you know, Navy's got a mind of its own. | |
| I said, How did you get how did you manage all of these big headed people? | |
| You know, he got rid of uh the father of the nuclear navy, uh Admiral um what's his name? | |
| Which was not an easy thing to do, because he was a he was a god. | |
| Uh I'll think of his name in a second. | |
| Um so I said, How did you do that? | |
| And John said, Well, I I basically recognized I can't fire people, so I said I basically figured out a list of folks who are going to oppose me, and I and I promoted them. | |
| It's like uh put he put him in a big building over in Roslin and said, You're too important to have to do work. | |
| You need to think big thoughts and do big things. | |
| So he got all these people who he knew were gonna be problems and put them in a room, like in a big building, gave them their own mission. | |
| It's like you go brief each other and let me know when you come up with ideas. | |
| So basically, yeah, no, it's great. | |
| It's like so you so basically he used the strength of the bureaucracy against the bureaucracy. | |
| It's like so you can do this, and he did it. | |
| He got control of the navy, fired people, you know, he got rid of people, and he was effective. | |
| So one of the things I do looking at at my standards, how I try to get things done, it's how effective are you? | |
| And this is one of my criticisms of the military military, we should probably talk about another day. | |
| The military has become completely uh focused on measures of performance, MOP. | |
| But okay, you perform these five things, you do well, you get a great evaluation, you get a medal, but were you effective? | |
| Did you do anything to actually win the war, beat the bad guys? | |
| Because during World War II was measures of performance. | |
| It's like, hey, did you go to the world? | |
| That famous scene in uh saving Private Ryan. | |
| Yeah, is it the objective to win the war? | |
| You know, and like they they were objecting to you know, doing this skirmish that was sort of voluntary. | |
| Are we trying to win the war or not? | |
| So this is where I judge people you're you're you know, not by the skin color, but do you know what the hell you're doing? | |
| Can you can you actually do the job you're supposed to do? | |
| I mean, it's like I'm I'm very ambivalent. | |
| I hate everybody who doesn't be able that doesn't know how to do their job. | |
| So yeah, I mean it's like it's pretty easy. | |
| Can you can you actually effing do your job or not? | |
| Can you do it or not? | |
| One thing I like about one thing I like about Joe Biden, though, is he's really shown how um to be semi-retired, you know, like the presidency really is a part-time job. | |
| Yeah, it is. | |
| I mean, you know, I I'm surprised he's not running around in shorts half the time trying to cut his own lawn. | |
| I I think he should, you know. | |
| I think if you he needs to step his game up a little, you know, let's throw on a throw on a polo and some shorts, start mowing the yard, you know. | |
| You know, with a six-pack of beer in the back, you know, kind of run right around the White House lawn, that'd be a great side. | |
| I want to see him like I want I want real pictures of him, you know, in shorts and a t-shirt, telling the White House you have to bring him a club sandwich while he's playing Mario Kart, you know. | |
| Okay. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So um uh you know you remember when uh uh Trump was president and uh the rioters set the guard house of the White House on fire. | |
| How wild would it have been if Trump would have walked out the front door of the White House with an AR, defend his own property? | |
| Don't don't tempt him. | |
| Look, I I was on told by John Kelly. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| Look, I was told by John Kelly once, because I wanted to see the presidents and stuff. | |
| And John Kelly looked at me this one event. | |
| He says, Tony, I'm not going to let you see the president because all you're going to do is inflame his instincts. | |
| At least he was honest with you. | |
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because it's really busy right now. | |
| Trump would have totally pulled a McCluskey. | |
| There's no doubt. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So do you think that this um do you think that these um uh election audit outcomes are going to set Trump up for success in 2024? | |
| I mean, because we we basically know he's gonna run, it seems like based on the reporting. | |
| And you know, I wanted him to run for Congress, not for the president this time, but you know, obviously I'm gonna support him regardless. | |
| But do you think that he's gonna be set up for success, or do you think he's gonna meet the same sort of resistance? | |
| I I think people are so pissed off right now. | |
| You know, uh, I travel around the country a lot. | |
| I know Tony does as well. | |
| Um, I just I'm telling you, like I I thought I'll be honest with you, two or three months ago, I would have said DeSantis is the best shot we have and take you the White House in 2024, and I would have stood with conviction by that statement and said, No, Trump needs to take a back seat. | |
| But with what I've seen coming out of Trump's you know campaign, the people he's got a few smarter folks around him now than he did back when he was in the White House, I believe, advisor-wise, they're getting a little more uh brazen, a little more ballsy, if you will. | |
| And I honestly believe that he is uh a hundred percent uh on a different level right now than even he was back in 2015 and 16 when he was running. | |
| Uh people are behind him. | |
| It doesn't matter where I go, people know what I do for a living. | |
| Uh people are you know, used to it would be like Tony can probably really they pull you aside and they would whisper and they go, Hey, hey, I like what you guys are doing, keep it up. | |
| Now I'll be in a restaurant, somebody from 25 feet away and go, Matt Couch, you know, keep kicking their teeth in, buddy. | |
| And I'm like, what the hell? | |
| You know, like people are mad. | |
| And I and I think Trump is seeing that. | |
| He knows that he's got a motivated base of tens of millions. | |
| He are, you know, we I mean, if you just go by their own numbers, he got 75 million votes, the most ever by an incumbent president. | |
| Um, and I promise, well, I say it shouldn't promise. | |
| If the Republicans have any stones whatsoever left in them, they will fight with everything in their being to not be locked down next year because I think that's the that's the goal. | |
| I mean, they they want to control the narrative with the with the lockdowns, they want to control the government, they want to control the voting, they want mail in voting. | |
| Um, I think if Georgia does what Georgia's gonna do and Vernon Jones becomes your governor, um, and I think if you know Whitmer is out in Michigan, which I think there's a real strong possibility of that with the candidates running up there, take the House and the Senate in 2022, which I believe will happen without even the fraudulent states that are under question right now, those seven metro areas. | |
| Um the GOP, it's it's up to the GOP, but they gotta fight for this. | |
| You know, uh Trump can't do it alone, but I believe he's got a chance to win, probably carry more votes than he did last time. | |
| Uh, because I've never seen people like I saw what it was like in 15 and 16, and even you know, leading up to the 2020 elections. | |
| People were you know, they were pulling you aside, you know, as you know, privately, Tony. | |
| But now, I mean, people aren't even hiding it. | |
| They're like, hey man, do you want to come over and you know speak in our church? | |
| You want to come over and speak at the you know the VFW club? | |
| And I'm like, man, guys, uh man, what happened to all the uh the the silent majority stuff? | |
| It's gone. | |
| I mean, they're mad, and I'll yield back and let Tony answer that question too. | |
| Yeah, no, I look um there's no doubt that there's buyer remorse. | |
| I still don't believe Joe Biden got all the votes that they say. | |
| I'm just I'm sorry, I just I just don't believe it. | |
| Uh he doesn't have the charisma of Obama or the uh the drive of Trump. | |
| He just doesn't. | |
| And I I just have a hard time believing it. | |
| With that said, the anger is real. | |
| Matt's picking up on it, and a lot of people felt feel that uh Biden is failing, uh, especially in demographics, which he said he would help. | |
| He's not. | |
| I mean, he's he wasn't gonna anyway. | |
| You know, everybody knew it, but I think people are really gonna wake up, especially blue collar. | |
| One of the things notable that I think is always missed, and I'm a populist in many ways, and this is one of them. | |
| It's like uh I love built built in America. | |
| I love stuff built in America. | |
| I think we should support American workers. | |
| Uh, I don't think it's a radical point of view, but things like killing the the uh XL Keystone uh pipeline. | |
| Uh that kills blue-collar jobs. | |
| I'm an environmental guy, I got an environmental degree. | |
| Matt, we know we talked about this at your events. | |
| Uh the best and most safe way to moving oil efficiently and safely is a it's a pipeline. | |
| You put it on rail, you put it on in containers and and vehicles, it's unsafe. | |
| There's you know, a number of videos online where you can see these big trains in cat Canada that that the something broke, and next thing you know, you're you're wiping out a town. | |
| That doesn't happen with pipes with with with the with dedicated uh timelines. | |
| So that's another area. | |
| And then the southwest border. | |
| Another area issue, the southwest border is cheap labor degrades the ability of you of union workers to get really good union jobs because why would anybody want to put a union guy on something and pay him a good wage when you can get you know somebody who's here illegally to take money under the table at like one quarter of the union guy? | |
| How is that helping the demographic of the Democrat Party? | |
| It's not so I've I you know one of the things we need to do. | |
| I've gone to Scranton, I've talked to people in Scratch. | |
| It's like that's where Biden's from, right? | |
| That's it's like Joe is not on your side. | |
| I'm just telling you, Joe is not on your side. | |
| He's not. | |
| I like how every town he goes to, he's from that town. | |
| Yeah, I know. | |
| But he really is not so. | |
| I'm just saying, but I'm just telling you that that we need to make an outreach to those folks, you know. | |
| I look, I I spent time with Tulsi Gabbard. | |
| I love Tulsi. | |
| I think Tulsi is is uh someone who feels more like we do than her side does because I I know she sincerely wants the best for people. | |
| She's wanted to do things which are more populist and Bernie like, you know, just saying, don't agree with those. | |
| But I know in her heart she wants to do the the right thing to help people. | |
| Yeah, and I don't believe for a minute that the the larger uh progressive democrat party progressives versus uh classic liberals, uh classic liberals I get along with. | |
| I love them. | |
| Progressives, I I don't, and I think that's what we need to do is reach out to those those traditional classical liberals who really do see uh do have the same concerns we do about the country and where it's going. | |
| We need to just we just need to make Democrats Democrats again, you know. | |
| So uh I'd like to go back to fighting the old way we used to fight. | |
| That's right. | |
| Right, arguing over tax rates instead of whether or not to impeach the opposition. | |
| So uh I don't Tony, I don't know if you got to see this. | |
| Uh Matt, I know you saw it, but I did a short video yesterday, and I don't know if I'm missing something. | |
| That's just a naive layman. | |
| But I looked at the the um hiring the job openings on the DNC website versus the job openings on the uh on the GOP website, and it is scary to see who the Dems are hiring for what positions compared to what the Republicans are doing. | |
| The Republicans have six openings on their website right now. | |
| One of them is an internship. | |
| Whereas if you go to the Democrat site, look and see who they're hiring, they've got entire teams dedicated to finance, dedicated to social issues, uh dedicated to digital strategy and branding. | |
| One of the things that's my pet peeve about the the Republican Party is that they don't emphasize branding uh on their candidates. | |
| And so it's like how how are we you know I'm I'm optimistic that the that the sentiment and the will is there among the people to make a difference in 2022 and 2024, but I'm very discouraged by what I'm seeing from the actual party itself. | |
| It doesn't seem like they um you know they they feel the fire. | |
| Too busy kicking out porn stars. | |
| Yeah, no kidding. | |
| Look, I yeah, I I've I've got a problem with that. | |
| I I'm not a big porn star person, but if someone is uh wants to be a conservative, you need to let them conservative. | |
| I don't think that's the right. | |
| Your name was Chris Stryker, man. | |
| There's no way you weren't a porn star. | |
| Tell me about that. | |
| No, I was my nickname. | |
| Stryker, I hardly know her. | |
| No, they said we would tell it's like, yeah, the guy with the porn star name, you know. | |
| So I agree with Tony. | |
| I've been I've been speaking with uh with Miss Love, you know, uh off and on the last two or three days, and you know, she's very smart. | |
| You know, the funny thing is is conservatives have this you know mindset that you know uh here's my take. | |
| Chase, do you want me to go into this? | |
| You know my stance, we've got it on the phone. | |
| I don't know what yeah, go into it, man. | |
| All right, all right nothing compliments on this show. | |
| Everything we've said is going to be banned anyway. | |
| I'll just say this. | |
| Yeah, I hope not. | |
| Uh I'll give you my channel if they ban you. | |
| You can have my channel, I don't care. | |
| You're gonna bring on strippers later, by the way. | |
| Just ask it. | |
| Yeah, if I have a way to get in touch with uh with Miss Love, I would totally have her on the podcast. | |
| If I got the full screen, if I have the full screen, Tony, I can push a button and then polls will come in on each side of me. | |
| It's pretty sweet. | |
| Look, I full disclosure, I know a few porn stars who remain under the radar who are just like us, they're conservatives. | |
| It's just they know most of them are, you know, believe it or not. | |
| Like I know Jenny. | |
| Well, yeah, because they're de-banked, they're all debanked. | |
| None of them can get like a regular bank account. | |
| These people are very individual rights. | |
| Our conservatives don't want to talk about that, but they are uh um, you know, they they literally are multi-millionaires, and you know, she her net worth is almost 10 million dollars. | |
| I love the fact that they were like, You're doing this just for a money grab. | |
| I'm like, no, she's not. | |
| You know, if she wants to make 150 grand, she's she can book a weekend. | |
| You know, I mean, she this is crazy. | |
| She she makes far more money than the majority of the people that were attending that event. | |
| Right. | |
| Uh, she's and throw her, throw her a little bit asked to get kicked out. | |
| No, throw away. | |
| The kicked out thing is how she's getting so much exposure. | |
| But what cracks me up is she's wearing a sun dress and heels, and and and there were literally conservatives talking about what she was wearing. | |
| I'm like, have you seen what the 19 to 25-year-old women are wearing that are at this conference? | |
| They're all wearing dresses shorter than hers. | |
| And and yeah, and they're and you're making this argument, but the whole thing is throw profession out the window. | |
| If you're gonna play the moral police, and I have friends I'm gonna bring up here, and I don't want to piss these guys off because they are powerful guys in our movement, but I'm gonna bring it up and use his analogy. | |
| Chase probably already knows where I'm going with this. | |
| You're gonna kick her out because she's a porn star and you don't like it from a moral compass, but yet at the same time, you're okay with Scott Pressler, you're okay with Rick Rennell. | |
| You're these same people were even pushing Caitlin Jenner for the governor of California. | |
| That whole crowd that runs with Charlie Kirk was pushing that. | |
| Oh man, I know a few people who don't aren't happy about Rick Renel, too. | |
| I'm just saying, oh, yeah. | |
| Oh no, you know, and I do I do too. | |
| And and but I'm just using it, you know, as an analogy. | |
| It's like, look, either everyone's included in this movement or they're not. | |
| It's a terrible precedent to make. | |
| Um, I have no problem with Rick or Scott. | |
| You know, what they do in the bedroom is none of my decisions. | |
| And and same thing, you know, with Caitlin Jenner. | |
| But so to me, for turning point, the purpose was you kicked her out based on her profession, but which is only because of a moral aptitude. | |
| So if you are doing that, then at the same time allowing if we're gonna talk about sin, you know, then you're allowing all these other people to be a part of it. | |
| It's just hypocritical, it's a horrible look for our party. | |
| It's gonna be used in the 2022 midterms. | |
| It's gonna it really is gonna be horrible because we already have we don't reach women well as a party, we don't reach suburban moms well, we don't reach minorities well. | |
| But you know what? | |
| Hey, what the hell? | |
| Let's exclude uh let's exclude folks. | |
| And I'll I'll yield back, but it's amazing how a group that kicked out a porn star could identify a porn star so quickly, you know. | |
| What exactly happened there? | |
| Like they just noticed that she was there and they asked her to leave. | |
| Like, how do you kick somebody out? | |
| Yeah, I mean, and and she didn't buy the cheap ticket, she bought the six hundred dollar VIP tickets. | |
| She bought two of them, she paid twelve hundred dollars for a tickets, her trip cost five thousand dollars. | |
| Then these idiots start accusing her of making money because she created a shirt that said I triggered Charlie Kirk, which I thought was hilarious, and she spent about 700 bucks on the shirts, and so but five grand on the trip. | |
| This is not a woman who needs money. | |
| I'll get off my soapbox, but I'm so pissed about it. | |
| That's ridiculous. | |
| Look, I'm I'm I'm in the second's profession, and morally, the things I've done uh would get me kicked out because I've done things that uh for our government, uh, you know, that are immortal that you know are considered kind of immoral. | |
| I don't know what to say. | |
| Uh, you know, uh uh in my profession, we kill people for a living, and I'm not trying to be over the top. | |
| It's kind of like that's it's kind of the bottom line of what we do. | |
| So I don't I don't need I don't want to be judged morally for the things I've done over my my career, nor do I believe that we should hold anybody to any standard uh other than what principles do they believe to be in the best interest of the American people? | |
| Do they want to be part of of something to help protect our interests as the American people? | |
| And are they sincere? | |
| That's it. | |
| I mean, and and she seems to be all of those things, so it really is disappointing to see that somehow uh and I don't know where this moral streak comes from because uh nine times out of ten, those who are most pious are the ones who are the most compromised regarding the sort of thing, at least that's my experience. | |
| No, I mean we accepted Donald Trump, but yet now we're mad about uh Randy Love, really. | |
| Is this is this is this what our party has become? | |
| I I I support Donald Trump, but he actually did sleep with a porn star. | |
| So it's like that was my argument with liberals when they tried to attack me about that. | |
| They're like, he slept with Stormy Daniels. | |
| Like, well, technically, there's really not proof of that, but if if you had to pay her not to brag about it, though. | |
| So go the dates are correct. | |
| Yeah, I'm and I'm giving the I'm giving the Don a big prop here. | |
| That's probably why he retweeted me 50 times because I was nice to him. | |
| But the point is when he if the numbers and the and the dates are right, you know, it wasn't like he was sleeping with Stormy Daniels now. | |
| He was TP sleeping with Stormy Daniels in her prime. | |
| There's not a guy in the water cooler that's gonna be less shameful. | |
| Yeah, so what? | |
| It's like so you know, it's like so what? | |
| Who cares? | |
| Good for him. | |
| Good good on you. | |
| Yeah, good on you, bro. | |
| Better blow jobs than no jobs. | |
| Yeah, like well, it's like they really think then that men around the country, you know, like real men, betas are gonna walk around and go, Hey, did you hear Trump slept with Stormy Daniels? | |
| Oh god, I can't vote for him now, Chase. | |
| I'm out. | |
| Well, you you guys saw my tweet the other day, probably about Kamala Harris, and I always talk about when she talks about jabs. | |
| We should look no further than Mary Mayor Willie Brown, yeah, to assess her ability uh regarding jabs. | |
| I'm just saying, I mean, right? | |
| 100%. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| That's um that's one thing that's just conveniently overlooked. | |
| And you you may you have to do some research to figure that one out because basically nobody covered it. | |
| No, no, I mean it's it's pretty obvious, and uh yeah, it's it's it's so hypocritical, you know. | |
| Um on on on both sides, but it's like he's right, you know, Tony's right about Willie Brown. | |
| You start looking into that thing, and it'll make you blush. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't look into that thing. | |
| Just saying. | |
| So good answer. | |
| So, how do we how do we how do we um how do we get the party to hustle? | |
| Like, how how do we put how do we uh put them to the coals, so to speak, in terms of like I I feel like the party as a whole, the leadership in place and the RNC itself, take for granted like the the donors that they get, all this stuff, like I have three answers, but that's not an okay sign. | |
| That's the number three for the kid sticks at home. | |
| Uh you know, that's how you make three, or we have since we were kids. | |
| Three answers, and I'll I'll make it quick because I've yeah, jumped up like a five-year-old had the answer here. | |
| Um, but literally, there's there's three answers, okay? | |
| Basically simple. | |
| Rona McDaniel, Mitt Romney's niece, has to go. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Kevin McCarthy, who literally donated to five of the ten people who voted to impeach Trump, the rhinos went into packs and gave them hundreds of thousands of dollars this week for the rhinos who voted to impeach Trump, who's who literally are turncoats, McCarthy has to go, and Mitch McConnell. | |
| You really want to change the party fundamentally, and you want to actually do this, and we're not just BSing ourselves. | |
| You know, Rona McDaniel, Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell are out. | |
| I don't know who you bring in to run the R, you know, run the RNC, but it's gotta be somebody strong. | |
| Rick Grinnell would be a choice for that, possibly. | |
| There's somebody like that uh that could do it. | |
| Um and then also as far as like you know, as far as the house goes, you know, obviously you've got a Lauren Beaubert, but I think Jim Jordan's more experienced. | |
| I'd put a Jim Jordan there as the leader of the house, then I would put a Rand Paul or somebody that actually has some testicular fortitude in the Senate. | |
| But if you don't if we win in 2022, gentlemen, and we don't change those three roles, it doesn't matter, I don't think. | |
| And I I'm I'll I'll shut up and let you guys you know converse about it. | |
| No, but no, so I I to finish the answer that I think you want to chase regarding um why the the RNC versus the DNC has such different uh job descriptions. | |
| Matt just said it, Rana, Ronna, what's her name? | |
| Uh the the nephew or niece, is it niece? | |
| Uh can we say niece or nephew? | |
| Is that permitted still? | |
| It may be both. | |
| I don't know. | |
| You know, you can't I want to be, you know, uh like you know, I don't want to get in trouble here, but whatever she is. | |
| Always welcome on the podcast to clarify. | |
| Yeah, ask her. | |
| Uh Chase ask her to that tell her that Colonel Shaper had a question, like I'll get her on and then I'll then I'll surprise her by bringing uh Brandy Love on. | |
| What are your pronouns? | |
| Tell us your pronouns. | |
| Anyway, she needs to go because she that's why Trump the Trump was the Republican Party until he left. | |
| Uh you know, I think I think at one point would be amazing. | |
| So the the party's got to get back together and and and Trump's got to recreate his organization. | |
| If he's gonna be the man, he's gotta be the man because uh the the Republican Party without his push is gonna be as feckless as we've seen, right? | |
| And they still gotta account for all this money they they they raised to uh to defend the vote, right? | |
| Or you know, go after all the corruption. | |
| We're to all go? | |
| 200 million dollars? | |
| There's something wrong with that. | |
| So, but you're right. | |
| We and the other thing, and this is where the three of us, I'd like us three to be in leadership positions because I can organize stuff. | |
| I almost said something, but I can organize things and get them done. | |
| And I think you need to have people like Matt who understand the demographic and the media. | |
| Chase, you have to have uh someone like you being a quarterback, kind of telling people where to go what to do and how to organize, and and and basically just find a way to modernize without offending people, like being Charlie Kirk, uh and and get together. | |
| No, I'm serious. | |
| It's like, what the hell? | |
| Are you thinking? | |
| I agree. | |
| You know, and by the way, why would Miss Love, she can make some big contributions? | |
| Just say it. | |
| Why would you alienate someone who could actually help your party for God's sake? | |
| She put out a great tweet that I retweeted a couple of days ago, and it was brilliant. | |
| And she said, you know, she said, you know, she said I she said they said I was there to because I wanted to get a younger, uh, younger college audience to someone something to that degree. | |
| And she said, I assure you, I reach more college and high school uh men than turning point could ever dream about in their in their company's history. | |
| I've seen them, yes, I've seen it. | |
| You know, so I mean I I I mean I know what her she's got a million followers on Twitter almost. | |
| I can't even imagine how many followers she has on the other sites, right? | |
| Yeah, I wouldn't. | |
| I think she should have seen it, yes. | |
| She had a lot. | |
| I I do follow her. | |
| I follow her on Twitter. | |
| I follow back the porn stars who follow me, and I do. | |
| I have. | |
| It's been my policy. | |
| Like the left attackman that's like, oh, you follow porn stars. | |
| Like, yeah, those who follow me, I follow them back. | |
| I I I'm a yeah, I I do not discriminate. | |
| So finally with brand, I I tweeted this today. | |
| I said, Finally, you know, because of what happened to uh Brandy Love, we can uh uh it gives conservatives an excuse to follow a porn star on Twitter. | |
| It's like, oh you know, it's just the turning point thing. | |
| That's I'm only here for a tweets. | |
| Yeah, I just I read the articles. | |
| It's like the old Playboy magazine. | |
| Articles are great. | |
| That guy won a pullzer back in 89, you know. | |
| Yeah, that's that's funny stuff. | |
| You know, I I just I think that the party party needs to shy away from the the moral dogmatism. | |
| I think that's part of the reason why so many young people um don't like the Republican Party today because of its association with um a lot of sort of the the dogmatism, you know, that was more rampant 20 years ago. | |
| We're still kind of branded as like this evangelical party, and though you know, evangelicals are an important part of the Republican Party and conservatism, and I'm not bashing that at all. | |
| But it the the party is more about freedom than anything else, and I wish that we would take we would take that brand, you know. | |
| It's and and really write with it, but you know, we're gonna have to have politicians that actually advocate for for policies of freedom. | |
| Well, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'm friends with Pastor Brian Gibson, one of my best friends in life and one of my business partners, and uh, you know, and when I started sticking up for Brandy Love, I went, Oh man, you know, because I mean, you know, I I you know he's my one of my mentors, and I you know, I I respect what he has to say. | |
| And literally, like first words out of his mouth is he's like, You're absolutely right to stand up for her. | |
| He's like, Can you imagine if we as Christians just started shunning people that we actually want to lead to Christ? | |
| Or that we said he said, How are we gonna mentor people to make them better conservatives to make them better people, better Christians? | |
| If we're like, you know what, you're not welcome here because of who you are or what you do. | |
| He's like, No, hell no, come on in. | |
| We'll teach you our way and see if you like it. | |
| It it's unbelievable that that was that was the mindset of of this group was to instead of including them to try to you know draw more people to the movement, they wanted to shun them, alienate them, humiliate them. | |
| Uh so when when big pastors like Gibbs, you know, Pastor Brian Gibson or like Matt, you Tony, Chase, you guys have the all are on the right mindset. | |
| This is not what we are as a party, it's not even who we are as Christians. | |
| We don't shun people like this. | |
| Uh so I I don't know what they're thinking, but it was a terrible move. | |
| Oh, I agree, and I'm with you. | |
| And I I I look, I'm doing I'm coming up on some talks uh next month. | |
| I'm gonna be doing, I know for a fact that a couple of uh porn stars are going to be there to attend, and it's not there, they're not theirs porn stars, they're there as conservatives. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| We have a big tent, we have a big tent, we should be uh bringing people in. | |
| And I'm sorry, if they can write checks, you should be trying to get them in. | |
| I'm just saying, you know, I mean let's be practical here, you know. | |
| It's like, hey, you want to be part of the tent? | |
| Come on in. | |
| But yeah, we should not be we should not be sit standing in some moral soapbox, uh trying to turn away people who want to be open. | |
| Who do you think is gonna draw more people on a stage to draw voters? | |
| Brandy Love or Chris Christie. | |
| Well, I've never seen I've never seen Chris Christie naked. | |
| Well, I wouldn't, I don't I I don't know if I want to talk about that. | |
| So yeah, I'm I'm kind of I'm gonna lean with uh Colonel Schaefer here. | |
| I really don't want to talk about that either. | |
| That's okay, Chase. | |
| I don't yeah, that that's fine. | |
| I've seen him on a beach. | |
| I've seen him on a beach. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| How was it? | |
| Well, you've seen the picture too. | |
| Was that back? | |
| Was that back when you were in it? | |
| Was that back when you were studying environmentalism and they it was like the No, no, no. | |
| I mean he went there. | |
| Remember they they shut down the Virginia and the North the uh Jersey Beaches and he showed up here on his Yeah. | |
| Yeah, they were talking about this. | |
| He's in the big lawn, the big beach lawn chair and got the hat. | |
| Yeah, that's it. | |
| That's it. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, I'll just I'll say it again, for your audience. | |
| I don't want to see myself naked, let alone Chris Christmas. | |
| So um you know, I'm just gonna just gonna clarify that for everyone out there. | |
| Wow. | |
| I will say I get in trouble. | |
| I put a full body massage uh chapter in my book, Operation Dark Art that got me in a lot of trouble. | |
| Just saying. | |
| I got yelled at by a two-star general over that that scene in my book. | |
| It was not familiar with that scene. | |
| I haven't read the book yet. | |
| I'd like to. | |
| Would you tell the story when you got a full body massage? | |
| I can't. | |
| It's it's the chapter where I figure out how to do Operation Dark Art. | |
| There's a there's a full body massage in the chapter. | |
| You'll like it. | |
| We need to uh that that should that should sell a hundred thousand more copies right there. | |
| Do you want you need to do is you need uh you need to commission Brandy Love to read the audiobook version of your book, Colonel. | |
| I'll I'll I'll talk to her about that. | |
| I'm trying to have one of my sales it would get stuck with her, so yeah. | |
| So we'll see. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| That's great. | |
| So thanks for coming on, guys. | |
| It's we're coming up. | |
| Yeah, it's been great. | |
| It's been great. | |
| Always a pleasure. | |
| It's fun. | |
| Thanks for having me on. | |
| This is great. | |
| You're always welcome on the show, Tony. | |
| Thank you. | |
| Always great to be all right, you guys. | |
| You guys take care. | |
| Take care. | |
| Talk to you soon. | |
| You guys, all right. | |
| Bye-bye. | |
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