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July 19, 2021 - One American - Chase Geiser
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Ryan Dawson | What's Really Going On? | OAP #34

Chase Geiser is joined by Ryan Dawson. Ryan Dawson is a Historian from the College of William & Mary with over 20 years of political activism in a variety of mediums: blogging, radio, books, film, and television. TV/radio Ryan Dawson has appeared multiple times on Russia Today, Press TV, Indus News, Sputnik, CNN Headline News, MSNBC, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, Al Jazeera, anti-war radio, Eddie Bravo Radio, George Galloway, Pat Buchanan, and a variety of radio shows and podcasts. Ryan on the Web Ryan Dawson is Webmaster and host for www.ANCreport.com which features podcasts on politics and economics with professionals from around the world. Also a forum for anti-neocons Over 3,000 youtube videos 81k subscribers and 30 million views. That is after being fully deleted 5 times. https://www.youtube.com/user/rys2sense  It was deleted Dec 2008. The New Channel was deleted  March 4th 2018 and again Feb 21 2019 However after pressure it was restored. It was deleted a final time Jan 28, 2021. Substitute host for the What Really Happened Radio show with Mike Rivero. Formerly Host of Geopolitics with Ryan Dawson on www.boilingfrogspost.com with FBI Whistle blower Sibel Edmonds Books Author of “Welcome to the USSA” and “The Separation of Business and State” also the co-author of, “Why Peace” Ryan Dawson Films: War by Deception Decades of Deception Neocolonialism in Africa The Empire Unmasked God is Not a Real Estate Agent, Trump’s Zionist ball & chain Syria: Israel’s invisible hand ‘The Jewish State’: How terrorists formed a nation The Parasite Cornpop’s Revenge EPISODE LINKS: Chase's Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/realchasegeiser Ryan's Website: https://www.ancreport.com

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The other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
A fate which will live in infamy.
I still have a dream.
Good night and good luck.
chase geiser
What's up?
How you doing?
Mr. Ryan Dawson on the show today.
How are you doing, dude?
ryan dawson
I'm good, man.
Very good indeed.
chase geiser
I found you on The Four Horsemen this past week with Reed Coverdale.
And I thought, holy shit, I have to talk to that guy.
I had no idea who you were.
And it turns out you're infamous.
ryan dawson
That was our fifth installment of The Four Horsemen.
chase geiser
Yeah, it was absolutely hysterical.
So are you going to be a regular every week on that show?
ryan dawson
Yeah, I'm Ric Flair.
unidentified
So like I'm the staple.
chase geiser
Yeah, absolutely.
ryan dawson
It's only Reed's show because I'm not allowed to have a show anymore.
I had 81,000 followers.
It's just gone.
chase geiser
So let me just run through every platform I can think of and just tell me whether or not you're banned.
Okay.
ryan dawson
Sure.
chase geiser
Facebook.
ryan dawson
Yes.
Yes.
chase geiser
Twitter.
ryan dawson
Yes.
chase geiser
YouTube.
unidentified
Yes.
chase geiser
Venmo.
ryan dawson
Yes, because that's part of PayPal and I'm banned on PayPal too.
chase geiser
Coinbase.
ryan dawson
Yes.
chase geiser
Where aren't you banned?
ryan dawson
I'm also banned on Instagram and Vimeo and Gumroad and Streamlabs and Stream Elements and Patreon.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
So what'd you do to get banned?
ryan dawson
Criticize Israel.
chase geiser
So it was all related to Israeli.
ryan dawson
Set up for Palestine.
I had videos with edgy titles like Palestinians are people too.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
And that's that pissed off the ADL.
They hate me because I'm one of these people criticizing Israel that they can't just label a racist lunatic or whatever or anti-Semitic and point out what they do.
And I don't just limit it to Palestine.
I showed their role in Iraq, Syria, Libya, you know, stealing nuclear weapons from the United States, all the nasty things they do.
chase geiser
So obviously you've made a ton of content over a bajillion years, 20 years basically, since you started making documentaries and doing research into various conspiracies or deep state.
I don't even want to use the term conspiracy because it's got such a connotation with it, but conspiracy in the genuine sense.
ryan dawson
There's nothing wrong with conspiracy.
I mean, there's a lot of stupid ones.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
Obviously.
But like I have a movie about conspiracies.
And for example, what's the difference between a conspiracy and a covert operation?
Nothing.
Just how you label it.
Right.
What was Iran-Contra?
People got convicted for conspiracy.
It was a conspiracy.
We told the entire public we were not aiding the Contras, and yet we were.
And the whole government lied and the whole media lied.
And then, you know, a plane crashed full of weapons in Nicaragua and the whole story fell apart.
You know, the Hunter laptop thing that they tried to claim that was a Russian conspiracy and it wasn't.
It is Hunter's laptop.
But it's a conspiracy in the sense that they got like 12 prominent officials in the Trump administration and FBI to all lie and say it was Russian disinformation when it wasn't.
And the entire mass media, save a few people on Fox News, went along with it.
That's conspiracy.
Happened recently.
And there's no doubt that that is his laptop now.
And the FBI had that since December of 2019 and said nothing.
It wasn't until Giuliani got a copy of it and started leaking it online or whatever that they were even forced to address it.
chase geiser
Do you think that's the reality?
ryan dawson
Here's a guy legally making deals with the Communist Party in China and mafia figures in Ukraine and Romania and all these illegal activities, which also involve Biden's brother and Joe Biden himself.
And they're just like, nah, don't, it's just Russia.
Russian conspiracy.
So it's funny because some of the sometimes conspiracies by the media are just a smokescreen for their own illegal activities, which then is a conspiracy because you're involving the heads, all the mass media outlets all reported that, you know, Benghazi was because they were mad over a YouTube video.
Bullshit.
They all said Assad gassed his own people when he didn't.
They said the Russians poisoned Litvininka with polonium.
That's not what happened.
So plenty of things that have happened in our lifetime just in the 2000s have all been conspiracies and been proven.
So it shouldn't be a tainted word.
And even when you get into something like September 11th or the Kennedy assassinations, there are definitely, I'd say 98 to 99% of the conspiracies that are widely disseminated about those events are just utter crap.
But I would say that some of that's intentional.
Like Donald Rumsfeld allegedly slipped about saying 93 Flight 93 was shot down.
It wasn't.
It was taken down by the passengers, but he was helping feed into conspiracies that were taking people off to what I call the path to nowhere, dog chasing his tail.
And that's what happens.
Like if somebody who wasn't alive when 9-11 happened tried to figure it out, it would be impossible because there's so many kook theories out there that you'd waste years going through all that baloney.
Same thing with Kennedy.
You will never figure out what happened to John Kennedy because of the just the plethora of dog shit kook theories out there that, you know, it would take you 20 years to get to the truth.
chase geiser
What do you think happened to him?
ryan dawson
What, Kennedy?
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Israel had him killed because he was inspecting them for nuclear weapons.
chase geiser
Really?
You think it was Israel?
ryan dawson
I know it was.
I know all the shooters, everything.
Same with RFK.
Thane Caesar shot RFK.
chase geiser
So this whole time we've been arguing about whether or not it was the mob or the deep state and it was Israel?
ryan dawson
Well, it is the mob, but Israel works with the mob and so does the CIA.
chase geiser
So do you think all this covert, sort of unjust crap really started happening when we had, like when we developed a robust intelligence community?
Because if you look at the fall of Rome, they didn't have like a deep state.
They just sucked at the end.
You know, they weakened their currency.
They had weak leaders, you know, but it wasn't like there was any covert shit going on.
I guess the extent of the deep state would have been stabbing Caesar in the back 47 times, but that was, you know, that was very public.
ryan dawson
They lasted almost a thousand years.
So I mean, you can't just win indefinitely.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
And they made a lot of mistakes over expansion.
I don't like these like, oh, we're not, oh, we're just like Rome.
We're not.
Those are very detailed, complex things, and it's nothing like that today.
And no empire is going to last a thousand years ever again.
Just can't stay on top that long.
chase geiser
How much longer do you think the United States has?
ryan dawson
Hard to say.
I mean, militarily, there's quite a gap.
And the U.S. has a large market, but they are doing everything they can to destroy it.
I'm hoping for secession.
Because the U.S. died in 1861 with Lincoln.
It was no longer America anymore.
All the rhetoric we hear about liberty and all that and minimal government, that died with Lincoln.
He started the income tax.
He started a war that killed a million people.
And that was just the birthplace of crony capitalism where they married state and corporation together.
Railroads, steel foundries, lumber mills, they all were getting subsidized by government.
And once you do that, it's almost impossible to undo it.
You see that all over Africa and Latin America too, where the level of domestic corruption is so thick and greasing palms has just been the way for so long.
It's really irreversible.
And so our first fall off the cliff was Lincoln.
And the second was LBJ when they killed Kennedy.
We're not even working in American imperial interest anymore.
We're working for Israeli imperial interest.
chase geiser
And what's the incentive for the United States to be so supportive of Israel?
Like the traditional understanding of why that is, because Israel's a key strategic partner in the Middle East.
What would you say is the real incentive?
ryan dawson
They thought a strategic partner that they were not involved in either of the Gulf Wars because it would have alienated all of our Arab allies.
No, it's simple.
We kowtow to Israel because they bribe and blackmail the people that write the laws.
And the media has been captured by Zionists.
chase geiser
So you think that's a lot of intelligence literally has Congress like under the thumb?
ryan dawson
Well, there's a religious affiliation for about 33% of people, these holy roller Christian types that think, you know, we have to build a third temple on the mount for Jesus to come back or whatever.
unidentified
But right.
ryan dawson
It's they're more familiar with Judaism than they are Islam.
And basic bitches think in terms like this, like the Muslims, the Jews.
That's not how it is, but that's how it's perceived.
And they just pick a team.
And since three-fourths of the Bible is the Old Testament, and they're more familiar with the Jew team or whatever, they just side with that unthinkingly.
They don't see all the kids getting murdered and houses being demolished, annexation of land, or whatever.
A lot of these people don't even know that Israel was created in the 40s.
They think it's existed since biblical times.
There was never an Israel until 1948.
There were Israelites, which is a bloodline from Hebrews scattered.
chase geiser
Just to clarify, you wouldn't, and correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't define yourself as anti-Semitic, just anti-Israel.
Is that right?
I want to make sure that's distinguished.
ryan dawson
I don't even believe Jews are a race.
It's a religion.
And I'm not a bigot either.
Yeah, I mean, Israel and it's if Israel would change everything it was doing, I wouldn't be anti-Israel either.
But I mean, I'm anti-any state that colonizes its neighbors.
unidentified
Why not?
ryan dawson
You know, it's like, you know, I'm not anti-white, but I was anti-Nazi because of their behaviors.
But it wasn't because of their biology.
It's because of what they're doing.
You know, and it's not because of their biology, their religion, or any of that.
It's just some identitarian nonsense to defend the indefensible.
They are annexing territory.
They have a blockade on Gaza.
They have bulldozers smashing privately held property to give to the self-proclaimed chosen race of God.
They have snipers shooting people in the balls and the eyes and the knees for trophies.
unidentified
Fuck that place.
ryan dawson
I don't like Saudi Arabia either.
It has nothing to do with its Arabness.
It's run by a fanatical religious monarchy of Salafist Wahhabis that are just rigidly anti-anybody that isn't them and finance terrorism all over the world and cause nothing but problems.
I don't like North Korea either.
It has nothing to do with its Asianness or Koreanness.
It's a communist shithole.
I don't know what's so hard about that, but the canard about conflating criticism of Israel with criticism of Jews or Judaism in general is something that just gets used because it works.
Especially people on the left are so excited about having a witch to burn.
Like they need there to be racists and bigots because it feels so good to condemn it that they're willing to believe it without even looking at the evidence because they want to pat themselves on the back for condemning racism or sexism or whatever it is.
And you'll see that too with movements like Believe All Women.
Like, well, let's believe all evidence.
Obviously, you want to condemn rape.
It feels good to bash on a rapist, right?
But what if they didn't do it?
Which looks like the case of Bill Cosby might be innocent.
chase geiser
You think he was innocent, or do you think that they just couldn't, they wrongly convicted him?
Because there's a difference, you know.
ryan dawson
Both.
chase geiser
You don't think he did it to any of those girls?
ryan dawson
There's no evidence that he did it to any of the girls.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
What he admitted to is giving qualities to somebody he was already consensually having sex with in the 70s.
And they use that to say, see, you give drugs to girls.
He gave drugs to a girl who asked him to because it was a party drug and they were already fucking each other.
And they had some celebrity.
I mean, the DA was lost a rate.
The judge lost the race against one of Cosby's lawyers.
I mean, it was, it's ridiculous.
Should have been thrown out.
And it's not a technicality.
Be like, oh, yeah, we didn't uphold your Fifth Amendment right.
That's a big deal.
And it was shocking, like, oh, America's TV dad and all that.
And I kind of just accepted it without question because there were so many accusers.
But often you can get when it's a celebrity type person, they did this to Michael Jackson, too.
Everyone's like, oh, yeah, I met that guy one time.
Add me to it.
Because usually these people have so much money that they'll just settle to make it go away.
So anybody that pals on will get a nice paycheck.
And yeah, they're vultures, man.
And he could have, he could have settled and not spent a day in jail.
And he even had it offered to reduce to like a misdemeanor or something.
And he's like, no, maintain his innocence.
Knowing that, yeah, I don't think he did it.
I really don't.
chase geiser
Plea deals are pretty, pretty ugly.
I don't think they should even be legal.
I don't think you should incentivize it.
ryan dawson
And even if I thought he did it, you got to prove it.
Oh, I think you did it.
Where's the evidence?
There's Reed.
unidentified
Yo.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Reed, thanks for coming on, man.
unidentified
I don't have the same name as Ryan, but he's upped it.
And I like that.
That's pretty edgy riot.
ryan dawson
Yeah, BLM three-fifths better.
I highlight that because that actually happened in history.
unidentified
Right.
ryan dawson
The three-fifths compromise.
They want to count him in the census, but they don't want to let him vote.
Right.
Fucking crazy stuff that's happening in our country.
But that was Henry Clay.
All right.
That's what they're going to give it.
chase geiser
You got a big show going on tonight with Clinton from Liberty Lockdown, huh?
You doing it live in the studio at midnight?
unidentified
Well, yeah, he's supposed to get here in like an hour and a half, and then we're going to do it in person.
I've never met him in person yet, so it'll be the first time.
But we're going to Freedom Fest in South Dakota in a couple days.
So we'll be heading out tomorrow, heading that way.
ryan dawson
He gave me this chair.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Hell of a guy.
unidentified
Yeah, he's pretty.
I had him falling out of his chair the other day.
Yeah, and it's all falling out of our chairs.
chase geiser
Me too, man.
And I wasn't even screaming.
unidentified
I was just watching.
chase geiser
I watched that two and a half minute video probably five, six times.
ryan dawson
Well, I think I'd said in that stream, sometimes I get people laughing and I'm not even trying to be funny, but hearing the truth is such a catharsis because you're so used to people feeding you bullshit that when someone just bluntly, frankly says what you know anyway, but wow, someone's saying it.
It's such a relief that you start laughing because you can't believe somebody's being a real person because you're in this medium of talking heads.
You're just used to being lied to.
And when someone says the obvious, you know, about like George Fentanyl and stuff, we've got Ashley Babbitt, who was a Air Force veteran, right?
A mother and a wife.
And she was there to protest election fraud unarmed and they shot her dead.
Then you got George Fentanahl, who was about to drive a car while he was high out of his mind, who pulled a gun out on a pregnant woman, routinely in B ⁇ E and drug crimes and counterfeit money and just a career criminal's whole life.
They built a statue for that piece of shit.
And they say Ashley Babbitt deserved to die.
Think how fucking backwards that is.
Ashley Babbitt did not deserve to die and they don't even let you know who the shooter was.
They protect his identity.
Whereas Derek Chauvin, he's a fucking Klansman racist.
And there was no evidence that race was involved in George Fentanah's murder.
Just it's a black guy and a white guy was kneeling on him.
So it has to be racism, even though the other cops were of color or whatever.
It had to be racism because that fits their worldview.
And as I was saying, they need a witch to burn.
Even in the trial, race didn't come up at all.
And you know where they learned that Tatric of kneeling on people's necks or their upper back from the Israelis.
That state doesn't even have a police academy anymore.
Maybe we should bring back the police academy.
Maybe that's why they suck.
Why are we getting trained by the IDF?
Oh, yeah.
Because it's just another contract for the Israelis.
Like, yeah, come over and train our police.
We don't know how our police force is older than the state of Israel.
But yeah, we're going to go to the IDF and they're cravma crap.
You know, they can barely arrest unarmed Palestinian adolescents.
But, you know, we're going to learn from these guys how to subdue criminals.
The motherfucker wouldn't get in the car.
He laid on the asphalt and was screaming like a baby.
Hey, can't breathe.
If you can yell, you can breathe because you try to talk when you can't breathe.
You can't do it.
And you definitely can't scream.
unidentified
I can't breathe.
ryan dawson
I can't breathe.
You can breathe because you're talking.
He had a heart attack.
And I don't think it, I don't like cops.
I don't think there's any reason to sit on somebody for eight or nine minutes.
He's already in handcuffs and stuff.
Just sit him up on his butt and start de-escalating, talk him down, whatever.
But there was no evidence of racism, much less systemic racism, because some criminal thug high out of his mind died of a drug overdose and had a panic attack.
But he's a hero, you know.
They built his statue, even and they built him a mural, although, like, two days later, lightning struck it down.
But then they moved, removed the statues of Robert E. Lee, Lewis and Clark, and Sacagawea all insane.
chase geiser
Like, what Lewis and Clark really do, you know?
ryan dawson
Yeah, they didn't do anything.
Sacagawea didn't do nothing, they don't deserve it.
They didn't rob any stores or do counterfeit money.
So, why do they got statues?
Like, if they need to be pistol-whipping pregnant ladies, that's how you get a statue as far as I know.
They never did that, so yeah, they weren't selling narcotics and they weren't making porn videos.
unidentified
So, yeah, yeah.
ryan dawson
I mean, the other thing I don't think without a statue, Sacagawea, anyone would know what she looked like or heard of her.
I mean, like she was on the dollar coin, and this is what's hilarious.
They stopped making the situation.
chase geiser
That looks exactly like Elizabeth Warren.
ryan dawson
I heard well, they got rid of it.
unidentified
It's the high cheekbones, yeah, yeah, exactly.
ryan dawson
They got rid of the Sacagawea dollar because of all the counterfeit that was they were making counterfeit Sacagawea coins in Brazil and stuff.
So, counterfeiting got rid of the Sacagawea coin, the only coin with the Native American, one of the one of the only coins with a female, and it was scrapped due to counterfeit.
George Floyd was a counterfeiter.
It's like, yeah, they just want to take down all statues.
I tell you, Washington, Jefferson, all of them, none of them are safe.
These people hate the United States, they hate America.
It's a bunch of communists, and they won't admit that.
They're like, Oh, yeah, this person wasn't uh perfect according to today's Morias.
chase geiser
Well, it's funny because you see, like, um, you see people like us who are critical of the United States, and I don't want to speak for you two, but for me, my criticism of the United States comes out of like a deep love for what America is supposed to stand for, right?
And, but on the other side, it's like the criticism of the United States comes from a position from a place of hate out of what the United States is supposed to stand for.
It's supposed to be like this, you know, liberty, self-actualization, individual rights.
You know, I don't want to use the term utopia because it was never meant to be perfect or thought that it would be perfect, but it's supposed to be this great experiment on liberty.
ryan dawson
It sure was better than 95% of people living as serfs, exactly.
unidentified
You know, what's funny is what you guys were just talking about: how we, you know, these people try to put present-day morals on people from 200 years ago.
They don't put present-day morals on Joe Biden.
You know, it's like this guy, you know, he's like the architect of the war on drugs and massive prison sentencing and horrible criminal justice.
But you're putting these, you know, you're putting these judgments on George Washington, who's been dead for a long time.
But the guy that you voted for for president and continued to defend, you're not willing to put modern-day standards on him.
ryan dawson
That's kind of he doesn't want his kids going to a racial jungle.
That was probably good for all the people of color because who wants to go to a school with Hunter Biden selling crap?
chase geiser
Yeah, he would have made the crack epidemic way worse if he would have gone to an interracial school.
ryan dawson
No, Reed is right.
Where are the morals, today's morals, or even the morals of 200 years ago, aren't even applied on the mosques we have today.
Joe Biden made slavery great again in 2011 when they invaded Libya and just handed the country over to Al-Qaeda.
He's creating and abetting religious fanatics proxy war in Syria.
He was sanctions on Iraq that killed 800,000 kids.
I mean, that was all Democrats.
unidentified
Wasn't he a little more hesitant?
Like, he didn't like going into Libya, right?
Joe Biden, like, Hillary really wanted to do it, and he was kind of arguing against it a little bit.
Is that true?
ryan dawson
Or I think Obama was reluctant.
Biden just does what he's told.
unidentified
Right.
chase geiser
That's too much.
He started shelling him.
ryan dawson
Gaddafi was charged with three crimes, right?
God, these people steal.
So Nancy Pelosi has been caught twice in multi-million dollar insider trading gambits just this year.
Her and her husband.
Nothing happens.
Nothing happens.
The Hunter thing and James Biden and Frank Biden.
These are mafia families.
unidentified
Working on Brian, what was wrong?
ryan dawson
Have you not seen it?
Holy shit.
chase geiser
No, I've been too scared to dig it up because I don't want to turn up on my hard drive.
ryan dawson
It's mostly Hunter walking around naked and banging prostitutes and doing drugs, but he also is admitting to crimes.
And then there's emails where they're just openly admitting, you know, how much for pay to play.
Name a place.
I made a movie called Corn Pop's Revenge that went over.
a good chunk of their crimes, but I never even gotten to the laptop because I'm like, you can't even, you can't even show four seconds of it without, you know, wang or butthole or something on the screen.
So, but it was leaked on BitChute.
Just, yeah, you might not want that on your computer.
The FBI will come nab you for kiddie porn, but not the guy in the video.
It's hard to tell, but yeah, I mean, you know, when you see it, and it sure did look like it, yeah.
unidentified
So, Ryan, how do you clear your brain out from all the shit you have to look at all the time?
What do you do?
Do you meditate or anything or just scream at people?
Or what's your secret?
ryan dawson
Jack Dangles.
No.
I'm lucky to have a really awesome wife and kids that keep me grounded.
And martial arts helps me a lot because I'd be in jail if not for that.
For real.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
And I actually only drink to celebrate.
You notice anytime some neocon dies or something, that's when I have a few shots.
I take three shots, just like Rittenhouse.
And then I have another three.
Dropping comments.
unidentified
He's going to get acquitted.
ryan dawson
He better.
I don't know how you could get a more clear case of self-defense on film from multiple angles.
It was like better than a movie.
There's so much footage of his innocence.
The first guy he dropped, Joseph Rosenbaum, who's white.
You know, Rosenbaum.
You're white when you commit a crime.
He went to jail for 13 years for raping kids.
I mean, fuck that guy.
He's a little five foot three manlet.
Yeah, he chasing a minor.
He's a little five foot three mainlet.
It's all shoot me, nibbles.
And tried to grab a gun.
He threw like a bag at him.
I'm like, oh, yeah, that'll work.
Useless, man.
He thought.
chase geiser
I don't think I would, even if I hated somebody, I don't think I would chase them if they were carrying an AR and I wasn't carrying anything.
Well, I had a diversity with a rifle.
ryan dawson
I was like, I was like, I was a little shot at him and he'd been chasing him around.
He's like, you're not going to shoot me.
You're not going to shoot me.
He's like, I'm not until I feel threatened.
But as soon as you get within, as soon as you actually touch me or my gun, I am going to shoot you.
And he did in the nuts, which is precision aim.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
To hit that guy in the balls.
chase geiser
Aim small and this small.
ryan dawson
Because that's like, I mean, he had to be dead center.
That's smaller than the bullet.
He got him.
chase geiser
So did your interest in all the conspiracy stuff really start with 9-11?
Is that where this all began for you, Ryan?
ryan dawson
Started when I was 10 years old watching the Surputer film in fifth grade.
Which film?
JFK getting shot in his limo.
And I realized, like one time, I forget was 1985 or something, six.
It was Hurricane Gloria.
And my dad stayed on the island and we went up to my grandparents.
We were going to visit them anyways.
We were like, well, let's go early and avoid this hurricane.
And on the news, they showed his property and it was like knee-deep water.
And we're all freaking out.
It's because the news anchor just got on their knees in ankle deep water, right?
To make it more dramatic.
And I realized they just flat out staged shit.
And no one on the island sees it because there's no electricity because there was a hurricane.
So none of them saw it.
But people in like Virginia and stuff saw it.
And we saw it.
And we get contact of my dad and say, is there like two and a half feet of water?
unidentified
And no, not at all.
ryan dawson
I mean, there's a little bit of water in the parking lot, which is exactly where they were filming.
The guy's getting on his knees and make it look like he's that deep.
And I realized that news crews and stuff just straight up fake stories for the now.
Y'all call it clickbait.
There's no clicking back then, but you know, for the ratings or whatever.
I'm like, they just lied.
Like everybody on TV lied.
And you'd see that over and over again.
They come and find the biggest dumbass to interview about a particular issue when myself and others had given them long interviews and articulated the problems.
And they just cut all that and find somebody.
unidentified
Well, I don't know, man.
ryan dawson
You just something stupid.
I'm like, who is that guy?
That guy doesn't even live here.
And they would say they're on our island interviewing somebody and they weren't.
They just interviewed an actor or I don't know, who knows?
But they would just make shit up.
So I had a large distrust for television and the government.
I'd seen what environmental groups did and how disingenuous they were.
It had nothing to do with environment.
It was just, you know, it's kind of like the people donating to them and stuff want to save the birds or the whatever.
But the group itself is in it for power to manipulate land for real estate and other reasons, right?
unidentified
And they harm the environment more than they harm the environment.
ryan dawson
And it's just a theme.
It's just a do-gooder thing.
It's just a profiteering with a theme.
And you see that in the environment.
You see it in medicine.
You see, you pick something.
It's all just profiteers with a theme.
That's all it is.
And so I knew all that.
I remember going to Washington, D.C. in fifth grade and meeting with Walter Beaman Jones.
That was Walter Jones's father.
I was arguing for a line item veto to cut pork out of bills.
And I was also arguing to get beach nourishment from North Carolina because your beaches should be considered infrastructure the same as highways and stuff.
It's just going to next year the ocean is going to come again.
I'm like, oh, yeah, it's probably going to snow again next year too in the north.
Do you not pave and salt the roads anyway?
And what's that cost?
Turns out, you know, keeping businesses open and stuff is worth getting rid of the snow.
And, you know, preserving your beaches is certainly worth it in income from tourism and so on.
From just a money point of view, forget about the moral point of view of saving people from their house going in the ocean or anything, but just from the financial point of view.
He was all set to actually help us on that.
And then he died.
unidentified
And Chase, you got the YouTube, just YouTube like Ryan Dawson, Hatteras Island, and this.
ryan dawson
Oh, yeah.
I'm always grilling the county commission.
unidentified
It could be in a movie.
ryan dawson
It's like, I mean, the way it's standing ovations and shit all the time.
It's great.
I go in.
I would go into, this is not on film.
I mean, it might be somewhere, but I would go into a restaurant and see the park service and just walk up to the table and point the door and be like, leave.
And they would.
unidentified
They would.
They knew you all over the island.
Oh, yeah.
The park department.
ryan dawson
You might get to step and you're not eating here.
You're not getting gas here.
We're boycotting the park service because they shut our beaches down.
I'm like, just don't let them eat.
Don't let them get gas.
Don't let them anything.
unidentified
So actually, you know, Park Service is the number one law enforcement I've had run-ins with because I've been to like all the national parks across the United States.
And all I would do is sleep in my car.
I didn't want to spend 30 bucks for a campground.
So I'd just find some isolated parking lot somewhere and they would go around hunting for you and find you and then either give you a fine or force you go to the campground.
ryan dawson
Yeah, they're road pirates.
unidentified
Yeah, they're just like cops.
No different.
ryan dawson
I had in my martial arts gym, park service and cops were free.
If you wanted to come get a lesson, it was free.
You didn't even have to pay for it.
It was funny.
unidentified
I thought your bottom lunching bag looked like a park ranger.
That's where I thought you were going with that.
ryan dawson
I mean, I'm like, if any of them come in here, I'm just going to suplex them and beat the fuck out of them the whole time and teach them nothing for free.
We had two park service people come in and get worked over.
No cops took it up, unfortunately.
I know all of them, though, and they're like, I'm not going in there.
I'm like, we'll try to convince someone to do it.
chase geiser
So, Ryan, as a layman, and I don't mean to just totally change subjects, but that's exactly what I'm doing.
What the fuck happened on 9-11?
unidentified
Wow, that's an open-ended question.
chase geiser
Yeah.
What happened?
So, like, I'm at the place where I don't think what they said happened happened, but I have no idea what the explanation is.
unidentified
Other than that, Al-Qaeda did run buildings.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
I can get Ryan going pretty easily by just saying that they hit the Pentagon with Flight 77.
All the airplanes are real.
Al-Qaeda is real.
It's just Al-Qaeda is not some independent terrorist organization with no ties to states.
Al-Qaeda was created by the United States with Saudi Arabia's support, getting diaspora fighters to fight in Afghanistan against the Soviets.
It's had a hand in glove relationship.
We armed them.
We trained them.
We financed them.
They used them in Bosnia.
They used them in other conflicts when it was, you know, within.
our interest, our meaning, the Israelis.
And they struck on September 11th, but there seems to have been faction in the U.S. knew it was coming.
We have evidence of foreign knowledge and support from foreign states.
chase geiser
I had Tony Schaefer on the show and he basically said that we knew.
ryan dawson
Yeah, we knew.
I mean, the Israelis are celebrating the attacks.
They were sitting there with the camera in place pointed at the World Trade Centers waiting for the plane to come.
chase geiser
Why did they want to fly planes into us, though, if we hooked them up with arms and money?
ryan dawson
Because the people on the lower rank have no clue.
They hated the United States legitimately because we, if you read their own, they wrote down, told you why they did it.
They didn't like the occupation in Palestine.
They didn't like the slaughtering of children in Iraq, the bombing of Lebanon, like all those Muslims that were being killed by the United States.
And they were going to hit us in our military and financial centers, World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
And so these guys were real terrorists and hated the United States.
You can understand their reasoning.
I can't imagine growing up in Iraq and watching kids starve to death pretty much daily.
Like they were dropping quicker than veterans kill themselves, starving to death.
And living through all this shit and knowing that the whole thing, the whole thing, the colonization of Gaza and the 15-year civil war in Lebanon and Israel bombing Beirut and dumping depleted uranium and affecting babies on, you go up seeing that and you know the U.S. facilitates it all.
And you know the U.S. is purposely fostering sectarian violence.
And they grow up, you know, fairly uneducated.
They've been demasculated.
unidentified
They watch people tortured, humiliated.
ryan dawson
Some of their cities have been flattened.
And they see some imam on the hill preaching Islam against great Satan and they gravitate to that.
They want revenge.
It's sort of we kill what we create.
We created that problem by engaging in our own terrorism first and wars and predatory loans and all the other means to break a place.
And so to get, you know, 19 or 20 guys that are willing to die to hit you back is not a surprise.
The thing is, they didn't do it by themselves.
They, for example, Bandar Bush and Prince Haifa used a couple conduits.
Their names were Salmon Basdan and Omar Bayoumi to pick up hijackers as soon as they landed in California, get them a house, pay them money, live with them, translate for them, get them to the flight schools, gave them all the logistical and financial support they needed.
There was a Saudi Git agent, which is the equivalent of Saudi Arabia's CIA, living with two of the 9-11 hijackers.
And then they picked up a third hijacker, Hanji Hanjor.
And the CIA knew.
They had followed these guys to an al-Qaeda summit meeting in Malaysia where they met the blind sheikh and spent the night with him.
They're already known.
They're on Interpol's Most Wanted.
Al-Midhar had been involved in the USS coal bombing in Yemen anyway.
So they're already known international terrorists and they let them live in the United States using their real names and never informed the FBI.
I think that's the excuse because the FBI wouldn't have done shit anyway.
You look at what some of the crap the FBI is doing today.
Like the guy that's now in charge of the Capitol Hill so-called riot was the ringleader of the dozen FBI agents that staged this Whitmer, Governor Whitmer kidnapping the foreign news.
And I don't really like this site in particular, but Mother Jones kind of left-leaning, but they did a list of all the entrapment cases and just crap, you know, FBI fuckery.
It's amazing.
Like entrapment, entrapment, entrapment.
Find some homeless person or drug addict or whatever.
And there's more FBI agents than there are like bad guys.
And they're going to chice them.
Put them.
Yeah, put them in the right place.
Have them hold a gun or a bomb or whatever.
They'll get all the blame.
They're just setting people up.
And then, you know, they react to their own provocations.
And there are FBI agents in the Capitol on January 6th.
And all that film hasn't been released or anything, but they were crossing the barricades.
We have footage of them the night before encouraging people to storm the Capitol.
And then they went and did it themselves.
chase geiser
Do you think they were planning to pay attention?
ryan dawson
And then they reacted to it.
They shot a woman dead.
And then the media made up a story of a guy getting beaten with a fire extinguisher, which was bullshit.
chase geiser
Do you think the FBI planted the pipe bombs on the sixth?
ryan dawson
I don't think there were any pipe bombs.
They just made it up.
There's no pipe bombs.
Pipe bomb became like a big thing because of Eric Rudolph.
And he had a relationship with the spooks.
He used to openly live in Asheville and knew people that knew him.
He wasn't on the run or anything.
He got caught serendipitously because he tried to rob a mall or something.
And, you know, it's not like they have every local police force in on it.
They're like, oh, this is Eric Rudolph, the Olympic bomber.
The FBI wasn't looking for him.
They weren't looking for McAfee either because he openly was saying where he was living, what he was doing, taking pictures on Okook Ferry, saying he's in Frisco, right?
They could have went and got him.
They just don't want to go to Hatteras because they might not come back.
unidentified
Yeah, I got to admit, I knew nothing about your story about McAfee.
That's all news to me.
ryan dawson
There's no way you could not notice he was there.
He was like, no one there has got $100 million, whatever.
And the guy is just bringing in hookers from the mainland and meth, and designer drugs, and getting all fucked up.
And he's a pedophile.
He's like preying on.
He was a pedophile.
unidentified
Ryan, how long?
ryan dawson
Out of his own mouth.
He's like, yeah, I'm sleeping with 16-year-olds.
I mean, the guy was a fucking piece of shit.
unidentified
How long did you know details about him?
Like when he was running for president, did you know all this shit about him?
Or was it?
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
Everybody knew.
But these, it's just like he made dank memes online.
So you get these people that just need a hero so bad that they're like, yeah, this guy is anti-Fed or whatever.
This guy is.
chase geiser
Well, he did a good job of branding himself.
ryan dawson
I don't care that he raided taxes.
That was great.
You know, I'd rather you spend it on drugs and hookers than give it to the government.
unidentified
Government kills people.
ryan dawson
But you can't give drugs to kids, man.
And you can't rape people.
You just can't.
unidentified
So Gary Johnson was a better choice than him in 2016.
ryan dawson
That guy, the guy that thought Guam could capsize if you put too many people on one side of it.
chase geiser
That wasn't Gary Johnson.
That was some other dude.
ryan dawson
That was Gary Johnson.
He's the Mr. What's Aleppo in the middle of the Syrian.
chase geiser
Yeah, no, he did the What's Aleppo, but I've seen the cap, the Guam capsized video.
It was some of them who said it.
Oh, it was two of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
It was some black guy.
chase geiser
The islands aren't floating there.
They're connected to the bottom.
ryan dawson
Yeah, there's Sam under the water, too.
Exactly.
unidentified
It just made us look really good as libertarians.
Those are great advertisers.
He's just a libertarian.
ryan dawson
He was an establishment guy who wanted to legalize drugs.
unidentified
Oh, we're talking about Gary Johnson.
ryan dawson
I was like, Johnson was, he's just, he's a Republican name, but he's actually a Democrat.
And he called himself a libertarian.
His only libertarian position was legalized weed.
And people like Bill Maher, he's a Democrat that wanted to legalize pot.
Yeah.
He's not a libertarian.
chase geiser
Bill Maher calls himself a Democrat, though, doesn't he?
unidentified
Well, he's calling himself a libertarian, too.
ryan dawson
He called himself a libertarian forever.
And now he finally said of himself, yeah, I wasn't really a libertarian.
It was just a Democrat that wanted to legalize weed.
unidentified
Yeah, so at least he admits it.
ryan dawson
Yeah, he fessed up.
chase geiser
Well, the Democrats used to be the more libertarian party because they were way, way more lax on the social issues like gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, stuff like that.
They were more libertine on.
But now that that stuff's been basically legalized, there's like no liberty.
There's no issue the Democrats fight for liberty.
ryan dawson
They're pro-tax party.
I mean, they've never been libertarian.
They're the ones that started World War I, World War II, the Korean War, Vietnam.
They raised taxes.
Like they only wanted to legalize weed so they could tax it.
unidentified
Like, what about the 60s, Ryan?
What about in the 1860s?
They were pretty dope back then?
ryan dawson
No, both parties sucked in the 1860s.
chase geiser
I miss the Whigs, bro.
We need to bring the Whigs.
ryan dawson
They're better than, you know, I see all these people.
This is how ignorant people are of history.
You know, Lincoln left the Republican Party and joined the Union Party because they lost 27 seats in the midterm elections.
Because at the time, he was losing the war that he started, which was unheard of.
How?
You have five times as many people.
You inherited the Navy and you have all the industry and you're losing.
But they were.
But he cheated.
He sent soldiers to the polling places and stuff and got re-elected, but not as a Republican.
They all sucked.
But yeah, at that time, I guess the Republicans were.
chase geiser
What was Lincoln's deal?
Did Lincoln really want to free the slaves?
Is that why he did all this sort of Machiavellian shit?
Or what was the...
ryan dawson
No, he wanted...
Yeah, he wanted it in slavery because he wanted to send...
He didn't want whites and blacks to live together at all.
He wanted to go to the city.
chase geiser
I've seen those speeches where he said that.
I've seen those speeches where Lincoln said that he didn't believe in like co-options.
ryan dawson
His first draft of the well, the first first, what could have been the 13th Amendment was the Cormand Amendment, which enshrined slavery in the Constitution.
His second proposal was the 13th Amendment that we got, where they end up doing that one.
He died before it was passed because they rejected it the first time and they passed it on the second go-around, which is hilarious.
He just fought a war and ends slavery and then you shoot down the amendment that ends slavery.
But he wrote written one after that that said, let's phase slavery out by the year 1900.
So another 37 years of slaves.
He wrote that in 1863 before his emancipation proclamation, his first idea was to end slavery the way New Jersey was ending slavery.
Like, okay, everybody who's already a slave is going to remain a slave, but their children or anybody born after this day will not be slaves.
And that's actually a proposal that Thomas Jefferson had made many, many years earlier as a way of phasing out slavery.
But it was a tactical thing to undermine southern labor in the middle of a war that the North was losing.
They didn't get rid of their own slaves.
And it's hilarious that they had this Juneteenth thing because they're like, oh, that's when slavery ended in Texas in 1865.
But slavery doesn't end in Kentucky and Delaware and Missouri and Kansas and Maryland and Washington, D.C. and New Jersey, all these northern states until December 6th, 1866, when the 13th Amendment passed.
They kept having slaves, black slaves.
And then they still had the coolies and Chinese slaves for many years after that.
And then they still had script pay for decades after that.
That lasted until the 1920s.
chase geiser
So why did the southern states secede if it wasn't because Lincoln wanted to make slavery illegal?
I'm asking stupid questions on purpose.
ryan dawson
Yeah, I mean, because it's not a stupid question.
I mean, it is and it isn't because it's like by your age, you should know already, but you're doing it for the audience, I suppose.
But it's because they put a 45% tariff on exports and they were spending almost the entirety of the taxes collected throughout the country on three cities, New York and Philly and Boston, all in the north.
So the South's paying like 87% of the taxes and not receiving any of the benefits from those taxes.
And they did not want to become a little Ireland.
What Britain did to Ireland is what the North was doing to the South.
And the South had always dominated American politics, like eight presidents from Virginia.
unidentified
They'd really dominated it.
ryan dawson
Yep.
He's born in North Carolina, though, but he killed the bank.
So did Jefferson.
And then Lincoln creates the income tax way before 1913.
The first income tax was Abraham Lincoln.
chase geiser
Just a wartime income tax?
ryan dawson
He made the greenbacks, too, that were backed by government bonds, which had to be paid back in gold by the South.
Yeah.
unidentified
I've got to run because I got to go meet Clint.
chase geiser
Okay, Michigan.
ryan dawson
Yeah, South Carolina tried to secede in the 1830s over the same issue.
Slavery hadn't even been brought up at all.
They just didn't like the tariffs because Charleston was the fourth largest city port city in the United States and the largest one in the South, Charleston and New Orleans.
A lot of the river networks and stuff from North Carolina and South Carolina would go to Charleston for export because you can't export from the Outer Bank.
It's too dangerous.
And so like Wilmington was the largest city in North Carolina.
It wasn't Raleigh or Charlotte like now.
It was all in the east, and it was their trade.
All the coastal areas and all the areas on the Mississippi were greatly affected by the tariff.
Now, inland, where you're not near the rivers and you're not near the coast, didn't want to secede from the Union.
And actually, West Virginia doesn't secede from the Union.
And Western North Carolina and East Tennessee fought for the north.
The fourth largest divisions by the end of the war were from North Carolina.
So it's about half that state.
It was really mixed.
It wasn't a north versus south thing.
It was kind of like coastal and river trading areas versus the interior versus the north.
In North, you know, they wanted to preserve the Union because they had all the benefit from it.
They were also competing for railroads going out west, and they wanted it to go from Chicago to California instead of New Orleans.
And part of the reason for abolition is, well, if we undermine slavery, they won't be able to compete with us on the railroad.
It was just for their own selfish interest.
Nobody cared about blacks in the 1860s.
There were abolitionists, but that was a super tiny minority.
And then a lot of them were motivated by not expanding slavery out west because they didn't want to live with blacks at all.
Like even after the war, Ohio was like, oh, yeah, they forced you to have black suffrage from the 14th Amendment.
And they say, well, you can't live here unless you pay $500 if you're black.
chase geiser
What about when Texas became the Republic of Texas, didn't they have some sort of policies that incentivized black people to just leave the country?
Because, you know, it was its own country for 10 years, like 46 to 56 or something like that.
ryan dawson
Yeah, but most of what they color in on the map was really Comanche territory anyway.
And Comanche was expanding its territory up until 1870.
chase geiser
She's more Comanche now.
ryan dawson
Now, they had defeated the Spanish Army, the Texas Army and the U.S. Army and the CSA.
The Comanche were hardcore.
Six shot revolvers put an end to that, though.
Do you think that the Civil War?
chase geiser
Do you think the founders intended that secession be legal for states?
ryan dawson
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's how Kentucky was made.
chase geiser
I haven't read the Federalist Papers yet.
unidentified
So I'm not right.
ryan dawson
Kentucky was part of Virginia and becomes its own state.
They didn't want states to be too big.
They didn't want one particular state to have more power than the others.
They wanted an expected secession.
I mean, we seceded from Britain.
chase geiser
Yeah, but a state seceding from another state is different from a state seceding from the Union.
ryan dawson
You can have half of a state form its own state.
I mean, that happened several times.
unidentified
Sure.
ryan dawson
That happened in North Carolina and what they created, the state of Franklin, which is now the state of Tennessee.
chase geiser
Right.
But they still remain part of the Union.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
Well, yeah, but voluntarily.
And if you don't want to be part of the Union, there were secession movements in the Northeast and in Texas prior to the Civil War, and they ended up not seceding.
But no one questioned the constitutionality of it.
It's like, yeah, you can secede.
And it's not like when Jefferson and Madison are the ones that wrote it, so they know what it means.
They don't have to interpret what it means.
They're the guys that wrote what it meant.
And they said secession was constitutional.
So if the guys that write the Constitution and the Bill of Rights are saying you can secede, that's, you know, now the Supreme Court can interpret this way or that.
But I'm like, it's not an interpretation.
These are the OG people that wrote it and know exactly what it means.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
It's unfortunate that secession, as a legal decision or move, got so branded as associated with slavery and racism.
Because, you know, there's a million different reasons to secede that had nothing to do with racism or slavery.
ryan dawson
But the North had slaves, too.
chase geiser
You're just, right.
ryan dawson
Six Northern states had slaves.
All of them had slaves, but six had black slaves before, during, and after the Civil War.
And they had contraband camps where they worked Africans to death.
And they had programs relocating people to Haiti and Panama where a majority of them just died.
They even thought about Liberia and thought it wasn't as cost-efficient as the Caribbean.
They didn't care.
And, you know, the last place to have black suffrage in the United States?
The North.
The entire South.
had black suffrage before the north and there were seven states that rejected it outright and then others made conditions on it like in new york yeah you can vote if you're a black male but only if you own property which was you know less than one percent of them if any of them uh you ever looked at the stats Free black men that own slaves.
chase geiser
It's crazy when you look at that as well.
ryan dawson
Well, not really.
I mean, the majority of black slaveholders are black and lived in Africa.
I mean, where do you think they bought them?
Right.
I mean, when Jefferson ended the transatlantic slave trade, it devastated Western Africa because that was their main export people.
They went to war just to capture people so they could sell them to Europeans.
chase geiser
Do you think, did he just do it for moral reasons or were there some socioeconomic reasons or political reasons?
ryan dawson
All the above.
I mean, it devastated our economic competitors because Europe was getting raw goods from the U.S. and making finished products and selling it to Africa.
We was paying for it by selling slaves to the United States.
Now they could still sell them to Brazil and other places in the Americas, but not to the U.S. And some will say, well, Jefferson just wanted the price of slaves in Virginia to go up by cutting off other sources to buy them or whatever.
But that's bullshit because he wrote, he tried to end slavery in Virginia too in the Virginia Constitution.
He phased slavery out.
That didn't pass, but Jefferson tried to make it pass.
And when he became president, he got rid of expansion of slavery to the Northwest and he ended the transatlantic slave trade.
He did not end slavery in each state because he believed that was a state issue.
But when he was part, when he was a Virginia politician, he did try to end slavery in Virginia.
He just wasn't successful.
He thought it was immoral, but he also thought it was something you couldn't do overnight.
He wanted to phase it out.
And probably true.
It's a tough problem to tackle.
Because what do you do with a bunch of people that have no education?
Some of them have like a skill.
And the culture just isn't like, where are they going to go?
Everyone's racist.
You have politics is downstream from culture.
So you have to change the culture and their attitudes towards other races first.
Or whatever law you make is not going to work.
chase geiser
So what do you say to people who make the argument that the Republican and the Democrat Party switched?
Because that's a common leftist response to people who are like, Democrats are responsible for everything from fighting for slavery and voting against the civil rights movement.
And then the common response is that the parties flipped it.
ryan dawson
It's silly because Democrats and Republicans had slaves.
Tennessee was Republican at the time of the Civil War and it also had slaves, as did all those union states, and they all enslaved the Chinese.
They act like Chinese slaves don't count or something.
The reason to undermine slavery in the South is they're competing with them and they wanted to undermine their labor.
They didn't care about blacks.
They're like, you're not coming up here, you know?
And they're talking about how to relocate them.
They didn't care.
As far as the flipping part, like if you're going to say that nowadays, Democrats are supposed to be the tax and spend big government party and the Republicans are like for fiscal responsibility.
We don't have a party that has fiscal responsibility.
And both parties just seem to be for small government whenever they're not in power.
And when they are in power, you have like the neocons.
It's like, oh, they're not conservative.
They're the new conservatives because they're for big government and war.
But have they not always been that way?
And they just lost elections.
There's no flipping.
They've both always sucked.
You could say with LBJ, there's the civil rights movement.
So for once, under the banner of Democrats, you have minorities getting rights.
So that's why they say there's the flip is Lyndon Johnson gave blacks desegregation.
chase geiser
Yeah, but a lot of the blue states, especially in the South, stayed blue all the way through civil rights up until like the early 2000s.
Some of the flips didn't happen.
So you think that if it was just, you know, there was 100% correlation with perceived racism, that the flipping would have happened in the 60s.
ryan dawson
They're not voting based on race or anything.
Like that's media made that up.
Right.
Think about it.
Like President Grant got elected and southern states voted for him.
But oh yeah, whites weren't allowed to vote.
So they gave blacks, the voting, black men voting rights, but they took rights away from veterans.
And of course they elected Grant.
They're told him like, this is the guy that liberated you, even though he personally had slaves himself.
And he's the guy that worked people to death in contraband camps.
Guy in the $50 bill, a drunkard, just sent people into the slaughter.
He also is very prejudiced towards German and Irish mercenaries who just sent on suicide missions.
Guy's a monster.
And he's the one that goes out west killing Native Americans too.
I mean, he's definitely racist.
But they saw blacks as a convenient voting block for Republicans, which Democrats do today.
They don't care about American interest or I hate saying black interest because it really should just be interest.
Right.
An interest for this guy is an interest for the other guy.
But they started realizing, hey, this is what happens a lot of African nations too.
They start divvying out money based on ethnic groups and stuff.
And so groups realize they can vote themselves money.
And so they would come out with these social programs and stuff, which they believed in.
And if they realize, hey, if we couch this in race to say that our welfare or whatever is for single mothers or blacks or Latino, whatever, we can get a demographic group vote.
Because why wouldn't somebody vote themselves benefits, right?
And of course, it doesn't work.
Welfare has been a disaster.
Affirmative action has been a disaster, but it looks good on paper and it still gets some votes.
So they continue to do policies that they know are detrimental because it keeps them in power.
And so I guess Democrats started doing that.
Republicans tried the same thing with the religious bloc and stuff.
They don't care about this or that brand of Christianity or anything.
They just want to manipulate people into voting for their party and being like, yeah, we're pro-you guys.
And yet they're not.
There's not a single thing you can look at that either party passed that has helped any of these groups.
They're really much the opposite.
But I think a lot of the country accepted desegregation because of Vietnam.
Like if you're going to fight and die in the military, then you should have equal rights in your home country, right?
I think that's happened a lot.
And the same with when the world wars hit, a lot of women went to work and they realized, oh, we can work after all.
Right.
chase geiser
Well, and with inflation.
ryan dawson
Yeah, you want to tax both genders.
chase geiser
Well, there's that, but you also, women sort of had to work at a certain point because, you know, there was a time where you could be an electrician and live in a city and own a house and support a family of four, you know, with the state home.
ryan dawson
Now you need double income to survive.
They can tax both sexes.
And if both of you are working, guess who gets to control your kids?
chase geiser
State.
Yep.
So I think that's.
ryan dawson
They're not going to say that.
They're like, this is for women's whatever.
But it isn't.
They went to wage slave because it's cheaper than cattle slavery.
You don't have to feed them.
You don't have to house them.
They're replaceable.
If they starve, who cares?
You just get another one.
And so it was the conditions in Europe were so bad with potato famines and everything else that there were enough immigrants coming to the United States that workers became super replaceable in the Northeast.
So if you don't want to pluck feathers for 20 hours a day, we'll find O'Brien McPhiley or he'll do it.
They'll just replace you.
And so it took a long time to get labor rights in the United States, the eight-hour day and all that.
And the mafia actually helped a great deal in that.
And as did just straight up rebellions with guns, like Blair Mountain, they shot over a million rounds, fought the government for a month.
People don't even know that happened.
They think walking around with signs and pink pussy hats got us rights.
Nobody cares if you yell at buildings.
They care when you get violent.
And we're taught the opposite.
Never be violent.
It never works.
chase geiser
But civil disobedience works too, to a certain extent.
ryan dawson
If there's a threat of violence.
chase geiser
Right.
Right.
But I mean, you just got to force it, right?
Like, maybe I'm just being naive, but I think that the sit-ins and stuff.
ryan dawson
Boycotts work.
You know, we're just not going to use your bus anymore.
Something like that.
That'll work.
But I'll tell you, another, this is something that's sick, but part of the motivations to integrate schools was, man, this NIBA can really play football.
chase geiser
Yeah.
Yeah.
ryan dawson
And getting them in sports means you have to have them in your school.
So like, all right, we'll take a few.
Right.
All the athletes.
chase geiser
Well, you've seen a lot of that.
That still happens at the higher education level.
Like a lot of these affirmative action programs and stuff are really just cloaked sports problems because the universities know that having a good sports team is like the best possible advertisement for enrollment.
Yeah.
It brings in a lot of wrestling, too.
And they put so much money into the basketball team.
ryan dawson
Tennessee Volunteers in Knoxville, they're making a million dollars a game.
There's 105,000 people at the Notre Dame football game versus Tennessee, and they're all paying the cheapest ticket, and the nosebleed is probably $14.
All on up to way more than that for next to the cheerleader seats or whatever.
$100,000 plus.
I mean, they're making over a million bucks a game, and they don't pay the players.
So after you pay your coach's salary, that revenue goes to school.
chase geiser
That's changing, though.
That's changing, though.
They're going to start.
I mean, they're still going to skim quite a bit.
ryan dawson
It seems like if you're large enough to be on television and generate commercial revenue, that the players should get a slice of that.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
Why not?
I don't know.
unidentified
Why not?
chase geiser
So what do you think the whole story is behind the formation of the Federal Reserve?
Because based on the research that I've done, it seems that it's unconstitutional for the United States government to create a fiat currency because the Constitution pretty explicitly says that we can make gold and silver-backed coinage.
But the implication, of course, is that fiat is not legal in the United States.
And it seems to me, and this is just my naive sort of layman interpretation, that the Federal Reserve was a way for the government to outsource fiat to a private institution.
What do you think?
ryan dawson
Well, and also add usury.
Because instead of the Treasury minting coins interest-free, you now have to pay interest for another party to create the money supply, which they loan to you, which you can never pay back because it's going to be X plus interest versus X. So it's impossible to get out of debt.
chase geiser
They only print X number of dollars, but you owe X plus interest.
So the debt cycle always increases.
ryan dawson
So you have to sell intrinsic assets that have value, but how do they get paid for it unless they increase the money supply?
You see, yeah, it's like many, many times in history people have gone against usury, including Jesus, you know, the Muslims got rid of it, Catholics got rid of it.
Many nations have gotten rid of usury, but it always comes creeping back.
chase geiser
Well, even in the Old Testament, it says that you're not supposed to loan.
I mean, obviously the Jews have loaned money on interest for a long time, but I don't think to their own.
Maybe I'm wrong about that.
But in the Old Testament, I don't think you're supposed to loan money on interest to your neighbor.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
I mean, you can say this is a fee for the risk of pirates or whatever, you know, user fee or something, but you can't have interest indefinitely, you know, but they do.
And whether or not your currency is backed by a metal or something like that, it's not as big a deal as people make it out to be.
It's you're going to have biometallism and you can just discover a silver mine or whatever and still get inflation that way.
But it's just a way to limit what the total supply is.
But they'll just do fractional reserve banking.
So let's say, okay, we have X amount of gold.
We'll loan nine times that amount in paper or something.
unidentified
Right.
ryan dawson
And then your ratio can get larger and larger.
It's 300 and something to one, 3,000 to one.
So whether it's backbite or not, it's like, well, is there a fixed ratio?
Because if not, that doesn't really do much good.
A lot of value is based on two things, demand and labor.
So it took you X amount of time doing something to earn the dollar.
And then, but it's not based on time.
It's based on labor.
And if you go around doing something useless for three hours, that doesn't mean it's worth anything.
Like digging a ditch and then filling it in or something.
But, and then there's the demand and it's sad because a lot of things that are necessary in society are not always commercial products that turn, that create revenue.
And so, for example, science or history or something, it's very valuable to the culture, but it doesn't necessarily produce anything.
You're relying on other people to finance you.
Now, there is a little slither of science.
Like, if you invent a new thing in engineering or something, and then you sell that thing, that you can use those profits.
But there's a lot of scientific discoveries that don't or don't immediately make anything you could sell.
History, philosophy, they're valuable, but there's not, there's nothing to point to and go, oh, yeah, I understand this.
So it's not sellable.
And so you have to have others that recognize the value in these things that are not commercial products and to do it.
And so there would not be a Tesla without a Wittenhouse.
And there would not be Edison had to be, he was a finance guy.
It's like, you got to have the business guy and then the brain doing whatever to move things.
And it seems like, shouldn't we be supporting a lot of these things we recognize that have value without them having to go around and seek funding and crowdsourcing and stuff for everything?
chase geiser
Well, I mean, that's one of the arguments in favor of spending a lot of money on the military is like DARPANET, for example, sort of a national security product that was developed using tax dollars by the government.
And that's why we have the internet.
And, you know, you can make a case.
ryan dawson
That wasn't much until the World Wide Web, which was created privately.
But I think we would have gotten those things anyway had we not spent that all on the military.
It would have been in the marketplace.
And competition and profit motive certainly work for innovation.
But just because a government does invent something now and then, like, oh, we accidentally discovered Velcro or whatever, doesn't mean it wouldn't have been otherwise without it.
But we certainly makes it more expensive and take a lot longer.
You look at some of the crap, like the F35, they wasted one and a half trillion dollars on it.
Who could ever, no private company could ever build such a piece of shit because they'd go out of business.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
You can't just keep throwing money down a well because you'll fail.
But if it's government, then they just keep adding more and more and more onto it and it doesn't work and you end up losing over one and a half trillion dollars.
No, no business other than government can do that.
And so it's like, whereas the government might get a winner once in a while, say, oh, we made this thing.
Their number of failures are outnumber them so greatly.
We got a little issue outside.
chase geiser
Little action.
So I want to ask you.
ryan dawson
You just outnumber them so much.
And then the other thing is, if the government makes something or favors something and monopolizes it, then this is not driven to innovate and it's going to cost too much.
So the reason you get new little widgets on your iPhone or your Galaxy or whatever is because if Apple doesn't do it, Google will or whatever.
And so because they're making new things, I got to make new things.
And if they lower their price, we got to lower our price.
But if the government just picks a winner and that's just the phone, then there is no competition making new widgets that you have to compete with.
So you're not in a hurry to innovate.
And you can have planned obsolescence and you can charge whatever the market will bear because there's no competitor.
Right.
So you want markets and you'd want more than two choices.
I mean, that's pretty close to monopoly too.
Ideally, we'd have like 20 choices for cell phones, but there is a lot of state favoritism and contracting and regulatory capture and all this fuckery from the government.
And that's why a lot of things are expensive and suck, but it could be so much worse.
I mean, we do have free market-ish in the United States.
But there are definitely a lot of industries that are either getting subsidized or favorable regulations.
And that's where all our money is wasted and cause inflation, causes so many problems.
The state just makes things more expensive and slower.
Like Elon Musk, I know they get some money from the state, but they were able to do for $4 billion, but it costs $44 billion for the government to do the same thing, 10 times less.
And had they not had state sponsorship, it would have been less than that.
Like, oh, how are we going to raise this much money?
I'm like, guess what?
It's not going to cost that much money.
It should not cost you a million something fucking dollars to build a road.
It's asphalt.
You know, it's we can do that way cheaper than what it costs.
It only costs that much because the state is paying right.
chase geiser
Same with healthcare.
See the cost just skyrocketing.
ryan dawson
Yes, same with health.
chase geiser
And tuition.
And tuition too.
I mean, college prices have just gone way.
ryan dawson
Absolutely.
Guaranteed student loans and the Department of Ed have done that.
And it didn't cost that before the government got involved.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
It was still the same subjects to stuff.
They just suddenly cost this much because the government is giving guaranteed student loans.
And the colleges know that.
Oh, the state's paying?
Well, this is the price then.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So I got to ask you, because I'm trying to kind of go chronologically.
So I've gone through the Civil War.
We hit the Federal Reserve.
I don't know much about World War I. I don't know if you want to talk about it or not.
But one thing I did want to mention about World War I that I think is really interesting is like everybody came back from World War I. And then obviously the Spanish flu was incredibly viral and deadly.
And you don't see like anywhere close to the extent of government spending or lockdowns or just bureaucratic behavior in 1917 that we saw last year.
ryan dawson
We didn't have television.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
So is that it?
Like what do you think really happened with COVID?
That's my question.
ryan dawson
Like what the hype, the hype from the media scared the public and investors got behind it.
If you couldn't scare the shit out of the public with your shortages on toilet paper, all this, which is so dumb.
There was never a production side shortage.
It's just people went and hoarded, right?
chase geiser
Nobody pooped more.
ryan dawson
Yeah, unlikely.
chase geiser
Same exact amount of pooping going on.
ryan dawson
But I guess there was a lot of pants shitting during Rona Chan, but they overhype these things and people run around like chicken little saying the sky is falling.
These are the same people say the earth will be gone in eight years because of global warming if we don't do something.
chase geiser
Wouldn't that be nice?
ryan dawson
The same people that said the hole in the ozone was going to destroy the planet.
It didn't.
They just shut up about that one, didn't they?
Yeah, that was a big thing.
chase geiser
That was a fun kid.
ryan dawson
That was completely 90s and stuff.
We were doing science projects on it and it's crammed down our head in school.
What happened to it?
Global freezing was one they did in the 70s.
Some of the same people, too.
And then global warming, and then they rebranded that climate change.
It's whatever.
It's hype to sell products, vaccines, and drugs.
chase geiser
Toilet paper, masks.
ryan dawson
Yep.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
It wipes out the middle class because you shut down all those sectors, but your essential ones can still do business, right?
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Amazon.
unidentified
Yep.
ryan dawson
Look at all the real estate in New York City right now.
They're empty blocks of just empty stores and commercial property.
And that's going to get devalued.
Everyone's moving out.
A lot of them have just left the city completely.
But somebody later is going to gobble all that up for pennies on the dollar and monopolize New York City.
And who has the capital to do that?
The port authorities.
And who runs that?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Them.
chase geiser
Must be nice to run that, Ryan.
I'm happy for you.
ryan dawson
Yeah, it's not me.
chase geiser
Ryan Dawson is buying.
ryan dawson
You wouldn't want me in charge of New York City.
I'd be like, yeah, all right.
We're selling this right now.
chase geiser
It'd be like, Gotham.
Literally.
ryan dawson
With no Batman.
chase geiser
So do you think that the Rona was a lab leak?
ryan dawson
That seems to be evidence for that.
Yeah.
chase geiser
Do you think it was intentional?
ryan dawson
Yep.
chase geiser
So that the commies could shut down the U.S. economy and play catch up for a little bit.
ryan dawson
By commies, do you mean the ones that are in America?
No.
chase geiser
Well, I guess both, but China.
ryan dawson
No, I mean, they don't want that shit in their own country either.
It was just inevitable.
Like, we're going to do gain of function research on coronaviruses in China, knowing goddamn well what will happen.
These people in China, it's like, oh, yeah, let's give a chainsaw to a four-year-old.
Just tell him not to turn it on.
What could go wrong?
There's no safety, anything.
China can't even get lead out of its paint.
Okay.
Their product is so unsafe.
I mean, they have buildings that just collapse because I guess we had one of those in Miami recently, too.
chase geiser
But, you know, yeah, but that was a fluke, not the norm.
ryan dawson
Right.
But yeah, the trains just go off the rails.
Like, China sucks.
And, like, oh, yeah, let's test deadly viruses there.
Bravo.
But it seems to be that they're buying patents and stuff for this shit before it escapes the lab.
did the same thing with anthrax a lot of government officials run cipro and stuff before there somebody mailed anthrax on 9-11 and tried to blame it on al-qaeda so i i mean they've done it before i wouldn't doubt it we'd never be able to know because it's like you're not even allowed to ask that question without getting censored
chase geiser
right well they don't censor you so much anymore for the lab leak hypothesis since it's gained um mainstream traction but they'll censor you for the other details and implications of facebook and twitter and stuff will no shit they still do oh yeah i mean i don't use the hell out of the ivermectin this they said for the hell out of the ivermectin yeah that's from japan japanese made that one yeah but now it's in the public domain there's no patent on it right so we can make money off of it if
ryan dawson
it works it's just you don't need it corona's not that big a deal you're like a 99.98 chance you're gonna be fine unless you're over 80 in which case just about everything kills you anyway so what do you whatever i mean you're more likely if you're 27 years old you're more likely to die from lightning than you are from rona
right are you gonna every time it rains like cower under your bed like there's no reason it's so silly i i get sick to my stomach watching all these people wear masks and stuff i'm like you're sheep i never wear a mask anywhere i go and no problem they don't make you do that in japan it's not mandatory that
would be unconstitutional so um world war ii did we know pearl harbor was going to happen before it happened and we just let it happen well what do you mean by we the united states of america americans didn't know people in hawaii didn't know oh yeah they knew white house yeah and they just let it happen they actually encouraged it with the mccullin memo they did eight point plan of putting the oil embargo on japan and they had attacked him in the
the philippines and china before pearl harbor and they did the do-nothing raid right after they were sitting outside tokyo waiting to yeah they saw it coming they'd broken the codes they knew where the ships were they're like americans are very war weary after world war one and don't want to be part of this let's goad the japanese into attacking hawaii which was not a u.s state by the way it said they attacked a base and they only attacked the base they they could have flattened hawaii but they didn't they attacked pearl harbor
but what did we do when we got to japan just start bombing civilians right yeah yeah it's not like the japanese killed plenty of civilians in china and stuff but what happens in every war that's why war sucks yeah i mean that's the only reason why war sucks but it's the one of the inevitable it's not as if uh they didn't have prior beef with the chinese either i
mean they've been attacked many times with them too but yeah it sucks man it's fucking horrible there are no good guys in world war ii uh you can rightly demonize the axis powers but the allies are guilty of all the same things i mean french and british empire colonized half the planet
and the americas wiped out the american and canadian indians and went on all the way to guam you know spanish-american war and replaced the spanish in the philippines as a military occupier i mean it's uh uh hardly hardly could they shake their finger at the germans when they also enslaved raped and genocided most of the planet themselves germany was kind of new at the game compared to like
britain good lord they had no shame a long time since they sacked rome yeah it's been a while it's like let's tag in the mongolians whether you know it's been a long time really like how do we do this again wait you mean these little landlocked nations just lose their shit sometimes because they got nothing else going for them?
So it's always like Macedonia or Mongolia or some landlocked place.
It's just like, what do we got?
Men, weapons.
chase geiser
Well, when you start seeing unemployment rates at 30%, people, when you start seeing unemployment rates at 30%, you get past the traditional causes of unemployment, like mental illness or incompetence or stupidity or laziness.
And then you have a significant portion of your population who are normal, rational people that are actively going out every day looking for work and just not finding any.
And you get that 30% kind of threshold like they had in Germany.
That's when you start seeing parties.
ryan dawson
Nowadays, we got like the opposite reason.
We have unemployment because of COVID bucks.
People are like, if I go to work, I'm going to lose my government cash.
So they're incentivized to not work.
So even though places are open, they can't find any employees.
So they're still closed.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Wow.
Socialism causes shortages.
Imagine that.
If only we had some examples to look at, we might have known this was coming.
chase geiser
So why do you think it is that the United States be like, that wasn't true fascism?
ryan dawson
That was democratic fascism.
unidentified
True fascism hasn't been tried.
chase geiser
Let me tell you what democratic fascism is.
It's like Bernie Sanders.
unidentified
Let me tell you what democratic socialism is.
chase geiser
Yeah.
So why do you think it is that the United States?
ryan dawson
That sounds like Nixon, too.
unidentified
I got a big nose.
chase geiser
I hate Billson.
Why do you think it is that the United States got involved in Afghanistan and Iraq and sort of like allowed the 9-11 thing to happen?
ryan dawson
Oh, they need the opium trade out of Afghanistan because the off-the-books narcotic budget pays for the covert operations they do everywhere else.
Same reason they were in NAM.
And they went into Iraq because that's what Israel told them to do.
chase geiser
I have a buddy who was stationed in Afghanistan and he said that half his job was to cover opium fields.
Popping fields.
ryan dawson
We're there.
That's why we're there.
And then $64 billion black budget.
And that's how they pay Al-Qaeda and these other groups all over the place.
chase geiser
So the deep state really doesn't want to solve the opioid crisis.
unidentified
No, no, no.
ryan dawson
It's, yeah, we get opium for morphine and stuff, but it's heroin.
And they sell it everywhere as a way of creating a black budget.
You can't go to Congress and say, hey, can I have a few million dollars to pay al-Qaeda?
They're going to say, hell no.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
But if you use heroin money, then you can do what you want.
The narco-trafficking, I mean, that's how they paid.
Part of how they paid for Iran-Contra was selling cocaine.
And CIA was selling cocaine, bringing it in on airplanes and everything.
And selling crack, too, in places like Los Angeles.
They were bringing coke into Miami and New Orleans.
And they were training pilots in Arkansas.
And they were bringing in all manner of drugs into Los Angeles.
And the profits of which went to pay to train Contras to fight the Santinistas in Nicaragua.
The other way was contraband of like airplane parts and stuff that they were selling to Iran through Israel.
chase geiser
See that, Ryan?
It's for you.
ryan dawson
Oh, what does he think of Merchheimer and Waltz Israel book on the lobby?
unidentified
It's okay.
ryan dawson
I would say if you want a better book, let's see, where is it?
I usually have it behind me.
You want to get Grant Smith's Big Israel.
What is right here?
unidentified
I loan that out.
ryan dawson
Yeah, Mersheimer and Waltz somehow, I guess because people like Justin Raimondo promoted it.
And then later, like Fuentes and stuff, that's basically their thing.
But they're like, oh, yeah, we shouldn't be like, if they're going to fight in the Middle East, why should we have to pay for it?
Whatever doesn't go far enough.
Big Israel is the book you want to get.
But they did go hard on APAC.
But to me, that's pretty much common sense.
I don't know if you need to read a book to know that, but go ahead if you want to.
Where the fuck is Big Israel?
chase geiser
Check the bathroom.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Oh, here it is.
Right next to David Irvin.
unidentified
And the other history book.
ryan dawson
Yeah, this is the one to get.
chase geiser
What's your favorite book of all time, Brian?
ryan dawson
Industrial Society and its Future by Ted Kaczynski.
Also known as the Unibomber.
chase geiser
Did he write a book or is that just the name of his manifesto?
unidentified
Both.
ryan dawson
It's a book now.
chase geiser
How long is it?
It's only like 60 pages, right?
unidentified
Something like that.
ryan dawson
Pretty short.
It's like 238 paragraphs or something.
Long ones, though.
chase geiser
He's still in the pen, isn't he?
ryan dawson
Yeah, forever.
chase geiser
So what do you think the deals with him?
Do you think that he went nuts because of the intelligence community LSD tests?
Or do you think that you don't think so?
But he killed civilians.
I mean, that requires a certain kind of person.
ryan dawson
In his opinion, violence is not intrinsically wrong.
It's all about how it's used.
And he genuinely thought he's a futurist.
Guys had an IQ of like 160.
And he's targeting these SJW weebs at universities and stuff.
He just saw no other way to fix it.
chase geiser
Is he still writing from the pen?
ryan dawson
He had been abused.
I mean, you could say he's screwed up because of all the abuse they did to him.
They did psych experiments to him and all.
That's why he's not like crazy.
Like, you know, doesn't know what he's rational.
He's just been fucked with so much that he was angry enough that he's like, yeah, how about I blow you up?
Because those professors and stuff tortured him and were doing it to other kids.
And they just use these child prodigies for the interests of the state.
Like, oh, you're really good in math, whatever.
Their whole life is planned out for them.
They get no autonomy, no decisions.
Like, you're really smart.
I wonder what you can do for us.
And what about their own interests?
Whatever.
It's not even considered.
chase geiser
It's like Goodwill Hunting, that scene where he does the interview with the, I think it's the CIA.
He has that famous monologue where he's like, yeah, so you're right.
Yeah, he's like, I might as well just, you know, shoot my own buddy in the ass, crank up his gas prices.
You know, he's got that awesome.
I can't do it justice, but he's got that awesome monologue.
And that's basically, you know, you kind of see how, particularly like in the 80s and the 90s, it seemed like the government was really intentional about finding those intellectual assets.
ryan dawson
The thing is, if he just waited a couple years, he could have put the whole thing online, but nobody would have seen it.
And nobody would publish it.
And why not?
Like, just this, what he wrote was fine.
Just publish it.
They wouldn't do it.
So he's like, I got to do extreme measures to get this out there.
He was so vital for him to get this information out that he was willing to kill and go to jail for it.
chase geiser
Have you ever written him a letter?
ryan dawson
And he also, I have.
He knew once it was published that they were going to know who wrote it and they were going to come get him.
chase geiser
Did you write him back?
Did he write you back rather?
ryan dawson
He did.
It was creepy.
I've gotten mail from the Unobomber.
Seems like a little unsafe, right?
chase geiser
Was the actual letter creepy or was it just receiving the mail that was creepy?
ryan dawson
Real short, just sent postcard and a little like three sentence response type of thing.
chase geiser
That's interesting.
It's funny.
I didn't realize this until I was a little bit older, but it's.
ryan dawson
But he had a curved clock with certain numbers and stuff with dots on them and all.
And I'm wondering if there isn't some message in the math that I'm too stupid to get.
chase geiser
Really?
ryan dawson
Why would you do that?
chase geiser
Interesting.
Send me a screenshot, bro.
ryan dawson
I mean, it's buried in my box.
chase geiser
So what do you think is next for the United States in the next 10 years?
ryan dawson
I don't know if we'll make it that long.
I mean, we're having like rainbow monkeys with dildo tails in our libraries and stuff now.
And they're talking about spending trillions of dollars on stimulus for, you know, infrastructure and equity.
I just, we're going back.
chase geiser
How do you quantify equity if you think math is racist?
ryan dawson
Right.
They said math is racist.
chase geiser
And then they're talking about equity.
How do you calculate equity without math?
ryan dawson
Dumb shit.
Just keep giving as much as they feel or something.
I don't know.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
Yeah, I am so sick of everything coming to race.
Like, if you go on the pleb media, like TikTok or something, it's like every fifth video is some bitching about.
I'm not banned on TikTok yet because I don't use it.
chase geiser
You just won't use it.
unidentified
I can look at it, though.
chase geiser
CCP.
ryan dawson
I can look at, yeah, they're less dictatorial than the United States.
Isn't that sad?
Like, I have Telegram because it's Russian and VK, which is also Russian.
But I can't use anything from America.
Just added one American platform.
I can't even use.
Yesterday I got banned from Western Union.
chase geiser
Western Union banned you?
How'd you find out?
You tried to use it?
ryan dawson
Try to use it?
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
So what do you have to do?
You just send Bitcoin?
ryan dawson
No, I'm banned on exchanges.
I can't use digital coins either.
They banned me first.
chase geiser
There's not a single exchange that you can get an account on.
ryan dawson
I have a Japanese bank.
It's money.
That's why I have to live here.
chase geiser
Man, that's crazy.
All because you're antagonistic toward the state of Israel.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
chase geiser
So do they classify you as a terrorist?
ryan dawson
I think they don't like me shaking the cage on Jeffrey Epstein either.
Because that goes back to Israel too, though.
We're talking about a billionaire class, and I name names and I've pissed them all off.
So they're getting me canceled and everything.
chase geiser
Was that?
Do you think Epstein was a spy?
ryan dawson
Well, Epstein's role was to honey trap prominent politicians, judges.
And yeah, they spied on science and technology.
chase geiser
So how did he get pinned then if he was like this asset?
ryan dawson
He screwed up too many times.
They can replace him.
I mean, it's not hard to fill that role.
Hey, would you like to fuck young women every day?
chase geiser
And I saw that on.
I was on indeed.com looking for opportunities for my wife because she wants to want a part-time job.
And I was looking in the CIA had a listing.
ryan dawson
I like honey traps.
unidentified
Yeah.
chase geiser
Yeah.
We need a honey trap.
Epstein died.
Hey, it's good.
Benefits included.
ryan dawson
Work your way up.
chase geiser
So do you think that he like fell into it because he was actually, do you think he was doing like bad shit and they caught him?
And then they're like, listen, the only way for you not to go to jail is if you start working for us.
ryan dawson
That kind of thing.
Maxwell's who brought him in and her father had already worked for Israeli intelligence.
I've explained all that in like seven-hour videos.
chase geiser
Where can people find you, by the way?
ryan dawson
ANCReport.com.
It's got the anti-neocon report.
ANC report.com.
And a lot of Epstein stuff over there.
And I've done a lot of interviews with Sean Atwood.
He's still on YouTube.
Almost everyone else I did an Epstein interview with has been thrown off YouTube.
I can think of like five people that I talked about Epstein with who got kicked off of YouTube.
chase geiser
Have you done an Epstein interview with anybody like me where I basically have like never done anything to violate any terms?
Or are you, are these guys?
ryan dawson
It doesn't matter if you're violating terms.
They just get rid of you because they don't like what you're saying.
They'll just say hate speech and you're gone.
Right.
You're like, but I didn't advocate violence or ABCDF.
It doesn't matter.
Right.
Like there's no one to talk to.
It's just robots or robot people.
You don't get to argue.
They just cancel you because they want to and you have no recourse.
Yeah, she's in jail.
Yeah.
She's in prison.
She's in New York.
I don't know what they're going to do in November.
Like if she can really go to trial, she's going to have to plead bargain.
But this case, like 13 of them have been arrested in these pedophile rings.
John Lick Brunel's in jail.
Gaslin's in jail.
Epstein went to jail.
Keith Ranier and two of the Brompons went to jail.
Peter Nygaard's in jail.
And kind of Tertiary and in this ring, Harvey Weinstein, he's also in prison.
There's a list.
I made a map.
And all these people are going to prison or have been suicided or whatever, disappeared.
Others are stepping down from their positions, selling off their assets.
Like they got caught.
And as bad as the mob is and all, there's a line where even the most hardened like serial killers like, hey, we don't kill kids or rape kids.
Like we don't do that.
And so the pedophile aspect, if he had just stuck to getting like young women to blackmail politicians that were at least 18, I don't think it would even be news because it happens so much.
But the fact that he was dipping down to 12-year-olds and stuff makes it a big story.
And here's something that everyone needs to understand.
The public is scrambling for every scrap of news about Epstein.
They're very interested in the story.
And yet, nobody in the media is interested in the story.
They were only interested when there were pictures of Epstein with Donald Trump.
And when that went to a dead end, they're like, oh, it's not Trump?
Well, forget it.
And they haven't brought him up since.
Whatever you heard about Epstein's been online.
Because after the accosted Trump angle was worn out, they had no interest in covering the story at all.
And that's why he got arrested.
They thought this would be, this would lead back to Trump.
Now, Trump's ex-wife, Ivanka, not his daughter.
Yeah, Ivana, not Ivanka.
I just messed that up.
She did recruit girls with Maxwell, and she is a piece of shit.
Maxwell was in Japan in 2019 and in 2005.
She actually came over with Bill Clinton without Epstein.
It was Clinton and Maxwell came to Japan.
And I have someone that knows one of the translators.
So I'm going to try and talk to them about where they were and what they did.
But every scrap of Epstein information, everybody's hungry for it.
And it's weird.
Why?
Nobody.
Not in British media, American media.
No one will touch this.
chase geiser
Well, is it just impossible to get sources?
unidentified
I mean, if you're a journalist and you start making no, it's just so easy.
ryan dawson
I mean, we have all these victims that could be telling their stories.
We have the money laundering from Bear Stearns and Tower Financial.
Like people went to jail.
Other people did, not Epstein.
These things happened, but they don't care.
There's pictures of Bill Clinton and Maxwell and Epstein in the White House in 1993.
And they're paling around on these islands full of little kids.
It's disgusting.
Leon Black, Bill Gates, and Glenn Doom.
chase geiser
You think everybody associated with him was a pet, or do you think that some people just kind of like inconveniently fell into the trap of being photographed with him?
You know what I mean?
ryan dawson
No, just because there's a photo doesn't matter.
It's just saying they were lying about how long the relationship with the Clintons was.
And there they are photographed in the 90s, proving that they were there prior to them.
Because I think one of the things they blackmailed Bill Clinton to do was to hire James Woolsey to be director of the CIA because he's just a pro-Israel puppet.
Clinton hated him, didn't talk to him the whole time he was there, but he still did it.
chase geiser
What percentage of our Congress members, including Senate, do you think are compromised in that way?
ryan dawson
About 99.
chase geiser
For real?
ryan dawson
Yep.
chase geiser
How do they get him, though?
Because I know from, for example, for me, if I were to run for office of any kind at the federal level, there's nothing you could fucking do to get me to sleep with an underage kid or you're not going to win your election either.
unidentified
Right.
ryan dawson
Because the media and the donors are not going to support you.
They're going to support the guy they have compromised because he'll obey.
Dennis Haster, Speaker of the House, raping kids.
The two speakers of the house before him, both committing adultery.
Like, it's just normal.
And yeah, it's weird.
Like, why?
Most of them aren't sleeping with kids.
They're having extramarital affairs or something enough to they have to obey.
But the kiddie fucking is so disturbing because you think, why are all these hedge fund managers and stuff into this crap?
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
I don't care if it's the coolest 14-year-old in the world.
It just doesn't matter.
chase geiser
I don't care how good looking that 14-year-old is.
It's totally inappropriate.
ryan dawson
Why?
Yeah.
Why are so many people into that?
chase geiser
I don't know.
I can begin to explain it.
You know, with the Catholic Church, my thinking is that it goes all the way back to Roman Pederasty.
Like, I can come up with an explanation.
ryan dawson
Well, I can't super easy because it's usually boys.
And it's like, well, you have to be celibate to be a priest.
Well, every red-blooded heterosexual male is like, I'm not going to be a priest.
You can't have sex with women.
But if you're gay or secretly gay, you're like, that's not so bad.
I'm not going to do that anyway.
So they're attracted to the priesthood.
It's very easy to not mess around with women because you're not even attracted to them anyway.
But if you do that long enough, the sex drive is greater than the sex preference.
And they tittle around the little boys.
And then they make the mistake of instead of taking this on the chin, let's hide this and just send them over to this other church in another area because it makes us all look bad if this guy gets caught.
But that makes you look worse.
chase geiser
I'm covering it up.
Yeah.
ryan dawson
That's what the ADL did, like helping rapists and murderers get away with it because they thought it made Jews look bad.
It's like, that makes you look worse.
Because that was just all on them as an individual.
It had nothing to do with you.
But as an organization, you're coming in and trying to save Leon Frank, murdered little girls and raped a 13-year-old in a pencil factory.
That makes you look worse.
Why are you helping a criminal?
Fuck that guy.
You know, It makes BLM look bad when they're championing people like George Fentanel, like Eric Gardner or somebody.
That's an innocent man that was just choked to death.
It did nothing wrong at all.
I always sold a cigarette or something.
But Floyd pulling a gun on a pregnant lady, that's not my hill to die on.
You know, it's not like there's a shortage of actual brutal police crimes on innocent people of any color that you could point to.
So why do you go to that one?
Right.
chase geiser
There's that famous video of that kid crawling through the hotel hallway and he reaches behind to pull up his, you know, his athletic shorts.
ryan dawson
Yeah, they shot him.
chase geiser
This guy just shoots him dead.
ryan dawson
That was a white guy.
He was shooting a white kid.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
So if it had been a black kid and a white cop, it would have been all racism.
But it was just a white guy shooting another white guy, so they didn't care.
chase geiser
Right.
ryan dawson
But yeah, I mean, they shot through people's walls, killed people in their sleep.
I mean, they killed Alia Jones.
She was a seven-year-old black girl.
They broke into the wrong house and killed a seven-year-old who was sleeping on the couch, shot her in the neck, and beat up the grandmother.
And they were on one of those stupid cop shows.
The person they're looking for was like upstairs in another apartment or whatever.
He broke into a house and shot a child who was sleeping.
chase geiser
Daniel Shaver.
ryan dawson
No one knows her name.
They know Breonna Taylor because Breonna Taylor and her boyfriend shot a cop, right?
They picked the controversial one on purpose because it creates controversy because there's another side to it.
Like, well, she, they shot at the police or Floyd was high as hell.
But they don't pick the clear-cut case of like, here's a little girl sleeping on her couch that they murdered.
You don't hear that story or the story you're talking about, like Eric Schaefer, or I think that's who was in the hallway, or just somebody pulled over for speeding.
They make him get on his belly and taser him for no reason and then shoot him when he jumps up.
Like, fuck fucking cops are thugs sometimes.
But there's a lot of things in between no cops at all and some bad cops.
unidentified
Right.
ryan dawson
There's a lot of things.
Cops in Japan don't act like that.
It's not intrinsic to policing that they're always going to be bully culture or whatever.
But we get these low IQ, couldn't get a job doing nothing else, donut eating fuck tards that are given a bunch of weapons and are allowed to abuse people.
chase geiser
If you do anything and you don't pay them, they don't pay them shit.
So it doesn't attract, you know, competition.
ryan dawson
Yeah, you're not getting the most quality fucking people, college graduates going out to be police usually.
chase geiser
Or see, I was looking, I was looking online just out of curiosity at security positions at an Arizona prison, right?
And like all the positions they were hiring for was on this prison website.
And like guard 45 grand, but the prison psychologist, psychiatrist, 60 grand, 61 grand.
unidentified
I'm like, what kind of a fucking psychiatrist wants to make $61,000 a year?
chase geiser
Like you want a private practice, you can make several hundred thousand dollars a year, even in a small town if you're a good psychiatrist.
But like what kind of a psychiatrist chooses to work at the prison for $61,000 a year?
Like only the shittiest one.
So I don't know.
It's just, it's just interesting to me to see how these jobs that we think of as incredibly important are paid like they're the least important.
ryan dawson
Yeah.
And yet they'll pay the teachers union in New Jersey to put people in a room and do nothing who aren't even teaching school.
They're getting 80 grand.
chase geiser
And they're only working nine months a year when they work.
ryan dawson
No, they're not working at all.
You can't fire them because it costs more to fire them.
So they just have them go in the do nothing room five hours a day and collect a check.
Amazing.
That's New Jersey.
chase geiser
So is there any hope?
Because I love talking to you because you're fucking hilarious and you're really smart and you know a lot of shit.
But Jesus Christ, after about an hour of talking to you, I feel like the whole fucking world's just gone straight to hell.
unidentified
Like, what's where's the, where's the, where's the hope, man?
ryan dawson
Just marry an Asian and move.
Start a movement.
Yeah, we can flip it.
I mean, I think it's hubris.
They always sort of overplay their hand and then the pendulum goes the other way.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
And so, but I think all these issues from stopping war, human trafficking, all these things that we hate, they're all predicated on free speech.
If we don't have free media, a fair media to put these stories out and explain what happened, explain about voter fraud, coup exaggerations and all this, then none of it's going to matter.
Like the most important issue is saving free speech.
So we have to support real alternative platforms, Gab, VK, Odyssey, Bitchute, things like that, because you got Stockholm syndrome if you keep going back to YouTube, Twitter, Facebook.
They're just always going to abuse you and cancel you.
And as soon as your channel grows enough, they'll get rid of you.
Like, we were like, I haven't been banned yet.
I'm like, yeah, you don't even have 10,000 followers.
When you do, they'll get rid of you.
So, you know, I would be putting all copies of your show on Odyssey or a bit shoot.
You just start building that up now.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
Because you end up over there anyway.
We have to have alternative media or we're not going to win anything.
Trump got elected because they were not censoring socialist media enough.
And they were like, we can't have another 2016.
Like Google executives, Project Veritas bust them saying that out loud.
We can't have a repeat of 2016.
Don't let them communicate with each other.
We'll control the narrative and everything.
We'll hide Hunter's laptop.
We'll lie about this, this, and this.
Russian inclusion.
We'll call the president racist, xenophobic, every name in the book, every slur in the book to get rid of him.
Because he wasn't establishment enough.
And it's not like he was anti-establishment.
He sucked.
But he wasn't, he was nine out of 10, and they want 10 out of 10.
He wouldn't give them the war in Syria.
He wanted, he wasn't for indefinite illegal immigration.
And they're like, well, we got to get rid of him.
What's Biden do when he comes in?
HR1, get rid of voter ID.
Secondly, open the border, 100-day moratorium.
Come as many as you want, right?
And then he bombs Syria twice already.
He did exactly what Trump wouldn't do.
That's why they hated him.
chase geiser
Who do you think is actually running the show in the White House?
Because I have a hard time.
Hello, this is Biden.
Really?
ryan dawson
Yeah.
chase geiser
She's so hot, though.
ryan dawson
She looks like Cruella de Ville, that evil bitch that was skinning Dalmatians to make a fur coat.
chase geiser
Oh, I know Cruella devils.
Cruella devil.
ryan dawson
One of those stick cigarette things, whatever you call them.
That's that's Nancy.
chase geiser
Yeah, the filter.
They um, they remade that movie and they removed the cigarette thing from the character because Disney redid it and they don't want to promote smoking tobacco.
ryan dawson
Oh, yeah.
Skinning dogs is okay, but, you know, I don't have a cigarette.
chase geiser
Yeah, no shit.
Kids will smoke if they see this, but you know, skinning dogs to make awesome fashion.
Totally, totally okay.
ryan dawson
They leave that scene in Pinocchio with a kid turning into a donkey and screaming for his mom and stuff.
That's some traumatic, horrible shit to watch as a kid.
They don't care.
chase geiser
You know, I never saw Pinocchio.
ryan dawson
It's messed up stuff.
unidentified
But Namestrombo.
ryan dawson
Kind of the crap they did in the past.
You could never get away with.
chase geiser
It was funny shit, though.
ryan dawson
All cartoon characters have something wrong with them.
chase geiser
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You got to put the adult humor in there and just stay steady.
ryan dawson
Donald Ducks dressed like a sailor with no pants on.
Right.
Mickey does the opposite.
He's just wearing his short shorts everywhere and no top.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
They're all messed up, man.
Daffy Duck, definitely on lots of drugs.
chase geiser
You're good at it.
ryan dawson
Goofy's a drunk.
chase geiser
You do a whole podcast like that.
ryan dawson
Winnie DePoo, they're all on drugs, too.
Tigger's on speed.
Eeyore's an alcoholic.
You know.
unidentified
You're right.
ryan dawson
Pooh is just smoking weed.
He's always looking for something to eat and lay down.
unidentified
He none, thinking about nothing, getting lost.
chase geiser
Remember the episode where he gets stuck in the tree and then like days go by and he loses the weight to get out.
ryan dawson
They paint a smile on his butt, right?
chase geiser
I can't remember that part, but I'll believe you.
ryan dawson
Rabbit Sky.
Like, what do I do?
I'll hang a picture on it.
Whatever.
He's like, she drawls on his ass like a smiley face and like, we'll just pretend like it's a painting.
chase geiser
So do you think all this woke shit that we're going through right now is do you think it's intentional or do you think it's just happening because our culture has shifted?
ryan dawson
It's conditioning.
If you go to a school, not just university, go to any school.
All they talk about is racist, sex, and identity stuff.
Because it's easy, you don't have to learn anything.
I guarantee you, if you went around with a blank map, if you went to California, which is the dumbest of the dumb, and you had a blank map, and you said, Where is Washington, D.C.?
20% of them wouldn't be able to give you the answer, maybe more.
They could not find their own capital in their own country.
And I'm talking about adults.
chase geiser
Ignorant and dumb are too stupid.
ryan dawson
High school graduates.
You got to have, I know, but you got a bit of both.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
ryan dawson
Okay, you're ignorant of the capital, but you can reason this out.
Do you know where Washington is?
I mean, you know where all the other 50 states are.
Which one, by deduction?
I mean, come on.
Come on.
unidentified
You got to know where DC is.
ryan dawson
Blank map.
I swear you could label it and they couldn't find it.
Some of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
ryan dawson
It's amazing.
They're like, I don't know that shit.
They're proud of their ignorance.
It's willful ignorance.
And you could say it's right there.
And two days later, they've already forgotten because they're dumb on top of being ignorant.
chase geiser
Yeah.
ryan dawson
You know, someone told them where it was.
They just weren't listening and didn't care.
You know, it's stupidity.
It really is.
chase geiser
I think you frowned.
Yeah, I'm still here by the way.
I just got to reset this camera.
It overheats after a while.
ryan dawson
I got to bounce when we can do another show on episodes.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
chase geiser
No, I understand.
unidentified
Thank you.
ryan dawson
I'm burning up here with no AC.
chase geiser
Thank you so much for coming on, man, for such a long time.
I appreciate you.
It was really good to have you.
We could talk to you for hours.
I know that there's a million people out there that feel that way.
So I'm just grateful that you let me be the one to do it tonight.
So and this morning for you.
So thank you, man.
I truly appreciate you.
ryan dawson
Fuck the government.
Peace.
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