One American - Chase Geiser - Ian Miles Cheong: Elections, Wokeism, Cryptocurrency & Dating In 2021

May 20, 2021 - One American - Chase Geiser

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Ian Miles Cheong: Elections, Wokeism, Cryptocurrency & Dating In 2021 | One American Podcast #2

Chase Geiser is joined by Ian Miles Cheong. Ian is an influencer and commentator who says the quiet part out loud.   EPISODE LINKS:  Ian's Twitter: https://twitter.com/stillgray Chase's Twitter: https://twitter.com/realchasegeiser  PODCAST INFO:  Podcast website: https://www.patreon.com/IAmOneAmerican

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	I think one thing that people really miss, especially with this whole um January 6th insurrection argument that's going on is the reason that people believe the election wasn't legitimate.
	Isn't because Trump said it was a fraud.
	It's because the media lied about everything else.
	Exactly.
	It's like social media helped it along, right?
	You have Google pushing only news of a certain nature there.
	I mean, Google is forcing you to believe that you know Hillary was a rightful winner and that a Russians stole the election.
	I mean, if if you went on Google News every single day up until I would say 2020, you know, all the news articles every single day were Russia this, Russia that, Russian collusion, and they pushed it to the top.
	We choose to go to the moon and this decay and do the other thing, not because they are easy, but because they are hard.
	Mr. Gorbachev tears down this wall.
	A date which will live in infamy.
	I still have a dream.
	Good man.
	So um I was trying to look up your background a little bit, and um all I could really find was a bunch of um trash articles about gamergate.
	Basically, uh it's it's the haters, you know, it's the haters.
	They're so what's your story?
	Like uh um you have a background in um like game reviews and stuff like that.
	Tell me tell me a little bit.
	Yeah, what's my trajectory?
	Well, my trajectory is is is interesting, right?
	Uh patting myself in the back here, it's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Um, I used to be like a ho a hobbyist, uh web developer slash, you know, game fan site type guy.
	I mean, I was a kid, right?
	I was a kid, I was like maybe 16, 17, 18, whatever, making gaming fan sites.
	You know, the back in the day that was like the thing, right?
	I mean, unless you worked for like say IGN or something, which by the way, employs people that age, uh, you're gonna work on a gaming fan site.
	So, you know, that was my background, and then it landed me a position in the game industry where I worked in uh and game publishing for a couple of years, right?
	Um, but then I realized, you know, I mean, this uh well, the job itself was not that interesting.
	So I got out of it and I got into publishing online, you know, like doing blogs, video games, things like that.
	And this is before YouTube.
	Um, this is before I couldn't even afford a camera.
	So you know, otherwise I'd be like a big YouTuber or something right now.
	But um, I made my living doing game reviews and you know, it it's like it's funny you watch these game journalists weighing in on Palestine and Israel, and I'm like, you guys write reviews for Destiny 2.
	You write guides for video games.
	What are you talking about?
	You know, you you don't know a damn thing about politics.
	Stop it, right?
	Right, right.
	You just got done dragging an alligator all through the Red Dead Redemption 2.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	Like that's their job, right?
	That their their job is very simple.
	It's just to, you know, to to play video games and to write about them.
	It's not that complicated.
	And they can't even do that, right?
	They gotta insert politics into it.
	So uh I got into game reviews and and and gaming news.
	It you know, I would call it journalism, it's not, right?
	But I was a bit outspoken, you know, like so during the Gamergate era, I was actually on the side of the anti-Gamergate people.
	I was on the side of, you know, Anita Sarkeesian, Zoe Quinn.
	Like Zoe Quinn was like a good friend, for example, right?
	We were all tight.
	And you know, this was like the beginnings of cancel culture, right?
	And it was clear from the uh, I would say maybe not from the onset, because from the onset, you know, you had a bunch of um random people, you know, like uh anime avatars and sort of thing, harassing um female game developers, for example.
	And you know, what they did was wrong, but then the games media, they turned it into this whole narrative about how video gamers are over, you know, like the game companies need to stop catering to straight white males because you know they're all sexist and racist, and like that was not true, clearly.
	And you know, I was uh I was not really concerned about alienating my audience because you know I still wrote about video games, but I didn't like what they were doing, what they were saying about gamers in general.
	I mean, about consumers, because they would complain about something and it would be like the most nothing topic, right?
	And then they wouldn't turn it into an attack on gamers.
	For instance, when uh EA games, you know, like that, they love to sell microtransactions.
	A lot of people complained about microtransactions and they would write to do so because I mean they were milking gamers for all their worth.
	And this is back in the day when you know you release a video game and you've got like 10 instant microtransactions, you've got to pay an extra 500 just to get all the game's content, which is really bad, Right.
	People complained about it.
	And the games media came to the defense of the game industry.
	And I, you know, it's at this point where I realized, okay, these guys, you know, they're uh they're just anti-gamer for the sake of of being anti-gamer and started writing op-eds at uh at Heat Street, which was a news corp owned site, right?
	Uh at first it was op-eds, and then I realized, you know, I don't really like gaming news so much.
	I mean, it's not super interesting.
	It's it's it's boring basic stuff.
	I'd rather talk about politics.
	And you know, being someone who is a well-read person, I think, I was able to start writing news for them.
	And that's when I became like a proper journalist, I guess.
	I don't I still don't call myself a journalist.
	I'm more of an opinions guy, right?
	Right, right.
	Well, so are the journalists.
	So the journalists, yeah, they call themselves journalists, but there's nothing objective about them.
	I mean, they're obviously real journalists and they get attacked, right?
	I mean, look at those uh Daily Caller guys who uh uh who went to all these BLM protests and they they took video and yeah, it makes Antifa look bad, makes BLM look bad, and the intercept, which are so-called real journalists, right?
	And uh a story about how these guys are driving the right-wing movement against BLM.
	It's like, come on, they're doing journalism, they're not even offering commentary, they're just there, you know.
	Yeah, and I've I found that when um when I listen to journalists whom I consider to be real journalists.
	Um, I'm not as pissed off uh when I disagree with them because at least I've I trust that they've done the intellectual due diligence to to try to get to the bottom of stuff.
	So like I don't always agree with um uh Glenn Greenwald, for example, but I really respect them.
	And so it's not like frustrating in the same sense as it is when you see um uh some white house correspondent just talking trash for no reason about some issue that they don't know what they're talking about.
	It's that's and so I think that we're really lacking in terms of um uh where we could be with journalism, especially in the United States.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, and this is something I think Tim Poole highlighted years ago, where he said something along the lines of how journalists have become activists and uh they are putting their activism into their journalistic work.
	And on top of that, and and this was like the meat, the crux of his uh his argument here, is that they're all mentally ill, you know, they're always complaining about being tired, about being fatigued, about being, you know, they're always tired.
	You notice that?
	Like they're all like, I'm so tired, I'm so tired.
	It's like, well, maybe take a break then, you know.
	I mean, but they're like unable to take a break because of their emotional labor, right?
	They're always uh they've got issues, they've got alcoholism, you know, they have uh uh mental problems, they're they're suffering from all sorts of uh, you know, depression and and so on.
	And I won't really get into it, but like these guys are putting their mental illnesses, their their fatigue or whatever, into their articles, and it really shows they're making society ill, right?
	That's exactly what they're doing.
	And you can quite see that I mean you can see this quite clearly with their coverage of lockdowns, right?
	I mean, you have both the New York Times uh um lockdown reporter, you know, she covers all of the the whole beat, as well as like I think the Toronto Sun or something.
	Maybe it wasn't not the Toronto Sun, it was one of the liberal publications in Canada, where you have these two journalists just you know, I'm just singling them out.
	And they're like crazy.
	They're wearing like three masks.
	One of them was complaining about how she forces her kids to wear masks in the house.
	I mean, this is not normal behavior.
	And and they're putting this in their articles, their coverage of it is so so slanted, right?
	They're unable to view things objectively, and they don't want to.
	They'll even admit that object objectivity is like a bad thing.
	You know, and now, you know, with critical race theory, objectivity is white supremacy, right?
	It's one of the 12 facets of it.
	It's like, what are you guys doing?
	You know, you're not really journalists, you're activists and you're masquerading as journalists and you're winning awards for it because you're activists, and you know, the whole Pulitzer Council has been completely taken over, much like everything else with all these woke people who will, you know, pat each other on the back for promoting social justice, right?
	They think it's their duty.
	It's it's it's uh it's white guilt or white saviorism 2.0 is what it is.
	Yeah, that's really interesting.
	And I think another aspect of it too, of course, is the medium has changed so much.
	Uh you know, 50 years ago, if you wanted to be a journalist, there's only so much real estate on a newspaper.
	So they had to edit and select the stuff that they wanted to publish.
	But now, since it's all click-oriented for ad revenue, um, and there's there's infinite medium to publish on, people just throw stuff out constantly to try to see what's going to go viral.
	So you just have this whole rash of shit basically that gets published constantly when um, you know, back in the day there was just a few pages in a newspaper, and so the editors could put the the right content out.
	Basically, I mean, uh, I don't know if you know what this website called Mike.com, right?
	It was um funded by all these Harvard grads, you know, they they they just threw their money into it to prove to be like uh activist at journalism.
	And their writers were complaining about it.
	This is when it was shutting down, you know.
	I think they they haven't really shut down shutdown, but back when they were firing everybody, you know, there there was like some leaked memos and stuff that came out, some leaked emails.
	And it was all these uh, I would say woke journalists who went to work there thinking they could promote their woke stuff.
	And the editors were like, Oh, we don't want you to write good news.
	We don't want you to cover, you know, uh some story about just a problem.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, they're like, oh, we're not interested in your story about how some uh some black uh business owner uh created like a rooftop business and he's making a lot of money in Colorado.
	Like we're not interested in these good stories.
	We're only interested if he is if he has like faced racial discrimination.
	Did you talk to him?
	Did he face any racists?
	It's like and and even these woke people didn't want to write about it, and yet they were forced to by their editors because the editors are still looking at the money, right?
	They're looking at the clicks and they see that well, you know, a story uh uh a feel good story about a black man opening a business is not exactly gonna get any traffic.
	But if a black man opening a business gets uh faced down by uh a guy in a white hood, then maybe, you know.
	Yeah, it's crazy.
	And well, we saw a lot of that with this this last campaign in particular, um, too, just the incessant push uh for Biden.
	Um it was it was so obvious.
	And I, you know, I used to, I always knew that the the media was um less than outstanding, but it wasn't until Trump won in 2016, it was election night.
	I distinctly remember it.
	Um, because I was working on another campaign at the time.
	Uh when he won, I was like, holy shit, they lied.
	Because I thought Hillary was gonna win for sure because all the polls, we hadn't had the an election before where it was it was so exaggerated what the outcome was going to be.
	And it was the margin of error was such that they didn't just make a mistake, like they knew that the polls weren't accurate and they've been lying the whole time.
	So ever since then, it's been really hard for me to trust media.
	And I think one thing that people really miss, especially with this whole um January 6th insurrection argument that's going on, is the reason that people believe the election wasn't legitimate.
	The reason they believe it was a fraud isn't because Trump said it was a fraud.
	It's because the media lied about everything else.
	Exactly.
	It's like social media helped it along, right?
	You have Google pushing only news of a certain nature there.
	I mean, Google is forcing you to believe that you know Hillary was a rightful winner and that Russians stole the election.
	I mean, if if you went on Google News every single day up until I would say 2020, you know, all the news articles every single day were Russia this, Russia that, Russian collusion, and they pushed it to the top.
	I mean, that this is to uh delegitimize Trump, right?
	That that's exactly what they did.
	And and and now we know clearly that the Russian collusion thing never happened, there was no such thing, and yet they're still going at it because they got got to maintain that big lie, right?
	They love using the term big lie because Hitler said it sometime ago, you know.
	And it's like, well, you guys are the ones pushing it, and it's this is all projection.
	And you realize that, and somehow you're saying Trump is guilty of it.
	Well, you know, he he may be misled into thinking that you know that he won the election.
	I don't think he he did.
	I think that there were some erroneous uh um counts here and there, and that's why we're doing audits now in like in Arizona, and I think that should be done, you know, completely.
	It'll be interesting to see what what the outcome of that is.
	But you know, beyond that, I think it's when people say that the election was a fraud or something, they're not even necessarily talking about uh voting machines or or Linwood or anything like that.
	They're just talking about how the media lied to people and you know, they made the coronavirus seem a lot worse than it actually was.
	They covered up Hunter Biden, they did.
	Yep, they censor people, you know.
	This is what people are really talking about, right?
	Yeah, it's not the conspiracy stuff, you know.
	People are not most people are not, you know, gonna go to uh 8chan or 4chan or something to to read conspiracy theories.
	They're not gonna regurgitate that.
	They're normal sane people who are seeing, you know, who are seeing uh uh uh uh the media uh pulling wool over their eyes and telling them that this is what reality is as well.
	It's not, you know, it's not yeah, and I I kind of came to the same conclusion.
	I don't think that that I don't think that there was an overwhelming amount of actual cheating in the election.
	There might have been some, I'm sure there always is.
	Sure.
	And from both sides.
	Um, but I do think it was unbelievably cheap the way the Democrats won by changing all the rules and using COVID as the excuse to do it.
	It's like if you're playing a game of monopoly with your friends, you can't just change the rules in the middle of the game.
	Like I don't like I don't like the idea of changing election laws and rules in the middle of an election like it seems like that should be something that should only be pushed forward to another cycle and I know that it was a national emergency but they knew when they mailed out ballots what that was going to mean and they knew and none of the Republicans at the state level or the federal level level really had the balls to to say anything about it.
	And that was sort of the beginning of my disenfranchisement with the GOP because, you know, I don't consider myself a Republican, but I do always vote for Republicans.
	So other people would consider me one.
	But I'm just so pissed off at how weak all the leadership was in handling the situation.
	It was just like a handful of people who were trying to handle it, like David Schaefer.
	He's a Georgia Republican, right?
	He was doing a great job.
	you know he his voice falls in deaf ears right I mean he Brad Raffensberger doesn't necessarily uh listen to him right that this is this is the issue right they don't take these things seriously until it is like way too late.
	It's like the same thing with critical race theory.
	Like right now, Christopher Rufo is doing an amazing job, right?
	He's exposing critical race theory, but it still doesn't go far enough because, you know, even after they implement these laws, those teachers are still going to be teaching their alternate, uh, alternative, uh, education streams.
	They're still going to be doing that to students.
	And that is the next step, right?
	After this legislation is put into place, you got to do more than that.
	We can't just say, oh yeah, it's the law.
	It's done.
	It's illegal, blah, blah, blah.
	I mean, castrating your child is illegal in Michigan, and yet, you you know a small group of people still do it because it's part of their religion right so you know like it doesn't matter if it's the law if it's not enforced then it's useless right right it's a it's funny because I was reading about um the uh revolutionary war on Wikipedia.
	I spend like hours on Wikipedia when I'm trying to fall asleep.
	It's awesome.
	And, um, I went down the federal reserve banking, uh, that was, that was like six hours.
	My wife wanted to kill me, but, um, it's funny because, uh, I was reading about the legality of the revolutionary war and, um, I I'm paraphrasing, but I thought it was so cool.
	Cause it, there was a passage on, on Wikipedia where it said, uh, scholars have determined that the legality of the Revolutionary War was deemed irrelevant the moment we won.
	laughter I was like that is so badass.
	It's like yeah maybe it was a I mean certainly this is all George's but if you if you if it's not enforced or the law is not enforceable then it's no longer it's irrelevant it's no longer the law exactly and that that should be our goal right we should not be clinging to the letter of the law.
	I mean, we should be winning, right?
	We should be focused on winning.
	And this is what I liked about Trump.
	This is what I loved about Trump is that, and DeSantis at this point, right?
	He's focused on winning.
	He's not focused on the irrelevancies of, you know, what's going to happen if they take it to court.
	Like, this is why I support, say, DeSantis over, say, someone like Kristi Noem, because DeSantis just straight up bans CRTs, straight up lifts the mask mandates, straight up bans putting, you know, transgender people in girls'sports, right?
	He just straight up banned it.
	He didn't think about the law, nothing, right?
	He didn't think, oh, you know, like, the the NCAA is gonna sue me you didn't think about that whereas Chrissy noam is like well you know we're a small state we're just South Dakota we don't have the money to fight the NCAA it's like yeah you do when they sue you your people will come to your defense and they will back you up they will support any effort to preserve the sanctity of girl sports right and that that's what people will do.
	You just need to ask for help.
	And she was like, you know, just caught up in the whole, oh, it's the legality of it is questionable.
	It might go to the Supreme Court.
	It's like, maybe think about that later.
	Worry about this now, you know?
	Right.
	Right.
	So what do you think the outcome of all this is going to be?
	How do you think this is going to play out over the next decade?
	Well, it's going to be interesting.
	I think the majority of people, you know, in America or even on the planet oppose the wokeness, right?
	They did a poll recently in the UK, mind you, they asked people, are you woke?
	the majority it was like 57% of people said I don't know what wokeness is and the the others were like it was something like 30% said I I'm not woke and then only like 14% said I'm woke.
	So they're a small minority of people you know it's like one out of 10 people is woke right online people.
	People forget that only like one in five American adults even uses Twitter.
	So when something's trending on Twitter 80% of America doesn't give a shit.
	You know, it's it's it's it's not like it's not um it's not a good focus group for these politicians, and they're totally allowing themselves to be guided by it because that's just the psychological reaction to the endorphins, I guess, that you get from from post-inviral shit.
	I mean, you when you have Rush Limbaugh show, and he has more listeners.
	I'm talking dozens of millions of people listening to him, you know, when he was alive, right?
	Back in the day, he had a larger audience than any of these people on Twitter, right?
	They may get a hundred thousand retweets.
	It doesn't matter.
	You know, Rush Limbaugh is getting millions and millions and millions of people who agree with him, right?
	So this is the the bulk of America does not agree with what is on Twitter.
	They don't agree with all the the woke culture, what's put on MTV, what's put on uh NBC or CBS or or Netflix or anything like that.
	They don't agree with it.
	And that's why, you know, like the NBA, for example, is uh declining in viewership.
	I mean, it's got some of the lowest ratings ever, and it's not because of the pandemic, you know.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I think it's interesting.
	I was thinking about this last week.
	I'd be interested to know what you think.
	Um, you know, the the Republican Party sort of has a reputation for being um old, cantankerous um white dudes, and I think that's a false representation.
	I think what's happening is those are the only Republicans that feel like they can tweet because they're retired.
	It's like everyone else is worried about losing their jobs, so you have they are uh, you know, and the only reason I'm so diligent um about uh what I think on Twitter is because I'm self-employed, so nobody can fire me, you know.
	Right, yeah, but if I had a job, I my Twitter would be worried about it.
	I'd be the yeah, I'd have the eggshell profile from forever ago, and I would just be I'd be following you and maybe seek maybe liking tweets every once in a while.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, it's the same thing for a lot of people, right?
	And I just wish that they would all speak out at once.
	You know, it's not gonna happen, but spite pream, right?
	That everybody just speaks up and is like we reject canceled culture, we reject wokeness.
	That's it, never gonna happen because people are cowards, you know, and they have to deal with the realities of losing their job.
	But it'd be nice if they did that, you know.
	You know, so unfortunately is it's up to people like us, I guess, you know, who are able to say these things, who are able to speak out loud and say the quiet part out loud, uh, that you know that emboldens them, right?
	Hopefully that's what's happening.
	Hopefully, we are you know moving the um the the overton window to make these conversations possible, you know, with podcasts like this, for example, or what we just say on Twitter, we're made we're showing people that it is possible, it's okay to say certain things that you should not be canceled over it and shouldn't want you shouldn't worry about it because most people agree with you anyway.
	Yeah, and I and I think uh another one of the uh major struggles that um that our side of the spectrum has sort of politically is we're in an environment where the opposition is able to totally frame the narrative and brand us because the and I'm not like I said, I'm not a Republican, but I refer to you know, I use the word we and us a lot when I speak about Republicans.
	Obviously, yeah, it's right to keep it simple.
	Yeah, so so um I wish that we the party would figure out a way to just kick ass in branding.
	And I feel like the Democrats, as much as I despise the vast majority of their candidates, they always do a badass job with branding, not necessarily for a whole campaign, but there's always moments of brilliant branding within a campaign.
	So for example, Elizabeth Warren wound up being a disaster, but she was hot for a second before she before it went straight to hell after the DNA test, right?
	So they're so good at at um uh at first impressions, they're just so bad at lasting policy.
	Yeah, like look at Beto, right?
	Beto's another great example where you know he comes out swinging against Ted Cruz, you know, he's a tall lanky guy who you know uh is very much an ally to the to the Mexicans or or whatever, right?
	And yeah, and he's like everybody's like, Wow, look at this guy, he's like a woke warrior, you know, we want him because you know they're progressives, right?
	Anthony Wiener, same thing, same thing, right?
	Yeah, and now it's like, well, they're a bunch of losers, is is really what they are.
	Same same thing with um uh booty uh uh booty judge, right?
	I mean, he comes out swinging he's like a smart, well-spoken individual, you know, he he's handling himself really well during the debates, he's crushing the opposition.
	He's like the first smart guy on the stage.
	Oh my god, he knows the policies.
	And now you listen to him, and it's like, well, he's an idiot.
	He's actually fake riding his bike.
	Yes, like what is he doing?
	Did you know that his net worth was only a hundred grand when he ran for president?
	That's not a lot.
	I know, not for a presidential candidate, is it?
	No, but in America, the average 30-year-old has a net worth of seven grand.
	Wow.
	I know, I know.
	So I'm like, so this inflation thing is gonna be a major problem.
	Yeah, people are talking like openly and honestly about putting UBI, and I'm like, who's gonna pay for it?
	You want the rich people to pay for it?
	Do you realize there's such a thing as capital flight?
	They can just leave.
	Yeah, people Can just leave.
	They'll go to Barbados.
	Here's the thing though.
	They don't even have to, they won't even raise taxes to fund it.
	They'll just sell bonds to the Fed to pay for it.
	So they'll just increase the debt and then the Fed will print money to buy the bonds, and that devalues the currency.
	So yeah, you might get your universal basic income, but your money's not going to be worth anything.
	So you're in the same exact situation.
	That's why all these all these leftist politicians they're talking about increases in minimum wage, UBI, all these benefits.
	All they're doing is exploiting a problem, and then offering a solution that seems to help, but actually makes the problem worse.
	So they don't have to change their platform when they run for re-election.
	Absolutely not.
	That's why.
	Yeah, you're not poor because Elon Musk is rich, rich.
	No one's poor because Elon Musk is rich, except for maybe the except for maybe the Ford executives.
	Yeah.
	Or who are rich anyway.
	They're rich anyway.
	Yeah, they're just not as rich as they could be because of Elon Musk.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So what do you think about the Elon and all this um this this Bitcoin stuff that's been going on the past couple weeks?
	I think that the that people here, I mean, they they depend too much on his opinions.
	I don't think he's at fault for calling out Bitcoin.
	Bitcoin does use way too much electricity, right?
	It just does.
	Coal mines in in China are powering Bitcoin.
	That's a problem.
	That means that the majority of Bitcoin is controlled by the Chinese, right?
	They're the ones mining it.
	Same Ethereum, right?
	And do you think they banned it today in order to in order to uh um buy back by the drop?
	Um no, they've always banned it.
	That's okay.
	That's I didn't I don't I'm not very educated on the Yeah, like a lot of people are saying, Oh, they're just banned it today.
	Oh my god, China's clamping down on Bitcoin.
	It's like, no, the the law has already been in place since like 2017.
	It's been around a while.
	They're just reiterating because you know they're financial institutions, they may be thinking, oh, we're gonna get into Bitcoin.
	We see that it's going up and up and up, so maybe we're gonna try to get into it, you know.
	Like, and so China has to put a foot down and be like, well, you're not gonna de you're not going to devalue the yuan by tying it to Bitcoin.
	That's like a horrible idea.
	So they don't want the financial institutions to do that.
	And likewise, I don't think banks should be getting into it because it's supposed to be decentralized finance.
	When you have big banks getting into it, what they're doing is they're tying the US dollar directly to the Bitcoin, and that's not a great idea because it volatile market, right?
	Uh like in the long run, maybe that might make sense, right?
	Because uh decentralized finance is gonna be the future, especially the rise of Africa.
	That's where you know Cardano comes in because they're dealing with these African governments who don't really have stable currencies to begin with, and they're saying, hey, Cardano's a great alternative, and it, you know, it's better, it's safe, right?
	So that's one thing.
	But in general, I think China sit what it said, you know, just reiterate its uh its position.
	But also, yeah, I mean, there's no reason why, you know, like a bunch of Chinese people are not gonna just necessarily buy up the Bitcoin when it's low.
	Of course they will.
	They're billionaires, they're gonna do that, right?
	Right, but it's not necessarily a coordinated CCP effort.
	It's it's just sort of a okay, it's the invisible hand.
	Yeah, it's invisible hand of the market, you know, just realigning itself.
	And I mean, to be honest, it went way up way too fast.
	I mean, within a span of what like two weeks, three weeks, it went from 40,000 to 60,000.
	I mean, come on, that's it.
	Well, and a lot of that was just due to to um uh memes Tesla.
	Well, memes and Tesla announcing that they were gonna, you know, accept.
	But I just thought it was I think it's really interesting, and I can't quite figure out why Tesla was all in, and then within two weeks they pivoted it away.
	You you'd think that they would have had that sort of anticipation that they were gonna change their mind about an issue like that.
	And it's not like they didn't know that it was a major drain on the energy sector when they bought it.
	Here's the thing.
	I mean, if you read Elon Musk's full message, and this is something that a lot of people have just ignored, they only saw the hitlines, you know, they're like, oh, Elon's pulling out of Bitcoin.
	If you read it, he said he said that we're not giving up on crypto.
	We believe the future is in cryptocurrency.
	We're just not sure it is Bitcoin because Bitcoin is expensive.
	It's uh it's it's you know, it's kind of a useless currency.
	I mean, all you do is trade with it, you don't really do anything else with it.
	Whereas you look at something like uh like uh like Cardano or Ethereum, you can put contracts in there, you can put smart contracts, you can build software on it.
	You can build software on it, exactly.
	Ethereum, it does have uh like a an app uh market space, right?
	It it does exist.
	So Bitcoin doesn't Have such a thing like that.
	I mean, you're if you're using the Bitcoin network, you are you know using way too much electricity, costs way too much to run.
	And you know, like say what you will about climate change or whatever, but pollution is a real issue, right?
	And and using electricity that is just not efficient.
	I mean, why would you do that?
	It's like using LED lights, which you know run on less than one watt compared to something from say 50 years ago, those those light.
	But the incandescent bulbs are so pretty.
	Yeah, they're so pretty, they're so right.
	But it's 50 watts.
	That's like you, you know, you're you're watching your TV and you're playing a PlayStation 4.
	It uses less electricity than an incandescent light bulb.
	Think about it.
	I didn't realize that.
	That's wild.
	Yeah, right.
	And I'm talking old at TVs, they're not running at more than 50, you know, they're running at like 20 or something, plus the PlayStation 4, that's running about 30.
	So altogether it's like 50, and that's only on high load.
	I mean, if you just keep it on or you just watch Netflix, you're not using much electricity.
	Whereas you put the incandescent light bulb on for like you know, two hours, and boom, you've already like spent your whole day's worth of of watching TV.
	It's terrible.
	Wow, it's the same thing with Bitcoin, you know.
	Like the the transfer rates are slow, it's expensive, it uses so much electricity.
	You compare that to something newer, like uh, yeah, I keep mentioning Cardano because I believe in it, but it uses less than 0.01% of the electricity uh to transfer money.
	You're not gonna, you know, it's not gonna cost a lot to just transfer money to somebody else, and that's what makes something like that.
	And there's like a few others, you know, there's link, there's uh there's nano and so on, and and all these, you know, they don't use much electricity because they're built on being sustainable, right?
	And Bitcoin is not Bitcoin was kind of an experiment, right?
	It was like a thought experiment, and it just somehow took off.
	Yeah, who do you think Satoshi is?
	Satoshi is I mean, probably is who he says he is.
	I mean, I'm not I don't think it really matters.
	I think the whole thing is.
	I just think it's interesting.
	I mean, obviously it doesn't matter.
	Bitcoin's Bitcoin with or without Satoshi, but it's it's just fascinating.
	It's this yeah, this you know, anonymous, mysterious, brilliant person changed the world, you know, with a post with a white paper.
	It could very well be you know, Charles Hoskinson, right?
	It it the guy who created Ethereum, right?
	It could be him, it could be better, like Buterin.
	Like they it may have been like a whole group of people who created this enigmatic Japanese programmer, right?
	And and put out this white paper as a group and then decided that okay, it works, you know, and now we're gonna go our own separate ways and do our own thing, you know.
	And that's where Ethereum came in, right?
	I mean, we don't know, right?
	I mean, but it makes sense that it want to use someone enigmatic.
	And what is more cyberpunked in Japan, honestly, right?
	Satoshi, like old Japanese gentleman, like really, like, no, I mean, it's gonna be a guy in his 20s or 30s, you know.
	There's no way it's like some 60-year-old Japanese programmer bullshit.
	Speaking of the cyberpunk, did you watch uh altered carbon?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I watched the first season.
	The second season I didn't watch by a whole lot of good.
	I didn't watch the second season for that very reason, but I thought the first season was so awesome.
	It's phenomenal, yeah.
	Yeah, I read the books, I love the books, right?
	The ones by Richard Morgan, the fantastic.
	Yeah.
	Uh there's a lot of stuff cut out, like it's very anti-religious.
	Like the books.
	Well, I mean, even Canical of Leibowitz is sort of anti-religious.
	That's like one of the first one of the most famous sci-fi novels ever.
	Um, right.
	Yeah, that's read.
	It's not even in the uh the show, right?
	I mean, it's like barely in there, right?
	Like they don't talk about the the long beards or whatever they're called.
	Basically, they're like a combination of Muslims and Christians and Jews, right?
	Right.
	And they're like maybe not Jews, but Muslims and Christians, like super hardcore fundamentalists who you know hate who hate life itself, basically, right?
	They they want to kill people who have the stacks in them.
	Yeah, like they don't put them in the in the show at all.
	I mean, you have the Catholics who are like objecting to it, but the Catholics were in the book and they were not like bad people or anything like that.
	It was just more of like the more hardcore version of them that it's it's just not even in the show, which you know, unfortunate because there's like a build-up to it in the uh in the books, you know, in the third one, it's like they're the main bad guys.
	Yeah, I'll have to read that.
	I'll have to read those.
	I haven't read them.
	I'd I'd love to read those.
	My wife and I have been while are fans of handmaid's tale.
	Um, despite how uh despite how cliche it is to be a fan of handmaid's tale.
	I love anything post-apocalyptic.
	Uh it's cool, yeah.
	Yeah, and um uh it's funny to me because when I was watching it for the first time when the first season came out, I thought, man, this is basically the left's vision of what a Christian Sharia law would look like.
	It's like, is this what everybody who isn't Christian thinks Christianity wants?
	Like that's what they think, yeah.
	It's just like maybe maybe that's like a handful of people want that, you know, those strat calf, zoomer uh uh based red filled types, right?
	But they're teenagers, I don't care what they think.
	Yeah, like they their opinions don't matter, they're incels.
	It's true, it's true.
	No, and they they openly say it, they're like, Oh, I'm an insel.
	It's like, yeah, yeah, we know, you know, like we know.
	We know why would you brag about that?
	That's just a funny thing, okay?
	So, like the whole TradCaf Zoomer culture, whatever it's called, right?
	Uh, it it comes from incel forums.
	And And you know, incels are basically just mad at the world because they can't get late, right?
	They they've never had a female friend in their life, so they don't know what women are actually like.
	And so they develop this hatred of women.
	Now it's metastasized into incels into vols.
	So they're like voluntarily celibate.
	You know, like the like the Mictaw guys, like the men going their own way, guys.
	Exactly like them.
	Yeah, like it's they're like a younger version of them, right?
	The Mic Dows, you know, they originally they started as just divorced dads who just pissed off at the dating scene, right?
	And then eventually just started to hate women.
	Uh, and now they're men going their own way.
	It's like, well, you guys are, you know, you're you're just playing victim.
	And and yeah, so it's it's a sort of like the whole TradCav Zoomer thing, it's like an inversion of incels, right?
	They're still in cells, but they're reclaiming it.
	They're saying, oh no, we choose to be in cells, right?
	That's what they're doing.
	And it's just it's like, well, I think it's a supply and demand trick.
	They think if they take away the supply, the demand will go up.
	But it's like, no, no, no, there's no lot of supply.
	Yeah, nobody wants you.
	Yeah, nobody wants you.
	You know, we're not no one's interested in you.
	And you know, obviously, you have like the little pickney girls, you know, who who show up and they're like, Oh, I'm I'm uh I'm a uh uh a trad wife.
	It's like really you're not only fans.
	What are you talking about?
	In their defense, in in the uh the uh Volsa is a Vol Cell, voluntary celebrated.
	Is that what the groups are?
	Yeah, Voltaire.
	And they're in their defense, it would be incredibly difficult to date women today.
	Like I feel so grateful that I'm married because I can't imagine um like going up and approaching women in a public environment.
	You can't hit on anybody you work with.
	You never know, right?
	You run into a feminist in your life.
	It's like let's just stare raped her.
	Oops, yeah, exactly, right?
	So I guess with the dating apps, it's a little bit easier because there's sort of like that mutual consent interaction ever happens.
	But imagine if dating apps didn't exist and we still had this culture around sexual dynamics between men and women.
	Like, I feel like no dudes would be getting laid except for like one or two just with all of them, you know.
	Right, yeah, yeah.
	You know what I noticed is that there's like a rise now in arranged uh relationships, you know, arranged by who uh by you know, uh in-between people, you know, like uh matchmakers, yeah, right.
	Yeah, and they're they're basically saying, okay, so you don't want to do the dating scene, and you just want to find somebody like and this is for like people in the 30s, you know.
	Like, I don't think you really see people in the twenties doing this, but people in the 30s are like, well, I'm successful, I have a job, I have a big house, I have a car, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And I'm looking for someone to settle down with, right?
	And and they gotta, you know, have a certain education or whatever.
	And and people are put putting up personals on Twitter.
	I've seen it, right?
	Men and women are buying into this because they get into that point where they want to settle down, they want to have a family, but they don't want to go to the uh Rickmarole of having to play the whole dating thing because you know you know, you never know who you'd land up with, right?
	You you you you wind up with somebody who is crazy, just wants your money, who is a gold digger, or just wants to play around, you know.
	I mean, maybe that's not what you want, right?
	So they're going through these matchmaking services or true people who are or just putting their personals out there and then auditioning people, you know, which is I find that really fascinating.
	And and you know, maybe there's like uh a truth to arranged marriages because it's even going that far.
	They're talking about arranged marriages now.
	It's like, well, maybe that's not such a bad thing.
	I mean, we we think of we tend to think of arranged marriages as as uh as uh you know archaic, right?
	It's like, oh, you're forcing people to marry each other and they're young and they don't know how to make their own decisions.
	Well, that's true, maybe in for for like Indian culture, you know, like where they hoist two teenagers on each other, and that's not fair to either party, I think, right?
	Um, but with adults, I mean, why not?
	You know, I mean, you you both know what you want, you both have careers, or maybe you don't want to have a career, maybe you want to be a housewife, you know, and that's what you're putting out there.
	You're not doing any false advertising, and you're looking for a guy who wants that in his life, so maybe that's such a bad thing.
	So, you know, I I I think that the market will evolve, it is evolving, obviously, because this whole, you know, let's date everybody on Tinder and let's uh fuck around and have sex, it's not really working out for a lot of people.
	I mean, you look at all these uh sex positive feminists in like 2010, 2012, 2013.
	Uh, they were all writing about how a woman's only worth in life is how much uh dick she gets, you know.
	I mean, that's this is what they were putting out there.
	They're saying that a woman, you know, if she's in her prime in her 20s, should be she should be sleeping with any everybody and anybody, she should not have uh any sort of solid, stable relationships with anyone.
	And obviously, this is a lot of projection, they're unwilling to commit.
	That's why they put out these articles, right?
	They are afraid of commitments, So they're giving bad advice out of young women who just don't know what they're doing.
	And obviously, it's created a lot of sad, lonely, miserable people.
	I mean, these writers now, many of them have written.
	I'm sure you've seen the Jessica Valenti piece, you know, where she used to complain about being cat called and now she wishes she was still cat called, you know, that it and that's like Tip of the Iceberg stuff.
	And and her complaint, I understand a lot of women feel that way, you know.
	It's so she's not like lying about it.
	But then you have these other more extreme women, like uh, you know, who were sex gurus or something in the twenties when they were in their 20s, who are now tweeting or posting articles about how depressed they are, how they can't find a man, how no man even trusts them, how they they can't find a suitable husband, how everybody who they date, you know, sees them for their previous work and judges them as someone to just sleep around with and not settle down with.
	I mean, it's it's this is the bit they've made for themselves and they're getting fucked in it, you know.
	Well, we're having uh there's there's socioeconomic um causes to this too.
	I think I was talking with um a close friend of mine, uh Ryan Turberville, um uh a couple of uh last week, and we were trying to figure out what happened in the um African American community in the United States, because you know, 50, 60, 70 years ago, it was you know, nuclear family unit, very Christian values.
	And I thought, man, I I wonder if what happened was these communities were making ends meet, but barely.
	And then when we had the hyperinflation in the 70s and we went off the gold standard, and they weren't making any more money, but the money they had was worth less and less.
	That put them over the threshold to having to turn to crime or alternatives or having to work extra jobs so they're not home with their kids, you know, raising their kids, uh, spending quality time.
	And I think that what's happening in America today, uh, regardless of what demographic you're in, um, is a lot of men aren't independent until they're 30.
	Yeah, and it's like that's why we're not adults until we're 30s, because you can't make a living.
	Like you used to be able to graduate high school or drop out of high school, get a job as a plumber or an electrical apprentice, and you could feed a family of four and own your house.
	Yeah.
	Now you gotta have roommates till you're like 30, unless you're kicking ass and you're you're you're just saddled with with all this uh college debt.
	So I think that part of the problem that we have this this like terrible dating dynamic and and commitment dynamic in our culture is that nobody can afford to be nobody can afford to be uh uh what it takes to be a desirable mate.
	Exactly.
	And and this, you know, uh feminists don't like hearing this because it's their fault.
	Uh the reason why the market is the way it is, why you know both men and women are devalued in the marketplace, you know, like they're worth half as much as they used to be, is because there's 50% more no not 50%, 100% more people working, right?
	100% more people working there.
	So their value is halved, right?
	So unless you're like a highly skilled worker who can, you know, like an artist who is successful, for example, or writer who's successful engineer, something that takes skill, right?
	Unless you're one of these things, you're not gonna get a job, right?
	Or you're not gonna get a job that pays you double, right?
	Because you are only about as valuable as the person next to you, right?
	If you're stocking shells at a at Walmart or something, anybody can do that, you know, uh a guy of 50%, you know, 50 IQ could do it.
	So like these are the people you're competing against, you know, it's things like the ADA, it's things like putting women into workforce.
	And now keep in mind, I'm not saying we need to repeal the 19th, that we need to put women back in chains and put them back in a kitchen.
	Of course not, of course not.
	Nobody says that it's stupid, only stupid people say that, right?
	Or they're being ironic or something.
	That's not realistic, but we have to adopt adapt the um the economy to cater to this hundred percent more people.
	And that's not being helped by mass immigration, right?
	There's a reason why uh countries like, for instance, Australia or Denmark are fine, you know, they don't even have minimum wage, they have really good killer wages, and both men and women are working.
	And the women, you know, most many of them choose to remain home.
	They remain uh, you know, homemakers, which is interesting, right?
	It despite the fact that they are completely, you know, I would say uh it's like a gender neutral uh environment, right?
	They don't have any sexism in their workplace, unlike America or or the UK.
	So it's very interesting to see how you know women are actually reverting back to traditional roles because they realize that the men can afford to earn a living.
	So that's actually a really good thing, right?
	This is what we need to see more.
	But the only way they manage to accomplish that is by clamping down on mass immigration.
	You can't have you know millions of people pouring in every single year, taking these low-wage jobs and then taking the jobs above that, because you know, they obviously are trained and they get those same skills that you would, right?
	So it works in Denmark, doesn't work anywhere else.
	I mean, it works in Japan, doesn't work anywhere else because again, mass immigration, that's like the big issue.
	Well, and I think um culturally, and in part this is probably caused by just changing economics, but I don't understand why we refer to 25-year-olds as kids today.
	And whenever whenever anybody's like, oh, that poor kid, this poor kid, or this person's a victim, or they couldn't make the decision about whatever.
	I just think about the I think about the 18-year-olds that storm the beach in Normandy.
	And I always I tweet this a lot.
	Yeah, I'm like, if you're old enough to storm the beach in Normandy, you're old enough to figure out how to do your tax return, right?
	Or I just wish that, and I think this is in part a problem with our educational system.
	We waste so much time, K through 12.
	I mean, if we just eliminated summer breaks, you could have a bachelor's degree by the time you graduated from high school.
	Yeah, and this is how things were back in the day, you know.
	I mean, like people like Isaac Newton, or maybe not Isaac Newton, but like people in that era were graduating and going into college by the time they were like 14, you know, this is like average, like there's really smart kids, they'd be in college by the time they're 14.
	You don't see this anymore, you know.
	Now it's like, oh, we did a K-12 thing, they're gonna be 18 years old.
	It's like, why?
	You're wasting four years of their formative years where their brains are developing, you know.
	Well, and the quality of the education is something to consider too, because if you if you had a 19th century bachelor's degree, you could read and write in Latin.
	Yeah, you know, that was a languages.
	That was like a pre-req, you know.
	Um, I had a close friend in uh in college who was a philosophy major, brilliant guy, and he flew to um Greece for a summer um sort of internship program when we were in college between semesters, and he came back and he could read and write ancient Greek.
	He did like this intense philosophy program.
	It was for philosophy students, where they just they just drilled you every day for like 10 hours, and he came back and he was like, I can read Plato's Republic in the in the original language it was written in.
	He's like Boris Johnson, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But and he he is brilliant, don't get me wrong.
	I'm not saying he's not brilliant, but the program is what made him do able to do that.
	Not necessarily, I mean, it was his determination too, but anybody everybody is capable of so much more than they're doing, they're just not being challenged, in my opinion.
	Yep.
	Absolutely not.
	I mean, there's no there's no incentive.
	Just no, I mean, so the only people who are challenging themselves are doing it on their own accord, right?
	Right.
	Why are creators more successful than most other people?
	I mean, look at YouTubers who are successful.
	Look at um Linus Tech Tips, I like him, uh, or any of these other creators who PewDiePie, for example.
	Yeah, why are they successful?
	I mean, they could give up at any given moment.
	They could just say, Hey, you know what?
	I'm gonna retire, I'm relaxing, I have my money, but they choose and not to.
	They choose to become more successful, and then they get other people on board that they help out, like the editors or their co-hosts or whatever.
	And those guys are going to be just as successful because they're willing to put the work into something that they don't really have to do.
	They have to the personal drive, the motivation to do it.
	But most people don't, right?
	Most people are just happy to kind of coast and do nothing and collect government benefits, right?
	Yeah, and that's why benefits just don't help anybody because where's the incentive to actually work, right?
	Right.
	Well, and if you're if you're saddled with debt right out of college, you're way less likely to pursue the thing you're actually passionate about, right?
	So if you're if you've always wanted to paint, but you owe 150,000 in college debt, maybe you'll do the accountant job for 10 years, but nobody ever stops doing the accountant job once they start, you know.
	And so I think we had this like we had this pandemic for lack of a better term, or epidemic, um, of people in America who are doing jobs that they don't like because they're enslaved to their debt, they owe so much money.
	And uh I think it's a real travesty that we've created a system that's allowed for that to happen.
	And this is another example of government regulations that were supposed that were designed to help people get a college education, or or that was the intent.
	They weren't designed to, but that was the intent.
	And what they ended up doing was drastically inflating the cost of an education because all the colleges and universities knew that the government would foot the bill, and then everybody who graduates is just screwed for the rest of their life.
	It's such a bait and switch crap thing.
	Um, and it'd be one thing.
	Yeah, it'd be one thing if the education was awesome.
	But we have you have people graduating from college and they don't know.
	I know I I had a you know, I'm grateful for my college education.
	I I had a good experience, but if it wasn't for one or two classes that I took, it would have been a total waste of money.
	Yeah.
	Like I know someone with an MFA in English, he's got a master's degree in English, right?
	Yeah.
	The guy can barely write.
	What is he learning?
	I mean, what did he learn?
	What's eight years in college or an MFA?
	You know, like things like that.
	And it's like, what are you doing?
	You know, like you're not doing anything in your life, you're just saddling yourself a debt.
	And and it's like, oh, because I have uh a degree.
	It's like yeah, meanwhile, Kurt Vonnikit's writing number one best selling fiction, and he's never he he's he never taken an you never went to college.
	It's like if you want to be a writer, just write, you know, just write.
	Like just there's certain things that require licensing and certification, like being a lawyer or a doctor.
	Sure, go yeah, that makes sense.
	But if you want to even if you want to own a business, why the hell are you going to business school?
	Like all the great business leaders dropped out.
	Yeah, they did.
	Yeah.
	Look at look at Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates.
	I know they're bad people, but still, it's like they're good idols stuff.
	Do you think they're bad people?
	Do you think Mark and Bill are actually bad individuals?
	I don't think Mark is a bad individual.
	I think Bill is.
	Why?
	I don't necessarily disagree.
	I just I'm really curious to curious as to why.
	Um so let's let's let's dissect them first.
	So Mark Zuckerberg, I think, you know, they're both you, you know, they're both very um uh utopian, right?
	And when you're you you're in a position of power where you are able to affect the world around you in in the way that they do, it's kind of hard not to be utopian.
	You know, Jack is a utopian, uh, you know, uh Warren Buffett's a utopian, they're all they all have different views.
	But the way that I see it is that, you know, um with Zuckerberg, you know, yeah, there are some bad things that that his company has done, but in general, if you listen to him speak, I mean, he is protecting people's privacy, which is interesting, you know, like compared to Google, for example.
	Google is more than happy to just mine everything that you put out there, right?
	They are selling it to the highest bidder, they don't care if it's a Chinese government or if it's a spy agency, just do it.
	Facebook is is a bit better about it, and they are also a bit better about a whole free speech thing.
	Uh, you know, uh Google will just outright ban you.
	Facebook will ask questions first.
	They have a process for it because it's it's it's not completely politicized, right?
	And it's not like Twitter where Twitter will instantly ban you for any reason.
	Well, and the difference, the difference is that on Facebook, you're primarily interacting with your actual network, whereas on Twitter, you're primarily interacting with people you never met.
	It's parasocial stuff, yeah.
	I think hardly anybody I personally know follows me on Twitter.
	But right, obviously when I post on Facebook, it's it's my cousins, it's my family, it's college friends.
	So so you're much less likely to be reported by your real network because they know you, but strangers don't give a damn about you.
	And so yeah, it's such more, it's a much more combative inverse.
	Yep.
	And you know, I think Zuckerberg has talked about how he wants to keep Facebook more family-oriented, more close-knit, right?
	More social versus that's the reason why you got rid of the news feed, right?
	Remember, you used to have a news feed and they would put Trump Trump Trump Trump Trump every single day.
	Well, he got rid of that because he realized that this was actually making people really fucking negative, right?
	It was making people hate their neighbors, hate their families.
	And it was like, we don't want this.
	You know, we ran an experiment for like two months.
	We only put negative news and politics and people's timelines and see how they behaved.
	And sure enough, they became really negative people, right?
	They started hating their families, they cut people off.
	So he got rid of that.
	And smart move, right?
	Obviously, it hurt a lot of the journalists, you know, because like we are dependent on Facebook as our bread and butter for our traffic, but I need to sneeze.
	Go ahead.
	But I'm like, fuck it.
	Anyway, bless bless you.
	Thank you.
	So, you know, that's what he said.
	Whereas so that I don't think he's a bad person.
	I mean, you know, I'm like on the fence.
	I don't think he's a good guy, right?
	But I don't think he's a good one.
	Well, and you gotta keep people always forget that everything changes when you go from being a private company to answering to a board.
	And this happened to Steve Jobs, right?
	Uh Apple totally the board fucked it up.
	No, like Ayn Rand famously said, nobody makes statues of committees, right?
	Committees always fuck it up, right?
	And so yeah, it and the same thing happened with with with Zuck, right?
	Like Facebook was awesome.
	Like 10 years ago, it was so cool.
	It goes public, and now all of a sudden you're you're answering to the board members, shareholders.
	You know, there's there's concern about PR in a big way because it affects share price in a way that it didn't when it was a private company and things changed.
	And same with Jack too.
	Like, I I am not a fan of Twitter censorship.
	I think it is the closest thing to to fascism without being fascism.
	I don't want to be one of those people that just throws that word around because fascism is actually a real thing that's terrible.
	We're not really there yet, in my opinion.
	But we do approach.
	And um, but but people think it's it's all Jack's fault or it's all Zuck's fault.
	And it's really no, it's the committee.
	Yeah, and you can see that in the stuff they say, even it was like, why did Trump get banned?
	Well, it wasn't Jack who decided that.
	It was one tent of the company as a committee, right?
	They decided that they were gonna, you know, like boycott the company or talk shit about it unless he was banned.
	And when you have one tent of the company threatening to revolt and not work, that's an issue, right?
	So why do you think Bill Gates is evil?
	Um, because he has no concern about the well-being of people.
	He well, he says that he does.
	And and and you know, in a in a generic sense, he does, but he doesn't relate to people in a way that affects their day-to-day lives.
	You know, this is a guy who uh, for example, here's something that he actually did.
	It's just not some conspiracy theory.
	He gave mosquito nets to uh someplace in Africa, you know, I forget where.
	Maybe it was Ethiopia, maybe it was uh it was someplace where they have a lot of malaria, right?
	A lot of people are dying there.
	So he gave them mosquito nets, and the mosquito nets were like these high-tech ones that had like um they were laced with poison, okay?
	They're laced at poison.
	Now, his lack of mosquitoes, right?
	And they're very effective if you use them that way, right?
	Yeah, but if but they kill babies.
	They kill babies too because they were using that to catch fish.
	Oh because you know, it's in Africa, right?
	I mean, everything is gonna be multi multi-person.
	I didn't realize that that happened, but so but that that he didn't do that on purpose.
	He just that was out of the way.
	No, it wasn't on purpose.
	Yeah, but he this is this is the problem with him, right?
	He doesn't think about the long-term ramifications.
	He's just thinking as an elite, what he would do with a mosquito net.
	Well, it's a mosquito nuts used to catch mosquitoes, duh.
	You know, like he doesn't think, well, you know, I'm a poor person, I'm gonna use a mosquito net to catch fish because I don't have a real net, right?
	He's not thinking like that.
	He he's he's out of touch, and that's what makes him a bad person because everything that he does, whether it is you know, uh vaccine passports or or whatever, you know, like any any initiative that he takes is gonna impact people negatively because he doesn't think about the unintended consequences, yeah.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, he doesn't think like people, and then he gets upset, obviously, because it just backfires, right?
	And so he's like a bad person in the sense that he's actually causing like a net bad to happen in the world versus like a net good.
	Right, but but he's not he's not bad in the sense that you don't necessarily think that he he's behind stuff.
	He's well that that or he's behind COVID and he's got so much.
	No, no, no.
	Absolutely not.
	This is bullshit, right?
	That's bullshit.
	Yeah, there's no evidence for it.
	First of all, there's no evidence for it, it's just people throwing out names and like, oh, Warren Buffett's behind us, or Bill Gates is behind us, or off shall be like where's the evidence?
	You know, you can't just show me a YouTube video and claim it's evidence, it's not, you know, it's so tangential, if anything.
	Yeah.
	So no, yeah.
	That's interesting.
	So um I'm just thinking about the phenomena that is people always assuming that somebody with a lot of money is behind it.
	I wonder why we feel that way.
	Uh I I've thought about this actually.
	I think that the reason why is because it gives them godlike status and it makes it seem as if we don't have any means to fight back.
	Because if we have to admit that we are the ones with the real problems, that we have issues that need fixing, then well, we have to confront our own demons, and we don't want to do that.
	They're scary to us, right?
	We are more interested in fighting external realities or externalities, I guess.
	Uh, because you know it makes more sense to have a boogeyman out there.
	It's like uh with feminism and a patriarchy or intersectional feminists and a patriarchy, they're fighting against this hidden monster that's in, you know, that that's that runs the system that runs the world governments.
	It's the same thing there.
	There's no such thing, it doesn't exist.
	The patriarchy does not exist.
	It's more like a collection of individuals are out for themselves who you know benefit their themselves in ways that maybe um put others at a disadvantage.
	Sure, you can talk about oppression in in that regard, but there is no overwhelming force, much like you know, uh, when the right wing talks about um billionaires controlling the world or elites.
	It's it's more like we don't want to deal with our own problems.
	We don't want to deal with the fact that the politicians we elect are corrupt.
	We don't want to deal with the fact that legislation isn't enforced.
	We don't want to deal with the fact that um, you know, uh there are things that we can do in our daily lives that can make the world a better place that we just kind of refuse to do.
	You know, we're always putting it putting the blame on somebody else.
	I mean, if you live in a uh in Palestine, for example, right?
	Uh maybe not Palestine, but Gaza, there's no such place as Palestine.
	You live in Gaza, you're gonna blame everything not on Hamas, not on the people you that you put in power, you're gonna blame it on on Israel, right?
	You're gonna say that the Jews are the reason for for all the bad things that are happening to us.
	Why are the why are the buildings falling down?
	Oh, because the uh Israelis fight rockets, the idea fired rockets at us.
	Well, why did they fire rockets?
	That's not a question anyone's willing to ask, right?
	It's always like that.
	And it's always easier to blame other people, externalities that you have just no control over.
	That way you can feel oppressed.
	I mean, you know, like it it puts yourself in a slave mindset.
	And I'm sure you know, Malcolm X has talked about this, I think.
	And uh it's like if you have yourself as a slave rather than as a free man, then everything is just a way to be oppressed, you know.
	You're always caught in this constant.
	Well, and you never have to deal with the shame.
	You never have to deal with the shame of failure.
	Yep.
	You know, if you blame somebody else because your business went under or your marriage fell apart, you psychologically it's that's the shortcut.
	But in sort of a Jordan Peterson-esque um perspective, the only way to actually be happier and better is to face the dragon within rather than try to blame some external foe without.
	And you know, this is true for me too.
	I have a tendency to think everything is the like the Marxists' fall, the critical, you know.
	I I see I see opposition as like a as a movement, but I don't blame it for my failures or my unhappiness.
	I just see it as terrible for the for everyone's long-term outcome, you know.
	And I and I I think there's I think that you know, if we can find a way to get back to a culture of personal accountability and a genuine desire to know what is true rather than reinforce what we already believe to be true, then um we'll be much closer to solving our problems.
	Yeah, we have to address the truth, right?
	We have to address the facts, the reality, no matter how hard it is, right?
	If it's really hard, that means it's true, right?
	And and this is the issue a lot of people is that they're unwilling to ask the hard questions, they're unwilling to tackle the hard issues, they want to take the the shortcuts, the easy answers to blame other people for it.
	Oh, why is the uh um why am I broken bankrupt?
	Well, it's because uh, you know, communists are ruining my life.
	It's like, well, no, they're really not, they're not really doing anything to you, or the capitalists are willing ruining my life.
	It's like, no, they're not.
	No one's doing that but you.
	You choose not to work, you choose to stay at home and collect welfare checks, and you're blaming capitalism for it.
	It's like, well, that's not how it works.
	I mean, that's not reality.
	Like, look at all these other people who are not collecting welfare checks who are out there working for themselves and they are elevating their positions in life because they're willing to slog through a year of minimum wage to earn their training and promote it.
	I mean, when I see a person who's like in their 30s and still earning minimum wage, I do not feel sorry for them.
	I don't think, oh, they shouldn't be paid more.
	No, absolutely not.
	This is like a temporary job.
	It's for 18-year-olds.
	You know, you have the training.
	Where is your ambition to become more than just a uh a grocery store clerk?
	I mean, do something more in your life, become a manager for God's sakes.
	You know, it's not that hard to attain seniority, you know, but you choose to do the the easy job because it's safe to you.
	It's pathetic.
	Well, and and we see this a lot from the left too, because their platform is so conducive to lying about what's possible.
	So over the last 50 years, they have constantly reinforced the idea that there is the oppressed and the oppressor.
	And they it is it is not good for Democrat candidates to have constituents who believe the American dream is possible.
	If they can convince people that the American dream is impossible, they can get elected, they can push their their policies through uh in a much better way.
	And that the tragedy of that is that the American dream is still possible.
	It may be get it may be getting harder.
	It is still possible, but it's absolutely impossible if you don't believe it's possible.
	You know, like I I I went to college to be uh an audio engineer.
	I thought I wanted to make records, I wanted to be a producer.
	And um, I met my my dad went to college with um um a very successful award winning uh producer who lived in Asheville when I was in college.
	And I met with him in a studio and it was really cool.
	I got to sit in on one of the session sessions and learn from them and ask some questions.
	Um, and they were working on some records that were gonna be hit records and they ended up being hit records, and it was such an awesome experience.
	And I asked the guy, I asked him, uh, what does it take to make it in this business?
	He said, Listen, so if you want to be a producer, you absolutely can, but you can't do it if there's anything else in the world that you would be content doing.
	Yeah.
	It is he's like it's so it's like it's yeah, you have it has to be the only way that you're willing to live.
	And at that point, that was kind of when I was like, wow, maybe I shouldn't be a producer then because I like this, but I don't love it to the extent that I need to love it in order to actually do think the way you need to think to to come up with creative solutions to get in the industry and to do to do better.
	And I that's true.
	That's becoming true of the American thing.
	Everything too.
	I mean, like, let's say you want to become a YouTuber, right?
	Yeah, you cannot be content with your daily job editing news articles like I do, you know.
	It's kind of like my daily job.
	You cannot be content with that job.
	You must see that job as a sort of uh not even a stepping stone, but as something that that you're just using to get by.
	Right.
	Your your real goal has to be set on your creative pursuit, otherwise it's not gonna happen.
	Right.
	Because you're gonna tell yourself, well, you know, I got my daily job, it pays fine and love my job, it's fine, you know, it's okay.
	So I don't need to do this because it pays well enough, you know, and and so that dream will never take off, you know.
	Yeah.
	If you do try YouTube, you're gonna have ass it.
	You're gonna be like, well, I don't need to put out a video today, you know, like I I've got my daily job, it pays well.
	It's like you can't think like that.
	You have to go all in.
	Absolutely.
	And and you see this over and over again with historical examples um of the greats, right?
	So if you look at Jim Morrison of the doors, there's like no way he was gonna do anything other than be an awesome rock singer.
	Yeah, right, or famous artists or fate or or Hemingway, for example, like nobody was gonna hire Hemingway, but damn, could he write about the war, you know?
	And it it it's it's it's something to aspire to.
	And I know that people think that it's reckless, and it certainly is if you have a lot of debt from college and you have a family to support, it's reckless.
	But it's also it's you you I believe that you have to you have to first love yourself and be loyal to yourself before love or loyalty means anything from you.
	Yeah, right.
	So, like if you don't love yourself, but you like if my wife didn't love herself, for example, her love then.
	How would she love you?
	Yeah, it wouldn't mean shit to me, right?
	And so it and this this this commitment to oneself is not selfish, it's not something you do at the expense of others.
	It's it's actually good for everybody because you're you're becoming a better individual individual.
	Think of selfishness as a virtue, right?
	Yeah, sink of it as a virtue because right you loving yourself and respecting yourself means that you are able to respect and love other people the same way you do yourself.
	Right, exactly.
	And so uh um I guess my point is that anybody or culturally, any individual um who's denying themselves the life they really want to live, um is actually committing probably the biggest mistake of their life in a small way every day, you know.
	And I'm not a religious person, but if you want to put it in religious terms, you could say that God gave you a gift and you squandered it, you know.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	He gave you the ability to speak to to to be entertaining, whatever, you know, and you chose to do a life of menial labor, for example.
	Not not that menial labor is bad, mind you, it can be really, really good and even artistic, like carpenter uh cup and tree, for example, right?
	But let's just see that's not your calling.
	Why are you doing that?
	What because it's easy for you.
	I mean, stacking stacking shelves is easy for you.
	I mean, that's it's sad, you know.
	It's not even like I'm not even looking down on these people, I'm just saying it's sad, you know, it's sad to let your life be turned into uh autonomous work.
	It's like that scene from uh Goodwall Hunting.
	Did you ever see that movie?
	Yeah, yeah, it's a good movie.
	Remember when uh toward the end, um Matt Damon's talking to Ben Affleck at the construction site, and he's like, you know, I'm gonna do this rest of my life and take our kids to T ball together.
	And Ben Affleck was like, if if you do that, I'll kick your ass, you know.
	Like, yeah, that's it's an insult to all of us who don't want to be here that you could be anything you want, and you're you're you're you're content to do this.
	It's like go be you, do what you're best at.
	And the funny and I I was talking to a friend about this, who's a friend of mine about this.
	Um uh uh his name's Andrew Stern, he's on Twitter.
	Um he's starting, he's a brilliant software uh engineer and and musician, and he's starting a um a company to build some uh audio plugins and hardware uh for musicians.
	And I said, listen, man, I was like, he because he's a perfectionist, he's like, how do I do this?
	How do I do this?
	I was like, listen, business and life, in my opinion, is it's like checkers.
	Like you move diagonally, but always forward, you know.
	Right.
	And so like when I started my business in 2016, um, I run an advertising business.
	Um everything I did then is completely different than what I do now with my business.
	But I had to take the first step in order to know where to pivot, where to pivot, where to pivot.
	Right.
	And it's like you just have to do it.
	You don't have to know what the outcome is gonna be.
	I don't know exactly what it's like.
	You're gonna feel it out, right?
	I don't know what the outcome is going to be of this this podcast.
	I'm just gonna hustle it, man.
	Because my like I want to, and I know that something's gonna manifest.
	I just have faith in it.
	Um, so we'll see.
	Yeah.
	Makes sense.
	Makes perfect sense.
	Because if you don't do it, then you know it's like it's a Wayne Gretzky quote that is on the office, right?
	You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.
	Yeah.
	Wayne Gretzky, Michael Scott.
	That's great.
	Yeah, I love that quote.
	I mean, it makes it makes perfect sense.
	It makes sense for dating, it makes sense for any job that you take, any risk you take.
	If you don't take that risk, then well, it's not gonna happen.
	So it's not gonna materialize, is it?
	You can't will it into into happening.
	A lot of people do this thing called manifesting.
	And it's like, are you actually doing anything though?
	No, you're not.
	Just sitting there hoping something happens.
	That's the that's a big trick with the whole secret thing, right?
	You know, yeah, the secret.
	The will it thing.
	So I'm opposed to any sort of superstitious understanding of how the universe will will bury, will bring gifts to your door.
	Okay, yeah.
	However, if you think about what you want every day and you write it down, it is way more likely to happen.
	So yeah, it's not the actually making moves, right?
	You're actually doing things to make it happen.
	Not the force.
	Yeah, you're not moving the remote with the force.
	It's like you decided that you wanted to move the the remote control, and so you got your ass off the couch and you moved it.
	Like that's what's gonna happen.
	If you start thinking about what your goals are and what you want, you're gonna start doing the small things that lead to the big outcomes.
	But it's like in the Bible, it says God helps those who help themselves, right?
	And that's exactly what that means.
	You have to help yourself, otherwise nothing's gonna happen, right?
	It's not gonna work by itself, right?
	There are like a million parables to this in every different culture, every different religion has something where you know uh uh a man is like starving to death, and he asks for his divinity to uh to give him food, and then you know, a fisherman comes along, tries to teach him how to fish.
	He's like, No, no, I'm gonna pray to God, you know, and and the God's gonna, you know, he's hoping God will just drop a fish in his lap.
	Doesn't happen, right?
	And then another man comes along and says, I can teach you how to farm.
	He's like, No, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna do that.
	Eventually just fucking dies.
	Okay, just starves to death.
	It's like, well, and then he goes to heaven, or you know, he goes and confronts God or or whatever, right?
	And and and he's like, Why didn't you help me?
	I prayed to you.
	I was really pious, you know, I believed in you.
	It's like, who do you think those three people I set are?
	You know, yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The opportunities that you refuse to take.
	That's what you know, that's what defines you.
	I think my whole life has been completely defined by the opportunities that I chose to take.
	There are some I I missed, maybe on purpose, even because I had to wait certain things, right?
	But my life wouldn't be where it is if I did not take chances.
	Speaking of, what are your what are your goals over the next couple of years?
	Um, I would like to do a YouTube channel.
	Yes, I mean, I've I've done one before and it was moderately successful, you know.
	So I could certainly do it again.
	I don't see why not.
	And now, you know, I'm I got I won't say more free time necessarily, but my uh hit is in a much better space.
	You know, I moved into my new house, right?
	It looks fantastic.
	And uh uh I'm what I want to do more work on a you know, speak more.
	I want to do more talking.
	And I think uh it's not because I want to be more relevant, it's just I have a lot to say, you know.
	I've got a lot to say, and you know, people want to hear from me, so why not?
	You know.
	Well, that's great.
	I'll certainly be um be uh continuing to follow you, and I really appreciate you uh taking the time to to do this with me.
	I know that uh as I'm a stranger and yeah, you um are uh stranger to this, but yeah, I appreciate it, man.
	It was really really fun talking to you.
	I really enjoyed this conversation.
	Yeah, likewise, it was fun.
	I mean, let's do this again, you know.
	Yeah, let's do it again.
	And if you ever um if you ever decide you're gonna start your own podcast, think of me and I'll I'd be happy to come on.
	Yeah, for sure.
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