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July 3, 2021 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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Hasan Piker vs Transracialism

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	Better stop the music since we're live, and I don't want to get a copyright strike that takes down the whole damn stream Let's wait for everything to get sorted out on my end Because I think I'm live reasonably sure I'm live.
	How's it going?
	Don't worry.
	It's been a while.
	I'll get this sorted out.
	Hopefully not too many boomerisms There we go.
	I can hear that No, well, I mean the good thing about my channel not being monetized is I actually don't care if I play copyrighted music on you anymore.
	So not a problem.
	Hello chat.
	How are you doing?
	After 10,000 years he rises from his sleep.
	Yes, pretty much.
	I hope you're having a nice Saturday afternoon or at least that's what it is where I am and it's reasonably nice and I managed to find myself an hour or so away from the kids.
	I was like, oh great.
	I'll take advantage of this by sitting in my office and talking on the internet because, you know, why not?
	But no, it's all good.
	All good.
	Hope you're all doing well.
	No more bread in the chat.
	Can let's see some meat.
	Come on.
	Big chunks of meat.
	Something that's not full of carbs anyway.
	I'll tell you what, it's paying off though, isn't it?
	You know?
	I'll tell you what, when I see pictures of myself like two years ago, I'm just like, oh, God.
	You know, how?
	How did I never do this sooner?
	I've been going rock climbing still.
	Don't know whether you can see that giant massive wound that I have.
	Went to a new rock climbing gym in Swindon, and the thing about rock climbing gyms is that the holds, the holds you've got, new ones are obviously quite rough because you want good grip.
	But the thing is, I'm still quite heavy because I'm quite big-boned.
	And so I tend to have to wrap up my fingers to make sure they don't get shredded.
	And for some reason, on this one, I slipped a bit and just huge chunk out of my hand.
	It's really painful.
	And it's been painful for like two days.
	But that's what I see.
	Good slabs of meat in the chat.
	But yeah, so that's annoying.
	But it's been going very well.
	Oh, yeah, 4th of July tomorrow, isn't it?
	Oh, yeah.
	Congratulations, Yankees.
	I hope you're holding the line against the critical race theorists who seek to undermine your country in one way by celebrating your 4th of July.
	It's nice, isn't it?
	As a Brit, I disavow, obviously.
	Have I seen the Green Knight trailer?
	No, it's going to be cancer, though.
	I mean, I'm just totally, totally cynical about Hollywood and stuff.
	Have you guys seen the new He-Man trailer for the Netflix thing?
	Amazing trailer.
	It looked really great.
	But I'm not optimistic.
	V keeps messing me going that.
	I'm hearing these rumors that what they're going to do is make it good for a couple of episodes and then have He-Man die or something and then turn it into some SJW nonsense.
	And I'm like, yeah, that's probably what's going to happen, isn't it?
	Probably what's going to happen.
	Climbing while fat.
	Well, not so fat now.
	You know, just climbing while a bit chunky now.
	So that's good.
	But it's all going quite well.
	What's up?
	Not much.
	Not much.
	What we're going to do today, what we're going to do today is watch the best video that exists on YouTube.
	Now, you're probably thinking, well, hang on a second.
	There are a lot of good videos on YouTube.
	It's a big platform.
	I've got a lot of good creators in my content feed.
	So how do you know this one's the best one?
	And I know this one's the best one for anyone who is opposed to social justice.
	Because this is the car crash.
	This is it.
	This is the moment where the immovable object meets the unstoppable force and Hassan Piker is right in the middle.
	And it's the funniest thing in the world.
	I just, I'm going to be howling throughout this.
	And.
	And it's going to be nice.
	Nice to watch.
	I've already watched this video, so I know it's good.
	But it's a thing of beauty.
	Because Hassan, being the massive, throbbing man-brain that he is, has absolutely no idea what he's doing to the intersectional movement with this video.
	And he's just carpet-bombing transgenders.
	Just like, boom, boom, boom, boom.
	You're not this, you're not that, you're not the other.
	And he's too dumb to know it.
	It's so good.
	How much weight have I lost?
	About two and a half stone.
	So whatever that is in burgers.
	Probably like 500 burgers or something.
	I don't know how you weigh things in America.
	I assume it's in burgers.
	But yes, no, it's so good.
	It's so good.
	But I just figure we'll, you know, chill out for a minute.
	We've got a while.
	We've got a bit of time.
	Tell me, what's going on with you, chat?
	Hassan came out as trans-Aryan.
	Yeah, I always find that interesting because I've seen Hassan answering the question, is he white?
	And he's like, I don't know if I'm white.
	It's like, you're obviously not, you're Turkish.
	You're not white.
	I don't know why that's a question.
	Like, and it's not bad or good to be white or Turkish.
	Although, now that that comes up, incidentally, what are the power dynamics between Turks and white people historically?
	Because that's really interesting, isn't it?
	Because it actually turns out that the power dynamics of Turkish people and white people historically have been one of Turkish tyranny against the white Christian Balkan dwellers and conquering them, murdering them, like enslaving them,
	literally taking their children, turning them into slaves from childhood, forcibly converting them to Islam and making them fight for the Sultan against their own people, marching them back into the Balkans and having them fight various people in Eastern Europe.
	So I'm just saying, when Hassan Pika says anything about white people, you should probably remember that from a historical power dynamics perspective, he's very much punching down.
	And it sounds a lot like racism to anyone who knows anything about the history of Europe.
	So just saying, Hassan, one of those things that maybe you want to tone back a bit your anti-whiteness.
	Anyway, reparations when?
	Well, that's a great question.
	Am I still identifying as black?
	No, I'm not black.
	I just have a black ancestor.
	As a Serb, can confirm.
	Oh, yeah, I know you guys.
	I know you guys know all about this.
	You know, like hundreds and hundreds of years of literal, like, enslavement from people of colour.
	And Hassan Pika has got the gall to say the white people are the problem.
	It's like, okay, Turk.
	Like, let's ask the Armenians, shall we?
	Give Anna a quick call.
	I see that the young Turks is falling apart still.
	I love watching it.
	I love Jimmy Dore's just so great at the moment.
	Is that...
	Do you guys watch Jimmy Dore?
	I love Jimmy Dore.
	Like, I love watching him just from a totally common sense and very reasonable perspective.
	Like, I'm not a leftist, but I feel that Jimmy Dore is the kind of leftist you could have a conversation with, and he wouldn't be crazy.
	Like, a traditional sort of old left, not an unpatriotic, you know, communist.
	And I love watching him just taking massive just haymakers, like, you know, Kyle Kalinsky, Anna Kasparian, Chenk Yuga, you know, all these, all these people.
	It's just amazing to watch.
	Amazing.
	And the thing is, he's right.
	That's the thing.
	You know, Jimmy Dore, the spitting lizard, has turned into the correct moral exemplar of the left.
	Love it.
	Everything's falling apart at the moment.
	Yeah, it damn well is.
	It damn well is.
	God.
	We've got a video going up on the podcast of the Lotuses channel today about how the West is so obviously phenomenally weak.
	And the thing is, everyone else can see it.
	Like, everyone outside of the West is looking at us going, right?
	They're rotting from within.
	Like, we just need to wait and they'll probably collapse on their own.
	And even if they don't, they're not going to have the balls to come at us.
	Nike Willey in the chat says crusades were defensive wars.
	That's completely true.
	There's just no question of it.
	Historically, you'd have to be as illiterate as Hassan Pika to not know that.
	There's just no other way of framing it either.
	I mean, the question, I suppose, is what are the Muslims doing in central France?
	Oh, they just walked there, did they?
	How did they walk there?
	Oh, 80,000 men armed.
	Right, okay, yeah.
	I think maybe these were defensive wars.
	Just say.
	All leftists are socialists.
	I wouldn't stand by that because it's easy for someone who is not a socialist but is also concerned about, I guess you'll say, redistributive policies to say something of that sort, even though these are very fine distinctions I'm making.
	So for all intents and purposes, basically yes.
	But there's a kind that like the problem is that what is socialism, right?
	Now, I'm not a socialist because as far as I can tell, socialism is a dream of a rationally ordered society.
	As far as I can tell, there are so many people who have been trying over the centuries to achieve socialism.
	And it's always bloody ill-defined at what achieving socialism is.
	And Marx was one of the most successful of these people.
	There are lots of other people outside of it.
	I'm not going to go into it because it's a whole long thing, but like the question of what is socialism?
	And why do so many people think they've got so many different and competing routes and very contradictory routes to achieving socialism?
	How could this be the case?
	And why can no one actually describe what socialism properly is?
	But all socialists are authoritarian, says Diego, and that's true.
	That's absolutely true.
	Because the problem with saying, oh, I want a rationally ordered society, a socialist society, a scientific society, is that you assume to yourself the power to order society rationally.
	And don't know whether you've noticed, but humans aren't actually rational creatures for most of their waking lives.
	They go on instinct and habit and desire.
	And so what they do isn't something necessarily that they've spent a huge amount of time thinking about in almost every action that they take.
	And that's okay.
	They're allowed to do that.
	Like, there's a significant range of actions we can take that don't require any particular thought that we're kind of habituated into that are completely within the law and we're totally free to do.
	And this is a person living their life.
	What they don't need is someone a thousand miles away and who's never met them, who's got no particular concern for them, seeing their data on a spreadsheet and going, right, okay, that needs to change because of my spreadsheets.
	That person give fuck themselves.
	We do not need to have a rationally ordered society.
	What we need to have is to have a justly ordered society.
	But anyway, I'm not going to get on with it.
	I'm not going to get onto that because I want to get onto the things that we're going to talk about.
	Right, so first things first, right, there's a link in the description.
	Go follow me on Getter.
	So this is the new Twitter replacement that the Trump team have launched.
	Some members of the Trump team, there's Jason Miller and a few others who have launched this.
	It's been a very quiet launch.
	No one said much about it.
	And I find that weird because it's actually a really nice platform.
	Like, it works just like Twitter.
	And, you know, it's just very clean and easy to use.
	And I have found it perfectly fine.
	So go follow me there.
	That's linked in the description.
	And, you know, until they parlor it, until the Silicon Valley cartel comes for it and beheads it.
	But I don't know how it's run.
	I don't want to know where the back end is or anything like that.
	No idea.
	So, you know, if they're using any Google or Amazon stuff, well, you know.
	But it's always good to make them show their hand, right?
	Like, people have got to remember that it's no bad thing when something like this happens.
	I mean, obviously, it's bad in and of itself.
	But strategically, in the wider sort of, you know, grand campaign of it, it's actually not a bad thing to start making them punch, right?
	Because the more they punch, the more obvious what they're doing becomes, and the more undeniable and the more widespread it is.
	Because, I mean, one of the things I've been getting in my real life now are people going, wow, you were right about this SJW stuff.
	I mean, like, come on.
	Is there anyone out there at the moment that thinks I was wrong about social justice?
	Like, it's what isn't woke?
	What isn't being taken over by wokeness?
	What isn't being destroyed by wokeness at this point?
	The only people who will deny it are the people who essentially got scared by what's going on and decided to kind of just fold back into being, oh, I'm not talking about politics.
	Oh, I'm not an anti-SJW, all this sort of stuff.
	Yeah.
	Go delete a bunch of those videos, I think.
	Anyway, yeah.
	So, let's talk about transracialism with Hassan Pika.
	Take away Hassan.
	Our main man, Ben Shibibo, took on the Ollie London saga.
	London case.
	Ollie London is a sick freak who wanted to be Jimin and said that they were Jemin, is a British rich kid and a reality TV psycho who now has decided that the very same people that,
	if he is genuine with their claim of being non-binary, and their pronouns, their preferred pronouns are co- and rein for the record, is pulling off a Rachel Dolazole specifically so they can get a little bit of clout from the reactionary right in the U.S.
	Okay, so I love this so much, right?
	So I think it's important to know, and I don't think that Hassan actually says this in this video, but Ollie London, whoever this person was, is, has had 18 surgeries on their face.
	So if this is a troll, I've never seen dedication like it.
	And I think maybe that should be saluted in and of itself.
	But I think that after maybe a 10th surgery, Hassan, I think we can pretty much chalk it up that this isn't someone trolling us.
	Like 150 grand, 18 surgeries.
	This is probably not a troll.
	They probably genuinely believe in what they're doing.
	The United States of America.
	They are exactly what conservatives talk about when they say, what if someone was faking that they're being trans?
	Like, that's why we can't have this.
	Whether they're genuine.
	No, that's not.
	I mean, the problem with people faking being trans, people like who's the trans woman who was trying to sue beauticians to wax her balls, right?
	That one.
	I can't remember the name.
	Yaniv, is it?
	But this is someone who I would suggest is possibly faking it for other nefarious reasons.
	But I think that Ollie London, we can say after this much harm to himself, this much hassle, this much hardship, and this much money, we can say that Ollie London is probably being genuine.
	And going to Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson is, well, I mean, what are his options?
	You know, are you going to give him a platform?
	Are you going to have him on?
	Don't know what's going on.
	Hassan, are you having him on?
	Are you having Ollie London on as a distinguished guest to talk about his trans racialism?
	Why not, Hassan?
	Carl, I love Jermaine Greer.
	Jesus Christ.
	Weirdly, though, like, I find myself on Jermaine Greer's side these days.
	It's really weird.
	Genuinely non-binary or not, I don't know.
	But this person is absolutely baking, like, being Korean and bastardizing the trans experience specifically so that reactionaries can use them as a talking point to say, see, we were right.
	When you can't find someone who is like a trans-trender, you go and you make your own.
	Yeah, right.
	That's it, Hassan.
	Like, we can't find any trans-trenders anywhere.
	They're not all over Twitter or anything.
	Like, oh, God, where could we possibly find a trans-trender?
	No.
	And we don't need an example of your philosophy to prove that you're wrong.
	Like, it's wrong just in principle.
	When you lay out what the conclusions you are drawing from the premises, they're incorrect.
	But the problem that you have here, and this I think is why Hassan's getting so angry about it, is that there is an argument being made on both sides.
	And Hassan has adopted the reactionary argument when it comes to transracialism and the intersectional argument when it comes to transgenderism.
	But the problem he has is the logic of the arguments is exactly the same.
	So the foundations that he's drawing from, why has he chosen one rather than the other in each particular category?
	Now, of course, we know why.
	We'll talk about that in a bit.
	But so the logic of it is that there is something that is in your biological nature, some animating principles that are within you and outside of your control, that if given a normal environment in which to live, you will grow and develop into something that resembles a biological human.
	And that will have certain categories and characteristics depending on the kind of human that you are, because humans actually are different in certain ways.
	And so if, for example, you have XY chromosomes, left to their own devices, they will produce a man.
	Behold, as Diogenes would say.
	And if XX, they obviously produce a woman.
	This is not very controversial, or it wasn't five years ago, that the experience of being an adult human male was what we describe as being a man, and this is directly connected to the biology and age and the sort of stage in life at which a person is.
	And this was the same for women, of course, and this is totally uncontroversial.
	And of course, the same thing follows upon racial lines.
	If I am an Englishman, I'm born with from the racial stock of the English, and I grew up in England, then I'm, of course, an Englishman.
	This is just something natural.
	And this is where Hassan Paiker has decided, you know what, he's right.
	I'm sticking my flag in that because that's fine.
	That's just all normal.
	A sort of naturalistic view of what it is to be a human being, what you grow into and what your characteristics are.
	But the problem that the intersectionals have, and Hassan Pika is very much abandoning this position, is that in fact, there is no connection between your biology and your gender expression.
	This is, of course, the intersectional view of transgenderism.
	And so if there is no connection between biology and transgenderism, there's nothing that stops a adult human female from being a man or an adult human male from being a woman and any other variation in between because there's no anchor.
	There's nothing connecting these to any kind of immutable foundations.
	And so everything flows from this.
	But the problem with that is, okay, so what we're saying is gender is now a transcendental characteristic of a person.
	This is just something they adopt for reasons unknown.
	It's just made up.
	It's all fiction.
	It bears no resemblance to anything that's happening in the real world.
	And so the question is, okay, well, why do we have any genders at all then?
	And now you realize, oh, that's the actual end goal is actually gender abolitionism, which, of course, is what some of them just openly profess.
	Not that Hassan would be nearly smart enough to get anywhere near these ideas.
	But the point is, this is why the UN Women's Forum is like, oh, yeah, women are limitless and formless and the universe.
	It's like, that sounds like they're nothing then, doesn't it?
	Sounds like they're just anything.
	It doesn't matter.
	Anything's a woman now.
	But this, so this is the intersectional position on gender.
	It's disconnected from the body.
	You can just change and chop as you feel.
	And so it's okay.
	Well, why can't we apply that to race?
	And of course, the reason we can't apply that to race, aside from the fact that's just not the way the world works, is that this completely demolishes any intersectional claims of racism and anything based on race.
	It's like, well, if anyone could be a black person, then hey, there's no point giving anything special to black people.
	And there's no point pathologizing white people because white people will cease to exist in the same way that the gender abolitionists have got rid of gender.
	Well, if there's nothing actually connecting me being to my biology for me being white, if white is merely a social construct, if this is just a collection of ideas, then this becomes a transcendental characteristic and anyone could adopt it.
	And if anything, it just starts popping off because everyone's like, okay, well, it's not connected to anything biological.
	How do you define it at all?
	What are the anchors connecting this to reality?
	No, it turns out there aren't any.
	And so that's fine.
	If you're an intersectionalist, you can abolish race.
	Oh, wait, you can't.
	Because there are loads and loads of invested groups who need race to be exclusive and biological and connected to the reality of this sort of human body.
	But the problem, of course, is that these two narratives can't live together.
	One destroys the other.
	And so the question is, which one do you go for?
	And Hassan decided, I'm going for the biological essentialist one.
	That's interesting.
	I mean, I would have gone the same.
	I don't think you can change your race either, Hassan.
	But then, following that logic, why can you change your gender?
	So everything Hassan says in this video from this point onwards can be equally applied in exactly the same way to gender.
	And so every insult that Hassan throws at Ollie, he is throwing at the transgender community.
	He is going to carpet bomb them with unbelievable red pills on how transgenderism, in Hassan's view, inferred from his logic on transracialism, is not valid.
	And no transgender people are valid as far as he is concerned.
	Identify as Korean, that's just my culture.
	That's my home country.
	That's exactly how I look now.
	But people are very angry at Ali London.
	What's making you so mad, bro?
	Hmm?
	Hmm?
	Bigotry?
	He changed his fucking editors.
	Like, he's just doing this shit now.
	It's so...
	Ah!
	Okay, I gotta pee.
	Hassan's got no argument there.
	Korean, as Caitlin Jenner is a woman.
	Ali London is a big fan of a particular Korean pop star named Park Jimin and decided to have $150,000 worth of plastic surgery in order to quote-unquote look more Korean.
	And now Ali London identifies as trans-Korean.
	Here's Ali London explaining their new identity.
	I identify as Korean, that's just my culture.
	That's my home country.
	I love how I look now.
	And I also identify as Jimin.
	That's my Korean name.
	But not only that, I just, I know it's a little bit confusing for some people.
	Nobody's ever come out as Jimin or Korean.
	But this is something that you guys know if you've followed my journey for the last eight years.
	I've really struggled with identity issues with who I am.
	Trans-Koreans are Koreans.
	Basically, I covered this last week where I talked about how this person was absolutely just using this as an opportunity to get a little bit of clout.
	Okay.
	And it's clear that that's what's going on.
	Is that clear, though?
	I mean, they seem to have a verified check mark.
	I'm sure they've got millions of followers on TikTok and whatever.
	You know, is that what they're doing?
	Or is this actually a severely confused person who has decided that there is not enough emotional weight to their own culture?
	Perhaps because of, I don't know, a decades-long campaign of trying to undermine what it is to be British.
	You know, maybe something like that.
	And he's looking at a culture that isn't suffering from pathological wokeism and has decided, actually, I find something virtuous in that because I'm not allowed to appreciate the virtues of my own culture.
	Because that's what I'm thinking.
	That's what it looks like to me.
	It doesn't look like he's a troll or he's trying to hurt anyone.
	It looks like someone who's sad and confused, which is awful, isn't it, Hassan?
	I would have thought we should have had some concern for those people, a bit of compassion, maybe.
	I mean, I'm not the leftist here, so you know, I'm obviously on unfamiliar ground when talking about compassion as an evil right-winger.
	I don't care about other people, obviously, Hassan.
	But you, as the compassionate lefty, I just am amazed at the way that you treat Ollie London.
	It's kind of horrible, and I don't see the need for it.
	So that right-wing reactionaries could hop onto this and be like, trans people are silly, trans people are ridiculous.
	Look, this person is like obviously not Korean.
	They're claiming that they're Korean.
	Look at how crazy this person is.
	Look at how much of a freak this person is.
	To then turn around and literally say, like, this represents all trans people.
	And they don't care about giving this person clout.
	I don't understand how you can turn around and, I don't know, seek shelter, I guess, or seek clout from an audience of people who literally want you to be euthanized.
	Hassan is that the charitable interpretation of right-wing opinions, is it?
	Well, you know, Tucker Carlson and Sean Housey essentially want Ollie London euthanized.
	Not even essentially, just literally.
	Like, they literally want them dead, don't they, Hassan?
	Like, what?
	What kind?
	Do you not think that you sound like a lunatic there?
	Like, nobody wants anyone dead.
	Like, there's such a and the only people who accuse others of wanting others dead are the sort of people that I think they're just trying to validate their own beliefs.
	Like, are you saying there are people who should be dead?
	I mean, I realize that you've been like, America deserved 9-11 and jihadis are freedom fighters.
	So maybe you do.
	But I mean, even then, I would probably assume that you don't want anyone dead.
	Why can't you assume that of your countrymen, your fellow Americans, Hassan?
	It's so weird.
	Because the reality is, like, this person and his followers think you are a freak.
	They want you to be murdered.
	They want you to be euthanized.
	So it's wild that you would turn around and seek refuge with them for a crumb of clout.
	You missed it, but Hassan, that's not true.
	No one wants anyone to be murdered.
	You were a lunatic.
	You're just gone off the reservation.
	It's even allowed to say that phrase.
	You have beyond the pale.
	You've lost it, buddy.
	Don't know what's going on.
	Why would you think that that's what right-wingers want?
	Like, it's so wild.
	Shabiba already said Ollie is as Korean as Caitlin Jenner is a woman, hello, transphobic out the gate.
	Yeah, oh, for sure.
	I already know.
	Here is one thing Ollie London could have.
	He already knows this is transphobic.
	No, you're being transphobic if you reject transracialism on exactly the grounds that you call Ben Shapiro transphobic for rejecting transgenderism.
	It's exactly the same.
	You can't escape this.
	You can't deny it.
	This is what caused the Hypatia scandal in 2017.
	And that was amazing because someone had written an article essentially, I think it was just called In Defense of Transracialism.
	And they were explaining, well, look, how can we deny this exactly?
	You know, we us big-brained academics, if we're like, yeah, okay, if people can change their gender and that's not connected to their body, why can't they do that with their race?
	And that caused a massive shitstorm.
	And essentially, there was a response written last year that was basically just like, we don't have to deal with this.
	We can just pump this down the road and deal with it later.
	Oh, very brave.
	You know, and this is where Hassan Paikus found himself.
	Could have done if they genuinely wanted to be Korean, learn the language, live there for a couple years, and then apply for citizenship.
	Ooh, ooh, ooh, right.
	Okay, so are we saying that Brits in England who don't speak English aren't English?
	And they aren't citizens?
	Oh, that's not very inclusive, is it?
	Like, that's a very interesting thing.
	Because there are going to be loads of American citizens who've got a shaky grasp on English, but speak Spanish really well.
	Are they not Americans, Hassan?
	You know, why is it that Ollie's got a bunch of things that he has to do just to identify as Korean?
	But no, no woman has to do anything to become a man.
	I mean, I'm supposed to say, oh, Mr. Elliot Page, and treat him like a man, even though he's five foot one and built like a garden rake.
	So, am I supposed to go right?
	The apex of masculinity right here.
	Can I put some borders and boundaries on this?
	And I say, sorry, unless you can bench X or you can do Y, then I don't accept you as a man.
	Can I do that?
	If you're not going to accept Ollie London as a Korean, Mr. Gatekeeper of who is and isn't Korean?
	But Ollie London didn't do any of that.
	You called him a freak?
	Yeah, he is a freak.
	They are a freak.
	Okay, they are a freak.
	Dear trans people, Hassan Pika thinks you're a freak.
	That's his opinion.
	Because you're not doing what it required, in his view, to become the thing you're trying to be.
	You can't just say it, you have to do something.
	Because anyone who seeks shelter with the Republican Party, if they are legitimately non-binary, whether they're legitimately non-binary or not, it doesn't even matter.
	They're a freak regardless because they think that they're fucking Jimin.
	If you Jesus Christ.
	They're a freak regardless because they think X.
	I mean, I can't believe the trans people in your own audience aren't chewing you out for this, Hassan.
	I can't believe that you think you're going to get away with this.
	I mean, you probably will because there's no accountability in the left.
	And this is the thing.
	You're sat there going, oh, the Republicans want to kill non-binary people or whatever nonsense you think.
	It's like, no, the Republicans actually believe in individual rights.
	Like, they think they can, you know, they'll have a right to disagree with you.
	But I don't think they think that you need to be shot or something because they genuinely believe you have a right to life, to your body, as your own property, and the things you own, and to get on with your day.
	And they don't have to agree with you.
	You don't have to agree with them.
	They actually have quite a good way of looking at the world, actually.
	It's one that I completely endorse.
	I don't think that people should actually just be killed for the things that they think or the things that they do to themselves.
	I mean, Ollie London can make himself look Korean if he wants.
	I don't care.
	It's not my problem.
	You know, if we're going to talk about the philosophical foundations of race and gender, though, well, then that's a different conversation.
	But you go straight for the juggler with Ollie.
	Ollie's a freak.
	Not very nice.
	If you think you are a BTS fan to the degree where you're like, literally, I am this person.
	I identify as this person.
	You're a freak.
	It's not about being non-binary.
	It's about being a different person and literally trying to wear their face.
	Right.
	So, I mean, I agree, Hassan, that Jamin or Ollie has problems.
	Right?
	They clearly have some sort of emotional problem, identity problems.
	I'm not a psychologist, but I would consider that they perhaps need some therapy.
	But you instead are going to yell freak at them in front of a giant internet audience.
	Very progressive.
	But I agree.
	Thinking that you can be something else that you're not and having everyone play into that delusion.
	Not wise, is it, Hassan?
	I don't know why people have this immediate notion to be like, well, every experience is valid.
	That will be used against you to actually shit on well-documented and legitimate valid experiences.
	By the likes of people like Ollie London, dude, if all experiences are valid, and that is, I mean, that is a true statement, they are experiences, then if that's the premise that the intersections operate from, how can you even object?
	And what metrics are you using to distinguish valid from invalid experiences?
	You've got no way of saying and explaining to us why Ollie London's transracialism is not valid, but why Caitlin Jenner's transgenderism is valid because they're based on the same argument, they rest on the same foundations, they use the same mechanisms.
	The only difference is the content that's going through the logical script.
	And, like, it I'm gonna carry on, I'm gonna let him carry on.
	And the conservatives who will use that calling them a freak is a bit off.
	No, the fuck it's not, dude.
	If you're literally getting plastic surgery to be Jim in, you're a fucking freak.
	It has nothing to do with.
	If you're literally getting plastic surgery to be a man, what's the answer to the end of that sentence, Hassan?
	Not very nice.
	Not very nice.
	I disavow.
	I disavow.
	We're very trans-inclusive on this channel, of course.
	If someone is going to go through all of the effort and have a lot of surgery, then I'm prepared to use the pronouns that they're asking for, assuming that they're just he or she.
	I'm not learning a bunch of new bullshit pronouns, but I am prepared to be polite and say she rather than he or he rather than she, because I'm nice that way.
	I'm a nice guy.
	I'm not Hassan Pika.
	I respect people.
	You could, I'm pretty much the number one pronoun respecter, at least on this channel.
	But being non-binary, it is a completely separate concept.
	If you can't fit that in your fucking brain, I don't know what to tell you.
	And by the way, there are a billion fucking cis people that are freaks too.
	And there are trans people who are freaks as well.
	All freaks matter.
	I love it.
	I love this.
	It doesn't matter, San.
	None of that matters.
	And that's why you're shouting.
	You're shouting because you're angry because you've got no out.
	You're trapped.
	You've fallen into this, what is it, Snarlak pit or whatever.
	And it's going to eat you.
	It's you're just rolling and you're just hanging on, desperately clean, but the sand's moving under your feet and you're getting closer and closer and closer.
	You can't escape this.
	I'm amazed that you put this clip up.
	Not because they're trans, but because they have freak-like fucking points of view on the planet.
	Nah, it sounds like transphobia and racism to me, Hassan.
	I mean, you know, I know that, you know, everyone says this, and everyone's like, yeah, well, I mean, obviously there are normal people, like, sorry, normal people, cis people, who are freaks and trans people are freaks.
	But whenever you say that about any group, your lot are the first to jump and say, well, that's because you're racist.
	That's because you're transphobic.
	So why shouldn't I just extend that courtesy to you?
	But go off.
	There are a lot of leftists who come from a place of empathy that dupe those leftists who Hassan, you're just screaming freak at someone who's clearly mentally vulnerable.
	Don't point to yourself when you say the word empathy.
	Good God.
	Who get fucking duped by people like this?
	And they're not even hiding it.
	They're literally like, I am going to fuck you over by adding Ben Shapiro and Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity.
	And I am going to become a person that they can weaponize against you if you're a trans person.
	And you're out here literally like, no, sorry.
	It's a little fucked up that you're doing this.
	Trans Koreans are Koreans.
	And if I say it over and over, it becomes true.
	You can't refute that, Hassan.
	You can't.
	And this, you know, you can't.
	Now, you're going to have to explain to me why Ollie London is not a Korean.
	Really?
	And if you say things like, well, Ollie London has never been Korean.
	Yes, but trans women are not women.
	I mean, not a single trans woman has ever been a woman.
	Not one.
	And if you say, well, you know, Ali London doesn't even have any of the characteristics of being a Korean absent surgery.
	I will say to you, neither does a trans woman.
	And if you say to me that Ali London has never gone through the experience of actually being Korean, didn't grow up Korean, I'll say neither has a trans woman.
	There are zero distinctions, none between being trans-Korean and being a trans person of another sex.
	And Ben Shapiro is completely right here.
	There's no getting around it.
	The logic is airtight.
	This is the issue that kills intersectionality.
	Or it destroys the power of identity politics.
	Because guess what, guys?
	We all just got our M-word passes back.
	In fact, the only distinction is cut in favor of being transracial rather than transsexual.
	You can more easily shift your race, which is, in fact, a fluid concept.
	See?
	This is why this shit sucks.
	You understand?
	I mean, you already understand this, especially if you're a trans person.
	You already understand that this is like, this is a project to be created to weaponize against your entire existence as though there is not enough discrimination already occurring.
	There's a difference between your race and your gender.
	This distinction, regardless of what people think, is obvious.
	That's precisely why gender is a social construct.
	It's all the different working parts that tie into our comprehension of what your gender is.
	And all of that is exactly applied in the same way to the Casgrave race, Hassan.
	There is, as Ben Shapiro points out, no distinction here.
	You use the same logic.
	And that's why you're like, the thug.
	Yeah, this sucks for you, for the left.
	And you are right that this is being weaponized as a weapon against the left.
	Because it is.
	It's a brilliant weapon against the left.
	Because you guys are so stupid that you have decided that the pillars of the earth should be undermined when it comes to gender.
	But when it comes to race, you're standing on that pillar and you don't want that to be undermined.
	Well, too bad.
	I've got exactly the right tools for it.
	And I don't see why I wouldn't just get to work.
	Because to be honest with you, if we're going to abolish something, I am way more for race abolitionism than I am for gender abolitionism.
	Like, I actually really do believe in the sort of like post-racial world where we can talk to people about things that aren't their race.
	I'm like, you know, call me an idealistic child of the 90s, if you like.
	But that's a future I can truly believe in.
	You know, I can't believe in a future where, literally, like, what was the thing the other day?
	The black lady at the spa.
	And she's just like, I've just seen a dick in there.
	I've just seen a dick in the girls' area in front of a bunch of kids.
	And they're like, yeah, you're going to have to leave, ma'am, because you're the problem.
	It's like, right, yeah.
	I mean, you know, but give me the future where nobody sits there telling me about the race of the person.
	That's fine.
	Social construct that surrounds race as well.
	But someone who has made the legitimate effort to become a Korean national or a Korean person.
	Why does that have to be a national?
	Why does it have to be about nationality?
	We're talking about race.
	We're talking about ethnicity.
	We're talking about the soul, Hassan.
	We're not talking about a legal document.
	I mean, I thought you were a communist.
	Anyway, I thought you want to abolish all nations or states.
	Like, you know, why are you appealing to that?
	Is entirely different than someone who's like, I'm a Korean person now because I got eye surgery.
	There is no dysphoria for race.
	Oh!
	Why not?
	What stops there from being?
	Why can't there be?
	And why can't I just say there is no dysphoria for gender?
	Because you'll say, oh, but there are people who feel gender dysphoria.
	And I'll say, well, there are people who feel race dysphoria.
	And Ollie London's one of them.
	Sorry, Jamin London is one of them.
	And you better recognize his new name.
	That's also the same reason why we disregard people who feel as though they are like animals and stuff.
	Disregarding people, very inclusive.
	But you don't, do you?
	That's the problem.
	These things are all being treated as valid.
	Two-spirit and all this sort of nonsense.
	Various kinds of ridiculous self-expression and self-identity.
	All the Tumblr stuff that from 2012 just migrated to Twitter and then just became mainstream left-wing philosophy, weirdly.
	That's dictated by Twitter.
	But yeah, I don't think you would.
	And I think that a lot of people actually find that to be valid.
	And that's amusing too.
	Dysphoria is not a requirement as a trans medicalist opinion.
	I know it's not a requirement.
	Then why did you bring it up?
	They don't need to be dysphoric to transition their gender because there's nothing inherent.
	And again, gender dysphoria would be something inherent in your biology that you can't change.
	It's a medical condition in your brain.
	was considered to be a disorder before it got changed because of a bunch of trans activists bullying the medical associations.
	Why does it need, there doesn't need to be anything about your biology that maps to the gender role?
	And so you don't, as you say, need dysphoria.
	This is not an issue.
	You're on defense and you know you're losing.
	But there is no way you can make this fucking argument, dude.
	There's no way you can resist this argument, dude.
	Would you like to make this argument?
	Then go ahead.
	I love making this argument.
	I want to have like this destroys here.
	You want to know what it is?
	You want to know why this is like really fucking annoying to me?
	Unfortunately, if you're looking for me to like absolutely obliterate this point of view, I can't.
	Boom!
	He can be taught.
	He finally got to the point.
	He can't obliterate this point of view, and he knows it.
	He knows how bad this is.
	Why, Hassan, are you committed to a ridiculous ideology that you get to a point, you're like, look, I just can't defend any of this.
	This destroys transgenderism if we allow it, if we engage it.
	So the only thing we can do is not engage.
	And that's not exactly a brave thing to do, is it?
	Because people like this literally destroy this argument.
	And people like you in the chat who fucking turn around and advocate for certain things literally also help this argument craft.
	You get that, right?
	Like, you want everything to be a valid concept.
	And if that is your, if that's your fucking point of view, then yeah, people like Ollie London are going to shatter that.
	And just because dysphoria is not a requirement to be trans does not mean that like it is a legitimate thing that has been well documented throughout time and makes up a pretty sizable chunk of trans people's existences.
	Doesn't matter.
	If dysphoria isn't a necessary condition to become trans, then why bring it up?
	And what prevents anyone who doesn't have dysphoria from simply being trans in some other way?
	As in, why can't I transition my race?
	I mean, maybe I will start identifying as a black man because I would love to be saying the N-word all over the place.
	No, I'm joking.
	I'm not going to say the M word, obviously.
	So the time has passed for that, but the joke's still, the meme's still funny.
	But yeah, what now?
	What now, Hassan?
	You're trapped in a worsening position in a political movement that is rejecting you.
	I mean, look at your own chat.
	Your own chat's like, hang on a second.
	You're full of it, Hassan.
	We've got to go for this.
	There's nothing wrong.
	And it was the same with Vorsch talking about keeping kink out of pride.
	Weirdly, Vorsch, he declined to have a debate with me about kink and pride.
	And I find that really odd.
	Because you'd think, I mean, he'd be a hardcore defender of that.
	Because, of course, what's the argument?
	Why shouldn't there be kink and pride?
	Be proud of who you are.
	You should be accepted no matter what you're like, etc., etc.
	Hmm.
	Vorsch had to get very, very reactionary to argue against that.
	Arguing from the sanctity of children's innocence, which is something I believe in because I'm a conservative, I've been told.
	So that's fine.
	But if you're a leftist and you don't want to be reactionary, you don't believe in conservative ideals.
	How is it that Vorsh was forced to fall back on being a conservative?
	Which I guess is why he didn't want to argue with me.
	And how is it that Hassan has been forced to fall back on being a biological essentialist?
	I love where this is going.
	That doesn't make you a trans medicalist to recognize that.
	Aren't you making a bad argument?
	And if it can be destroyed by this, there is no good argument against it, unfortunately.
	Boom!
	I love it.
	I love the admissions.
	There's no good argument against transracialism from the left-wing perspective.
	This validates everything the conservatives have ever said.
	You know that, Hassan, right?
	You've literally, just by that admission, nuked all of intersectionality.
	Because if we can deny this, we can deny the next one and the next one and the next one and the next one.
	And so all of this lived experience valid bullcrap about whether it is or isn't real, et cetera, et cetera.
	It all goes away.
	All of this now, the dominoes are going to fall.
	Now that if we can get the left to accept that that's the case, if Hassan gets to be the crowbar that leverages open, that crack in the left, we can have it all flood out.
	It's all nonsense.
	If you believe that every experience is fucking valid, unconditionally, then you have to acknowledge that Ollie London has neo-pronouns co-enrian and they're actually a Korean and maybe even Jemin.
	And in the same way, Ben Shapiro has got to say that Caitlin Jenner is actually a woman and uses the pronoun she.
	You have arrived at the Ben Shapiro position, Hassan.
	You are the new Ben Shapiro Hassan Pika.
	That's you.
	You're doing it.
	You're doing exactly the same thing.
	But that person is not playing in good faith.
	They're not like saying this is legitimate and this is actual.
	Too bad.
	This is real.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Hassan, Hassan, no.
	You don't get to say that.
	Someone spends hundreds of thousands of dollars and gets 18 like elective surgeries, so you didn't need to have.
	We're not going to say they're operating in bad faith.
	That's ridiculous.
	I mean, like, that's a lot of hassle to go through if you are not sincere about this.
	Operate that way.
	And if you do, you're fucking crazy.
	I'm sorry.
	If you literally think that, like, this person is unironically fucking Korean and Hassan, right?
	There are women out there and men out there who think they're unironically the opposite gender and actually chop parts of their body off, parts that will never regrow, parts that will render them sterile and parts that often don't heal properly.
	And I mean, read some of the trans regret stories out there.
	I mean, honestly, you've never read anything as nightmarish in your entire life.
	You know, the sort of like, you know, the spooky ghost story, evil story, like YouTube channels, they've got nothing on Reddit posts about transgender regret.
	It's the worst thing I've ever read.
	And there's no coming back from it.
	And Ollie London, I mean, at the end of the day, if he's like, you know what, I'm not really a Korean, what's the worst he's got to show for it?
	He's got some surgery in his eyes and his lips and his nose.
	Okay.
	He doesn't look like, you know, that bad.
	You know, it's not that bad or anything.
	Even if all of this ideological sort of construct around him collapses and he has to admit he's a Brit who's just had a bit of facial surgery.
	It's not the end of the world.
	His life will probably carry on as normal.
	That's not what happens if you have had transgender surgery, gender confirmation surgery.
	It's so life-changing.
	I mean, it used to be used as a punishment.
	Like, it used to be what you would do to a conquered enemy.
	Also, their neo-pronouns are Ko-Enrian, and that they're actually a Korean person, and that is similar to the trans experience, then you are playing into the fucking meme.
	They are not actually Korean, but still deserve to be respected and identity as a non-binary person.
	Yeah, which is why I'm using they, them pronouns.
	And I know that a lot of people get triggered by this because they're like, a lot of people claim non-binary people are looking for attention, and that's why they're doing it.
	Well, this person is literally looking for attention.
	And if you come in here and you're like, we have to acknowledge, we have to acknowledge their pronouns of being of co- and rein, like, I guess I'm too transphobic.
	I'm too old.
	Hassan Piker confirmed transphobic.
	Yeah, no, Hassan, you are exactly in exactly the wrong place.
	You're stuck.
	You're just going to have to sit there and be a bad person.
	You're going to have to reject trans as a concept if you want to reject transracialism, which is why, of course, the left is just constantly trying to hammer the eject button on the conversation.
	And therefore transphobic, if that's like where we're at.
	So I'll just be honest with you.
	As someone who advocates for trans rights, I don't understand it.
	And it fucking, it literally does not fit in my brain.
	Yep, you've just rejected trans rights, Hassan.
	This is the thing.
	You got on a train and you were like, I like where this is going, but I don't want to get to the end.
	And it's like, okay, well, why didn't you get off then?
	Because now you're at the end and you regret it.
	Like, this looks ridiculous.
	And your chat, your audience think that what you're doing is wrong.
	You know, they think that this should, you should keep going.
	Why not?
	What are you appealing to?
	I mean, in fact, that's not true.
	There were people in the chat I saw as I was going past, his chat, who were saying, well, I mean, you know, we'll be polite about the pronouns, but we know it's not real.
	It's like, oof, are you allowed to say that?
	I'm allowed to say that, but are you allowed to say that?
	Okay.
	Right?
	Race is a social construct, apparently.
	If race is a social construct, you should be able to fluidly shift between them, between the races, far more easily than sex, which is a biological concept deeply ingrained and rooted.
	I love this because, like, Ben doesn't think race is a social construct, and Ben doesn't think sex is a social or not sex, but gender is a social construct.
	But for this argument, for the sake of this argument, he's like making it seem like he does believe in it.
	Oh, my God.
	He's adopting our position to make a point.
	Oh, God.
	I can't understand it.
	It's so bizarre.
	Hassan, it's so obvious that he's just using your own standards to prove that you're a bunch of hypocrites and your philosophy is incoherent.
	And you refuse to follow it as it's laid down.
	Like, it's so obvious.
	Like, no one thinks that Ben Shapiro is like, you know, being a snake here and switching his positions around.
	He's making your point that you are too cowardly to make yourself.
	Just so he can fucking devalue trans people.
	You don't.
	You've just told trans people they're all freaks and that they're not valid and they can deal with it because you're a transphobe.
	That's what you've just come out with in this video, Hassan.
	So I don't think you should be pointing fingers and casting aspersions on other people.
	Do you?
	You don't inherit your gender from your fucking parents in the same way that your race is tied to your genes and to your parents and you are born a specific race.
	Hassan, I actually think if we're going to be the gender essentialist that we are and we're going to come out and say, you know what, I think there is a connection between our genes and the way that we have to live in the world.
	You actually do get your genes from your parents, even when it comes to the nature of your sexual characteristics.
	That still comes from your parents, Hassan.
	I know it's hard to believe, but it really does.
	social construct of race revolves around the exclusion of non-whites for example like the one drop rule or the different ways that we have historically and still to this day oppressed specific races transracial is the thing i what races do we oppress today specifically And I assume you can point me to the racial laws that show this, right?
	Because I know that you haven't read any of this shit.
	And I know that you don't know what you're talking about.
	And basically, your knowledge on American history is based on memes.
	So, you know, don't give me this.
	I invented it.
	If you can be transgender, you can be transracial.
	Live your life to the fullest.
	Be who you want to be and spread love.
	Hashtag Ollie London.
	Like, this person's getting like 10 fucking retweets, dude.
	not even doing a good enough job because the people that they're now they're not even worth talking about because they're not getting enough clout They got Sam seeded.
	Trying to get fucking quout from despise them.
	Like, they want them to be.
	Those people want them to be murdered.
	You know what I mean?
	There are definitely ultra-woke people that identify this way.
	I know a few that say they respond to the attack helicopter memes should just be the respected person's attack helicopter identity.
	Yeah, extremely online weirdos, dude.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's insane.
	Sorry.
	Like, you're not a fucking attack helicopter.
	You're not an attack helicopter.
	You're not a Korean.
	But you are a woman.
	Hassan Pika, 2021.
	And Ollie London is not Korean.
	You can find people that, I mean, there's, they're all.
	It's literally the Ben Shapiro argument to Caitlin Jeddah.
	It's just literally what he says to her.
	Like, come on, Hassan.
	There are now maps, you know, minor attracted person shit.
	Does that make it right?
	No.
	So who gives a fuck?
	Okay, Hassan.
	I know why I think it's wrong, but I'd like to know why you think it's wrong.
	Because you're going to have to do what Vorsch has done and try to wind back all of the, you know, Vorsh tries to wind back all of his pedophilia apologetics by just defaulting to conservative views and foundations when it comes to why paedophilia is wrong.
	I agree.
	I mean, as a conservative, I'm happy to use those foundations too.
	But why would you say that's wrong?
	What is it you're objecting to?
	And is it, again, kind of reactionary in the same way that me and Vorsh are?
	Are you getting a bit reactionary when it comes to the extremities of social justice?
	Does it turn out there's validity in conservative ideology?
	Does it turn out that actually maybe there's validity in other parts of conservative ideology?
	And maybe we start walking this back and being like, okay, but where was the valid part of the leftist ideology?
	If the conservative ideology is, say, internally consistent and actually seems to stand on its own foundations and leftist ideology doesn't, and you have to start appealing to other people's foundations to say, oh, yeah, well, I'm all for this, but I'm going to be a conservative when it comes to children.
	Why not be a conservative in other areas of life?
	You know, what is it that is missing there?
	But anyway.
	But there are people, yeah, they're crazy.
	Shut the fuck up.
	Man, there's a whole rabbit hole of adult maps that identify as being underage.
	Obviously, really super online cringe shit, but I've seen it on Twitter.
	That's what I'm saying.
	Yes, dude.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to use really fucking aggressive terms here.
	But some people have fucking mental health problems that either go unaddressed or rather they just lean into it.
	Okay.
	And that's what Hassan Pika thinks about the trans community.
	Pretty much what Ben Shapiro thinks about the trans community, too, isn't it?
	Really fucking reactionary there, Hassan.
	That's it.
	You don't have to look deeper into it to be like, oh, I wonder what's going on here.
	This must be a look.
	You can't refuse the maps.
	You can't refuse the transracials.
	Or you end up refusing the transgenders.
	It's your choice.
	Valid identity or a valid reason to feel this way.
	Like, no.
	And I know that people look at that and go, well, that's a slippery slope argument that you can extend the trans existence.
	And I don't.
	I don't think that you can do that.
	That's because you're an idiot, Hassan, and you're playing, what this is is special pleading.
	You're saying it's okay for me, but not for thee.
	It's like, why?
	But I suppose what you have to do then is adopt the Vorsch position that moral consistency is for people who are concerned about ethics and you're concerned of power at any cost.
	And so because it's convenient and selectively useful to you in this moment, you refuse that.
	But if it was useful in a different moment, you would embrace it.
	So, you know, the Calicles position, which, I mean, I don't know whether I suppose I have to explain who Calicles is.
	He's a character from one of Plato's dialogues, presumably a real person in Athens, who just basically went, his opinion on philosophy is we just don't need to engage with it.
	We don't need to be morally consistent.
	We can just be stronger than our opposition and crush them that way.
	then it doesn't matter.
	And that's, I mean, I suppose what we call evil, a good way of defining evil.
	And one of the main points of Western philosophy since Aristotle and Plato has been, how do we get people to commit to being ethical?
	And you're at the point where I'm just like, I refuse.
	I refuse ethics.
	I refuse consistency.
	I refuse to commit to being a good person by one standard or another.
	I just refuse.
	And it's like, okay, but then that's the position of the evil man.
	Like, that's a villain's position, which is why it's so shocking that just Vorsch just folded into it so easily.
	And why destiny is just like, right, this is crazy.
	I can't be associated with this.
	This is mad.
	This is absolute madness.
	And that's why destiny has been going so hard on the left at the moment.
	Because you're obviously evil.
	You're obviously evil.
	And I'm not doing that.
	It surprises me how you can say that this person cannot be Korean, but he can say that he has no gender.
	First of all, if you recognize that they're non-binary, you don't say he, you say they.
	real world there are going to be people who go to the extent to absolutely bastardize certain concepts for personal gain and clout that does not make up the overwhelming majority of that does not make up the overwhelming majority of the the trans experience Hang on, Hassan.
	Why are we appealing to the majority?
	If we're appealing to the majority, then you just invalidate every single thing about left-wing ideology entirely.
	Because it's all based around fringe minorities.
	The minority this, the minority that, the minority the other.
	Their rights aren't being served.
	And Hassan's suddenly like, yeah, but if the majority aren't doing it, fuck those people.
	No, Hassan, that's not how the left-wing works.
	I'm sure you've noticed by now, you are universal and inclusive.
	So all of those people, even those fringe freaks at the edges, you've got to bring them in.
	You can't just say, well, the majority are doing this, therefore, because you call that tyranny in every other circumstance, you fucking idiot.
	You can't.
	Oh, most of them aren't doing that.
	It doesn't matter.
	You consider the majority to be inherently oppressive because of the inherent, the unchecked biases of the majority.
	Appealing to the majority is the very antithesis of your own political position, you reactionary.
	In the same way that conservatives will imply it does, to devalue trans people and make it seem like they're faking it for attention or faking anybody's mindset.
	Your words are not fucking fucking weightlifting competitions as though that's a good enough reason to literally get fucking obliterated in every other part of your lives.
	Like because we make trans existence a living hell for trans people.
	Do we?
	Do we do this?
	Is this something we do?
	Is it something you do when you're busy invalidating all?
	I don't do any of that.
	I just try to be nice to people.
	And it seems that most people get along okay.
	I mean, you know, if you want to start talking about specifics, as in specific instances of trans people being beaten, there was an Arabic chap in New York recently who attacked a trans person.
	Wasn't there?
	I'm pretty sure there was.
	And then you get other communities that aren't so respectful of people's rights.
	But anyway, not need to go on with that, I think.
	I think you get the point, don't you, Hassan?
	But ultimately, you just have to recognize that some people are just fucking bad faith.
	I guess the place I draw the line is like, when you claim you're a different race than you actually are, or when you claim that you're a different species than you actually are.
	Then why can't we just move that line to claiming you're a different gender than what you actually are, Hassan?
	Like, you've just arbitrarily gone, that's where I like it.
	That's where I like this line.
	No, I'm not going to give you a reason.
	No, I'm not going to go any further.
	And no, I'm not even going to engage with the moral arguments that demand that we take this line even further to the left.
	Why?
	Why?
	Because it looks bad.
	That's why.
	Because this is where it's getting to the point where you realize actually this is based on bullshit premises.
	And we've pushed it really, really far.
	And now we've got to the end of it.
	Then I kind of have to admit the whole thing was bollocks.
	That's why.
	And you're afraid.
	You don't want to do that.
	Of course you don't want to do that.
	It's a tragic thing.
	That would be paradigm destroying.
	You know, this is something obviously Hassan's going to be like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
	And just run away from.
	Brave Sir Hassan ran away.
	And age, too.
	You can't think you're a different age.
	I mean, there's a bunch of shit that you just understand.
	Their pronouns are also Corey.
	And I find it funny that Leftist Builder needs to defend this.
	Yeah, I don't understand Neo pronouns.
	I don't get it.
	I hit everybody with the they, them.
	Okay.
	I'm a Joe Biden Andy on that end.
	I know that this is a big point of contention for the Minecraft stand Twitter crowd.
	Like when people are like, I'm Faye or Fairy, or I think that's the thing that people will say and they identify as like being a fairy or something.
	I don't get it.
	I'm too fucking old, man.
	Okay.
	I also don't fully understand how to fucking do neo pronouns.
	Like, how do I do I just say Fae when I'm referencing a person?
	I just wish that there were no fucking gender pronouns in the English language.
	Man, imagine being part of a political movement where literally like a huge segment of it, you're just like, look, I just wish they didn't exist.
	I just wish I wasn't, I didn't have to deal with these people.
	I don't understand them.
	I don't think they're valid.
	I don't know why I have to talk about them and I just wish they'd go away.
	Like, why is that your political position?
	Like, why are you standing going, yeah, yeah, those freaks as well.
	Yeah, I mean, I'm on their side, I guess.
	Like, why have you found yourself like that, Hassan?
	I mean, I'm guessing it's for the money, isn't it?
	Especially because, like, I learned, I had to learn gender pronouns when I learned English coming from a Turkish background where we don't have any gender pronouns in the Turkish language.
	And then I had to learn this shit.
	And now people are like, actually, there's a lot more that you need to learn.
	But I also feel like most people that, most people that use neo-pronouns don't stress being called they them.
	Like, I've never had someone be like, how dare you not call me Fae and regard me as they, them.
	So it's like, okay.
	And so I say to you, during Pride Month, live your truth, Ollie.
	Live your truth.
	Ollie London is just as Korean as Caitlin Jenner is a woman.
	Ollie London's pronouns, it should be noted, are now they, them, core, e-n.
	Those are the pronouns.
	And I've been told that there are many different types of pronouns by no less a source than the New York Times.
	And people have been using neo-pronouns.
	So there really is no problem here.
	Once you have accidentally, correctly gendered a trans woman, it's over.
	Every argument goes back to that.
	Okay, boys.
	Here it is.
	Why?
	Why?
	Why, why, why, Hassan?
	Why is that the case?
	I mean, fixating on one time when Ben Shapiro had a slip and accidentally used she for Caitlin Jenner doesn't undo the fact that you've called trans people in their entirety mentally deranged freaks who need to be ignored.
	Like, that doesn't excuse it.
	I don't, I mean, I guess we'll watch the last couple of minutes because I think he's just going on about Ben Shapiro now.
	Here it is.
	Okay, and I'm using the gender neutral boys here.
	Transgender woman from Orange is the New Black.
	I never watched that show.
	I've never watched that show either, but she's on the cover of Time Magazine.
	Oh.
	Or he's on the cover of Time Magazine.
	Ben Shapiro has correctly gendered Caitlin Jenner in the past and has stopped himself and then literally turned around and misgendered Caitlin Jenner deliberately because he does it out of pure malice.
	Hassan Pika deliberately misracialized Ollie London and he does it deliberately, even though he recognizes that trans people are valid.
	Just saying, Hassan, I think he spends the rest of the video whining about that.
	So I think that's pretty much the end of Hassan's wonderful, wonderful contribution.
	But of course, remember, follow me on Getter.
	Linked in the description.
	Just until it gets taken out.
	But yeah, so that's the end of transgenderism.
	Hassan Piker has destroyed it.
	He's been the one with the nails in the coffin.
	Hassan Pika, the grim reaper of intersectionality, has come along with his scythe and all trans people.
	In his words, quote, freaks.
	Bad look, in my opinion.
	Like I said, we accept trans people.
	We love trans people here.
	All trans identities are valid, even transracial ones, because we're way more progressive than Hassan.
	Why do people keep writing Jermaine Greer in the chat?
	Yeah, it's great, isn't it, Michelle?
	Pronouns are idiotic.
	How many languages will accommodate this madness?
	I don't think pronouns themselves as a concept are idiotic, but I think the idea that you can just arbitrarily choose your pronouns.
	I mean, who chooses their pronoun?
	No one chooses their own pronoun.
	I just find it bizarre that they can just sit there going, oh, yeah, well, I choose these pronouns.
	Okay, but the point of the pronoun is that it's another person recognizing the social signals you are giving about certain things.
	And so this is why, of course, like, you know, a man who wants to become a woman will wear makeup, wear a dress, have surgery or, you know, hormone treatment to grow breasts and act in a feminine way.
	So they know that in my brain, I have the knowledge of what a she is, and they're doing their best to make themselves be the content that will fill that kind of empty vessel for the term.
	And so when I see that person, I'll think she.
	If I don't know what their pronouns are, if they're made up words, then I don't have even the word to try and fill.
	So what are they signaling to me with?
	Like, they're not going to be like, right, I'm going to wear a pink umbrella or something, and then he'll know I'm a zia.
	You know, it's like, that doesn't, that's not how it works.
	That's why they have to be so belligerent.
	Like, I'm going to aggressively make you call me this word.
	It's like, well, call you whatever the hell I like.
	In the same way, I call everyone else whatever the hell I like.
	It's not how it works.
	But anyway.
	Ah, yeah, registration closed.
	Try again.
	Right.
	Okay, well, I guess they must have had a fair number of sign-ups recently.
	So I guess at a later date, try signing up.
	You know, if it's not open now, then it's not open now.
	But I mean, so far I've been using it and I've been enjoying it.
	It just feels like Twitter, just with a different paint job, which is fine, really.
	Gender doesn't exist.
	Also, gender activists.
	Let me tell you how a man trying hard to present as a woman is heckin' valid as one.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They ultimately aim to destroy the concept of gender.
	Yes, they do.
	And that's in doing so, they also destroy the concept of race, which is probably not going to be very favorable to those people who use race as a means of accruing power.
	Those people who say black lives matter, if black no longer exists, then they're down to being all lives matter activists, which I hear is racist.
	I mean, what does racist mean if we've got no races?
	You know, God, the future's looking bright, isn't it?
	Oh man, that H3H3, thank God.
	I just can't understand why anyone's impressed by it.
	Like, or any other side, like, Crowder didn't cover himself in glory either.
	I don't know why Crowder didn't just debate Sam Cedar.
	I don't know why he looks so nervous because, I mean, Sam Cedar seems like an idiot.
	I've watched a bunch of his podcasts, and they're really boring.
	And he's got a total one-track mind.
	And so just drill down on the issue until you get to a point where you just have a fundamental disagreement with the facts.
	And you say, okay, well, we can't go any further on this subject because I disagree with you on this.
	You're not willing to concede or look at the evidence from my point of view.
	I'm looked at yours and I don't think it's valid, blah, blah, blah.
	And he could have just had it in his hand, I think.
	You know, I think he could have done all right.
	But, but of course, you know, Ethan, like, the argument I saw in his defense was, well, everyone knows Ethan Klein's a scumbag.
	It's like, oh, okay.
	Or why would he debate Crowder?
	Ian Klein is just a scumbag on the internet.
	It's like, yeah, but he's also a political scumbag.
	He sits there on Twitter, authoring political tweets all day, talking from a particular point of view that has widespread ramifications.
	Why wouldn't he debate it?
	Or doesn't he have the courage of his convictions?
	Which, of course, nobody thinks that he does.
	But it's weird.
	It's like, well, yeah, he's just scum.
	No one should trust him.
	Weird flex.
	Yeah, I mean, I don't care about Sam Cedar at all.
	Here in line with the Kinket Pride thing, why is it that the left sees anything before birth as not alive, but as a child, as an adult, and in every way able to transition, consent, etc.?
	Well, the answer is that it's arbitrary.
	There is nothing that you can point to that is objective in the left's view of abortion and consent that has a firm line.
	And you can push them on it and they'll find themselves with no answer.
	I can't stand the left's current view on abortion, which is just wild.
	And as someone who has lost two children to miscarriages, I have to say, I'm not exactly thinking very positively about abortion these days.
	It's definitely not just the clump of cells.
	It's the sort of thing that should be remembered as the ending of a human life.
	And, you know, you can say, well, you're an atheist.
	Why do you think human lives are important?
	It's like, well, I'm not saying I have a fully fleshed out metaphysic to back that up.
	But I think that there is something beneficial.
	Even if we want to just be consequentialist about it, there is something beneficial if we actually do adopt the view that human life should be considered sacred.
	We actually get a lot of benefit out of this.
	I mean, it's one of the arguments the left is making about why black lives matter.
	Well, who cares?
	If lives aren't sacred, why should black lives be sacred?
	Why should white lives be sacred?
	Why should any lives be sacred?
	And we kind of return to sort of pre-Christian sort of Roman view of the world, where there are no rights and there's no inherent goodness in a human.
	It's just about power.
	It's just about what my tribe can do to your tribe, and then everything following that is just.
	I mean, one of the things you'll get, right?
	And so I've been reading Herodotus just for the fun of it recently.
	And I forgot all about this.
	It's so awful, right?
	When the Ionians revolt from the Persians, the Persians are the favourites, the darlings of the social justice warriors.
	Throughout history, they were considered to be more tolerant than the other nations around them.
	And in a way, they were, in a way.
	But they were also monstrous barbarians, like everyone was back then.
	I mean, for example, was it Miletus?
	The Ionian cities revolt.
	Miletus is taking the lead.
	The Persians come down with a massive army, led by like four generals.
	And the Miletians refuse to concede.
	And so they conquer Miletus, enslave all the men, castrate all the boys, and then rape all the women.
	It's not very progressive.
	It's not very tolerant and enlightened.
	But this is just something that happens commonly when you consider the other people to not really have moral value.
	And if the other people don't have moral value, you can do anything you want to them.
	I mean, the Persians were castrating tens of thousands of boys, and the progressives are like, yes.
	And, you know, raping and enslaving.
	And the progressives are like, well, you know, but okay.
	I mean, what's wrong with it?
	If there's nothing inherently bad about these actions, if there's not inherently morally just and valid about a human being, then what's wrong with what the Persians were doing there?
	You know?
	Castrated boys sound quite progressive.
	Yeah, they pretty much are, actually.
	But you are right.
	In the chat, someone points out, the left only care about power, and that's true.
	And really, the construction of the origin of rights is the issue.
	Andrew, I hope you're on Getter, man.
	I'm sure I've got you on Discord.
	Just send me a link to your Getter account on Discord for you.
	But yeah, no, the origin of the construction of rights, the construction of rights, is the very root and foundation of the problem that the right has with the left.
	And it's irreconcilable.
	The left believes that power constructs rights.
	And the right believes that rights are innate and are constructed by, well, we'll say inherited by their position as a mortal being.
	So constructed by God, or if you're an atheist, you believe that these been imbued into you by an evolutionary process, which strips it of the sacral nature.
	But still, I mean, it reflects reality.
	You know, I have the right to speak.
	I have the right to move.
	I have the right to act in certain ways.
	That is just the way things go.
	And so this is really where it all has to be talked about.
	But there's no getting to the root of it with the left.
	And you can't get them to understand why they're wrong.
	And the funny thing is, they've actually taken the fascist position on rights.
	Like, genuinely, this is the fascist.
	What they think.
	What do I think of destiny?
	I think destiny is a, he's probably my favorite content creator at the moment.
	Uh, he's, uh, He's become super right-wing, super reactionary.
	No, I'm joking.
	He hasn't obviously become right-wing and reactionary.
	No, no, Destiny's fine.
	I mean, he's still a neoliberal, so I still disagree with him on certain points regarding internationalism.
	But he makes very good arguments against the left.
	And he's very good at getting them to the table and getting them to talk about their actual views.
	And, you know, it sucks for them because he's currently destroying them.
	We don't have a right to speak in the UK.
	Well, that's true.
	That's true.
	Saying the N-word is a human right.
	Well, it is in America.
	What are my thoughts on 42?
	I like him a lot.
	I think he's very good.
	Hassan is not black.
	No, but he's not white either.
	He's a beta.
	Yeah, well, I mean, he's like 5'2.
	What do you expect?
	He's a lot.
	Honestly, Destiny is a lot better than most and he I if if destiny was what left-wingers were like I would be happy to deal with left-wingers on a daily basis As it is, I have to deal with left-wingers who are awful.
	My thoughts on Andrew Neal?
	Well, I guess I'll give you the money he gets back from his holiday.
	Like two weeks.
	I mean, he's in his 70s and he's under a lot of pressure, I suppose.
	But yeah, I don't know what Andrew Neal's gone on holiday for.
	You'd think he'd be out there, you know, you'd be energized, smashing it with GB News.
	I mean, GB News has been fine so far.
	You know, I like a lot of the presenters, you know, and I think a lot of the presenters are very good.
	Just want them to keep hammering it, you know, keep pushing.
	Did I think the new Lord of the Rings show will be R-rated and have scenes like Game of Thrones?
	Yeah, because it's being made by millennials, communists, who don't understand the point of Lord of the Rings.
	And they think that actually, if we make something sordid, then that makes it edgy.
	No one cares.
	Like, literally, the argument at the moment is whether children should be allowed to see naked, gay people spanking each other in public.
	Like, oh, we're going to put naked women in Lord of the Rings.
	Bitch, you know, this isn't the 90s.
	You know, like, if you think that's impressive, then, you know, sad.
	But what's also sad is that it really misses the point, right?
	So, like, Lord of the Rings, you can't make that progressive because everything about Lord of the Rings is particular.
	Everything about it is unique and has one place and one place only.
	And nothing else can fulfill that place.
	Nothing can be, you can't just say, right, we need a wizard.
	Oh, we'll exchange Gowandalf for Sauron.
	No, that doesn't work.
	Gandalf's position, his reason for operating in the world flow from Gandalf's character and only from Gandalf's character.
	Same with Sauron, same with Saaraman, same with the Hobbits and Aragon and all the rest.
	So all of these things are unique.
	They are irreplaceable.
	They cannot simply be universalized.
	And that means that this makes it essentially the most reactionary thing you'll ever see.
	It's deeply, deeply narrative-focused and oriented.
	And to express a certain form of human condition.
	And this is, again, very particular.
	It's not universal.
	Most people won't have the experience of Frodo, whether he should throw the ring into Mount Doom or not.
	Most people won't have that.
	And that's the point of the story is to give you an impression, an insight into the emotional pressures of being given an object of unbelievable, you know, priceless object that also contains within it the power to destroy everything around you.
	You know, and then being tempted by that thing.
	You don't know what it's going to be like.
	And it's something that most people don't know.
	You know, this is why George Washington and Cincinnatus are considered to be such legendary figures.
	They had the opportunity for absolute power and they gave it up.
	And that's what Tolkien is talking about with that story.
	The left do not understand this at all.
	They are going to try and bastardize it with progressivism.
	They're going to try and make it universal, interchangeable, industrial.
	It's basically like giving Lord of the Rings over to Sauron himself and saying, right, you make it.
	It's going to be shit.
	Why is Jermaine Greer still coming up in my chat?
	Gandalf the Black.
	Look, all I'm saying is, you know, Gandalf is no Anne Boleyn.
	Adding vulgar scenes to Lord of the Rings is desecration.
	That's exactly right.
	There is a sanctity when you have something like Lord of the Rings, a kind of aesthetic world, a bubble, a pocket universe that you would try.
	You've been given it by the author of it.
	And here it is.
	It is, as it is, perfect.
	This is how it should be.
	It's got a good structure.
	It's got characters.
	It's got a good purpose.
	It's got a good moral message behind it.
	There's no reason to tamper with any of this.
	And you're right.
	Bringing in things that are materialistic.
	Because what we're talking about is a kind of transcendental human spirit.
	It's about something that is always good in all times and all places to refuse absolute power.
	And it's one of the most difficult things a human being would ever be called upon to do.
	And what they want to do is make it about the sordid pleasures of the flesh.
	And it's like, no, that is desecration.
	That's actually desecration.
	And that's the problem with the orcs.
	They run around desecrating things.
	But I like looking, looking forward, looking forward to hearing the way that the orcs are actually the victims of circumstance.
	You get so worked up over little things.
	Wow.
	It's not that they're little.
	That's the thing.
	And it's the fact that people think they're little things that allows all of this to carry on.
	Because, I mean, at the moment, the American generals are currently like, yeah, we're woke and we're happy with it.
	We want to understand white rage.
	Don't criticize us.
	that's offensive.
	Just like, sorry, the little things are what allowed that to happen.
	And when that's happening, dude, it's over.
	It's over.
	Like, honestly.
	Tolkien would be a fascist today.
	No, I don't think he would be.
	He rejected fascism as being the foreign socialist invention that it is at the time.
	So I don't think he would be today.
	They've created the eye of Sauron with the oil pipeline leaking the fire in the water.
	Yeah, I've seen pictures.
	It looks pretty bad.
	Like Christ.
	Yeah, the orcs will be oppressed by the humans.
	That's exactly what it's going to be.
	And there's an inequality between humans and orcs.
	The American military is compromised.
	It appears to be.
	Right, I'm going to have to go because I've probably got to go do stuff with my children.
	Go for a bike ride or something.
	Take them to the shops.
	Buy them some sweets.
	Well, I don't know.
	Maybe I'll ban them from sugar.

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