May 2, 2019 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin
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| Right, uh Right, what's your name, sir? | |
| Oh, my name is Daniel, nice to meet you. | |
| Nice to meet you, Tay. | |
| Yeah, um, I just wanted to have a few questions and stuff, because uh, you know, um I was introduced to UKIP when I was younger, like too young. | |
| Thank you very much, sir. | |
| I was introduced to UKIP when I was quite young, you know, by my friend James. | |
| I don't want to point him out because I don't want to embarrass him. | |
| But I find it very interesting, and I agree with some of the points that you say, especially with freedom of speech. | |
| I heard that someone called Count Dakula. | |
| Dankula. | |
| Dankula. | |
| Mark Meeken is his actual name. | |
| Mark, sorry? | |
| Mark Meeken. | |
| Mark Meeken. | |
| He's a Scottish gentleman. | |
| Yeah, I thought. | |
| Oh, fair enough. | |
| Yeah, James was showing me him, and apparently he got arrested for just a joke he put up. | |
| That's correct. | |
| And I disagree with that, because a joke's nothing harmful about it. | |
| It's just maybe offending a few people. | |
| So yeah, and there was one coarse thing when I first came into UKIP. | |
| I was only 18 at the time. | |
| And I could vote. | |
| And I came up and had to vote between leaving the EU or staying. | |
| And I was a bit of a Muppet. | |
| I was asking the guy, hey guys, do you know where the move to leave the EU is? | |
| My mom was like, shh! | |
| So of course, I started to leave it. | |
| And then afterwards, after we won the election, then there was loads of things on the internet saying that, oh, Brexit lied. | |
| UKIP's lied and all this other stuff. | |
| So, you know, as I, of course, know about UKIP, it's very, very controversial. | |
| And loads of people hate it and spit on it. | |
| And, you know, I love getting into controversial subjects. | |
| You know, I'm a pro-life Christian myself, so you can't get any more controversial than that. | |
| Well, you're a bad person these days. | |
| You know that, right? | |
| I mean, it's not my view, but yeah. | |
| But yeah, so my question is, what is your opinion? | |
| Do you think the media are all lying about UKIP and stuff, especially when they're saying they've lied about certain things? | |
| Well, I know that the media lie a lot because I'm often the subject of these lies. | |
| And thank God I have a large YouTube channel on which I can put rebuttals that actually have the real info, you know, and the actual sources and citations so people can follow that up themselves and actually see what the lies were. | |
| And I think that I've helped show a lot of people that, look, they actually will lie to you if they think it's in their interests, you know. | |
| But actually, they don't tend to lie about UKIP very much when it comes to Brexit because UKIP didn't say run the bus that said put 350 million into our NHS or anything like that. | |
| That wasn't a UKIP initiative. | |
| And it was the Leave Means Leave campaign, which, again, I have to stress was a conservative-run campaign, conservative-funded campaign, and conservative-managed campaign. | |
| So that was actually, as far as I'm aware, that wasn't anything to do with UKIP. | |
| And it wasn't because UKIP wouldn't want to help. | |
| I think it was actually a case of sort of class bigotry on their part, where they kind of see UKIP as, well, I mean, they use the term far-right, which, I mean, as far as I can tell, that just means working class, which is a lot more accurate. | |
| And as soon as, you know, when they go, oh, UKIP's a far-right party, I mean, what does that mean? | |
| But as soon as you say UKIP is a working class party, well, that makes a lot more sense. | |
| You know, that seems a lot more accurate, doesn't it? | |
| It's a regular person's party. | |
| And I think that that's really the kind of way that these things are framed. | |
| But yeah, when it comes to that's the kind of lie I find that they tell, it's not so much they say that UKIP's lying about the way it approaches its anti-European Union activism or pro-Brexit activism because I don't think they do and I don't think they could get away with it, you know. | |
| But like when it comes to like the leave-mean leave stuff, well, that was conservative run. | |
| What can we do? | |
| Yeah, so yeah, so I definitely don't agree with far left. | |
| I've seen the stuff on the media and anything that the far left do seems to be really violent or aggressive or nasty and they just look like Muppets. | |
| They do. | |
| If anything, like, so of course, I but I didn't know that. | |
| So you see far right as working class, is that what you're saying? | |
| Well, I mean, if they thought that we were fascists or Nazis or something, then surely they would call us fascists and Nazis. | |
| Yeah, I heard that. | |
| I'm sure. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| Anna Subri did. | |
| And David Lammy as well. | |
| I mean, you know, if Jacob Rees Mog is a Nazi to David Lammy, then everyone is a Nazi to David Lammy. | |
| And I think that we can identify that the problem is David Lamy rather than everyone else, you know. | |
| And he is basically reflective of the Labour Party at this point. | |
| I mean, do you see any Labour Party MPs or activists contradicting him on that, saying, well, hang on a second, David? | |
| It's too far to call Jacob Rees Mog, you know, a traditional Conservative. | |
| It's too far to call him a Nazi. | |
| No, not one of them will speak up about it. | |
| So I think that's the problem with the Labour Party at the moment. | |
| But yeah, so I hope that answers the question. | |
| Yeah, it does. | |
| There's one more, but I want to be careful what I say. | |
| Your view on UKIP, what's your view on, for example, like migrants and things like that? | |
| Is migrants causing, you know, like, for example, more expensive for people like me to live in the UK, or is that? | |
| Yeah, indirectly and by degrees. | |
| And one way that I like to explain it is like each migrant makes things slightly more difficult for the one that came before them as well. | |
| But it's only by a very tiny number. | |
| But when you have 300,000 new migrants coming in, then that's a tiny number that's multiplied by a larger number. | |
| And so you end up with a much more significant problem, frankly. | |
| I mean, the Bank of England actually did a study that showed that mass migration is depressing working class wages in certain industries because it is. | |
| It's the industries in which the migrants themselves, like essentially unskilled labor, are competing with our working class people in the country already. | |
| And obviously, I mean, it's illogical to think that it wouldn't depress their wages. | |
| So, I mean, it's not the migrants' fault. | |
| Like I stress, it's not their fault. | |
| Of course, they would be, if offered an opportunity, they would be foolish not to take it. | |
| And because it's the government of the country saying, hey, our borders are open, come on in, they assume that nobody is on the other side of the argument. | |
| Why wouldn't they? | |
| They don't think that they're doing anything to the natives of the country because they're not. | |
| And that individual is not doing anything. | |
| So we can never point at a migrant and say, look, this is you. | |
| This is your problem. | |
| And that would be so tremendously unfair to do. | |
| But we can point at the government and say, look, you've got to stop letting so many people in. | |
| And I say this as the descendant of a migrant. | |
| My grandfather came from St. Helena, which is the island on which Napoleon was exiled when we finally beat him. | |
| You know, he was a migrant. | |
| He came here in the 60s. | |
| He experienced racism in the Oval when he was growing up. | |
| He ended up marrying an English woman. | |
| My dad was multiracial and he ended up suffering from racism and he fought with gangs and stuff like this. | |
| It's something that happened a long time ago. | |
| And we're not that country anymore. | |
| My dad is a UKIP supporter. | |
| He's a firm Brexit supporter, military man. | |
| It's not the same world. | |
| We've made a better world. | |
| We've made a better country. | |
| And I think it's worth us trying to just maintain what we have at the moment because it's good stuff that we've got going on. | |
| And we can be optimistic and positive and proud of what we are. | |
| Because we do have good people in this country. | |
| We have good institutions. | |
| We have good traditions. | |
| We have good reasons for being what we are. | |
| Because the British have always operated from principle first. | |
| A lot of other countries don't do this, but we are principle first. | |
| And we always have been, which is why everyone goes back to, well, in principle, I agree. | |
| And then they'll say, but Brexit's going to cost me money. | |
| And so it's like, look, I'm sorry, you can make the same argument about going to war with the Nazis. | |
| It's going to cost money and manpower. | |
| We can't do that. | |
| No, that's not the right way to go about things. | |
| You should be striving to realize the principle to its most perfect aspect. | |
| And that's the way I think we should run this country. | |
| Very well said. | |
| Thank you very much. | |
| And yes, and one more thing just quickly came on my mind. | |
| Do you think the media get into big trouble for lying? | |
| They will as soon as I have a meeting with my lawyer, yeah. | |
| Well, let's hope that gets going. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| Thank you. |
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