Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin - A Conversation about Sweden with En Arg Blatte Talar

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June 10, 2015 - Sargon of Akkad - Carl Benjamin

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A Conversation about Sweden with En Arg Blatte Talar

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	Hello, everyone.
	I'm having a conversation with a Swedish YouTuber called En Arg Blaktala.
	That's not correct, is it?
	Sort of blocky.
	An Ari Blatte Talar is the correct.
	Yeah, I can't get that.
	So do you want to explain your name to everyone?
	Right.
	Well, I'm an immigrant from Bosnia and I came to Sweden when I was five.
	My family fled the war during the 90s in the Balkans.
	There's something I've noticed as an immigrant growing up in Sweden.
	Have you ever seen that comedy bit that Chris Rock did on black people versus niggers?
	Maybe.
	I can't think of it off the top of my head.
	Well, he basically explained that there's a difference between the two.
	A black person is just an ordinary person.
	Think, for example, Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington.
	Those are black people.
	A nigger is someone like 50 cents.
	It's a person who takes pride in stupidity and who doesn't really want to go anywhere in life.
	And the nigger will often ridicule the black man for things like him speaking properly or getting an education and refraining from violence.
	I think I have seen this actually.
	They consider that to be like white, right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I have black friends in America who have actually told me that they've gotten shit from other black people for acting white, which basically means that they got shit for acting like decent human beings.
	Educated, smart, upwardly mobile.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And the same thing exists here in Sweden, except here there are certain immigrants who will give you shit because you speak proper Swedish, because you don't celebrate criminals and violence.
	Many immigrants would actually give you shit because you are too Swedish, as if it's nothing ugly to be Sweden.
	Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but I've paid a lot of attention to what goes on in Sweden from the outside.
	And this doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
	Sorry, dude.
	That's fucking insane.
	The interesting thing is that these aren't just like black immigrants.
	I mean, these are immigrants from Eastern European countries as well as Middle Eastern or African countries.
	And they come here, live in the so-called ghettos, and listen to a shitload of American hip-hop and watch a shitload of gangster movies like Scarface.
	And then they start foolishly believing that they are like black gangbangers living in Campton, which is ridiculous because a Swedish ghetto is luxury in comparison to an American ghetto.
	So they are basically wannabe niggers.
	And these type of immigrants we call blatar.
	So blat is another way of saying wannabe nigger.
	It's not about skin color, it's about that attitude.
	And the reason I call myself blat is irony.
	Right, okay.
	It is to ridicule this stupid idea in society of what an immigrant is supposed to be like, what he's supposed to look like, behave, and think.
	My artist name is basically a big fuck you to all these stupid immigrants who fool themselves into believing that they are victims of the Swedish white man.
	Sorry, this is hilarious.
	I don't know why I find this so funny.
	I'm trying to picture the Swedes victimizing someone.
	I just can't imagine it.
	So for conversational purposes, what would you like me to call you?
	You can call me Vukmir.
	Vukmir, right.
	I'll try and remember that.
	Okay, so do you want to tell everyone about the state of Sweden?
	Because I suspect that a lot of people watching this will probably have an impression about Sweden that's formed from the media that sort of leaks out from the outside.
	Because I mean, a lot of the things that we see seem, well, fucking ridiculous.
	Like, as far as we're aware, Sweden appears to be operating under, quote, a feminist foreign policy, which I'm sure Vladimir Putin is pissing his pants over.
	So, I mean, do you want to just explain to us what the hell's going on in Sweden?
	Well, the thing about Sweden is that it's what Tumblr would look like if it was a country.
	Isn't that bad, really?
	All of Sweden is shifted into a leftist direction.
	The word liberal, for example, has a completely different meaning here in Sweden compared to America.
	Yeah?
	Yeah, no, no, go.
	Sorry, go for it.
	Go for it.
	Well, in America, you're considered to be on the left side of politics if you're a liberal.
	In Sweden, you're considered to be on the right side.
	Or rather, the right side of the middle.
	So it's not far right-wing, but it's still right, you know.
	It's too right for comfort, is what they're saying.
	Exactly.
	And conservative ideas that are completely normal in other countries are here described as some kind of watered-down fascism.
	Can you give an example?
	Sorry, I don't mean to laugh at this, but this is it sounds like a parody.
	I understand that.
	It's completely fine.
	It sounds like a parody.
	So, yeah, can you give me an example of the fascism that Sweden objects to that is something prolific in other countries?
	All right.
	Well, I could explain the political situation and maybe we'll every political party in parliament, except for the Sweden Democrats, which, by the way, are the so-called fascist party of Sweden.
	Every political party are cultural relativists.
	They believe that all cultures are equal, that they are equally civilized.
	They are promoters for multiculturalism.
	They think it's racism to decrease immigration.
	The People Party are a right-wing party, and yet their slogan before the last election was yes to immigration, no to racism.
	As if the two are somehow possibly connected.
	Really?
	I look at the fascists like yes to immigration.
	No, that's not.
	I mean, no, sorry, Gohan.
	Sorry.
	And every big party.
	This is ridiculous.
	Sorry.
	I feel like I'm being made a fool of.
	This can't be true.
	Sorry, go on.
	Sorry.
	I don't mean to interrupt.
	Sorry.
	Every big party, except for the Sweden Democrats, more or less hate Swedish culture and the Swedish ethnicity.
	Friedrich Reinfeldt was the leader of the right-wing Conservative Party, and he was our former prime minister for eight years.
	He once said that Sweden belongs to the immigrants and not the ethnic population.
	Why would he say that, though?
	His reasoning was that it's what the immigrants make of Sweden, which is Sweden.
	What?
	I have no fucking idea what this guy is.
	I seriously think he's some kind of sociopath.
	I have an idea.
	In another interview, he said that every development of Swedish culture has happened thanks to outside influences and that Swedishness in its primary state is just barbarism, as if everything positive about Sweden is only thanks to immigration and that Swedes have only contributed with oppression and madness.
	Wow, that is, I mean, that it sounds like, I mean, you can always see that kind of opinion in the sort of more extreme left.
	But in most countries, it never sort of takes hold of the political establishment quite like that.
	I mean, if you had that in, I think in Britain, if one of the politicians said that, they would get ridiculed.
	There'd be outcry.
	How could you say that?
	Know that that's ridiculous.
	You know we're not saying that we're angels or anything, but you know that that's a ridiculous statement.
	To have it said without being challenged is, I mean, and was that, was that um, something that was accepted within Sweden?
	Was he, like you know, applauded or what?
	Well, the thing is, the only websites uh, that were addressing this in a critical way were the so-called Neo-nazi websites, which are, as you can guess, not Neo-nazis at all.
	Uh yeah, I didn't think for a second that they actually were.
	They're actually.
	There's this site called the Frejjateder and it's, I think they're uh, basically libertarian nationalists and that translates to right-wing extremists in Sweden.
	I mean, they're basically branded as a Nazi site because of that, because of their criticism towards the immigration policy.
	They addressed this whole thing in a critical way.
	But I didn't, you know, when I googled around for the, I wanted the source for the quote.
	You know, I couldn't find any article being critical about it and like like, the mainstream papers weren't.
	But if you look at, like Swedish Messenging boards there's, of course, there's a lot of people who think he's full of shit.
	Of course yeah, but the journalists aren't really that eager to question it.
	The, the establishment, seems to be um on his side, doesn't it?
	Yeah, because the thing is and this is um you, you've heard of Mona Saline, I guess?
	Um no, I don't think I have.
	Actually, she's our current organizer against terrorism and political extremism, right?
	Okay, she used to be the leader for the Social Democrats.
	Uh, she once said that immigrants have a culture and history and identity, but Swedish people don't.
	And uh, she offended for Swedish people.
	Um how, how can they say that she?
	She said that she has a hard time thinking of what Swedish culture is.
	She also said that Swedes have to be integrated into the so-called new Sweden, because the old Sweden isn't coming back.
	She has also said that there's too many white people in her party, that there aren't enough foreigners in the Social Democrats and that if two people who are equally qualified apply to a job where there are few immigrants, then the one named Muhammad should get the job.
	It should be a plus to be Non-swedish.
	Why?
	Why doesn't she just kill herself then?
	I wish she would.
	Seriously, I can't imagine um being filled with such self-loathing.
	I mean yeah, I mean that's, that's one that's actually pretty, pretty unique for Sweden, because I can't think of any other people on the entire planet where, where you hate yourself so much, basically where you're ashamed of your ethnicity to that degree, I mean, white man's guilt is like this stupid phenomenon that occurs everywhere, here and there, but of all the people who don't really deserve it yeah, I mean, where's the Swedish colonial empire?
	You know how many black slaves did Sweden transport across the Atlantic?
	I think the answer is zero.
	So what what?
	The Swedes, oh, Jesus Christ.
	All right.
	Okay, so how exactly do they begin to reconcile like the problems that Sweden's having because of this immigration?
	Because I've got a blog called the Swedenreport.org.
	I've been reading through it recently in preparation for this hangout.
	And holy shit.
	I mean, I'm already aware that Sweden has got the highest number of rapes per capita in Europe.
	Yeah.
	And I've seen some pretty outrageous things.
	I've seen one that was a news report that a bunch of Swedish people who follow my channel sent me.
	It was basically this, I think it was a Somalian guy had raped this woman, and the court let him off because he apparently didn't know any better.
	And I'm thinking, well, okay, ignorance of the law is now a defense, is it?
	Obviously, I don't think it should be.
	But, I mean, how do they reconcile that with their ideology?
	Are you speaking in general terms or just the rape?
	Well, specifically for the rape statistics, because they're very categorical.
	There are an excessive number of rapes in Sweden.
	It's probably due to the immigrant population.
	I mean, what do they say?
	Yeah, well, the thing is, it's not really, since we're not allowed to talk about it because it's racist, you know, basically two theories.
	Some say that it's because of the mass immigration from countries where you have a shitty view on women.
	Others say it's because Sweden is so progressive that they have a broader definition of rape, which includes more they take more consideration to the rape victims and make the rape victims feel more secure in Swedish society.
	So more people have the guts to report it, so to speak.
	Oh, right.
	So they think that in every other society, it's actually massively underreported.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Right.
	Or it's due to misogyny.
	The thing is, though, that, I mean, here's the thing.
	In Sweden, cultural relativism is the norm.
	So if you're a cultural relativist, then you're just going to say that no culture is better than anyone else and that every culture has rape and it's a problem.
	And no, it's not because of immigrants.
	I mean, that's basically the defense.
	There is no reasonable reconciliation here.
	They're just, you know, they're just in flat out denial.
	Right.
	Okay.
	That's scary.
	I haven't heard of that one with the Somalian, though, but I did hear of a case where a man... I think it was Somalian.
	I'm probably remembering it wrong.
	I'll...
	I'll look for it at some point.
	It was just one of those things that it was more the conclusion.
	It was, this person isn't familiar with Swedish law, therefore we're going to let them off.
	Well, you know, it won't surprise me because I've heard of another case where I think it was a Swede who raped a woman, and it turned out that she was a transsexual.
	And he was let off the hook because he didn't realize that she was a tranny.
	What?
	It was this huge scandal here that people got very pissed off about.
	And there's been like several cases like that where men are let off because, oh, I didn't realize I was raping her.
	I mean, she said no and she didn't really was that responsive, but I didn't think that she didn't want it.
	I mean, that kind of defense is acceptable here.
	So it's very possible.
	Oh my God.
	Okay, more surprising than I was expecting.
	Okay, so what's Sweden's economy like these days?
	The economy.
	Yeah.
	How's the Swedish economy doing?
	I'm not on that.
	What do you mean?
	Specific?
	Right.
	Okay.
	Then how about jihadists?
	Yeah.
	Would you like to tell Sweden's position on Islamic jihadists who go over to fight in Syria and then return?
	Oh boy.
	Well, recently there was these politicians in Stockholm, leftists, of course, who came up with a strategy against returning jihadists and extremism.
	The strategy was to give them jobs and therapy and housing.
	Right.
	So if you were someone who was unemployed and recently kicked out of your home, it would make sense for you to become a jihadist.
	That's, yeah, that's pretty much the criticism they've faced.
	Their excuse is that they're not the law enforcement agency.
	They're only working with the social aspects, you know, the welfare aspects.
	So they're not responsible for people who want to trial them, you know.
	Okay.
	Which doesn't make it any less retarded because a fucking strategy should include some kind of notion of how to de-radicalize these people.
	Or at least have some sort of punishment for...
	I mean, I don't know.
	I mean, I would have thought that being a terrorist is a crime.
	And I'm no expert, you know.
	I mean, I would have thought that being a terrorist and killing people, potentially killing people, would be a criminal act.
	In fact, I mean, I would have thought that defecting to ISIS to be a terrorist in the Middle East, I mean, it must be some variant on treason.
	So, yeah, here's the thing.
	It's not illegal to join a terrorist organization.
	Is it not?
	It's not illegal.
	Okay.
	I didn't know that.
	That's interesting.
	I read up and it seems that the only thing that the Swedish state of security police can do is to, if they suspect that you're a jihadist and that you're going to go abroad to fight for ISIS, they can give you a call.
	Ask you politely not to be a jihadist.
	they can ask you politely to come to a meeting to talk to them about the situation but the person doesn't even have to attend the meeting there's no like there's no like there's no compulsion Yeah, exactly.
	There's no compulsion.
	Okay.
	There are a few people who have suggested that we should make it like a law to see it as treason of the country.
	But of course, some will claim that that's racist.
	Yeah, that's probably neo-Nazi nationalist racist propaganda to suggest that people shouldn't join terrorist organizations intent on wiping out the Western world.
	Wow, okay.
	Okay, what else do you think that people should probably know about Sweden?
	Well, I mean, do you have, I've watched a few of your videos, but I'm not a big fan of subtitles because I normally watch videos while I'm working in the background.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't get to watch too many of them, really.
	But could you, I mean, do you have any insights into how this has come about?
	Well, I think that the problem is an institutional one.
	Our media in Sweden, our mass media, is very red in political colour.
	The two biggest papers are Aftonbladet and Expressen.
	These are on the left side of the political specter.
	Then we have Sweden's radio and Sweden's television, ESSER and SET.
	They are government-owned and are supposed to be these public, politically neutral news outlets.
	But the majority of people working there are Green Party members or Green Party voters and leftists.
	And this is so obvious by the way that they do their reports.
	Like, for instance, well, the media and the politicians basically lie to the people about immigration.
	They will claim that mass immigration is going to create a lot of profit in the long run when the people eventually get set up in Sweden and start working.
	But according to the Central Bureau of Statistics, after seven years, only half of immigrants have jobs.
	We have a problem with integration here.
	Recently, Sweden's television did a report about how hordes of well-educated refugees are coming in from Syria, you know, doctors and engineers and economists.
	Oh, really?
	Their news story basically painted this picture of how massive amounts of work competence and knowledge is flowing in through our immigration politics.
	But then this woman with a master's degree in economics by the name of Rebecca Uvell, she looked into it and discovered that they didn't just count refugees.
	They also counted Swedish students who had studied abroad and people who've moved to Sweden from other European countries or study.
	Okay, right, okay, that's not crazy.
	Yeah, so when she looked into the numbers and statistics, it turns out that only 10% of Syrians are well-educated with a university education that's longer than three years.
	So the reality is pretty far away from the picture that Sweden's television painted.
	And that's just a typical thing here in Sweden.
	These constant lies or half-truths that are shoved down the people's throats to make them think that mass immigration isn't taking its toll on the country.
	And now, what percentage of Sweden are immigrants, Swedes are immigrants these days?
	It's quite high, isn't it?
	Yeah, I can't remember the exact number, but I think it was...
	I've heard that it's around a third of the population.
	I've heard that it's around a third of the population.
	Well, the statistics, I think that the statistics only count people with the four.
	I mean, I think it was 20%, 10.
	That's still very, very high.
	It is very high.
	You know, in Malmö, it's a very big Swedish town in the South where Swedes are actually, they're technically a minority because little more than 50% of the population have a foreign background.
	At the same time, this is a town that Jewish people are running away from because they don't feel safe there anymore.
	It has a high amount of hate crimes against Jews.
	And it's not like Nazis.
	No, but we get a similar sort of thing in the UK, actually.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there are Jewish people leaving certain cities in the UK because they don't feel safe.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You can actually watch a news story about this on YouTube.
	It's called Anti-Semitism in Sweden, Uptra Gransking.
	It has English subtitles for those who want to check it out.
	Yeah, I mean, if you want to tweet me a link to it afterwards, I'll retweet it so everyone can see it.
	I can do that.
	I was surprised to see that they decided to do a story like that on it, actually, because it really isn't like the reporters to talk about this kind of stuff.
	There's this enormous fear in Sweden to contribute to racism.
	So therefore, they never openly criticize Muslims or immigrants who behave badly.
	Now, that's not surprising.
	Honestly, given what I know of Sweden, that seems to pretty much be the root of all of these problems.
	This kind of self-loathing of the natural Swedish identity, probably based presumably on skin color and ethnicity, and the lionization of foreign peoples who's, and like you say, the cultural royalists.
	And I don't think that all cultures are made equal.
	So, I mean, I'm looking at, say, Islam's treatment of women or of the criminal justice system and thinking, well, it's kind of barbaric.
	I don't like the idea of it being implemented in my country.
	And I'm sure that there are Swedish people in Sweden who feel the same way.
	And yet they feel that they can't criticize any of this because it would be racist.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because, you know, there's a huge gap between the Swedish people and the politicians and journalists.
	58% of the Swedish population now think that immigration is too large.
	And yet there is only one party who wants to decrease immigration, and that's the Sweden Democrats.
	Right, okay.
	I think it says a lot if there's only like one party out of eight who wants to decrease immigration.
	It's a lot about how far leftist ideas have influenced every aspect of society.
	I mean, it's absurd how both the red parties and the blue parties have the exact same view on Swedish culture and ethnicity and racism and immigration.
	The conservatives reason like the leftists.
	And that's a big reason why people vote for the Sweden Democrats.
	I imagine that the Sweden Democrats probably get called all sorts of names, don't they?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know what's funny?
	They used to call them Nazis and racists, you know, for a long time.
	And then they realized that they were only getting more popular and that isn't what they found.
	So then they started calling them neo-fascists.
	Oh, right.
	Okay.
	That'll change people's perceptions of them.
	Yeah.
	Like that's their solution to all these problems.
	Name-calling.
	Yeah, but that's something that I've noticed.
	I mean, I've been like, I personally consider myself a leftist.
	I do consider myself to be left-leaning.
	I do agree with certain social programs and all this sort of thing.
	But I think almost, you know, everything in moderation.
	And, you know, the extreme progressive left, in my opinion, have kind of divorced themselves from reality and become just gone on a sort of ideological mission to remake the world almost.
	And it really, and in the process, they're demonizing absolutely everything that doesn't conform to their worldview.
	And I find it really disturbing because I think it's this kind of attitude that has led to the, I wouldn't be surprised.
	I mean, I'm not an expert in Swedish politics or the mindset there, but it just seems like an outsider looking in, it's this kind of mindset.
	The, oh, you know, our ancestors used to be bad people.
	Okay, well, that means, you know, that everything about them must have been bad.
	And it's like, well, I mean, you know, you're applying your standards and values to people who lived hundreds of years ago who hadn't had a single thought like that.
	And no one else in the world had that thought.
	So, you know, it's not fair to apply those standards to those people.
	And so I really think that, sorry, I've kind of lost my thread here, but there's a great deal of guilt regarding it.
	And then it's sort of just it seems to me that the people on the very extreme progressive left have morally judged everyone else as not only inferior, but nefarious.
	They think that if you're not with them, then you must be deliberately choosing to be a bad person.
	And I see this a lot in American politics, how the left treats the right with absolute contempt.
	Nothing, I mean, the very phrase right wing has become an insult to sort of extreme left-wing progressives in America and in Britain, to be honest.
	And so it's just the very nature of their political position has been deemed as immoral in these people's eyes.
	And I wonder if it's similar sort of thing in Sweden.
	Yeah, it's probably worse in Sweden.
	Of course it is.
	What am I thinking?
	Well, yeah, I mean, there's this.
	I tend to say that the left is the new Catholic Church.
	Right?
	They're carrying the new Inquisition.
	They have this idea that they are the holy people with the right opinions and that everyone else is a heretic and needs to convert and repent.
	And just like the Catholic Church, they're all secretly a bunch of closet paedophiles.
	Because I mean, it's so obvious that these people are no better than everyone, anyone else.
	I mean, everyone who goes around with this, you know, fetish for proving how good and decent they are are the ones with the biggest skeletons in the closet.
	You know, there's actually a fucking hilarious example of that.
	There's this news site here in Sweden called Nihitesche Feda.
	It's a newspaper, basically means.
	And they're very, they're very red feminists.
	And they hired this guy who he once wrote an article about how, you know, pubs and bars should have one entire month where they ban men so that only women are allowed to go to the bar so that they aren't harassed and fondled and you know everything.
	He was trying to take this radical feminist, you know, white knight mangina approach to the whole thing, you know?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know.
	And then it turns out, thanks to one of the so-called neo-Nazi sites, they revealed that he had been sentenced for hitting a woman.
	He spit a hamburger in her face and slapped her.
	Right.
	And that was enough to.
	He had been sentenced for that several years ago.
	So, I mean, that's the insane amount of hypocrisy.
	We get a lot of that sort of thing when we're dealing with the extreme moralists on our side.
	I mean, I don't know whether you've been following the Gamergate controversy or not, but a lot of the people who we've been in opposition to, they're extremely progressive and they consider themselves to be part of a movement.
	And one of the things that I've noticed, I've been watching a lot of their interviews, all that sort of thing.
	And I've noticed a lot of them have said things like, they've just said it as throwaway sentences.
	But it's one of those consistent things that they've all said.
	It's something along the lines of, oh, well, we all used to be that sort of person who went on the internet and sent abuse to people.
	We all used to be the sort of person who went to something awful and then doxxed people and all this, just variations of that.
	And I'm sitting there thinking, I've never done that.
	What the fuck are you talking about?
	I've never done that.
	Why are you accusing me of something that you used to do?
	And so they're exactly as bad as they accuse everyone else of being.
	And it's fucking disgraceful.
	It's like they're trying to repent for past mistakes.
	Basically, I mean, there are quite a few and notorious ones who may well have been involved in things like pedophilia and stuff.
	And they're preaching on Twitter about how morally upright they are because they're progressive.
	And it's like you say, they're like the new Catholic Church.
	Using it almost as a way to sort of save their souls, you know, to kind of expunge the guilt that they've brought up already.
	There's also the factor that, you know, anti-racism and feminism has become like a tool to further your own career in society.
	It's become like this, you know, shield that you can use to, you know, kick your way forward in whatever field you're in, especially journalists make themselves guilty of this, but also politicians.
	It's very, you know, it's very shallow and empty and has no meaning anymore.
	And you can tell that a lot of people don't even know what the word racist or racism means, yet they throw it around like it's almost standard just to show how good they are.
	Yeah, and it's a lazy weapon, isn't it?
	You know, you can say, oh, you're racist.
	And it's like, okay, well, can you prove it?
	You know, or you're you hate women.
	It's like, okay, but you know, that doesn't change what I was saying.
	You know, you know, it doesn't change anything.
	You're just hoping that I will be shamed enough to stop talking.
	Yeah, and then that's a problem to me because, you know, most, a lot of people, they actually become shamed.
	They don't have the balls to question a person and force them to explain themselves.
	They just sort of go curl up in a corner and say, please leave me alone.
	It's very typical for Swedish people.
	I'd say that's part of the problem here in Sweden.
	On one hand, you have the institution which is corrupt because the entire population is having their reality filtered through leftist ideology, through the media.
	But on the other hand, they're also pussies.
	Swedish people are pussies.
	The only Swedes who have balls are the Nazis.
	And that's not really a good thing because they're not.
	Yeah, they're not really all that much help to the regular population, are they?
	No, they don't have that much support amongst the Swedish population.
	Honestly, it's a lot like that here, though.
	Nobody really wants to stand up to accusations of hating people based on their race or gender because it's a mucky business.
	That's the thing.
	Even if you are, you know, you're completely not guilty of all of these things.
	And I'm sure that almost everyone who is accused of these things isn't guilty of it.
	It's just messy.
	You can't really provide hard and fast proof that you're not what they claim you to be.
	You've got to sit there and you've got to defend.
	You've got to backpedal.
	And it obfuscates the issue.
	What you were talking about, you went in there with a clear point.
	This woman is corrupt because she took bribes or something like that.
	And I'm just making up an example.
	Well, that's your sexist.
	And that's why you're saying, no, no, no, no.
	I've got a very clear-cut issue here.
	And it's like, no, but you're sexist.
	Now you've got to prove to everyone else that you're not sexist.
	And it's a way of just making sure that you can't address the issue that they're trying to push.
	Yeah, it's a very cheap way of derailing the entire conversation into this trivial bit, actually.
	Absolutely.
	I mean, even if you were a racist or a sexist, that doesn't make you wrong.
	If you're talking about things that can be backed up by numbers or things that can be, if you're like, let's say you're a Nazi and you're talking about religion and you're an atheist, does that mean that everyone should believe in God?
	Just because Nazis are atheists, that atheism is bad?
	Absolutely.
	It's a false dichotomy.
	Even a Nazi can be accurate.
	Or even a racist, even a sexist, even a misogynist could be absolutely accurate if they're making a point that is correct.
	If they've got evidence and facts to back up what they're saying.
	Just them being what they are doesn't mean it's not true.
	I mean, there are, don't get me wrong, there are absolutely times where people who are racist or sexist make accusations that have no basis, and they're making them from a position of prejudice.
	But this, this, this is one thing that really pissed me off: they always, always take advantage of people's good intentions.
	That's the whole strategy is to take advantage of Paul's good intentions because nobody wants to think that they are on the side that is, you know, is against the victims, you know, because that's the problem.
	They always maneuver themselves to be the victims and use this to attack other people.
	I say it all the time.
	It drives me crazy.
	Yeah.
	You know, these people claiming to be the victims, attacking other people.
	It's like, yeah, victims don't attack people.
	You know?
	So just, you know, they are the ones who have been attacked, you fucking hypocrites.
	You know, I actually had an experience with the gaming journalist here in Sweden.
	Oh, go on.
	Because, well, I got into the whole Gamergate thing.
	And, you know, obviously I became pro-Gamergate.
	And I got contacted by Sweden's radio.
	They wanted to do an interview with me.
	And they said that they had a hard time finding people who wanted to, you know, do an interview and say that they are pro-Gamergates.
	And, you know, I wasn't surprised because you're painting pro-Gamergaters as rapists.
	Of course.
	So who the fuck wants to go on radio to say, I'm a rapist?
	They've declared that we're terrorists and all this sort of thing.
	And it's like, yeah.
	Sorry, go on.
	This actually leads me on to another point that I'll make in a bit, but carry on.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, well, I got interviewed by this guy and we talked for half an hour.
	And he basically the interview was fine.
	And what he cut together was fine.
	It represented my view pretty well.
	But then when he published the article, he printed this, you know, just flat out lie that I had harassed several women in the gaming industry.
	Oh, holy shit, really?
	Yeah.
	And it was like, what?
	That's fucking plural.
	Like, I haven't even talked.
	I've talked to one female gaming journalist.
	And sure, I was a bit obnoxious.
	You know what happened was that she did this completely retarded article about how PewDiePie is excluding women by joking like a doom.
	Yeah, I mean, it's the most ridiculous shit.
	I mean, the dumbest shit that was printed in mass media that entire year.
	Yeah.
	And I made a video where I basically, you know, I did some jokes, but I didn't cross the line.
	I just, you know, did some relevant criticism.
	I know, I totally understand where you're coming from.
	And that was considered to be harassment, was it?
	Well, no, the thing is that that video wasn't harassment.
	I mean, just.
	But after that, a while after that, I was like hanging out on Twitter and this thing popped up into my feed.
	And I saw that this female journalist that I was criticizing, she got offered a job by a big gaming magazine.
	And I was like, what the fuck is this?
	She wrote the dumbest shit article of the year and she gets fucking hired.
	Like that sort of irked me.
	So I made a comment to her.
	I wrote, whose dick did you suck to get that job?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm just joking.
	Level, the gaming magazine, are radical feminists.
	Of course, they look after their own.
	Of course they do.
	That was my comment.
	And she said later on, she said that I had harassed her both on YouTube and Twitter.
	Right.
	Okay.
	So that, but that was a categorical lie.
	I mean, that's obviously.
	Yeah, because I know it's, there's some, I mean, I trolled her, basically.
	That's not harassment.
	That's just, you know, throwing out an insult, being an asshole, sure, but it's not harassment.
	I mean, harassment is systematical, you know?
	No, no, absolutely, you know, totally.
	But she, you know, since there was like a hint to a small piece of.
	It's that you were being disrespectful, isn't it?
	Yeah, exactly.
	So she took advantage of that and painted this picture that I was like this big misogynist harasser who also did it on YouTube.
	Yeah, I actually had a similar experience with, I had a debate with a Jezebel.com quote-unquote journalist, and you're probably aware of what Jezebel.com is.
	Yeah.
	And about halfway through the conversation, we were talking about like, you know, harassment stuff.
	And she's like, well, you know, your Twitter feed's all harassment.
	I was like, really?
	Who am I harassing?
	And then she just went quiet.
	You know, I was like, point out to me where I'm harassing someone because obviously I don't think I'm harassing anyone.
	And she just went quiet.
	And it was just, okay, well, there we go.
	You know, if you're just going to say it and hope it sticks, you know, you're hoping I will just back down and go, oh, well, I don't want to be accused of harassment.
	I'm going to ask you to prove your claim for fuck's sake.
	But this is one of the things that I've noticed that they do, right?
	And this Gamergate was the big eye-opener with this.
	And I guess I kind of understand how the men's rights activists feel now.
	Because one thing I've noticed that they do is they lie and they lie big.
	They don't even have the decency to make a believable lie, in my opinion.
	And so they lie so earnestly and so magnificently that the average person, I think, is incredulous.
	They don't believe that anyone would lie at such a ridiculously large level about such a ridiculously extreme subject.
	Like, for example, the whole Gamergate is a movement of like, I don't know, 60,000 misogynist harassers.
	The idea is ridiculous.
	You know, the idea that 60,000 people from around the world were like, you know, I think, do we all hate women?
	We do all hate women, don't we?
	Yeah.
	Okay, great.
	What we're going to do is we're going to harass women constantly to get them out of gaming.
	That's what we're going to do.
	I mean, it just sounds stupid, you know, and yet that is the lie they have committed to to the point where, you know, like law and order were making a fucking episode about it.
	Oh, that was hilarious.
	Oh, my God.
	Fucking hilarious.
	That was like, wow.
	It strikes me as like conservative hysteria from the 90s.
	You know, it could well have been conservative hysteria.
	What's amazing about that episode is that they basically painted out Gamergate to be the Islamic State.
	Yeah.
	and just not just gaming either just gamers you know it's as terrorists who are like gonna and i love the way they were like taking on the the new york cops or whatever It's like, what do you fucking?
	Do you think gamers are going to die for their video games?
	But yeah, but this is the thing, the lie is so big.
	And now, so that's that is that is that exists now.
	You know, I mean, it's such nonsense, but that actually exists because of their unbelievable lies.
	And I think the average person really, it's hard for them to believe that there would be such brazen liars on such a scale.
	You know, they don't think themselves that they would ever lie anywhere near like that.
	So they, I think they find it hard to believe anyone else would.
	And I think that's one of the things that everyone needs to kind of point out when they can.
	It's like, look, these people are just magnificent liars.
	There's nothing they won't say.
	Because like I was, the person who interviewed me was, he was a part of like the government-owned, public, politically neutral, you know, that's their reputation.
	He's a part of that whole organization, that whole system.
	And he writes that I've harassed several women.
	Who's going to think critically about that?
	Exactly.
	Why wouldn't they believe him?
	I actually had a similar sort of event with the BBC here.
	It's, you know, publicly owned, considered to be very neutral press organization.
	And I had an interview with a BBC journalist, and I had presence of mind to record it because I didn't think for a second that I was going to get represented fairly.
	But to be fair to the guy, he didn't misrepresent what I was saying.
	It's just that in about half-hour news segment, I got 45 seconds to speak.
	And Zoe Quinn got the extra, you know, the rest of the 26, 27 minutes or so.
	And so, you know, what are people going to take away from that?
	They're going to hear Zoe Quinn going on about, oh, I'm such a victim.
	I'm just a victim of gamers.
	Here's my Patreon.
	And then, like, you know, 45 seconds of me going, yeah, but this isn't about journalism.
	She's not a journalist.
	You know, I don't want to talk about Zoe Quinn.
	I want to talk about actual journalists.
	Why aren't we talking about actual journalists?
	And then that was all I got.
	And it's just like, so it's not like it does really all that much to defend my case, I suppose.
	But at least they never claimed that I was harassing someone.
	So there's that.
	You had it a tad better there.
	I mean, I basically got outed as like this huge women-hating semi-rapist.
	And then this other fucking paper called Neues Gaiden, which is also pretty big media, wrote about me and described me as a homophobe, racist, and sex.
	Why would they do that?
	He claimed that people who have insights to this person's Twitter feed can contribute, can assure that he has these opinions.
	And I'm like, I use Twitter to troll shit.
	I rarely write something serious on Twitter.
	But I just love that the whole thing is an attempt at character assassination.
	That's the point.
	It's the lie.
	It's the constant lie.
	We're going to make the lie as big as we can.
	Is he a homophobe?
	Yeah, of course they're homophobia.
	He hates women.
	He fucking hates blacks.
	Fuck it.
	He is just a monster.
	It's just unrealistic.
	It's really fucking unrealistic.
	What's funny is that I didn't let it slide.
	I made like a video response to the whole thing.
	And when he said homophobic, racist, and whatever, I just, you know, to everything he said, I argued that, oh, homophobic.
	Well, I made this video where I talk about how I don't think homosexuality is a natural.
	I think facts should be able to adopt and blah, blah, blah.
	Obviously, not homophobic.
	Sexist, I made a video where I said that I love porn.
	I love porn stars.
	Women should be able to choose.
	They shouldn't be shamed for having sexuality.
	That's a feminist point of view.
	Racism, all I said is that Sweden should limit immigration so they could take better care of both Swedes and immigrants living in Sweden right now.
	Like nothing I said can be interpreted as racist.
	I pretty much raped him with logic.
	This is tomorrow's headline.
	Yeah, you're a rapist now.
	Yeah, but I mean, who's going to watch my fucking video?
	Yeah, exactly.
	I know how you feel there, man.
	I tell you.
	But yeah, it's crazy.
	I would never have the balls to do that.
	To just, you know, to just make up some shit.
	I just wouldn't have the balls to do that.
	Well, yeah, I mean, it's psychopath behavior, honestly.
	And, you know, I don't think it's, I read this, you know, Forbes.
	Forbes is a pretty good, it's a pretty legit site, right?
	Well, you would think so.
	I mean, it's got a good reputation.
	But sorry, yeah, what were you, what were you reading?
	Forbes did this thing.
	They had a list of the top 10 professions that psychopaths are attracted to.
	The first was number one was CEO.
	And I don't remember what place journalist had, but it was like five, perhaps on the list.
	It was on the list, though.
	Yeah, it was on the list.
	And I mean, I just, you know, I recognize this behavior.
	You know, when I was younger, I got bullied for being a homosexual, you know, which I wasn't.
	I just made out with some guys.
	I wasn't a fag or anything.
	It was just, you know, no, no, I wasn't a fag.
	I was never sucked a dick or anything.
	It was just like I had a reputation of being a fag.
	And I also had a reputation of being a Nazi because I had my black leather boots with the white laces.
	Right.
	So you're a gay Nazi woman-hating fag.
	Yeah, that was my reputation.
	Okay.
	When I grew up and I like start, you know, you're done with school, you grow up, you get into the whole adult world and you start making these YouTube videos.
	You notice that a fucking media act the same way.
	Yes.
	They just make shit up about people they don't like or people they don't know or don't understand.
	Yeah, and they don't care to either.
	They don't make any attempts.
	And the thing is, that's my problem with this.
	It's just such terrible journalism, you know?
	Just the whole thing is just a cluster fuck.
	Yeah, something I noticed when I was being interviewed by this guy, or after the whole experience, you know, when I thought about it, was that he already had this set narrative.
	Like, he already had this.
	I just brought this up.
	Sorry, go on.
	Yeah, he wanted to paint this image and he was just looking for the puzzles, you know, the pieces to fit in the puzzle.
	And I was one of those pieces.
	And it really doesn't matter what I would say in the interview, he would find a way to make it fit into his agenda anyway.
	So when you're being interviewed by a journalist, you're not doing it to be represented.
	You're doing it to be, you know, like a partner to their story, not your story.
	To confirm what they're trying to say.
	I had exactly the same issue with the BBC journalist.
	In fact, I was because I must have spoken to him for about 40 minutes or so.
	But the thing is, he obviously wasn't getting what he wanted.
	By the end of it, he basically asked me to sum up what I was saying in like a few sentences because he was looking for a soundbite.
	And I had exactly the same experience.
	He already had a narrative in his mind.
	I mean, he initially started talking about, you know, Zoe Quinn and these other developers.
	And I was just like, look, they're not journalists.
	You know, why would I want to talk about them?
	They're not journalists.
	I'm involved in a consumer revolt against corrupt journalism.
	Why are you bringing these people up?
	And he was just flabbergasted.
	He didn't know what to say.
	He was just like stuttering all the time because he had a narrative.
	He had been sold a narrative.
	That's the thing.
	He'd been absolutely sold a narrative.
	And he was trying to put that together.
	And it was exactly as you say.
	And I was, I mean, a lot of people who listened to the watch the video and listen to it were just like, oh my God, you took control of the conversation right away.
	And they said, well, that's because he didn't really know what he was talking about.
	He didn't know anything about this.
	He hadn't done any proper research.
	He was just looking for a soundbite.
	Yeah.
	It's, I mean, the media industry is an interesting.
	It's like a business.
	They just want to, you know, print out whatever sells, whatever's controversial, whatever's a catastrophe, a disaster.
	So they don't really have, they don't really do research.
	They don't really get into the different perspectives on the matter and everything.
	They just want to sell the victim.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I think that there's a lot of power in being a victim.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's what people want to read.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It absolutely is.
	I mean, I even, there's a games critic called Matty Bryce.
	And she works almost exclusively via Patreon, I think.
	So she's very much independent, but she's very, very popular with the sort of extreme progressive crowd in gaming.
	And I read through one of her articles a while ago, and it was literally about delineating who was a victim and who wasn't.
	And it was, it was a long article about this.
	And the impression I just came away with is it was very important to discern who was the victim in a situation because it was a position of importance.
	It was a prominent position.
	And you didn't want people who weren't really quote-unquote victims to be acting as the victim because they might be getting advantages that people who aren't victims shouldn't get.
	It's very bizarre.
	It's very bizarre.
	One of the things, I'll find it and tweet it for people so they can see it actually.
	But one of the things I found about it, it was just so frank about it, you know?
	It was just so open about, you know, oh, well, you know, we need to discern who exactly is the victim because they're the person we need to talk about.
	And it's like, well, can you not see how you're making being a victim a cool, fashionable, popular, appealing thing?
	You know?
	Yeah.
	And they have a victim fetish, right?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And they get very angry when you don't want to be their victim.
	Yes, they especially dislike women who don't like being victims.
	Oh, yeah.
	They're just brainwashed and everything, sluts.
	Or they're treating them like traitors, don't they?
	It's like.
	Yeah, you know, that's an extremely funny thing here about Sweden.
	The leftists and the immigrants, you know what they call you?
	They call people like me, Husplatte.
	It basically has the same meaning as.
	What do you mean house nigger?
	Yeah, the leftists call you a house nigger.
	This has happened to me.
	It has happened to a lot of immigrants who are liberals, I mean, on the right side of politics.
	Conservatives, liberals, perhaps critical to the immigration policy.
	They get called house niggers.
	And they're basically saying that you're a slave to the white man because you're not on the left side of politics.
	Because in their minds, right-wing politics hit the hardest against immigrants, blacks, and women, against minorities.
	So if you're an immigrant and you're on the right side, you're a race traitor, basically.
	I've got no doubt that they think the women who support the rights are the same.
	Oh, yeah.
	They want to be the slaves of men or something ridiculous.
	I've just tweeted that link out for anyone listening.
	It's called Trying to Unpack Victimhood.
	And it's an interesting examination of the social justice interpretation of being a victim.
	Very interesting.
	But yeah, sorry.
	Yeah, I find the philosophy very, very bizarre.
	And I've noticed that it's a lot of sort of things that feed into one another.
	Like, for example, I really fucking hate white knights.
	I really hate white knights because personally, I'm an egalitarian.
	So I think that everyone should be treated equally.
	Everyone should be treated as a competent, intelligent adult who can fight their own battles.
	So when I'm criticizing, say, a feminist online who said something ridiculous, like all men are rapists, I don't expect to have some fucking little pussy guy jumping in and going, oh, well, I'll fight the battle for you.
	I'm not talking to you.
	It wasn't your assertion.
	It was her assertion.
	Let her deal with it herself, you know.
	And so I really dislike white knights.
	But the whole thing is if they feel that they can protect a victim, then they can feel like, I don't know, big, strong men or something.
	I don't know.
	Well, I mean, it's the same thing there with this, you know, furthering of your own social career.
	They're basically doing it to get laid or to get approval.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	It's the most ridiculous shit because, you know, I've also aimed a lot of criticism.
	I call myself feminist.
	You know, I am a feminist.
	I think there needs to be a distinction, though, because I suspect you.
	I'm not the retarded kind of feminist.
	You're a second wave feminist, aren't you?
	Yeah, something like that.
	I mean, I'm not against porn.
	I'm not saying that all men are rapists, you know, that kind of shit.
	I've actually most of my videos, if not all of my videos, have only been criticism towards the feminist movement in Sweden because they're retards.
	They're morons.
	Yeah, they've gone crazy.
	They've gone.
	They've gone the entire meaning of equality.
	It's fucking ridiculous.
	And I can understand, you know, when someone says that feminists are morons, blah, blah, blah, I don't take it personally because I know exactly what they're talking about.
	Yeah, they're not talking about you.
	They're talking about the people who are disconnected from reality.
	They're the sort of people who look at facts and go, yeah, you know what?
	That's not very helpful to us.
	They're the sort of people who look at facts and go, well, that actually counteracts what we're trying to achieve.
	So, you know, I mean, one of the things that pisses me off is the rape statistic.
	In America, this is they're the constant number.
	One in five women on college campuses will be raped.
	And it's nonsense.
	It's absolutely nonsense.
	In fact, if you actually look at the statistic, it's something like 0.03 in five are raped on a college campus.
	And so if you actually, you know, give people the real statistic, they're like, so it's, it's less than, like, you know, it's less than a whole woman that gets raped on campuses for every five people.
	Okay.
	It's something like, you know, I don't know, three in a hundred thousand or something.
	I can't remember what it was.
	But it's a ridiculously known number.
	And in fact, it's a lot lower than the surrounding cities for these college campuses.
	And yet on these college campuses, you've got wave after wave of militant feminists going, oh, we live in a rape culture.
	Everyone's a rapist.
	And it's just like, it's just bizarre.
	You know, it's bizarre that it's allowed to be propagated.
	Yeah, Christina H. Summers questioned that, didn't she?
	I seem to recall, she did a video about how the rape statistics are flawed.
	They're not accurate and everything.
	And she was, wow, did she get a lot of shit for that?
	Why, what happened?
	She basically got, well, she did get a lot of shit for it for questioning for merely questioning the statistics and providing an alternative view.
	She got loads of criticism.
	I think she was being called a rape apologist and shit like that.
	Who are we talking about?
	Because that sounds a lot like what happened to Christina Hoff Summers.
	Well, yeah, yeah, Christina H. Summers.
	I said, that's what.
	That's the one.
	Sorry, yeah, I missed that.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, so we're talking about the same one.
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	I've seen them call her an anti-feminist and everything.
	And it's just like, wow, she's been a feminist since before you were born.
	The thing is, she's a liberal, right?
	isn't she a conservative she's she's democrat she's a she's democrat Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, because she's not as extremely left as these feminists are.
	Yeah.
	So that's why they hate her, because according to them, everyone who's a true feminist also needs to be on the extreme left side of the political specter, because otherwise you're just a fool.
	Well, that's the thing, isn't it?
	Well, I think what we're really looking at is almost like a civil war within the left.
	I think Gamergate is just another extension of that.
	It's a lot of people in the left who are listening to the extreme crazies.
	And they're like, look, that doesn't represent anyone else's worldviews.
	that's your own world views and it's crazy and you need to be honestly i think it's because it's i mean it's the the extreme progressives seem to be remarkably marxist I've seen a lot of their, I've read a lot of their work, and they have, they seem to be very Marxist, and it seems to be in opposition to the sort of choice feminism, which seems to be remarkably capitalist.
	You know, an individual can do as they please and that's empowering.
	Whereas the rest of the sort of extreme progressives seem to treat feminism and women particularly as a class who you can, you know, you can operate in favor of the patriarchy, which means you're working against the interests of women in their minds.
	I'm pretty sure that they think.
	And so they are in disagreement.
	That's why you've got these feminists who are against porn and who are against all that sort of thing.
	Yeah.
	So that's what I've discovered anyway, or what I think I've discovered.
	I mean, I'm not entirely certain, but I'm pretty sure that's...
	Yeah, I mean, you know, there's a feminist party in Sweden.
	They call themselves the Feminist Initiative, they call themselves.
	Jesus Christ, that sounds scary.
	Well, yeah, the thing is, they have like, they got in the last election, maybe 3% of the country's votes.
	That's very little.
	They didn't even make it into parliament.
	And still, I think I read somewhere the statistics that it was maybe nearly half or one-third of Swedish people call themselves feminists.
	So I think that says a lot in comparison to the vote results there.
	That a lot of, you know, they call themselves feminists, but they're not radical feminists like that party or like the progressives.
	They're not against porn.
	They don't think all men are rapists, that kind of shit.
	Just like equality and maybe I haven't discovered the term gelatar again.
	Yeah, I've noticed, I mean, I agree that I think most people are like that.
	You know, most people are, it's a rather moderate position to take and most people are kind of more comfortable with a sort of moderate position.
	But the thing is, I think that I have a real hard time getting these extreme leftist progressives to admit that they're Marxists.
	And I get the feeling that it's because they know that as soon as they say that they are, these people will realize that they are not on the same team.
	And that's, I really, I really think that that is one of the things that they protest against.
	I mean, my sister has a master's in gender studies.
	And she doesn't really like me anymore.
	She especially doesn't like what I do on my YouTube channel.
	Okay.
	She loathes it, in fact.
	What?
	What?
	That's wow, man.
	No unity there.
	No, no, no, no.
	She's very concerned.
	She thinks I'm a terrible person.
	It's awful.
	But I was having a conversation with her at Christmas where I was like, look, right, I've been reading up about this.
	So are you saying that you're a Marxist?
	And she wouldn't admit it.
	She wouldn't say that she was.
	And I was like, okay, well, what's wrong with that?
	You know, if that's, if that's, you know, what you're saying here, you are using Marxist class principles of class struggle to apply them to women as a class against men as a class, even though women and men aren't classes, blah, blah, blah.
	And she eventually, she got really emotionally worked up when I kind of forced her to, you know, declare herself.
	And she was like, yes, okay, I'm a Marxist.
	And I was like, okay, what was wrong with that?
	But all of a sudden, it was just, it was weird how she was afraid of having it out in the open like that.
	It's really bizarre.
	And then I've had the same sort of interaction with a bunch of feminists like from Daiger and stuff.
	And I've just been like, so you guys Marxists?
	And they're like, oh, he's talking about Marx.
	And I was like, well, no, I'm asking you.
	I'm not talking about anything.
	I'm just wondering why you're so scared of admitting it.
	Because I really think that when they admit it, they'll show themselves to be in a different faction to everyone else.
	But that's just me.
	I'm waffling a lot now.
	That's interesting.
	Like, they're afraid of admitting how extremely left they are.
	I think that's the case.
	I really think that's the case.
	I think it's something that people should look out for.
	Because I mean, I watch a lot of videos from like feminists on YouTube and stuff.
	And because, you know, I'm looking for stuff to take the piss out of.
	And there's this one guy, and he's kind of like, he seems like a really nice guy, but he's obviously a very, very feminist.
	And this guy called Dr. RandomCamp did a response to him.
	And the guy took it seriously, took it personally.
	He wasn't.
	Normally they would just dismiss what Dr. RandomCam says.
	They'd be like, oh, you're just a twat or whatever, an MRA, whatever.
	But this guy actually took it seriously.
	And then he made a follow-up video saying, oh, this, this, and this.
	And one of the things that he said in the video was that he had been introduced to a new term called egalitarianism.
	And he'd never heard of this before.
	And I'm thinking, well, that's really bizarre.
	You know, I can't imagine these people not being taught about that.
	But apparently this is the case.
	So yeah, I mean, I didn't even know about the term until one of my viewers informed me about it.
	I never heard about the word.
	I think most people don't really know what the word is, that it exists and what it means.
	Okay.
	You know, something I've noticed a lot is that I have I've seen people say that they're against feminism.
	And I understand what they mean.
	They're not saying they're against women's rights.
	They're saying that they're against politically correct feminism.
	Yeah, ideological feminism.
	Yeah, so the response that they get is that, oh, so you're against equality?
	Because in most people's minds, they have been brainwashed by the media to believe that feminism is simply about equality and that if you're against feminism, you're against...
	The thing is, feminism isn't simply about equality.
	It does have, you know, you have to consider the theory of patriarchy.
	That's the foundation of feminism.
	So, I mean, it's a different take on equality, so to speak.
	Yeah, I don't even know if I...
	I think equality is the wrong word.
	I think equity is the right word.
	I don't think...
	Because equality...
	I think most people, when they say equality, they're talking about equality of opportunity.
	So, you know, everyone should be able to go for the job interview and the best person gets it.
	Yeah.
	Whereas I think what they're talking about is equity, whereas everyone goes, it's not about everyone gets to go to the job interview.
	It's that the end result has to be, you know, a certain number in each category.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a huge thing here in Sweden.
	Actually, the leading party, the Social Democrats, recently came, they voted through the decision to all the big stock market boards, all the big, you know, fancy boards for companies and shit, have to need a 50-50 quota of women and men.
	Right.
	See, now that, weren't they going to dissolve the companies that didn't do that or something?
	What are you saying?
	I heard about that.
	And wasn't that like the punishment to dissolve the companies that weren't going to do that?
	I don't know.
	I didn't look into that detail.
	I just know that they're going to implement a thing to force people to hire women.
	And I think that's just fucking weird.
	Like, that's not equality to me.
	I mean, equality is having equal opportunity, not 50-50 everything.
	That's weird.
	Absolutely.
	There's nothing, well, there's nothing egalitarian about that at all, is there?
	It's absolutely, well, that's exactly it.
	It's about equity.
	It's about equality of outcome rather than equality of opportunity.
	And I think that this, again, is kind of the Marxism showing.
	And I really find it disturbing because it opens itself.
	It's this sort of philosophy that opens itself to all sorts of depredations on people who don't need help.
	You know, it's the people who don't need this end up getting kind of well, they're the oppressors, you know, effectively.
	They become the oppressors because these people, I mean, one thing I really get sick of hearing is how white men are so privileged.
	And I just think, well, okay, what privileges do white men have?
	I mean, white men don't get given anything for free.
	The only privilege white men have is not being given anything for free.
	So if you want something, you have to fucking earn it.
	You know, you have to build the skills.
	There are no quotas for white men.
	Whereas, you know, if it for, so if you want to be, if you want to be a successful white man, you have got to bust your ass to be a successful one.
	You have to know your skills.
	You have to work very, very hard.
	Results matter for white men.
	Whereas for women, for non-white people in our societies, they get quotas, they get, you know, lifts, you know, they get advantages to progress them.
	And that's not forcing them to do the hard work that white men have to do.
	Especially, I really don't think that white men get as many advantages as these feminists think anyway.
	Yeah, they're basically declaring women and blacks as retards.
	Like saying that they're they shouldn't be held up to the same standards.
	And yeah, I think the people who are in those high positions work their answers.
	So unless it's a family thing, you know, where you just hire your son because he's your son and it's still a fuck-up.
	I mean, that's not earning anything.
	But, you know, in a lot of cases, you work to get where you're at.
	Yeah, it's.
	I don't know.
	There are so many different angles to this giant clusterfuck, man.
	Yeah.
	There really are.
	It's, you know, it really pissed me off.
	But it's really not as simple as just having, you know, 50-50 black women, men, white.
	It's like, for instance, recently I read a news here in Sweden that I think it was the police somewhere had to pay a fine to several men because they were denied or were women when they applied, even though they had better test scores.
	And I mean, that's just that's when this whole equality talk gets kind of dangerous.
	Like when you have an important job, like police officers or firemen fire women.
	Or something like construction or something like that.
	Yeah, I mean, when it comes to those things, competence equals safety.
	Yes.
	So who gives a shit about equality?
	I mean, the most important thing is that people are safe.
	More to the point, like, you know, since when did someone's genitals or skin color affect their quality of work when it came to, say, you know, building a building?
	You know, the important thing is the skills and the knowledge and the ability to make the building safe.
	You know, the gender is irrelevant.
	Yeah.
	And if the, I mean, I'm sure I'm sure that women could be as good as men, but then they have to work as hard.
	And if they don't work as hard, they shouldn't be given the chance because they haven't reached the demands.
	It should be that simple, but it's not that simple.
	I mean, especially in Sweden, there's a lot of talk about equity.
	Well, I mean, what's their plan then?
	I mean, it's like, okay, so we've got a job, we're going to have 50% men, 50% women, and then a woman quits.
	And they, okay, we'll hire another woman.
	And they can't find a woman.
	I mean, are they then obligated to fire a man?
	I mean, to what extent are they going to have to keep this equality?
	It becomes reductive and ridiculous.
	It would surprise me if they had even thought it through at all.
	It's fucking surprising that the social democrats are taking, you know, taking from the policy of feminist initiative.
	I mean, the social democrats aren't supposed to be this radical feminist party.
	So just that's fucking weird.
	I think he's just trying to.
	I think our prime minister is an ass licker who is just trying to, you know, gain as much votes as possible.
	He wants to come across as the good guy, the tolerant guy, you know.
	Try to appeal to everyone.
	Yeah, exactly.
	But I'm pretty sure he's just an asshole.
	Yeah, I'm not surprised.
	I mean, at least in our country, our prime minister isn't trying to appeal to everyone.
	He's being an asshole to a lot of people.
	You know, at least he's open about being a cock.
	He's all there are poor people over there.
	Fuck them.
	It's like, okay, well, I mean, at least we know who you stand.
	Yeah, I mean, I'd rather have an enemy that you know is an enemy than someone who's trying to pretend to be your friend.
	Exactly.
	You know, at least he's honest about it.
	It's a small mercy, but fuck it.
	But, okay, so do you want to tell us some more about Sweden?
	Because there's this, you know, I have a funny story in mind that pretty much says it's all about Sweden.
	Great, okay.
	It's called the Helsubrookjet, the greeting quarrel.
	The story is that a Muslim immigrant was given an internship at the integration unit.
	It's where you work with immigrants and refugees to help them get set up in Sweden.
	When he arrived, he refused to shake hands with his boss because she's a woman.
	He said that his religion forbids it and that he can't shake hands with women without washing his hands afterwards.
	She told him that he has to be able to shake hands with women because when you work there, you meet all kinds of immigrants and shaking hands is customary when it comes to greeting.
	He has to be able to receive everyone.
	So he got offended and reported her to the Board of Discrimination.
	He claimed that he was being oppressed by not being allowed to practice his religion.
	And before his case was even tried, the town politicians paid him 30,000 Swedish crowns to drop the charges.
	That's about $3,500.
	Yeah.
	And that's how scared the Swedish politicians are.
	Is this real?
	This is real.
	Oh, I thought this was a parable or an allegory or something.
	No, it's real.
	Oh, okay.
	Fortunately, it happened.
	They even had, you know, in Sweden, we have a thing called SCT debut.
	It's like a debate show that's held weekly and they talk about current events.
	And this got on that show.
	It got sort of big news.
	The funny thing is that the feminist party and all the Swedish Twitter feminists who always scream loudly about sexism didn't say a lot of them.
	They do everywhere, don't they?
	Yeah, they didn't say a word about this.
	They were nowhere to be found.
	The only people who had a problem with this was the Sweden Democrats.
	And you know, actually, there was an Imam on the show, you know, a Muslim preacher.
	And even he thought it was fucking ridiculous.
	Like, even he said that, okay, this is ridiculous.
	You gotta, you gotta respect people.
	You know, you gotta, when in Rome, you gotta respect people's culture and not be an asshole.
	I just, I'm just thinking, like, okay, if someone were to incentivize me to the tune of like three and a half thousand dollars to refuse a handshake, if that's all I had to do and then say, look, I'm offended, and I got three and a half thousand dollars, I would probably be milking the Swedish state right now, like a fucking cow.
	I would never work again.
	I'd just be perpetually offended.
	Oh, I think we might have discovered the origins of social justice warriors.
	Well, yeah, I mean, people are being rewarded for being offended, basically.
	Yeah, yeah, it's being supported by appearing in the media by giving all these grants and shit.
	I mean, in fact, there's organizations in Sweden who get funding from the state to talk about how racist and how oppressed they are.
	Honestly, it really does sound like the Catholic Church, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	You know what's funny is that there's this federation in Sweden called Afro-Swedes Union or something like that.
	Okay, go on.
	They, oh, it's amazing.
	You know, the head of the organization wrote an article in Expressen where he basically complained about this bakery who made cakes of brown people.
	They had like this bakery had different, three different kinds of cakes: one white face, one brown face, one black face.
	Right.
	Okay.
	And he considered that to be racist because it expresses colonial cannibalism or something like that.
	Oh, fucking.
	And I mean, that they would even publish this kind of shit in like the biggest newspaper is beyond me.
	And this dude gets several thousands of crowns for having his federation that talks about racism in Sweden, you know, racist structures.
	Like anti-racism is a fucking business here.
	Yeah, it's an industry, isn't it?
	That's the thing.
	Yeah.
	And then we've got people with vested financial interests in it.
	They're just going to push it.
	They're going to push it as much as they can until they've effectively taken over society and are, well, wealthy as fuck.
	Yeah, they're going to be the new Wall Street assholes.
	No, no, absolutely.
	It literally sounds like the Catholic Church.
	It really does.
	You know, because one of the things, I mean, in the Middle Ages in Europe, the Catholic Church was one of the most wealthy institutions in the world.
	It was insanely rich.
	And one of the reoccurring themes that you see in a lot of the heresies against the Catholic Church is the meme of sort of abject poverty.
	The heretics, or at least the sort of heretic priests, go around barefooted, draped in sackcloth and ashes, going around being the devout Christians that Jesus was saying that everyone should be.
	When then you've got the Catholic priests who are dressed up in their finery in giant cathedrals saying, oh, yeah, we really represent Christ.
	You know, there's a reason that they had to call crusades on the south of France because people just didn't buy it.
	And it's the same sort of fucking thing.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	I mean, it's got to arrive at a point where they've got so much power they can't claim to be oppressed.
	You know, that's that because that's what's happening.
	They're accumulating loads of power and you know by claiming that they're oppressed.
	And it's okay, well, you this can't go on forever.
	You know, so eventually we're going to reach some kind of equal point, I hope.
	I guess, I mean, one of the things, I mean, the thing is, I mean, have you got any ideas for how this can be rolled back?
	That's the question, I think.
	Roll back?
	What does that mean?
	Just, you know, how any of this can be undone or prevented or kind of just stopped.
	You know, just well, I think it has a lot to do with the general population.
	I think that every individual needs to grow a set of balls and just challenge bullshit whenever they see it and just not buy into the shit.
	Because, you know, the reason the media writes about the shit is because it sells.
	So don't give them the finance, don't give them the financial shit.
	Don't read their shit.
	Don't buy their shit.
	Just, you know.
	Mock it.
	Because it's like, it's very much like Gamergate.
	I mean, if people were to make these Social justice warriors games, like if they were if people were to make games like social justice warriors want to, Nobody will buy the shit because it's just about tolerance and nothing about story or you know any kind of substance, and they're they're just gonna die out.
	You know, because it's all about business.
	You know, the video games, as well as media, is about whatever sells.
	So that's instantly one of the things that they, the social justice warriors, complain about the most is that economically, they're not making any money.
	No one's buying this and they, they're getting a lot of.
	It's an interesting economy.
	They've got, in fact um yeah, you've got um, you've got a certain like cabal of game developers and uh, journalists.
	The journalists get paid from their publications, which is fine, you know it's.
	It's not a great wage, but it's obviously livable.
	And then you've got, and that they then use patreon to support various developers and I, I don't even know how to scrub, maybe like um, cultural touchstones in the community.
	You know people who have got like cultural influence in the community and these they they they, they keep these people funded via patreon and some of the most important people in this community who the cultural touchstones are like, they're the victims, you know they're.
	They're the Brianna Woos, the Zoe Quinns, the Randy Harpers um, and Each Sarkeesian doesn't use patreon, but she does have direct donations on feminist frequency and whenever she gets a death threat, her donations increase by, you know, tens of thousands.
	I mean because she's a um, a public funded company.
	Uh, you can, you can have a look at her finances and all through the year she makes, you know, a pittance, an absolute pittance.
	And then, after a threat, in like, say october last year, she got a death threat at um, at the University OF UTAH or something or one of the Utah universities, and she made about three hundred thousand dollars after that threat.
	I'm not even kidding, 300 000.
	Most of the year's money for her charity, quote unquote was made after that threat.
	And it's just like I mean you can't tell me that it's not incentivized.
	You know, that's the thing.
	And so, and it's with the people on Patreon, they're actually the small fry, you know they.
	They don't make anywhere near as much money as an East Sarkeesian does.
	She's, she's a real professional when it comes to making money out of this.
	And but yeah, and that's the thing that these sort of people like form this kind of interesting economy and if you look at their Patreon pages it's, I mean, you can, you can guess the sort of people who's don't, who are donating to their patreons.
	It's um skinny sort of white or fat, beta sort of guys who, who are yeah, exactly you know who who now have to support the poor victim in perpetuity on patreon, or they're very terrible people um, and it's, it's an interesting economy and all obviously.
	All these guys obviously work various tech jobs.
	So um yes, it's a it's strange world man.
	Well, I think one solution also is, um, the media is a business.
	Right, there are, there is alternative media, and that's a big thing here in Sweden uh, the traditional media is declining in Popularity and people are turning to alternative media, because alternative media has the balls to take up these issues that mainstream media doesn't have the balls to.
	And it's very funny because you know the mainstream media has always been this extreme leftist politically correct assholes.
	You can't say that you can't criticize immigration.
	And now, just lately, they've started to publish more anti-PC articles because they are realizing that it's what's profit.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's what people are interested in.
	So it's all about what buys.
	And if you want to, you know, fight against the media, then you need to establish your own media and just drive them out of business through competition, like a true libertarian.
	That's a good idea.
	I mean, I think the issue, I think the issue I would take with them, I think there's definitely merit to establishing your own media.
	I mean, hell, that's why I've got my own YouTube channel.
	You know, that's one of the reasons I did it.
	But I think I would be surprised, and I'm just thinking of like British papers, but I would be surprised to see them promoting anti-feminist opinions.
	And again, I say anti-feminist being anti-ideological feminism rather than any kind of anti-equality because nobody is anti-equality.
	I literally don't know a single person who's against the idea of equality, equality of opportunity.
	I can't imagine that anyone in this day and age holds such an opinion.
	But I can't ever see like The Guardian or The Independent saying, look at this crazy feminist, aren't they being crazy?
	But, you know, I know from personal experience that you get a lot of hits from that.
	So I can see that I would be surprised at them doing it.
	And it's because of, you know, ideological bias.
	You know, it's because these people are died-in-the-wall feminists and they're never going to do it.
	So I think they'll probably end up shrinking.
	You know, I think using the free market against them is definitely the best way to strike back initially, at least.
	Exactly.
	That's it.
	And one thing, I mean, a big reason I think why my videos are somewhat popular in Sweden is because it's an alternative.
	It's an alternative from the mainstream.
	So that's why YouTube is so great.
	You can go on YouTube and find that alternative that suits you more.
	Yeah, and there's very little that the media can do about it.
	Unless they DCMA your videos, which has happened to me, but it's okay.
	I'll fight it.
	Okay.
	All right, then I suppose we'll probably wrap it up about that then.
	Oh, yeah, let me just.
	Can I share one last funny thing?
	Please.
	Well, nationalism in Sweden is pretty much considered to be racism.
	The only way nationalism is acceptable is if you're proud of Sweden because of its so-called humanitarian immigration policy.
	There actually are some leftists who would say that they're proud of Sweden for that.
	But if you say that you are a nationalist because of a different reason, because you love your country, you want to preserve its culture and don't want open borders immigration, then you're deemed a racist.
	Of course.
	Before Sweden's National Day, just some days ago, Aftenblad published a text written by a woman who is a social democrat.
	She's from Syria.
	And it was this rant about how tough it was for her to be granted asylum.
	It took several months and they were going to deport her at first, but then she appealed the decision and was eventually given asylum, which then turned into a permanent residence and then eventually into a citizenship.
	And when she officially became a Swedish citizen on paper, she got invited to a welcoming ceremony.
	And she writes in her text that it was such a mockery to her because of how tough it was to be given a citizenship.
	So the headline for her text is: I want an apology, not a ceremony.
	And her point with the article seems to be that Sweden should indiscriminately accept anyone who seeks asylum without even investigating who they are or making any kind of identity checks.
	Because she wrote things like, it was so humiliating to have my teeth x-rayed to determine my age.
	But there's a shitload of people coming here claiming to be child refugees from war.
	But then you look at the pictures of them in the news story, and they're obviously 25-year-old men.
	I mean, it's fucking ridiculous.
	And she wrote things like, Congratulations for what?
	Congrats for not being one of the thousands of refugees that Sweden forces back to dangerous countries every year.
	It's like, shit, this is the number one country in Europe that accepts the most immigrants in relation to its population.
	And you're going to try and guilt trip us for not accepting immigrants willingly enough.
	Yeah, I mean, that's so fucking crazy.
	And that's just how the mainstream media is.
	I mean, that they would even publish something like that before the National Day.
	That's that's a spit in the face, you know.
	That's the thing, isn't it?
	It's very much a gender-driven.
	You know, how dare you not just accept what I say?
	This is very much a listen and believe sort of attitude.
	Yeah.
	Oh, God, I really can't stand that whole attitude.
	I really think you've given, I think you've been handed a pretty good image of Sweden as a country now.
	Right.
	Well, I hate to say that it confirms a lot of the things that I already thought, but it really confirms a lot of the things I already thought.
	It's worrying.
	I mean, because I mean, a lot of people, I've seen a lot of articles that suggest that Sweden's going to end up as a third world country at the rate it's going.
	Do you think there's any accuracy to that?
	I've not looked into it well enough, but I think there's, I don't think Sweden is ever going to turn out like Africa.
	But yeah, it's not headed towards a good direction, but it's not a catastrophe either.
	I mean, the Sweden Democrats are getting more popular than ever.
	So I definitely think that at some point the immigration policy is going to straighten out.
	Fingers crossed me.
	Yeah, it's interesting.
	There's this economist in Sweden called Tino Sanandai.
	He's actually celebrated outside of Sweden for his economic expertise.
	But in Sweden, he's labeled as a house nigger and doesn't even get a voice in society.
	But he did an interview for this.
	It was in English.
	And he said that he doesn't think it's ever going to crash.
	It's just going to be on a bad level all the time.
	It's never going to crash completely.
	It's just going to get bad and stay bad.
	Yeah, I wasn't thinking necessarily crash.
	I was thinking slowly ground away.
	So it just sinks and sinks and sinks, is what I think the predictions are.
	Yeah, it's going to constantly keep sinking, but never really reach the level of Africa, perhaps.
	Yeah, no, I don't think it's ever going to necessarily be.
	I think there's probably a lot of hyperbole when they say third world nation, but compared to the First world European democracy that it was, developed democracy that was.
	I mean, I don't know anything about Swedish economics, the Swedish economy or anything like that, but I mean, these articles do make quite a convincing case that the numbers and the sort of trajectory Sweden's on can't really continue without some severe consequences in the future.
	So, you know, I can see why it'd be worrisome to people.
	Yeah, and that's why people are an increasing number of people are voting for the Sweden Democrats.
	Well, that's what sort of percentage is that?
	Do you estimate?
	In the last election, Sweden Democrats got 12.9%.
	And what did the winning party get?
	I don't remember.
	2013, I don't remember.
	Something like the Sweden Democrats are the third biggest party in Sweden.
	Even among immigrants, I must add, which is pretty fucking hilarious.
	No, well, you say that, right?
	But I used to live above an Indian restaurant.
	And one of the things that the owner of this Indian restaurant hated was immigrants.
	He was an Indian chap, obviously, because he'd come over in the 70s and he had had to work very hard and he'd had to, you know, achieve all sorts of criteria to be able to come over and live in the country.
	And now he's looking at all of these immigrants who just let him for free.
	You know, there's no particular rhyme or reason to it.
	And he's frustrated because he had to work hard to achieve what he's achieved.
	And he's resentful of them.
	Why should you be allowed in?
	It's actually, you know, it's funny because I read the article that addressed this increase in Sweden Democrats' popularity.
	They interviewed an immigrant who was a Sweden Democrat and he said it was the exact same thing there.
	He had come here during the 70s and he was a hard worker.
	And he just resented the idea that we should take in as many people as possible when there's no housing or no finance for it.
	It reflects my view.
	He said that we should, of course, we should take in people who flee war.
	But if we can't afford it, then no.
	And that's basically the situation here.
	Well, again, I don't think that's unreasonable.
	I wouldn't be advocating to stop immigration altogether, but I definitely think that unskilled immigration isn't necessary generally.
	And there's very little reason for it.
	You could get unskilled work in the country that you came from or the country that you're going to.
	It's not like there aren't going to be unskilled workers in either country.
	So it's not really a necessary thing, is it?
	Yeah, and another thing here in Sweden is that the migration board is pretty corrupt.
	It's just fucked up.
	I mean, they give people who seek asylum, you know, asylum seekers.
	They have residence permits in other countries already.
	They already have asylum in other countries, yet they are allowed to stay in Sweden.
	We have cases like that, and cases where people are giving asylum even if they don't have any papers and even if they tell the same story as someone else.
	One of the things about international asylum laws that I think I'm aware of, now I might be wrong, but I think I recall being told this at some point is that the asylum rules are that you need to go to the nearest country that is away from the war zone, so there's no danger.
	So basically, that means that Britain should never receive any asylum seekers because obviously France and Germany and whatnot would always be closer.
	And yet we still do.
	I get the feeling that there's probably quite a lot of shuffling that goes on in these countries and kind of pushing to, you know, oh, why don't you go there?
	You know, it's but there we go.
	I mean, who wants to deal with loads of asylum seekers, I suppose?
	But yeah, so I imagine there's quite a lot of reform needed there as well.
	Oh, yeah, I mean, the biggest problem is that you're not even allowed to talk about it.
	You see, now that that's actually my biggest issue with a lot of these things as well, because, I mean, I can't imagine telling someone they're not allowed to talk about a subject.
	I can't imagine doing that.
	I can't imagine thinking that I personally have the authority, no matter what my job was, to tell someone they couldn't talk about something.
	Even if I was a fucking prime minister or something or the president or whatever, I can't imagine telling someone you're not allowed to talk about that.
	Yeah, because, I mean, I sort of automatically feel that everything should be analyzed with facts in consideration and just openly discussed.
	Exactly.
	I don't understand how that could turn into a catastrophe.
	Rather, I think the catastrophe, they don't even discuss the facts.
	Exactly.
	That's exactly the problem we're having.
	If you put your head in the sand and decide, you know what, we've all come to a consensus, so everyone else is just wrong.
	Yeah, it really is, you know.
	And yeah, what's the worst that can happen if we discuss the facts?
	Well, I don't know.
	I mean, we might be fully informed on the situation.
	It's supposed to be ideological, again, you know.
	Yeah, it is ideological because, you know, the worst thing that could happen in Sweden is that the Sweden Democrats gain popularity because they have been saying this shit for years.
	Yeah.
	So all of the other parties and the mass media have something to lose on it because they'll appear as morons, basically.
	So it's a pride thing, really, and that's fucked up.
	Yeah, it absolutely is.
	Absolutely is.
	But what a surprise, basically.
	And that's the thing.
	All of this has come about by other people's good intentions, you know?
	And it's amazing how fucked up things can get if you ignore the truth of the matter.
	There we go.
	Anyway, thanks very much for joining me.
	I really appreciate it.
	It's very interesting because I don't actually find many people from within Sweden who are eloquent public speakers in English and can explain to people the sort of thing that I think they should know.
	So thanks a lot for joining, man.
	I really appreciate it.
	Thanks.
	It was an honor.
	I'm a fan of your channel and everything.
	Oh, thanks very much.
	I think it's been really fun as well.
	I've really enjoyed it.
	And yeah, I'll probably get you on again at some point, if that's okay.
	Yeah, that would be really nice.
	I feel it's very important that people outside of Sweden are informed because it feels also like there needs to be some kind of pressure from the outside to change things here because Swedish people are in the bubble, you know.
	Yeah, I kind of got that feeling.
	And I think there's a lot of feeling outside of Sweden in Europe that Sweden's kind of the canary in the coal mine.
	You know, we're kind of watching what's happening in Sweden and going, wow, that's some crazy shit.
	Yeah, that's, I mean, that's everybody.
	Even our neighboring countries like Norway and Denmark and Finland are watching us and thinking we're fucking crazy.
	I mean, they have the immigration policy that the terrible Nazi party are trying to get in Sweden.
	So, I mean, the view on what is normal is just so distorted.
	Well, I totally agree.
	And one of the things that I, you know, you say that you've only got a feminist party that got like 3% of the votes.
	And, you know, that's kind of heartening that they got quite a low vote.
	I mean, the way I'm thinking of it is that in Britain, we've recently had Sandy Toxvig, I think is her name, was a comedian, and she's recently formed a feminist political party in Britain.
	I mean, I don't think it's going to take, but it's one of those, it's quite clearly something that's come from Scandinavia.
	And it's just like looking at it thinking, oh, fucking hell, no, that's all right.
	It wasn't your fault.
	You know, but it's something that, you know, after paying attention to Sweden, I can spot this in advance.
	There we go.
	Here's a warning sign.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's pretty much it.
	But yeah, so thanks again, man.
	It's been a real pleasure.
	And I'll get you on again.
	Sure, sure.
	And thanks to everyone listening.

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