South Carolina Republicans seek a June 17th special session to redraw maps for 2028, aiming to unseat Jim Clyburn despite Senate opposition. Guests debate gerrymandering's efficacy amid claims that the Congressional Black Caucus wields undue power through DEI budgets, while conspiracy theories allege Big Tech figures like Mark Zuckerberg act as Chinese agents promoting surveillance. The discussion expands to Mississippi, Georgia, and Ohio delaying redistricting due to legal fears, contrasting with arguments that every seat matters for flipping the House. Ultimately, the episode frames the CCP as an enemy conducting biological and economic warfare, urging gold investments while highlighting the Thucydides trap in a potential Trump-Xi summit. [Automatically generated summary]
Breaking tonight, Georgia Governor Brian Kemp is bending to Donald Trump's will.
He just called state lawmakers back for a special session on June 17th to redraw their congressional map to advantage Republicans for the 2028 election.
Meanwhile, in South Carolina, a handful of Republican state senators have at least temporarily derailed an effort to carve up the district held by the state's only Democratic and only black Congressman, Jim Clyburn.
This was Senate Majority Leader Shane Massey just yesterday.
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If we're going to lose this radical idea of a nation conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.
If that's going to happen, Mr. President, by God, it's not going to be because I surrendered it.
Gerrymandering forces you to convince yourself that the voters are going to behave the same way they have in the past.
And what we have seen over the last few cycles.
Is that voters, Democrat, Republican, and Independent, are willing to try new things because of how terrible things are going in this country for them, especially low income folks.
And so you can't draw things expecting those voters to do the same things.
You can, but then what's going to happen in November may not be what you think.
And if you talk to experts on this, it's called dummy mandering, where you cut up things so much that at the end of the day, you have messed yourself up.
And there are a lot of these Republican states that have been gerrymandering for so long that that's where they're going to end up.
You talked about Kemp at the beginning, Alicia, and I just want to read something from the AJC that I thought was really interesting.
Kemp has ruled out changing the maps for this year's races, but Republicans are moving to act now while they are certain a GOP governor can sign the new districts into law.
Certain a GOP governor can sign the new districts into law.
That tells me that things in Georgia are looking well bluer than they did before, right?
Because otherwise they wouldn't be doing this, it seems.
It also reinforces, Simone, what is at the foundation of this, which is why it has been easier for Republicans to execute on some of this redistricting, which is.
They just have a lot more places where they have the trifecta and they understand the power of the trifecta.
They understand they need to have control of the state legislature.
They need to have the governor who is in place who can sign off on whatever it is the state legislature pushes through.
But to Eugene's point, there is a window of opportunity for them there that they now have to decide if they want to exploit.
And where we started this conversation, the potential risk, Simone, of their choosing to exploit it.
Fed into an algorithm to psychologically profile me, the square footage of the room is being calculated.
It's cradle to grave surveillance.
That's why big tech wants the data centers.
Now I know, as a public person, there's no way around it for me, so I don't try to do anything particularly cool to throw off the Algor, THE IA.
I'm, I am what I am, i'm spied on.
It's just the nature of the beast.
But big tech Mark Zuckerberg vaccine mandate funded the destruction of America, funded Black Lives Matter, funded illegal immigrants.
They hire infinite H 1Bs, and now they're telling you that if we don't beat China, then the bad guys China win.
But big tech are the bad guys.
Who is this we?
We were censored.
We couldn't share the link to Hunter by the laptop.
We were told, take the vaccine or you're going to lose your job and your livelihood.
Vaccine passports, dude, that's a dream under these data centers.
They will do cradle to the grave surveillance.
They will suck up.
Every picture, video you take of your kids, it will be harvested.
Every movement you make will all be stored.
Digital currency will be stored.
this is dystopian level stuff.
And that's why, because nothing I've said can be refuted, that's why Big Tech and Kevin O'Leary, you know, he went on Tucker and people are mad at Tucker.
I don't really care about that.
They're saying, well, this is a China talking point.
I'm China, dude.
I'm China.
Or Big Tech, which was funded by China.
Big Tech, which promotes social credit scores and censorship.
Big Tech, which wouldn't let us talk about COVID, which originated in China.
2026, that's Cerno laying it down and 100% correct.
One thing we do know is that Jensen Wong, glad he caught the plane, although he's a few minutes late running across the tarmac, he caught the plane in Alaska and it's been announced that we've sold, we've committed to sell all the chips just below the top.
This whole issue that's playing out in Beijing about, oh my God, we got a Sputnik moment, it's all about the Chinese.
Look at them over there, look at the business guys slobbering all over them.
Elon Musk is an agent of influence to the Chinese Communist Party, full stop.
Jensen Wong is an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party.
Jensen Wong said, well, the leaders over there want to have a win win, except no.
The Chinese Communist Party is our stone cold enemy, stone cold enemy, enemy of the Chinese people, enemy of American citizens, our country, all of it.
And Cerno is 100% correct.
Using messaging and the moronic meme generators are falling into the trap.
No, we will never concede that we should do.
anything to assist the Chinese Communist Party, including selling all this ability for them to be anywhere near competitive in artificial intelligence.
More about that later.
Let's get back to the practical side of this.
Alex DeGrasse, correct me if I'm wrong.
And while we're speaking, Alex, while you're here talking on the war room, we may actually have Governor McMasters in South Carolina call for a special.
Give us an update here, some breaking news coming out of South Carolina.
Yeah, so we're hearing that there should be any moment, probably hopefully while we're live here in the war room, that they'll be announcing a Special session that they'll have the votes to do.
Now, when they previously had the vote in South Carolina, it was a resolution.
They needed, I believe, two thirds.
And if they were to do the special session and go, it would just be like a bill format.
So they would just need a majority.
We feel confident that we've got the votes.
Obviously, it's a slog, but things are moving.
People are working hard.
The White House is out there working.
A lot of us, Caroline, Ryan, myself, everyone's hammering the phones and other posse is out there.
So, this is, and for the movement here, is nothing short of amazing because this thing is, you know, a week ago, no, a couple days ago, maybe, a couple days ago, yes, then a hard no.
Just take us through the ups and downs because there's been some real heroes in this, including that Governor McMaster, sir.
Well, I've got a lot of friends that work for her.
I don't know her personally, but she's out there hammering.
And I know she's got great people working for her.
I know I got a lot of friends in South Carolina and they're voters for her.
So, you know, a lot of people are excited about her race.
So that's great to see.
I think she may be leading.
I'm not sure it's a tight governor race.
But, you know, look, she was out there and I think she's moving votes.
And that's huge because this is the type, like, These moments, which we face many of these, Steve, you know, when you see people rise up and really move people and really, you know, move this movement forward, like that only happens so often.
Yeah, you know, I mean, really, the Congressional Black Caucus, the power base among this sort of I guess you know, DEI, I mean, they have a lot of money, I mean, even for corporations, Steve, because they kind of go and they shake down all these corporations and they, you know, they kind of have this DI budget.
I mean, really, it's a ton of money and power.
And you look at obviously, he totally anointed.
Joe Biden.
I mean, let's rewind back.
You had Buddha Judge coming out of Iowa.
You had all this happening, and things were all over the place.
And then it was like that one night, Steve.
Remember, you had Clyburn indoors, someone else dropped out.
Everything just kind of shifted.
And then, boom, Biden was the guy.
And then he became the cannon, and they obviously stole the election.
Buddha Judge, I think he won Iowa and was second in New Hampshire.
I mean, nobody's ever done that.
With Biden, he was fourth or fifth in Iowa and fourth or fifth in New Hampshire.
You had a guy on a roll.
Yet another guy that was finished, the old guy was finished.
They get to South Carolina, and Jim Clyburn essentially made the decision that black people would not get in back of a gay candidate on a national level.
They had to have somebody to take out Trump.
He knew Biden forever.
He literally shifted, put it on his shoulders, and changed the dynamic in the 2020 Democratic primary, did he not?
Yeah, I mean, it was a remarkable just show of the machinations of the Democrat Party, which is obviously a corrupt criminal enterprise when you look at it.
So, especially with everything coming out of Act Blue and obviously all these unconstitutional seats and the census and the illegals, it's unbelievable.
So, I mean, yeah, really.
What an insane thing.
And now that that will be gutted, it's huge.
I mean, you know, there, I mean, I just read the article.
I mean, I was just reading an article about how the Congressional Black Caucus is just getting decimated since they have all these unconstitutional seats.
And this is going to take them forever to recover.
I mean, you'll have to see essentially a new Democrat Party once we deal with the census.
And we play this out because we talk about those seven seats.
I mean, if we can hold the house, God willing, and pick up another seven or eight next time, too.
I mean, this stuff, and then you get rolled into the census.
So, what we're going to do is we're going to take a break.
We're going to come back and we're going to talk about six states and seven that we're leaving on the table.
And the question gets to be why are we leaving on the table?
Particularly, if they take the House by one seat, Hakeem Jeffries will run it like he's got a 30 seat majority.
This is trench warfare.
There are seven seats we are leaving on the table that are right there.
They are unconstitutional and can be changed.
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So, I mean, sometimes, Steve, it's not just totally, Cowards, but sometimes people are nervous about, you know, hey, if they roll this dice and they could, the whole thing could blow up.
So, okay, Georgia, the Kemp machine that's associated, that's affiliated with the Bush machine is very arrogantly, and of course, MSME sees a meltdown because he just called a special session or he called him back for a special session to pass it for 28.
But here we are, May.
Here we are, May.
We leave two on the table in Georgia, including two of the worst, sir.
You know, I'm not familiar exactly with those conversations with the White House, but certainly, I mean, like you said, Steve, it would be really horrible if we lost the majority by one seat.
And you look at someone like Brian Kemp, who would be responsible for obviously the partial destruction and possible incidents of the president.
I mean, certainly there's one on the table there, one on the table there.
And, you know, I'm being told by people in Louisiana that, hey, you know, they're giving me the reasoning of, hey, we stretched it, we could lose in court.
And they claim in Louisiana that they're going to push for the next one in 2028.
And then obviously Alabama is saying the same thing.
But we obviously want those now, but that's where we're at.
I mean, they mid-decade redistricted, and they only picked up, you know, people are claiming, and we think that you could have picked up another one in Missouri.
And certainly now you could argue that I think maybe that is an unconstitutional seat.
Obviously, when they did those maps, it was before the Supreme Court ruling in Ohio as well.
So I think, you know, honestly, every state should look, not just in the South, of course, where there's more, but I think they should look at this.
And, you know, I'm going to get with the guys and we're going to really look at, you know, the rest of the states.
And obviously, Democrats are talking about Maryland.
And Colorado, which are the newest ones, but I think that they're going to try to pick up one each across the board.
And I think they won't be successful there because in Maryland, we kind of control the Supreme Court, interestingly enough.
And I think if they try to take that Republican seat, we've always argued that we could go to court and we could win.
And then that would set in motion a sort of neutral court drawn seat.
And if you were to draw honest, fair seats in Maryland, you would actually have two Republican seats.
So it's actually already gerrymandered to make one.
Every seat, I mean, that's what you and I have been talking about for like four years, Steve.
Every seat matters.
Every seat, every little, I mean, every seat is going to be in the money that's going to be going into this midterm election.
It will be an unprecedented amount of money.
And it has been an unprecedented amount of money back to back to back in each election.
I mean, this stuff is getting crazy when you look at the numbers, you look at the dark money on both sides, obviously, and just everything that they're throwing at this.
I mean, the Democrats are throwing at this, you know, And Republicans have a ton of money, you know, to the credit of President Trump and his team.
And that's why if we could pivot, you know, just I sent over, you know, we have polling out that has us either tied or leading in five offensive seats, Steve, which is huge, up by 10 in Maine with LePage running in the middle.
It really doesn't start heating up until like August, July, maybe a little bit.
And then, you know, really Labor Day, but now there's voting.
So that's kind of moved up a bit because of all the early voting.
I mean, that's when you do like the big offensive.
That's when you're out there, you're hammering the negative ads are up, you're defining the Democrats.
In Congress, who all these guys are a disaster, lock, stock, and barrel, all these incumbents, you know, and all these quote unquote frontline seats.
And, you know, these guys haven't really been hit yet.
And they're about to get hit hard with all the money Republicans have.
And I think when you factor all that in, you factor in the fundamentals on the seat with that, you know, the margins that President Trump, many of this are territory that either President Trump won or lost by, you know, like within one or two points.
And you've got great candidates, great recruitment.
I mean, there's a lot of things going in the Republican direction, not just on the message and the fundamentals.
And then obviously the Democrat brand is never more.
So this is really not like 2018 at all.
In any sense, you've got in 2018, there were 30 toss ups.
Now you've got 19.
So that just stresses the importance of hey, every seat matters.
All these competitive seats are total knife fights can really hone in.
And the fact that we're already leading in about five of them on the offensive seats is huge because we can flip five plus the redistricting buffer plus our already three seat majority.
I mean, you get into really good territory where they might flip a few seats, but we'll hold them.
If we, if we, if we, if the people at the state level had gone all in on this and we, we theoretically take it, gotten the seven that are there for us to take, I want people to understand this.
This is just about political will and elbow grease.
We would be at 216 right now.
I mean, the House would basically, we would have held serve in the House in a year that people last fall in the first couple of months this year were talking on TV, oh, yeah, it's all historical and they're going to be 35 or 40 seats.
It's all crap.
When you break it down and actually see what I call the structural part, now we're going to be short of that.
But given the mosaic of the 19, and we're going to have some bad news between now and then, you're definitely going to have some of this inflation news.
You see with the wholesale inflation, and anybody spinning that away from you is not dealing with reality.
And here we have to deal with reality to win.
But this is going to be a game of inches, a game of hard fought inches.
But as you look today, and I'm going to hold you briefly through the break, as you look today, holding the house is not a pipe dream.
And you've got five seats that are in that toss up category, Steve, that as of like late April, we're already leading.
Way outside the margins in two of them.
I think up by 10 points in Maine, too.
You've got former Governor LePage leading that Democrat House candidate by 10 points.
And then you've got Washington, three Republican John Braun is leading Marie, I don't remember, glues pants, whatever, Perez.
She's a crazy woman.
He's up by like seven.
And then you've got North Carolina, one, New Mexico, two, Texas, 34 key seats.
And all of them are either up by one, tied within the margin.
You know, to be up that early in those seats before there's even ever been any advertising is frankly unprecedented in any election, any type of midterm or anything like that.
And so it only gets worse for them.
Of course, you know, there's outside factors, the election, any types of inflation, war, you know, other things that we can't control.
But what we can control is obviously defining the Democrats, getting people out to vote, getting our folks fired up.
And certainly we're in the game, and this could be this is huge.
I mean, if we break history here, I mean, that's it.
I mean, we'll be able to get more, you know, Tax cuts for working class and try to get more of the Trump agenda through because it will stop, obviously.
So, anyway, well, we'll also stop the madness of the impeachment of President Trump, uh, subpoenas everywhere, grinding the MAGA movement to a halt into the uh, into the Trump revolution.
And we're within striking distance now.
You take those five, you add them to the two nine we got, you're with really in striking distance with what 15 seats really in play.
It's going to be a grind, it's going to be a nasty, ugly grind.
But this audience is all down for that as you see what they've delivered.
In this redistricting fight, which is not, you know, it's not sexy.
It's not, it's not, it's not glorious or glamorous, right?
You just got to get down and do it.
And that's where this audience is best at.
Alex, to keep up with all you, Ren, and have become Bomber Command with Sean Spicer, where do people go for your Twitter feed?
They vote on Saturday, but right now it doesn't look like Ludlow, who's the endorsed Trump candidate, does not look like she'll win in the first round.
That's going to be the Zonghai Garden or Party Complex.
And that's where the Chai Combs do their business, it's where they work, it's the center of their party in Beijing.
And so at 11 30, so it'd be 11 30 our time because it's a 12 hour difference.
Trump and Xi will have a friendly photo shoot, and then they'll sit down for tea in the garden and then go for their working lunch at 12 15.
And that working lunch at 12 15, maybe that's when we'll see a breakthrough of, say, like a Jimmy Lai or something else that Trump can actually take home with him.
So usually they'll bring the president to the Great Wall of China, the Forbidden City.
We saw the, you know, as you said, the visit to the Temple of Heaven.
But this is sort of the holy of holies for the Chai comms.
And this is where the apartments are, this is where the staff is, and this is where it actually gets done.
And so I don't know if they, If they invited Trump to be there as a gesture, or maybe Trump asked himself, maybe somebody asked themselves to make it happen.
But it does speak to the importance of this visit.
And I would consider it a tribute to Trump to bring him in there in a visit that's been full of symbolic tributes, Steve.
It looks to me so far like it's been a lot of niceties, but not a lot of seriousness.
The president certainly is going to promote U.S. businesses, and he'll certainly hear the Chinese out when it comes to.
Whatever investments and trade they have in this country.
But I thought the line by General Secretary Xi about Taiwan and the Thucydides trap and the really overt threat against the United States, if we meddle at all in Taiwan, was a real affront to President Trump.
All niceties aside, you can have bans, you can have children screaming, but the overt threat is something that the Chinese communists are quite used to, and they kind of do it without thinking much about it.
And I think President Trump took it for what it was, but he himself, I think, is prepared to play hardball with them.
And again, all niceties aside, he's tough and he's, I think, willing to negotiate whatever it takes for America's interests.
We broke that down this morning, but to start off the conversations in the opening kind of salvo.
And mention Thucydides' trap because the implication there is that you're the former hegemon and now the declining power.
We're the rising power, as outlined in Destined for War by Graham Allison, the nuclear theorist, I guess the strategy guy with Henry Kissinger.
And then to very specifically say relations will be very good and we can have a win win and a partnership, and we should be partners, we shouldn't be even competitors.
If you don't let Taiwan take its natural course of reunification, there's going to be a problem.
And in the Thucydides trap, that means either massive regional or global conflict, does it not, sir?
He's trying to say if you leave us alone, there won't be war.
But of course, as we've highlighted on the show many times, we're already in a war with communist China.
COVID 19 was a bioweapons attack.
If that's not war, I'm not sure what is.
What I think President Trump needs to do is to make sure that he's clear that he understands this is war, that he understands that what the Chinese are doing to the United States is not only physical war in the case of COVID 19, but that they're engaged in political war against us and economic war against us.
And as I said last night, I don't think we'd be there if we didn't have a problem.
This is not really about going to see the sights in Beijing.
This is about sorting out some fundamental differences.
Between the United States and Communist China.
And this whole notion that the United States has to accommodate Communist China since they're the rising power or suffer war, it's too late for that.
They've already committed acts of war against us.
And we, the United States, are trying to work our way out of that and do so in a way that doesn't cause a worldwide war between the United States and the Russians and the Chinese or whoever the Chinese allies are.
This is a very delicate time in U.S. Chinese relations, to be sure.
Yeah, the president, when he came to power in 16, 17, did what no other president has ever done saying, We're not playing more games.
We're going to confront this problem.
We're going to confront it head on.
Because they had been at war with us for decade after decade after decade of what's called unrestricted warfare.
They then ratcheted up the COVID bioweapon, the intrusion in the 2020 election, which we now know.
Because of DNI and Tulsi Gabbard, there were 20 states where they went into the databases and tried to change them, or did change them in many regards, to thwart President Trump having a second term.
What we've seen with the, as you mentioned, the 200,000 military age males who are every bit as sharp and as focused as the troops you saw yesterday in Tiananmen Square greet the president, and he gave a review.
With Xi, and then they did a passing review.
So you look at item after item after item.
The reason it's ratcheted up is because Donald Trump's president of the United States and they realized that he was the guy that was coming to take care of business.
Do you think so?
Therefore, how could he miss that?
That must be pretty obvious to him, don't you think?
I mean, look, today the Chinese are still stealing American intellectual property.
You know, when President Trump came to office in the first administration, President Trump said that was $600 billion a year.
Billion with a B, and that they had done that for 10 years.
That was 10 trillion.
Even if they cut that in half somehow, and I don't think it's been cut in half, you know, that number today is 15 billion, 16, 17, you know, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, excuse me.
Get these numbers so big.
That's a lot of theft of American intellectual property.
How do we let that go?
Go by.
I mean, certainly the Elon Musks and the Jensen Wongs, they're happy to let it go by.
They're there, right, sir?
Don't worry about the theft of intellectual property.
We're more innovative and we'll catch up in the end.
But in reality, every day that goes by that we're not decoupling from communist China is a day where they're stealing more of what makes America great, which is the intellectual property we produce.
And so the president has to be alive to that.
And I certainly hope.
Parts of the administration that are with him are equally alive to that.
It's got tons of great information, including all those seminars they do all the time.
Neil McCabe, you're going to be back, and the night watchman at the White House is going to make sure that you've got at least a half hour with us at 10 o'clock tonight.
Where do people go in the interim to keep up with you, Neil?
So, we're going to have an entire crew like we had last night.
I think people really enjoyed the coverage.
We want to thank Real America's Voice, particularly our team in Denver that clocks in late to do this.
And, of course, our War Room team at 10 o'clock tonight.
We'll cover it again.
I think the coverage last night was pretty good.
Very impressive ceremony, and today I would be very surprised if they haven't worked overnight and are going to have some pre meetings that maybe we'll be able to report on.
So, a lot going on.
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