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May 2, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5342: Sharia Law Still Percolating In Texas; Proof They Did Gain Of Function Research In America

President Trump highlights March's 186,000 private jobs and tax cuts for seniors, while Colonel Keith Self and Nathan Pinkowski allege Epic City in Texas is a Sharia-driven money laundering scheme. They link immigration to wage suppression and criticize NATO, whereas Naomi Wolf presents evidence that Dr. Fauci funded illegal gain-of-function research in Maryland and Montana to weaponize coronaviruses. Ultimately, the episode connects domestic economic policies with alleged foreign policy failures and biological security threats. [Automatically generated summary]

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donald j trump
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nathan pinkoski
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steve bannon
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steve cortes
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keith self
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mike lindell
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naomi wolf
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Build Your Plant In Florida 00:11:34
donald j trump
You don't want to pay tariffs?
That's fine.
Build your plant here.
Build it in Florida.
I don't think of you too much as, you don't need the cars, but build it in Florida.
I'll be, any place in the United States is okay with me, but they're building them all over our country.
We added 186,000 private sector jobs in March.
Jobless claims just hit the lowest level since 1969.
Think of it, jobless claims.
So, since 1969.
The lowest level since 1969.
And more Americans are working today, as I said, than at any time.
In the history of our country, by far, it's not even close.
And with our no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, we're doing something that has never been done.
And the consumer, which is you, you have more money to spend than you have in many, many decades.
Very importantly, for our great seniors, we are I hate to mention this, it's so negative.
It's called the estate tax because nobody in this room will ever die.
But just in case you're If you have children that you love, it's very important.
If you don't love your children, then it doesn't matter too much.
Who cares?
Oh, I know some that won't leave their kids.
They hate their kids, but you know, these are bad people.
They're usually very wealthy, too.
I don't know what that's all about.
But we have no inheritance tax.
We have no death tax.
Who really affects the farmer, the small farmers, medium-sized farmers.
They're called land rich cash poor.
You know that beautiful land that's very valuable, but they don't make tremendous income.
And they die.
They leave it to their children.
Their children goes out to the local banker, borrows money to pay the tax because the tax was 50% and more.
And they end up losing their farm.
In many cases, they love their life.
They commit suicide.
It's a crazy thing.
They lose their whole life and they commit suicide.
There's no more of that.
So when you die, you leave your farm or your small business to your children.
You have no estate.
Tax, you have no debt tax.
I think that's a big deal.
I think to me that's a big deal, right?
Byron, that's a good one, right?
That's good.
You know, you want to lead your way of life, you don't want to be forced to sell your farm.
Sometimes you can't sell your farm for what they think it's worth, and you have nothing but trouble.
What a problem it was.
You don't have to worry about it anymore.
We made interest on new car loans tax deductible, but only if you buy a car that's Made in America, otherwise we couldn't care less.
That's a big deal.
So that you go out and you borrow money to buy a car, and you know, you paid interest, you didn't get it now, you get a deduction.
That's like 40, 50%.
It's like a phenomenal thing.
You get 100% deduction on interest.
So the interest payments that you make to the bank for the car loan, you're able to deduct that from income tax.
Now, it has to be made in America.
So go buy American cars or cars that are made in America.
And we also created.
The brand new Trump accounts, along with a really fantastic family, the Dell family.
Have you used their computers recently?
Susan and Michael Dell, they're amazing people.
He put up $6 billion, $250 million.
A lot of people said, I'm going to match him on the $250, but even the $250 is a lot.
Think of it.
He was the first one.
He bought $6 billion, $250 million of these accounts for children all over the country.
And it was just announced this morning that it's setting, literally, it's setting records so that, you know, when your beautiful baby, we have an automatic $1,000 contribution for every newborn child.
And it allows everyone to contribute to a tax-free savings account for your grandchildren.
A lot of people are buying it for their grandchildren to benefit them.
So that after they turn 18, they could have $100,000, $125, $150,000, depending on what goes on.
And they can be sort of rich.
And it's an amazing thing, and it's like a wildfire.
It's doing so great, right, Scott?
It's been really an amazing thing.
And with us today is a grandmother who lives in the villages named Mary Alice.
After a long time in the Mexican real estate and automobile industry, she and her husband retired to the villages.
And thanks to our great, big, beautiful bill, I love that bill.
You know, we have four years worth of stuff.
That's why we call it the great, big, beautiful bill.
We were going to have 19 separate bills.
And I said to Mike Johnson, John Thune, I said, fellas, Speaker of the House, head of the Senate, I said, let's try for one big, beautiful, because I don't know, these Democrats are crazy.
And it was early.
We had a little bit of a honeymoon, just a little tiny bit.
I said, let's see if we can get everything in one bill.
And everyone said, no way, you're not going to do it.
It's the greatest, it's the biggest thing ever passed in the history of our country.
The great, big, beautiful.
And it's mostly, it should be called the great, big, beautiful tax cut bill.
But also, we have.
Tremendous regulatory cuts, and that's why your jobs are so good because all of these people, small businesses, medium sized businesses, everything, they're able to take regulations with a little bit of a grain of salt.
It's not going to put you out of business.
They're tremendous regulation cuts, and it's really been amazing.
So they just received a tax refund of double the size of anything that they've ever gotten.
Think of this Mary Alice, for years she's gotten peanuts, and now she's gotten a tax of double the size.
And in many cases, four or five times the size of anything she ever got before.
So, Mary Alice is now considered a rich person.
Come on up, Mary Alice, say a few words.
unidentified
Come on up.
donald j trump
Oh, look at her.
She looks good.
She's a rich woman.
Wait, let me get this out.
You want me to get that out to you?
unidentified
Wait.
donald j trump
Oh, yeah, because I'm really sure.
I think you'll be good.
unidentified
Hi, everybody.
First of all, I would like to thank President Trump for everything he's done for all of us.
And the big, beautiful bill helped my husband and I so much this year.
We were so shocked when we picked up our tax return, and the accountant told us.
How much money we were getting back.
We were just thrilled.
It was double what we thought we would get.
We ended up using some of that money to pay for a new roof.
Now, we all know we live in Florida and we all need roofs.
So, we were able to use some of that money for the new roof, and we're thrilled that we were able to do that and we didn't deplete our savings account.
So.
And this is all because of the no tax on Social Security.
And, you know, we live on an income that's fixed.
And so we have to be careful how we spend our money.
And thanks to President Trump and his administration, we've been able to live a great life here in Florida.
So thank you, everyone.
Thank you, President.
Thank you.
Thank you, Dallas.
Be careful.
donald j trump
Grab that rail.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
That's better than I can do, I'll tell you right now.
No, it's a great story.
Thank you, Mary Alice.
You're really something special.
Thank you.
Congratulations.
But never forget, every single Democrat in Congress voted against no tax on Social Security.
They voted against it, every single one.
We didn't get one vote positive because they're just like a sick unit of people, just like the State of the Union speech.
I introduced people, the mother of somebody who was slaughtered by an illegal immigrant that came in.
They're slaughtered so horribly and please stand up.
And the mother stands up.
She's beside herself.
The Democrats are sitting here.
They didn't move.
They're just sitting here.
unidentified
No.
donald j trump
Just sitting here, long face.
The Republicans are going crazy there.
They're screaming and they love, you know, they love the woman that they wouldn't clap or the helicopter pilots that did so well in Venezuela, a great, incredible military achievement.
And he was shot in the legs putting bringing down a lot of men in the helicopters, a big Chinook, and he was shot in the legs.
And you operate those things with the legs more than anything else.
And he was very badly hit hard in the legs.
And he brought that helicopter down, and then he says, Take over because I'm going to be passing out now after it was perfectly landed in exactly the location they had to be.
Otherwise, we could have had a problem like Jimmy Carter had.
You remember that problem with helicopters crashing back and forth?
It was not good.
But that was Venezuela.
How good did that work out, right?
And we had.
We introduced him, handsome guy, beautiful looking guy.
We introduced him.
We gave him the Congressional Medal of Honor.
The first time it's ever been done in the State of the Union, we gave him the Congressional Medal of Honor.
And the Democrats sat there like a bunch of dead people.
They didn't move.
And I called them out.
I said, You people are crazy.
There's something wrong with you.
But they voted against income tax cuts for seniors.
They voted in favor of the largest tax hike in the history of our country.
They wanted.
The largest tax hike in the history of our country.
They also created the catastrophic inflation that I told you about, worst really in our history.
If congressional Democrats had their way, Florida seniors would be paying higher taxes, higher prices, while Republicans have given you much lower taxes, much lower prices.
You know, use the word affordability, but I was the one that received these high prices.
You know, it's amazing.
I come into office and I say, wow, look at how high these prices are.
And the Democrats start screaming, Affordability, affordability.
They're the ones that caused the problem.
I'll tell you one thing, they got one good line of bullshit.
That's one thing I'll say about it.
They are so bad.
They are so bad.
It's true.
unidentified
Affordability.
donald j trump
It's the first time I heard the word.
I'm two days in, and I watch his sleeves bag, one of these crazy congressmen, get up, and he's being interviewed.
He said, Affordability, prices are too high.
I've just got there.
But we brought prices way down.
They gave us tremendously high prices, and they'll give them to you again.
Halal Industry Political Control 00:15:49
donald j trump
They take over.
You have to get out and vote in the midterms because they'll give them to you again.
And we're pleased to be joined today by some of those great warriors from the House and Senate, including someone who is representing your great state really well.
And I introduced her just briefly before, but she's fantastic.
She's a great person, a great senator, Ashley Moody.
Thank you for being here, Austin.
Thank you, Ashley.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
The president is at Villages, he's doing his introduction.
Now, of local politicians, we'll pull back there in a minute once the president gets back on a roll.
And the president will be down, I think, in Mar Lago.
They're playing the PGA golf tournament at the Cadillac Invitational at his Trump Doral.
So, the president will be there this weekend also.
A lot going on.
I want to start with Colonel Keith Self, Congressman from Texas.
Also, Nathan Pinkowski from the Center for Renewing America.
Colonel, first off, I want to thank you.
For all your leadership in this effort, you're in the Sharia America Sharia Free Caucus in the House, but you've been one of the leaders in Texas of getting people focused on prohibiting Sharia law and this expansion, really, I'd say Islamic invasion of Texas.
A lot of folks thought this Epic City thing was put to bed.
I guess it's not.
Can you get us updated on current developments and your leadership in trying to combat this, sir?
keith self
Well, there's a judge down in Austin that has made a decision that they.
Texas Workforce Commission must relook the issue.
She didn't authorize construction, but she did authorize a relook into the contract.
And that's what they're using to get into American courts contract law.
But look, we have a project that was just released that says Epic in Plano, the Epic Mosque attached to Epic City, which is the 400 acre compound out in eastern Collin County, is basically a money laundering scheme.
The mosque is tax exempt, but the real estate company and the holding company are for profit entities.
One man has offices in all three of those.
That's kind of what we're looking at.
I've asked the federal government, the DOJ, and HUD to go ahead and do another investigation into tax law, civil rights law, financial law, and housing law.
Because I believe that they need to have their 501 stripped from them because it's a money laundering scheme.
All three entities work together to put money into the mosque and into this one man's pocket.
So that's where we stand today.
steve bannon
Colonel, can you just, I want to hit rewind for a second because this is a training exercise also for the Warren Posse.
Because I tell people when I saw this, the judge last night, and then, of course, Mike Howe, Had this, the oversight projects got this big analysis of Epic City.
The guys at CRA, the team over there has been amazing on Epic City.
These people are relentless.
They're not going away.
And I want you to explain to the audience when you say they're using contract law to get into the system and then we can't get them out, what do you mean by that?
keith self
Well, when they sign a contract and the ones we're dealing with, we're dealing with Epic City contracts.
And before we've dealt with marriage contracts because in America, a contract is sacrosanct.
And they can say that we're not violating American law.
We are using American law to, in the marriage case, the lady had signed an agreement that she got nothing.
She was left out in the cold.
In the contract law, it basically says you have permission to buy a lot, you have permission to sell it to a Muslim, you may get permission to build a house, but it's through contract law that people are signing that they are using to get into the American courts.
And the American courts are saying, yes.
Contracts in America are sacrosanct.
There is nothing religious about this.
It is contract law that they're using to get into the American courts.
steve bannon
One more time.
You're going to the Trump administration to specifically ask for what so that we can get this project terminated?
keith self
Well, as Mike Howell laid out, they made a pretty good case that this is a money laundering scheme.
All the money goes back into the mosque and it goes into one man's pocket, Imran Chaudhry.
So, they're all working together, and the non exempt entity is basically part of this money laundering scheme.
Therefore, their 501 should be repealed.
And then Epic City itself cannot sell only to Muslims.
So, that's where housing law, civil rights law comes into effect.
So, it's both the money laundering scheme and the contracts that violate federal law.
I'm simply asking the feds to do another investigation, giving the information that my cow revealed.
steve bannon
Colonel, I know you've got to bounce.
Can we get your social media so people can follow you on this?
You're one of the top leaders in the great state of Texas for combating this invasion.
So, where do people go?
keith self
Yeah, whatever the format is Rep Keith Self.
Rep Keith Self.
steve bannon
Colonel, thank you for doing this.
Appreciate you, sir.
keith self
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
It was Colonel Self that actually, about a year ago, it was in the summer at Patriot Mobile.
We had a big meeting of all the grassroots leaders, and he was very specific of what needed to be focused on, or we're going to lose Texas.
And that's why I keep saying Colonel Self, given his 20 or 30 years in the military in the U.S. Army dealing with this Islamic supremacy, Sharia supremacy is what we call it.
Nathan Pinkowski, CRA, you guys have been the team, Wade Miller, your team over there has been the Tip of the spear.
This Epic City, particularly what the judge ruled on, it shows you the arrogance of this group, and they're going to keep coming.
We just put a ballot measure that got almost 2 million votes with no money in the back of it to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas.
Yet Epic City and these other radical Muslim groups are not going to stop.
They're going to keep coming, sir.
nathan pinkoski
Exactly right.
This is what we need to understand there's a template here, there's a playbook, it's been used in other countries, and now it's coming.
Out here in the United States, we have to think of Islam less as a religion, but more as a project of political separatism, of sectarianism.
This is what the city is designed to do.
The congressman mentioned for you that the business side and the mosque are mixed together.
This is a typical strategy that is used to build an Islamic community.
Indeed, if there's anything that makes it even more dangerous than what we've seen in Western Europe, there's more money involved here.
In Western Europe, For a long time, the Muslim communities were very poor and had to rely on foreign funding to support that.
Whereas in our case, we're seeing some much more wealthy communities that are able to launch these kinds of projects and advance them very quickly.
And we have to think of it too this isn't a project to retreat into the countryside, it's not a project of indifferentism.
The notion, the way these things are organized, is you see the mosque as a place, a site of conquest, where you're You're looking at it as an outpost in a hostile country that you want to build from and use to change the country.
So, we really have to think about this.
Americans really have to think about this as a project of political separatism, a project of political sectarianism, and look at it in those terms.
Our language that we've used for a long time about religious freedom people have the right to pray, people have the right to proselytize.
That's not what we're calling into question here.
What we're looking at is the nature of.
This particular political ideology, how it develops and how it's getting a foothold.
And we have to be able to use the laws that exist and see them fairly applied.
That's partly what's at issue in this ruling we're seeing an inconsistent, as is so often the case, right, with civil rights law, is we see it enforced differently on different groups.
We try to, we need it enforced consistently, we need it enforced fairly, we need it enforced cogently, but that's not what happens.
And again, this is a script we've seen in other countries.
It's a multicultural, What we can call asymmetrical multiculturalism.
The rules are enforced differently for a minority as opposed to how they are enforced upon the majority.
So we have here two different ideological forces going into play.
We have one coming from this political sectarianism that's building up.
And then on the other side, we see this ideology of asymmetrical multiculturalism, which is, I think it's fair to say, it's the official ideology now of the Democratic Party.
There is very few people who are resisting this or saying, Things that are present as an alternative.
The ideology of the Democratic Party is to have their female Congress members don a hijab and stand in these community centers and endorse it.
That's what we are seeing developing.
And again, we have to look at what's happened in other countries, the way that the left in other countries has changed and is doing that.
And that's what we see developing right here.
So we need to be vigilant and we need to expect our politicians, our judges, and our legal.
Team to apply the law as it is written and demand that.
And demand just, I think in this case, here, we just need to demand proper scrutiny for these kinds of communities, proper scrutiny for how they are proceeding.
steve bannon
I think beyond proper scrutiny, I think it's going to be shut down.
I started Breitbart London in 2012, 2013 with Raheem Gassam and a couple of guys out of some people from the Daily Telegraph.
And one of the reasons I started it.
I could tell this explosion of the Islamic political belief in London.
And you could see London starting to be taken over.
We asked Peter McElveny, one of the experts in this, to come over to the United States.
He came over to the United States in November, spent about a week in Dallas, Fort Worth.
And one of the questions I asked him, I said, hey, can you compare and contrast the early stages of the Islamic invasion of England with Texas?
And he told me afterwards, he says, Hey, it's much worse in Texas.
I go, How can that be?
I said, London's already fallen.
He said, When the anti colonialism or when the empire started to fold back on itself and a lot of the Islamic migrants started to come to London, they were not accepted by the hierarchy of business, media, politics.
They were kind of shunned.
And like you said, they kind of went into their own little communities and their own shops.
He said, In Texas, it's very different.
Texas, they're being embraced by the business community, they're being embraced particularly by the real estate community.
He talked to me about halal food.
He says halal food is a multi hundred million dollar business in Dallas Fort Worth alone.
It'll be a billion dollars in a couple years because now it's getting in officially into the school system.
So the problem we have in Texas, and this is why they focused on it the greed and avarice of the American business community is prepared to be in business with these people, help finance this, help to provide services to them legal services, financial services, tax services, architectural services.
We saw this in Oklahoma.
This is the problem.
This is not about scrutiny.
This has to be about completely shutting it down and getting us out of here.
Otherwise, it's a cancer that's going to metastasize, sir.
nathan pinkoski
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, I think when you give proper scrutiny, then this will be the result, as you'll see these things shut down.
And just to give you the example of how the halal business works, you're exactly right to say that we have the danger of our own corporate greed that pulls in a lot of this.
Kentucky Fried Chicken in France, there are many ventures and venues now.
That are just offering only halal food.
And this is not just an option on the menu, right?
This is an exercise, an instrument of social pressure that is used to ensure that other people have to eat that way.
And I think for people who might be a little squeamish and they think, oh, well, I know Muslims and they're nice people, or maybe they're older Muslims who've been in the country for a long time, maybe the generation that came from Iran in the 1980s or so, this is a different kind.
And the way it works, the way it spreads is by.
These kinds of communities developing and then pressuring those who might still culturally identify as a Muslim, pressuring them to change and adopt the more aggressive form.
And that's how halal works.
That's how the halal industry works.
And you see it built up more and more.
So it's not just even the economic dangers here, it's an instrument of social pressure that is used to change the country.
steve bannon
Nathan, where can people go?
Go ahead, sir.
Keep going.
unidentified
Keep going.
nathan pinkoski
No, no, that's just that's exactly the point that we need to see here is that these kinds of strategies that are used, even something that sounds so innocuous as we're just offering food on the menu, it's an instrument to change the way that people live.
As I said, first to change the way that maybe those who identify as culturally Muslim who came at a different time forced them to change their practice, and then you start spreading it out and you start forcing more and more people to have it.
So these are slow instruments of social pressure.
That takes a long time.
And to wrap up the point here quickly, what I think we really need to understand when we think about Islamism is most Americans, when they think about Islamism and the dangers, they think about terrorism.
We're not talking about terrorism, there's danger there, obviously.
But we're talking here about nonviolent instruments that are used to change our country and change our way of life.
And that's what we have to draw attention to and be vigilant against.
steve bannon
No, that's exactly what they're doing now.
That's why it has to be stopped and it has to be reversed.
This has to, you have to get this out of the United States.
There's no way that you can't live side by side with this because it's not religion.
It's a means of political, cultural, and social control.
As they've controlled every other country that is Islam's destroyed, destroyed.
Look at the great civilizations of Persia.
Look at the great civilizations of Egypt.
Look at the great civilization of Mesopotamia.
Look at the great civilization in Spain.
Every civilization they touched, they destroyed until they were run out of places like Spain.
Nathan, where do people.
Camp Saints Social Control 00:02:35
steve bannon
Get your at CRA.
Where do they go to get your content?
nathan pinkoski
I can go.
You can go to CRA to the website there.
You can follow me on Twitter at Nathan Pinkowski.
And I also have a substack called Lament for the Nations.
That's at pinkowski.substack.com.
So when I write something, I post it up on there.
And look, I think what you just said, the civilizational angle here is key.
We're living in a time of a civilizational identity crisis.
I just helped bring out a new edition of the dystopic novel Camp of the Saints with Vauban Books.
If viewers want to better understand our crisis of identity, hang on.
That's what we should have.
steve bannon
Hang on.
You, one of the guys, you were at Vauban Press.
I talked to your other owner that was the translator.
Did you help with that?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
nathan pinkoski
So I did the introduction for the book.
Yeah, I did the introduction for it.
So if you get the Vauban Books edition, it's my introduction.
steve bannon
The book is a masterpiece.
unidentified
It is.
steve bannon
I read that decades ago.
It's got some very rough.
Sections to it.
You will be very disturbed by some of it.
But the reason that the left and the mainstream media want to stop people from reading that book is not because of some of the certain racial issues with it, it's because it's so prophetic.
It's exactly the book written back in the 1970s, tells you exactly how the European elites and the American elites now are cratering to all this.
So, Nathan, fantastic.
Welcome aboard.
That's a fabulous book and a great job you guys did.
The new translation is magnificent.
unidentified
Not as rough as the original.
steve bannon
It smacks them.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Oh, my Lord.
Camp of the Saints.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Have to have him back on here.
If you haven't read Camp of the Saints, it's a tough read, but it's a book that you must read.
I don't read a lot of fiction.
In fact, the book is actually not much fiction.
Very disturbing.
And it's got some very.
Tough sections in it that will, I'm sure you will sit there and go, gosh, this is pretty rough.
But a very prophetic novel.
Nathan Pinkowski over at CRA.
Short break.
Back in the warm in just a moment.
Immigration Sovereignty And Safety 00:12:51
steve cortes
So, Patriots, a lot of establishment Republicans want to go soft on immigration, and frankly, they don't mind losing because of it.
Right now, that is by far the strongest major macro issue for the Republicans.
The war is unpopular, people are frustrated with the economy, and they blame the governing GOP.
But in all my extensive polling, immigration is still by far the strongest of the major macro issues, and it's a terrific contrast.
Versus the radical open borders Democrats.
And yet, these establishment Republicans, these surrender collaborationist Republicans, clamor for us to return to the days of corporate republicanism, of Bush republicanism.
It's not principled and it won't win.
See my article.
steve bannon
Cortez, I want to make sure everybody, let's push it out.
Mo and Grace and Elizabeth Sobrey can read this.
The brilliance here in timing is you did Arizona.
We just had Colonel Self and Penkowski from CRA on about Texas.
I spent, I don't know, two or three months in Texas.
I can tell you that immigration is still the top.
And when I say immigration, I mean still illegal immigration across the border stopped, but the deportation of illegal immigrants, if not number one, high.
This whole situation with the Muslim invasion and then the H 1B visas, that's just right below the surface.
I mean, if you bound it all up together, It is the number one issue people want to address, and the Republican establishment in Texas refuses to address it if it's not forced on them by the grassroots.
And now, the Trump administration, this is why it's so important you did Arizona, and people ought to look at this and the crosstabs that the political operation over there has to get a reality check.
We do not have to lose the midterms, that is not foreordained.
All these people walk around black pilled.
But if we don't get on top of the issues that are going to have people come out to vote, Because their side's all worked up to drive Trump from office, it's going to be a grim night.
It doesn't have to be a grim night, but your poll shows once again if you don't focus what got us here, people are not going to show up, particularly in these midterm elections.
Cortez, your assessment.
steve cortes
That's right.
Listen, dance with the one that brought you, okay?
And the one that brought us was immigration, and it is still the one.
And my polling shows this.
And just to put this in context, okay, this isn't some push poll that I did.
This was not a good poll for Republicans, not a good poll for For President Trump, that I just did in immigration.
But the one shining issue, okay, the one place where the public overwhelmingly agrees with the America First vision, still, even right now, even when they're frustrated in some pretty important areas, it's immigration.
For example, I asked Arizonans, border state, as you mentioned, I asked, should local police cooperate with deportations?
So, not just sort of broadly, should there be, you know, kumbaya cooperation, cooperate with deportation, with mass deportations.
In Arizona, 66% said, Yes, only 28%.
No, plus 38%.
That's the overall number in the state of Arizona.
This is a state where I got a Trump job approval of minus 16.
So I'm not cooking the books here.
This was not a MAGA sample.
unidentified
Okay.
steve cortes
I'm getting a true sample of the electorate that didn't look great overall.
But on immigration, fantastic.
By the way, 45% of Harris voters, 45% of Harris voters in Arizona want Arizona state and local police to fully cooperate with mass.
Deportations out of this country.
Among Hispanics, obviously a heavily Latino state, 52% of Hispanics want full cooperation.
Among Gen Z, I think this is critical.
Gen Z right now went from being a really bright area for the Republican Party, for Donald Trump, for our movement, to right now a challenge.
And I believe that's all because of the economy right now.
Life is tough right now for a lot of Gen Z folks, especially those really just trying to enter the workforce.
So overall, Gen Z approval for Donald Trump, job approval, minus 31.
That's a tough number that we've got to deal with going forward.
But on this issue of immigration, mass deportations, plus 17, 53 to 36.
So, across demographics, across ethnicities, ages, what we see here is a broad consensus in the United States.
And you're exactly right, because it's not just about the chaos that we saw under Joe Biden at the border.
That was terrible.
But it's about the ongoing effects, corrosive effects of tolerating tens of millions of illegals in our midst.
What it does to us in terms of public safety.
You know, we've seen so many terrible examples, probably the most horrific recent example being Sheridan Gorman.
That's why I went there to Loyola University, Loyola Chicago, and Filmed a documentary right there at the scene of that horrific, totally preventable crime, whether it's wages and the prosperity of Americans.
By the way, you want the fastest way, Steve?
Here's another very practical reason to insist on mass deportations.
It's not just that it's good politically, it's also economic.
You want the fastest way to get real wages to grow in this country, meaning your pay adjusted for the cost of living?
The fastest single way?
There's a lot of ways to get there, but the quickest ramp for sure is mass deportations because you're doing two things.
You're taking some of the artificial demand out.
Demand for things like housing, right, which is again artificially inflated because of millions and millions of illegals, many of whom we're paying for, by the way.
It's bad enough they're here.
We're actually paying for them.
We were paying the rent of that killer of Sheridan Gorman.
Think about that.
unidentified
Okay.
steve cortes
We're paying his rent, forcing up rent prices for American citizens.
And then if you take out those illegal workers, the pay goes up.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
But it's not just the illegal aliens that invaded, it's also the H 1Bs.
I'm telling you, in Texas, I tell folks we gave people a permission structure.
This was the whole effort.
To put the ballot initiative on prohibiting Sharia law.
It gave a permission structure for people to talk about.
And then it was overwhelming.
They'd wanted to make this a major issue for a while.
Right below that is H 1B visas.
And that's going to become the number one issue down there.
That this whole quote unquote legal immigration system is a joke.
Before I lose you, I want to do the flip side of the same coin because it's about America first.
Talk to me about NATO.
What do you found out about NATO?
steve cortes
I think that if there is good news about this war, and for those of us who believe in realism and restraint, we want this to wrap up as quickly as possible.
But if there's good news, I think one thing this war has done versus Iran is that it has revealed just how ridiculous this so-called transatlantic alliance is.
Now, NATO was once a magnificent organization.
It did amazing things for this country.
It did incredible good for the world during the Cold War.
But the Cold War has been over for decades, and it has devolved into nothing but an American protectorate, whereby we are subsidizing the lifestyles of wealthy Western Europeans.
And what this battle, this recent battle, has revealed is they are not there for us when we need them.
They are not true allies.
They are simply willing to act as beneficiaries of our charity and American largesse.
And so I'm really pleased to see that Donald Trump is starting to very publicly say, it's time for us to rethink NATO, right?
And that's the article I wrote for American Greatness.
It's time for us to rethink NATO.
And Donald Trump says, hey, Germany, maybe time for you to go out alone.
You're a wealthy country.
You should be more than capable.
Of handling your own defense.
Stop relying on the United States, and we can't count on you when we ask for help.
steve bannon
What I like, the other thing, by the way, the president terminated the war, I guess, last night on the clock ticking on the war powers.
I wouldn't have done that because I would have challenged the War Powers Act right now.
It's totally unconstitutional.
Let's just get, we've challenged everything else.
Why don't we challenge something that's blatantly unconstitutional like the War Powers Act?
Don't play their game.
But the president terminated it, sent the ceasefire.
You know, the timing didn't count.
But, Steve, here's one thing that the focus in the Iran war has done the Ukraine situation.
We know we got an arms problem because of Ukraine.
Obviously, we're not stepping up for the money anymore.
That what they did last summer was completely phony as we said it was going to be.
But they have been able to cop a, uh, Alone from the Europeans, particularly the Germans.
They are getting some advances in drone technology to sell.
And so they're out doing their thing.
If that's what the European nations want to do and come together on Ukraine, go for it.
That's a war that you guys initiated and started.
We had nothing to do it.
As Steve Cortez would say every time, the vital national security interest of the United States is the southern border in Texas and Arizona.
It is not the eastern Russian speaking border of Ukraine.
So there have been some good things that have come out of here, I think, particularly thinking of where America's real interests lie.
Don't you agree?
steve cortes
Yes, 100%.
No, I think that is a great point that there's even less wiggle room, there's less tolerance in the United States to continue to fund a regional ethnic Black Sea struggle when we ourselves are engaged in a very major war in the Persian Gulf, right?
That we know that we don't have the wherewithal, we don't have the money to sustain both at the same time.
And certainly, this Black Sea battle is not America's fight.
If it's anybody's fight outside of Russia and Ukraine, outside of those two countries, It's Western Europe's fight.
And you know, you've made that point many times that the Western Europeans, if they want to fight to the last Ukrainian, which is what the leadership, at least from Brussels and Davos, has told us, fine.
But you do it.
Do it on your dime.
And by the way, you supply the weapons.
Of course, they're not able to because they've deindustrialized.
That's a whole other topic of discussion.
But the reality is, if they want to continue this fight, if they insist that this four year war, senseless slaughter there in Ukraine needs to go on, then it's going to become their problem.
It's going to be their problem to prosecute the war.
To pay for the war.
And I believe, though, that because we are no longer doing what we did under Joe Biden and lavishly supporting a very corrupt Zelensky, I believe we're actually going to get very close to President Trump forging a peace.
And I think not only would that be great to do for the world, but it would also be great to do politically again here back home, because it would show that even though he's engaged in the Iran war, Donald Trump is still the America first realist who believes in restraint.
And he is the peacemaker.
He has been a magnificent peacemaker.
Throughout most of his two terms, I think he can show that again if he gets to this peaceful resolution in Ukraine, which I think is possible very soon.
steve bannon
We're going to have Ren and DeGrasse on tomorrow to get up the massive updates today happening on this redistricting fight, the redistricting wars, where now some of the Reiners are getting a wake up call and have to come.
However, that's getting the seats in play, okay?
Back to being a fair map.
We have to fill it with content.
How long do you think we have, 30 days, 60 days, until the political operation starts to focus on the issues that got us here, particularly?
Immigration and deportations, sir.
steve cortes
Yeah, listen, no, I mean, I think it has to be starting right now, as long as the focus, though, again, is immigration.
This is our winning issue.
It's right on principle, it's right on politics, and it leads to a better economy, right?
The economy right now is where the Republican Party, where President Trump are struggling.
And we see this in my polling, we see it in all credible public polling.
My point is immigration, not only do you do the right thing for the country in terms of our sovereignty and our safety, but you are also going to reap.
Very quickly, the benefits of people feeling better about the economy because their real wages are rising.
That is so material.
So there's just, there's nothing but benefits in this.
The only people who don't like it are the globalist radicals who live in places like San Francisco and Brooklyn, New York, and then the big business honchos.
unidentified
Okay.
steve cortes
And here's the great news that crowd, while they might have a lot of money, they don't have a lot of votes.
unidentified
Okay.
steve cortes
So doing the right thing here gets us the votes.
So we get the right policies, we do the right patriotic thing for our country, and we earn the support of the people.
And we get an economy back on track.
The economy was doing quite well, actually, before the war.
We really were seeing real wages grow.
Now we're stepping back, unfortunately.
Let's get back to that pace of real wages growing and let's accelerate it by getting all of these illegal workers out of the United States and getting this artificial demand for goods and housing from the illegals out of the United States.
steve bannon
Sir, where do people go to get these films that you're doing, your documentaries and your articles?
steve cortes
Yes, please go to Cortez Investigates.com, Cortez with an S at the end, Cortez Investigates.com.
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Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you.
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Naomi Wolf joins us.
Naomi, going back in time to the height of the pandemic, this kind of deputy of Fauci that was indicted, is that going to lead to more indictments?
I mean, you've got guys like Barrick down at the University of North Carolina.
You get so many people associated with this gain of function scandal.
I understand.
That they're very far down the road working on an indictment of Fauci.
But shouldn't this expand out, ma'am?
naomi wolf
Certainly.
And I think it's important to call attention to some facts that are kind of hiding in plain sight if you know where to look for them.
It is big news that David Morenz, the advisor to Dr. Fauci, has been indicted.
My concern is that Senator Rand Paul is calling attention to his assertion that Dr. Fauci lied to Congress.
I think that's certainly obvious, but I don't think that's the most important and serious thing.
And what needs to be investigated for sure is this curriculum vita that my husband, Brian O'Shea, found in 2021 of Eric Donaldson, PhD, who's a lieutenant of Dr. Ralph Barracks at the University of North Carolina.
And what it shows from my reading of it, and you can look at it yourselves, it's right there, is that Dr. Fauci wasn't, you know, his most serious crime isn't just that he lied to Congress, it would appear.
What looks like a far more serious crime is fully, appears to be fully documented in this CD.
That he has been funding what looks to me like gain of function research at the University of North Carolina in locations with research in locations not far away in Wuhan, right?
But right here in the United States, including during the years that that research, gain of function research, was illegal in the United States, in locations like Maryland and Montana and an area identified only as the Northeastern United States.
What this CV shows is that Eric Donaldson, working often with Ralph. Barrick at UNC was receiving over $3 million from Dr. Fauci and his colleagues to do bad coronavirus research.
In which, what looked to me like all the main building blocks of what got unveiled in 2020 as the COVID virus, the weaponized virus, which was so shocking and mysterious and described as so new, and who knew what it was, all of those building blocks.
In terms of research, are right here in this eight page CV.
And may I just start with some of the evidence in this CV?
Sure, I'll just jump right in.
His topic paragraph is I am funded by the NIAID to conduct a study looking at the viruses in bats and studying how viruses cross the species barrier to emerge into new populations.
In addition, I am working with Dr. Baerck to resurrect bat coronaviruses.
To determine the cross species transmission potential of a variety of novel coronaviruses identified in bats.
This is a 2019 curriculum vita.
So, what he's saying is, this is who he is.
He's working with Dr. Barrick to make coronaviruses in bat feces in America, which are not bothering any human beings.
He goes to those locations in America, not in Wuhan, not in the caves, you know, far away from Wuhan in China.
As the story we were given finally, when it you know they had to confess that the Wuhan lab was working on this material, but here in America, he was collecting this material from bats, analyzing it, and um doing experiments to make it cross uh species into humans, into mammals, and make it more infectious.
steve bannon
It was so dangerous.
Obama's National Security Council put a stop on it, and and and Fauci went to the National Security Council people when we had a change of uh HHS.
And slipped it in to get that lifted.
Fauci's up to his neck.
Fauci's being deeply investigated for much more than perjury.
Natalie, we, Naomi, we've got to go.
Where do people go to get the resume, to get the write up of what you and your husband are working on this?
naomi wolf
So they should look on X on my pinned tweet for the resume right there, especially look at pages four, five, and six and his publications where you see the spike protein, the receptor sites, you know, all the things that became.
So familiar to us.
They're working on a vaccine for the coronavirus.
They are challenging elderly mice with what they're finding.
It's all right there.
And you can also go to Substack shortly, where I'm going to be posting a transcript of the podcast I did, walking through this CV and showing how we, our tax dollars, funded the development of deadly viral pathogens.
steve bannon
When are you going to post the transcript up in your Substack?
naomi wolf
Should be up in about an hour and a half.
steve bannon
And where, what's Substack?
Where do they go on the Substack?
How they give you?
naomi wolf
I'm so sorry.
It's Naomi Wolf's Substack Outspoken, and it'll also be up on Daily Cloud.
And the podcast is now up on my ex and on Daily Cloud.
And this is more than lying to Congress.
This means that Dr. Fauci was discussing, communing, directing for 12 years weaponization of coronavirus.
steve bannon
He knew what Zachary was doing, and he lied internally to the government, not just to Congress, the lies, the investigation, or show the lies he did to people.
Naomi Wolf, thank you so much for being on top of this.
Look forward to having you back.
The FOIA indictment on Fauci's associate is just the beginning.
That's the tip of the iceberg.
There is a full bore investigation of Fauci that will lead to multiple indictments on Fauci and many years in prison for Fauci.
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