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April 25, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 996: Problem Solved! Germany Reduces % Of Crimes Committed By Foreigners By “Legalising” Light Drug Use

Stephen K. Bannon and Vadim Dirksen analyze EU crime statistics, citing Reuters data on 64.2 million recent immigrants to argue that Germany's reported crime drop stems from legalizing light drug use rather than genuine safety improvements. They highlight rising violent offenses by foreign-born individuals and condemn a Saxony incident where non-binary activists exposed minors to graphic pornography during state-funded education. Furthermore, the pair support Donald Trump's critique of Pope Leo XIV for advancing globalist agendas while urging Croatia's nationalist government to resist Vatican influence and protect national sovereignty against EU overreach. [Automatically generated summary]

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Official Crime Statistics Explained 00:14:42
steve bannon
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unidentified
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ben harnwell
Friday, 24th of April, Anno Domini, 2026.
unidentified
Good evening.
ben harnwell
Hanwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's war room, joined by our special guest to start off the show, Vadim Dirksen, the senior editor at Junge Freiheit in Germany, which is, I think we can fair to say, AFD adjacent.
Let's start off.
There was something on social media that many folks will have seen, had millions and millions of views across various media, illustrating precisely The consequences of the illegal third world invasion taking place across Europe right now.
There you can see it on the screen.
Each one of those dots is 100 people, folks.
And you can actually see this.
It's a swarm, isn't it?
This is what an invasion looks like.
It's why it's called an invasion.
And that's the ongoing crisis.
Now, Vadim has joined us this evening to discuss the new statistics that have come out now.
And I'm going to cite Reuters here, one of the three global.
Press agencies on this.
I'm not quoting the AFD's domestic think tank.
I'm not sort of going to go to one of our various populist nationalist iterations to tell me their research.
I'm going to go to Reuters, one of the most sedate establishment news organizations there is.
And this is what they're saying.
They're saying the number of immigrants entering the European Union last year.
has climbed to a record high of 64.2 million last year.
64.2 million.
And that is up 2.1 million from 2024.
You might be interested to know that those figures themselves compare to 40 million invaders in 2010, 15 years ago.
And that's the European Union's own official figure.
Statistics agency Eurostat and the UN refugee agency data.
Those are official statistics.
And I stress that these are official statistics because they are so hair raising.
If I'd have said this is younger Freiheits research and they've published this, you say, oh, Hanra, it can't possibly be that bad.
You're making it up and exaggerating again.
These are official statistics on behalf of the people that are overseeing and facilitating.
This third world illegal invasion.
Vadim, correct my mathematics here.
We've gone from 40 million in 2010 to 64.2 million in 2025.
By my reckoning, that's an over 50% increase in 15 years.
And I tell you that that illustrates to me the fact that our sociopathic overlords in the European Union, headed up by Ursula von der Leyen and Company, they're not backing down, are they?
They're not saying, oh, look, Angela Merkel let in a million Syrians and that took the AFD from 3% to 25%.
We better back off now because we're creating the very electoral phenomenon we're desperately trying to oppose and destroy.
They're not backing off on that.
They're doubling down.
unidentified
Yeah?
vadim derksen
You know, if one car.
Is heading into one wrong direction.
What they are doing is just slowing it down.
So they're bringing down the numbers of each year of illegal immigrants.
I just looked it up last year.
They said, oh, illegal immigrants dropped by 50% compared to the previous year, but there's still about 200,000 new immigrants in net which came to Germany last year.
This is a big city, just what moved to Germany again, but nobody's noticing it anymore.
The numbers, maybe they're going down, but they're just slowing it down.
The process which they started and they will continue on going to proceed this way until they lose power, I guess.
We got just fresh numbers also on statistics, criminal statistics of the last year of 2025.
The police is releasing them.
These are just raw numbers.
You can look it up, you can analyze them.
And the funny part was.
The big headline in all mainstream media was the criminal statistics is going down.
And, you know, the first question would be, and Ben, I think we would think, hold on, this is wrong.
I mean, we know exactly how it is, actually, right?
We know the truth.
But how does it work?
And that's the funny part they brought these numbers down by just legalizing weed.
And this made the criminal statistics go down.
But in reality, all the numbers like murder and other high crimes are rising and rising in Germany still.
And there's no sight that these numbers are going to be going down.
unidentified
Yeah.
ben harnwell
Well, let's look at that.
So, firstly, you suggest that the European Union is boasting that the number of immigrants coming into the European Union is coming down.
I'd push back on that.
I think they might be talking about asylum seekers or refugees, but it's overwhelming the actual numbers of.
If you include legalized immigrants along with illegal immigrants, that figure is going up.
And this is the headline figure that I was quoting earlier.
50 over the last 15 years, that figure's going up.
Um, on the half, on the part, let's come and look at the figures that you were talking about now.
And this is the um, in terms of criminal numbers, the crime numbers, you're talking about the proportion of crime committed in Germany attributable, yes, to the foreign born, right?
And you're saying that the German statistics are and that's phenomenally high anyway.
And you're saying that, um, that I mean, I think the most recent figures I saw in Germany like, like, like, um, that.
An invader, an illegal invader, is 20 times more likely to commit violent or sexual crime in Germany than a German.
unidentified
I have the numbers here.
I can't tell you.
ben harnwell
Yeah, tell me.
Tell me.
vadim derksen
Some example.
For example, for rape, the rape is committed by almost 40% of foreigners in Germany, all rape cases.
But they make all the 40%.
40% of all rapes in Germany are.
ben harnwell
40% of all rapes in Germany are committed by 15% of the population.
vadim derksen
No, 40%.
Yeah, basically, yes.
That's the correct saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
vadim derksen
And still, this doesn't count like they count in Germans who have a German passport, but they can be already Syrians who got the German passport three years ago, maybe.
ben harnwell
So the actual numbers of sexual crimes, sexual and violent crimes in Germany committed by, let's say, the foreign born is going to be far higher than actual real Germans.
vadim derksen
In a population of 100,000 foreigners, there are about, let's say, on male foreigners, there are 13,800 crimes if they are foreigners.
Compared to a German passport citizen, this is less than a half, 6,000 people who commit crime.
So every time you meet a foreigner, the chance to get sexually abused by this person is twice as high.
These are raw numbers.
ben harnwell
And you're saying that the number of, that the proportion of crimes in Germany committed by the foreign born is coming down largely because the German authorities have taken out of that statistic sort of drug use, light drug use, which they're no longer counting as a serious crime.
unidentified
Yes.
ben harnwell
So they've taken that out of the statistics and they said, oh, look, look how the figures are coming down.
vadim derksen
It's getting better, yes.
ben harnwell
It's getting better.
vadim derksen
Exactly.
ben harnwell
That's how they're doing it.
vadim derksen
This is manipulating numbers.
Exactly.
And we see a dramatic increase in violent crimes and sexual abuse crimes and so on.
And these are the tricks and the numbers they do.
And this is something, you know, I don't know why nobody sees that, but this puts lots of distrust, or let's say people start not trusting the government more and more.
And we see that in the Polls for the AFD.
There are coming up some two major elections now in the east part of Germany, in Saxony, Anhalt, and Mecklenburg Vorpommern, where AFD might reach even the full, like the total win, like over 50% in the parliament.
This is something breaking.
And we see that the CDU is.
Like the Christian party is squeezed between the AFD and the left wing parties, and they are locked in.
They don't know what to do with that because of the policy not to work with the AFD.
So we are kind of in a locked in situation where the situation doesn't get better because of the so called brandmauer, the firewall against the AFD.
unidentified
Yeah.
ben harnwell
So, That's a good thing, isn't it?
If Germans are starting, if these statistics are becoming so unbelievable, people are ceasing to believe what the government is telling them.
That's a good thing, isn't it?
Because that means that they're going to awaken out of their sense of slumber and start taking over with both hands a sense of their own agency and their own destiny.
Fadim, I'd like to talk about the.
unidentified
The funny thing is.
ben harnwell
Okay, go ahead.
No, go on.
Go on.
unidentified
Go ahead.
Okay.
vadim derksen
One funny part is.
The leftists, they then say, okay, we have a problem with men.
This is a men's case problem.
It's generally men.
So the feminists blame the men in general.
But the funny thing is if you take a look at the statistics in foreign women and men and compare the German women and men, the foreign women are more criminal than the German men.
unidentified
So, it's across the board.
Yes.
ben harnwell
It's across the board.
It's crime is gender blind, as a sociologist would say in this regard.
Another statistic here that I would come back to is, and again, this is from Reuters, I'm quoting here.
It says that Germany has the largest share of foreign born invaders.
Amongst all of the EU member states, and you have you're hosting 18 million invaders.
Um, and it says here 72 of them are of working age.
Well, that's you know, that's basically 30 a little less than 30 that aren't of working age, they're either too young or too old to work.
Um, and I think, doesn't that blow up the lie somewhat used by you?
Mentioned the Christian.
Democratic Union, the CDU, Angela Merkel's party, the party that's back in power right now.
You mentioned that they are getting squeezed between the socialists on the left and the AFD on the right.
But this explodes the CDU establishment lie that Germany needs these invaders to do the jobs that Germans don't want to do.
Because if 30% of them aren't even capable of working right now, that's going to be a net draw on the German taxpayer, right?
vadim derksen
And this, it's not only 30%, it depends on which group of people you look.
The Syrians, for example, which came to Germany after 2015, about 50% of them are still on welfare and the other 50% work.
So the leftists say, okay, this is a success.
Dollar Loss and Gold Welfare 00:04:16
vadim derksen
Over 50% of them are already in work.
But come on, guys.
I mean, if after 10 or more years being in Germany and you still don't have a job, There's something wrong.
So, if 50% of work, this is not a success story.
And our welfare system is over half of it is full only on foreign people, asylum seekers, and so on.
So, the welfare system, which was once created for situations where Germans are not able to work or something, this is now getting more and more used by foreign people, illegal immigrants who come to our country.
Just find it very suitable and very nice system to live here without working compared to the status or the level of, let's say, of your living standards compared to the country where they are from.
So, this is another lie that the CDU is telling the people, especially now, even Merz, who talks now to the Indian.
President, or when he went there last year, he said, We need Indian workers.
And they want to now, they have a special program for skilled workers from India.
I mean, we see them here.
They deliver food.
This is the skilled work of Indian people here.
You know that from the UK as well, I guess.
I don't see them programming stuff.
All the programmers there are in the US or they're programming from India directly.
And now Claude and all the other AI is just wiping out the whole industry of IT industry.
So there's always an excuse for migration.
And the most part, what sucks, and they are not, they never turn this around.
And sent the people back, although they promised it.
ben harnwell
Well, we're going to talk about Saxony, right, in just two minutes' time, and I'm going to give a trigger warning when we come back after this short ad reading.
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Back now with Vadim Dirksen, senior editor of Junger Freiheit Folks.
Graphic School Photos Censored 00:07:14
ben harnwell
Not joking here.
Be careful if you have kids sitting around watching television.
You probably want to shuffle them out of the room for this.
It's a trigger warning.
What we're going to show you now, perhaps, yeah, and Vadim has already done some censorship on these photos, they are so graphic.
We can't even show the majority of these things on RAV today.
It's that bad.
So, what are we talking about in Saxony, in a municipality there?
The headmaster, in violation of the law, invited in two non binary activists to speak to his ninth graders, and that's a ninth grader, 14 years of age.
I say this is against the law because in Saxony it is the law that the goal, content, and form of Of family and sex education are to be communicated to the parents in good time to be discussed with them.
That did not take place.
Vadim, you've written, you've published Younger Freiheit, has published an alarming article on this.
Why don't you, and I know there's a lot of people upset about this in Germany right now, tell us briefly what happened?
vadim derksen
What happened?
Their so called project.
Weeks in the school.
We have a crisis of teachers.
We don't have enough teachers in our school.
So the government is funding different NGOs with project education programs about different topics where people, these can be educated people, but in this case, these were left wing activists come to school and have a project.
Of five days, maybe, or shorter or longer term in a school.
And teachers are happy because they can fill in the gaps in their schedule for the students.
So there are many NGOs.
They are sponsored also by the government quite often.
And these two activists, they call themselves non binary.
They are probably female.
They came into the class.
You must imagine this is a school.
On the border to Poland, where the AFD has almost 50%, and they came from the leftist Berlin and tried to teach the students what democracy looks like after they take over.
They told them that AFD sucks, they need some education, and they started to show them gay porn, pure gay porn.
We saw these pictures.
The students that were in pure shock, they Took pictures with their phones of that, sent it to their parents.
They were in shock.
These students were, these two activists were then kicked out of school.
The project was cancelled.
But you might think, okay, this might be just a little mistake.
Well, somebody didn't just look it up, what kind of material they have.
And maybe they are just some crazy guys or some crazy people who went through the system and could present this stuff.
No, we checked it up.
It looks like this NGO behind that, which is translated as courage, mood in Germany, they.
Are funded by the government and their program is to educate, sexually educate students.
And this is a system.
We now dig deeper into that and saw even more material for even younger ages.
They use then some drawings which look like funny sketches for children, a playbook, but this is horrible what they show there.
They show sexual.
Practice which you never see them anywhere except maybe in some crazy dark rooms.
ben harnwell
I'm going to read from your article here from Junger Freiheit's article.
You say, amongst the contents distributed on the floor from the backpacks of these two non binary activists were various, and I quote, were various pornographic photos showing men having sex, including oral intercourse, photos of a bear.
Hairy male buttocks and that of a penis also fell into the hands of 14 to 15 year olds.
And I've seen some of these photos and I've passed them on to Denver.
I don't think we're going to be able to.
And here's the thing, right?
You even before sending us these photos, you pixelated them, right?
You censored the most graphic elements of these photos.
Even with the censorship that you put on these photos before sending them to us.
I don't think we're going to be able to put these photos on the screen today.
We're not going to be able to scroll down.
Normally, when we're discussing an article, we'd have it scrolling on the screen.
I don't think we're going to be able to do that as we talk about it.
vadim derksen
One more point we lost our WhatsApp channel just because of the articles we posted about that.
We posted an article and they blocked us because there were these keywords porn, children, and stuff and gay.
So they just deleted our account.
ben harnwell
So here's my point, okay?
You pushed this stuff out on a private WhatsApp group and WhatsApp have blocked you.
We can't show these photos.
On Real America's Voice because they're too graphic, even in their censored form.
The originals, however, are what the education authorities are showing to 14 year old kids.
That, I think, illustrates the point.
Something too graphic for television and too graphic for WhatsApp is what the education authorities are conspiring behind the backs of parents to morally corrupt and destroy the equilibrium of 14 year olds.
Of 14 year old adolescents.
And I think that's the point here.
It's too graphic for television, too graphic for WhatsApp, but it's fine for kids.
There's no way that that can make sense, Vadim.
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ben harnwell
Oh, very quickly, where do people, thanks for coming on to the show.
We'll get you back very quickly to continue to show us the articles you're pushing out on Junger Freiheit.
Where do people go to follow you, if not on WhatsApp right now?
vadim derksen
They can go on X on at Junger Freiheit.
ben harnwell
X and I think you've got another channel as well, don't you?
unidentified
Yep.
ben harnwell
X, Athreel Dirksen.
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
ben harnwell
Vadim Dirksen, you're always a star on the war and the war imposter.
unidentified
Love you.
ben harnwell
Thank you very much indeed.
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ben harnwell
Welcome back.
Well, in the second half of this show, we're going to be just talking to Filip Gaspar, an old friend of the war room.
He's been on many times before.
He's at a conference called Tradfest in Croatia.
Filip, welcome back to the war room.
filip gaspar
Thanks for having me back.
And what a coincidence.
I'm here in the capital of Croatia, Zagreb, actually at the main square where the Croats fought for the liberation in the 90s.
And very happy that I also can be again on Benin's war room.
And I'm very happy that this.
Tread festival is taking place because I will explain it.
It's, in my opinion, not only important for Croats, but especially also for Catholics and for this region.
So, I'm the first time attending it.
It took place the first time eight years ago, and it's organized with the Vigil organization together with all the jurors from Croatia, as you know, Catholic organizations, as you know.
And I'm not sure if the audience is aware, but we I think Croats are devoted Catholics, just as Polish people.
So it's very important for us.
And the topics this time will not only be a fight against, let's say, wokeism and the so called liberate agenda, what is going on with a little bit too much influence from Brussels, but also special.
And that's why I'm very happy because the last time when I was at your show, we talked about the 30 years of the Dayton Agreement in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
unidentified
That's right.
filip gaspar
And the role of the Croats.
And tomorrow, the conference will have some special emphasis on the third entity or what's going on in Bosnia and Herzegovina.
ben harnwell
Well, we're going to have in a couple of weeks, I think we're going to get Vincent Bartuelo, the organizer, the founder of Vigilare, on the show.
But I get that Vigilare is probably one of the largest conservative and Catholic organizations, if not the largest in Croatia.
What is the feeling in Croatia right now?
And describe that something to our largely American audience so that they get an idea of the atmosphere right now in Croatia and around the conference itself.
filip gaspar
So, the conference itself, I was very, very happy that I just saw Cardinal Pulic, who was the Cardinal in Sarajevo during the war and afterwards, and plays a very important role as a voice for us, Croats.
And the feeling here around the conference, around the conference, especially in Croatia, because a few minutes ago when we started to talk, I was mentioning this Tirkban Jelacic, which is the main square in Croatia.
So, every time The Croatian football team wins, or in any one of the sports we're good in, you see that the people are gathering in this main square.
So, anything important politically is happening.
You can see those pictures and pictures of this square.
So, around the conference, and for me, for someone, just a quick reminder, my parents are Croats from Bosnia and Herzegovina, but I was born and raised in Germany.
So, every time I come to Zagreb, I think I see the slightly different I see them more openly than someone that lives on a daily basis here.
So, for example, tomorrow on Saturday, what was mentioned on the conference, you have every Saturday, you have people, men, praying the rosary quietly, not louder here on the main square.
And it became a big politicum.
I'm telling this because it was mentioned on the conference that out of a sudden, the last two or three years, you have people, Croats, not people from outside, Croats, leftists, we know those special people that are protesting against it.
And I'm talking here about a land that Catholicism plays an important role.
So, around this conference, inside, I just came out, the first panel is still going on.
Very enthusiastic.
So, not sad, not depressive, as I see it sometimes, maybe sometimes in the West.
So, it's full enthusiastic.
People are happy, willing to fight for the.
Let's say for Western civilization, for Catholic civilization, for their own people.
So, to say it again, it's very, very important, and I really, really am grateful that they're organizing this.
ben harnwell
Now, tell me something about the current political situation in Croatia.
You've got the governing party, the Croatian Democratic Union, right now.
I gather that it's relying quite heavily on the nationalist, the major nationalist representation, the Homeland Movement.
Tell me a bit, if you wouldn't mind, about the Homeland Movement and integrate it.
Within the say, like, for example, how is it compared to a political party that our war imposter will be very familiar with, which will be the AFD?
How do they compare?
Is it fair to say that Homeland is like Croatia's version of the AFD?
Is that fair?
filip gaspar
I mean, I'd like them to become one day the creation version of the AFD in terms of percentage and support by the people.
But I know what you're referring to, so you can say the Hare Zhe, Hrvatska, Demokratska, Zajdnica, you can say CDU, and the Democrats could procure some kind of the AFD.
But they have the advantage, they're already forming, they're already part of the government here in Croatia, they don't have this firewall.
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filip gaspar
As we have in Germany.
But yeah, in my eyes, let's say right wing conservatives, conservatives, what's something that creation is not the only conservative party.
This is a topic, especially at the side that creation right wing is a little bit split up into several parties.
But yeah, the Hadi Zeo, the ruling party, in my personal opinion, is too much a copy of, I can say, the CDU or something, what we have too much in my eyes in Western.
But the ruling party, yeah, the ruling party, and probably will win the next upcoming elections again.
ben harnwell
Okay, stand by, Philip.
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Trump, Pope, and Vatican Positions 00:10:46
ben harnwell
Philip, tell me more about the Homeland Movement because I want our audience, the Warren Posse, to be more familiar with it and to recognize it when it's spoken in conversation.
You may have noticed that there is a maneuver now that Viktor Orban is no longer or soon to be no longer in power.
In Hungary, once the new Prime Minister Peter Magyar is installed, and Ursula von der Leyen has wasted no time whatsoever literally hours saying that it's the European Commission's intention to take control a greater control of foreign policy by moving from unanimity on foreign policy in the Council of Ministers over to qualified majority voting.
What is the position?
Of Croatia in this.
Croatia is one of the smaller EU countries.
We presently have the possibility to wield the veto, which of course you will lose and then will be dominated by the larger countries like France and Germany.
Tell me, Homeland, which is pretty big on preserving sovereignty, how is this going down in Croatia?
And might we expect Homeland, as part of the government, part of the governing coalition, to use that leverage?
To try to preserve the integrity of Croatia's ability to have a stronger voice in the determination of EU foreign policy?
filip gaspar
It's a very, very good question.
And also something special I think that most Croats that I talk to aren't even aware of.
First of all, first of all, what you said, and the right for the veto and other.
So, but to question the stance, as far as I know, for Domovinsky Pokrit, that's the homeland movement, they are for sovereignty.
And they, of course, want to keep this, but this will be a crucial, crucial point if they, in my opinion, if they don't preserve this or they're weak, or they're weak, their position or they give in to the ruling party just to form the government.
Then, in my opinion, I think the Croats won't vote for them anymore.
My personal opinion.
But your question, how the stance is for, in this case, sovereignty and not to give up this position, which.
I say it again, it's very, very important to not do so, especially after we, as you said, someone else was installed in Hungary and we've lost Viktor Orban.
ben harnwell
Filip, I think probably after Poland, arguably tied with Poland, Croatia is the European Union's most Catholic country.
There's a very strong presence of the Catholic tradition in Croatia.
How are Croatians falling down?
Very patriotic to have gotten their national independence a couple of decades ago.
But tell me, how are Croatians handling the social media warfare between President Trump and Pope Leo?
filip gaspar
Okay, how are they dealing with it?
It's not that understandable.
I think for every Catholic, when you're not deep, when you're not dive deeper into it, and maybe you're not aware of President Trump, let's say, a very special approach to any geopolitical issue, then of course the first thing that Croats and Catholics think is you're basically attacking.
Basically, taking a poke, which is, let's say, like this, they're not very happy about it.
This is the polite version of it.
So they don't understand it.
And actually, my first reaction to this, I also thought, okay, what's going on there?
What doesn't mean I'm happy that we may rest in peace.
I'm happy that it's, if you were to ask me, I'd like to have back the Bavarian or German Pope.
I wasn't happy with the Argentinian one.
So I am still giving, it's not.
From my opinion, too early to have an opinion on the new pope that we have.
But Croats, Catholics, the first, how dare he do something like this?
So it wasn't a smart.
ben harnwell
Let me put it like this.
And it's a point that I make constantly on the womb.
It's impossible to fight a figure on the political front whilst giving them.
Moral authority on the spiritual side at the same time, absolutely impossible.
And that's why I absolutely support a thousand percent and delighted and proud of Donald Trump and JD Vance pushing back against the Vatican's pro invasion agenda.
Because if they didn't, the Vatican would have a free reign.
And it does put Catholics in public life, of course, in a difficult position.
Are they going to defend the Pope and the Vatican, or are they going to defend President Trump?
filip gaspar
I'm totally on your side.
I'm totally on your side, but the question was how the average crush.
And then actually, I was thinking about my mother that doesn't even know how to use social media, that only sees the news and thinks what's going on.
How can he attack the Pope?
Afterwards, I think it's a very smart thing when I'm happy about it.
Let's say, maybe I wouldn't say good and bad cop.
Let's say President Trump did the attack, then of course, everyone was upset.
How dare he?
And then we have JD Vance, let's say a little bit like a good cop and also devote Catholic.
So I'm there with you.
But the question was the normal pro head in the first stance wasn't happy about it.
But I'm totally with you because I'm here in Croatia.
I'm happy that the Catholic Church in Croatia, not the Croatian Catholic Church, isn't as, I wouldn't say woke, but.
Yeah, let's say, Vogue, as in some parts of Germany.
So that people still can't do things like they try to do in Germany, like same gay marriages and whatever, this refugee welcome stuff.
And so, in this point of view, I'm still happy that the Croats have a normal stance in regards to the Catholic Church.
And because of this, they still have it.
I'm happy that this, let's put it this way.
I wouldn't say attacks, but what Donald Trump is doing, that the people here are still having fallen for what happened in Germany and other parts.
ben harnwell
Well, look, I know some Catholics are finding it, you know, they're finding it awkward, and they don't like having to choose between the president and the Pope.
They're going to have to.
And that's just, we've said on the war room since day one, since Pope Leo emerged on the Logia, that Leo is worse than Francis on a number of metrics, and he is worse than Francis.
The Vatican at the moment is using its spiritual authority to promote.
A globalist pro invasion agenda, and it's doubling down on that, and it's not toning down.
Therefore, it's absolutely essential for people and our, you know, that's why we talk to people across the European Union every Friday when we do this show that we build a network and alliance and support one another when someone pushes back.
You mentioned earlier the between the president and the vice president, a good cop, bad cop thing.
From my perspective, all I want to, I don't want to see good cop, bad.
I want to see bad cop, bad cop, and that all the time pushing back on the Vatican.
This, what I in the closing minute or two of the show, um, what I want to get from you, um, is some kind of understanding that homeland movement, the homeland movement, which we will call the Croatia's version of the AfD, um, it needs to be prepared, um, in a way that Giorgio Maloney has totally failed to do in Italy.
To be Catholic and to resist the Pope on the political agenda at the same time.
Now, Georgia Maloney came out and criticized Donald Trump and defended the Pope, and I think destroyed her credibility on that front.
Croatia needs to hold the line on this.
Tell me, just give me your final reflections on your optimism of whether Homeland is going to be able to do that in Croatia.
filip gaspar
Let's maybe close like this.
I mean, I can't talk for the Homeland movement and think.
I hope they will do it.
But as you said, the role of a Catholic, and I think exactly that's what you are talking about, is not to defend the Pope, because the Pope, of course, he makes mistakes.
It's to defend the faith, the Catholicism, especially because I'm here at the main square.
That's what the Croats were fighting for.
For example, my parents and other Croats from Bosnia and Herzegovina that are fighting for the third entity.
It's not what younger people can't understand.
They were supposed to.
They were suppressed because they want to express the Catholic faith, like making the cross, go Sundays to church, or tomorrow, Saturday, pray publicly the rosary, which is not harming anyone.
I think praying, praying, praying is good for us all.
So that's what I wanted to say.
What you also said is good.
We have to fight for Catholicism.
And I hope the home movement will do it.
unidentified
I hear some music.
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ben harnwell
We might have been losing you for a quick moment there.
I don't know if the signal's going to hold up.
filip gaspar
No, just social media.
That's why I'm.
ben harnwell
Okay, I think you're back.
Before you go, we're very grateful that you've taken time out for the conference to come and brief us about what's going on there.
The largest Catholic organization, Vigilare, holding its annual conference in Croatia.
Where do people go on social media to keep up with your analysis?
I know you're very active.
On social media.
filip gaspar
Gaspar slash Philip.
ben harnwell
That's perfect.
We've got that on the screen there.
That's Gaspar underscore Philip.
I'll read that myself.
I think we're just losing Philip at the very end.
Folks, Steve will be back in the chair at 10 a.m. tomorrow.
I'll be back on Wednesday.
My thanks to Will.
In Denver, a real America's voice, and of course, Vittorio Santifranco, who spent all week putting this show together.
Take care.
God bless, folks.
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