Episode 5175: More Deportations Of Illegal Voters; Stopping CCP Interference In US Elections
Wisconsin’s 23% poll support for local-federal immigration cooperation—even among 42% of Hispanics when Trump’s cash incentives are explained—contrasts Governor Tony Evers’ warnings of economic collapse, while deportations under Trump allegedly boosted wages by displacing 2.5M illegal workers. GOP candidate Tom Tiffany backs enforcement as CCP interference fears rise, with Lao Baijing activists Forrest and Roy Guo calling China an existential threat via media, capital, and election sabotage, urging a national emergency declaration ahead of April’s summit. Natalie Winters ties illegal immigration to corporate exploitation, wage suppression, and security risks like 1,504 Iranian watchlist entries under Biden, warning of potential WWIII escalation through Iran’s January trilateral deal with China and Russia. Meanwhile, Tax Network USA offers free IRS defense consultations until April 15th, saving clients over $1B in back taxes, while MyPillow promotes a factory sale amid broader calls to dismantle CCP influence and protect U.S. sovereignty. [Automatically generated summary]
Sensible Wisconsin Midwestern patriots demand law and order and immigration control.
Let me show you in the latest numbers, my polling from the Badger State.
We asked Wisconsin citizens, should state and local police fully cooperate with federal law enforcement on immigration by a plus 23% margin.
Wisconsin citizens say yes.
Among Hispanics, plus 29%.
We then describe the current Trump policy of offering generous cash incentives to illegals who will self-deport.
If they don't take us up on the offer, they are subject to deportation by plus 24%.
Wisconsin citizens believe in this policy.
Hispanics, plus 42%.
We also asked Wisconsin citizens if they want to imitate next door Minnesota when it comes to immigration policy and they don't want to follow that radicalism.
Only 27% want to be like Minnesota.
Only 28% of Catholics in Wisconsin, which is a deeply Catholic swing state.
So the verdict is clearly in.
We're going to protect our wages, our street safety, and our national security.
And this is a consensus opinion in a key swing state.
And Cortez, this is so powerful because it's Wisconsin.
It's not like Texas or Arizona.
And people seem to have forgotten this.
It's still central.
And you see up in Wisconsin.
You had the governor of Wisconsin on the other day and they catch him in the, I think, the Capitol.
And he's sitting there going, Trump and these people are in the deportation people.
If you actually had enforcement of our immigration laws, the economy of Wisconsin would collapse.
I mean, he said it like three times.
He's adamant about this.
Your data, the reason I love these polls, you're showing that the American people are paying attention to what's important.
It may not be in the headlines every day, and we need to reinforce that.
I can tell you down here, the situation where Sharia law, it was right below the surface.
We gave a permission structure to talk about it.
This is what people are talking about now.
It's motivating people to go to the polls.
The same with the H-1B visas.
So what's the lesson you're deriving from this information, particularly when you've got the governor out there saying the exact opposite and saying the economy will collapse?
By the way, real incomes have risen every single month that President Trump is in office.
That's in part because of sound economic policies, but I think the primary driver is about 2.5 million illegals leaving this country, most of whom were competing in the labor market unjustly, unfairly against American citizen laborers.
You take them away, guess what?
Wages for citizens go up.
Wages for blue-collar citizens go up even more than the overall trend in Wisconsin and everywhere.
Thankfully, Governor Evers is leaving office.
He is retiring.
We're going to have a wide open race to replace him.
On the Republican side, it's Tom Tiffany who takes immigration enforcement seriously, thankfully.
And the people of Wisconsin overwhelmingly agree with him, including, by the way, Hispanic citizens.
And I'd also point out, Steve, regarding this poll, I do my polling rigorously and scientifically.
This was not a great poll for Republicans overall.
The economic numbers, frankly, were pretty dismal.
So I was by no means using a sample where I was putting my thumb on the scale.
But on immigration, the people's will is clear.
And particularly when the Trump policy is explained to them, I think that's maybe the key finding that I learned is that a lot of Americans don't realize that generous cash incentives have been offered to every single illegal alien.
We will literally put money in your pocket, pay for the flight home.
You may legally apply later.
That's an incredibly magnanimous and generous offer from the American people to a lot of folks who have trespassed, who broke and entered into our homeland.
When that is explained to people that that's the policy, and if you don't take us up on the generous offer, you then get deported.
The support is overwhelming among Hispanics, as I pointed out there, plus 42% margin in favor of that Trump policy.
By the way, when that's explained, even to Kamala Harris voters, let me give you the data here.
Even among Kamala Harris voters, 28% actually support the Trump policy.
If it's explained to them, 28%, a third almost, of Kamala Harris voters in Wisconsin.
And I also put that, speaking of that same number, 28%, the reason I mentioned the Catholic part there, I think that's very relevant just today, because of course we know that the Conference of Catholic Bishops, unfortunately, issued an amicus briefing before the Supreme Court weighing in on birthright citizenship, something that the church has no standing to even talk about, has ever talked about in Europe.
All of the Catholic countries of Europe do not have birthright citizenship.
Few countries in the world have it.
So the faithful in Wisconsin are clearly in step with the America First vision on immigration and not with Catholic leadership vision on this very key issue.
So this remains a winning issue.
If you ask the questions in a fair and objective manner, a super majority of Americans are in favor of rigorous immigration enforcement.
Okay, given the debacle in Virginia, it looks like the Spanbergs will be able to drive through unless there's some amazing rearguard action takes place at 10 to 1 in Virginia.
Those counties, the Rio Grande Valley and South Texas that you fought so hard for are really the first person to come up and say, hey, I think these Hispanic citizens can actually be super MAGA, which they turned out to be, Stark County, et cetera.
President's going to Corpus Christiad because a lot of the establishments are saying, oh, you got to change the message.
Those three seats that kind of been created down there are going to, I believe, hold the fate of the republic in its hands.
I know you're going to go back down there, Steve, but what would be your message to people talking about that kind of those hard-bitten folks with tons of grit that are in South Texas and the Rio Grande Valley, American citizens, the Hispanic Americans down there, sir?
Yeah, by the way, it's an incredible part of the country, South Texas.
I've learned so much by going there several times for documentaries and other investigative work.
And one of the things I learned, for example, is there's some of the most faithful people in America, some of the most Christian, really just spirit-filled folks that you can find, whether it's Hispanic evangelicals or Hispanic Catholics in South Texas, intensely patriotic.
Many of them, most of them, have family members or close relations to them who actually work in Border Patrol.
It's a huge part of the population down there.
A lot of bad ombres defending the United States.
And here's my message for the power brokers in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere.
The ruling class right now is trying an end around.
They're essentially throwing a Hail Mary Pass and saying, this is our chance to get back immigration to where we want it, which is tolerating poorest borders.
And we're claiming that, guess what?
You're in political trouble with Hispanics because of the immigration policies of America First and President Trump.
The numbers tell us otherwise.
That is just not the case.
Now, are there vulnerabilities among Hispanic voters?
I think there are, but it's about the economy.
In other words, working class people, whatever their ethnicity, whatever their color, working class people are still very unhappy with the economy.
They have largely now transferred their economic angst from Joe Biden over to the Republicans as the governing party.
Now, again, I think there's a great story to tell, particularly about real wages.
I think we've got to be more aggressive at telling that, at selling that vision to working class people, including Hispanics in this country.
But that's the crux of the problem.
So don't fall for this nonsense from establishment Republicans who claim we're going to lose Hispanics over immigration.
The numbers actually tell us the exact opposite.
And again, the crux of it really is about real incomes.
If you want real incomes to keep growing, and that's the mother's milk of mainstream prosperity, it's real income.
If we want real incomes to keep growing, the best way to get there and to accelerate this positive trend is more deportations, more enforcement of immigration, more illegal workers leaving this country.
Please go to CortezInvestigates.com, Cortez with an S. All my stuff's there, documentaries, polling, everything.
My newest documentary features a guy named Steve Bannon as one of the, among other illustrious guests, one of the guests who made this doc really compelling about China's college takeover.
Speaking of China and the Chinese Communist Party, Forrest and Roy Guo join us now.
Guys, you've worked on this a long time.
Miles Guo, the new federal state of China and about the CCP.
It's been in the Washington Post story, and I believe in the NBC story about this executive order.
This is because people inside the government are saying they're going to roll out either next week.
And John Salma has done a great job.
And John will be back on Monday with us.
He's done a great job of exposing these things that are happening right now.
But there was foreign interference, and that foreign interference is the Chinese Communist Party.
This is something we've argued about for years in the 2020 election.
It's one of the reasons President Trump is now working on and drafting up an executive order.
It's calling for a potentially national emergency that has to be taken care of because the Senate's not moving on this bill.
Forrest, I'll start with you.
Is there any doubt, because you guys represent the Lao Baijing that is against the Chinese Communist Party?
And people kind of miss the fact when the Chinese Communist Party is talking about China, they're the greatest threat to the Chinese people.
They've killed the abortions alone are about 400 million, but the murders they've had is about 250 million or more.
They're the greatest threat.
The people they've killed more of in history are their own people, the Lao Baijing.
Your thoughts now on this emergency order that the president's thinking of putting out next week predicated in a big part about Chinese Communist Party influence and actually stepping into the 2020 election to get Trump out of office, sir.
First of all, again, this proves how important the URL and the Mao score is because we are talking about Chinese people does not equal to Chinese Communist Party.
And also you were talking about Chinese infiltration and Chinese 3F plans in the U.S.
This is the proof.
We are talking about over years.
Today we are just seeing the action.
And Roy yesterday used the correct word, control.
CCP is trying to control the election in this country.
We are talking about the media control, the capital control, the virus control.
Let's not forget that.
That's a very important part of the control.
And also the machine control, just the Sam just talked about the machine.
So CCP is controlling the election years before.
So today we are just seeing the President Trump putting the action.
What I'm saying is we do need more actions.
We do need more arrest who is stolen the election, who is undermining the election.
So we need more arrest, more persecutions, more consequences.
Today we are just seeing the action.
We also need to protect all the patriots like you, like Maos, like Peter Navarro and our mayor.
All you have paid the price for the actions you did, for the talk you talked years back to wake up the American, to tell the intelligence.
President Trump, when he came in office and was the one that was the toughest against China.
It was a big part of the 2016 election.
He had Lighthizer Navarre work for two years, for two years on a comprehensive economic deal that would fold the Chinese Communist Party into the world economy and take away all the cheating, you know, all the excess capacity, the state-owned industries, all the graph there, the ability to drive down wages throughout the world, the way to destroy other countries like they've just done with this $1 trillion trade surplus they got by dumping all these goods into Europe when President Trump finally got tough on him with his trade and said, we're not going to do this anymore.
When they rejected that in May of 2019, after two years of negotiation, in May of 2019, Wan Shi Shan and Xi said, no, if we do that, the foreign devils are going to be in control of us.
And so they basically said, no, they told the tech guys we want to decouple technologically.
And not just that, he then declared a people's war against the United States of America.
After that, you've got the pandemic, right?
And then when that didn't work, it was their direct involvement to steal the 2020 election.
Their path to get rid of Trump is quite obvious.
It's been an obsession with Xi since Trump came to power.
Roy, give me a minute here on this, and then we're going to hold you guys through the break.
But the Chinese Communist Party have been obsessed with make sure they can remove, unable to stop him first, they're obsessed with taking him out now.
Well, yeah, that's exactly why CCP fears you and fears Trump, because President Trump is the person of action.
Now we see all the actions that like CCP really fear.
And when these speak, words are nothing, right?
And also the intelligence that Miles Guo and you have been providing to President Trump, that's very important.
Don't forget about that.
That's not political commutation or like some information, some guessing.
This is top information and secrets from the top CCP level officials and in the military.
And it's been proven right all the time.
It's continued to be proven right.
And that's the reason why the CCPC is dreaming about putting you into prison again and to destroy Trump in 26 and 28 and then put him into prison and destroy all the people around him.
So that's the importance of this.
And we've been doing this since 2020 or even since 2017 when Miles first came out and talk about the minion machine, talk about the infiltration, talk about the control and talk about the unrestricted warfare.
So that's what we've been doing.
And now and today we see the action and we're so happy.
And I think that's why we need to celebrate.
And also we need to bring more actions to this to stop this from happening again.
I'm going to talk about what's going to happen next week in the next two weeks about the exposure of this with the summit that's going to come up in April.
Short commercial break.
back in the warm in a moment here's your host stephen k man welcome back Forrest, so it's been in the Washington Post.
It's been in the NBC report about this interference and what may come out.
Looks like it could come out in the next couple of weeks.
John Solomon's going to be back with us Monday, if not tomorrow.
And John's got a lot of breaking news on that.
Given that it looks like there could be some assertion of Chinese Communist Party influence or direct meddling in the 2020 election after the pandemic didn't work to drive Trump from office, they had to go this.
What would be your recommendation?
Give me a minute or two.
President Trump's got a major state visit tentatively scheduled, I think, for April.
They're trying to work through.
What would be your recommendation to him about this state visit with the Chinese Communist Party after it's exposed that they did try to and attempted to and probably had a big part in driving him from office illegally in 2020, sir?
Forrest, is there any doubt in your mind that the Chinese Communist Party is the existential threat to the Lao Beijing, the Chinese people, also to the United States of America and the American people, sir?
But, you know, it was Wendy Sherman, who was a senior State Department official under President Obama and an architect of the Iran nuclear deal of that era, who testified before the Senate at the time that DNA is, or excuse me, deception is in the Iranians' DNA.
Of course, she was speaking about the regime and not the people of Iran.
But so there are a lot of folks who have gazed upon President Trump's efforts to negotiate a new nuclear deal with Iran with some perplexity because, number one, after the strikes of last June, President Trump himself told us that the Iranian nuclear program had been obliterated.
And that's a very strong word with very clear meaning.
It means gone.
And yet now we have some need for a nuclear deal.
Well, how could there be a need for a nuclear deal if the entire program was obliterated?
And then, again, to that question of whether the Iranians will ever abide by the terms of a deal, negotiate faithfully towards a deal, just as the Obama administration understood, it's in their DNA to deceive.
And a number of columns recently have been written to the effect, and I think this is true, that there are different estimations or assessments on the part of the United States and its allies and Iran as to what success in a war or a limited military exchange might look like.
And for the regime, they would rather take the bombing campaign than give away their enrichment rights as long as the regime survives.
That's their number one goal.
It's unclear what the U.S. goal, the military objective in Iran for the United States, would be right now.
President Trump hasn't been specific about it, and there's some strategic value in remaining vague about your intentions.
But would it be simply, again, to inflict more damage on the programs of their nuclear apparatus or their missile capabilities, or would it be, in fact, regime change?
All of that is still in the air.
And as you say, all of it, Steve, is serious.
Chief Justice Roberts and Text-Based Rulings00:04:55
I thought of you in your magnificent book about Associate Justice Scalia the other night during the State of the Union when the president addressed the Supreme Court.
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Why is it now more than ever time to really get to know Scalia, particularly given some of the edge that the president has with the Supreme Court right now?
So everything you see, if you just do a 360, when you look around you, everything you see, every aspect of American life was touched, shaped materially by Antonin Scalia.
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Everything from race relations to free speech rights to the presidential election of 2000 that shaped the next 25 years.
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In the case of the most recent Supreme Court ruling from, I guess it was last week now, where the court ruled six to three against the lawfulness of President Trump's global tariff program, which he had predicated on a 1977 Emergency Powers Act that doesn't mention tariffs.
I think that even that decision to some extent bore the imprimatur of Antonin Scalia, because in crafting the majority opinion, Chief Justice Roberts went primarily first and foremost to the text of the 1977 emergency powers law.
That is a textualist approach, which was, of course, an approach that Justice Scalia championed and which was a fringe theory when he came along and has become dominant now.
And in looking at the 1977 law, Chief Justice Roberts noted that it didn't contain the word tariffs, which is another way, for example, that conservative judges and justices look upon abortion.
It's not mentioned in the Constitution, right?
So, and furthermore, Roberts said that the law actually states from 1977 only that the president may, in times of declared emergencies, quote, regulate importations.
So Roberts distinguished even breaking out the Black's Law Dictionary, which was another favorite trick of Scalia's.
I shouldn't say it's a trick, but a means of statutory construction, a tool of statutory construction.
That's how closely we were looking at text and language.
Roberts busted out Black's Law Dictionary to distinguish between a regulation, which is what the 77 law talked about, and a tax.
Very different, which a tariff, of course, is a tax on imported goods.
So in that textualist mold, one can see right there, Justice Scalia's imprimatur.
And the fact that the ruling went against a conservative president would also have been something that would have been Scalian in the sense that if you're really practicing originalism and textualism, sometimes the results will come up in a way that displease the honest judge.
In a word, through the force of personality of Antonin Scalia.
When Scalia became a federal judge in 1982, President Reagan appointed him to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, one rung below the Supreme Court, where his colleagues at that time included Ruth Vader Ginsburg and Robert Bork and Kenneth Starr, a real murderer's row of judicial talent.
There prevailed in a law in the early 80s in American law, a liberal notion called the living Constitution.
This is the idea that judges today should be able to expand the meaning of the Constitution or any law enacted since then to account for phenomena that the founding fathers could never have anticipated, such as the internet or nuclear weapons.
Scalia stood athwart all that.
The Constitution is neither living nor dead, he would say.
It is an enduring legal text.
Words have meaning and they don't change over time.
And if some judge is expanding the meaning of those words 10 minutes or 10 years or 100 years later, that's an activist judge enlarging his own power and violating the separation of powers.
Rather, Scalia said, we should always judges when they're doing their central business, which is interpreting the law and telling us what the law means, they should adhere to the original meaning of the Constitution or any statute enacted since then, the meaning it was widely understood to carry at that time, so as to respect the democratic will of the people of that time.
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Mr. Mayor, that if your paramount value that you care about is promoting and supporting democracy in the United States, a lot of these illegal aliens that you're importing into this country, the Democratic Party did for the last, I don't know, decades, about 10 million plus under Joe Biden, aren't exactly coming from countries that even have democracies, let alone some of them actually aren't even countries.
They're failed states enter places like Somalia.
I think we all know what happened in Minnesota.
I've never heard a more verbose and rambling answer to what should be probably the most simple thing that you could answer, that your primary duty is to defend American citizens.
I've also never heard Democrats uncritically bring up, I don't know, the Constitution.
I thought you guys hated that document.
But here's the issue, and here's what I would say, Piers.
Here's how I would freely reframe this entire discussion.
This weaponization of what it means to be an American, of immigration policy, we can all sit here and give our culture war definitions of what it means to be an illegal alien, immigration, legal terms, whatever.
The point is, the people, the reason why people are fed up with immigration and illegal immigration is because it's not actually about immigration.
It's about it is a scam that big businesses, all these donors that are funding all of those candidates and congressional members that you saw sitting at that State of the Union address, they just want cheap labor.
That's all they care about.
I'm sure that's all your donors care about.
And that's why you're seeing a degradation of American identity so corporations can suppress the wages of Americans.
Because if you look at the studies that Obama put out about wages, it's black Americans who are the most negatively impacted by the people who are in the world.
I guess I won't ever be flying out of the Newark airport again.
But that just shows you this individual, I think, frankly, a timely clip to play after your discussion with James Rosen.
The new Democrat cop that to them not being able to say they support American citizens over legal aliens is that their primary oath is to the Constitution.
Just like whenever you hear Democrats concerned about what is it, spending, that's why we couldn't have the border wall.
Well, the reason that they don't support American citizens over legals is the Constitution.
Well, it's because I think the Republican Party has never actually messaged well on immigration because we're just as bad as Democrats.
It's only because of shows like this and President Trump that we can actually have a movement that calls mass migration out for what it is in effort to replace American workers, American citizens.
I also think it's just sort of this weird projection.
Anytime you talk about immigration, anytime I bring it up, I get accused of being, I guess, at least a racist, at most a white supremacist.
And I think the point is, what I've sort of come to the conclusion firsthand of, is it's really just projection that supporting an immigration policy that is anything short of turning America like 100% non-white is racist.
And it's because they view immigration through such a racialized lens because they view it as sort of a weapon of mass migration, of demographic change, that wanting to say like, no, America actually wouldn't be America if it were filled with entirely Somalians is somehow this, you know, racialist gotcha moment.
It's like, well, no, America is America because it's filled with Americans.
And as we've seen, Somalians actually don't really like the American way of life because all they do is welfare shop and grift off of federal programs that are coming from the goodness of Americans' hearts.
I also think there's a clear national security threat to link this to what I know you wanted to talk about, which is what's going down in Iran.
I hope we don't get involved in another regime change war over there.
You know, regime change is always risky, but I think regime change after four years at least of an open border is just straight up reckless.
I think if you were to reverse engineer the type of border policy that foreign sleeper cells would want to be able to embed in the United States, I would look no further than what Joe Biden's DHS did under Maorcus.
And the numbers prove that.
There have been hundreds of known terrorist individuals on that watch list who came into the country under Joe Biden since 2021.
In 2023 alone, there were 169 encounters reported.
And the Biden administration or regime has actually not released the data, the specific numbers of how many of these individuals on the watch list have actually been released into the United States.
I think that's quite concerning.
And if you really hone in on Iran, to be specific, there were 1,504 Iranian nationals that were led into or that were encountered on the border over Joe Biden's four years, 729 of them at least being released into the interior of the country.
And the Trump administration is very aware of this.
You have CBP and DHS putting out notices telling law enforcement to be very alerted and concerned over the potential of Iranian sleeper cells.
I just think that this is another component that certainly needs to be evaluated as we're assessing what's going down in that region.
And I think if you see what's gone on in Ukraine, the sort of advent of not just drone warfare, but as you see these defense tech innovations, of course, the Chinese Communist Party is sort of at the vanguard at the tip of the spear on that.
They're, of course, deeply embedded in Iranian infrastructure.
They want nothing more than for us to get dragged into full-scale kinetic conflict.
Again, let's turn Iran into, you know, the second graveyard of empires, because I guess Afghanistan wasn't enough.
But I also think, too, when you take a step back, you have to look at the Iran stuff, just like we do through the lens of the Russia-Ukraine.
It's not just about that country, it's about the broader geopolitical world order and realignment.
And I also wanted to briefly get into this 2026 global catastrophe report that the World Economic Forum put out, where they talk about what crises the intelligentsia over there have planned for us.
Not that they're smarter than us, but these are the institutional power brokers who are exploiting these crises to expand control.
And some of the questions that they asked their panel of 1,300 experts was what does the world order look like beyond sort of short-term, long-term?
And basically, 96% of them said that it will not be United States-led.
68% expect a multipolar, fragmented order, 14% expect bipolar, 12%, 12% expect a new international order led by an alternative superpower.
And only 6% expect a reinvigoration of the U.S.-led rules-based international order.
That same cohort of so-called experts, a third of them believing that we're hurtling towards actual state-based armed conflict in 2026.
So when you look at, for instance, Iran, right, their air defense being basically all supplied by the Chinese, not only are we depleting our strategic advantages by revealing that we can just totally override that like we did in Midnight Hammer, but you're also risking actual kinetic World War III.
You can't treat Iran as an isolated country, not just from the economic involvement, right?
They just signed a trilateral agreement with China and Russia for hundreds of billions of dollars in January.
You already see China supplying intel, public, open source, but also more covert forms to Iran, giving them advance notice of anything the United States is doing.
So I just think this idea that you can approach Iran as an isolated country or incident is really misguided and we're playing with fire.
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