Episode 5166: Is The Admin Blocking AI Restrictions In Florida; Getting The Deportations Number Up
Stephen K. Bannon critiques media narratives and Trump’s 2026 State of the Union, where Democrats may boycott or heckle, while praising his 2015 meeting with "Angel Moms" to shift immigration policy. Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell reveals White House opposition to Florida’s AI Bill of Rights—banning AI child pornography and Chinese tech—despite Trump advisor David Sachs’ past support, leaving the bill stalled in committees. Mike Howell’s Mass Deportation Coalition pushes for expanding removals beyond criminals, citing Biden-era CBP1’s role in facilitating 10M+ illegal entries via IProve, a UK firm with ties to MI5/MI6 and NHS contracts, whose U.S. employee donated to Harris and AOC. Natalie Winters demands accountability, framing CBP1 as a deliberate national security threat tied to globalist and CCP agendas. Tony Lyons’s Make America Healthy Again movement targets Big Pharma and China’s alleged organ trafficking, with RFK Jr. leading legal action against systemic misinformation. Bannon’s segment ends with a live Trump SOTU preview, linking immigration, AI, and health crises to broader battles over governance and transparency. [Automatically generated summary]
Tuesday, 24th, February in the year of the Lord 2026.
So all day on Real America's Voice, we're covering the TF to the State of the Union, the State of the Union itself, also all the circuses that are going to take place around it as the Democrats.
I think now up to 25 senators are not going to attend.
They're doing everything to try to, first of all, they don't want to have to sit there and hear President Trump go through his record of what he's accomplished against all the converging forces in Washington, D.C.
They don't want to sit there and do that.
They certainly don't want to clap.
So the people that I think that remain, the House people, the Democrats, as it gets more and more radical, are going to, I think there will be a lot of heckling you watch.
I don't think there's going to be much decorum tonight.
And of course, the senators are already trying to get, and particularly guys running for president like Murphy and this crowd, are all trying to get out and make a big deal about it.
So we're going to cover the entire thing all day.
And Matt Boyle is going to join me at 5 o'clock.
Matt Boyle is going to have a very interesting day directly about the State of the Union.
He'll be able to talk all about that.
Plus, we are going to go through the Angel Moms again, because Matt Boyle was one of the central figures.
And the reason Trump is different than all of them, the Angel Moms in 2015, right after the Las Vegas debate, when President Trump was really just out of the gate, he started in June, remember, with coming down the escalator.
And then they had the debate in Las Vegas where Megan Kelly tried to ambush him.
She's made amends for that later, right?
And we at Breitbart, we just went after Fox.
We went after Megan Kelly.
We went after all of them and wouldn't back down, the great Tony Lee and Matt Boyle, my two six guns.
And then later, I think it was in early September, I believe right after that, maybe late August, President Trump met with the angel moms.
No politician had met with him.
Ben Carson wouldn't meet with them.
Ted Cruz wouldn't meet with them.
President Trump did, and it created a firestorm.
They had been involved and actually been at a rally for Brad.
It's one of the reasons Dave Bratt won the historic victory over sitting majority leader.
It never happened.
In June of 14 with the great Julia Hahn, the campaign was entirely Julia Hahn, who was like a night.
She was the Natalie winners of her day, went to the same prep school in LA, had gone to the University of Chicago, graduated in a couple of years, just like Natalie.
She was another genius.
She was just at Treasury as the Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs under Scott Besson and working with Alexander Priette and Rebecca Carabas over there.
And she just, she had a baby.
So she's taking a, she's taking a leave.
She was the producer of the Laura Ingram Show.
Dave Bratt's entire campaign was going on the Laura Ingram Show in the morning and coming on Breitbart radio on Saturday and Sunday.
And every day we write an article and Breitbart supporting him.
The Wilkerson, the mother of the young man, the high school young man that got tortured, beaten, tortured, set on fire while he was alive, burned to death, and then his body thrown into a dumpster.
She related that at a brat, just stood up from an audience related to a brat, I think, campaign rally in 2014.
I think it was May of 2014.
Remember, Brats come from behind victory.
Nobody heard of David Brad.
The first time, only time in the history of this republic that a sitting majority leader, Eric Cantor, part of the Young Guns, it was McCarthy, it was McCarthy and Cantor and Paul Ryan, the Young Guns, defeated him, defeated him on big time, a blowout.
The next day was supposed to be Zuckerberg.
You heard that name before?
They were coming up to Capitol Hill to have this big kickoff on an amnesty program.
It all got shut down because they realized we had made immigration and the border wall the number one topic.
And people said, why are these guys talking about it?
Business community and Fox News, they all want amnesty.
Paul Ryan, they all want the Young Guns all want amnesty.
That got put to bed because of the angel moms.
And yesterday, I'm so proud of this network.
Robin Parker Sig, the entire Real America Voice staff, our guys in Denver, Ben Berquam.
And Ben Berquam, our reporter, was not there as a reporter yesterday.
He was there as a guest, given the field reporting he has done to support the angel moms.
And yesterday, that ceremony, of which we're the only network not to cut away from, the very few that covered it, Fox and Newsmax cut away after the president's remarks.
And it was good enough they covered that because it was some of the most from the heart remarks President Trump's ever made.
But we sat there for the reading of the names, which was very powerful, the candle and just the voice and on the screen, their photos coming up.
And then for the singing of Amazing Grace by that military, that army choir.
President Trump was so moved.
I think President Trump had some remarks he was going to say at the end to sum it up.
He just waved and walked down the hall and went back to all the burden of being commander in chief.
This is what said for all his foibles, for all the things that were, he's not perfect, and these policy is not right, this policy is not right.
We're going to talk about here in a second on artificial intelligence, for all that.
If Trump had not won in 2016, we have lost the country.
Hillary Clinton, the globalist, had it, remember, Merrick Garland was nominated for the Supreme Court, but Mitchell Connell and the Republicans stopped.
They couldn't do it in an election year.
Hillary Clinton was going to pull his nomination, put in somebody more radical.
Merrick Garland, as bad as he is, was not radical enough for Hillary Clinton.
They would have controlled the Supreme Court.
They would have controlled the Senate.
They would have controlled the House.
And those mafia-like gangsters that Hillary Clinton and her husband are would have controlled the White House.
Just by divine providence coming from nowhere, Trump with all that.
And you now know with the phony Russia gate and everything against him is coming out in court.
And you're going to come out in southern this court in southern Florida, all of it to thwart him and to destroy everybody around him.
That's how providential this was.
And the angel moms are a central part of that.
President Trump was talking, remember when we went, President Trump is the only person to meet with them.
And why?
At that time, the first.
Why?
Because everybody else is a politician.
President Trump's not a politician.
He's a businessman and he's got a big heart, as you can see.
And he met with them, and that changed the direction of everything.
He listened.
It wasn't a politician trying to get like support.
He listened to their stories.
You see the impact it had on him.
Look at him yesterday.
That is one from the heart.
What did he say?
They gave me a speech.
I'm just going to speak from my heart.
And you saw it.
That's the power of Trump.
That's what people relate to.
That's what Hispanic, most of these people, the vast majority of things at the time were Hispanic American citizens.
The kids had been killed and some horribly.
And the rest were kind of white working class, so they didn't matter.
It's what had happened to this country.
The political elites of both parties, including the controlled opposition of the Republican Party, didn't want to address it.
Oh, that may make us look like we're nativists or xenophobes or racist.
We can't have that.
We can't go to the country club.
We can't go to the cocktail parties.
We're not going to be invited over to Georgetown.
We're not going to be invited to think great thoughts on meet the press.
We have to have a knitted brow and think great thoughts.
We're not going to have the opportunity to do that.
Trump didn't give a damn, did not care, did not care.
And that's why he won the Republican primary, and that's why he became president of the United States against all odds.
But there are things we obviously disagree with.
One behind the scenes and the biggest fight going on here, Elizabeth Troutman Mitchell.
So we have two Mitchells in a row, but there's no relation to Clito Mitchell, correct, Elizabeth?
We have two Mitchells back to back over the Daily Signal.
This is one of the most important things I think President Trump is going to address part of this.
So let's talk about artificial intelligence.
President Trump and his advisors around him, he's got this concept that we can't have any, nothing could be, we can't do any controls because we've got to beat the Chinese Communist Party.
And this is what David Sachs and these guys are convinced him of.
And he's all in for America being a artificial intelligence superpower.
And we understand that because we have to be a superpower in this, but there's abyss in front of you you got to watch for.
And so some of the states, and particularly a guy named Ron DeSantis, remember, there's nobody who was more negative on DeSantis when he had the gall to run against President Trump because President Trump had to win the Republican nomination.
We had to come back.
That's the arc of the story.
Of course, it had to happen.
And DeSantis has got some terrible advice.
But DeSantis, there's a philosopher that comes out and has two types of people: fox and hedgehog.
A fox is somebody scatters around a lot of different topics and covers a lot of different things.
A hedgehog is someone who just digs down on one thing and is immovable.
On this, Ron DeSantis is a hedgehog.
He is dug in on artificial intelligence big league.
And Ron DeSantis is not going to be moved on this.
So we have this whole concept, Elizabeth, of states doing their own deal, which presidents can't happen.
And the overall, just no regulation at the federal level, your reporting is amazing.
It's a true scoop.
DeSantis is dug in, and the people advising the president are not happy about that.
So the context here is that the White House Office of Science and Technology policy is going to put forth a national framework on AI.
And so anytime that a state, particularly a red state, passes a law limiting AI in any way, that kind of raises the bar for that national framework on AI.
And so we've seen the White House taking a stand against a couple of bills now that have limits on AI and particularly protections for minors.
We saw this in Utah last week with a bill that had child safety and transparency requirements, a pretty low bar in AI that the White House wrote a memo opposing.
And then now I reported that the White House has also taken a stand against a Florida bill, the Florida AI Bill of Rights, which, as you said, Governor DeSantis is responsible for.
And it was introduced in both the Florida House and the Florida Senate.
But what I'm reporting is that the White House has called the Florida Speaker of the House, Daniel Perez, as well as members of his staff and encouraged him to oppose this Florida AI Bill of Rights.
And this is something that the Perez's office has, in fact, opposed.
He has sent it to four different committees, and it's not looking likely to pass at this time, but we'll see.
This is a huge priority for Governor DeSantis and for really a lot of Republicans in the states because we know there are serious threats to minors posed by AI.
Some of these things that this bill did really are not very controversial.
There were limits on potential AI porn, explicit content that features minors made by AI that would be banned by this AI Bill of Rights.
There are parental controls in the AI Bill of Rights so that parents can make sure their children aren't having dangerous contact with AI.
Limits saying that AI cannot be a counselor or therapist online, and limits on Chinese-created AI being used in Florida government offices.
So a lot of this is pretty uncontroversial in DeSantis's AI Bill of Rights.
However, this is something that, like we've been talking about, would potentially raise the bar for that national framework on AI.
Elizabeth, given in the world of AI, we had some of the leaders of these different groups that Trump put together this coalition on last week.
They've had this nine days that changed the world that happened in February.
Everybody in the industry is talking about the fact that this is in the accelerationist staffs of safety folks are leaving because there is something going on in AI right now that's even ahead of where people thought it was going to be.
Things that would used to take two months are now taking two hours.
That this is accelerating accelerating rate and the most serious people about it are either quitting or sending up flares in the companies that we might have an issue.
Is that impacting the people around President Trump, like Sachs and these guys, are the ultimate accelerationists?
Is any of that concern filtering into the advisors around the president so the president actually hears this from his team of experts?
We know that a lot of people in this White House Office of Science, Technology, Policy do have connections to big tech.
We've talked before about there being connections to venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz and other big tech giants.
And so it seems like the position being taken by the White House is that they really do not want any state limits on this AI.
Something that's interesting here is that David Sachs has said in the past that he would not oppose existing state laws that have protections on children.
And this Florida legislation, Utah Youth legislation, not existing law yet, but those are bills that would protect children.
And despite this past commitment we've heard not to go after laws that protect children, that's something that we're seeing happen here.
I've just got a couple of questions about how much work is really being done on this federal regulatory apparatus.
I think right now the lack of clarity on that may be one of the things that are driving this.
Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
The real state of the union on Real America's Voice Tonight, you're going to get an entire evening of breaking this all down on the president's historic speech where he addresses the nation, probably for the only time between now and the midterms.
Okay, so make sure Elizabeth Mitchell is from The Daily Signal.
It's totally free.
We're blessed with having, you know, Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, Daily Signal.
You've got obviously Citizens Free Press, the aggregators, National Pulse.
You've got all these fantastic sites.
So just make sure it's part of your early morning media diet.
You'll get up to speed on everything.
Also, Mike Cowell's going to join us in a moment, the great Mike Howell, with a new initiative that is, I can tell you, attracting a ton of attention here in the state of Texas.
And he's from the coaching tree.
Rob Bluey, the Daily Signals, from the Coaching Tree of Heritage.
Howell's from the Coaching Tree of Heritage.
They've just done such a great job of also seeding these things that kind of go off and bloom on their own.
So, Elizabeth Mitchell, this story, and I want everybody to read it because this is kind of a smart way of inside baseball of people like DeSantis.
They're saying, hey, look, we got to get something.
One of the problems, Elizabeth, we stopped the AI amnesty bill twice, once in the Big Beautiful Bill, and then in the National Defense Authorization Act.
And the promise was, okay, okay, we understand we can't slide it in 9,000 pages.
We have to have a regulatory framework because what they wanted to stop was all these states coming up.
And I can understand that.
You know, it will get very confusing if you have states doing this all the time.
However, unless you get a framework that people can understand, particularly some of these central issues about children and creative.
And I think on the accelerationists and the frontier labs, what's happening, Pete, you're naturally going to have the Ron DeSantis of the world dig in.
So what is the status?
I think part of the confusion as you read your article is that we don't know what the federal regulatory framework is going to be.
And there's kind of been no visibility even about the process of getting this through.
Am I missing it or are viewers not getting it?
Is there a lot more work on that framework?
And has it been transparent at all coming from the White House and even up on Capitol Hill, ma'am?
I'm not sure about the status of this framework right now.
I haven't heard a timeline on it.
We had that executive order calling for the framework on, I believe, December 11th, but I don't think we've seen anything yet.
We do know Senator Marcia Blackburn is also working on a framework and says it's very important to have one national standard on AI, but she would definitely include more limits on AI for children.
She's very serious about that, as well as limits for national security.
She previously told me that big tech is knocking on her door every day, complaining about this framework that she's working on.
And so I think we have kind of maybe some differences between what the two of them would propose.
Folks, make sure you put the Daily Signal on your Rob Bluey and the team over the Daily Signal.
Put it on your morning media diet.
Mike Howell, some of the best people here in Texas have been coming to me and saying, hey, Howe has come up with this idea that's so brilliant and they're signing up for it.
Talk to me about the Mass Deportation Coalition, sir.
Yeah, so the best way to explain this is over the last year and really ever since President Trump made the bold campaign promise, number two on his list, to carry out the biggest deportation operation in American history.
And everyone had the signs of the convention, mass deportation now.
Well, the truth is, special interests in rhinos have from every moment since then sought to undermine that.
And it's had effects in the operational outputs of ICE.
And so at the end of last year, the numbers aren't officially out, but there'll be a couple hundred thousand deportations.
That's not where we need for mass deportations.
The Trump administration made a decision to focus on criminals, which raised the profile of the issue, proved the left will not be any bit reasonable anywhere that they oppose any and all deportations.
So that's the story of last year.
But due to basically the realtors, National Realtors Association going over to the White House, meeting with the speaker and the chief of staff, and there's an article in Politico.
It basically says from the realtors, if you keep deporting our illegal labor, we will turn South Texas blue.
And so that's a part of a larger pattern of money to interest, special interest lobbying the White House and DHS to stop deportations.
It's a flashpoint, an inflection point, a public note of what's been happening privately for a long time.
So we decided we had a belly full of it.
And people who care about the president carrying through on that promise, I know the president intends to, are getting together to represent American interests versus money special interests who want to see that campaign promise undone.
That's why we call our mass deportation coalition the roadmap to switch to phase two.
Phase one was the Trump administration's focusing on a small subset of criminal illegal aliens.
So legal aliens who have been caught committing violent crimes in the United States.
It's a small number out of the 20 million.
He's obviously gotten zero cooperation from the Democrat cities on that, besides some token efforts in Minnesota and elsewhere.
But at the end of the day, that's not going to get you anywhere near the 20 million or so President Trump estimates.
There's only about 500 to 700,000 criminal quote unquote illegal aliens.
So the operation has to expand.
And that's what groups are coming together to say.
And here's why it's so important.
At that Angel Mom, you know, event yesterday, which was so moving and important, many of the parents of children who were killed by illegal aliens, well, those illegal aliens, that was their first major crime they were caught for in America.
So that's another way of saying you cannot sit around and have an immigration policy that waits for an illegal alien to kill or rape or burglarize or rob someone.
That's a dumb immigration policy.
We need to open the aperture and get these people out before they create more angel families.
I'm sick of waiting around for these people to commit an additional crime in addition to their illegal entry before they are deported, but that's what special interest wants.
And so we talk about sanctuary cities and the jails, but we're not talking about sanctuary farms.
The killer of that girl, Molly Tibbetts, came from a sanctuary farm where Big Ad does not want enforcement.
And right now they have friends in the administration who are pushing that line.
I know President Trump needs to get the numbers up because he promised to be Dwight Eisenhower.
Dwight Eisenhower got about a third of the illegal population out in a year.
President Trump has a lot of different circumstances, but the numbers will come out to less than 5% of the illegal population last year.
And that's because the narrow focus.
And so we're here to say we got the president's back in carrying through the mandate.
Phase one was focused on the criminals.
That phase should end.
It was a good job.
It showed the left is not going to play ball.
This is a civilizational issue for them, just as it is for us.
Now's the time to put the pedal of the metal.
And so that's what we're here to do.
We got a playbook coming out on April 1st.
And it's not just, you know, think tank heads, although like there's many great groups there.
You got Eric Prince, a guy who can get it done involved in this.
You got Data Republican digging on the corrupt lobbying groups.
You got Mark Morgan, who led ICE and CBP under Trump 1, drawing up plans on how to get to at least 1 million this year.
And that's a baseline to get to many more millions after that.
And so if you're out there and you're in the posse, you're part of the group.
We want you.
It doesn't matter what your particular focus area is.
If you care about this, we need to show the moneyed interests, the corporate interests, those who want illegal labor.
There's the ones who are voices are being heard in D.C.
Well, the mass deportation, we're the voice for American interests.
First off, we could stop estimating pretty soon on how many self-deported.
The number is knowable.
It exists at DHS.
It could be released.
And so, you know, although my good friends over at CIS and elsewhere have higher estimates, I think the number is closer to a couple hundred thousand on top of the couple hundred thousand actual deportations.
So the policy is this: that we're suggesting: one, people will self-deport when they're worried about getting actually deported.
So the deportation number drives self-deportation.
Second, after that, you debank illegals.
You make it impossible for them to work and exist in the United States with comfort.
So it is in their interest with the threat of deportation and the inability to profit to then go home on their own.
And that's where Eric Prince and others come in on how to drive them out of our financial institutions, our insurance systems, what states can do.
I'd like the president to go back to Central Mass of why he's in the White House in the 10 years of his political career, that illegal immigration is destroying the United States of America and it still remains a civilizational issue.
I would love to hear him say that while progress has been made on criminals, now is the time to go pedal to the metal and to get the numbers through the roof, put both illegals on notice and then also their U.S. citizen defenders to expect millions of deportations in the years to come.
We stand in the coalition to have his back on that.
I mean, this is a youth-led movement as well.
College Republicans and the future of the Republican Party across the country are joining up.
We want you.
If you are out there, it doesn't matter if it's a rotary club, if it's the local flea market.
It does not matter.
Your group, we want you on.
Go to them, ask why they're not part of the mass deportations coalition.
Join us.
We're on X at phase two deport because we need the Trump administration to go to phase two to get some commas in the deportation numbers.
In other words, into the millions to save America.
Chris and Russo in Strong Borders Texas opened up the dam.
We also have a ton of college Republican groups joining, many more to come.
And this is what we need.
You look at kind of Congresswoman Salazar and her industry-friendly amnesty bills.
They have hundreds and thousands of names and millions of dollars behind it.
Well, we are going to have the second part, but we need all of the groups strength in numbers to show DC the American interest should reign supreme over whether some lobbyists get some cheap labor for their industry, not at the expense of our homeland.
Natalie Winters, providentially, you've got an article, another one of Natalie Winters' amazing investigative reports about one of the reasons, the tech reasons we got into this mess, explain to people about our favorite app of what organized the mass invasion in our country, particularly deep into the heart of the United States, ma'am.
Well, look, Steve, I've been told immigration is wonderful, right?
And anytime big tech helps America advance, you basically never hear Democrats or frankly establishment Republicans unable to bite their tongue and preach the wonderful nature of all of that.
Well, I guess when it comes to CBP1, that's not the case.
You know, I am a very well-seasoned investigative reporter, but it always struck me as curious that CBP1, the app that was, of course, responsible for the streamlining and orchestration of the 10 million plus illegal alien invasion that we saw under Joe Biden.
It wasn't really something that Joe Biden touted, right?
As a huge accomplishment.
And the document showing the contracts, the people who helped develop it, it's a pretty faceless app, right?
You'd think the person who created that would really want to take credit for it.
So I did some digging and I looked into the contracts of what companies, what people actually provided the technical apparatus to enable, like I said, at least 10 million illegals be streamlined into the interior and certainly the border of this country.
And Rhodes led me to a very bizarre place, which is the United Kingdom.
A company that you've probably never heard of, I don't really think these documents are ever supposed to be unsealed or get out called IProve is based in the UK.
From a cursory glance and a deep dive too, they're basically staffed by foreign nationals, all of British origin, a lot of them having former government experience, including, but not limited to working at the Ministry of Defense.
But this is the company that provided the biometric software that enabled CBP1 to basically be functional, to be used, which I think is really curious, right?
Given its foreign ties, if you dig into the CEO, he was actually appointed a commander of the Order of the British Empire by Queen Elizabeth II.
There's some very interesting foreign ties, which I think if you go back to a foreign government essentially being able to control this application, that seems like a national security threat from the start.
But also, even if you take the conspiratorial framing out of it, though I do think that is a valid concern, this company also has extensive contracts with the British government.
They're semi-responsible for running the NHS.
They also essentially run, at least from the biometric perspective, the UK's immigration system post-Brexit.
And I think we've seen how that managed way too many Islamic refugees taking over that country.
Also, worth noting on this, like I said, company that's responsible basically for CBP1 being able to operate, they do have some American employees.
One in particular is a Democratic donor, repeat multiple times to Kamala Harris, also AOC.
So I just think this gives you some insight into CBP1, really helping us understand the 10 million people who, at least, who came into this country.
I mean, they're all criminals.
They should all be let out.
But I think also too, that the people who let this invasion happen, though it certainly predates Joe Biden, they're probably not the same people that we should be taking lectures from on how to implement border security.
The same people telling us that ICE agents need to wear body cameras when they're the ones that are using surveillance, not just to allow 10 plus million illegal aliens in, but also routinely voting to obstruct the inclusion of cameras at the border.
So if you want to read the whole piece, which I encourage people to do, you can go check it out at my substack, which is nataliegwinters.substack.com.
When you say a guy's been knighted by Queen Elizabeth and Department of Defense over there, it jumps off the page when I read this thing, MI5, MI6.
Are you basically asserting that British intelligence was part of the contract to build this thing and that was never disclosed to people on Capitol Hill or people in the defense budget or people that this was withheld?
This information was withheld from the American people, ma'am?
I think where I always go to with these stories is that why aren't they forthright with it, right?
Why aren't these contracts so out in the open?
This company's received millions of dollars.
It's harder to find any detail about this company or the fact that they were even involved in CBP1 than basically any other contract that I've ever dug into.
And I think it goes back to what I started this segment with, which is CBP1 should be one of the proudest accomplishments, right, of the Biden regime, not just from a sadistic perspective.
It helped them destroy the country at a warp speed rate, but also just from a technological perspective.
They should be screaming about how effective it was and they should be lambasting the Trump administration for shutting it down.
And frankly, Steve, I think this gets to what you were talking about with Mike Howell, which is, I know, I think, where you want to go with this conversation, but it's what does President Trump need to talk about on the immigration issue with the state of the union?
You can't treat what happened, take CBP1 as an example, as a happy accident or a humanitarian win.
It was all orchestrated.
It was all by design.
And to reframe what happened to this country on the immigration or economic front to something that was the result of four years of Joe Biden, I just think doesn't do justice to what I would call, like President Trump did, you know, in Davos, what was it, a few years ago.
We will not surrender, you know, to the false flag of globalism.
This is about people like Joe Biden, the globalist world order, the Chinese Communist Party, which we seem to have gone a little soft on, all colluding to make America unlivable.
It's not just that the price of eggs is too high or that, oh, by happy accident, you can't afford a home.
It's intentional.
And I think that I would just encourage President Trump: when you use the term enemy within, they freak out because it's true.
And I'm not saying use that term, though, personally.
I do love that term.
It literally's like, I love retribution and I love mass deportation with an emphasis on mass.
But I think this sort of watering down of who the real enemy is to the American way of life, the American people, is not MAGA, is not America first.
It's not just a Joe Biden problem.
That's a limited hangout and reframing who we need to go after with the deportations.
I worry that President Trump is repeating, I think, the mistake of the Republican autopsy in 2013, where they said the way to winning was to going soft on immigration and trying to be a welcoming tent.
Well, if you turn America into too welcoming of a tent, it's not going to be America anymore.
By the way, your work on a previous British company related to the pandemic when you crushed 60 Minutes with your great investigative reporting is still legendary.
Last thing, you've been at the tip of the spear of your investigation.
If I had to tie it all together, you've been the one that's been sitting there going, not just yelling and talking about theoretically the color revolution.
You've been showing the details of how this has come together.
What would be your recommendation or what are you looking for the president to say about the color revolution and about actions of taking down the deep state, of taking it down brick by brick?
What would you like to see the president say tonight or what do you think he needs to say?
Well, look, Steve, I think President Trump has said what we want to hear.
I think he has talked about the color revolution.
I think we have seen him go after the clearances and business contracts and livelihoods of the people who are involved, the Norm Eisens of the world, the Mark Zaydes.
I think the difference, and I think where that sort of chasm lies in the same frame of the mass deportations is the action, right?
We don't need to be told something tonight if it's not actually going to happen.
I know we've heard a lot about Act Blue.
We've heard a lot about lawfare, but I would like to see, I don't know, I was hoping for dozens, but I would settle for one, you know, actual criminal charge, actual prison sentence.
Of course, I love full transparent investigations.
That's how you get to the bottom of things.
Like, I don't know, who created CBP1.
But I would just really encourage actual accountability, not just more talking points, because we're not Trey Gowdies here in MAGA.
We don't want more Benghazi commissions or even the commissions we saw last Congress that did nothing, right?
We don't need the select committee on China that puts out a lot of strongly worded statements, yet the Chinese Communist Party is taking over the world.
As we know it, I'm so glad we're, you know, writing our own eulogies.
I guess that's maybe what we can start referring to these strongly worded letters as.
So I don't really care about the rhetoric.
I care about the actions.
And he needs to go after these groups like the not just foreign funded, but the domestic terrorist organizations that they are subpoenaing more people, going after Act Blue, going after the left-wing foundations that finance them.
And I might add that Norm Eisen is in court on Friday at this trial that may take place on the evidence of getting, it's unbelievable that Norm Eisen happens to be down arguing in this trial, trying to get the ballots back and trying to get the tabulars back from DNI, the ballots from FBI.
I've got to say, Steve, Norm's looking a little weathered.
I've seen him on TV lately.
He's not looking too good.
George is keeping it up, keeping him up late at night.
You can go to NatalieGwinters.substack.com, read all the articles, got a new one about Fauci headlining a big pharma conference where all the pharma giants that did COVID vaccines and test kits are speaking there.
Yeah, I think that, you know, he should say, and it's been clear, you know, by the people who he's put in place, by the team that he's put in place, that he wants to end the chronic disease epidemic in this country.
And that, you know, he's going to take steps.
He's going to keep on taking steps and that we're going to have more and more wins.
And that this is one year and we've had so much progress, you know, so much that's changed.
You know, over the last 20 or 30 years, we've become the sickest country on the planet, you know, of any of the industrialized countries in every area.
And that's starting to change now, but it's a disgrace.
And you can't have a powerful country.
You can't have a great country unless you have a healthy country.
Tony Lyons, who was basically the titular head of, or the head of Bobby Kennedy's presidential run, is now one of the leading lights in the Make America Healthy Again movement, which is a massive coalition partner with MAGA.
This is how we win.
And this is going to become so important in the run-up to the midterm elections.
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So the Tony Lyons, the Thursday, I want to make sure Thursday, and we're going to cover this, Thursday in Texas, the eve of President Trump's trip here, we have a complete huge event of Make America Healthy Again.
Just give me a minute on that, of what we can anticipate.
Yeah, that's going to be the beginning of a national tour of big events all around the country where they're going to be, you know, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000 people with Secretary Kennedy talking and telling the American public what's been going on, what hasn't been covered in the news, that we are working day and night, that HHS has been laser focused on handling every aspect of what it takes to end the chronic disease epidemic in America.
And it's a complicated sort of system that has to be broken down and then rebuilt, that we've been lied to for a generation and that we can do better.
And that this is the tour to tell the American people that they've been lied to, the steps that are being taken to get the truth out and steps that they can take to improve their lives.
So we're going to cover this and all the issues around it, including big pharma, big ag, and the food processing industries, which I think they're getting ready to sue, that are some of the strongest institutions in this country and one of the most powerful.
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Natalie just talked about the Chinese Communist Party.
My understanding is going to be amazing and shocking information about their involvement in trying to guide and steal elections in this country.
You've got a book that's coming out that's a landmark from, I guess, Collective, we've got a book coming out that's a landmark that I wrote the Ford for.
Yeah, I mean, I have two books that I want to describe, but I would like to start off by saying that, you know, during this period, whether it's food or anything else, whether it's food, pharma, ag, the government over this entire, over a generation has been lying to us.
And they've wanted to control what we think, what we do, what we put into our bodies, and then what we read.
And that this is a way of controlling us.
And in a time of deceit, telling the truth becomes a kind of a revolutionary act.
And that that's what these two books are, that they're dangerous, they're disturbing, they're uncomfortable, they're thought-provoking, and they're going to encourage you to challenge the status quo.
And as a publisher, I mean, I've read thousands of books over the last 25 years.
And I can tell you that these two books are revolutionary.
That one of them is Gavin DeBecker's Forbidden Facts.
And it's a book that will change your life because you're going to see time after time where the Institute of Medicine, where different branches of government have lied to you about things that are the building blocks of the way you see the world.
So you can't read Gavin DeBecker's Forbidden Facts and not just change the way you see the whole world.
And clearly, you know, the deep state doesn't want you to read it.
Big Pharma doesn't want you to read it.
Big Ag doesn't want you to read it.
This is a kind of a forbidden book.
These are forbidden writings.
And we need people to read these books so that they can start to see the world clearly.
And so the other book is Jan Yekalik's Killed to Order.
And I've done books about organ trafficking.
I've done books about China, but this is at a whole different level.
Jan Yekalik's Killed to Order, it will help you understand China and it will shock you to the bone.
So he explains so deeply after 20 years of research that this country, that these people are fundamentally evil.
And you read this book, you read about organ trafficking in this book, and you will read, you know, you will know that the things that you heard under Biden, for example, but under all kinds of presidents, that they were lies, that the Chinese government isn't trustworthy.
These are not good people trying to do the best for their own country.
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