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Feb. 24, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5164: Cartel Violence Continues In Mexico; Fight In Virginia Heading To The Midterms

Episode 5164 dissects Trump’s military threats against Iran, where General Kane’s alleged opposition clashes with his past "midnight hammer" strike and $2.5M Democratic ads in Virginia backfire after Spanberger’s gerrymandering plan faces 8-point grassroots rejection. Meanwhile, MAHA’s Tony Lyons pushes anti-vaccine, pesticide reforms amid 76% chronic disease rates, and MyPillow’s Lindell targets the "war room posse" with 80% off clothing—all ahead of Trump’s Texas rally on 27 February 2026, where midterm tensions simmer. [Automatically generated summary]

Participants
Main
c
curt mills
06:18
s
steve bannon
r 19:41
Appearances
b
ben bergquam
00:31
d
david nino rodriguez
03:27
d
donald j trump
admin 00:51
j
jeff ryer
r 02:38
m
mike lindell
r 01:32
o
oscar ramirez
03:43
t
tony lyons
03:37
Clips
a
allyson phillips
00:13
e
ethan curreri
00:24
j
jody jones
00:12
l
laura wilkerson
00:08
m
marie vega
00:14
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Speaker Time Text
Angel Families' Tributes 00:04:38
ben bergquam
I'm going to be joining angel families who have had their family members killed by illegal aliens, and today we remember and celebrate them.
david nino rodriguez
Good morning.
unidentified
Welcome to the White House, right this way.
donald j trump
Throughout this hall, I am joined by heartbroken Americans who have lost parents, siblings, children, grandchildren, and treasured loved ones to the scourge of illegal immigration.
Lacan Hope Riley went out for a run.
Lakin was viciously attacked, brutally beaten and murdered by an illegal alien gang member.
allyson phillips
If you've lived the nightmare that we have lived, you understand the importance of the job that he's doing and securing our nation because this could be any family.
This happened to my family.
This could be any one of your families.
ethan curreri
While serving the New York City Police Department, I personally arrested Jose Ibarra for endangering the welfare of a child.
A few months later, I saw his face again in the news after he viciously murdered Lake Miley.
I did my job.
I put him in custody.
The system failed.
We owe it to you and every American family to enforce our laws, secure our border, and protect innocent lives.
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Katie Abraham, Chad Astrup, Austin Babcook, Megan, Elizabeth Ida, Boss, Jesse Bird, Liam Cantu, Michael Clayton, Gail Clayton, Sander Cohen, Pierce Corcoran, Ronald Da Silva, Jackson Davis, Christopher James DeLeon, Joseph DiTomaso, Marshall Dove,
Brady English, Shaley Estes, Lacey Marie Ferguson, Maura Garrity, Tristan Gray, Kayla Hamilton, Aaron, Joshua Hampton, Brady Heiling, Suzanne Hine, Hallie Helgeson, Kyler Holbein, Gregory Homola, Gabriel Kalechi Isiguzo Jr., Rocky,
Paul Jones, Shane Jones, Stephanie Kaufman, Haley King, Amy Cortling, Ryan Long, Brian Moss, Robert Maupin, Lisbeth Medina, Brandon Mendoza, Brandon Michael, Dominic Montoya, Jonathan Moody Jr., Ruben Morphin, Rachel Morin,
Christia Odette, Nicolae Osukin, Rocco Petro, Lakin Riley Grant, Ronabek, Matthew Russell, Carla Santiago, Danielle,
Nikki Shermock, Fred Schlosser, Tiara Stansberry, Joseph Story, Timmy Tarnowski, Brian Terry, Anya Varfalomiev, Javier Vega Jr., Joshua Aaron Wilkerson, Carlos Wolf, Joseph Zhang Jr.
marie vega
My husband, Javier Sr. was shot in the back.
Remember you all?
Children were there fishing with their friends and they just kept shooting.
You could hear the bullets just whizzing past you.
laura wilkerson
Our youngest son, Joshua, was brutally beaten, tortured, strangled to death, and his body set on fire.
jody jones
Democratic politicians stand up on these podiums and say how sorry they are for seeing these criminal illegal aliens being ripped apart from their families.
unidentified
What about us?
jody jones
What about the American family?
What about us?
donald j trump
My administration will do everything in our power to end the scourge of sanctuary cities once and for all.
They protect criminals.
Why do people fight?
They protect criminals with a vengeance.
They fight for these criminals like murders, protecting murders.
They fight for them so hard.
I can't, there's something wrong with them.
The Fluid Situation 00:15:55
donald j trump
So I'm going to go sign the proclamation.
ben bergquam
On behalf of the media, I just want to apologize to the angel moms and dads for the fake news media out there.
Even today, that cutaway while the names were being read.
How disgraceful.
How disgraceful.
If anyone we should be honoring, it's the American citizen, law-abiding American citizens who have paid the ultimate sacrifice, lost their family members to people that should have never been here in the first place.
Tell their stories.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Monday, 23 February, year of our Lord, 2026.
And that event at the White House this morning, as I said on the morning show, was one of the most moving events that I've ever participated in and or covered, I guess, at the White House all the years we've been doing this.
And President Trump, I think, was moved enough that he was moved enough that he, I think at the closing words, after they read the names with the candle there and after they had Amazing Grace, that President Trump didn't even have closing words.
He kind of waved to the crowd, thanked them, and then went about.
Of course, he's got a very busy day.
We do too.
We have tons of reports from Mexico and what's happening down there.
But I want to first say, I think I've got Kurt Mills.
Let me bring Kurt Mills up.
We are going to have another cold open at the beginning that talks about Iran and all this.
But Kurt, now that I've got you, the president's weighing, you know, war or peace, diplomacy, or kinetic warfare.
A major story broke in, because you've been telling us the entire time we follow your Twitter feed.
You're saying, hey, look, this thing is very fluid.
It's very flexible.
Tucker is in the White House today.
I'm sure they're talking to Tucker about this situation with this interview he had with Huckabee, particularly that I think we're pretty cognizant of the fact that Turkey, Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia are very upset about Huckabee's assertions in that interview, as they should be since, and look, as you know, we're not big fans of Qatar and don't really trust the Turks, but like it or not,
the Board of Peace has met and they are, one is supplying security for Gaza, the other is underwriting it.
It kind of is what it is.
President Trump's made his decision.
His team's made a decision that's moving forward.
But there was an explosive story that came out in Axios just a couple hours ago.
This is where Raisin Kane, the general, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of President Trump has tremendous respect for because not only is the architect of the expeditionary raid that ended the 12-day war, he's also the architect and the executioner both of the Venezuelan raid situation.
President Trump has tremendous confidence in General Kane.
And this led from the ISIS war where they destroyed ISIS in about 90 days to four months.
When people say it would take a generation, Kane was really the tip of the spear that took that down.
President Trump's got tremendous respect for him.
It's now coming out of the administration and the Pentagon has not been denied that General Kane is not simply not for this attack, he's actually against this attack for a number of logistical and geopolitical and political-military reasons.
Kurt Mills, where do we stand in this very fluid situation?
curt mills
Extremely fluid.
I do think you're right to flag that it's a game changer that the military, the leadership of the military has signaled that they are potentially against this attack.
And so I think this is a major watershed.
It's, of course, not unprecedented in American history and military history for leaders to overrule the military, but it's not the greatest litany of historical examples from World War II on, basically, of civilians thinking they can outsmart the field marshals.
And so this is a major game changer as this massive, really, I don't say unprecedented, but unprecedented in recent decades, Armada is right outside of Iran.
At the same time, there are a number of machinations going on.
The Iranians are set to meet again with the U.S. delegation in Geneva at the Omani Embassy in Switzerland on Thursday.
And of course, President Trump is giving his State of the Union speech tomorrow night.
And, you know, the call for action, the call for military strikes could in theory come at any moment, including, you know, I can't help but notice that just short of dawn, Tehran time is the exact same time as the president's address tomorrow night.
So obviously a lot is going on.
I think the preponderance of evidence suggests that the president is quite tempted by this first strike maneuver, basically a limited strike, quote unquote, a cosmetic strike, quote unquote, and that he thinks that that could increase his chips at the bargaining table.
The problem is the Iranians may just walk away from the bargaining table.
And then additionally, you have to remember from the Iranian perspective, they think that they have been prudent and cautious and conservative throughout their dealings with Mr. Trump.
They did not really avenge Qasem Salamani in 2020.
They did not really avenge the 12-day war in June 2025.
And their hardliners are just more and more ascendant.
And they, I think, if there's any strike on Iran, will push back and push back very hard on Israel and American assets in the region, additionally, commercial assets straight up from use.
steve bannon
Yeah, how do you, I think one thing I have posited that unless the Ayatollah and the Mullahs get serious, I just think knowing President Trump as a deal maker, he's a guy that wants to be in the room looking at and to make the deal, right?
To know that we're going to Geneva, and Trita Parsi said this the other day.
He's begging for it.
To know that right now, Kushner and Witkoff are going to sit in one room.
The lead negotiators for the Ayatollah is going to be another room.
And you're going to have guys from Oman or Switzerland going back and forth passing notes.
President, at some point in time, President Trump, if they don't agree to sit down, that's where I think you seek what I call coercive diplomacy, where he says, hey, maybe I got to give somebody a love tap here to see if they're serious.
Because if they're not going to get even in the room, this is not a serious negotiation.
Kurt Mills.
curt mills
Yeah, so what you're referring to is these indirect negotiations where they're ostensibly in different rooms, even though they're meeting in the same building.
It's this sort of goofy kabuki for the benefit of basically of the hardliners in Iran who say that direct negotiations are a concession and the U.S. hasn't met that criterion.
I think, look, these are, you know, typecasts here, but these are sort of highly bureaucratic, old-schooled, old-world, you know, almost Soviet-style societies in the way that their diplomatic cores work.
And I think you've seen the president's impatience, frankly, be a stumbling block on resolving the disputes in, say, Russia.
The Russians are not altogether that dissimilar to this, but also the North Koreans.
There wasn't an enduring deal in turn one, especially because there is this bureaucratic kabuki that Trump himself, the president himself, says he has no patience for.
He said it last spring.
Why does the Iran deal need to be 30 pages?
It could be one page.
I do think to the Iranians' objective credit, they are trying to circumnavigate it.
The foreign minister Arashi appeared, I think, very sagely from his perspective on Morning Joe last week, making a direct appeal.
You've seen Arashi make other appeals on Fox News, just giving them a sort of visibility.
Because again, for Iran, for most people, and like, look, this is a theocracy.
These are hard dudes, but they're a black box of sort of Islamic terror.
And once it's personalized, I think it makes it a lot harder to go to war with them.
And then finally, you have to remember, these aren't the only negotiations going on.
The sort of Aminance Greece of the Iranians, this person, Laranjani, and the Times had a long piece, but on what has basically been known for a while, this is the potential Iranian man on the white horse.
This is the second most important person in the country at this point.
And he is back in Oman later this week.
He's meeting with the Russians.
There's a potentially entirely separate track.
And we know how much President Trump kind of finds the glamour of people like Erdogan and Putin and respects them.
If they were to get involved in a major way, because this guy, Laranjani, has been meeting with the Turks, have been meeting with the Russians, I think that's a potential game changer.
So it's very, very hard to say.
I do think all things being equal, Trump wants to do this first strike, but the risks of it are pretty considerable.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
I just want to hold you for the break for a minute.
It's a very fluid situation.
Raising Kane, the Axio story today, very, very important story.
Effective, we can get Denver to put that up.
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Kurt Mills, this is an incredibly fluid situation.
A lot of people are trying to put Trump pressure on Trump, but this is defining for your term, your administration.
Some of the people that are the most rabid, and I would say rabid about this attack should study what's going on in Mexico.
Mexico is a war that we have to win.
That's a failed narco-state on our border.
It's got to be taken care of.
I got two, I got Oscar and David and David Rodriguez Niño going to join us here in a moment.
The fluid situation, I just happen to think that when you hear, given the fact of how President Trump, how highly he places his military advisors in the uniformed military in this entire situation, and particularly since we've had two expeditionary efforts in both June and then later with Venezuela, that turned out, let's be blunt magnificently,
that in General Kaine's time of taking down ISIS in less time than he said, those three things put General Kaine at a very special level with President Trump.
This article today is saying not only it kind of implied, not only is he not for the attack now, he's kind of against the attack unless unless certain things clear out of the way.
In that regard, do you think the Persians are going to not become the stumbling block in getting to a diplomatic solution?
This is my problem.
They're so bureaucratic that the way they negotiate is mind.
And Trump is just not, that's just not Trump.
He's going to want to set a framework and get a deal, or not get a deal.
He's going to say no games.
Okay, we'll just move on.
Your thoughts?
curt mills
Look, I think that there's reason for hope.
The fact is that Trump could have struck the Iranians in mid-January.
He did not.
Trump could have struck the Iranians two weekends ago.
He did not.
There has been a delay for a reason.
So Contra, the abduction of Maduro, Contra, the 12-day war.
It wasn't a sudden military maneuver.
If it happens now, everybody will know it'll be highly telegraphed, which is another reason not to do it in theory, right?
I mean, the enemy knows it's coming, so to speak.
I think there are people in the administration that are invested in a diplomatic off-route here.
I don't fully know their politics, but people like Witkoff and Kushner, I think, have been pragmatic additions to this team.
And I think, although the Iranians have constraints, the Supreme Leader is a hardcore guy.
He's very distrustful of the United States.
There are able operators within their system to come to a deal and a deal that I think is going to be considerably better than Obama's JCPOA.
And as I've indicated on this show before, if Trump gets it done, this is the thing that can get him a Nobel Peace Prize.
I mean, the Russia-Ukraine deal, any deal there is going to be highly unpopular with liberals and with Europe.
But if he gets this done, if he flouts, if he ignores Benjamin Netanyahu and he ignores the Israel lobby and he gets this deal, it's Nixon goes to China.
steve bannon
It's that level.
I agree.
Kurt, where do people follow you on social media?
You are putting up amazing content all the time.
curt mills
Yeah, you can find me at at Kurt Mills at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X and the magazine.
I am the executive director of the American Conservative magazine, founded in 2002 by conservatives, including Patrick J. Buchanan, against the Iraq war.
And we are doing reporting, analysis, and spirited polemics against the potential new Iran war.
steve bannon
Spirited it is, sir.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Appreciate the whole group over there.
Cartel Reaction Uncertain 00:14:57
steve bannon
Let's, by the way, if Grayson Mo and Elizabeth can make sure we get the Axio story up and out, everybody read it.
It's totally free.
Be very enlightening.
We have a cold open.
I have Oscar Ramirez and David Rodriguez.
Let's go ahead and play this.
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Fire, smoke, and chaos across several Mexican states.
Cities brought to a standstill as criminal groups retaliate after Mexico's most wanted drug leader died following a military operation Sunday.
Blocked highways, drivers forced out of their cars at gunpoint, trucks and buses set on fire.
Nemesio Oseguera Cervantes, a former police officer known to most as El Mencho, was the leader of the Jalisco New Generation cartel, wounded during a Mexican military operation and later died while being transported to Mexico City.
The U.S. played a role in Sunday's operation, according to U.S. defense officials, though it's unclear to what extent.
As fear spread, many Mexicans spoke out calling for an end to the violence.
People are aware of this violence, and what they want is peace, to live in harmony and justice, not in war.
Blockades were reported across various states, and classes were suspended in at least three states as officials tried to contain the violence and keep civilians off the streets.
I'm tired of seeing this continue every single day.
Under El Mencho's command, the cartel expanded rapidly, challenging rivals like the Sinalua cartel for control of territory and trafficking routes.
According to U.S. and Mexican officials, El Mencho managed to avoid capture for years.
His attention and death is one of the most significant blows to organized crime in recent years and the first high-profile operation under President Claudia Chamo.
The fall of El Mincho may mark a major security milestone, but with tourism, foreign investment, and security for the 2026 World Cup at stake, the world is watching how Mexico handles what comes next.
steve bannon
So, Oscar Blue Ramirez, how does Mexico handle what comes next?
There's this whole controversy of the big resorts in Proto-Villarta, some of the nicest resorts in North America, where thousands, tens of thousands of Americans and Canadians go.
Are those people hostage right now?
What's happening?
oscar ramirez
Well, the majority of the tourists right now, they're wondering what they are going to do.
And the statements of the government on a federal level, they have said, safeguard yourselves.
That's also Mexican.
Safeguard yourself.
If you don't have nothing else to do outside, don't go outside.
Also, every educational level has been suspended from elementary all the way to colleges.
Businesses are being told to close early at six o'clock in the morning.
It looks like the Culiacanaso when the war between Los Chapos and Los Mayos had started, and it was like a curfew.
People were going back home immediately to go back home.
And this basically tells you the level of aggression that it can escalate in a few seconds.
You know, just talking about the World Cup, it is coming up in June.
And exactly on that particular place in Jalisco, where the CJNG had a lot of control, just a kilometer away from Akron Stadium, Steve, the collector groups that they have been searching for the bodies of missing people that the CJNG killed these people.
They have been found on mass graves.
More than 500 human remain bags they have found close to there.
So it tells you the level of, you know, the aggression and the level of the disaster of these cartels that it was created here.
And now the people want to go in protest on this World Cup to see if they can stop it because of the level of insecurity in Jalisco.
steve bannon
Listen, with all the kinetic activity yesterday, this afternoon's been pretty calm.
Is that because the military, the federales have flooded the zone?
I mean, why this calm is the cartel so far back on their heels?
They're not ready to strike back.
oscar ramirez
Oh, just breaking news right now, Steve.
We were talking and I just, they sent me a video, another burned car on the international road.
And I will give you that video later on.
And they're being, they're sending the video to me.
Right now, they just burned an automobile in the international road that connects from the west side to the east side of Tijuana.
This is just steps from the border wall.
It is in the main role next to the border wall.
The cartel is being bald right now.
So the acceleration of the violence, we don't know how they are going to react.
This is why I have recommended for people that are coming to Mexico to try to just give it this week to see how the federal government is going to manage this, see how the reaction of the cartel, if it's going to be passive, aggressive, aggressive, or aggressive, radical.
As we have seen since yesterday, it was radical.
The aggression was, you know, it was consistent the whole day, burning of automobiles.
They just burned one.
They're saying like 45 minutes to an hour ago, right there in the international avenue that connects from the west to the east side, just steps away from the border wall.
So it tells you that this level of violence that is going to continue until the federal government puts a stop to it and goes from community to community to secure these communities.
steve bannon
David Rodriguez, he's up.
David, I got about 50 seconds.
I got to go to break, but you have advocated strongly for months.
Canadians and Americans do not go to Mexico.
Why was that?
david nino rodriguez
Because I knew it was any moment this was going to pop off at any, any moment.
And I just thought, hey, travel advisory, don't go there.
It's about to get bad.
Cartel warfare is real.
I've lived through it with Carjuadas.
I know what they do.
And they put innocent civilians at risk.
They don't care.
All they're going to do is try to muddy up Trump's face and make his operation look like a fault, like he fumbled the ball.
That's all they're going to do in this.
And they're going to make it as ugly as possible with guerrilla warfare.
And I think that's what's coming because this is about survival for them.
You're taking away the biggest commodity, drugs, human trafficking, everything.
So this is the end of their lives.
I mean, this is everything about survival for them.
steve bannon
David, hang on for one second.
Oscar Blue Ramirez, David Rodriguez, stick with us after a short commercial break.
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steve bannon
Oscar, I know you got a bounce.
You want to go get some footage of this terrorism they're doing up by the border real quickly.
If Rodriguez is right, they know that this is the endgame forum.
How tough is this going to be?
And where do you think it's going to spread?
oscar ramirez
Well, the federal government right now has an enormous responsibility.
And now the Mexican people that they have seen that they are capable of executing and eliminating the leader of the cartel, they're going to demand more, Steve.
So this is all the Trump administration.
You can put all this triumph to the Trump administration because they're the ones that they have been pressuring the Mexican government to expose this and to basically go after them.
So the Mexican people are going to want, they're going to just be pushing the Mexican government to do better to safeguard the communities, to go after the cartels and to actually go one-on-one with them.
Mexican president has been saying, we don't want to go to war with the cartels.
We don't see that that is the solution.
Guess what you're doing right now?
You're actually going one-on-one with them.
So you're actually doing that.
And that's what the Mexican people want.
They want these people to go away.
They want these cartels to be eradicated, to be eliminated.
And that is the number one thing that the Mexican people are going to start pushing for this time.
steve bannon
Okay.
Well, where do people, where do we get you 24-7?
Social media.
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steve bannon
Perfect.
Great reporting, sir.
Go get the latest footage.
David, Rodriguez, Nino, you say muddy the face that these cartels realize this is really them versus Trump.
The elephant in the room is these big resorts in Puerto Villarta with thousands of Canadian and American tourists in them, no air travel out.
They're kind of almost like, you know, hostages of the hotels.
What happens there?
And how big a target is that for the cartels?
david nino rodriguez
Huge targets.
The thing that confuses me about this is who do you think runs that industry?
It's the cartels.
So it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out.
steve bannon
Holy, what do you mean?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
What do you mean the industry?
You're talking about the leisure and travel industry is basically financial hotels.
david nino rodriguez
They own a lot of the beautiful resorts out there.
Everyone knows that.
I mean, you know, the resorts, the beauty, I mean, even in Cedar Juarez, all the beautiful clubs, I mean, that would put some of Vegas clubs to shame are obviously owned by cartels, right?
So, you know, it's not just drug dealing and violence that they deal with.
They own a lot of beautiful resorts and places, but this to me seems like they're going to keep these people held hostage for as long as it takes until they get some kind of deal or something gets done or Trump makes a move and eliminates him.
This is, we are now in what I like to call a Mexican standoff.
You know, this is it.
It's high noon outside the saloon and we're going to see how this plays out.
And they're bulldozing roads.
They're lighting cars on fire to show, hey, we're not going to give up.
We're not backing down.
This is war.
steve bannon
And if you had five minutes with the president in the Oval Office, he said, Nino, you're from El Paso.
You know this better than anybody.
What's your recommendation?
david nino rodriguez
Dude, it's got to be surgical.
It's got to be operations like they did with Maduro and Mincho, and it's got to be surgical.
They cannot put innocent lives at risk.
And that's what the cartels are going to do because it'll make Trump look bad.
It'll make him look terrible.
I think of the protests that That we'll have here on American soil if they start taking innocent tourists.
And but you do.
steve bannon
You are recommending kinetic activity, like you saw yesterday.
Go back to law enforcement, because Sam Fattis and Prince made it very clear yesterday was a game changer and that was going kinetic.
That's not some law enforcement.
Let's go down and arrest him with their information is let's go down and take him out and take out his high command.
So are you a proponent of continued, even if highly targeted, kinetic activity, paramilitary activity by the United States in conjunction with the Mexican military?
david nino rodriguez
It's got to look like it's coming from Mexico, like they're handling their own problems.
It's got to look like it's coming from the Mexican military.
Because now we've reached, we are in uncharted waters.
We've gone to, we've gone too far, we're at a point of no return.
It's on, it's on.
It's like the street fight has started.
You're going to back down now.
I mean it's, we're in it, this is it, so this is uncharted waters.
If I had uh, you know as much as I would say, yeah, do this surgically.
Yeah, you got to do the operations surgically, the best you can, but we are in a point of no return.
We have just declared war on Mexico, and the reason I say that is because the cartels control Mexico.
So it's war, this is war.
Now how this goes from here is going to be very, very interesting.
But the way I see it, this is the point of no return.
And Trump has committed, and so here we go, let's see.
It's like you know, it's round one of a 15 round fight.
steve bannon
Well, you know about 15 round fights.
You used to be a great fighter down there um, and now you've got one of the biggest podcasts in the state of Texas in the country.
Where do people go to get the podcast?
Where do they go get your social media?
david nino rodriguez
X is Nino Boxer, N-in-o Boxer, and then uh, Ninoscorner.tv or Nino's corner on youtube.
Thank you, Nino.
steve bannon
What was so impressive is that you for because I watched your show you have for months been warning about what happened yesterday.
You were telling people, hey, if you're Canadian or American, maybe it's time, time to reschedule your vacation, but don't go because it's very dangerous.
david nino rodriguez
And you turned out to be correct sir, it blows my mind that some people are still down there and they they're like, oh well, no big deal, let's just sip on the pina Colada.
It's crazy to me.
It's cognitive dissonance, it's just, it's wild.
It's wild, Nino.
steve bannon
Thank you so much.
david nino rodriguez
You got it.
steve bannon
One of the best and one of the smartest.
Uh, president Trump has got a response.
For those of you looking at this Axios article, president Trump not saying he's watching the show today, but he's got a response on Axios.
I want to read it in its entirety.
Numerous stories from the fake news media have been circulating, stating that general Daniel Kaine, sometimes referred as Raisin, is against us going to war with Iran.
The story does not attribute the vast wealth of knowledge to anyone and it's 100 incorrect.
General Kane, like all of us, would like not to see war, but if a decision is made on going against Iran at a military level, it is his opinion that it'd be something easily won.
He knows Iran well and that he was in charge of midnight hammer, the attack on the Iranian nuclear development.
It's a development no longer, but rather was blown to smithereens by our great B-2 bombers.
Raisin Kane is a great fighter and represents the most powerful military anywhere in the world.
He has not spoken of not doing Iran, or even the fake limited strikes that I have been reading about.
He only knows one thing, how to win.
And if he is told to do so, he will be ready.
He will be leading the pack.
Everything that has been written about a potential war with Iran has been written inaccurately and purposefully so.
I am the one that makes the decision.
I would rather have a deal than not.
But if we don't make a deal, it will be a very bad day for that country.
And very sadly, its people, because they are great and wonderful, and something like this should never have happened to them.
President Donald J. Trump.
So there you have President Trump's response to the Axio story.
And like I said, we've reited many times, President Trump's trying to get a diplomatic solution.
He's trying to, he said over and over again, I'd rather have a deal.
He just said there twice through two or three times.
However, and I keep saying this, if the Ayatollah and the Moolahs want to play games and have people in separate rooms and they've got some symbolic thing, I just think President Trump is his patience will wear thin on that.
He's made enough deals in his life to know you got to be in a room and make a deal.
And I think he'll, I just, I don't even see Thursday taking place with that structure.
I think the Persians have got to get serious.
If they want to make a deal, make a deal.
If you don't want to make a deal, then stand by because President Trump will look at other alternatives.
He's collected a, he's organized a vast armada and an airbridge that is something like I've never seen before because the lethality today of our weapons system is so much greater than during the Gulf War.
Startling Good News 00:11:33
steve bannon
And so there you are.
Jeff Ryer, we do have some startling good news.
By the way, President Trump has announced, or I think unofficially announced, he is coming to Texas on Friday.
I believe potentially Corpus Christi, but the president is coming here Friday on the Friday before of early voting ends and the weekend early voting ends.
And of course, the election or the primary is next Tuesday.
So President Trump is coming to Texas going in the Hustins.
Jeff Ryer, this controversy, in fact, Spanberger is giving the response to the state of the union tomorrow night solely because of one thing, not just she's won the governor of Virginia by 15 points or however many, but that she has put forward a proposal to change the Commonwealth from a 6-5 Democratic leaning state of 11 seats in the House to a 10-to-1, an audacious grab for power.
And all the mainstream media has been talking about how great she is, how wonderful she is, she aggressive, how she's joining the upper ranks of these aggressive anti-Trump Democrat politicians.
But lo and behold, a poll came out that said the folks in the Commonwealth have big concerns about this.
Walk us through it, Jeff.
jeff ryer
Yeah, and the poll is confirming what we're starting to hear on the ground as well, which is as people learn more about the Democrats scheme to switch Virginia from a state that's relatively evenly balanced.
There are currently six congressional districts that side with the Democrats and five that side with the Republicans, which is commensurate with our performance in the 2024 elections.
She wants to switch it and just signed the bill to switch the maps to 10-1 that would go into effect after a referendum on a constitutional, a temporary constitutional amendment.
It would be held on April the 21st.
And the polling that was released today showed that Virginians are starting to get the message.
And it shows the side saying no, leading by about eight points.
This is the second public poll on this issue that's been released.
The first one was released a couple of weeks back, really before a lot of information started getting out.
Also, using the Democrats' framing of the issue, they're framing it as a matter of fairness, taking it from 6-5 Democrat to Republican to 10-1 Democrat to Republican.
And now that the message is getting out on our side, we're starting to see that.
steve bannon
But hang on, full stop.
All the media, particularly the Washington Post, all the liberal media in Northern Virginia, all the liberal media in the Richmond Times Dispatch, all of it has been lauding her.
Oh, this is fair.
10-21 is ridiculous, right?
It's a power grab.
But they've also spent a couple of million bucks.
The Democrats got big coffers with this.
You've had paid advertisement.
You guys don't have anything to date, basically.
We say the word getting out.
That's some shows and you going on and doing social media.
But they've had an avalanche of media in their favor about how great this is.
You guys have had nothing and you lead by eight points.
That's what's so stunning about this poll.
You've had the whole world against you and tons of cash.
You guys have your David versus Goliath here, and she's quick marching this thing to the 21st of April.
But people in Virginia are saying, I don't know if this makes sense.
We go from 6-5 to 10 to 1.
That doesn't make any sense, sir.
jeff ryer
What we have on our side more than anything else is right.
And although you're right, we didn't have the $2.5 million that the Democrats spent on advertising just during the Olympics over the last two weeks, so that, you know, in between the lose, you could watch yet another Democratic ad telling you why 10-1 would be a good deal.
We didn't have that.
But what we did have was we had a lot of activists that we've been engaging very aggressively over the course of the last several weeks in the party.
We are relying almost entirely right now on a grassroots effort, engaging our activists in our local Republican committees, getting them the tools so that they can get that message out.
So we really are dealing strictly with grassroots versus big money.
And that's where we've been so far.
So you're right.
It's David versus Goliath.
But so far, David's gaining steam.
We're kind of happy.
steve bannon
You guys are pretty tough.
They told me you're a tough guy.
Okay, where do they go to find out more about this?
I want everybody in the country, all the MAGA people, to find out more about you and this fight in Virginia.
Because right now, folks, it is a fight.
Where do they go?
jeff ryer
Go to virginia.gop and slash stop-gerrymandering.
Or if you simply go to virginia.gop at the very top of the page, you'll see on the left-hand side a little piece of print that says stop gerrymandering.
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Click on that.
jeff ryer
It gives you all the ways you can help us win this battle.
steve bannon
Ryer, you're a good man, and you're a tough man, and you're a smart man.
Thank you for joining us.
And thank you for this fight.
Eight points up on the polls after $2.5 million.
Million dollars spent on during the Olympics, during the luge.
You watch the skeleton and then you get a ad of how fair 10 to 1 is.
Nothing shocks me that Denver.
And Spanberger, she's going to give the counter.
I'll tell you later about our coverage, our wall-to-gall coverage of the State of the Union tomorrow.
Short break.
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I believe it's going to take place in the Corpus Christiary.
More details about that tomorrow.
Tony Lyons, you're one of the leaders of the Make America Healthy Again.
You were a critical part of Bobby Kennedy's campaign.
One of the fears is that the reason we won in 24 and so big, popular vote, all those states, is the combination, the coalition of Make America Healthy Again and Make America Great Again.
One of the concerns is that because we see people around the president say, you got to moderate, got to moderate, got to moderate.
With Make America Healthy Again, all we want is all gas and no breaks.
Your assessment, sir, how do we keep this coalition together if all of a sudden people are saying, oh, you got to pull back for a midterm election?
This is exactly the moment we should be most aggressive on the Make America Healthy Again agenda, sir.
tony lyons
I think so too.
You know, Maha is here to support the president and the incredible coalition that they built.
So, and then there are all these groups that are coming out who want to destroy that coalition and they want to drive a wedge and they want to make it look like there's all this disagreement within the movement.
But what they miss is that the movement is based on disagreement.
Maha people challenge the status quo.
That's what we're good at.
We came into this movement to challenge everything, to put everything on the table.
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So that's our strength, not our weakness.
But in the end, we support this president and Bobby Kennedy.
And we see the incredible change that's being made, that just on area after area from vaccines to food to the SNAP program, to getting candy and soda out of the SNAP program, to switching the food pyramid on its head so that millions and millions of people in this country start eating healthy food, start eating real food and stop eating processed food.
I mean, we are here to end the chronic disease epidemic in this country that 76% of the public suffer from.
And so there's this movable middle.
There are 12 to 14% of the general population who haven't decided what they're going to do.
And these people want toxins out of food.
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They want us to have a reasonable vaccine program.
These are people who want common sense and they are looking to a government, to a president who's going to bring back common sense.
And they see that Donald Trump is the most Maha president that we've ever had.
And yeah, we're going to disagree all the time.
And pesticides is a great point there.
But we are right in the middle of this opportunity to accelerate a shift to next generation biopesticides to fast track things, to have pathways for matching grants, for tax incentives.
We all know that glyphosate causes cancer.
There have been hundreds and hundreds, thousands of lawsuits proving that.
So the question is, how do we off-ramp?
How do we use common sense?
How do we have a practical way to solve this incredible problem while protecting farmers?
And that's happening now.
And the government is really focused on that.
And Bobby Kennedy is really focused on that.
So I think that great things are happening here.
And we are in the process of making it easier and cheaper to be healthy in this country.
We've got the whole country focused on health.
I mean, we had a Super Bowl ad that was viewed, you know, with Mike Tyson, viewed by 150 million people.
People want to be healthy.
95% of the population wants, you know, healthier food, better school lunches, stricter rules so that lawmakers can't have conflicts of interest with big food companies.
I mean, this is happening and these are just incredible wins.
And this team is going to stick together and it's going to change the outcome of the midterms.
That's what's really happening.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Where do people go?
You've set up a bunch of these Make America Healthy Again think tanks, action centers, et cetera.
Where do people go right now to know more about you, what you're working on in Maha and your social media, sir?
tony lyons
Yeah, so, you know, we have 10 different groups that we're building now.
We've got the Maha Report on Substack.
We've got a mailing list of more than 2 million people that people can join.
We have Maha Films, Maha parties, big events with thousands of people this coming week in Texas.
But the best place for people to go is MahaAction.com.
That's sort of the Maha hub for right now.
steve bannon
Perfect.
There's a big event.
We're covering it live in Austin, Texas this Thursday.
Tony Lyons, thank you very much, sir.
Hopefully our team will see you down there.
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