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Feb. 5, 2026 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5119: No De Escalation No Surrender; Nationalizing The 2026 Election

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Participants
Main
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brandon gill
rep/r 06:21
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natalie winters
07:48
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steve bannon
r 17:24
Appearances
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burgess everett
00:58
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james sample
02:50
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jenny story
03:10
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katy tur
msnow 01:30
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matt schlapp
03:33
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mike lindell
r 02:31
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shira scheindlin
00:46
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tim miller
01:12
Clips
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jake tapper
cnn 00:10
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Speaker Time Text
Tough Guy Act Won't Work 00:14:14
katy tur
About the harmonizing, as you just mentioned, Burgess.
And James, on the harmonizing with the president on elections being fraudulent or not being fair because suddenly Republicans start losing as ballots are counted, which is again how Tim explains how elections work.
When you harmonize with the president on that, what you do is you create the circumstances for a vast number of Americans to decide that the election is not fair because they didn't win and they're angry about it.
And then you have the conditions for what happened on January 6th.
Didn't they learn that lesson?
james sample
Well, you're absolutely right.
Whether they learned the lesson or not, that's hard to say.
But to Tim's point about counting, absolutely, and Mike Johnson knows that.
Mike Johnson's comment there is a piece in a larger puzzle.
And it's an indication that these words are also combined with action.
He may talk, President Trump may talk about things that sound crazy, but he always has somebody willing to take some action.
He may talk about trying to take over Greenland, but there's at least an attempt.
And yes, he was rebuffed.
But if you think about Mike Johnson's comment, it is a brick in the wall, just like Steve Bannon saying we're going to have ICE at the polling places, just like Tulsi Gabbard going down to Georgia, just like all of these things that get the threats against election officials, the rhetoric about voter fraud that doesn't exist.
When you talk about nationalizing elections, especially nationalizing them on a partisan basis, we need Republicans to take over 15 states.
You're not actually trying to promote election integrity.
You are affirmatively seeking to undermine election integrity as a predicate to do things that are also unconstitutional.
steve bannon
You're damn right.
We're going to have ice surround the polls come November.
We're not going to sit here and allow you to steal the country again.
And you can whine and cry and throw your toys out of the pram all you want, but we will never again allow an election to be stolen.
katy tur
The election wasn't stolen.
When you're talking about people who were not supposed to vote in elections, the idea that there's fraud, the number is minuscule.
Minuscule.
In Georgia, I think it was eight people total that weren't citizens who voted fraudulently, but eight people in Fulton County in the ballots that they just seized.
But this messaging is pervasive, and it is preying upon people who want to be convinced that they're being sidelined, that the government is corrupt.
shira scheindlin
Well, but there's a really important point to make.
It's about deterring and depressing the vote.
If you instill fear in the voters, if they think they're going to go to the polls and find armed masked agents, they just might not go to the United States.
katy tur
Armed mass agents, by the way, who just killed two Americans.
shira scheindlin
Oh, I understand that.
So if you say, should I vote today or not?
Maybe I better not go.
I think it's a campaign to deter and depress the vote because otherwise they don't think they're going to win the next two elections.
And this is a reaction to the fear of not winning.
And things got worse today.
The Supreme Court is letting the California map go forward.
katy tur
Why is that worse?
shira scheindlin
Because there's five seats now in California that can go through.
So I'm just saying worse in the sense Republicans are more worried that they won't win the midterms or the president.
katy tur
What can he do, James, other than surrounding ICE around ballot boxes and intimidating at the polls, what can the president do to disrupt?
james sample
Well, Article 1, Section 4 gives the power to the states, but it does give Congress a backup role.
So the question in terms of what he can do, it really goes to the Burgess's answer with regard to the SAVE Act or the new SAVE Act 2.0, which is not just voter ID.
katy tur
It also has we get Burgess to explain it to us before we go into this.
james sample
Sure.
katy tur
Sorry for interrupting.
Burgess, explain the Save Act.
burgess everett
Well, as he was referring to, they're working on an updated version of it.
But the general gist here is to require proof of citizenship before you can vote.
And a lot of Republicans were trying to attach it to this government funding bill just a few days ago and say, and they were basically backed down by the president and said that the Senate had made a commitment to either use its rules or change its rules to be able to pass it by a simple majority.
You know, we're finding out in the aftermath of that, that's not the case.
The Senate Republicans don't have a plan to do that, and they're not going to change the rules.
So this bill doesn't really face any sort of path to law.
And I'm also reminded four years ago, Democrats were very concerned with some of the changes that states were making, like Georgia, to their own election laws.
So they had a national response to that that failed in the Senate, and they tried to change the rules for that as well.
And Republicans all opposed that.
So it's interesting how it only took four years for this shoe to end up totally on the other foot.
katy tur
Good point, James.
james sample
Yeah, no, I mean, I think wherever one stands on the filibuster, it is times like this where party control is consolidated entirely across Senate, House, and the White House, where the filibuster does really have some real teeth and some real value.
Because concentrated control and the ability to write the rules of the game is a dangerous combination, which is why we have a decentralized system.
The irony in terms of what Burgess is referencing, and he's absolutely right there about the juxtaposition of left and right with respect to state control versus federal control, is the one area where Congress is given greater authority in elections is with respect to instances in which states have a history of racial discrimination.
The Voting Rights Act.
Well, what is the Supreme Court engaged in basically the final hours of striking down and putting the nail in the coffin?
The one area where federal control, and yes, that's pushed by the left, anti-discrimination practices that are a part and parcel of the Voting Rights Act, one of the most successful pieces of legislation ever.
That's on the chopping block, but we want to have, but the Republicans want to have voter purges, proof of citizenship, and mail-in balloting.
That's the difference.
It's not just a juxtaposition.
You have to dig down into the merits of what they're trying to accomplish.
tim miller
I think that they do that because it's their easy way out.
They can't defend us on the merits.
So pretending like people that are concerned about it are alarmists or have derangement syndrome or whatever is their only safe harbor.
I just want to say one other thing, going back to that Bannon clip, because I do think it's important for folks on the pro-democracy side to say this clearly, that like Bannon's Tough Guy Act is not going to work, actually.
It's going to backfire.
I don't think that having some ICE agents standing outside the ballot box is going to depress people from turning out.
I think what we've seen in Minneapolis is people will get out in the streets at risk to themselves.
I think it will draw a lot of attention to the midterms.
The midterm election is a lot about motivating your own base.
I can't think of anything that would motivate the opposition base more than trying to send some soldiers into the streets to intimidate people.
So it might work on the margins.
There might be a couple of people who decide they don't want to vote because they don't want to deal with the hassle.
But I think that there will be an overwhelming backlash to it.
I think it's important to say that clearly and to encourage people, you know, rather than kind of playing into their hands and acting like their little intimidation thing is going to work because it isn't.
steve bannon
We're never going to allow to happen what happened in 2020.
It's the biggest crime this country's ever had.
And you see the debacle that you have it now with this whole fiasco about having to get 15 to 20 court in the president, 25 million illegal alien invaders out.
The whole fiasco in Ukraine, the whole fiasco in Gaza, the whole fiasco in the Middle East and Latin America, everywhere.
The debt out of control.
The railhead all goes back to the chaos makers of the stolen election and putting in Biden a controlled something the deep state can control into the White House's enfeebled.
That's not happening again.
And yes, you're going to have ICE people around the ballot box.
I don't care if Bill Crystal and these guys, all these weak knee Republicans that got us in all these foreign wars and destroyed the country and now are just sink of fans for the Democrats and anti-Trump.
So listen, I would love to sit there and go, Tom Holman, that's amazing.
I see, I feel it, the unprecedented cooperation.
Let's just draw down 700 in Minnesota.
No, Make the mathematical case of what the unprecedented cooperation is.
And maybe it is.
Maybe we're just missing it.
Maybe the state prisons and the jails and Fry and Waltz are just bending over backwards to cooperate.
And maybe we're getting to the bad ombres and we're picking them up.
Haven't seen it on tape.
They don't talk about it on MSNBC.
Maybe that's it.
And if we make that case, you say, hey, let's redeploy those assets someplace else.
But until that time, you should surge again.
This is not about politics in the midterms.
Let me repeat, we have a moral obligation to drive every illegal alien invader out of this nation.
I don't give a damn what Wall Street says about it.
I don't care what corporate America says about it.
I don't care what the tech bros say about it.
And I certainly don't care what Rachel Maddow and the Marxist media that defended this and lied about it when it was happening.
You think now we're supposed to kowtow to?
So here's the unprecedented cooperation.
We're going to give them none.
Zero.
All of them got to go.
And President Trump has to nationalize the election.
You got to put not just, I think, ICE.
You got to call up the 82nd and the 101st airborne on the Insurrection Act.
You got to get around every poll and make sure only people with IDs, people are actually registered to vote and people that are United States citizens vote in this election.
Full stop.
We will not accept anything less.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
You're going to not get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 4th February, the year of the Lord 2026.
No, when you put the proper authorities around to make sure that the 2026 midterm can't be stolen, it shouldn't intimidate any of your voters that have IDs and are American citizens and on the voting role.
And hey, if it motivates your people, come out.
God bless them.
Come out.
We love democracy.
I think we kicked your ass in the seven of the eight last elections.
Yeah.
You won in 2018 when Nancy Pelosi and she did her work that summer and the Trump folks leaned on their rakes.
I think we lost 30, 35 seats, something like that.
You took the House and impeached Trump, just like Nancy Pelosi said.
She motivated them.
I got that.
That's called democracy.
We've won seven of eight since then, and we're going to win this one.
You're not going to have illegal.
Natalie, why are they making such a big deal about this?
And now they're all up in arms.
They have to have IDs.
Though these voter acts have to, and they're fighting tooth and nail.
And now we're going to go through two weeks of warfare over ICE and DHS that they want to defund.
You're my in-resident expert on color revolutions.
You see what they're doing.
And Tim Miller's saying, well, the tough guy, Tim, it's not a tough guy act.
We're not going to back off this.
This is our priority to get these bills passed to make sure that we don't shut down ICE in the next two weeks.
And if we have to, call it the Insurrection Act.
Let's bring up the 82nd Airborne to make sure that we've got free and fair elections.
We'd love free and fair elections because we know we have more U.S. citizens that'll vote for us as we have the last seven of eight times, national elections.
Natalie Winters, ma'am.
natalie winters
Well, I would just like to double down on what you said and push back against our dear friend who has been on war room, Tim Miller, the tough guy, is certainly not an act.
You are indeed very tough.
You survived, what was it, four months in federal prison and came out and I think, what was it, won your third election in a row.
So take that to Miller and take that Democratic Party, which you belong to.
But Steve, you've obviously hit a nerve.
And by the way, I would think all of these people who were so apoplectic over Doge allegedly exposing voter information data, the information on all these Americans, would really care about voter ID laws and guaranteeing citizenship when you're dealing with who's voting.
But here's the real key, Steve.
The SAVE Act, what we're talking about right now, isn't even that radical.
We're not even talking about election certification within the day the election actually happens.
The Red Mirage, remember all those shady terms that they rolled out in 2020?
This is rudimentary stuff.
You're getting to the heart of it, which is why they're freaking out over it.
And it's, I mean, it's glorious to see, but it's really telling that they're so worried about illegal aliens showing up to vote.
It's absolutely absurd.
I'm more concerned about ballot harvesting, the mail-in ballots.
And here's what I'd say, Steve.
Our new coalition is so big, right?
We have all the big tech geniuses.
Why don't they step up to the plate and make some contributions, not just on the deportation and immigration front, but on the election integrity front and actually do something to help us with this issue, not just grift off of MAGA and make some money off of some AI data centers or Bitcoin.
Fentanyl's Chinese Connection 00:07:33
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unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Welcome back.
Natalie's going to rejoin us in a moment.
I want to bring in Matt Slap.
So 10 o'clock tomorrow morning, Matt, we're going to be covering kind of a conference hearing on narco-terrorism.
Give me, you guys are helping pulling it together.
In fact, I think you're sponsoring it.
Tell us what we're going to see.
matt schlapp
Yeah, basically, Steve, because we built a wall or almost built, finished building that wall, and because Donald Trump secured the border, we have a 21% decrease in deaths from fentanyl.
So the Trump impact on families is immediate.
But the other thing that's interesting is we have all these freedom-loving leaders starting with Bukhayli on down to Malay and a couple of recent victories.
And now we're looking at Columbia.
Whenever the MAGA version wins in these Central and South American countries, something strange happens.
The narco-terrorists lose another platform to kill our children.
So another impact of the Trump doctrine is he's literally saving kids' lives in America by having freedom win at the ballot.
steve bannon
That's amazing.
And people, who's going to be there?
Because we're going to start at Tim.
By the way, Oscar, as you know, folks, has been in Ramirez, has been down at CCUT.
He's been on RAV throughout the day.
Who are we going to see tomorrow?
Well, Matt, who have you brought together?
matt schlapp
I think the number one most important person is Sarah Carter.
She's our drug czar.
I like to call her our drugs arena.
She's Sarah the Great.
And, you know, the Senate tried to do everything they could not to confirm her because she is going to be such a fierce advocate for our kids and fighting these narco-terrorists and the cartels.
She's firmly in place under Donald Trump and doing a great job.
And she's going to be our most important speaker.
And then we're going to have various leaders throughout Mexico and the Americas to talk about what the challenges are in their countries.
And then we're going to have some great congressional leaders like Ashley Moody from Florida and Bill Haggerty from Tennessee and others.
So yeah, it's going to be an impactful day.
steve bannon
If people, is there any possibility for people in the greater Washington area?
Can they can they get there and see it live?
matt schlapp
Or is everything just show up and go to the I'd go at nine o'clock and go to the Cannon Caucus Room and get your seats.
All of our events are grassroots events.
You're welcome to be there.
And look, the Trump impact on our kids has been immediate.
Think about it.
When I say a 21% decrease in overdose deaths in America, that's with three months of Biden in there.
Just wait till we get a full year of President Trump's and Sarah Carter's policies.
We're going to save even more kids.
steve bannon
We're in Dallas, as you're not super north of Dallas in the greater Metroplex area, Dallas-Fort Worth.
We're going to be here through March 5th, going throughout the state for the primary, March 3rd for the primary.
We'll stay probably the 5th.
CPAC is at the end, I think, of March in Texas also as a statement.
Walk through how do people find out more about the national CPAC that's going to be headquartered in Texas this year as kind of show of respect for Texas and how important Texas is in this midterm election?
matt schlapp
This will be right after the primary, before any runoffs that might occur.
It won't come as any surprise to your viewers that where we're having this event is at the in Grapevine, right?
At this great hotel that you, the Gaylord Hotel, that you just had a big event at.
So you've already been there.
It's going to be a great venue, but it's important that it's in Texas.
We had this redistricting battle.
We have all the fights seem to be in Texas this year, all the issues that are important, including the border.
And by the way, Greg Abbott is an example that Juxtaposes with Tim Waltz.
He's cooperating with ICE, and you're not reading a lot of headlines.
They're just getting the people deported in the appropriate way.
So when you have a governor that works with you, it's amazing what can happen.
And we've already sold a ton of tickets.
Every time I come on here, we spike Steve.
So thanks for promoting CPAC.
I think March, the end of March, man, that's going to get right in the middle of this big fight we're going to have in this country about whether or not the Trump policies are working.
And we got to keep the House and the Senate.
As you know, if we lose either one, get ready for impeachment hearings and investigations and wasting the taxpayers' money on trying to stop Trump.
This is critical.
You don't really have a Trump victory in 2024 if you lose Congress in 2026.
steve bannon
Amen.
Where do we go to find?
I think it's March 24th to 27th this is 25th to the 28th.
matt schlapp
We'll start with our international summit, Steve, which we'll have all these world leaders at.
You've always come to that.
I hope you'll be at that as well.
Go to cpac.org, get your tickets now.
steve bannon
Incredible.
Match lab, thank you so much, brother.
Appreciate you.
matt schlapp
Thank you.
steve bannon
CPAC at the end of March.
Everybody, go right now, particularly people in the greater Texas area, but all over the nation, you should come.
The Gay Lord's a spectacular place.
Natalie, before you, you got a punch list you want to go to, but the Chinese Communist Party, Fentanyl, Mexico, Peter Schweitzer's book, they're both working against us to take down our government.
The Mexican government's got guys that work at this, the Chinese Communist Party.
How much of this fentanyl decrease is one?
I know it's more activity, President Trump, but the other is President Trump is putting pressure on the CCP, ma'am.
natalie winters
Well, the whole fentanyl issue is essentially just Chinese money laundering, right, coming in through the cartels.
That's how it gets into the United States.
I think that's an important deal that President Trump should push this April.
When he goes to Beijing, they've obviously been moving on that a lot.
But I mean, you see the level of involvement that the Mexican government, let alone the cartels, have like Peter Schweitzer's been exposing them, ratcheting up, riling up these protests.
These embassies, these consulates, we've obviously seen it with the Chinese Communist Party, like the one in Texas and Houston that, you know, was mysteriously set ablaze.
All of these embassies, they're part of a network.
It's foreign infiltration.
I mean, obviously, they're fronts for intelligence collection for the most part.
But what they do, even publicly, certainly when it comes to the Chinese aspect, and now we're seeing with the Mexican aspect too, over 50 of them, it's complete election interference.
It's foreign interference in domestic politics.
And the fentanyl issue, I think, is probably the most damaging form of that version of that.
And, you know, for all these Democrats that want to get up there and lecture us about the sanctity of human life because some radical left-wing protesters put themselves in harm's way and got shot, maybe they should spend more time worrying about the fentanyl issue if they have such a newfound sense of defending human life.
But then I guess they'd also have to care about abortion.
steve bannon
I want to talk to you.
Foreign Interference Debate 00:11:30
steve bannon
You've got your been focused on this ballot situation.
Talk to me about this because these elections in 26 are going to get to be front burner, right?
We've got to, there's no possibility, zero possibility that MAGA could live with itself if it allowed anything, any possibility of another steal like we had in 2020.
We've seen the disastrous catastrophe this has turned out for our nation and really for what we hope to bequeath to our children.
Talk to me about this ballot situation.
natalie winters
Well, I have to say, I gave myself a bit of PTSD saying the term red mirage, if you remember that one.
But I'd also like to say, you know, the missing person alert for the, what was it, the 10 million Democrat voters that we couldn't find since 2024, I don't think they ever answered for that one.
So maybe they should focus on answering that question before dictating to us what election integrity and election laws need to look like.
But I want to bring everyone's attention to something that I think President Trump can actually do to make elections more secure.
And that is a very quiet appointment that Joe Biden did in 2020 following his fake election.
And that was by putting a chick of the name Amber McReynolds on the U.S. Postal Service Board, which is responsible for overseeing particularly Mail and ballot delivery, and of course, a bunch of postal system stuff.
But this individual has no experience in shipping or logistics.
She was put on there for one reason.
It's clearly political.
It's clearly a partisan appointment.
So much so that Time magazine has extensively profiled her in a glowing piece titled Meet the Woman Behind the Country's Effort to Embrace Mail-in Voting in 2020, where she was dubbed the country's most quote outspoken evangelist for voting by mail and a guru on the issue.
If you read this article, you can see that her organization, which we're going to get into that because it's even more radical, was responsible for not just liaising with CISA, our beloved CISA, responsible for censoring so many of our criticisms of election administration, but that she was actually working hand in glove with basically every swing state, basically every state, helping them shift their election policies to fit in line with the pandemic guidelines, specifically the state of Georgia.
She had near daily contact with Raffensburger.
I want to read the article talking about what they did there.
Quote, McReynolds helped advise Georgia on which vendors to use and on the importance of steps such as having enough drop boxes to handle the increase in absentee ballots.
Her other pitch was that she should, quote, send ballots along with the return envelopes with prepaid postage directly to all registered voters' homes and then allow people to return them in as many ways as possible.
That could be mail, secure Dropbox, depositing ballots at a drive-through spot, or by hand delivering them to an election office or voting location.
She's also the director of the National Vote at Home Institute, which pushes for, forget mail-in balloting, voting at home, which is an absolutely absurd concept, of course, funded up the Wazoo by George Soros and the like.
She also was, you guessed it, the director of elections in Denver.
No conspiracies, no coincidences.
And she was even profiled as helping run basically all of these election offices in that very controversial Time magazine piece that kind of profiled the plot to steal the 2020 election.
So there are some Republicans who also serve on this board.
It's a multi-person board.
I think President Trump should look at this gal's appointment very, very closely.
I don't think this person is qualified to be on the board.
She has no experience.
She's a radical partisan hack.
And her concept of what voting looks like is voting by home to just sending ballots anywhere she thinks they should go.
steve bannon
Hang on.
I remember this when he sent it to me.
She was in Molly, Molly Ball wrote this piece.
People remember it had that montage on the front, where the people that actually secured the stealing of the 2020 election couldn't hold themselves back from bragging about it.
And I now've been, people said, well, it wasn't the cover of time, but it was the inside two-page spread on like a 10,000-word story.
She was one of the ones profiled of these union leaders and elected officials and people that couldn't hold it back anymore that came out and bragged about how they secured the stealing of the 2020 election.
Correct, ma'am?
natalie winters
Particularly in the state of Georgia.
That was her sort of crown jewel of all the states that she helped liaise with.
I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I think that state has some issues going on right now, particularly as you're looking at Fulton County.
I don't think she should be the poster child deciding how we run elections nationwide.
I think President Trump should really look at her appointment and perhaps appoint someone much better.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
I'm going to come right.
I wanted to hang around a minute.
Brandon Gill's also trying to get Brandon up.
Brandon was at the Sharia caucus yesterday.
That really set the tone for: hey, both the House and the Senate are going to get very serious about this.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, Brandon Gill is going to join us momentarily.
I'll get the thumbs up from our team when we do that.
So, Natalie, just a question.
This person's on the board.
She's profiled in Molly Ball's really seminal piece about the people that secured the steal who couldn't hold back.
And I'll get that up so Mo and Grace can put that up later.
She's one of the people profiled in it.
She knows all about Georgia.
She's sitting on the post office board with no expertise in logistics, but she has expertise in stealing elections around mail-in ballots.
Maybe, I'm just tossing this out there.
Maybe she's not the best representative for President Trump on that board, ma'am?
natalie winters
I don't think so.
Her term expires late December of this year, so convenient timing.
So I think well before then, maybe it's time to have a short-term termination.
Maybe they've done it to us.
I remember when they did it to Darren Beattie, so it seems only fair.
And I don't really care about how, you know, business as usual or the legality of all this stuff.
These people stole elections.
They can live with it.
steve bannon
So your recommendation to the president, given our interpretation of his Article II powers, and look, we go to court for a couple of three of these things.
Your recommendation is the president is that she has no value added except how to steal elections.
And your recommendation is now she should be removed immediately and not after the November election in December.
Am I hearing you correctly?
natalie winters
Look, Steve, we always advocate coloring within the lines, full transparency, actual election integrity, right?
But when you call for basic things like saying we should make sure illegals can't vote, and if they're going to smear you as an autocrat dictator for wanting that, a zealot for stealing elections, they're going to call you an autocrat, then I'm not saying you should become one, but you may as well do the thing that they're going to accuse you of when it comes to defending the most sacrosanct thing we have in this country, which is the integrity of elections.
They're already melting down over what President Trump wants to do with elections, which are totally within the bounds, given the state of how elections are administered in this country.
So get rid of these people who have a documented track record in the press.
Can you imagine what they're saying behind closed doors of wanting to run elections by voting by home, just mass mailing ballots to any address wherever?
I think we saw from what went down in Minnesota.
We don't have the best system of tracking where exactly funds, let alone ballots, are going, and then just let people return them by mail, drop boxes, driving.
Who knows?
I don't think that's how we want to be running elections in this country.
steve bannon
I think we'll get this clip over to the White House.
Thank you very much, Natalie.
What's your social media, ma'am?
Thank you for helping us out today.
natalie winters
Natalie G. Winters on all platforms and NatalieGwinters.substack.com, where you can read the latest story.
steve bannon
Got a lot more to go through with you tomorrow and Friday, but thank you very much.
Appreciate you.
Okay, Brandon Gill was at the press conference yesterday.
Let's go ahead and play his cold open, and then I'll bring in Congressman Gill from Texas 26.
brandon gill
Sharia law and radical Islam have no place in the United States.
You know, there's a fundamental truth that I think we've got to recognize, which is that not all cultures are created equal and they are not all equally compatible with America's governing framework.
The reality is that radical Islam as a political ideology has a very different conception of freedom of speech than we have in the United States, a very different conception of freedom of religion, of separation of church and state, or of mosque and state.
Islam as a political ideology is inherently imperialistic, and we see that now, unfortunately, all over the Western world.
Why are we saying terrorist attached from radical Islam within our own borders?
Where did this come from?
Islam is largely alien to American history.
It certainly didn't come into the United States on the Mayflower.
It's something that we deliberately imported as a matter of immigration policy into our country, and it's going to destroy us just like it's destroying Europe right now.
It's our job to stand up to that, to stand up for our values and to prohibit alien cultures and alien ideologies that do not comport with our own government governing framework.
And that's why I'm proud to be part of the Sharia Free America Caucus.
steve bannon
I want to thank Jay Story now, joins me in studio.
I'm branding Congressman Brandon Gill.
Congressman, what is it that drove you to join the caucus?
What have you seen in Texas?
What have you seen throughout the country that said, hey, I've had enough of this.
I've got to put my voice to this.
brandon gill
Well, thanks for having me on.
It's really two things.
One, what I see right in the DFW area, I represent a district that's just north of the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex in Denton County.
And I hear from constituents all the time who are deeply and desperately concerned about the Islamization of the Dallas area.
They're hearing about mosques that are popping up near land that they or their family have owned for generations.
They're hearing about these epic city compounds that are popping up, where you have entire communities who are being transformed.
And you hear about constituents talking about going to their local malls, and you look around and it feels like you're in Pakistan, not Dallas, Texas.
That's a problem.
And you're seeing our communities, our culture, the place that we know and love here being fundamentally transformed.
And my constituents are concerned, and I'm concerned.
But secondly, you can see what's happening in Europe where, you know, I think Europe is probably, I hope not, but they seem to be several, maybe a decade ahead of the United States in terms of the Islamization there.
And you see areas like Paris or London whose culture is being absolutely eroded, where there are no-go zones, where you have mass Islamic migration that is stripping away French and English culture in those areas.
And we can't have that here.
You know, the reality, and I'm glad that you played that clip, but the reality is this is a culture that is fundamentally incompatible with our own governing framework.
And we've got to be smart and have some common sense and recognize that.
steve bannon
Congressman, you're one of the rising stars in the new class of congressmen.
Blue State Migration Worries 00:04:42
steve bannon
And as you look out, the 2026 midterms, and we were putting so much emphasis, War Room is here for a month in the run-up to the primary.
CPAC, we just had Matchlap on is going to be here at the end of March.
The national CPAC is going to be in Texas because Matt and the team at CPAC thought it was very essential to send a message of how important Texas is in the midterms.
You've seen, you know, we've said President Trump is talking about nationalize this.
We're very concerned about stealing the 2020 election, and that has been stolen by people, by these asylum programs, these temporary asylum programs, these refugee programs, and of course the 15 to 20 million illegal aliens that came across the border in Biden's watch.
Governor Abbott's been fantastic of working with Holman, but we have Minnesota, New York, Illinois, California, these blue states that have just said they're not going to do it.
The president has talked about, hey, we may have to nationalize the election, and we at the war room and the war imposse are 100% in back of that.
Can you give us your thoughts?
As you sit up on Capitol Hill and sit in these meetings, is there a sense of urgency among particularly House members that we have to make sure that this election, this midterm, is 100% free and fair, sir?
brandon gill
Yes, absolutely.
And, you know, I think that after four years of open borders, I think Republicans are particularly have an acute awareness of election integrity and the dangers of mass migration's impact on our electoral system.
I mean, it's very clear what the left has been doing for decades now, and that's import as many people as they possibly can and funnel those people into sanctuary jurisdictions, which tend to be blue states.
That impacts congressional apportionment, meaning blue states get more congressional representation because the census is based on the number of people in a state rather than the number of U.S. citizens.
That tends to help blue states at the expense of red states.
But second, you see jurisdictions across the country, you know, New York and some left-wing areas in California that are allowing illegal aliens to vote in local elections.
And this clearly is the left's plan is to provide a path to allow non-citizens or illegal aliens to vote in elections, eventually federal elections.
That is their goal.
They're making the bet that you can import people, provide a path to citizenship eventually, but in the meantime, have an unsecure election system that those people can vote in.
And Democrats are making the bet that they're going to vote for Democrats.
That is the left's electoral strategy.
I mean, one way that we can combat that, which we've talked a lot about, is the SAVE Act, something that the vast majority of Americans agree with.
They don't want illegal aliens voting in our elections.
But to your original question, yes, we're very keenly aware of the dangers of open borders, of mass migration, and of an unsecure election system.
And we've got to move quickly on getting just basic common sense reforms like the SAVE Act through the House and the Senate and get them to the president's desk.
steve bannon
There's been a lot of controversy about this state, District 9, in Texas over the weekend.
You live in one of the most explosive growth.
You represent one of the most explosive growth parts, not just of Texas, but the country.
You have a reputation of being close to your constituency.
What is top of mind for them as they look at the midterm elections, sir?
brandon gill
You know, whenever I talk to constituents back home, they're fired up about immigration.
They're telling me, we want to support ICE.
We want you to support ICE.
We want illegal aliens deported.
And we're not just talking about criminals.
My constituents want every illegal alien that Joe Biden brought into our country out.
You know, I think that's something that we clearly had a mandate to do.
You know, if you remember back at the RNC, we were holding up signs that didn't say some deportations.
It said mass deportations.
That was the mandate that we received.
So that's probably the number one issue I hear from constituents.
I hear about the problem with the mass Islamization of the Dallas area and of the country and the West all the time.
That's something that people are worried about.
But they're also concerned about, and you mentioned the midterms earlier, about what would happen if Republicans lose the midterms.
I think Republicans, at least in my district, are aware that we're going to be dealing with two years of nonstop impeachment, that the left is going to throw everything they can at President Trump, just like they did in his first administration, because they know that if they can hold him up in impeachment defense or in some sort of legal defense, that takes attention away from doing all the great things that he was elected to do.
So those are the things that I'm hearing from constituents about.
And that's why we're continuing to fight to back up ICE, to back up the president in deporting illegals and to stop the Islamization and the Shariaization of our country.
Strengths Aligning for Action 00:04:23
steve bannon
Congressman, social media, where do people go to find out more about you?
Website, campaign site, social media, where they go.
unidentified
Yep.
brandon gill
We're all over Facebook, Instagram, Twitter.
We're now on TikTok.
I'm at rep BrandonGill.
You can find us there and keep up with all the work we're doing there.
steve bannon
Congressman, great job.
Thank you so much for joining us.
brandon gill
Thank you.
steve bannon
As long as Texas keeps sending guys like that to Congress, we're going to be in good shape.
Jenny Story, co-head or president of Patriot Mobile, just you're going to have a grassroots meeting again tomorrow.
But talk about what's happened over the last four or five weeks since you put the conference together, what you and the team put together.
We've got a couple of minutes.
I think what you did is what I see, because I've been overwhelmed more than any launch we've had.
You gave a permission structure for people in this great state to feel comfortable coming out and saying, hey, I'm not comfortable with this.
I don't understand it.
And I wanted to stop.
Can you tell us about that?
jenny story
I think we gave people courage.
I think that's what happened.
I think everybody was thinking it, but people were afraid to say it.
And by everyone getting in a room and being, you know, so much on the same page and just saying, hey, I'll take the slings and arrows, but we're here together and we're here to stand together and really just make sure that we get the messaging right out so that people understand the threat that we're facing.
And it's really, you know, the whole objective here, everybody that was in that room, and what I love about you is you love America.
We love this country.
We love the Constitution and we want to preserve the Constitution.
Someone said to me once, a conservative is somebody who wants to conserve the Constitution.
That's all we're trying to do is preserve it.
And we don't want outside laws or outside doctrine changing this great country.
And there's a reason why people want to come here.
It's because it is a wonderful country.
So I think that that event inspired people to work together.
And it's great to see these desperate groups or disparate groups working together.
And each one brings their own strengths and just leveraging off of those strengths so that we can save this great country.
steve bannon
We're going to take a short break.
What I like about bringing together is not just the disparate grassroots groups, because grassroots groups across the country always are having what I call inner squad scrimmages.
What I've seen here, it's actually united the establishment.
I mean, Governor Abbott stepped up.
He's put the Make Sure Saria Law Hand Patrick on the ballot, Proposition 10.
He's designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations.
Now there are things that have to happen.
They passed a law that needs some refinement.
Lieutenant Governor Patrick has called, listen to Brian Harrison, has called, I think, the Senate to have these hearings.
So there's a lot that the establishment is doing.
Look, we're going to take a short break.
Jenny's story is in the war room in the House after a short commercial break.
unidentified
War room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Give me a minute on that.
That, you know, and so many, and the people that volunteer for the precinct strategy, I don't have to tell you, you're not welcome with open arms.
The one thing I have seen here, and look, nothing's perfect, but I've seen Governor Abbott, which, you know, we've had issues with Governor Abbott.
I've seen Lieutenant Governor Patrick.
People are trying to pull together.
They realize something happened over the last couple of weeks.
People have worked on this for a long time, but something, a dam broke.
And so many citizens, every grassroots leader I talk to, people throughout the country saying their constituents are calling them saying, hey, what is happening in Texas and how we happen?
I know in Texas, you're having 120 grassroots leaders, faith leaders tomorrow for a working session of how they're run up for.
And the establishment seems to be on board with this.
How did that happen?
Because there's so many times the grassroots are fighting the establishment here in Texas.
jenny story
You know, I think power numbers, you know, when everybody comes together and you talk about the grassroots organizations that are coming together, I mean, these are the guys that endorse candidates and hold them accountable, you know, and do enforcement.
And so I think when you get all those folks in the room and they're like, okay, you know, let's actually do something here.
And we really were very selective on those that were chosen to attend based on people that we know aren't just speaking, but actually taking action.
Mike Lindell's Call to Action 00:03:31
unidentified
Yes.
jenny story
And it was very intentional.
It's been a lot of work.
But we hope that the results of this will be some very concrete action plans that I think other states, we've actually got folks from other states asking to attend, but the intent was to keep it as small as possible.
And we've had to.
steve bannon
We had Oklahoma and Arkansas the first time, and I've had those people on TV a couple of times.
Arkansas is scheduled.
Arizona, South Carolina, Minnesota, Mike Lindell.
Mike Lindell says the first thing he's going to do as governor is ban Sharia law.
I mean, it's so motivated him.
So it's been extraordinary.
Our audience knows Glenn's story.
Right.
Because he is such a guy with such incredible energy.
He's known as the face of Patriot Mobile.
Let me be blunt.
I know Patriot Mobile very well, and you're the one that makes it happen.
And you're the chief operating officer, and you're hammering it all the time.
So you're going to do the Patriot Mobile pitch.
Why should people right now make, look, it's the best phone service out there because you learn a top of all phone services.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
You support, you're a Christian-based company with Christian values.
You support the civilization, the Judeo-Christian West, and make sure that it's not destroyed by these outside forces.
But right now, what we need is people to do the switch.
Why should they do the switch and actually how do they do it?
jenny story
Well, it's quite easy.
I mean, if you have a modern phone or a new phone, you can do a QR code and we can switch you over.
Or you can call 1-800 or 1, sorry, excuse me, 972-Patriot and speak to one of our U.S.-based customer support team and they can switch you over.
steve bannon
This is going to be a U.S. citizen.
jenny story
This is right.
It's a U.S. citizen.
steve bannon
Scott keeps on with an East Texas accent.
jenny story
But we also have some folks out in California studying to be missionaries and ministers.
So we try to support people in any way we can.
But when you join Patriot Mobile, you're not just getting great cell phone service because essentially that's what you're getting and U.S.-based customer support.
You're also joining a mission because our mission is to defend our God-given rights and freedoms.
We are here to fight for that constitution.
We are here to fight for America.
And we're only able to do that because of members that join us.
And so I want to thank all our members for being with us and for allowing us to do all the things that we do.
I mean, we give more, we do more than just give money away.
As you can see, we are true activists ourselves and we are coalition builders.
And so you're really helping the movement.
And we believe that through our efforts, we are helping to save this country.
steve bannon
972 Patriot.
And you'll talk to a Patriot.
You'll talk to a U.S. citizen at the call center and they can walk you through everything.
jenny story
They can walk you through everything.
steve bannon
And you don't have to go to a phone store.
You can do the switch.
They'll walk you through the phone.
jenny story
You can talk to them, but you have to be a member.
steve bannon
972 Patriot.
972 Patriot.
Go check it out today.
I can't say enough about what you've accomplished in four, five, six weeks here.
It's just, it's been extraordinary.
And people around the country are noticing the energy and bringing people together and uniting around a cause that has to happen on March 3rd on the ballot prop 10 to prohibit Sharia law in the state of Texas, trying to get it on the November ballot and actually make it an issue that resonates with the folks in Texas so we can end this terrible system of suppression and oppression.
Mike Lindell, you've been so motivated by what the Patriot Mobile guys are doing here in Texas.
You've told me, what is your first act you're going to do as governor of Texas after you beat Amy Klobuchar?
You've already gotten Waltz out of the race.
War Room Posse Support 00:02:53
steve bannon
Klobucher's next up.
After you beat her, what's the first act you're going to take as governor?
mike lindell
Ban Sharia law has been a problem for a long time in Minnesota.
And I've said it's Detroit.
It's been the Trojan horse of this for probably a decade now that we've had to deal with it in Minnesota.
So that's day one, along with a few other things, a few other surprises.
steve bannon
Talk to me about, give me a minute on Your governor race, and then I want to pivot to what the war posse wants to hear was about your deals.
mike lindell
Yeah, you guys, uh, yesterday we had the big straw poll in Minnesota.
I was in the top three, I was number one in many, many, many, many caucuses.
And uh, but there's just three of us now, basically, and everybody else was so far down, they're not going to touch it.
This is for the GOP endorsement, which is in May.
But everybody, right now, I am campaigning every day and doing fundraising every day to beat Amy Klobuchar.
And you guys can check that out at mikelindellgov.com to help out.
It's mikelindellgov.com.
We need help right now.
We got to win Minnesota.
As Minnesota goes, the country is going to go and we're going to win Minnesota.
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steve bannon
They love you, Mike, because you're a fighter.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
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