Episode 5103: Stopping The Big Steal 2026 By Getting To The Bottom Of 2020
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And then what I said to folks here and folks on the street were saying this, and I agree with them, is that I said Tom Holman is more of a professional.
Tom Holman called me, not something Berbino or Noam would ever do.
But the fear I have with that is, is it we going to get more of the same but more efficient at this oppression?
I think right now, though, that Tom Holman's taking his marching orders from the president.
And what I understood and the reason that I believe there's an opportunity for something to do here, because just to be very clear, what the White House wants is for the scenes on the streets to stop because it's tanking their approval ratings.
And according to the president, it looks bad.
If Tom Holman does anything here that makes that continue on, the president's going to be on him.
The FBI executed a search warrant on an elections office in Fulton County, Georgia today, seeking ballots from the 2020 election.
Just last month, the Trump Justice Department sued the county to obtain those ballots.
And as recently as a week ago, the president has threatened retribution against the officials who tried to hold him accountable for his attempts to overturn the 2020 election in their state.
What Fannie Willis did to innocent people, patriots that love our country, what she did to them by indicting them and destroying them, he should be put in jail.
He's a criminal.
I hope they go into the votes which are being stored in Fulton County and take a look at a real look at those votes.
It was a rigged election.
Everybody now knows that they found out people will soon be prosecuted for what they did.
Ask you about something that is going on, a conversation that had happened.
A U.S. official is telling us that there was a conversation between Borders Ar Tom Holman and local officials, and that that conversation was, quote, precarious.
What do you know about that conversation?
Can you take us in the room?
Have you heard anything about what happened there?
As you should, and you should never get tired of doing that because he's being very serious.
So MS Now has some content, has obtained a copy of the first page of the search warrant and screenshots of some of the categories of the documents being sought.
We're going to have some information up on MS Now shortly, but I think it's important to note that this warrant is incredibly broad.
This is directly connected to other things that have been happening recently in Georgia.
Remember last night, folks, when we talked about the voter rolls in Minneapolis and the state of Minnesota and Texas, there's a map you want to put on the screen.
These are all the places where the Department of Justice has asked for requested the voter rolls, voting information.
All but four states have received requests from them.
The folks in green have complied.
In Georgia, okay, Georgia's on a map.
What color is Georgia on this map?
Take a look.
This is about not 2020, but it's about 2026 and 2028.
They are trying to affect this election right now, and they are using intimidation tactics because they're going to search long enough just to find a little something, just a little there there.
In December, there was a tabulator era, and the Georgia Secretary of State responded to it.
I just want to put this on the screen for folks.
Fulton County Elections Board admitted to making a mistake during the 2020 presidential election.
The county says approximately 315,000 votes cast during early voting were certified without the required signatures on tabulator tapes for poll workers.
Fulton County says two recounts verified the votes during the 2020 election.
They are trying to suggest, do not be surprised if the Republicans try to suggest that this tabulator era means something is really afoot.
Because essentially what the Trump administration is doing is using 4,000 armed soldiers, paramilitaries, to coerce Minnesota into changing policies on voting, on, they call them sanctuary cities.
They're trying to use our men to make us change the character of our state, which is illegal and unconstitutional.
I'm also pleased to announce I had a very good meeting with Attorney General, Attorney General Ellison.
And he has clarified for me that county jails may notify ICE of the release dates of criminal public safety risks so ICE can take custody of them upon the release from the jail.
And let me tell you why that's important.
I know people are a lot concerned, but the manpower has been setting law enforcement manpower.
Look, I've said this many times before.
I've said it for the last several years.
Give us access to the illegal alien public safety threat and the safety and security of a jail.
It's common sense.
It's safer for the community.
It's safer for the agent.
And it's safer for the alien.
Because anything would happen on the street arrest.
It just made common sense.
And for the people to argue, well, we're welcoming community because we want victims and witnesses of crime that are here illegally to feel safe to come to police without fear of their work with ICE.
We're not going to talk to the victim witness of crime.
There's no problem there.
They should feel safe to come to police and ask for help.
All we want is to talk to the person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked in a jail cell.
They chose to lock this person up.
That's what we want to talk to, the public safety threat.
So the argument is that protects victim witnesses of crime.
It's a bunch of crap.
Victims and witnesses of crime don't want the bad guy back in their neighborhood either.
So great progress were there with the Attorney General and local sheriffs.
Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard was spotted visiting the elections office during the search, raising lots of eyebrows.
There she is in the hat.
Intelligence Committee Vice Chair, Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, slamming Gabbard for attending the raid, writing in part, she's once again demonstrating her utter lack of fitness for the office that she holds by injecting the nonpartisan intelligence community she's supposed to be leading into a domestic political stunt designed to legitimize conspiracy theories that undermine our democracy.
This all comes just one month after the Department of Justice sued the county and as President Trump pushes for more than $6 million in attorneys fees from the now dismissed Georgia criminal election case.
I've heard from a lot of elected leaders that the midterms could potentially be a big problem, that the president is obsessed with the midterms, that the midterm elections could be their focus here, are their focus, to somehow do something like some of the things you just mentioned.
Just talk a little bit, if you could, about the president speaking in Davos that you're soon going to find out, making a connection again, as he has before, with operations within the DOJ and the FBI.
You know, John Mitchell under President Nixon investigated anti-war groups and investigated various groups and people that were seen as enemies of the president.
And we're beyond saying the Justice Department FBI have been weaponized.
They're now being weaponized to potentially change the outcome of the midterm elections.
That's potentially it hasn't happened yet, but that's how concerning and serious this is.
And it's all these safeguards that were put in place after Watergate are just being eviscerated.
And look, because one man, President Donald Trump, cannot accept that he lost the 2020 election.
And that's just the reality I think that we face here.
Telling to me that the Democratic Georgia State Senator Josh McClinton went so far as to say it is possible that the FBI lied in their warrant to try to get these ballots.
It's Thursday, 29th, January, Year of Our Lord, 2026.
You're in the war room.
So a lot going on, obviously.
The raid of the FBI to basically put hands on the physical evidence, what is a crime scene, because it held the physical evidence of the stolen 2020 election, and they know it was stolen.
That's where they're leaking oil about finally the FBI stepping in here.
Tulsi Gabbard is on the ground there, but and there, I'm sure there's national security issues related to this, particularly how it was stolen, but this is a crime scene.
The FBI is running this deal right now because it's a crime scene.
And there are a lot of criminals and a lot of criminals going to be rolled up in this.
I want to tell MSNBC or ShamWOW, whatever their network's called now, all their hosts, and particularly CNN today, complete and total meltdown about the raid.
Yes, it is about 2026 and it's about 2028 because, and this is what Minnesota is about too.
We are not ever going to allow you to steal another election.
Ever.
We're going to get set things right on 2020.
We're going to hold accountable and make criminal charges about the people that stole the 2020 election.
And in this case, it'll be in Georgia, but it's going to be many other places too.
In Minnesota, in Minneapolis, we're going to make sure we're going to get the voter rolls.
You're not going to have illegal alien invaders vote anymore.
The way that keeps you in office.
Jesse Kelly said it best.
Democratic Party is about 20%.
Also, Tom Holman.
And President Trump's strategy is to say, okay, I'm reasonable.
What do you got?
But it's not stopping.
And Metro Surge is not stopping.
Ben Berquam asked a great question.
Hold a government approach.
You got Treasury, you got IRS, you got DOJ, you got FBI.
They're going to set things right in Minnesota.
There's no bending the knee.
There's no blinking, right?
President Trump tried to accommodate.
You saw Ellison right there.
Ellison's big give is that he may allow Tom Holman.
Yo, dude, we're going to get the bad guys.
You're going to get the criminal element, and then we're going to deport all the other illegal aliens here.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
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We're going to go to Georgia and our all-star crew there for the raid, the FBI raid.
We're packed today, but there is going to be a cabinet meeting at 11 o'clock.
We're going to cut to the cabinet meeting.
President Guns, I think, say, dropped some bombs in the cabinet meeting.
So we're definitely going to go there.
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Today, this is the book that ties it all together about the foreign influence, foreign governments of Mexico, the Chinese Communist Party, and other globalist elites that are in the back paying for all this.
Tom Holman did say to Ben Berkwam, the great Ben Berquam, asked the best question today in this press conference about: Are you going to go after the people that are really in back of putting these riots on?
And Tom Holman goes, Just stand by.
You're going to have some big announcements and some accountability.
I do want to say because they're trying to surround MAGA and the Trump move, everything from media to entertainment, sports, all of it.
The Bruce Springsteen, Bruce, he's been whining.
He's, you know, he's such a blue-collar guy.
He's whining about Trump now for the last 10 years.
He's put out a new song, The Streets of Minneapolis.
Now, it took the crack War Room production team and our Denver RAV partners to really put some great video on this.
But let's go ahead and play a little bit of this song.
You know, it's like it's just a good feeling to know that the FBI was there, that they were following procedures.
Apparently, even the Shea Alexander, the clerk of the Fulton Superior Court, said that they were documenting everything.
I know that the Democrat narrative that came out last night was that, you know, they didn't know what was going to be happening, but the clerk, Shea Alexander, made it clear that everything was being properly documented.
And, you know, Steve, we just want people to follow the law, follow the law, and obey what's been requested and comply.
And, you know, none of this would have ever happened if they had complied to begin with and not been fighting every step of the way.
And, you know, if you have nothing to hide, you hide nothing.
And so to see people upset at this happening, it really makes you stop and wonder: okay, why are they upset?
Why is according to law?
For example, I sit on the Georgia State Election Board, and one of our codified responsibilities is to investigate.
And they've done everything they can to avoid an investigation.
And so we wouldn't be here if people just followed the law.
In fact, if we can get a panel up there, I want to get these folks so people can get reacquainted with them.
Garland Fabrito, and Sally, come right back to you.
This is called in narrative warfare, getting ahead of a problem.
You saw last night, I'm glad my team pulled that because it was Simone over there at that show the weeknight, which is from their perspective, a good show.
They bring the heat a lot.
They got a hit.
They're quite worried about the 315,000 uncertified votes that Georgia told them were certified.
And they say, oh, this has already been taken care of.
There was a thing and they apologize.
It was a clerical error, but it didn't mean anything.
And you'll know that these people are bad people if they try to make a big deal about this tabulator.
Talk to me about the evidence that was picked up yesterday.
Garland, if it had not been for you, I think getting a protective order on January 6th of 2021, right, we wouldn't even be here today.
But you see already that the MSNBC particularly is trying to get ahead of this narrative by saying, oh, yeah, but of course, of course, they admitted to a mistake, a clerical error.
315,000 hadn't been certified, but they really had.
And of course, Garland Fabrito and these guys came in or the state came in twice and checked in.
Nothing to see here.
Garland, what did we pick up yesterday?
And why is they so particularly concerned about this massive uncertified group of votes, sir?
Just to back up, to give you a little quick history, this case all started on November 14th of 2020 when at the Fulton County hand count audit, the senior poll managers, Susie Voils, Barbara Hartman, and others found counterfeit ballots during the hand count audit.
We know that these were counterfeit ballots because they were not creased from being nailed.
They were written on the on with toner instead of a writing instrument.
And they were on the wrong paper stock and voted the same way down ballot dozens of a row.
So we filed the original case that was myself and Caroline Jeffords and some others.
That was back on December 23, 2020.
And the judge, as you said, Steve, on January 7th, gave us the protective order that has been in place ever since.
We went up to the Supreme Court, got in one stand, and came back down.
They still wouldn't show us the ballots.
But there's so many things that are interesting about this narrative that you're talking about.
First narrative is, I think that we should be thinking about is why aren't the voters entitled to see the ballots of their own election?
And that is something that these crazed anti-Trump media keeps never will never address head on.
Every voter in America should be able to get access to their ballots after the election is conducted.
There's no reason to withhold them.
There's no link between a ballot and a voter.
There is virtually no excuse whatsoever for hiding those ballots.
And we have gotten the ballots from other counties.
Only Fulton County in the state of Georgia is resisting.
And I think the reason is, to get to your point, Steve, is that they know that these ballots will not up, will not add up.
We already know from the electronic records that Fulton County has certified at least 16,000 votes for which they have no ballot images.
If they have no ballot images, they have no ballots.
And then on top of all that, you've got, as you just said, the missing and unsigned tabulator tapes.
There are probably another dozen eras and things that will come out that Fulton County has done in order to try to backfill the results to make the 2020 election results look legitimate.
The FBI wanted me to also remind the audience that this is a criminal investigation.
They don't come down there just for civil.
And what they put that tape around yesterday, they considered that a crime scene because it was holding evidence of massive federal potential, federal crimes.
And we're finally going to have an opportunity to rub their nose in.
If it wasn't stolen, Rachel Maddow would have led the effort years ago to get these ballots out there.
You know, if it wasn't stolen, they would have rubbed our nose in all of them, right?
To prove that Trump and MAGA, in the war room, and Garland Faberita and Sally Grubbs and Jan Johnston, Jason Fraser, everybody was a bunch of kook wing nuts.
They would have rubbed your nose in it.
You would have known every aspect of it.
If you saw the long faces, the Georgia officials that got in there and blocked two members of the Georgia State Election Board from even walking into the thing like they were.
They were freaked out.
And then you see the media overnight.
It's the shock that happened when it happened and how they're like, why are people down there?
Why are they even down there?
And then this morning, they're tripling down.
Yes, media write this down.
This has everything to do with 2026, as does Minnesota.
We're never going to allow another election to be stolen like you've stolen them in the past.
The most important lesson of all this is about resilience and being anti-fragile.
This is the lesson of the revolutionary generation.
If you don't quit, you'll eventually win.
Remember, that war dragged on for eight years.
They had every opportunity to negotiate, every opportunity to compromise, every opportunity to just say, it's too much.
We'll cut some deal with the British and we'll come back in and we'll figure it out.
Remember, one member that signed the Declaration of Independence actually asked for amnesty when the, in, I think, September, October of 1776, less than 100 days after he had signed the Declaration of Independence, a guy from New Jersey, because of the British Army sweeping down and driving Washington back across the Delaware River into Pennsylvania.
It's easy to quit.
It's hard, particularly when you're an average citizen, it's hard to stand up.
The money, what they try to do, and sue you and mock you and other you.
Make sure you can't go out in public and do anything.
This is a magnificent lesson.
And we need to embrace this: of what it's going to take to win to save your country.
That's why these patriots, remember, on this show, we were banned by every platform in the world banned us, this show, because of two things: going after Fauci for the pandemic and the election integrity.
So, by the time that Favarito and the guys in 2021 finally got this and we were hammering, we were banned on every platform, and the show took off like fire.
People found the show.
Of course, Real America's Voice, obviously, our distributor, but people found the show in the podcast.
The show blew up.
Why people wanted information?
And yesterday is a payoff after years and years and years and years.
Favarito and Tamara could have quit.
Garland and Tamara could have quit.
Jason could have quit.
Sally Grubbs could have quit, picked up another topic.
Dr. Jan could have quit.
They all could have quit.
It's easy to quit.
This gets back to the lesson of Minnesota.
There are 20 million illegal aliens in this country.
They're just not going to magically disappear.
We're going to have to get tough.
And Tom Holman today, that was a reach out.
Like he's been there.
Tom Holman's a tough guy.
He's a good man.
I love Homan.
I love Bovino too.
I think Bovino did a terrific job.
And President Trump is showing, trying to be magnanimous.
Okay, what do you got?
And they're slapping him in the face.
Ellison and Fry, you know, Punk Fry and Walls are sitting there going, no, we're not, you know, we're a sanctuary city, nothing, but that's okay.
He's showing the country, President Trump's showing the country, hey, I'm trying to listen.
I'm trying to somehow accommodate, but they're not going to do anything.
That's our whole government.
You're going to have to, it's two sides that are diametrically opposed, like in Georgia.
And in Georgia, you got the same problem, Minnesota, because the controlled opposition of the Republican business establishment will always crater and always take the knee because they don't care.
As long as they get their tax cuts and their deregulation, they're happy.
They make more money.
They don't care about saving this republic.
They'll deal with Gavin Newsom if they have to.
They're not on you.
They're not with you on the social issues anyway.
They think you're a bunch of troglodytes.
Jan Johnston, where do you think we are today?
President's going to have a cabinet meeting at 11.
I'm sure he's going to have some things to say about this.
He is, I think, very focused.
And MSNBC and CNN should understand, Simone is correct.
This is about 26.
It is about 28.
Absolutely.
And Minnesota is too.
We're never going to ever allow you to steal the election like you did in 2020.
And you're not going to use illegal alien invaders, right?
And all these sham programs, refugee asylum.
It's not going to happen.
You know why?
Because the patriots in Georgia show you when you hunker down and do not give up and show resilience.
If we don't quit, we win.
What is the lesson for today?
Class, let's take the number two pencil out and write it down.
Because in Georgia, Caroline Jeffers and these heroes and patriots that had the Republican Party down there sticking the knife in them every day.
If we don't learn what happened in 2020, we won't know how to approach or how to direct elections, future elections.
So that's the lesson.
Although 2020 was a completely unexpected election outcome, it was the allegations of irregularities and inconsistencies that led to the investigations and the cases reported to us on the state election board that indeed there were violations of election law.
There was double counting of votes.
There was double scanning of votes.
There were allegations of possible counterfeit ballots that have never really been completely investigated.
So if we don't really complete the investigation and learn if and what happened in 2020, we will not know how to approach our future elections in a safe and really secure way in a trustworthy way.
Very simple.
So I celebrate this step that the Department of Justice took, the FBI, by obtaining the election documents.
We were still trying to negotiate, but Fulton County wanted to extract over $400,000 from the state election board just to produce documents that we absolutely did not think we could trust them to produce in the first place.
I just want to reiterate, this is a criminal investigation.
They're going to get to the bottom of this as a crime.
So MSNBC and CNN suck on that.
This is a crime.
That was a crime scene.
This is criminal evidence.
This is why you had the FBI down there, all the FBI folks and pulling the panel truck and everybody and everybody watching this and making sure everything's loaded up and then taken out.
Dr. Jan, I just also want to give your eyewitness account.
You're on the state election board.
Sally Grubbs is on the state election board.
You're officials in the election ecosystem in Georgia.
When you went down there, the Democrats in Fulton County made sure that they hunkered down and were Praetorian guard around what the FBI was doing and I think tried to slow them down.
Would they let you near anything, even to see what was going on, so you could be observers as you should have been?
Deve, we were not let in through the locked doors, although county official after a county official walked past us.
And every time they would open the door, Sally Grubbs or I would introduce ourselves and let them know that we were on the state election board and we would like to observe.
And we were turned away or declined every single time.
So we were basically kept outside of the warehouse area while county official, county elected official, county Fulton Board of Elections were all allowed to go in.
Sally Grubbs, why is it the Democrats, we're now five or six years into this?
Why have officials in Fulton County fought you every step of the way?
Why have they even yesterday not let you and Dr. Jan even near it?
I think the question people have, if there's nothing to hide, if they have all the evidence and all this evidence shows that President Trump lost in Georgia, why have they fought you guys for five or six years every day to make sure that yesterday never happened, ma'am?
And the best answer is usually the simplest one, which is if you have nothing to hide, you hide nothing.
And, you know, it really upsets me now, particularly because I sit on the state election board for it to be made into a partisan issue.
And it was clearly made into a partisan issue yesterday when Dr. Johnston and I did exactly what she said.
We would shake hands, introduce ourselves and say we would just like to observe.
After all, the state election board currently has a subpoena for the documents and contents that were taken by the FBI yesterday.
We just wanted to observe, and this is about, it really and truly is a nonpartisan issue.
This is about the citizens' votes.
This is about the citizens of Georgia and them being able to have confidence and trust in their elections.
And this is one thing I've talked about for years is the fact that if you allow illegal voting in any county, it affects citizens in every other county because I call it voter suppression.
I believe that's true voter suppression.
I know other people call it vote dilution.
But when you have this occurring in Fulton County, what about the citizens in other counties around the state that don't have these issues within their election process?
And then, you know, if we sit by and we allow it to happen in Fulton County, that dilutes or suppresses the votes of other citizens.
It doesn't matter how you vote.
Every legal vote should count.
Illegal votes should not count.
It's very simple.
And when they want to cover it up and obfuscate and keep us outside the doors and prevent us from watching as independent observers on the state election board, I think that speaks volumes.
I mean, the first time I found a pair of duplicate registrations, the same person registered twice at the same address, Fulton County's told me, you know, we don't even want to see that.
That's not our responsibility.
So what did I do?
I put it in an email.
I documented it.
I made public comment.
And by God, they took it.
And so once they did, I gave them, I've given them now 11,000 sets of duplicates just in Fulton County.
These are people registered two, three, four, five times in Fulton County.
Not even counting the people that moved out of state that are registered in multiple states.
I mean, this is why the DOJ needs voter rolls nationwide so they can check to see.
If you moved out of Georgia, you should not be registered in Georgia anymore.
But Fulton County will not take them off.
And you've got to ask yourself, why would Fulton County want somebody that doesn't live in Georgia on the voter rolls?
I've got the entire Georgia team, or let's say a representative group of this great group of patriots in Georgia, Caroline Jefferts, all the folks down there.
You have shown the nation what resilience is.
You've shown the nation what grit is.
You've shown the nation what perseverance is.
You've shown the nation what human agency is.
I told you, every day is not going to be a sunny day.
They're going to have some cloudy days.
Mondays over the weekend, there was some clouds coming in.
We're going to get to the sunlit uplands.
And the way we're going to get there is human agency.
Just like the revolutionary generation, we are not going to quit.
We're never going to quit.
Bruce Springsteen takes us out with the streets of Minneapolis.