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President Trump's Pro-Life Stance
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on this people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Wednesday, 28th of January, Anno Domini, 2026. | ||
| Harnwell here at the helm on Steve Bannon's War Room. | ||
| We opened there with a performance of Islamic prayer in a Christian place of worship. | ||
| And the reason why I wanted to do that, to introduce the show today, was because, according to some Islamic theologians, if you pray in Islamic, if you pray in Islam, whatever the place you happen to be doing, so that place is there for definitively a Muslim place of worship, an Islamic place of worship forever. | ||
| And I think the importance on that today, which sets up the tone somewhat of what we're doing, is the general theme of appeasement towards non-Christian forces. | ||
| That there, which you saw, was that it was a German church that had permitted an imam to chant the Muslim prayers during a musical concert, quite foolishly, I believe. | ||
| However, it's not all bad news. | ||
| You may recall last Wednesday, I think it was, we had the images and Frank Walker spoke to it from Stuttgart from their blasphemous Christmas Eve celebration there in the Stuttgart Ruttenberg Cathedral. | ||
| Guys, Denver, if you wouldn't mind, just thanks very much. | ||
| Just put that article up on screen if you wouldn't mind. | ||
| Well, some good news, if one can call it that, the Diocese of Stuttgart did issue an apology since we were on air and they said that these were liturgical deviations that had been too freely adapted for television. | ||
| So it's a bit of a mealy-mouthed apology, sort of we're sorry if you're offended sort of thing. | ||
| But at least they went to the effort to apologize because they realized that that horrible image that, you know, that will, I hope parents covered up their small kids' eyes as that was on. | ||
| That those were images that would not be out of place in some kind of science fiction stroke horror film. | ||
| So I thought we'd open the show more formally by doing a study in contrasts, something that we do occasionally here on the war room, where we indicate that a voice defending the voice perhaps in Western civilization defending Christian values is POTUS, President Trump. | ||
| And the voice talking about anything other than Christian values, anti-Christian values, will be that of the so-called Pope, so-called Vatican. | ||
| Well, it is definitely the Vatican, whether it's occupied by alien forces or not. | ||
| It's definitely the Vatican. | ||
| And so we'll have this study in contrast. | ||
| Let's start off with probably the only real substantial news that we can all be happy about, which is the March of Life and the speech, the words of encouragement that President Trump gave to that March, which were incredible. | ||
| It's a long time, Frank Walker, long time since I have seen any Catholic prelate coming out speaking so forcefully and coherently in favor of life and pro-life values. | ||
| Tell me, what was your reaction to what the president said? | ||
| Well, I think it's, I think it's kind of, I was impressed at first that he was kind of brave because he gets, has gotten in this administration so much pushback from the pro-life community that he, but he still came right out there and spoke for himself. | ||
| And of course, JD Vance gave the big speech, but he said, you know, he's fighting for intrinsic dignity of every child. | ||
| He used language that the Catholic Church actually uses a lot these days. | ||
| And, you know, he in this piece here, they say, you know, he asked people recently to be flexible on the Hyde Amendment. | ||
| So that's what they're angry at him about. | ||
| But, you know, he reminds everyone that, you know, he gave the court that brought down Roe v. Wade. | ||
| His strategy is to send it to the States. | ||
| He was the first president ever to speak at the March for Life, he reminded everybody about. | ||
| And JD Vance coming out there is a Catholic. | ||
| So that gives a new Catholic life, I think, to the pro-life movement, which has kind of fallen on hard times somewhat in terms of the church. | ||
| He reminded everybody about his big, beautiful bill and how the child tax credit. | ||
| He has all these programs that help people accept children, which is what the bishops are always going on about. | ||
| But they don't create a welfare state. | ||
| They don't fund, like in colleges, fund the first couple years of a woman's life with her new child. | ||
| No, they're just like tax-free accounts and protect Medicaid from funding abortion and pro-life things that he's really added. | ||
| There's so many of them. | ||
| In fact, they happen every couple of days. | ||
| You know, he's taken away the NIH funding for baby parts and the experimentation and stem cell lines. | ||
| And he has actually, you know, enforced the Hyde Amendment. | ||
| You know, I think that this thing about the Hyde Amendment that is an issue with Trump and the pro-life right now, it's part of him trying to send money back instead of to the insurance companies, but to the actual person, actual people, which would make people live, be a life issue for everyone. | ||
| And I think that's what's involved. | ||
| And unfortunately, he has like a little bit of a compromise that he may have to make in order to actually have a big pro-life policy in the long run. | ||
| Frank, let me just wheel back to something you said, because it's absolutely true. | ||
| I've been involved my first involved in the pro-life movement, starting in, what, 1996 on the political scene when I worked in Westminster for a pro-life member of parliament. | ||
| So that's, I mean, it's 30 years ago. | ||
| This autumn that will be 30 years, and you're absolutely right when you say that the pro-life movement is it's lost some momentum. | ||
| Now my reading of that is is because it actually got the fundamental thing that it was really coherent around doing, which is the abolishing of Roe Versus Wade. | ||
| That was the fundamental, I think, unifying point of the pro-life movement. | ||
| And when, thanks to President Trump's appointments to the Supreme Court, Roe Versus Wade was overturned um the the, the the pro-life movement has been sort of um shuffling around looking for a new reason to exist. | ||
| I think that's my reading of it. | ||
| Just tell me what your reading of that is before you move on. | ||
| Well, I think it's, it's. | ||
| Similar. | ||
| I think that the um pro-life you know so much, the pro-life movement has been thought of as a religious issue, but and then it creates this idea of pro-lifeism, but it kind of it's been a Republican issue. | ||
| It's been a current, a kernel of the uh, what I would call the Neocon, the Rhino Republicans, the George Bush Republicans that never really accomplished the pro-life things that Trump has. | ||
| It's been a a real point of their and and the Catholic bishops have followed along with that too of of their, their whole constituency, but that organization that that Mike Pence type of Gop Rhino Republican that the whole, the whole UH establishment supports. | ||
| They don't like Trump, they don't want Trump, and so those people have a hard time supporting Trump when Trump is pro-life. | ||
| So if he gives them an opportunity they're going to drive a wedge, they will, and so all of the establishments had the march for Life and they're kind of meandering around. | ||
| They don't seem to have the energy they have. | ||
| You know, and I think it's just, it's a political, it's like a, it's a way the politics is configured. | ||
| That's creating this situation they did. | ||
| The establishment really does not want Trump and his reforms. | ||
| I sometimes I think they weren't, they weren't glad to have Roe V Wade overturned. | ||
| I think they're kind of disappointing because it is because they're so, because they were so the, the Republican establishment, but the center-right conservative establishment right across the western world um, is so performative if they have an issue which they know turns on voters and a broad selection of their um, of their membership base. | ||
| If they have an issue around which they can fundraise, a perpetual, eternal issue that they can constantly be fundraising, like grifters that they are um, they're as happy as Larry In Larry's House. | ||
| The problem for them is when they actually somehow, through no real effort of their own, they actually achieve, or it is achieved for them, what they always claimed to do, to be in the game, to to bring about that they they, they have lost some degree of purpose, and I will never compliment him on any other ground, but I have to give a hat tip to uh John Paul Ii who, in his 26 and a half years at least succeeded in drilling the, the worldwide episcopate, | ||
| to protect and defend pro-life values in the public square and to make sure that the key Catholic politicians um uh, towed the line on that the the, the. | ||
| The problem, of course, that we're now seeing since the death of John Paul II is what happens when you get a non-Catholic who is the earthly head of the church and the head of the apex of the episcopacy, and they intervene in exactly the same way that John Paul II did, but not for the values of life, for values of crypto-communism, environmentalism, environmentalism, and of course... | ||
| the third world illegal invasion into the West. | ||
| Um, okay, you know, but I yeah, go ahead. | ||
| Well, and they they want now that that the now that the head of the church is like that, they're liberals, they want the seamless garment. | ||
| They hate the fact that Republicans have had control of this, have been able to use this issue against them. | ||
| So they are creating this seamless garment, and it's it's completely pervasive and it's entered into the pro-life movement. | ||
| Which is you're not pro-life if you are not for spending, having big Democratic government programs that are giveaways or have all these other issues like you just mentioned, like the illegal aliens. | ||
| Everything is life now. | ||
| And they've really tried to make a lot of efforts in that in the pro-life movement to turn it into a seamless garment movement. | ||
| And Trump undoes all that for them. | ||
| So okay, I think that's what he's saying, too. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| He does. | ||
| That's one of the things I always love about President Trump. | ||
| We're going to move on just after I give a quick shout out to one of the show's sponsors, to one of your favorite subjects, Frank Walker, Kissy Fernandez. | ||
| But before we do that, I just wanted to read out a quick of the choice quotes from President Trump in his statement to the March for Life. | ||
| I think it was the 53rd annual March for Life. | ||
| And this was published on the 22nd of January. | ||
| And this is what President Trump had to say: that he would always be a voice for the voiceless. | ||
| And he vowed never to tire in fighting to protect the intrinsic dignity of every child born and unborn, adding that he upholds the eternal truth that every human being is created in the holy image and likeness of God, blessed with infinite worth and boundless potential. | ||
| And because there are many Catholics in America, as well as Protestants, who look to President Trump for leadership in the Christian sphere. | ||
| Sometimes I say they look to him for spiritual leadership. | ||
| Sometimes I refine that. | ||
| They definitely look to him for leadership on Christian values in the political sphere. | ||
| And I think the great thing about President Trump being so clear and concise on this issue, on the pro-life issue, is that I think he's going to increasingly bring a lot of Protestants and evangelicals of goodwill on board on the pro-life cause. | ||
| Though recent developments, and we've covered this on the war, recent developments certainly have illustrated that the evangelicals are way ahead on that and coming in on what were the traditional socially conservative positions of the Catholic Church once the Catholic Church started to abandon those positions to fill the vacuum, as it were. | ||
| Okay, let's move on then. | ||
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| That's why central banks are flocking to gold and they're the ones driving up prices to record highs. | ||
| And I think early on today, folks, gold was pegging, I think, $5,100 per ounce. | ||
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| So, Frank Walker, Smoochie, Kissy Fernandez, the guy that some people, some Catholics, recognize as being the doctrinal chief of the Catholic Church, the successor to the Inquisitor of the Holy Office, formerly known as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. | ||
| I have no idea what stupid name, and I'm not even going to try to remember what name Francis gave the body, but this is the guy who's supposedly in charge of doctrine, protecting integrity of doctrine. | ||
| Impossible to say that without laughing. | ||
| And here we see that cardinal, Victor Manuel, heal me with your kisses, Fernandez, has come out with a strong attack on whom? | ||
| On us, the online community, of course. | ||
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| I think this is an indication, Frank Walker, that Smoochie, old Smoochie, starting to feel the pressure, the effectiveness of the Canon 212 and the war room audience, applying the full focus of our unyielding stare on all of their heretical, modernist, syncretical acts. | ||
| But talk us through what he said. | ||
| He did criticize ex-Cathodic condemnations online. | ||
| I'll take that as a badge of compliment myself. | ||
| Give us the lowdown, Frank. | ||
| Yes, they hate Catholics. | ||
| He said we must reflect. | ||
| This is speaking to his own dicastery, teaching them what they should focus on and what they shouldn't. | ||
| And we must reflect and think and analyze reality, but by listening to others, welcoming their perspectives, which allow us to perceive other aspects of reality itself through other points of view. | ||
| Pope Francis Cardinal urged more attention to the peripheries, where he said things are seen differently. | ||
| So, yeah, this is, I mean, I don't know if you've spoken to your friends over the years, liberals, they always say, well, reality, everybody's got a different perspective. | ||
| And you're arrogant if you think that your perspective is the only way. | ||
| If you have, you know, grown up in our modern times, and hopefully you've grown out of this idea, because the reality is that some things are true and some things aren't. | ||
| He says we need to invoke him, pray, and listen to him, and allow ourselves to be guided by him among the shadows. | ||
| That's where he is in the shadows. | ||
| No one, remember Leo said, Leo the 14th said, no one possesses the whole truth. | ||
| We must all seek with humility and seek it together in one big pile of humans, leading like the Pied Piper, following us off the cliff into this group reality. | ||
| Failing to keep a living sense of limits can lead to some kinds of deception that have fueled grave evils in history, including wars and mass atrocities. | ||
| I don't know about you, Frank Walker. | ||
| I have no idea what half of this is supposed to mean. | ||
| It's like a word salad, isn't it? | ||
| It's like what Steve calls a word salad. | ||
| It's like, imagine if Carmela Harris was in charge of the dichastery of the faith and she was asked to give a speech. | ||
| This is the sort of nonsense that she would come up with. | ||
| But the irony is, Frank Walker, they don't even believe this nonsense, right? | ||
| Welcoming other perspectives because no one possesses the whole truth. | ||
| Frank, since the Second Vatican Council, when have traditionalists perspectives been welcomed in the Vatican, right? | ||
| It's nonsense that even these people who are pronouncing it manifestly don't believe. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You can't change the reality of truth. | ||
| You can't change, you know, you can push the church out of the Vatican. | ||
| You can put a guy like Kissy in charge of it, but you can't take away the church that still lives there. | ||
| And that's what's gnawing at him. | ||
| That's what's driving him crazy. | ||
| Here, we're not so arrogant as to believe things here. | ||
| We're open to everybody's reality, even way out on the peripheries, not anywhere near the Catholic Church. | ||
| But it's those Catholics online out there, those no-nothings that have no degrees, that do not have important jobs like us, even though they've stolen these jobs. | ||
| They have no right to these jobs because they're not Catholics. | ||
| They're not faithful Catholics at all. | ||
| It's those people out there that think they know things. | ||
| They're arrogant and they cause mass atrocities. | ||
| And they're online. | ||
| So he's an anti-doctrine. | ||
| He's a chief of anti-doctrine, is what he really is. | ||
| Let's come back to the Leo XIV quote, the Pope Leo XIV quote that you mentioned in your summary just now, that no one possesses the whole truth. | ||
| That is particularly weird for someone who claims to be Pope to say. | ||
| Now, I don't know if the Catholic Church has ever claimed to possess the whole truth. | ||
| It certainly claims to possess the truth necessary for salvation, right? | ||
| The entirety of the truth necessary for salvation. | ||
| But the idea of possessing the whole of something, and the reason why it's strange, because that's the very meaning, the etymology of the word Catholic, which comes from the Greek kata, which is a preposition, and in the genitive means according to cata. | ||
| And then the noun, the holos, o-l-os, but o-omicron, with a rough breathing at the beginning. | ||
| So it's holos, cata, holos, which which becomes contracted to catholos as an adverb, which simply means according to the whole. | ||
| And even Aristotle used that term in philosophy three and a half centuries before Christ to mean universal when he was trying to define universal concepts with regards to particular concepts. | ||
| So cataholu in the adverbial form then becomes catolikos as an adjective. | ||
| And that's where we get the word Catholic from. | ||
| So for the Pope, the so-called Pope, someone who claims to be Pope, saying that no one possesses the whole truth, but the very thing that he is, that that's his job, you know, that's with all due respect, Holy Father, that is your one job, right? | ||
| Your one job as Pope is to protect the integrity of the Catholic faith, which has come down to us after 2,000 years from Christ and the apostles. | ||
| That is your one job. | ||
| And that is the essence of the universality, which is the Catholic Church. | ||
| That's what it means. | ||
| Catholic, according to the whole. | ||
| It's not everything. | ||
| It's not everything that there is. | ||
| We're not omniscient, but it's the truth of God. | ||
| It's the truth that God has handed out to us, so it comes from God. | ||
| So you're right. | ||
| It just really, really is off-putting to hear him say that. | ||
| It reminds me when Pope Francis said, well, there is not a Catholic God. | ||
| God is not a Catholic, you know? | ||
| It's like that. | ||
| It reveals the Pope is really slighting the church. | ||
| And then in a more base way, they're calling us know-it-alls. | ||
| Catholics are just people that think they know it all. | ||
| They think they know everything. | ||
| Well, no, we don't think we know everything. | ||
| We only think we know what the church teaches. | ||
| Other than that, we're all in the same boat. | ||
| We all have very limited perspectives. | ||
| We can only know so much, which is the whole point, like you say, of having the church and the church teaching. | ||
| It breaks us out of our ignorance and points us to higher things if we accept the faith. | ||
| And that's the whole point of it, but it's just awful that you have a guy up here doing this. | ||
| It is interesting to see what these people, like the so-called Pope and the prefect of anti-doctrine. | ||
| It is interesting to see what they're willing to have reasonable doubt about and what they have certainty over. | ||
| The certainty, we'll come on to this after the break, is on the migrants. | ||
| We'll do that straight after the break. | ||
| That's what they have, absolute, unflagging conviction that they are right about. | ||
| We must accept every migrant that wants to come from the third world into the West, and we must pay for them for their health and their education and all the rest of it, right? | ||
| When it comes to the things that actually belongs to them to believe, like the essentials of the faith, that's when they express doubt. | ||
| I will never forget the guy who's the head of the Jesuit order, which is the order of which Pope Francis belonged, General Soza, Father Soza. | ||
| He came out when they were discussing what Christ had said about the indissolubility of marriage. | ||
| This was about 10 years ago, I think, Frank. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| And Father Soza comes out and says, Well, you know, you're quoting the gospel here. | ||
| It was in some synod, I think. | ||
| One of the synods set to undermine the practice of the church. | ||
| He said, Well, you're quoting Christ here as saying this, but we don't actually know for sure what he said because it's not as if we had like tape recorders in those days to write down faithfully everything. | ||
| Yeah, that's like a beyond apostasy. | ||
| That's what they have doubt about, right? | ||
| That's what they're willing to express doubts about. | ||
| What's in the gospel and what has been practiced and lived for 2,000 years? | ||
| What you're not allowed to have doubt about is the third world illegal invasion into the West. | ||
| That is something that Christ is absolutely adamant about. | ||
| We have to accept it. | ||
| Folks, we'll be back in two minutes after this quick short break. | ||
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| Okay, so staying on the theme of the third world illegal invasion, we have two contributions from the United States and from Spain. | ||
| Both high-level contributions. | ||
| Let's start off with Archbishop Gomez, who's the Archbishop of Los Angeles, former president of the United States Catholic Bishops Conference. | ||
| And this is absolutely cutting, pulling out the rug. | ||
| So if you have President Trump on January the 2nd publishing his pro-life statement, the split-screen alternative that is what the so-called Catholic so-called bishops are doing against the administration on a matter which is entirely a prudential issue. | ||
| This is an issue that Catholics and men and women of goodwill are free to decide for themselves the best way of achieving the common good. | ||
| Frank Walker, you brought this to my attention earlier. | ||
| Tell me a bit about what Archbishop Gomez was saying and what the consequences of this will be. | ||
| Well, like you're saying, when it comes to actual church teaching, they blow smoke and they enforce silence, but they're like Pharisees when it comes to all these Democrat policies. | ||
| And that's what the bishops, one after another, after another. | ||
| Today, Bishop sites of the USSCCB migration committees out there. | ||
| Bishop Tobin, Cardinal Tobin is continuing to pound away at the administration at protest rallies. | ||
| The Archbishop of Minnesota and here in LA where they tried to pull off a protest, but it was shut down. | ||
| Archbishop Gomez is just hysterical. | ||
| The country can't go on like this. | ||
| The first task is to restore order and peace to our streets and insist on common restraint in the public discourse. | ||
| In the wake of last week's tragedy, I hope all sides in this conflict, federal authorities, city and state officials, and those protesting the enforcement actions will take a step back in the interests of the common good. | ||
| We are caught in a dangerous pattern of angry rhetoric, provocations, and violence. | ||
| It needs to stop. | ||
| Well, and he goes on and on. | ||
| It doesn't serve the natural interests. | ||
| It's bad for, you know, we have to hold them for accountability for breaking the law, but there's got to be another way. | ||
| But it all adds up to one thing. | ||
| Trump needs to back off on the deportations or it's just too much violence. | ||
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| So that's what his religion is. | ||
| That's what his mitre on his head is for. | ||
| He wants to make sure that Trump doesn't deport people because it's causing violence. | ||
| How is that a Catholic position? | ||
| The words of our Declaration of Independence do not distinguish. | ||
| It says, all men and women are created equal. | ||
| Our rights do not depend on the decisions of government officials or law enforcement officers. | ||
| We do not lose our rights based on the color of our skin or the language we speak or having the proper documents. | ||
| He added that part, didn't he? | ||
| I think he added that part to the Declaration of Independence. | ||
| Let's not forget that Archbishop Gomez of Los Angeles was never made a cardinal because Francis thought that he was too conservative to be made a cardinal. | ||
| And you listen to the drivel that he's coming out with and you think, if this guy is too conservative to be made a cardinal, God help us out of the people that he thought were quality candidates to be raised, right? | ||
| Well, I mean, 215 bishops made a movie about illegal aliens just last month, you know? | ||
| So, I mean, where there are no, you cannot be a conservative, you know. | ||
| That's why, like we were saying with the pro-life movement, it's just it's so it's so kind of sick in a lot of ways. | ||
| Now, while the results keep just piling up, you know, they just keep piling up from Trump. | ||
| Yeah, these bishops are not conservative. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| They can't be. | ||
| They're not conservative. | ||
| They're not conservative and they're not Catholic. | ||
| These people hate the Catholic faith. | ||
| The only thing more than the Catholic faith that these people hate is our faithful Catholics. | ||
| That's the thing that these guys really hate. | ||
| So let me, I mentioned two interventions here, one from America, one from Spain. | ||
| This is from the Secretary General of the Spanish Episcopal Conference along with its president. | ||
| And they were talking, right, against, in favor of, now you might have seen something about this, that the government, the Spanish government, has announced via presidential decree is going to regularize 500,000 invaders in Spain, give them residency permits, what have you. | ||
| And of course, the first consequence of that, depending on how quickly this is done, is that they will then scatter to the four corners of the European Union illegally, just as they illegally came in to Spain in the first place. | ||
| And you would think that the Catholic Church that traditionally had always been, I mean, one of the reasons traditionally over there since the French Revolution that the Catholic Church had been of a right wing, if you will, of a small C conservative political disposition was because it was motivated by protecting the social order. | ||
| Very substantially moved to protect the stability of the social order. | ||
| I personally think it was too much motivated by that reasoning, but I guess following the French Revolution, we know where they were coming from. | ||
| This is creating massive destability of the social order, the invasion, the ongoing invasion. | ||
| And on this, the bishops intervened and they said this. | ||
| And I thought, oh, when I saw the headlines, I thought, oh, fantastic. | ||
| Finally. | ||
| Because the Secretary General, the headline is, is that he, on the subject of this popular legislative initiative, it's called an ILP. | ||
| He said to regularize half a million migrants. | ||
| He says, social demands must be heard. | ||
| And I assumed, foolish Hanwell, that the social demands he was thinking about was that of his own flock, of his own people. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| It was the social demands of the invaders. | ||
| And given that the outrage, the political outrage against this measure in Spain is that it's not being introduced via vote in parliament because there's not the arithmetic there, which there would need to be. | ||
| They can't get the parliamentary consensus. | ||
| So they're doing this via, and some people say it's unconstitutional, but that this maneuver is going to be attempted at simple presidential decree, like President Trump regularizing 30 million illegals via executive order, that there would be a, there would be, or any president that attempted that, not President Trump, Biden or whoever, there would be immediate constitutional issues. | ||
| This is their justification. | ||
| This is the Spanish bishops justification, the Secretary General and the President of the Conference. | ||
| It is an exercise in democratic regeneration. | ||
| This is pure gaslighting, right? | ||
| This is anti-democratic, because it's by presidential decree, because they don't have the democratic mandate to do it. | ||
| It's an exercise in democratic regeneration out of respect for the initiative of hundreds of thousands of citizens and the decision of the Congress of Deputies, and also a way of helping to solve a serious problem in which dignity and the common good are affected. | ||
| Certainly not in favour of the common good of the Spanish people, which is why they don't want to support it. | ||
| But this, Frank Walker, this is the perfect illustration of the in-your-face contempt that Catholic bishops have for its own flock, right? | ||
| This is where they have the spine, right? | ||
| This is where they have the spine, and they will come out and give unyielding positions in the public square on the invasion, on issues that actually belong to integrity to the gospel or coherence to the gospel, in line with the 2,000 years of Catholic Christian practice. | ||
| Then it's all, well, you know, no one has the whole truth. | ||
| Who are we to judge? | ||
| In all the rest of it. | ||
| The reason why they take these points of view, Frank Walker, is because they have contempt for Catholics. | ||
| And it brings me on to the point that I say again and again on this show. | ||
| We, the faithful, must take, if we are to defend Western civilization and our societies and bequeath to the next generation a society which is recognizable as the one we grew up in, but better thanks to the improvements of human progress, we must resist with all force these people who call themselves our pastors because they are not. | ||
| They are enemies. | ||
| They are enemies to the Catholic faith and what the Catholic Church spent 1,962 years building up Western civilization. | ||
| These people are determined to undo and destroy in just a couple of generations. | ||
| Folks, don't go away. | ||
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| So let's do an interesting article here, which appeared in a Protestant magazine talking about the law of Rome. | ||
| And this is about the two-way conversion between Protestants and Catholics. | ||
| And I have to say, I didn't realize that the conversion rate was so strong in Protestants' favor. | ||
| For every, I don't know, about eight, for every eight Catholics that convert over to, for everyone Protestant that becomes, for every one Protestant that becomes Catholic, eight Catholics become Protestant, which was a very high ratio that I was aware of. | ||
| Frank Walker, you've read the report. | ||
| Tell me what stood out to you. | ||
| Well, I was surprised at the end because one of the two people that they profile in here in the end keeps her own Anglicanism and doesn't become a Catholic at the end. | ||
| But the thing that struck me the most about it is that it's really about Washington, D.C. and them some select university cultures and people who become Catholic because they like the nightlife, not the nightlife, they like the parties and the social scene and they see the influence. | ||
| They see influence and they see an intellectual integrity to it. | ||
| And they say it punches above the weight that you would think it was. | ||
| And I thought that was fascinating to me that they see that in Washington, D.C. at the center of power. | ||
| And I thought, well, of course, it's also the center of the swamp, the Catholic swamp. | ||
| There's a lot of money there too. | ||
| There's a lot of Catholic money. | ||
| But what she's talking about here in this article is that young people really wanting to become more professionals and more actual Catholics, not like just deep state Catholics. | ||
| A vibrant social scene and a smart, influential, conservative Catholic social group that they have in Washington. | ||
| It's bucking the anti-Christian trends. | ||
| And they say there's a lot of intellectual horsepower. | ||
| And it cites the pupil, like you mentioned there, that shows the larger group and how the Catholic Church is collapsing. | ||
| But, you know, this phenomenon, and this is all over the world of young people becoming Catholic. | ||
| This is flying in the face of the Leo Church, which is so anti-Catholic, like we've seen today. | ||
| And I'm asking, why is this happening? | ||
| Why is this happening around the world? | ||
| Because the church isn't making it happen. | ||
| And the last time this was happening before was like 20 years ago, this is when Benedict was there, which was sort of a rallying when Benedict was newly pope. | ||
| What is it now? | ||
| I asked myself. | ||
| Is it Trump? | ||
| Is it Trump that's somehow creating this intellectual resurgence of Catholic power? | ||
| There's a lot of powerful, intelligent people in the administration. | ||
| I mean, look at the spokesman that's having a baby now. | ||
| She's a fiery spokesman. | ||
| And she's a great asset to the, and that's just, you know, she's just a spokesman. | ||
| There's a lot of, I think, I think we see a world divided by globalists and Nazis, which are undemocratic, which we see in that Spanish church story that you just told me, which represent, don't even represent Catholics. | ||
| They don't even represent most of the people. | ||
| They hate the people. | ||
| They work against them. | ||
| That's the Davos crowd. | ||
| But the Trump crowd, together with Putin and the strong countries in the world, is fighting successfully against that. | ||
| And I see this rise in young Catholics as being sort of coming out of that sense of, you know, that sense of opportunity, you know, and the sense of power and direction. | ||
| I think that's driving a lot of this Catholic growth. | ||
| You asked the question whether President Trump could be a motivating factor for the vibrancy and the resurgence that's taking place, not just in the Catholic Church, but across the various Christian denominations. | ||
| And I think that is part of it because it's finally undoing the idea that what the progressive movement relied on so much since the 60s, that the inevitability of their cause was going to win in the end. | ||
| And that's really been defeated since President Trump descended the golden escalator. | ||
| I have to say, we've spoken about this, we've both spoken about this, both on this show and elsewhere, that one of the factors I think is social media. | ||
| And though I don't like Elon Musk, I have to tip my hat to him in the diversion of algorithms on Twitter, on X, towards people who are being very coherent and courageous in the defense of their faith. | ||
| And I also think the third factor will be the martyrdom, just the appalling violence and hatred that lied behind the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| That I think is also a factor behind the revival. | ||
| I quickly mentioned, because you mentioned it, and it's one of the things that I underlined myself in this, right at the end of this article, which is in World Magazine, by the way, folks, which is a Protestant magazine. | ||
| The case study, one of the two case studies says that the girl in Yen decides not to do so after she went back and studied the C.S. Lewis letter from 1945 about converting to Catholicism. | ||
| And C.S. Lewis came up with three reasons. | ||
| You know, we should talk about this on another occasion because it's not time now, because they definitely require analysis and it's present in every conversation I have with Protestants, these three issues, one way or another. | ||
| But the three issues that C.S. Lewis cites for not converting to Catholicism, though he was so Catholic in many, many ways, was Mary, the papacy, and transubstantiation. | ||
| And I have to say, having been a Protestant 25 years ago once and talking to Protestants still, the Protestant idea of what Catholics believe on those three issues is very different from what the Catholic Church actually teaches. | ||
| And the other factor is what most night, what 99% of Novus Ordo Catholics who don't even go to Mass on Sunday will tell you those three issues are. | ||
| They will be even more different from what the church believes. | ||
| But, you know, Frank, I can't come to you on this story because we're closing now. | ||
| And I hear that the music is already starting in the ears to signal the end of the show. | ||
| Very, very quickly. | ||
| What we would have spoken about, perhaps we'll hold it over to next week, is this story about the council that they're convening in the diocese around Paris because they have so many baptisms now, up 40% on last year. | ||
| They want to have the correct approach to that. | ||
| My fear, Frank Walker, is that their approach is going to be to stamp on the embers because once they start talking to these 20-year-old kids who are presenting themselves, they're not going to want to bring them in the church. | ||
| Frank Walker, you are on top of all of these things on Canon 212. | ||
| Where do people go to keep up with all the stories we talk about on Wednesdays throughout the week? | ||
| Yes, Canon 212. | ||
| Type it up in the address line and also at Twitter, Canon212212 spelled out. | ||
| And then you can see the daily update at the site and on Rumble and at Gloria TV. | ||
| And you do do a very engaging daily synthesis of that on Stumbling Block and also on Canon 212 in just like five minutes to explain the details. | ||
| Alright folks, thanks to Spencer and Will, the crack team at Real Americas of Voice in Denver, and to Cameron Wallace, our producer. | ||
| We'll be back next Wednesday. | ||
| Stay safe. | ||