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Episode 5065: Using Local Sheriffs To Save The States; Trump Policies Spearhead Economic Growth

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Local school kids in Minneapolis en masse walking out of their school to tell Trump's federal agents to leave them alone and get out of their town.
Tonight we're going to talk about what Minnesotans are doing to try to protect their schools, forming human chains around Minnesota public schools at pickup and drop-off.
The Wall Street Journal reporting this weekend on a surge in quote volunteers, many of them moms already involved in their schools, using Google Docs to divvy up tasks such as delivering groceries to immigrant families.
Volunteers are on hand at drop-off and pickup at schools with whistles to blow in case ICE agents show up.
The Immigrant Defense Network telling the Washington Post that they have trained about 2,000 people total to be ICE observers in the Twin Cities.
About 2,000 people total, but then the day after ICE killed Renee Nicole Goode in Minneapolis, they got a huge surge.
They had 354 people show up in one day the very next day to be trained to be ICE observers.
354 people showed up in one day.
My police ignore. I'm disabled.
The mayor saying, quote, Donald Trump should know that as long as federal agents are in our city acting unconstitutionally against our neighbors, we will continue to push back with everything we've got.
Here are Democratic members of Congress turning up at the local ICE detention facility, the local ICE jail in Minnesota, demanding to be let in because as members of Congress, they are allowed by law to inspect any federal facility like that at any time with no notice.
But these members of Congress were nevertheless turned away.
Today, Democracy Forward went to court to force ICE and force the Trump administration to let those members of Congress in because that, in fact, is the law.
And again, if they were hoping that their shambolic and chaotic violence would dissuade Americans from standing up to them.
Well, they do not understand Americans.
They do not understand how we are wired.
It is having the opposite effect.
We're giving 90-day notices to places like California, Scott.
Right away, we're going to send out that notice.
Who would bill the federal government as people poured into the state?
To send those people back because no country can afford to do it.
No country can afford to take in millions of people, pay for their education, their health care, their hospitals.
You just can't do it.
And we all have a heart.
You can't do it.
But many of those people are murderers.
They're people released from jails, prisons, mental institutions, insane asylums.
They're people that are drug dealers.
They're addicts.
Additionally, starting February 1st, we're not making any payments to sanctuary cities or states having sanctuary cities because they do everything possible to protect criminals at the expense of American citizens.
And it breeds fraud and crime and all of the other problems that come.
So we're not making any payment to anybody that supports sanctuary cities.
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
It's Tuesday, 13 January, Year of our Lord 2026.
Thank you for coming to the afternoon, late afternoon, early evening edition.
Now, you know the early evening edition on Monday, Tuesdays, and Thursdays.
The 6 o'clock show is War Room, Texas, and we're going to have a great crowd there tonight, a great group of people.
Don't want to miss that.
About the Islamic takeover of the great state of Texas.
But I want to start first.
Rachel Maddow is telling you, you see how unctuous she is?
How she's all puffed up up there in that barn making that $20 million a year?
What we Americans, she doesn't understand we Americans.
Lady, you are trying to protect 15 to 20 million illegal alien invaders who are certainly not Americans to stay inside this country.
And you're trying to stop federal officials from performing their tasks under the Constitution.
We played the cold open this morning.
All these lawsuits that the mayor of Minneapolis has and Walls has, who are all going to go to prison for the scams they've got in bed with the Somalians, including the Attorney General Ellison, you're all up to your neck in it.
You're going to tell Americans, you're going to tell hardworking, patriotic Americans and law enforcement and ICE agents, oh, they don't understand how we Americans are.
You're instigating.
I don't know why we're not rolling up MSNBC.
Oh, excuse me.
Sham Wow.
It's the new name is Sham Wow.
That's the new, was it MS Now?
Sham Wow.
Remember that guy that had the chamois giving you a shine on the hood of your car?
The Sham Wow Network is instigating violence against federal.
You see that clip right there?
We could have played hours of that type of stuff.
Sheriff Mack joins me.
Sheriff, when I have these questions about law enforcement, you're one of the first people I turn to.
What are federal agents supposed to do?
And what recommendation would you give to the president of the United States?
Now, he's going to cut them off on the 1 February.
No money there.
Before that, on 20 January, if we head down this path, the radical Democrats are going to try to shut down ICE by defunding it.
And so I think we're going to a government shutdown, but that's fine.
That's fine.
On 1 February, the president just said he's not going to send any more cash to these sanctuary cities.
You've had this problem in Arizona with sanctuary cities, all of it.
What's your recommendation to the President of the United States of what actually ought to happen here, sir?
Well, first of all, the sheriffs in those major cities, I mean, look at Chicago.
It's Cook County.
Sheriff Dart is the sheriff there.
He's been completely silent.
And if the sheriffs in Portland and Los Angeles and Chicago and Minneapolis would stand up and say, our job is to keep the peace and protect people from crime.
Getting rid of criminals that were brought in during the Biden administration is what we're supposed to be doing.
These sheriffs should be showing a lot more leadership instead of standing on the sidelines.
So I would recommend also most of the sheriffs in this country support Trump.
And if I were Trump, I would right now, if I was sitting right next to him, in fact, I would love to help him with this.
Invite the sheriffs of those areas and especially the surrounding counties to come to his office and come up with a game plan to help DHS and ICE.
I've already talked to Tom Holman about this several times and get these sheriffs on board.
A lot of these sheriffs are already in 287G training.
I've talked to these sheriffs.
They want to help.
And the states are now trying to go after the sheriff.
We just got back from Washington state where the sheriffs are being sued, being attacked by their own governors and their own AGs.
A.G. Brown is suing Sheriff Wagner in Adams County because he's trying to help ICE get rid of criminals out of his county.
And the AG is actually showing his lawlessness and his ignorance in going after the sheriff that's trying to go after criminals.
And so I believe that...
Hang on a second.
Hang on.
I want to hang on.
Hang on.
I want to make sure people understand this.
I want to make sure I understand it.
You're telling me in the great state of Washington, there's sheriffs up there that are supporting ICE, which they're sworn to do.
They're supporting ICE and ICE going through their federal duties to extract these illegal alien invaders and that the state attorney general is suing the sheriff?
Yes, that's exactly correct.
100% correct.
And we just had General Flynn and I were at a meeting there at a big rally, standing remotely at the Experienced Church in Puyallup, right outside Tacoma.
And the sheriffs are at a loss what to do.
So we were trying to give them some direction and let them know they're doing the right thing.
And Sheriff Bob Songer says, I don't care what the AG does.
I'm going to continue to help ICE, Sheriff Schwank in Pierce County, second largest county in Washington state.
Same thing.
But Washington state is the worst state in the Union for destroying the office of sheriff, attacking the sheriff, and defending the criminals.
that invaded our country in the first place.
How can you, when you look at Washington, you look at Minneapolis, I mean, it's no doubt it's chaos and anarchy because the people that are breaking the law, the illegal aliens that are invading us here, but the Rachel Mattas of the world and all these people put the kids, they're using kids as human shields around the schools.
I mean, what then is to be done?
What can the sheriffs actually do when you have American citizens that are actively breaking the law and trying to instigate more violence, sir?
Well, the sheriff and his deputy should be there with those ICE agents, and they should be defending those ICE agents and working with them.
The sheriff's office and the deputies should be clearing those streets for ICE and providing safety and security for and backup for their fellow police officers from the federal government.
Look, the Constitution clearly delegates to the federal government protecting our borders from invasion and in Article 1, Section 8, the laws of naturalization.
And so, of course, this is a federal issue.
And the states are trying to, oh, it's unconstitutional.
What's unconstitutional?
Show me the provision in the Constitution that shows that ICE is outside the Constitution.
You guys are crazy.
You're liars.
This is exactly what the problem that Biden dumped on everybody's lap.
And now these horrible blue states want to join in and do and double down on it.
Can you believe that there are law enforcement officials doing this in Minneapolis and other states?
I cannot believe it.
We got about a minute real quickly.
What's your recommendation to the president about this conference you want to have or this group of sheriffs you want to go back to advise him?
What would you recommend to the president?
Because he'll see this clip.
I can give him the list of the sheriffs in these areas to get invited to the White House, get them on board, send them back, and let's create peace and tranquility in these areas where you're seeing this mob violence supported by governors and mayors and others.
It's unbelievable.
Give me a call for you.
Where do people get you?
What's your website?
What's your social media?
Where do people go get you?
CSPOA, Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association.
There's our website.
Call me, email me.
Please give the president and his staff my number.
I'll be happy to come help.
Sheriff Mack, we need you now more than ever, you and the Constitutional Sheriffs, because we're hurdling folks to a constitutional crisis.
They all got to go.
All 15 to 20 million of them got to go.
Got to go.
So, Rachel Maddow and your crew, suck on that, baby.
Short commercial break.
Philip Patrick's going to be here.
President Trump at the Detroit Economic Club moments ago gave a very powerful speech on the state of the economy.
E.J. and Tony is going to be with us.
Philip Patrick is going to be with us.
Please stick around.
During the afternoon and early evening edition of The War Room.
I'm going to revoke the citizenship of any naturalized immigrant from Somalia or anywhere else who is convicted of defrauding our citizens.
We're going to get them the hell out of here fast.
And if you come to America to rob Americans, we're throwing you in jail and we're sending you back to the place from where you came.
We're throwing you right in jail.
As we liberate our country from this cultural scourge and the plague of corruption and fraud, we'll rediscover the natural energy and native spirit that truly makes America great again, like we're doing with Detroit and Michigan.
If we get rid of fraud and do our job properly on the trillions that are being extorted out of our country from corrupt and incompetent governors like Gavin Newscomb, J.B. Pritzker, and Tim Waltz, we will very soon have a balanced budget, and that's the kind of money that we're talking about.
We're talking about massive amounts of money.
Our country wasn't built by people who tried to lie and cheat and scam their way to success.
It was built by legends like Henry Ford, Henry Dow, Thomas Edison, the Kellogg brothers, Alfred P. Sloan, the founder of General Motors, men who lifted up American workers and strengthened our nation beyond even belief.
And we're doing the same exact thing right now.
I think we're doing it even better.
This is the fierce spirit of patriotic free enterprise that we're now unleashing.
Once again, we are unleashing it like maybe never before.
Last week we announced that I'm creating a brand new division at the Department of Justice, a legal strike force led by a really tough, smart new Attorney General for Fraud.
He's a fantastic young guy.
He's so impassioned to do this properly.
We intend to imprison any fraudster, politician, or public official involved in these sick plots to loot and pillage our country.
In addition, I proudly called for the credit card companies to cap interest rates at 10% for one year because they're getting 28 and 30% and 32%.
And it's unfair.
The rates are way too high.
As part of those efforts at Davos next week, I'm going to provide much more detail about our housing policies so that every American who wants to own a home will be able to afford one.
We have some great things happening with housing, as you know.
You saw the $200 billion buy-in on bonds and mortgages.
This will include a ban on large institutional investors buying up single-family homes all over the country and making it impossible for people to buy a home.
And I've also announced that the U.S. government is purchasing $200 billion of mortgage bonds to bring down mortgage rates, and it's had a huge impact.
It's already started.
And just last week, the average 30-year mortgage drop below 6% for the first time in many years.
December Reid on Consumer Price Index, we're expecting a headline number up three-tenths of a percent, and it delivered.
That's exactly what we received, up three-tenths of a percent.
Now, if you look at the previous month in August, it was up four-tenths.
September, it was up three-tenths.
So this fits right in.
If you look at X food and energy, known as CORE on a month over month, it's a tenth cooler than expected.
It's up two-tenths.
Now, if you look at year over year, up 2.7 expected, 2.7 arrives.
The one glimmer here on the year over year is the core comes in the tenth light to expectations, but the 2.6 level is where we've been.
And my favorite numbers, and they really are my favorite numbers, Joe.
If we look at the index, the index on the non-seasonally adjusted index, this started in 1913.
The index number, 324.
And why is that important?
Because once again, it's a new all-time high.
Pretty much, not all the time, but pretty much every month, we get a new all-time high.
1913.
And if you look at the 1957 rendition, which is the core CPI, it comes in at 331 and change.
And of course, that's also an all-time, all-time high.
So, Philip Patrick, I've got you on to make this make sense to me.
You know, the president is now in a throwdown with the chairman of the Federal Reserve.
It looks like the markets are supporting the president.
I mean, they're either meh or a little bit of turbulence in the bond market that that settled out.
Stock market yesterday.
I think S ⁇ P 500, all-time high.
Did a little bit of retreat today, but not much.
I mean, the markets are supporting him.
You got this, I think, excellent print or very good print on inflation today.
And, of course, President Trump's down there talking about how we're not going to keep spending on all these social programs.
So they're obviously stealing the money.
In addition, he's got populist economic, you know, he's braced up the big banks.
We got a cap interest of 10%.
I want to get affordability.
I want to get mortgage rates down.
And all of this, gold is yesterday.
I think gold's all-time high yesterday, backed off a little bit today, basically near $4,600.
And of course, silver on fire at 86.
Make it make sense for us, sir.
That's a tough one.
Listen, this is a crazy climate we're in.
There's no question about it.
I think President Trump today did a very good job highlighting the successes so far of his administration.
He highlighted how capital investment has surged under Trump, how growth has accelerated without massive new entitlement spending, as we saw under the Biden administration.
Energy costs, very importantly, have stayed contained.
That is a tax cut for working families.
I think there's definitely a lot of work to do still, right?
Growth, although accelerating, GDP numbers are strong.
It's highly concentrated on the back of AI infrastructure and data centers.
It's going to take time.
That's capital intensive growth.
It's not yet wage-driven growth.
So I think it's going to take time for people to start feeling that.
But we're heading in the right direction.
Trump needs the Federal Reserve to start playing ball.
I know there's questions over Trump's pressure on the Fed and their independence.
I think Scott Besson had a small freak out about that.
Definitely the administration's not going to do anything to threaten the Fed's independence.
I'm sure of that.
The problem in my mind with the Federal Reserve.
Hold it, hold on, Philip, Philip, Philip, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, brother.
Trump's gone full Andrew Jackson.
He has a criminal investigation underway because of the cost overruns.
And quite frankly, Powell's given some not great testimony in front of Congress.
He's gone full Andrew Jackson, these guys.
And the Lords of Easy Money, I mean, Jamie Dimon and all these guys may have a problem.
Oh, you know, they sit there and they knit their brow and they're saying, you know, we need an independent Fed.
Well, the money got the stock market hit an all-time high yesterday.
And the bond market's no real turbulence.
I mean, isn't the money, the money gets a vote here.
Isn't the money saying we're fine with Trump?
Independence is overrated because Trump's making us so much money.
The economy's turned around under Biden is about to collapse that the guys running the economy and making us so much money.
If he wants to take on all the Fed chairs, because all the Fed chairs and the U.S. Senate, the banking committee, and all those guys are all sitting there going, Trump's the worst.
We need an independent Fed.
The money's not telling me that, is it?
Listen, not dramatically.
Look at what happened in France and the UK.
The bond markets are not revolting in that respect.
You're absolutely correct.
Flip side, though, we've had five rate cuts in the last two years.
Borrowing rates have stayed fairly firm.
In a normal climate, rates should have declined.
So, yes, bond markets aren't freaking out yet.
They're certainly happy with the direction Trump's heading.
But Scott Besson's reaction, you know more than me, I'm getting this from the Daily Mail.
There's people within the administration trying to calm this down a little bit because I think if it goes too far, we may start bad.
I think it should be noted that there wasn't a lot about Powell in today's speech.
And Scott Besson did fly on Air Force One out there with President Trump.
But so make this make sense to me.
We've got, I think, a carrier strike group somewhere in the Straits of Malacca heading toward the North Arabian Sea.
It's all the discussion tonight he's going to strike Iran.
And I think if he had a target set that said, hey, bang, you drop one there and the Ayatollah falls.
He may, you know, he may think about that, but I'm not so sure that target's set.
We keep saying just keep the economic pressure on.
This thing is collapsing.
You've got Greenland.
The Danes are getting ready to send some special operators to Greenland.
You've got, obviously, the situation in Venezuela.
Is the geopolitics like, why is gold on fire?
And why is silver on fire when you've got these other markets that are not really in horrible turmoil because of President Trump's challenge?
Just like Andrew Jackson, like Andrew Jackson said, hey, we don't need a central bank, but if we got it, the people are going to control it, not the bankers.
And I think Trump's saying the same thing.
Why is gold and silver on fire, sir?
Listen, there's so many forces driving it.
We've got inflation.
We've got de-dollarization.
We've got geopolitical instability.
It's like the perfect storm for physical precious metals that we're seeing.
By the way, I want to say something on foreign policy.
It's interesting.
Like, there is a world where things land right.
We have a free Iran.
We have a peacekeeping force in Gaza.
I mean, this could be some absolute genius.
We'll see how it plays out.
But this is interesting times we're living in.
I think putting economic pressure on the Iranians, that's 25% tariff for anybody doing business with Iran.
That's probably the smartest thing to do at the moment.
But interesting times for sure.
And I think gold will continue to thrive in these climates.
I tell you what, Philip, can you just hang on for one second?
I just want to hold you through the break.
EJ and Tony is going to join us.
Philip Patrick is with us.
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By the way, in the box, we're going to put the box of the president of the United States getting out of the helicopter.
He's going to be heading back to D.C.
I think he's getting a big national security briefing this evening when he arrives.
So everybody's on tenter hooks about this situation in Iran where the Persians are in the streets trying to overthrow the Islamic Republic.
They've done such a great job in the last, what, 46 or 47 years.
People are so thrilled.
They're in the streets.
And there's a report today maybe 10,000 or 20,000 dead.
I mean, there's a report there.
This slaughter could be a lot bigger.
President's trying to weigh more economic pressure.
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Short commercial break, Philip Patrick Jordan's E.J. Antoni on the other side.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
The great Scott Adams passed away this morning, gave his life to Christ at the end of his life.
Just got worried, came across the wire.
I'm trying to check this out because I think he's part of the Trump administration.
I thought he was an ambassador.
Former Arizona Attorney General Mark Bernovich has passed away.
We'll get more details on that.
Remember, Mark was on the show many times during the big steal in 2020, trying to find out what in the hell went on there and get to the bottom of it.
And I think he was potentially going to run for governor or the Senate.
He was really a rising star in the Republican Party.
So we'll get more on that as soon as we get it.
E.J. Antony joins us.
E.J., talk to me about the numbers you saw this morning, the print on inflation, because Treasury is talking about a disinflationary boom that's coming, given we're just getting traction now on the supply side part of the Big Beautiful Bill.
Plus, unless the Supreme Court upends it tomorrow, which may be a possibility, the commercial relationships of the world are changed because of tariffs and trade, and it's acting as a forcing function to bring capital investment back here, but it doesn't look like it's causing inflation.
What's your analysis of the math?
Well, Steve, thanks for having me.
Real quick on tariffs, the Supreme Court has a lot of different ways they could go here, not the least of which, which my sources are telling me is a growing possibility among the justices, is that they may decide to essentially say that the IEPA tariffs are unconstitutional, but for the sake of not causing chaos, they may allow existing ones to stand and just not allow future ones.
So that means new tariffs would have to be implemented with things like Section 232, for example.
So the president still has a lot of tools in the toolkit, so to speak.
It's not as if he will be down and out if the ruling doesn't go his way to one degree or another.
Now, in terms of the math that we just got today, both the numbers out of the Treasury and the numbers out of the Bureau of Labor Statistics were pretty darn good overall.
Not great, but good.
In other words, we're heading in the right direction.
We are continuing to see a general disinflation trend.
And by the way, core goods, a category which was supposed to explode in terms of prices because of tariffs, it hasn't.
In fact, in the last month, not only was the annual rate low, but the month-over-month rate was actually slightly negative, a fraction of a percent.
So instead of seeing costs explode here, we are seeing the cost of tariffs not passed on to consumers by and large, but mostly eaten by foreign exporters and middlemen, which is a great thing for the American consumer because those customs duties in the first three months of this fiscal year, Treasury just told us this afternoon, is up to $90 billion.
For context, in the previous fiscal year, when we still had Biden in office, that same category of revenue, these customs duties, the income coming in from tariffs, was only $20 billion.
So fourfold increase there, really tremendous progress.
This is helping reduce the deficit, which is significantly lower right now than it was this time a year ago.
And again, coming back to these inflation numbers that we're seeing at the consumer level, not only has inflation cooled, but wage growth has not.
That means paychecks are continuing to get bigger.
And more importantly, they buy more than they did a year ago.
They buy more than they did when Trump took office.
In fact, the average American's weekly paycheck, Steve, buys about 1.5% more now than it did when Trump took office.
Conversely, under Biden, that average weekly paycheck shrunk, at least in terms of what it could buy, by about 4 percent.
So that tells you two things.
One, we are course correcting.
We're heading in the right direction.
The boom that Scott Besson keeps talking about has already begun and it's going to continue.
But it also tells us that we haven't yet undone all of that damage from the Biden administration.
And I think that's how you square the circle of how can the economy be improving so much while so many people still feel dissatisfied.
We are still dealing with the hangover from the Biden years.
And we're going to have to take care of that.
Number one, as I said when people came out after the elections in November, oh my God, it's about affordability.
And they all fell into the trap of saying affordability.
There were tweets out there saying November 26th about affordable.
I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down.
You've got a plan.
You've executed the plan.
You're going to drive the plan.
And that's both the supply side tax cut and the trade and the commerce.
They're driving to a point.
Just focus on growth, jobs, and wages and real wages.
If you do that, it's all going to work out.
You can see it coming right now.
And look at the trade deficit.
I think we had the lowest trade deficit since 2009.
Exports up 30%, imports down 30%.
President Trump, it's kicking in right now.
The question I have for you: how did all the experts that from Liberation Day all the way till it started kicking in in July, just over and over on MSNBC every night, oh, it's going to blow up his trade policies are so terrible and they're going to cause this massive inflation.
They're going to wipe out the working class.
The trade policies are done to build a robust middle class and working class.
And the experts completely whiffed on the inflation part of this.
Why did they miss so badly, E.J.?
Steve, because these so-called experts, they're not experts in fields like economics.
They're experts in politics.
They say what they think will sound good.
They say what they think will sell books or appeal to politicians, whatever the case may be.
Look, at the end of the day, the same people who have been ragging on President Trump and his policies were the exact same folks cheerleading for Biden and were dead wrong about inflation being transitory.
Remember that one?
And they also are the same folks who were wrong during the first Trump administration.
You know, guys like Paul Krugman, after Trump was elected in the first term, he told everybody, look, I've sold my stocks and everyone else should too, because Trump's going to crash the market.
What happened?
The market took off, hit record high after record high.
Exactly what it's doing this time around.
Paul Krugman was one of the cheerleaders under Biden who said inflation's transitory.
There's nothing to worry about, nothing to see here.
And then when we had inflation, he told people, oh, it's just all in your head.
It's not a problem.
And then inflation was somehow good for you.
I mean, these people are liars, Steve.
They are always in wrong, but never in doubt.
Because for them, it's not about the facts.
It's not about the numbers.
It's not about reality.
It's just about the politics.
Just go back.
I've been following your Twitter feed.
Just go back, take a minute or two, what you just said about people actually, there's more, on a real basis, there's more money in their pocket.
The prices are a little bit down.
They're feeling now for the first time that they're able to buy more, and that's going to continue.
If you look in front of us with GDP growth, and GDP growth is over 5% for the private sector.
It used to be great coming here all the time talking about, hey, when Biden's talking about growth, it's all of this massive government spending.
If you take that out, we're worse than a recession.
We're in a depression.
That's changed now.
The Atlanta Fed's saying, I think the private side, not the government side, private side GDP is going to be like 5%.
Walk me through how that gets down to the individual.
How can they actually feel it in their paycheck and around the dinner table?
Well, Steve, one of the biggest things is that as the government is spending and borrowing and printing less money, it means less inflation.
It means you don't have to worry about the raise that you just got being eaten away by higher prices.
And that's why earlier we mentioned paychecks.
It's not just that paychecks are bigger, it's that they buy more.
That's the real kicker.
That's what we want to see.
It's that wages have to rise faster than prices.
That's not what happened under Biden, but it is what's happening under Trump.
And as we start seeing effects of the big beautiful bill kick in, like the full expensing, these different tax cut provisions, as people change their withholdings and they get bigger refunds and they keep more of their, they have more take-home pay essentially because less is getting removed in taxes with each check.
All of these things are going to help increase consumer spending.
It's going to increase business investment.
This means faster wage growth.
It means more people getting hired.
And this capex boom that the Treasury Secretary has talked about repeatedly means more productivity growth, which, by the way, we're already seeing.
The latest productivity numbers are just going gangbusters.
It's looking great.
And that means, again, it means faster wage increases for people.
It means more take-home pay, more consumer spending.
And this is where you get into the opposite of a downward spiral, an upward spiral, where this starts feeding on itself in a positive way.
And we start getting that positive feedback loop, and you get real private sector growth.
And not just like you were saying, Steve, under Biden, where it was government spending goosing the numbers.
But this is real genuine growth.
And that's what makes people better off.
That's what increases people's standard of living.
EJ Antoni, once again, you're spectacular about walking through the math.
Where do people go find you?
Particularly, that Twitter feed is on fire.
Where do folks go?
Well, that's going to be the best place to find me, Steve.
And the handle there is at real EJ Antoni.
Brother, thank you so much.
Appreciate you.
Thank you.
Philip Patrick, how do people thank you, brother?
Philip Patrick, I want people to get directly in contact with you and your team now more than ever.
You called this shot when we first started on this journey, what, four or five years ago, gold was at a thousand.
Silver wasn't even representing, and now silver's, I think, at $86.
It's one and a half times the barrel of oil.
You've got gold at $4,600.
I don't know.
It's not the price.
It's the process of how value is driven in physical gold and silver.
Where do people go to get to you, Philip Patrick, and have a chat?
It's very simple.
And everyone should know this now.
It's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.
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That will get them access to a lot of free information, how and why to invest in gold under a Trump administration.
Certainly heading into 2026, there's a lot to look forward to.
There's a lot to be cautious of.
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It will also get them access to the end of the dollar empire reports and book.
And I think for those who are purchasing in January, they get a signed copy.
I don't even have a signed copy of that book.
So, you know, it's a good one.
You got to do a purchase that I sign off on.
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Philip Patrick, we're very proud of that.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for that.
We're very proud of it as well.
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Cleo Pascal, our favorite everything strategy in the Pacific Ocean, pulling hard duty at the Honolulu Defense Conference.
You know, Honolulu, Hawaii, Oahu, in the 1930s was called the Gibraltar of the Pacific.
Up until Pearl Harbor, it was thought to be impregnable.
It's so important for your strategy and our strategy of the Central Pacific as the new, what is it, as the heartland is on the Eurasian landmass that McKinder made famous?
Cleo Pascal is made the Central Pacific.
What's happening?
You got a minute.
Tell me what's happened in the Defense Forum.
I'm going to hold you through the break, ma'am.
So I think that the message is finally getting through because one of the keynote speakers was the president of Palau, which is one of the three U.S. freely associated states who is here to talk about what's been going on in the Central Pacific.
And he's from a country that recognizes Taiwan.
So he's been on the front line of the Chinese political warfare operations.
And I think they're starting to understand we need to secure the center of the Pacific, not just through Kinetic, but through political warfare.
And some of the solutions are being discussed here.
Unbelievable.
Stick right there.
We're going to come back to you through the break.
I want to make sure we thank everybody, Birch Gold, for putting this on.
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That is not acceptable.
President Trump knows that.
He and Besson are on it, working every day.
But make sure that if you own a home, if you're lucky enough, 80 or 90% of your net worth tied in it, that every dream you have doesn't turn into the biggest nightmare you've ever encountered.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
So, Cleo Pascal, there may be a strike in Iran tonight.
Obviously, the non-interventionists are saying economically, you know, Scott Besson gave the speech in March about how the Trump administration is going to put the screws of sanctions and go after their currency, and they've done a magnificent job.
This is why you've seen all the riots in the streets.
This is why we argued against a decapitation hit during the 12-day war.
You don't need that.
You don't need America.
If you break it, you own it.
We don't need to break it.
We're breaking it right now with the people of Persia.
They're the ones in the streets.
Of course, there may be a strike tonight, particularly if there's a target set.
You never know.
President's going to look at all alternatives, but there's a carrier battle group, I think, is going to maybe assist in that, taking it out of the South China Sea.
The folks there at this Honolulu Defense Conference, did they buy into your theory of the case and the Worm's theory of the case that the Central Pacific is the strategic pivot of the Western Hemisphere in America's homeland defense, which President Trump is from Greenland to the Arctic to the Panama Canal to South America?
We bailed out Argentina and they paid us back already.
They paid the $2.5 billion from the $20 billion line we gave them.
They drew down $2.5 million.
We paid it back.
I think we made $50 to $100 million or something.
And seeing Venezuela, we snatched the bad guy and kind of told the regime, you got to do the following, and we're going to control the oil there, and maybe even Guiana, maybe the Gulf of America.
You add it to Texas.
We're like the 10th power.
We don't need the Gulf Emirates anymore.
We don't need Saudi Arabia.
We don't need Qatar.
Don't need UAE.
Don't need any of it.
We got to sell.
Have people there bought off in the fact that that conference you're sitting at is so important because the strategic center of our country happens to be in that vast ocean right in back of you, ma'am?
Yes, I think it's starting.
So as mentioned, the only head of state that they have speaking here is the president of Palau, which is right, that's the Battle of Pelelu.
A lot of Americans died for Palau to become independent.
But the challenge is that you have to travel from here in Honolulu, eight hours west to get to more of the United States in Guam and the CNMI area.
And that's when Admiral Poparo was speaking at the opening session and he was asked how important the Indo-Pacific is in the context of hemispheric defense.
He didn't mention that the U.S. is in Asia.
The U.S. is on the front line of Asia, and if you can't secure the center of the Pacific, he can't secure those Americans sitting way out on the front line.
And they're not there accidentally.
This goes back to McKinley, who said, President McKinley, who said during the Spanish-American War, unless that perimeter is secure, then Oregon and California aren't safe.
And then we learned during World War II, if the center of the Pacific isn't secured, then the U.S. isn't safe because that's where the Japanese staged from for over 30 years.
So we're starting to see some recognition, and we're also starting to see exactly what the rest of this hour has been about, which is the confluence of political warfare and economic warfare.
So you're seeing new levers coming into play.
And again, in Palau, I think we're starting to see the first roots of a new form of strategic foreign policy.
They signed a deal with the U.S. on December 23rd, where the U.S. will be able to send up to 75 deportees to Palau.
That was the headline.
But underneath that headline, the U.S. is agreeing to send to Palau on the ground, law enforcement personnel, cyber personnel, customs immigration, people who can actually do the counter-Chinese political warfare operations.
Specifically, they're going after Chinese corruption and Chinese organized crime in Palau to try to liberate it from that ground-level political warfare grip.
Because when you see those demonstrations happening in places like Minnesota and you start to track the money, you can see that not all of it is coming from Americans.
And even more so, because the Chinese have realized how important the center of the Pacific is to the U.S., they've been doing the same sort of thing there.
So you need to, along with selling the missiles, you need to have the law enforcement and intelligence sharing in order to be able to go after the sort of destabilization you have on the ground.
And there's been one good win that happened in the last 24 hours, which is we've covered extensively what happened in Saipan with the Chinese casino.
ICE has finally arrested the Chinese woman that was heavily involved in setting up that casino.
Now, it's a good start.
The Chinese can still arrive in Saipan, in the United States of America, without a visa.
That has to stop.
ICE always gets her man.
Cleo, where do people follow you on this trip?
We're going to try to have you back on tomorrow or the next day.
Where do people go to get you?
Thank you.
You can go NX.
And I would just like to quickly say we're talking about public-private partnerships.
I think you have to have much more involvement of faith communities and missionaries in the region because they're the ones that can really fight the Chinese.
They're the ones that scare the Chinese on the ground.
They don't do normal economics, and they can change the balance of power in the region in a way that is the fundamental good versus evil, which is what this fight is actually about.
I will set you up to talk to a bunch of them.
Claire Pascal.
Cleo Pascal, you're the best.
Look forward to having you back on.
Thank you, sir.
The Central Pacific as the strategic pivot of the United States of America.
Trevor Comstock, Michael and Dell's at a debate today with I think 12 people, a huge debate put on by one of the big Alpha News, one of the great news services in Minnesota.
The floor is yours, sir.
You got new products.
I want people to know the new products.
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How do they get access to you?
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Appreciate you having me.
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