WarRoom Battleground EP 925: Texas Congressman Keith Self Leads The Charge Against Sharia Law; Victory In Oklahoma
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You went in the well of the House of the most powerful legislative body in world history and said that Sharia law is incompatible with the Constitution of the United States of America, a Constitution that you swore to defend as an officer in the United States military.
Because our very foundation of our ideas of government, which are codified in the U.S. Constitution, are the individual freedom, individual rights, as declared in the Bill of Rights.
So we believe in the individual, the collective ideas of every individual.
The matters of conscience belong to individuals, not to government.
Sharia is anathema to that.
Sharia tells you you will submit to Sharia law, most people say, but it's a complete culture.
It's a complete civilization that you will submit to.
So, and they intend to dominate and they dominate cultures that they go into gradually and then suddenly they dominate cultures.
That's what we cannot allow to happen because it is fundamentally anathema, opposed to the U.S. Constitution and our ideas of individual rights.
Well, it goes further than just Afghanistan and Iraq.
I was in the embassy in Cairo, Egypt, in the days where women walking around Cairo, very few had on burqas, the hajib.
And then I was stationed or I worked with the IDF in the conflict between Israel and the proxies surrounding it.
Then I was in Afghanistan with the J-5 of the Central Command in the early days when the ground command was still in a tent.
Even in those early days, it was obvious that Afghanistan was a matter of tribes.
It was not a society, and it was ruled by Sharia, very strict Sharia.
In fact, when I was in the Pentagon, I was trying to deal with the stingers that we had given the Mujahideen.
So my experience in the Middle East is longer than just those few years.
And then in Iraq, I was actually in Qatar, the country of Qatar, which is basically a family-owned business by the Al-Tani family, who have a tremendous amount of natural gas.
But it is totally, most of the workers there are not even Qatari.
So, and you know, Steve, what they're doing to our institutions of higher learning here in the United States.
They're funding Sharia indoctrination.
So, yeah, my history in the Middle East goes a long way when you got to the House.
I mean, because most of the folks in the House have not had that experience.
How do you try, given your depth of experience over decades, how have you, the interaction between you and other members of the House, do they understand what's going on?
Are they trying to learn what's going on?
Or are they treating you like some, okay, this guy's obsessed because he's been deployed over there and associated with this for years.
So he's a little obsessed because he's seen it too up close and personal, but that can't happen in the United States.
No, I want to tell the story that the reason we have War Room Texas, the reason we had this great conference the other day, this big focus on the March 3rd ballot on Sharia, I was in a meeting in a conference room with Colonel Self and many others a couple of months ago.
I guess this is now three, four months ago.
And we're talking about this is right after the redistricting fight of where the conservative movement goes next.
And Colonel Self goes, hey, I think you guys better wake up because there's a massive Sharia problem in the state of Texas.
And unless this is dealt with, nothing else is going to matter.
Walk me through that.
What was it that made you say in front of that group, which really changed everybody's direction of thinking, and say, hey, this other stuff is important, but I go in the back burner so we take care of this?
Is the fact that you are a congressman from near Plano?
Or what was it to say that you said, hey, this has to be dealt with, and it has to be dealt with now in this state?
Because I know the history of the nations that Sharia has overtaken.
When you look at the traditional dress of many of the Middle Eastern nations, it's not the very austere dress of the women, for instance, under Sharia.
It's very traditional dress of the Middle East.
But when Sharia conquers you, women become second-class citizens.
They now require everybody to submit.
So it's knowing history in the nations.
And frankly, I serve in North Texas, Steve, as you know, and North Texas is now ground zero.
Look, Dearborn, Michigan has been overtaken.
We cannot allow that to happen in North Texas.
Epic City, now renamed the Meadows, in my district, as a matter of fact, they plan a huge Muslim community.
But it's the numbers of mosques that have been sprouting up around North Texas.
So, I mean, I have a vested interest in this because this is my district.
This is my area.
This is my territory in Texas that we have got to make people aware.
Look, the meadows is ready to go to the commissioner's court.
I call on people to get to, when the commissioner's court calls the meeting on this, they need to go and voice their opinion, much as one of my constituents, Jessica Hulsey, did before the Josephine City Council.
She did a wonderful job standing up and talking about the dangers of Sharia.
Because this whole show is about empowering people for their individual agency so they can get involved in this fight.
What is the commissioner's court and how developed?
I thought we had a, I thought actually we passed a law in Texas that said no epic city, but then I heard that the last paragraph of it was said, no epic cities in the future except Epic City now.
Is that true?
And what's the commissioner's court and how do people get involved?
Colonel Self, where do people find out more about you and where they find out more about, if you can point them in the direction of how you learned so much about and what you learned about Sharia law and really Islamic civilization?
Because this is civilizational jihad.
This is not about a religion.
This is about a new political order that's coming in.
And it's coming in from the most failed part of the world, right?
It's coming in from places like the Islamic Republic of Iran, which is a complete and total disaster.
You see this every day on the network news, right?
It's coming in from Iraq, another total disaster.
It's coming in from Afghanistan, another total disaster.
It's coming in from Qatar, which I think is a complete total disaster in the railhead of the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood coming in places like Saudi Arabia, which is, I think, another failed monarchy.
So where do they go to find out more about you?
Social media, everything you're doing in Congress with Chiproy, on the caucus, on the America Sharia Free Caucus, and everything you're doing in your beloved Texas.
Well, they can find me, whatever the format is, Rep. Keith Self, Rep. Keith Self, whatever the format for the particular platform is.
They can go to my website, keithself.house.gov, to sign up for my newsletter because we're going to continue to educate the people on what's happening in our district.
So if you want to know what we're putting out to our constituents, keithself.house.gov, sign up for the newsletter.
No, I asked for a show of hands the other day about the veterans that came to this conference, you know, post-Vietnam, post-Korea, post-Vietnam.
Every veteran, I think every veteran there that's been a veteran about their time in the Middle East, it's all been the Middle East.
Yes, you have had some of the Balkans, et cetera, but even the Balkans was about Islam.
It's all since 1979, 1980, when I was on that destroyer in the North Arabian Sea.
We were supposed to be on a Western Pacific deployment.
We got called over there because of the situation with our embassy.
But the Shah had fallen, I think, about a year before.
And very much what you see happening in the streets today, that's what was happening back in 1979 when the Shah fell.
And to know that the Shah's son is putting himself up as an alternative.
Hey, let me tell you, if you study the history of Iran and Persia, they're no beauties.
Not like they were doing a lot for the people.
That thing was a total and complete disaster.
But my point is, is that we have been sucked into that area of the world for decade after decade after decade.
And if you look at the oil, just take the Gulf of America.
If you look at from Guiana to Venezuela to the Gulf of America to Mexico itself to Texas, we got more oil and natural gas, 10X what the rest of the world has.
And I'm not counting even Alaska and I'm not counting North Dakota and I'm not counting the Saudi Arabia of natural gas, which happens to be the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
This is why I'm big on Israeli independence, stepping up.
And you see now that even Netanyahu is saying 10 years, they want to wean themselves off American underwriting of part of their military.
But I've got many more people that are, you know, from Laura Loomer to Rabbi Willicki that are saying they ought to do it quicker.
So it's just the whole Middle East.
We just don't need it anymore.
It's just, it sucked America dry for decade after decade after decade.
One of the things that surprised me, and maybe it shouldn't have about the conference the other day, we've had about 100 leaders, political leaders, grassroots leaders that were there before those amazing speeches of Glenn Beck and Gerd Fielders, and just incredible, incredible energy.
Craig and Lori, the city council says the proposal did not meet the standards for the land use it's asking to rezone.
The meeting turned contentious towards the end, and one city councilor called for public comment to end.
Some people started yelling and had to be removed from the room, and many left on their own.
After a nearly four-hour meeting, the city council voted four to one to deny the rezoning request.
One counselor said this isn't about freedom of religion, but about the facts.
That counselor said the project isn't acceptable for the current land use at Olive in the Creek Turnpike.
Earlier in the meeting, the architect behind the proposal assured the council their plan followed all of the proper requirements and regulations.
The Islamic Society of Tulsa said it needed a second location other than the mosque in Midtown Tulsa because of overcrowding issues, and half of its members already live in BA.
An estimated 1,300 people showed up to this meeting tonight.
440 people signed up to speak, but city council said they were allowed to stop the meeting when they felt like they had enough information to make a decision.
And council again voted to deny this request four to one.
And we will be hearing from the Islamic Society of Tulsa on what their next move is.
The grassroots and the folks in Broken Arrow and northern northeast Oklahoma really stood up yesterday.
The Broken Arrow City Council, like you heard in that clip, voted four to one against the rezoning request for a proposed Islamic center, really a mosque.
More than 1,300 people showed up and almost all of them were in opposition to the mosque.
You know, on the other side, the Democrats rallied their base in support of Islam, just like they've done in places like Minnesota and New York.
And those Democrats want to bring immigrants from a third world country that's fallen and promised to pay for everything and integrate them into the Democrat coalition.
But the council members said the proposal didn't meet the standards, the zoning standards for the land that is being asked to rezone.
Well, I think what the reality is, is what this has caused is a Streisand effect.
Now, more people are really studying Islam and its past and its history.
You know, I have a master's of divinity with languages, Greek and Hebrew, studied Islam, have been over to the Turkish, well, to Turkey and preached the gospel there and traveled around.
So I think this is a radical reawakening for the citizens of Oklahoma.
I'm glad that this Islamic Center was voted down for procedural reasons, but the fact is, conservatives in America need to win the broader argument against Islam.
And what Oklahomans are finding out is this is not radical Islam.
It's Islam.
Radicalism is inherent to the religion because it springs from their holy books and the life of Muhammad, their false prophet.
And when we see a professing Christian commit heinous acts of violence, and that sometimes does happen, unfortunately, we question whether he's a real Christian because he's not obeying and following Jesus Christ in scripture.
But when we see a Muslim commit heinous acts like mass murder and bombings and child sex abuse and marrying nine-year-olds and female genital mutilation and honor killings, we can point directly to the Quran and to the life of Muhammad and say, well, that Muslim is faithfully following the example of Muhammad.
And here, even here in Oklahoma, two Afghani immigrants were just sentenced to prison for plotting an ISIS-inspired terrorist attack on election day in 2024.
And that is what Islam has always done.
Islam is not merely a religion, like so many people say, but it's a military conquest and terrorism-driven civilization that is particularly at war with Christian civilization from the beginning.
And unfortunately, so many in our media class want to whitewash Islam as a peaceful religion.
And I think this is so important, what you're doing here on your program and setting up War Room Texas, because we need to understand the backgrounds of Islam.
Within 50 years of their founding, Muslims had already conquered the Middle East and began driving offensive wars against Constantinople, one of Christian civilization's most important cities.
This is why we're going to have you on as a regular because of your knowledge.
We've got to get that knowledge out.
50 years, and it wasn't just, it came out of the desert.
I mean, it came out of the Bedouin society, but they had taken the great civilization, ancient civilizations of, I'm going to throw out some random, Egypt, Babylon, Syria, in fact, Christian Syria, Persia, the Persians, and eventually North Africa.
And as I mentioned to people, I say, hey, look, when they took North Africa, North Africa is where Saint Augustine was from, the city of God, some of the greatest of the church fathers.
And really, the beginnings of Christianity outside of Rome as a desert religion, that was all overwhelmed in about 50 or 60 years, was it not, Senator?
And you've got great figures, Christian figures like Augustine and the Desert Fathers who were all there.
And you really need to read The Sword and the Scimitar and Defenders of the West to understand how Christianity was in a long waged war against Islam, taking over Western civilization and the heart of where Christianity really began.
And this is, I did not talk to Senator Deavers before that, but that's Raymond Ibrahim's, those two great books.
And he's got the new one, I think, Two Swords of Christ about the military order, the third in that series.
Raymond Ibrahim's books are absolutely fantastic.
So, Senator, when you're there as a senator and not as a pastor or preacher, and you're talking to other people, because Oklahoma is a Christian state, but obviously got a huge secular component to it.
When you start talking to them about your knowledge and about really that Islam is more of a political and military ideology, a conquering ideology, did they look at you like you got two heads?
I mean, is there any understanding so far?
Because we've been in this war since 9-11.
You know, we've lost 10,000 troops, 50,000 wounded, another 5,000 or 6,000 contractors, which are just basically Navy SEALs and commandos that are off the balance sheet, special operators.
We spent $9 trillion.
There's $9 trillion of that, $38 trillion, $9 trillion associated with this war.
Is there any understanding among people about how serious this is?
And quite frankly, how late in the game that we're coming to this?
We have over 500,000 Southern Baptists that are members of Southern Baptist churches.
And that's good.
And I mean, I'm glad that there's that many Christians.
But whenever it comes to understanding Islam, you've got some who have gone on mission trips to these various Middle Eastern countries and have studied Islam.
And you have others who have the media propaganda and they're just receiving what they've got.
So there's a lot of misunderstanding.
There's some who understand, but we're finally waking up to this ancient threat.
One of the things that I do talk about with them has been very effective: in 2004, the FBI raided the home of an Islamic terrorist and they uncovered the Muslim Brotherhood's 1991 explanatory memorandum that laid out their plan to wage, in their words, quote, a kind of grand jihad in eliminating, destroying Western civilization from within and sabotaging its miserable house by their hands.
You know, Sheikh Ahmad Al-Qatani, who's a prominent Muslim leader, stated in a televised interview on Al Jazeera in 2001, that far back, that every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity, which adds up to about 16,000 per day or approximately 6 million per year in Africa alone.
And while the numbers have been debated and Al-Qatani, you know, he may have been overstating his case, no one can deny the broader trend of conversions from Islam to Christianity.
I've heard stories from friends who are missionaries in the Middle East, and they say that they're seeing them the most receptive to the gospel that they've ever seen them.
And that's the reality.
The gospel is the story of the good news of Jesus Christ saving sinners and reconciling them to God, no matter how wicked they are, is the only hope for all mankind.
It's the hope for me.
It's the hope for you.
It's a hope for everyone.
And God's word is powerful to change hearts and redeem souls.
It's the word of the gospel that faith comes by hearing, and they are seeing mass conversions.
I will tell you, it's now, it's like I said, to stop it on March 3rd, you got to stop Sharia law and then you stop it, and then you got to roll it back.
When we go on offense, you got to go on offense with the word of God.
The conversions to Christianity is absolutely at the top of the plate.
And I don't think people talk about it enough.
On this show, we're going to do it.
Senator Dusty Deavers of Oklahoma, where are your coordinates?
People are going to want to learn more about you, more about your work, and more about the fight in Oklahoma.
Well, I was talking about you is how it came up, Steve, as I was introducing you.
And I don't like to tell people I'm from New York, what a disaster my home state has become.
I've lived in Texas for 25 years.
I consider this my home state.
I'm half Italian.
My mom's maiden name is Minervini, construction business in New York City.
I've had family members that have had some issues with the law along the way.
My great-grandfather, I didn't tell this story, Steve, but my great-grandfather said that there's no such thing as the mafia.
It's only the federal government persecuting successful Italian Americans.
And anybody that had trouble with the law and my family, and I mean this in a very odd way, but Steve, you reminded me of them when you went through your issues and served your time.
They never once complained.
They came out.
They never made their wives worry about them.
They never made their kids worry about them.
And they came out even more and bold.
And these were great family men.
And we don't need to go into the history of all of it.
But Steve, that's what I saw in you.
And when you came out and you fired back at everybody, I thought to myself, that is my kind of guy right there.
And you always were, but boy, oh boy, just a salute to you, my friend, for the way you handled all of that.
There is a spirit about this state that I don't see in any other state.
I mean, Florida, you can make an argument, but Florida isn't the same.
There's a lot of transplants in Florida.
When you talk about Texas and born and bred Texans here, and then I think something comes over people like me that come and live here for a decade or more, two decades in my case, that this can-do spirit, the come and take it mentality, that was a saying that goes a long way back to the Mexican-American War.
The Mexicans had given a little town in Texas a cannon.
The Mexicans wanted it back.
And that little town said, come and take it.
And you'll see it on those flags.
And that kind of spirit still exists.
And we saw that in that event, Steve, that you fired up that crowd like you wouldn't believe.
And I know you fire up crowds all over the place, but that's especially it's going to happen in Texas because we are fighters in this state.
And I wish other states would look at Texas, take the Texas model and mimic it.
Because if the entire country was and had the attitude the Texans have, we would be a far greater country than we already are.
You know, I said this in the talk, and I mean this and spend the time, is that, you know, as a Virginian, you're raised that Virginia is the mother of presidents and Virginia is so special and it is.
But the encroachment of the federal government in Northern Virginia has really taken Virginia what it used to be and just radically changed it.
So there are parts of the Commonwealth that you have that spirit.
But I've got so many buddies and so many friends down in Texas.
There's something different.
I knew a grant, this about a decade or so ago, because I launched Breitbart, Texas at Breitbar.
It's one of the things I did, London, Rome, Jerusalem, Breitbart, Texas, because of the issues down in the Rio Grande Valley.
And we started with Brandon Darby and the team at Breitbart.
But as I spent time down there and launching that, I realized, particularly my friends, a lot of these guys had gone to Ivy League schools, right?
And I noticed in their children that they were turning down as legacies to get into Ivy League schools to go to the University of Texas.
And the parents agreed with that.
They go, no, no, no, they don't need to leave state.
They're going to go to University of Texas or Texas AM.
And I'm going, hang on, they're getting into Harvard and Dartmouth and Princeton and they're staying in Texas.
There was a shift in mentality that this place loves its traditions and loves its history.
And they're not going to let that change.
Unlike in the Commonwealth, Virginia, and even New York City, we've kind of let it go, right?
And the place, they're special, but they're not as special as they used to be.
So I know you've been talking about this event where you spoke on Friday that was basically an event to raise awareness of this invasion that's going on in Texas and to push back against it.
This is how brazen these Muslims are that they're going to come into Texas and they think that's where they're going to make Epic City and that's where they're going to grow.
And they know that if they plant a flag in Texas of all states, well, then they virtually won America.
Now, you know, Steve, I know, I think most of the people watching here, they're going to have a battle on their hands if they think they're just going to come in here, waltz over it and take over Texas, take over our school boards.
And they do it quietly.
And this has been going on for a while.
They're getting louder and louder now.
And I've sounded the alarm that says, hey, believe them when they tell you they are trying to make America a Muslim nation, trying to make Texas a Muslim state.
Believe them when they tell you your kids are going to be going to a Muslim school.
Don't take that as anything less than that is their mission.
But in this state, they know that if they were to capture Texas, just as the Democrats know, that if they were to capture Texas, I believe, and I know it sounds sensationalistic, but I believe the entire country falls, which is why we as Texans take it squarely on our shoulders that this is where we defend America.
This is where we defend the heartland.
This is where we defend the founders' vision for this great country of ours.
No, the great tabloid in New York City, the New York Post, had an investigation the other day.
And they said in this Red Green Alliance in Minnesota that they had gotten back of the financing of it.
And besides the U.S. government's involved in the state and U.S. government involved in spreading Islam in Texas, but what they had said is that Soros through Indivisible and CARE were the two funders of the red-green, of the Marxist-Shihadist takeover that you've seen in New York City.
And you see it on the streets of Minneapolis.
Well, what did Texas do over the last, what is it, five or six or seven years?
Soros put in $380 million to turn Texas blue.
Remember that, Grant?
We went through that whole thing.
And finally, with fight back with grassroots and people, President Trump won by, I think, 14 points and Sed Cruz won by 11 or 12.
So we beat that back.
The situation, though, is this is why the governor designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARES terrorist organizations.
That's a first.
That's before Trump did it at the federal level and right before Ron DeSantis did it at the state level in Florida because they got a problem too.
So they're coming.
You now know sophisticated people realize this Red Green Alliance is working together.
Their target's always been Texas.
As I said the other day, when I go around the world and I've gone as a naval officer and business with Goldman Sachs, my own firm, there's two kinds of brands out there when you're in the United States.
It's Harvard, because everybody wants their kid to go there, and it's Texas from the movies and the myths of the West.
And everybody wants to go, I don't care if you're in China, you got guys wearing cowboy hats in the big buckles, in the cowboy boots.
Texas is the target, Grant, because they understand if they can take Texas, the rest of the United States just falls.
So it's more important to them even than New York City and Chicago and Los Angeles and Portland and Seattle, sir.
Well, you know, you see that in their effort to take over our universities here.
You mentioned Texas AM, Texas Tech, and boy, they're pretty darn close to taking over the University of Texas at Austin, which is a great university, but it's just a bastion of liberalism right now.
The legislature here, we have some issues.
We've got some real, I don't even call them rhinos.
They're basically Democrats that wear a Republican R next to them, but they have infiltrated into the state legislature.
So Texas does have some problems.
Though I will say the legislature has tried to get our universities under control because if they take the universities, we know the next thing to fall.
You start pushing 18, 19-year-olds through these universities.
Texas crumbles.
I just want to make sure kids like my son, he's 16 years old.
He's totally awake.
He knows how dopey these Democrats are.
He laughs at them.
And he goes to an inner city Dallas school, Steve.
And I want to tell you and everybody else out there, if you want some hope for America, my son goes to an inner city Dallas school.
He's got Hispanic friends.
He's got black friends that love Trump and are laughing at what these Democrats are doing.
And I'm like, really?
Your buddy so-and-so and this buddy, they're sharing memes.
They're doing all these things.
They're awake too.
And these are minorities in the middle of Dallas.
Now, their parents aren't.
Their parents are sometimes beside themselves on this thing.
But we've got kids now in inner city schools in Texas that are totally awake to just how ridiculous the Democrats are coming off now.
And they're laughing at them and sharing memes.
And it's great that little kids are doing it, but it's bigger than just being great.
It really is giving me hope that the future for this state and America is very bright.
You know, honestly, so if you're 16 years old, your humor maturity is probably a little lower.
They find him hilarious.
They find Trump hilarious.
And they find what he does and what he says hilarious and that he's not afraid to make fun of himself or that he will dance on stage.
And, you know, I love the Trump dance like anybody does.
But, you know, as Melania says, you don't look so great, but you do look great because you're literally recruiting these young people in.
And I think the straight talk is something they've never heard from anybody else before.
And then once they start to get into it, they realize, what are these other people doing on the side?
I mean, I can't tell you how many friends will come through the living room or the kitchen as my son has friends over.
And they're like, you know, did you see so-and-so who said something about a transgender?
Like, we would kick their ass in basketball, you know, if we had all men playing against women and those kinds of things.
So, you know, I think, though, to answer your question, I think it's Trump that he's as down to earth as he is and he's as funny as it is that really recruited them to be honest.
And I want to thank Rob Sig and Parker Sig for helping to push and launch a Warring Texas.
What is your warning to folks in Texas?
What's your warning and what are the two or three things you need to have done?
We have a primary on three March.
This show's got periodicity.
We intend to go through three, four, maybe five March to really focus on this primary, particularly on the ballot initiative, Proposition 10, I think it is, to ban Sharia law in the state of Texas.
What is your warning to the folks in Texas and what's your recommendation of what they do?
It was the first week we launched with John Fredericks on his radio station down at Richmond, my own hometown, back in 2019.
I think it was the first week of September, something on War Room impeachment.
Warhamme Texas, same thing.
Kind of you start with this period shows.
We were going to run all the way through the impeachment because nobody believed President Trump was going to get impeached.
We had to kind of tell him, hey, he was going to get impeached.
The RAF folks, because they had seen us down to Build the Wall, they had done some of the conferences down, some of the great work on the We Build the Wall project.