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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It's Thursday, January 8th in the year of our Lord, 2026. | ||
| It's Natalie Winters hosting, I'll say, filling in, not for the whole show, but for the latter half, for the one and only Stephen K. Bannon, who is joining us from Texas. | ||
| I will say before we bring Steve on, there's some breaking news over at Bloomberg, a lot going down in Iran right now. | ||
| I think here in the war room, I'm fair to say that DNI stands for, well, obviously director of national intelligence, but also do not invade, not necessarily do not invite. | ||
| For those of you who've seen the Bloomberg already, you know what I'm referencing. | ||
| But I want to bring Steve on, who, like I said, is joining us from Texas. | ||
| We also got Poso, Kurt Mills, Julie Kelly, a packed show for you, so don't go anywhere. | ||
| But Steve, I want to toss to you. | ||
| I know you got some assets that you want to play, but walk us through this new Bloomberg article. | ||
| Well, Natalie, in fact, I wasn't supposed to do the show today. | ||
| You had the whole show and you had it booked. | ||
| I thank you for fitting me in because, and Pozo for calling in from Minneapolis. | ||
| Jack's out there with Secretary Besson, who did a magnificent job today. | ||
| And of course, a lot of activity in Minneapolis on something we've got to be focused on, which is the invasion of our country. | ||
| And quite frankly, the insurrectionists and the traitors that are not allowing us to get these illegal alien invaders out of the country. | ||
| It's a number one priority for the country. | ||
| But something popped up today, and I felt we had to address it. | ||
| That's why I'm so glad you booked Kurt Mills and Jack called in. | ||
| It's this Bloomberg article. | ||
| Look, there was a massive hit piece done on Tulsi Gabbard today by Bloomberg with cooperation of the White House and cooperation of people associated with the national security apparatus, particularly the intelligence committee. | ||
| This was vicious. | ||
| They actually said it's about excluding Tulsi from any discussions or involvement in the Venezuela situation. | ||
| And in fact, they said DNI stood for do not invite. | ||
| Remember, she was frozen out too on the 12-day war, of which her intelligence at DNI was 100% correct. | ||
| And the CIA's intelligence, really driven by the Mossad because Ratcliffe's is so weak, was 100% wrong. | ||
| And I can go through every detail. | ||
| In fact, tomorrow and I have more time, I will go through the details. | ||
| I know Poso's joining us, Kurt Mills has joined us. | ||
| Poso is by phone. | ||
| Jack, you know Tulsi. | ||
| She came to, he's not there yet. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Do we know when Jack's gone in? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is Kurt Mills there? | ||
| I can go here with my rift. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| So, Natalie, by the way, great production. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
| This article, if we can put it up, was a complete hit job. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard is stood in the breach and done a fantastic job as far as intelligence goes. | ||
| If you look at what she's told the House during her nomination process, if you look at her when she goes back up, she's been right on the situation around Israel, particularly with Iran and the Persians. | ||
| She was right about their nuclear program. | ||
| She's been right everything. | ||
| Of course, she's always been very hesitant about invasions like what happened down, or I should say, potential regime change, although it's becoming clearer of what went on. | ||
| And President Trump removed Maduro, and it looks like they're working with the VP, and this is part of hemispheric defense. | ||
| And now the White House is making this case, particularly with Greenland, is starting to fit together. | ||
| But this is driven by one thing. | ||
| This is driven because Tulsi is not just about Venezuela. | ||
| She's one of the biggest people that are negative about American involvement in taking out the Iranian, the Mullahs. | ||
| And here's the reason. | ||
| We have the sanctions. | ||
| Everything we've said on here has gone exactly correct. | ||
| That the sanctions are bringing down the population of the Persians are in the streets to overthrow the mullahs. | ||
| If you cut off the oil, which is going to the CCP, they would collapse, I think, in 90 days. | ||
| But there's still this big push. | ||
| Oh, you got to invade Iran. | ||
| You got to invade Iran. | ||
| You saw Lindsey Graham make Iran great again. | ||
| I'm not interested in Iran being great again. | ||
| The American people don't care about Iran being great again. | ||
| What the Israel first crowd wrought on Israel, particularly people that have been defenders of Israel, is it brought a two-state solution. | ||
| You have to own the fact that the Greater Israel Project, and particularly the 12-day war, of which the Israelis were not winning, the Americans had to bail them out, first off defensively, and then last offensively. | ||
| And we know from the Times of Israel that it wasn't two weeks on their nuclear program. | ||
| It was two years because Netanyahu had to tell his cabinet this. | ||
| What was obvious is that President Trump ended the 12-day war. | ||
| He did not want to do an invasion. | ||
| And now the Mossad with the CIA and Ratcliffe, everything they're doing is trying to push to an invasion. | ||
| It's not necessary. | ||
| The United States does not need to be dragged in to another conflict in the Middle East. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because the economic sanctions are doing what people thought they would do. | ||
| It's bringing the mullahs to their knees, the people in the streets. | ||
| If you cut them off from oil and they should be cut off from ability to sell oil to the Chinese Communist Party, they should be cut off 100%. | ||
| If you did that, the people would rise up even more. | ||
| There's no involvement, and you have the CIA, the Mossad. | ||
| Ratcliffe's such a lightweight, they're controlling him. | ||
| They're running him. | ||
| But you got Lindsey Graham and Tel Aviv Levin and all this crowd. | ||
| All they want to do is invade Iran. | ||
| We've got enough on our plate right now. | ||
| The president with hemispheric defense, what's going on in Venezuela, potentially Greenland, talking about the Arctic. | ||
| Right now, this huge fight that's going to happen about Ukraine, about security guarantees, with the French and the British lying to people and saying they're going to put troops, they're going to put military hubs up near the line of contact with the Russians when we know they're never going to fulfill that. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They're dead broke. | ||
| Look at the domestic policy. | ||
| France has no money. | ||
| They have a parliament they can't even get a budget out of. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they're so in debt and the deficits are so big, they have no cash for troops to go to Ukraine. | ||
| The UK is the exact same thing. | ||
| Both of these countries are in financial crisis, and they're going to look to us to bail them out. | ||
| The president's plate is absolutely full. | ||
| And Tulsi Gabbard, for being the hero she is, and actually standing in the breach and giving people good intelligence. | ||
| And the president needs good intelligence. | ||
| Because quite frankly, I think he's just getting particularly in the Iran situation. | ||
| And this was the 12-day war. | ||
| Once again, if we did not step in at the beginning of that war with Aegis cruisers, Aegis cruisers in the Eastern Mediterranean, with Patriot missiles and TAD missiles, and eventually finish what they started offensively because they could not do it, to wit. | ||
| The Israeli Air Force could not take out the surface parts of the nuclear program. | ||
| The United States Navy had to do that with 30 Tomahawk missiles, which happens to be a technology from the 1970s. | ||
| President Trump bailed them out, and President Trump said, hey, look, I ended the 12-day war. | ||
| The nuclear program is over. | ||
| Now they come with the new ballistic missile program, everything. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard is the one that says, well, actually, this is what reality is. | ||
| And today in Bloomberg, they went after her to say that DNI stands for do not invite. | ||
| Well, she should be invited. | ||
| Number one, the president needs as many sources of information as possible. | ||
| Particularly, this is like back in the 1970s. | ||
| Team B was always there to judge what the CIA was saying. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because until Bill Casey got to the CIA, it was wrong about everything about the Soviet Union. | ||
| The CIA has the worst reputation in the world of being dead wrong on major issues facing the United States strategically. | ||
| Their history is replete with this. | ||
| And what do you have? | ||
| And what do you have is, what do you have? | ||
| And what you have, thank you. | ||
| Post was on with us. | ||
| What you have is the CIA, once again, dead wrong about everything they tell the president. | ||
| Natalie, Jack Bosobic joins us by telephone. | ||
| I know he's got a lot to say about Tulsi. | ||
| Oh, well, Steve, the Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, has been not only is she one of the most experienced operators from the military, she's someone who carries forward the voices of so many combat veterans in the global war on terror, so many people who understand. | ||
| And if you go back and watch what we did on Tales of Regime Change the last couple of weeks here on Human Events Daily, that we went through chapter and verse and has been a leading voice from the perspective of the warfighter, from the perspective of someone who's been there and done it to understand the trauma that our troops have gone through from being involved in these overseas wars. | ||
| She's been a voice for that and a leader on that issue and is a national leader on that issue. | ||
| Of course, very close with Bobby Kennedy, someone who's completely beloved by Maha and, in fact, totally beloved by the warfighter community in this country. | ||
| That's DNI Tulsi Gabbard. | ||
| And look, I heard the vice president up there at the podium, and he said that it's completely false, right? | ||
| That's what we're getting from the White House on this: that the narrative is completely false. | ||
| Again, now, the DNI, to understand, for folks who aren't in the room, you know, their role is not operational. | ||
| That's the intelligence arm. | ||
| So, does that mean they're involved in every arm of an operation? | ||
| No. | ||
| But what they do is they provide the intelligence to the commander. | ||
| The commander then takes that and uses it to make the best operations from that. | ||
| There's no question. | ||
| So, when you look at it, and I see DNI Gabbard, when she's in the White House, she's there every single time for the briefings from the TDB on down. | ||
| By the way, if it's completely false, I would like to have Bloomberg then make a correction. | ||
| The White House says it's completely false. | ||
| So, if their sources are not highly placed people in the intelligence services, which Bloomberg says in the article, and then they actually quote, they quote a high official but unnamed in the White House that wouldn't put their name on it and said, oh, a lot of this is not correct. | ||
| We ought to have that official's name. | ||
| Vice President is great that he stepped up, but we ought to have Bloomberg either come up with the names or issue a correction because this looks like to the initiated in D.C., this looks like an organized hit, Jack. | ||
| Well, it's clearly an attempt to sow chaos. | ||
| There's no question here. | ||
| And whether those chaos agents are in members of the deep state, which certainly wouldn't surprise me, it wouldn't be the first time we've seen intelligence agents target members of the president's cabinet, or perhaps other folks who have political acts to grind with Tulsi. | ||
| I couldn't tell you. | ||
| But what I do know is that this is clearly an intelligence-driven operation to try to show a sow a rift where there just isn't one. | ||
| At least not that I've seen. | ||
| Natalie, Natalie, your thoughts. | ||
| A lot of this comes down to Iran. | ||
| I was particularly upset with Lindsey Graham going on Hannity and saying we're going to go bomb to make Iran get great again. | ||
| I don't give a damn about Iran being great again. | ||
| That's the Persians' problem. | ||
| That's why it's got to be the Persians. | ||
| We should not be in there working on making Iran great again. | ||
| Let the Persians throw the mullahs out and let the Persians deal with what they did when they threw the Shah out and they threw the United States out. | ||
| It's their problem. | ||
| Natalie Winters, your thoughts? | ||
| Well, look, I think the only vindication that we need, not that we want to be right here in the war room, but that we were right about the 12-day war, that it was always about regime change, is what we're seeing right now, right? | ||
| They're, I guess, basically not even engaging in any of the foreplay or the pretext to try to justify getting involved and, you know, deposing the Iranian regime. | ||
| Now they're just straight up really amplifying, obviously, these street protests that we're seeing going on, making a huge deal out of it, really kind of sailing off of those trade winds. | ||
| But look, I think, Steve, the key point here is that we voted for regime change here in the United States, not abroad. | ||
| And if we now want to start invoking human rights as the arbitrary red line, which we want to stake the kinetic part of World War III on, that's something that sounds like it should be coming out of the Atlantic Council, certainly not MAGA, certainly not President Trump. | ||
| And by the way, if that's the new yard line or yardstick that we want to measure with, then I would highly suggest against being so cozy, cozy, and buddy-buddy with the Chinese Communist Party, including, but not limited to, giving them advanced technology so they can better carry out repression that far outweighs any of the evil regimes, and they are evil that we just talked about. | ||
| So it's a little double standard, a little bit too much hypocrisy for me. | ||
| But Steve, are you going to hang with us through the break or do you have to bounce? | ||
| Yeah, I tell you what. | ||
| The audience wants you to stay. | ||
| If Jack can update us on the Getter Jack specifically. | ||
| I know that's why I love Getter. | ||
| I'll stick around for a short commercial break in the other side. | ||
| If Jack stays around and updates us on Minneapolis, and then you're going to have the great Kurt Mills to give us his view of what's going on with Iran and Tulsi Gabbard, the great Tulsi Gabbert over at, what does DNI stand for in the war room? | ||
| Do not invade. | ||
| Is that what it is? | ||
| Do not invade. | ||
| Natalie? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| That and so much more. | ||
| What can I say? | ||
| I think they should print a retraction. | ||
| But like I said, we don't need regime change in all these other countries. | ||
| We want regime change here, the very people, whether they're the authors of this article, the hidden hands behind them. | ||
| Take your pick. | ||
| The war room wants them out. | ||
| I don't really care that much about Maduro or the Atollists. | ||
| I mean, I do when it impacts here in the United States of America, but we don't need to go chase World War III or at least the kinetic component. | ||
| We need regime change in New York City. | ||
| We need Mandami out. | ||
| We need that guy Friday. | ||
| I care about Islamic extremists in New York. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're coming up against a break, Steve. | ||
| I don't know if you have a clock, but we're going to bounce. | ||
| But Warren Posse, you get more, Steve, more Jack. | ||
| We'll be right back. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Welcome back to the war room. | ||
| I guess we always like to hear the line, if they can do this to me, imagine what they can do to you. | ||
| And I kind of would say to the politicians that say that they're kind of already doing it to us. | ||
| I would just point you to Minnesota invading the country with a bunch of third world foreigners that some of them end up terrorists. | ||
| Those are the good ones. | ||
| The worst ones ends up becoming fraudsters. | ||
| I guess that's economic terrorism. | ||
| Take your pick. | ||
| That's your new neighbor. | ||
| Jack Pesovic, I hear you got human events aspects on the ground. | ||
| I don't know if I'm letting the cat out of the bag there, but you've been monitoring that situation. | ||
| You got some team members down there. | ||
| Can you give us the latest on what is expected to pop off there tonight into the weekend? | ||
| Well, Natalie, we certainly do. | ||
| Not to get too into it because of operational security, but we do have human events assets that are on the ground there in Minneapolis. | ||
| And right outside the Whipple Center, you can see the video up. | ||
| It's going viral online now. | ||
| Gregory of Bovino, the commander there, was just assaulted by one of these agitators right outside the federal center. | ||
| This is, of course, where ICE is conducting their operations. | ||
| Somehow, his security allowed a Jack, Jack, Jack. | ||
| Jack, hang on, hang on. | ||
| You're telling Bovino is the third or fourth senior guy in DHS. | ||
| He's literally the ground commander now for the mass deportations. | ||
| You can't tell me that they attacked Bovino and we have not surged in, federalized the National Guard and get it in. | ||
| They get control. | ||
| Grab Waltz, pull him out of there. | ||
| Grab Fry, pull him out of there. | ||
| They've worked up these agitators. | ||
| Bovino is the most senior guy. | ||
| He's our field commander. | ||
| How could he possibly get attacked and we're not shutting the city down? | ||
| No, the situation is rapidly, rapidly deteriorating, and there's no question about that. | ||
| And what we're also now hearing is that Antifa groups are expected to be, they are surging federal agents, but we're also hearing that Antifa groups and other left-wing groups are planning to surge to the city by this weekend. | ||
| And do you expect this to go up tonight, or do you think they're going to have, look, if they just attack Bovino, they're prepared to do anything. | ||
| So do you think there are going to be problems tonight if they're surging in the basically the Vanguard shock troops of the insurrectionists? | ||
| And that would be Antifa guys that you've dealt with down in the pits for the last 10, 12, 15 years. | ||
| If they're surging those guys in, I hope we're federalizing some National Guard because this is beyond ICE. | ||
| This is beyond ICE. | ||
| This needs military assets, sir. | ||
| Not only are they surging, they've already established a chaz or perhaps a MAZ at the vicinity where the scene where the shooting took place. | ||
| They've got barricades up there, which has been allowed to be erected. | ||
| They've got emplacements up. | ||
| They're setting up fortifications, Steve. | ||
| They're setting up fortifications for something. | ||
| And I fear, and I've been tweeting this out again, that we're going to see more targeted attacks on ICE officials. | ||
| And at this point, it looks as though they may be planning to assassinate Commander Bovino. | ||
| They actually attack him. | ||
| Let's play this. | ||
| Can you walk us through this, Jack? | ||
| Or I know you're on the phone. | ||
| It looks like they jump on him and try to attack him. | ||
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| So he's walking to his vehicle, and they can tell that's the command vehicle there. | ||
| He's there with his detail. | ||
| And somehow, this agitator gets in his way, is able to get into his face. | ||
| He walks right up and is able to get their hands on him. | ||
| And thank God that person didn't have a weapon. | ||
| Thank God that person didn't have something on them because this could have gone sideways very fast. | ||
| There's a number of agitators who are there. | ||
| Now his security is able to get on them very quickly, but it just goes to show you how hostile and how volatile of a situation this is. | ||
| And I guarantee, I hate to say it, Steve. | ||
| I really hate to say it, but we are going to see more attacks on ICE agents. | ||
| And obviously, Commander Bovino is going to be one of the high-value targets for Antifa. | ||
| Coda, give me this. | ||
| That barricade, we showed it on the morning shard, the one that they put up overnight. | ||
| They're not turning that into a chaz like in Portland and Seattle, are they? | ||
| Well, that's what I said. | ||
| They may be trying to establish a MAZ, right? | ||
| Minneapolis Autonomous Zone or they're on the ground because what we were told yesterday, go look at Nick Sordor's reporting, that the police had pulled out. | ||
| And that was the first thing that happened in Chaz. | ||
| Remember, it was the police pulling out by Mayor Jenny Durkin at the time to say, this area no longer belongs to us. | ||
| This area now belongs to you. | ||
| That's what set the conditions for the Chaz to be set up. | ||
| What happened yesterday? | ||
| The police were pulled out. | ||
| I mean, this is why I think I would, if I was President Trump, I'd order the National Guard federalize them or the National Guard in there and take that thing down, take that barricade down before they can start getting behind it tonight. | ||
| Anyway, Jack, thank you. | ||
| Anything else, Natalie, for Jack? | ||
| I'm going to bounce also. | ||
| I know you got Kurt Mills, Julie Kelly, a PAC Show, Oscar. | ||
| Jack, if I can ask you one more question before you bounce, Jack, if you can stay. | ||
| Steve, the audience wants you as long as you can stay. | ||
| So that's direct orders from the posse. | ||
| But I understand, Senior Busy, but Jack, I think the audience wants to know. | ||
| We have another show to prepare for here for thought. | ||
| You've got to bounce this evening. | ||
| Real quick, can you ask, answer one more question? | ||
| Are a lot of the protesters on the ground there? | ||
| Are they the white liberal archetype or is it the Somalians? | ||
| Like, what's the demographics of who's actually protesting? | ||
| I haven't seen Somalians. | ||
| This is white Antifa that are out there. | ||
| I haven't seen the Somali community demobilizing at all in this. | ||
| And I certainly haven't heard that. | ||
| I will ask, but that's not something that we've seen at this point. | ||
| Jack, thank you. | ||
| We appreciate having you on. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| God bless to the population. | ||
| Jack, thank you. | ||
| It looked like it was a Karen that was shot yesterday in that incident that happened, Natalie. | ||
| And so maybe that's where it's going to play. | ||
| Natalie, I have to bounce too. | ||
| You got a full show. | ||
| Thank you so much for letting me horn in here. | ||
| Kevin Friedman Studios in Texas, the Economic War Room. | ||
| I want to thank him and the entire crew that came back up. | ||
| And Natalie, Godspeed, ma'am. | ||
| Thank you, sir, for joining us. | ||
| Thank you for letting me fill in for you. | ||
| Big shoes to fill, but I will try my best. | ||
| Warren Posse, don't go anywhere. | ||
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| I think they're giving you, what is it, $10,000? | ||
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| They're running it through the holidays. | ||
| Make sure you're texting Bannon 298-9898. | ||
| Give Philip Patrick and the team a call. | ||
| They'll walk you through why gold has always been a hedge in uncertain times, which I think is fair to say. | ||
| We are definitely living in those. | ||
| And someone who is quite an expert on that uncertainty, though, maybe that term sounds like it happens in a vacuum. | ||
| I think there are a lot of forces that intentionally caused that. | ||
| Maybe they call it creative destruction, but hopefully not of the American Republic. | ||
| But that is Kurt Mills. | ||
| Kurt, I wanted to bring you on before we get into what's happening in Iran. | ||
| First and foremost, your thoughts. | ||
| I don't know if you saw our kind of primer discussion on the Bloomberg article, the idea that Tulsi's not being led into a lot of the Venezuela discussions. | ||
| Your thoughts on all that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it appears that sub-text has been made text and that the relationship between OD and I, where the director of national intelligence, former Congresswoman Gabbard, that has frayed between her and the president since at least the 12-day war, if you recall, in June, you know, he said he didn't really care what her assessment was. | ||
| And then the, you know, basically, unfortunately, I think because I think, you know, Gabbard is one of the more capable members of the administration, the relationship seemingly hasn't recovered. | ||
| And so, you know, she runs a vast bureaucracy, but Trump has a sort of, and I'm sure Steve would attest this, sort of an informal management style. | ||
| And who's in the mix is in the mix. | ||
| And it doesn't appear that she is in the mix, to put it mildly. | ||
| And that's, I guess, suppose no surprise because of all the administration officials, she has the longest paper trail of opposing the type of action that we saw over the weekend with Maduro. | ||
| She was a pretty steadfast opponent of regime change in Venezuela as a congresswoman. | ||
| Granted, she was a Democrat there, always a kind of independent Democrat, though. | ||
| The kind of Democrat who endorsed Bernie Sanders, the kind of, she would have tried the kind of voter who might have been a Democrat formerly and came over to President Trump. | ||
| So not necessarily someone that the president feels very comfortable jettisoning from his coalition. | ||
| And in addition, contra the first term, Trump has fired no senior officials or no cabinet level officials to this point. | ||
| And so he appears still loath to do that, even if the two of them, by all appearances, aren't on very strong working terms. | ||
| And just a clarifying question, I think this is my kind of difficulty in reading this article, is there's almost an intentionality whereby it's like the people who don't want her there are admitting, we know what you actually stand for as MAGA. | ||
| And because of that, we're not going to let you into the room, right? | ||
| There's like an intentional subversion of what actually should be happening, as opposed to, oh, this is just politics. | ||
| It's a personnel thing. | ||
| It's like an ideological thing. | ||
| So who are the competing camps? | ||
| Well, I mean, surely the people who want to see us go further on Venezuela, who want to see us go further on Iran, are very happy with the status quo in which she's not a major voice in the room. | ||
| So it's no grand mystery. | ||
| Secretary Rubio, potentially Secretary Hegset, it's a competing power structure. | ||
| I mean, ODNI itself is a weird job. | ||
| It was created in the aftermath of 9-11. | ||
| And traditionally, there's three great offices of state for national security. | ||
| So that's Secretary of State, the National Security Advisor who heads the National Security Council. | ||
| Of course, with Rubio, that's both of him. | ||
| He has both roles. | ||
| And then the Secretary of Defense. | ||
| And then there's a sort of half, you know, maybe a 3.5 offices, great offices of state, to use the British term. | ||
| And that's ODNI. | ||
| And that person can be as powerful or as limited in influence with the president as the president prefers. | ||
| I mean, for instance, in the first term, I think very few people other than maybe Washington Insiders will remember Director Coates, the longtime Indiana senator, where the former Indiana senator who became the director. | ||
| It's not like that person had the celebrity that Gabbard did. | ||
| I think what's unusual about this is, number one, Gabbard is one of the most famous people in the administration. | ||
| She's a genuine celebrity. | ||
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Number two, this is the kind of fourth constituent politician that Trump wants to keep in the field. | |
| Kurt, beginning with us through the break, I want to get into what's happening in Iran. | ||
| I think it's pertinent to understand. | ||
| I mean, I always remember from the days of the Biden regime, we would hear, oh, the border's on fire, immigration isn't under control, and now we're doing all this stuff abroad. | ||
| Well, just because we fixed the border and maybe got some parts of the immigration racket under control, it wasn't fixing that so we could go and get involved into a lot of foreign entanglements. | ||
| It was to fix that and tamp all that down. | ||
| And those two tracks together, that is how you get America first. | ||
| And I don't think that there's any justification for toppling regimes in Iran. | ||
| We got Islamic extremists. | ||
| They're just in New York. | ||
| We don't need to cross the ocean. | ||
| We'll be right back after this short break. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
| Welcome back to War Room. | ||
| We are still joined by Kurt Mills. | ||
| Kurt, give us your thoughts. | ||
| Just let it rip and then we will let you go. | ||
| We know you're a busy man. | ||
| I guess all the potential regime change going on. | ||
| Maybe it's good for business of the American conservative, probably not. | ||
| But just give us the latest on everything happening in Iran, the real, the propaganda, and what our audience needs to know. | ||
| No, I mean, it's perverse incentives for us. | ||
| I mean, we were founded against change wars. | ||
| And so it's good for business, but I think bad for the country. | ||
| So to answer your question directly, these are the most severe protests in Iran since 2009, the so-called Green Revolution and the 2022 protests. | ||
| But I think very critically, hard to gauge. | ||
| And again, you have to remember, you know, severity of protest that need not necessarily correlate to impairment of the regime. | ||
| But I think by the circumstantial reports we have, these have been the third most lethal of the last 16 years, which is not nothing. | ||
| Iran has a severe water and electricity problem. | ||
| Iran is a beleaguered government, certainly since June. | ||
| But the early indications, I think, are that these protests are not enormous. | ||
| The question, I think, is: are they a tripwire for, you know, not necessarily an order from on high, but just one soldier or one member of the IRGC to shoot a protester and then that to be circulated to President Trump and people like Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton and the various think tanks here in Washington convinced him to join with the Israelis and on a strike. | ||
| That, I think, is the most basically proximate danger for the species. | ||
| Not to obviously defend a crackdown that's obviously going on there, not to defend the sort of incompetence of different parts of the Iranian state. | ||
| But medium-level protests in the country need not be a pretext for the U.S. to be involved. | ||
| I mean, of course, the United States itself has protests. | ||
| It has protests right now, as you have regaled your audience in Minneapolis. | ||
| Would it be appropriate for China or Russia to bomb Minnesota in support of the protesters? | ||
| I think not. | ||
| So we should be very careful here. | ||
| Kurt Mills, you make a great point. | ||
| If people want to follow you, read the magazine, where can they go to do that in the meantime? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The magazine is the American Conservative at theAmericanConservative.com, founded in 2002 by Conservatives and Friends Against the Iraq War. | ||
| And I am at Kurt Mills, C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X. | ||
| And, you know, Google it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thank you for joining us. | ||
| In more and possibly, I want to go to our next guest, the one and only Oscar Blue Ramirez, who joins us with some good news, talking about how Trump has pulled out of the, what is it, global compact migration, whatever, euphemistic HR-sounding UN term that is coded language for destroying America from within by mass population movements. | ||
| But give us, give us the significance of that and what that actually looks like, how that'll play out. | ||
| Well, we just recently saw that the Trump administration has gotten out of every globalist agreement with the United Nations. | ||
| And, you know, we that we are on the other side of the border, we are completely happy about it. | ||
| That is one of the most strategic and greatest moves that the Trump administration has done. | ||
| We have been saying this now for many years on the war room. | ||
| The United States of America needs to get out of the globalist compact of immigration. | ||
| The globalist compact, Natalie, was brought to the West Hemisphere by Barack Obama, the administration. | ||
| Then Donald Trump came in, he got out of it. | ||
| And then, you know, 2020 happened and it was a complete disaster. | ||
| Biden came back to it. | ||
| And now the Trump administration has completely gotten out. | ||
| So the situation right here, it is the consequence of the midterms elections, Natalie. | ||
| What is going to happen later on in the 2028 election? | ||
| It is extremely important for Republicans to win the next election. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because after CBP1 was canceled right here in Mexico, more than 1.2 million migrants stayed scattered in the borders with Mexico in the United States. | ||
| Other 1 million migrants are scattered in the central parts of Mexico. | ||
| You're talking about the 2 million migrants are waiting to see if the borders and the floodgates are going to continue to be open, or there's a possibility again to open the floodgates. | ||
| Now, another million migrants are scattered all over in Central America. | ||
| And then you have the massive situation that is happening in South America, which in this particular moment, the midterms are extremely important. | ||
| Let's see what happens. | ||
| But, you know, this is the current situation with that. | ||
| And it's extremely, you know, one of the greatest things that I have been talking about for many years, getting out of this compact of immigration, that it was the cancer that spread not only to Europe, but also to the West Hemisphere and the continent of America. | ||
| And Oscar, you're always on the front lines of so many of these issues down there. | ||
| Can you give us the latest on all things Venezuela? | ||
| Yes, we were at the borders, you know, just recently reporting over there, and we saw how there was the enormous deployment of the National Guard of Venezuela. | ||
| Tensions were rising. | ||
| Now, the situation after the extraction of Nicolas Maduro, still, there are two pieces of the puzzle that they need to be extracted. | ||
| That is Dosdado Cabello and also Padrino Lopez. | ||
| Just recently, Yosado Cabello was in a press conference saying that he was concerned about his safety. | ||
| He was concerned about his life. | ||
| And Venezuelans, of course, absolutely, they're all celebrating that he's concerned about it because he has been an extremely bad guy and he's on the loop of Marco Rubio. | ||
| As a matter of fact, Marco Rubio said multiple times that he's next on the extraction list. | ||
| But also, one of the most important things, Natalie, that has happened right now at this particular moment, it is one of the prisons that has been dedicated to torture political prisoners. | ||
| And at this moment, the leader of the prison, Eli Coyde, who recently Donald Trump said that he's possibility that he's going to close it of enforcing and talking to Del Codriguez, the new current president of Venezuela, has released political prisoners. | ||
| So the actual strategy to take control and to make peace in Venezuela by the Trump administration, you know, it's more than perfect right now. | ||
| Oscar, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with truly, we're very grateful for your reporting. | ||
| It's not just opinion. | ||
| You're there. | ||
| You're brave enough to go there. | ||
| You got the sources. | ||
| You got the access. | ||
| Really, it's invaluable. | ||
| Where can people go before we have you back on to stay up to date with everything you're doing? | ||
| Thank you so much, Natalie, for the invitation. | ||
| Oscar Ramirez TJ and ex Oscar Blue Ramirez and all, you know, and all the social media. | ||
| Be sure to be following Rav and Espanol, Real America's Voice News in Spanish also. | ||
| And you can find me at Real America's Voice News. | ||
| You know, absolutely, Natalie. | ||
| Thank you for the invitation. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| We appreciate your work. | ||
| And I believe we got Julie Kelly joining us. | ||
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| So that's Bannon to 989898. | ||
| Julie Kelly, I think we got you. | ||
| We are very glad the audience loves your take. | ||
| And I guess I wasn't on with you during January 6th, but I think I speak for all of them and I say thank you for all the work you've done. | ||
| I think you changed what that day means in history. | ||
| So we're very grateful for that. | ||
| But there's just been some wonderful, maybe glaring, maybe evil, take your pick, hypocrisy, a wonderful Ruben Gallego tweet that you really exposed, if you want to get into that, but also the sort of double standard on unmasking, I guess, anytime a law enforcement officer who's on our side of the football, not our side of the football, but just not doing something that advances a Democrat narrative. | ||
| It seems like their identity is unmasked sometimes illegally within like five minutes. | ||
| Yet, you know, January 6th stuff, it was like nothing, nothing could make them move any slower. | ||
| Walk us through all that. | ||
| So, Natalie, it was, I have a little bit of whiplash, I think, from, you know, the past few days, Tuesday, when you had an all-day somber affair in the Capitol. | ||
| Democrats once again rolling out the same tropes about January 6th, the same lies, the same misrepresentations, the same celebrity J-6 cops, I call them, who have been busted for lying under oath, not just before the J-6 committee, Nancy Pelosi's J-6 committee, but also under oath, Natalie, in court, in federal court, as victims of January 6th. | ||
| Nonetheless, here they are once again telling their sob stories. | ||
| And then they had this candlelight vigil at the end of the evening, walking down the steps of the Capitol. | ||
| They actually sang God bless America, which hella, when was the last time you heard a bunch of Democrats singing that? | ||
| And promoting the lie that police officers died as a result of January 6th. | ||
| January 6th is really the only day that most Democrats will honor law enforcement. | ||
| Otherwise, we hear how they are racist, systemically racist, to defund the police, of course, abolish ICE. | ||
| And then less than 24 hours later, after making all of these pronouncements about domestic terrorists attacking police officers, who, by the way, those people went to jail for a very long time, | ||
| here they were to swooping quickly without evidence, without knowing all the facts, the defense of this Renee Goode, we're told is her last name, who was shot and killed by a federal ICE officer after she attempted to use her SUV as a weapon and run him over after she inappropriately and unlawfully tried to obstruct, sorry, an ICE operation in Minneapolis. | ||
| So that was, it was pretty, I'm a little dizzy trying to follow the logic and logic and political approach of these Democrats who in less than 24 hours quickly changed their tune about both law enforcement and what kind of person represents a domestic terrorist. | ||
| It's too much hypocrisy to track. | ||
| I kind of feel the same way in tracking the judges and their wild decisions. | ||
| Honestly, there's a non-zero chance that somehow a judge intervenes and Maduro gets sent back to Venezuela. | ||
| But that aside, can you walk us through? | ||
| I know you've got some interesting developments on Boesberg that you wanted to highlight for us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So finally, Republicans in Congress held a hearing on the needed necessary impeachment of Jeb Bosberg, Judge James Bosberg, who is the chief judge of the DC District Court. | ||
| Of course, we have discussed Natalie, you and I, many times, and Steve and I have as well. | ||
| I've posted for years, actually, about Jeb Bosberg and his involvement in the January 6th prosecution. | ||
| He gave Ray Epps infamously a slap on the wrist. | ||
| Same with Michael Sussman. | ||
| So he has designated himself judicial enemy number one of the Trump administration, thwarting and sabotaging one of the president's key immigration policies, the Alien Enemies Act, which ordered the immediate removal of illegal Venezuelans tied to Trende Aragua. | ||
| This was back in March. | ||
| Of course, Jeb Bosberg, not just putting a halt to that, but then using those proceedings as the basis to pursue criminal contempt charges against people at the Department of Justice and Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| Thankfully, the Supreme Court has stepped in and put a halt to that. | ||
| But there's a long line of egregious misconduct by Jeb Bosberg. | ||
| But Natalie, it's funny, despite everything that Jeb Bosberg had done in the January 6th prosecution as the chief judge overseeing grand jury proceedings in the two criminal cases against Donald Trump, January 6th and the classified documents case. | ||
| The only time that Jeb Bosberg actually got the attention of Republicans in Washington was when he signed non-disclosure orders, basically gag orders, prohibiting cell phone carriers from notifying members of Congress, eight or nine Republican senators, at least one House member, prohibiting those cell phone carriers from notifying those targets that the Department of Justice under special counsel Jack Smith were seeking, | ||
| had subpoenaed their phone records. | ||
| That was enough to finally tick off Republicans in Washington. | ||
| So a subcommittee of the Senate Judiciary Committee today, led by Ted Cruz, urged the House, of course, impeachment proceedings have to start in the House. | ||
| There is a resolution that was introduced by Representative Brandon Gill. | ||
| We're not really sure where that is. | ||
| So urging. | ||
| I can pause you there. | ||
| I want to hold you through coming up against a break, but I want to get clear next steps, most importantly, so we can hold our House Republicans accountable. | ||
| Because here in the war room, we like accountability. | ||
| They call it retribution. | ||
| We call it justice. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome back to the war room. | ||
| We've still got Julie Kelly. | ||
| Julie, I want you to finish kind of the point you were making, just so the audience can understand the timeline of events. | ||
| So this is Jeb Bosberg, that impeachment inquiry into him, hopefully forcing House Republicans now to open up, officially open up that inquiry into impeaching him. | ||
| Also, recommendations to impeach Judge Deborah Boardman, who was the one who imposed that really late sentence on the individual who had attempted or planned to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh. | ||
| Of course, Natalie, there's a very long list of judges who need at least some sort of censure or some official House commendation of their conduct. | ||
| So I guess this is a start. | ||
| We'll see exactly what the House does with that. | ||
| But another frustrating thing is today, every single Republican senator, Natalie, voted in favor of hanging a plaque in the U.S. Capitol to honor law enforcement agencies who defended the building on January 6, 2021. | ||
| This is the sort of theatrics, the sort of performative work product that we get, unfortunately, too often from Senate Republicans here a few days later, after you have Democrats accusing a federal officer of committing murder, now honoring law enforcement agencies that, by the way, started attacking U.S. citizens on government property in the middle of the day, | ||
| responsible for killing three of them. | ||
| This is the Capitol Police and D.C. Metro Police, then opened up investigative units across the country, Capitol Police, to further spy on U.S. citizens. | ||
| And then, of course, also honoring the FBI, which had a still unknown number of informants and undercover agents embedded in groups before and on January 6th, and then used their power for four years to treat J-Sixers like legitimate domestic terrorists, not people who try to run over ICE agents, people who walk into a government building in the middle of the day. | ||
| This is what our Republican senators, each and every one of them, voted today to honor those law enforcement agencies that have weaponized their power repeatedly for years against their own constituents. | ||
| Really, way to go, guys. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Those are the what the same ones all worked up about, you know, human rights in every other country except the United States of America. | ||
| Yes, spare me, the regime change theatrics. | ||
| Julie Kelly, the audience always appreciates you coming on. | ||
| Before we have you back, where can people go to follow you and stay up to date with everything you're working on? | ||
| Always glad to be on with you, Natalie. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack and then X, Julie underscore Kelly 2. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am, for joining us. | ||
| Talk to you soon. | ||
| Thanks, Natalie. | ||
| Just remember, I guess I don't have to remind this audience how they tried to take you out with January 6th. | ||
| I always liken it to the 100 flowers campaign in communist China. | ||
| They wanted to use that day to identify dissent and just absolutely crush and destroy. | ||
| And that they tried to do. | ||
| But I think the real reason that they hate you, it's why I keep saying we voted for regime change here in the United States, not abroad, is because we kind of did that, right? | ||
| I think January 6th and MAGA is sort of the inverse of the establishment, you know, CIA-led regime change, where they're really good at the, you know, seizing the capital, toppling the dictator, all that, but then they're not really good at solidifying power or nation building. | ||
| Meanwhile, in MAGA, not that we're for toppling dictators or taking over capitals, but we're really good at solidifying power and we're really good at nation building despite their best efforts to lie to us and repeatedly tell us that America is not a nation, whether it's tapping into our energy reserves, promoting a common identity. | ||
| I really think that's why they resent us. | ||
| I was just thinking that as Julie was talking, it's because we are able to do what they have tried to do in countries abroad and frankly, what they've tried to do in the most distorted and perverse way here in the United States, trying to nation build us into a country that looks nothing like our founding fathers intended, right? | ||
| Progressive. | ||
| They want to progress away from that. | ||
| But I guess they're quite open about that. | ||
| They're what out there trying to assassinate ICE officers and DHS officials and border patrol leaders. | ||
| Take your pick. | ||
| Sorry, the Somalians. | ||
| It's the crazy white liberals. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| Mike Lindell, I think you know a little too much about that, not just being protested, but what's going on in Minnesota. | ||
| We've got a few minutes. | ||
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| That's quite exciting. | ||
| Give us the latest on that and the latest on all things my pillow. | ||
| And you know, you talk about, you know, Operation Arctic Frost, where they weaponized the government against me and many others with the DOJ, the FBI, and they had all that happen. | ||
| And now all of a sudden, they're okay or they're going against, like you say, ICE and everything else, going, oh, we don't want them doing their jobs. | ||
| I mean, this is just, it's, it's flipped on its head. | ||
| The stuff that's going on here in Minnesota with the fraud and everything. | ||
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| And something tells me if an investigative reporter came to your offices in Minnesota, they would not find a bunch of Stomalians receiving a bunch of money to do, I don't know what with, but not whatever they're supposed to be doing with it. | ||
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| Thank you guys for hanging with me. | ||
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| And of course, Steve is back tomorrow morning. |