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Dec. 29, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5028: Somalian Fraud Proven To Be Rampant In Minnesota; Making American Prosperity The Number One Goal

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Participants
Main
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rosemary jenks
07:54
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steve bannon
r 21:03
Appearances
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bo french
00:34
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dave brat
02:45
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donald j trump
admin 00:47
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emma greenman
d 01:25
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mike lindell
r 04:48
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nick shirley
03:37
Clips
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jake tapper
cnn 00:10
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volodymyr zelenskyy
ukr 00:06
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Speaker Time Text
donald j trump
I really believe we're probably, Mr. President, closer than by far closer than ever before with both parties.
We had some times when he was close and President Putin wasn't.
And when President Putin was close and he wasn't, you saw that in the White House.
But I think they both want to see it happen.
nick shirley
What do you guys think about the fraud that's taking place here in Minnesota?
emma greenman
I don't think anybody is enabling fraud to happen.
unidentified
What was this money spent on?
1.26 million.
What was that?
How many passes out?
There aren't any kids.
nick shirley
Answer the question.
Are there children?
There's no children inside this building.
Potentially the largest fraud scandal in U.S. history is taking place in Minnesota as literally billions of dollars have been funneled through Somali-ran fraudulent businesses.
So much fraud, it could actually almost replace the entire GDP of Somalia.
These fraudsters have worked hand in hand with the Minnesota government as they enabled billions of dollars to be given to fraudulent businesses underneath welfare purposes.
Some of this money eventually landed in the hands of terrorist groups in Somalia like the Al-Shabaab and others enriched themselves all at the U.S. taxpayers' expense.
unidentified
Well, this is actually two daycares are registered here.
One of them is Mako, which you see on this sign.
The other one is Mini Child Care Center.
And between the two of these child care centers, they're pulling in about $3 million a year.
And there are no children.
Every facility that you go to, the windows will be blocked out so you can't see in.
There's nobody here.
You won't see a single child at any of these facilities.
nick shirley
There are indeed no windows.
All the windows are blacked out right here.
All right, let's go in.
And the child care center is locked.
Should we ring the doorbell?
unidentified
Yeah.
nick shirley
Try to get in, rang the doorbell.
Nobody showed up.
They're open seven days a week, 7 a.m. to 10 p.m.
It says here on their sign.
Yet there's absolutely nobody here.
And this building here right here has generated millions of dollars and seems like business isn't even open right now and it's a weekday.
unidentified
We have a great achievement.
20 point peace plan 90% agreed and US Ukraine security guarantees 100% agreed.
US Europe Ukraine security guarantees almost agreed.
Military dimension 100% agreed.
volodymyr zelenskyy
Prosperity Plan being finalized and we also discussed the sequencing of the following actions.
unidentified
And we agree that security guarantees is the key milestone in achieving lasting peace.
In fiscal year 2025, this facility, which says it's licensed for 74 kids, was paid $1.26 million in tax money.
And there are no kids and all the facilities are the same way.
All of them.
nick shirley
Let's see if anyone opens.
unidentified
Yeah, let's see.
nick shirley
Once again, I try to find a spot for my son Joey, and they would not open the door.
I want to put my son Joey in daycare.
Because I need a spot to put my son Joey.
Is this your daycare center?
unidentified
No, it's not.
What there?
What's happening?
nick shirley
I just want to put a child in daycare, but all the daycare centers seem to be closed.
No one's opening the doors.
unidentified
You work here?
Oh, well, yeah.
What's happening?
Where are the kids?
It says it's licensed for 74 children.
Right here, state of Minnesota.
Where are the kids?
They got paid $1.26 million in fiscal year 2025.
It says they have a capacity for 74 children.
When?
When?
Where are the kids?
Right here.
State of Minnesota website.
You work here and you don't know?
I don't know.
I was there before.
I don't know what's going on.
Were there any kids when you worked here?
He's dead.
Kids are there.
How many?
I don't know.
You don't know.
Yeah.
You worked here.
Okay, well, then you're not of any help.
nick shirley
Can I put my son in a daycare here?
unidentified
No, no, I don't know.
nick shirley
Can I speak to someone?
unidentified
No, I don't know.
nick shirley
No?
Yeah, I would like to see if I can put my son Joey here.
unidentified
Who's inside Joey?
nick shirley
My son, Joey.
Can I check out Daycare Center?
unidentified
I'm going to know my son.
No!
nick shirley
Do you put your kid here in this daycare?
There is one child in there.
Yeah, I'd like to know if this is a legit business.
unidentified
Me, I'm scared of you, too.
How come I explain existence?
nick shirley
You're scared of me?
unidentified
Yeah.
Why?
nick shirley
Because of my color.
You said you're scared of me because of my color.
Does that make you a racist?
Yeah, no.
You said you're scared of me because of my color.
unidentified
I'm not saying you're racist.
nick shirley
You said you're scared of me because of my color.
That makes you a racist.
So right now, they're all getting mad because he's showing the paperwork of this business being registered as a business.
74 children.
No children.
He saw one child when the lady opened up the door.
So now they're all getting mad.
unidentified
What was this money spent on?
1.26 million.
What was that money spent?
There aren't any kids.
Ask the donder.
I'm the kids.
Well, then why are you talking if you're talking about the money?
I'm sorry.
I'm not understanding what he's talking about.
Do you have a child here?
No.
Does anybody?
No.
So, in your conversation with President Putin, did you discuss what responsibility Russia will have for any kind of reconstruction of Ukraine post-agreement?
donald j trump
I did.
They're going to be helping.
Russia is going to be helping.
Russia wants to see Ukraine succeed.
It sounds a little strange, but I was explaining to the president.
President Putin was very generous in his feeling toward Ukraine succeeding, including supplying energy, electricity, and other things at very low prices.
So a lot of good things came out of that call today.
But they were in the works for two weeks with.
nick shirley
Here at Future Leaders Early Learning Center, this building received $3 million, over $3 million.
unidentified
So where we're going now is a place called Super Kids Daycare Center.
Interestingly, this daycare center was shut down when it was called Creative Minds Daycare, and it had received $2.45 million this fiscal year, 2025.
They had to shut down because there were so many violations, and they went and they just reopened under a new license and they renamed the center Super Kids Daycare Center LLC.
nick shirley
So they got shut down and started another one.
unidentified
Literally the next day.
nick shirley
Creative Minds Daycare, $2.45 million got sent to this daycare center.
We have empty parking lot.
We do have a bus here.
This is different.
We'll see if we see anybody.
I knocked on the door.
Absolutely nobody was inside.
And once again, no children could be heard anywhere.
He called the cops on us and we headed to the state capitol where they're having a meeting about the fraud to confront the state representatives and people in the government who have enabled and let this fraud happen.
Inside of this committee, a Republican representative showed charts showing exactly how this fraud has been committed and who is profiting and connecting all the dots.
And while the Democrat representatives looked into the abyss, one of them spoke about how none of this is building trust and how this is a non-partisan issue.
So I went and confronted her after that.
unidentified
Yes, yes, that's what I'm doing.
nick shirley
We have some very valid questions to ask about what's going on here in Minnesota, and do you think this fraud crosses...
emma greenman
I don't know who you are.
nick shirley
My name is Nick Shirley.
Do you think this fraud is Republican or Democrat or just facts that fraud is happening?
emma greenman
So just now that it's all part of it.
nick shirley
Because I've got it as a partisan issue.
Well, because that's what I heard you talking about.
emma greenman
I know what I said is because we're talking about it.
nick shirley
We want to build trust, but fraud is fraud, so why should we be enabling fraud to happen here?
emma greenman
No, I don't think anybody is enabling fraud to happen.
Okay, sir.
unidentified
No, no, no.
emma greenman
Sir, sir.
unidentified
What are you going to hold Governor Walls like?
No, no, no.
She is a representative for the state of Minnesota.
Yes or no?
emma greenman
Excuse me?
unidentified
Yes, are you?
If you're going to talk to me like that, I'm a disability advocate.
emma greenman
I have to say that.
I heard you.
unidentified
And I believe that you're stimulated to test it.
No, no, no.
nick shirley
Man, the facts are the facts that fraud is happening here, and it's not a nonpartisan issue.
How come you think fraud has been able to happen so much underneath?
emma greenman
I think if you've been listening to our test, our hearings, we've had now 10 hearings on this.
And so there's really good data from the people who both work within the administration as well as who, both Democrat and Republicans.
I think what you heard today is that the Republicans who control this committee are not actually interested in solving fraud.
What they're interested in is telling a story.
nick shirley
This fraud has happened underneath Democrat leader Tim Waltz.
emma greenman
There has been Medicaid fraud across the country under Democrats and Republicans.
There's fraud within the Trump administration.
We have is fraud public private providers have made government a mark.
And so every person running government, Democrats or Republicans, are dealing with the issue of how to keep fraudsters out of our public payment.
We're also dealing with veterans.
We're dealing with consumers.
I hope you're looking at that.
If you look at United Health, currently is being charged with defrauding Medicare.
You know who runs Medicare?
President Trump.
Medicaid fraud is a 50-state issue.
And so, again, it is not a partisan issue.
There are Democrats and Republicans who are sitting in that committee talking about it.
But what you did here was the Republican chair say she's not turning information over to the one person in government who can stop payment.
And I hope you print that.
unidentified
It's corrupt.
emma greenman
Thank you for coming.
unidentified
Didn't I?
This is crazy.
Well, it's the state of Minnesota that we live in, and these politicians are just walking off thinking it's okay to say and they want to go visit the Trump.
They want to blame the Trump administration.
We have Democrats blaming ICE.
I'm tired.
My people are suffering.
I'm scared for my little brother.
My people are suffering.
And these people just walk off.
We have a governor who doesn't care.
How many more people are going to freaking die?
How many more people are going to go homeless?
And how many more people are gonna be trafficked in our freaking system?
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
You're going to have not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Monday, 29, December, Year of the Lord, 2025.
We're going to cover it all today.
Ukraine, Netanyahu coming with the Greater Israel Plan, President Trump, his team not particularly receptive, but we've got to go and talk about not just this massive fraud, but the in-your-face nature of it.
Mike Lindell, first, Mike, you just see there, it's so blatant and so obvious, and they've had so many investigations looking at they will not stop it because bringing in hundreds of thousands of the Somalians and others, right, is the way this system works.
And I got to tell you, I can tell you this.
This is every blue state, IRS, Treasury, money laundering, the banks that set up the payrolls here.
This is a scandal that's going to go from state to state to state, but the tip of the spear and the festering soar before us is Minnesota.
Mike Lindell, you're running for governor against walls.
What say you?
mike lindell
Well, yeah, Steven, it's everything.
It's education, autism service, child care, Medicaid, housing.
They have infiltrated every single one of these government Medicare or welfare services.
And now they even have one where they're giving cars.
It's non-medical emergency welfare where you bring older people to the dentist, say, and they're getting all these cars.
There's nobody in them.
Just like there's no kids in these daycare.
And it is.
It's coming out today.
Ohio, Pennsylvania, Maine.
This is opening, I think, state-sized all around the country.
But the New York Post came out the other day, everybody, on December 21st.
$9 billion in Minnesota.
That's half of the federal money given to Minnesota over the last, I think, six years.
And it's more or real close to the whole economy of Somalia.
All this money being sent out.
They're buying housing around Minneapolis.
They're buying these houses.
Nobody in them.
They're getting paid for that with these high-priced cars out there.
Steve, it's just, it's absolutely disgusting.
And then we have our governor that is just, he's going, we got to get rid of the guns.
We got to get rid of the guns.
He's totally deflecting the Minnesota media, everybody.
This is what's really disgusting.
The media in Minnesota is basically like a big cover-up.
It's like you would go there and you think everything, all is well, all is well.
And our lieutenant governor, horrible.
You know, they're blaming our great president saying he's just attacking this community, the Somalian community that's a big part of Minnesota.
No, this goes back, Steve.
I want to say this too.
We warned of this years ago in 2016.
Companies like MyPillow and then there was Cargill.
It was a big thing in the news back then.
Cargill had to fire over 200 of them because they all want Sharia law.
They have their prayer times and it interferes with businesses.
So this is when they were maybe working them before they got into all of these government welfare scams.
But they fired them and then that was a big deal because it was politic wasn't politically correct when they don't come over here and assimilate and say, you know, we got to shut down our lives.
I know I have an Amazon building right next to my pillow.
And Jeff Bezos got into it with them then back then too for that.
unidentified
But yeah, it's really ticketing.
steve bannon
Well, it's not sad.
mike lindell
It's a crime syndicate.
It is.
steve bannon
It's a crime syndicate.
You have a Muslim attorney general who's covering for him, Keith Ellison.
So the whole thing's right into the court.
Action's got to be taken today.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Rosemary Drinks are going to join us today, Brett.
Mike Lindell, short commercial break.
We'll be back in a moment.
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steve bannon
Okay.
You got Keith Ellison, the Muslim Attorney General, who goes after the Christian network of Mike Lindell.
That's a recovery network based upon Christian values and Christian principles.
Well, he refuses to go after the Somalians.
You've got the Lieutenant Governor Flanagan.
I think she's a Mick like I am.
And she's wearing a hijib and saying, you know, that we're united with the Somalians.
So you got that going on.
And then you just had Tim Waltz referred to Nick Shirley.
And Nick, he was one of our nominees here at the war room.
We had a list of nominees we could put up for the James O'Keefe Award and he won the James O'Keefe Award.
He's absolutely incredible what this young man does.
And of course, the governor of Waltz just referred to him, I think, is a white supremacist.
Mike Lindell, you're running for governor.
What are the action items you're going to do as governor to clean this mess up?
This is in every blue state in the country.
You're going to find this across the board.
They're using your money.
Think about the end of the year, folks, how hard it is for you to get your records together for the taxes you get to pay here shortly, how tough it is today to make it, all the pressures you've got on you.
And they're stealing money and laughing in your face.
They're laughing in your face.
They don't even pretend to have the kids in the school.
When somebody shows up, they got a made-in-one excuse and they play domo.
I don't know.
I don't, you're white.
I don't speak the language.
They got to all be deported.
They're a crime syndicate.
We don't need to have a crime syndicate here in the United States.
They all have to go.
Mike Lindell.
mike lindell
Yeah, well, I'll tell you, Steve, here's another thing that the Muslim Keith Ellison has attacked: my Lindell Foundation.
And this was set up, everybody.
This is something I haven't even told everybody.
About 10 years ago, we worked on it in 106 countries.
I developed it, developed it in Detroit.
It's a perfect fit for such a time as this, involving private sector money to get rid of these welfare programs and these new models coming in.
And Keith Ellison, I think he knew that.
He attacked this over a year ago.
He's still attacking me.
But if I'm governor or when I'm governor, I'll say when I'm governor, I will hold all you got to hold every department accountable.
You can't just go, oh, you know, we're going to look at this.
We're going to look at this.
When you have a big business, you look at every single part.
You look for deviation.
If you can't figure out there's $9 billion missing, you're in the wrong business.
And then transparency, Steve.
I'll tell you what.
I'll be the most transparent governor this country's ever seen.
The people are going to know where the problems lie, and then we fix them.
steve bannon
And the governor, the lieutenant governor, and the attorney general if evidence is out there that they knew about this and knew about and didn't do anything to correct this.
This is billions of dollars.
You got people that are in need that need this cash.
You don't have it.
Is this rise to the level of potential of criminal charges?
mike lindell
Oh, they should all be in prison.
Every one of them.
If they're part of this, they should all be in prison.
This is step beyond belief.
This is, they say it could be the biggest massive fraud in the history of the United States.
And think about it, everybody.
Let's say these were good programs.
There were people that they were allotted for that the, you know, there's people that really do need daycare.
There's people that really do need some of these programs.
And those people didn't get it.
So this is like the American taxpayers, the Minnesota taxpayers, and then the people that really needed it.
And yeah, they should be in prison for a long time.
And every one of them held accountable.
And it goes so deep.
Remember, everybody, too, the Minnesota, the Somalians and all that came up with our election platforms in the 2020 election.
That was all exposed then.
Things go back to that.
We're going to be looking into all that too, along with all of these programs.
And Steve, I want to tell everybody if you guys cannot, you want to see up there, but I'm going to be doing it's mikelindellgub.com.
Check it out, and you'll see all the things we're going to be doing to make Minnesota safe again, free again, secure again.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike.
We'll send everybody over to the site.
Thank you so much.
Appreciate you, sir.
mike lindell
Thanks, guys.
unidentified
Thanks.
mike lindell
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Rosemary Jenks, this is why we're calling for a 10-year moratorium.
No immigration.
These immigration and refugee programs and amnesty programs and asylum programs are so corrupt.
And now it's in your face.
And you can't go through onesies, twosies.
You need a man.
Of course, the New York Times had this piece over the weekend, how horrible it would be if we were to actually implement moratoriums, not just getting rid of the H-1B visas, but moratoriums across the board on no immigration for a decade until we get this mess sorted out.
Your thoughts, ma'am.
rosemary jenks
Yeah, I absolutely agree with that.
I mean, reading the New York Times, I think most Americans would say, yeah, okay, what's wrong with that?
Nothing at all.
The problem with all of this is that we have been importing people from cultures that don't have governments that give handouts.
You know, in Somalia, you don't get a government handout for anything.
The government's keeping any money that they get to enrich themselves.
So if you import people from cultures that are not used to the government being benevolent and handing out money, of course they're going to come here and say, oh, the government's willing to give me money.
How do I get more?
And the, you know, rule of law is not that important in other places as it is here, as we hope it is here.
So, you know, in Minnesota, every single person who signed one of those checks should go to jail.
Every person who is in government who had any oversight over any of that should either be prosecuted or fired because they failed.
This is, we are going to see that this is happening across the United States.
It's going to be happening everywhere because we have created a system that incentivizes fraud, that encourages fraud, and that rewards fraud.
And, you know, we bring in the family members and the extended relatives of all these people who are committing the fraud.
We naturalize them into U.S. citizens.
We have election integrity issues with non-citizens voting.
Every part of our system needs to be torn down and rebuilt to stop this.
And the first step in all of that is a moratorium to give us an opportunity to get our house in order because clearly our house is not in order.
And this isn't just $8 billion being thrown out the window.
This is our money.
This is the money that we worked our tails off all year long and paid the government in taxes being tossed away so that these folks can get rich off us.
It's disgusting.
steve bannon
This is, yeah.
No, no, just like they created, remember, this is not chaos at all.
Just like they set up the system and the southern border with the NGOs and government to exacerbate, drive and exacerbate a 15 to 20 million person individual invasion of our country.
This is the next part.
This is how they get them on welfare with your money.
This is how they get them to vote.
This is how they keep the Democrats in office.
You got a big article today in the Guardian about the Working Families Party is now going to go nationwide because it's built upon this.
This scam is very intricately put together.
The machinery, every piece of the machinery is kind of works together.
And that's why you need a 10-year moratorium.
No immigration whatsoever for any reason.
None.
You've got to get to the bottom of this.
To root this out and to take it apart and to make sure that American citizens who work their ass off, right, the taxes they paid are actually going to things that they support and to make sure these people are not coming in and competing against them for jobs and for opportunities and resources.
This is outrageous.
This is just the tip of it.
Every blue state, this is the racket.
This is how they run.
Why do you think they're digging in so hard on ICE?
Why do you think they're digging in so hard on sanctuary cities?
Because this is the system they've built to perpetuate this radical neo-Marxist jihadist rule.
Rosemary Jenks, this is why we can't do this incrementally.
Oh, we're going to take this program.
You got to get rid of H-1Bs today and ship them all home and give those jobs to American citizens.
And then a 10-year moratorium on every other program, 10-year moratorium.
That's how long it's going to take to take this thing back to the basics and reconstruct it.
Rosemary Jenks.
rosemary jenks
You're absolutely right.
And the only way we're going to get this done is if all of the American people stand up and tell their members of Congress, we're done.
It's over.
We're not doing this anymore.
We are not paying taxes so that you can throw our money away.
We need a moratorium.
We need to build support for this.
Congressman Chip Roy has introduced a moratorium bill that would stop every visa, legal immigration, temporary workers, all of it, except for tourists.
And it would go probably for more than 10 years, actually.
But we need to build support for this.
We need Americans to stand up.
And, you know, the Immigration Accountability Project, my organization, needs your help to get this to happen.
We need to build this support in Congress.
We are working every day to do that, to educate members of Congress on the need for this, to keep this issue, the immigration issue, in front of their faces all the time.
It is, we can't do it without your support, and Congress won't do it without your support.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have to drive this because you have Zelensky who's stealing money right off the top with Yermik in your face laughing at you.
He's no, what's the difference?
A difference in degree, but not in kind for what Zelensky and the guys in Ukraine have done with American taxpayer money and what the Samayans doing.
They're sitting there laughing at you talking about a Ukrainian prosperity plan.
We're talking about a Gaza prosperity plan, right?
Where $60 billion of the $300 billion has to be secured by American taxpayers.
How about this?
How about a working, how about working men and women, the working class and middle class in this country?
What about a prosperity plan for them?
And it starts with stopping the criminal syndicates of these immigrants from coming in here.
A 10-year moratorium, nothing, nothing less.
10 years, a decade.
At the end of the decade, we'll see what we got.
Dave Bratt's going to join us.
Bo French from Texas got a massive problem down in Texas.
Rosemary's going to stick around.
We're going to get all this done, and then we're going to talk about Ukraine, what's actually really happening.
And of course, Netanyahu's coming, Imperial Israel, the Netanyahu's Greater Israel Project makes their pitch today for war with Persia.
I don't know.
Going into Syria, the whole lot of it.
We'll break it all down.
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Dave Bratt, thoughts about this?
This is one of the ticking.
I mean, we've got to put America first here, America's interest first, but most specifically, the citizens of this great country.
They're getting ripped off now, and people are in your face laughing at you, laughing at you.
Somebody, one of the engine room just texts me and says, hey, how can these politicians be so stupid at Minnesota?
They're not stupid.
These people are not stupid.
They're in on this con.
They're in on the scam.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
This is like the head of, remember the head of DHS would go, remember they would go to Congress every day and testify there's nothing happening at the border.
You guys are all conspiracy theorists.
You're all a bunch of xenophobes, a bunch of nativists.
Hey, what we are is we support American citizens, particularly the working class and middle class that bear the brunt of all of it.
You see and you see this Somalian, it's a crime syndicate.
They've brought in a crime syndicate in the America and they got us deport the crime syndicate like ASAP.
And starting with Omar, people want action here.
Enough strongly worded letters.
Dave Bratt.
dave brat
Yep.
That's the key word right now is Mark from Erasmus and comes on and he says we don't need to join the elites and the globalists and the corruption.
We need to defeat it and put them in jail.
And the young people, that's the new piece, right?
Today, I think Trump's polling numbers are going to go through the roof after this week.
On this issue, MSN CBS poll last week had Trump's numbers on deportation at 54%.
That's from CBS.
So that's probably 64%.
And I'll bet it goes to 74%.
In Europe, the top seven countries, I think this is going to be why everything cracks this week.
And the American people and the young people are going to demand action.
In Europe, the numbers are 64 to 82% for cracking down.
But freedom and rights are under attack in this way.
When you see this $12 billion stolen from the American people, that is the GDP of Somalia, $12 billion.
Between 78 and 91% of Europeans who are ahead of us by a few years, 78 to 91% of Europeans want to deport people who came to claim benefits.
That's where it really ticks the American people because this country was founded on the right.
steve bannon
But hang on a second.
Oh, slow down, slow down.
I know, slow down, slow down, slow down.
Focus.
They want action.
President Trump's ratings would go to 120% if it had more action.
You got a lot of people there stumbling around what they should use.
It's very simple.
Where's the task force?
The FBI, the Justice Department should have a task force there right now.
They should be purpose.
They should go to all those centers right now, purpock them out.
President Trump's got the right plan is that the people underneath him, are they executing at the level of intensity that we need?
And let me go back to this moratorium.
We need a 10-year moratorium immediately.
And we can't, no more of the H-1B visas.
You got, you know, they're checking their social media.
I'll get Rosemary here back in a second.
So you got a bunch of folks in India that can't get back on the plane because they said, well, hang on for a second.
You know, our social media cleanup.
Have they paid the $100,000?
How about this?
Just eliminate the program.
We need dramatic and tough action, and you need it now to convince the American people.
Yes, the polling shows people want this.
They can't sit there and see that and not want action because they're being ripped off.
It's their money and opportunity costs away from them.
There are people out there that need daycare.
They ain't getting it because billions of dollars are being stolen by this crime syndicate, and that's what it is.
And none of the officials, you got the lieutenant governor, she's walking around in a hijib, right?
She's walking around.
Oh, we're in solidarity with our Samayans.
Some guy was on the other day.
Samayans are the key part of what makes Minnesota.
So you need action, and action means hard action, tough action, deportations, right?
Criminal, you know, criminal indictments.
10-year moratorium, eliminate H-1Bs.
Action, action, action.
Of course, in Europe, look at the polling, and nothing gets done.
It's getting worse.
The Islamization of Europe.
This is why we're going to Texas on the 9th of January with Gert Vilders, who's over here, right?
Gert's over here.
He's been the number one guy calling for this for decades, and he's fighting against their own.
He's fighting the equivalent of the Republican establishment and or the globalists that don't want this to happen.
So, yes, I agree.
The polling's there, but it could be so much even better and lock in a victory in 2026 and really change the narrative, change the thing.
I tell you, with the economy starting to come back, and I realize it hasn't hit everybody.
I understand that, but you start to see this tectonic plate shift coming back.
When the Democrats don't have that, they're going to get more and more radical.
And you see how they perpetuate themselves.
How they perpetuate themselves is you're seeing the Samayan situation in Minnesota, and that's how they do it around the country.
That's why this major cities in this country are sanctuary cities.
This is why they're prepared to do anything to stop ICE agents.
This is why they're going to court to stop the National Guard from coming in and protecting ICE agents as they're going to do mass deportations.
We're still in the bad ombre's business of doing the onesies, twosies, right?
It's now time to go and let's get some mass deportations, send them all home.
All 15 to 20 million that came here enduring Biden got to go, okay?
And all this, and these criminal syndicates that they brought in, the Samayans are nothing more than a criminal syndicate, and they got to go.
Dave Bratt.
dave brat
Yeah, I wanted to emphasize the polling.
What I was trying to show is that we have a right.
Americans have a right to our money.
Our rights are being violated by these people stealing our money.
And this is just the tip of the iceberg with a money piece, right?
Wait till we show how many congressmen and women and state legislators have a million dollars.
Why do you think all these congress people leave with millions of dollars?
When Trump shows that and shows the money and the theft, it's going to be huge.
It is a syndicate.
How do you think the left, and all this, by the way, is from the left, right?
Everybody for Zelensky, $350 billion.
We can't get an audit of $350 billion.
There's no accountability here.
And I do want to give a shout out to Rosemary Jenks.
If you're ticked off and you want to take action, not enough, all companies want cheap labor, right?
So the big bucks aren't supporting you.
You need to go to the Rosemary Jenks place, Immigration Accountability Project, IAP.org, and support her today, right now.
Everybody listening, if you want to take action, go give her whatever you can, right?
This is the issue that's populist.
Immigration, I ran on it a decade ago and I won on it because the American people vote.
But the money is really in the way, right, with a huge money now.
The tech bros and the media, you know the story, right?
But the corruption in order to break the corruption is what Rosemary says.
unidentified
You need to speak up and you need to contact your congressman.
steve bannon
The money's not in the way.
The money's on their side, okay?
Yes.
They want the mass immigration.
They're the ones supporting the H-1Bs.
What did Elon?
What did Elmo say?
That's the hill he's going to die on.
He's going to rip our faces off and go to a type of war.
They're reeling right now, thinking of everything in the world.
Every piece of lipstick they can put on that pig, they're trying to put on it, right?
And that's why we have to eliminate.
It's very simple.
Nothing, just eliminate it and allow American citizens to fill those billets today.
Rosemary Jenks, your thoughts on this?
Particularly, the New York Times made this huge thing, whining.
What's America going to look like if these right-wing fanatics get this moratorium done?
You know what, if you read the article, not too shabby, right?
I think most Americans say, hey, if the alternative is what I got here, and this is only going to get worse, this is not going to get better unless you eradicate it.
The way you eradicate it is shut all the programs down.
You can't have like little incremental changes in Congress.
They all have to go.
Rosemary Jinks.
rosemary jenks
Yeah, I mean, if you look back at our immigration history, you see we had the great wave at the turn of the last century, and then we shut off immigration in the 1920s.
And surprise, surprise, after World War II, we had the largest growth of the middle class that we've ever had.
So we had prosperity during low immigration.
And then we passed the 1965 Act and immigration started growing again and prosperity started declining again.
So, you know, we know what to do here.
We know that if you tighten the labor market, you increase wages.
It's not that hard.
Everyone has heard of the law of supply and demand.
It's time to shut it down again.
We've had too much for too long.
The last 50 years of mass immigration is too much.
So shut it down.
Let's start over, figure out where we are.
And, you know, then we can decide as a nation what immigration policy serves our interests.
But nobody's ever asked us.
Nobody has ever asked the American people what we want as an immigration policy.
And that needs to change.
So, you know, we need everyone to help us get to Congress.
We're at iapaction.com or iaproject.org.
We need you to help us.
We've got a congressional immigration rating system at iapaction.com where you can see exactly where your members of Congress stand, what they have been doing on the immigration issue.
And we need your help to move them, to get them to understand the devastating impacts that immigration is having on our country, whether it's through the theft of welfare dollars, whether it's through overcrowded schools and hospitals and housing and all the rest of it, whether it's taking our jobs at the lower end of the economic scale and at the higher end through the H-1B program and the L1 program and all the other myriad visas that we have.
We need to shut it all down and start over.
steve bannon
Fantastic.
Hang on for one second.
I want you two guys to stick around.
Bo French joins us now from Texas.
Bo, on 9 January, we've got Gert Fielders, myself, and others that'll be announced.
We're going to have an event in Texas to talk about this Islamic invasion of Texas.
Sir, you're one of the folks helping us get a, by the way, it's going to sell out pretty quickly.
So everybody get to the website.
Everybody see the brochure we put out.
I want people to hit it today in the Texas area.
It's going to be up in Grapevine.
Bo, your thoughts about this.
bo french
Yeah, well, first of all, we're super excited to have you guys here in Texas to talk about something that I've been talking about for a long time, really.
I think I was one of the first elected officials in Texas to really be focused on the Islamization of Texas and all the potential harm that does to our culture, to our economy.
Unlike the line go up Republicans, I think that some growth is good, not all growth is good.
And this focus on just allowing these people to bring their third world, you know, antiquated culture into America.
steve bannon
Did we freeze up there?
Okay, might have frozen.
I'll tell you what, we'll reboot.
We're going to go to a break anyway.
Let's reboot Bo and we'll do this again.
Rosemary Jenks is with us.
Dave Brad is with us.
We're going to get this done.
Then we're going to pivot to Netanyahu's visit today, what happened yesterday with Ukraine.
We got Kurt Mills.
We got Dr. Bradley Thayer.
We're absolutely packed wall to wall.
Rosemary Jenks and Dave Brad will stay through the break.
Make sure I've got Philip Patrick also is going to join us.
Philip Patrick's going to talk to us a little bit about silver.
He happens to be in London right now.
So we'll make sure we get all that.
We'll break all that down for you.
Silver over this weekend.
Absolutely incredible ride.
As you know, we've been talking about not just gold, but other precious metals.
That's where if you get the brochure, which is free and no obligation, just text Ben and B-A-N-N-O-N at 989898.
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But most importantly, put you in touch with Philip Patrick and his team.
On top of everything else, the Chinese Communist Party doing an encirclement exercise, live fire military exercise around Taiwan today.
Get to all that too.
Short break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
By the way, that includes student visas.
All, everything, everything.
Because they got little pockets and little all of it.
Because you got to rethink the whole thing through.
And Rosemary Jenks is 100% correct.
We've never really gone out and asked the American people.
This has all been done behind the scenes, starting with the Kennedy, with the bill in 1964, the immigration bill, and then all of it.
It's never really been explained to people.
This is why you've got the mess you have today.
And you need dramatic action.
10-year more tournament, all of it, including the students.
I got an idea.
Why don't we take American students?
How about that?
I think there's 350,000 American students out there.
And if Lutnick's, oh, well, you're going to lose the bottom 10% of the colleges, then you lose the bottom 10% of the colleges, dude.
We're going to give up our country for the bottom 10% of the colleges, which is another racket.
That's what you're going to do?
I don't think so.
I don't think the American people support that.
The whole thing is a racket.
Rosemary Jenks, talking about a racket, now they're all over HB1B visas.
You got these people stranded in India.
Walk us through what's going on there.
It's a perfect time to end the program so they don't have to pay airfare back and then go back again.
Why don't we just end it now and cause and stop all this angst that people have, ma'am?
rosemary jenks
Yeah, that's it.
You're absolutely right.
It's funny because the Trump administration implemented a new rule that says that people who want visas to the United States, and these are temporary visas, they don't give you any right to come here, that they will be vetted more carefully, which of course we should be doing.
So we're going to be vetting their social media.
So that takes extra time.
So the State Department officials who do this, the consular officials, have to reschedule interviews because each one takes more time so that they can make sure that the people coming into our country are not coming here to kill us or steal from us or, you know, otherwise mess with our system.
Perfectly reasonable and rational.
So there is a larger group of Indians, of course, because Indians are 70% of H-1Bs, who are actually stuck in India, stranded in their home country.
And we're supposed to all feel sorry for them because it's taking longer for them to get their visas approved.
Nobody's feeling sorry for them here because, first of all, some of their employers apparently are deciding that it's too much trouble to wait for them and keep the job open for them and are potentially hiring Americans to do those jobs, we would hope.
But yes, it's across the board with all visas.
So whether it's student visas or H-1Bs or L's or whatever, we are taking more time as a nation to vet them.
And so there are backlogs.
And that's going to be a good thing for America.
And you're absolutely right that this would be a perfect time to just say, okay, we're done.
No more.
Let's put Americans first.
Let's put Americans into our schools.
Let's put Americans into our jobs.
Let's make American prosperity our number one goal.
steve bannon
Have you found Rosemary Jenks in all your work on this one of the millions that we let in here on these H-1Bs where there's a billet that has either an educational or requirement, job requirement that can't be filled by an American citizen, ma'am?
rosemary jenks
Absolutely not.
Americans can and have done all of this work.
Americans invented computer chips and automobiles and airplanes and everything else.
We invented it.
We can certainly do the work.
If an American needs a couple of years of training, let's train the American.
That's absolutely no reason to give that job permanently to someone from outside the country.
It's ridiculous.
steve bannon
You have 12 million, I believe it's 12 million STEM.
And remember, the STEM are the kids that did it right, right?
When guys like myself were goofing off, they were not, okay?
They're the STEM, the people that went through these STEM programs and got the engineering degrees and got the computer science degrees.
Those are the ones that we told, hey, if you do it right, if you work hard, you put your nose to the grindstone from the time you're in elementary school and do it right, there's going to be a reward for you on the other end, a good, high-paying job, a value-added job.
I think we have 12 million of the best of the best that are not employed because we're hiring foreigners that are not as skilled, not as dedicated.
We're hiring them because they're indentured servants.
And the oligarchs in Silicon Valley understand this.
Why do you think Elon Musk works so hard for H-1B visas?
You're hiring indentured servants.
You have higher margins, right?
Higher margins means a higher stock price.
Higher stock price means more wealth.
Not for you, not for the American citizen, for them.
The math here is not particularly complicated.
That's why what we have to do to rectify this can't be complicated.
Let's do what General Sherman said.
General Sherman said, a simple plan, aggressively executed, always beats a complicated plan that's kind of passively put together.
We need a simple plan that's aggressively executed.
How about this?
Let's do an homage to William Tecumseh Sherman and say shut down H-1Bs totally and completely and a 10-year moratorium on all visas for folks coming here to live.
Refugees, immigrants, migrants, visa holders, students, all of it.
10 years.
Sort it out.
Let the American people go through the details and see what the American people, what the American people support.
What you're going to see is a wave of prosperity for American citizens.
A wave of prosperity for American citizens because they shouldn't have to compete with foreign labor in their own country that generations of their family have helped build and generations of their family members have helped defend it on foreign battlefields in defense of this country.
Their basic right is to make sure that their citizenship is put at a premium.
Look at what's happened in Minnesota.
They're laughing in your face.
We've imported, the radical Democrats have imported a criminal syndicate to basically get in and vote and perpetuate their neo-Marxist jihadish rule.
That's the way this system works.
It's not chaos.
It didn't just kind of happen.
unidentified
It's very, very, very well thought through.
steve bannon
And now they're mocking you.
Rosemary, where do people go to join up your, we got about 30 seconds.
Where do people go to join up your group?
rosemary jenks
Iapaction.com.
Iapaction.com.
And you will find our congressional ranking system at iapaction.com.
We really need your support.
If you are able, please help us to keep this fight going and keep getting more members of Congress to understand the dire straits we are in and how to fix it.
steve bannon
It's a fight we have to win, a fight that matters.
What we specialize here in the world.
Rosemary drinks, thank you so much.
Short commercial break.
Hour two is going to be more on fire than hour one.
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