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Dec. 22, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 5015: Zelensky Must Go; PReview Of The Charlie Kirk Assassin Trial
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james rickards
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steve bannon
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In this moment, in this anthem, is living.
We sing for all the people who never made it home.
Through us, their stories will be told.
We stand as one united in this fight for liberty.
Justice for all voices ring free.
Peace, Charlie, can't believe they took your life.
Have to keep free speech alive.
Hey, rest in peace, choreographies that you fight.
To the cops and military that been fighting day and night.
So we could have liberty and our God-given rights.
To all the mothers and fathers that's just trying to protect their child.
Hey, freedom worth dying for.
Dreams worth fighting for.
God got us.
I promise.
That's the reason I smile.
Protesting with our voice and our presence and our words.
We ain't killing people for disagreeing.
And that's absurd.
We ain't burning down cities because we pray to the people.
victor willis
We sing for all the people who never made it home.
unidentified
Through us, their stories will be told.
We stand as one.
steve bannon
On the 22nd of December, the year of our Lord 2025.
Think about it for a second.
That was January 6th of 2001.
And today, that's the anthem of the free magnificent song made by LJ, the producer of Real America Music, a new initiative of Real America's Voice.
The song got to number one over the weekend.
You got to go to iTunes and download it.
We want to make this number one.
The album's going to premiere, I think, on the 6th of January, on January 6th.
There's a documentary, I think, coming out on the 5th.
We'll have more details as we firm that up.
Just an incredible song, incredible effort.
That's the J6 prison choir.
As I said in the Georgia situation, if you had told me back in, you know, we had Ben Berkwom out there that day.
Remember that?
Ben Berqual was out right outside the Capitol and was reporting on the five o'clock show.
If you said that five years from now, you'd be putting out an album from the thousand prisoners they put in to prison.
Oh, by the way, Bannon, you and Navarro would go to prison also.
And President Trump would be, you know, they'd be throwing out all this funny stuff at him to send him away for 300 years.
I go, no, that's impossible.
It's the United States of America.
But it's not the United States of America.
It's not the United States that was bequeathed to us.
It's a collection of globalists and progressives and jihadists, all of it.
A witch's brew trying to steal this country.
And you're fighting back from the heroes in Georgia to the folks of the young people, particularly out at Amfest over the weekend.
Just extraordinary.
But you got to structurally see, in a system where the wealthy control it and are making more money than ever, the concentration of wealth is greater than ever.
They're just not going to sit there and go, oh, what a lovely idea.
The War Room and Bannon and Malpaz and Cortez and all these guys got all these great, they're thinking deep thoughts.
Why don't we just toss the keys to you guys and you restructure it and make sure that people work hard, they get a little piece of the action or what I call it.
It doesn't work like that.
You're going to have to take it away.
We're doing it politically, but you're going to have to take it away.
And once you're in office, you're going to have to hammer every day.
And you can't kowtow these people.
You cannot count out to them because it's just going to continue on.
And the country can't go on like it's going on.
It's not a sustainable.
If they had a business model that worked, maybe it would be a tougher argument, but they don't have a business model that works.
This is unsustainable.
And all they do, because the dollar is the prime reserve currency, is continue to print it, baby.
Continue to print it.
And that's why it's going to have to stop.
And the only people to stop it would be you.
The same type of patriotic fervor we've seen down the state of Georgia where five years later, this is what I'm saying.
The only fact you got to know today, particularly folks that have been on this show from the beginning, and particularly after the steal of 2020 when so many new people came into the show, that think about it.
If we had said when they were counting votes on December 15th of 2020, the electoral, you know, the electoral college men in all the state capitals, if I had told you, oh, by the way, folks, they're at the state capitals on the 15th, I think the 15th of December in the year of our Lord 2020.
Five freaking years this week, five years from like this week, we're going to be leading the show.
We're going to be starting War Room in Georgia, talking about folks that are fighting about the stone election.
And they got the evidence on the machines.
They got the evidence in Fulton County, got 350,000 ballots or 500,000 ballots.
We're going to kick off that week, Christmas week.
We're going to kick off in Georgia.
Think about that for a second.
And if it wasn't for the Patriots in Georgia, it'd all be just glossed over.
Because the Republican established down there is just as guilty as the progress.
Fonnie Willis is a creation of the Republican establishment in the great state of Georgia.
Her allowed to do that and to bankrupt Rudy Giuliani and to go after Trump and try to put Trump in prison, have Trump a mugshot, a mugshot that won the election, Kemp.
You guys to allow that is a disgrace.
A total and complete disgrace.
You run on campaigns.
Oh, we're going to do this.
We're going to do this.
It's all crap.
It's all just to feather your nest and the business interest to keep you in charge.
And like the American people don't have enough to fight with these globalists, and we're going to get to the OECD and everything that's happening in Europe.
All the globalists, the party of Davos, they got to fight the people that are supposed to be on their side of the football.
And you're not.
You're a bunch of wolves in sheep's clothing.
Steve Cortez, let me play the OECD part and then I'll bring Cortez in.
Let's play it.
steve cortes
Patriots, this New Year's Eve, the city of lights will go dark.
Why?
Well, because this city of Paris canceled its famous massive celebration on the Champs-Élysées, a tradition that has endured for many decades, now brought to a halt because of security and terror concerns.
Now, this worry isn't just paranoia.
Last year's celebrations were indeed marred by a wave of violence.
1,000 cars were torched and there were hundreds of arrests.
The culprits, overwhelmingly young Muslim men of African descent.
But France and other sophisticated nations, they insist on suicidal empathy, a mass national surrender of culture and sovereignty.
Will we Americans learn from this negative lesson?
Will we insist on restrained, lawful immigration only and demand assimilation?
Our civilization depends on it.
steve bannon
So, Steve, you're over there because they got these globalists and they invited you as a nationalist to go over explaining the economics to them.
And in the middle of it, our betters, our betters who are lecturing the United States all the time and the party of Davos, The best Christmas city in the world, Paris, the city of lights, is canceling so much because of what the globalists have allowed to happen.
In fact, not just allowed to happen, they drove what happened, sir.
unidentified
Right.
steve cortes
They fully incentivized it.
So, no, that paradox, that irony was not lost on me.
Certainly, that beautiful backdrop that I was there is the Chateau Muit, which was a French royal palace later owned by the Rothschild family.
It is now the headquarters of the OECD, which is an organization most Americans probably haven't heard of, but unfortunately has a lot of effect on their life.
In many ways, that is the brain trust, the epicenter of the quote, rules-based international order, particularly when it comes to the economy that has been fantastic for credentialed transnational elites, but has been horrific for working-class people all over the world, including here in the United States.
Now, credit to them for at least inviting me and giving me a listen, albeit speaking to a very skeptical audience.
I delivered my undiluted populist nationalist pro-America first message to them.
Also, saluting them, by the way, though, telling them, listen, we admire and love Europe.
It is the source of Western civilization, which we inherited from them.
And we believe now we are the culmination of Western civilization.
But outside, you know, during that conference and outside of that magnificent chateau, as these elites congratulated each other and talked about decarbonization and sustainability and welcoming mass migration, the city of Paris canceled its grand New Year's Eve celebration, which typically has about a million people gather.
It's been going on now for 60 straight years, but the city of lights is going to go dark this New Year's Eve over security concerns.
And by the way, probably very valid security concerns, but that's what happens when you invite a mass migration from the third world.
But at the same time, okay, while their continent is imploding, and I told them this as well, by the way, we have similar problems here, okay?
Of course we do.
However, we have decided to grapple with them.
We've decided to fix them and to reverse these policies, whereas Europe is just plunging even harder and accelerating and putting the foot on the gas even harder into these multilateral, multicultural traps that they have set for themselves.
And at the same time, concurrently, they want to continue to view the United States as this grand sugar daddy, believing that we should fund all of these misadventures and that we should protect the entirety of Western Europe, which does function as a protectorate and has, let's face it, for 80 years.
And I think the news that is being delivered to them by the Trump administration, particularly in that magnificent national security strategy document, which has heads blowing up all over Davos, Brussels, Paris, et cetera, is that we are done.
We are done funding and operating a protectorate for the wealthy nations of Western Europe.
Russia is not our existential ally.
It doesn't mean it's our friend, but it doesn't have to be our foe.
Our existential threat is China.
And when it comes to allies, to dependable allies, we see far more opportunity in our own hemisphere.
So we are pivoting back here to the United States, to the Americas.
And when it comes to global alliances and to friendly overseas nations, we see far more opportunity in our own hemisphere, a Monroe Doctrine 2.0 that can unite, carry forward Western civilization, and be the bulwark of defense against the real threat, which is not across the Atlantic, rather, it's across the Pacific in Beijing.
steve bannon
The Wall Street Journal's reporting today, the president's going to have a press conference at our announcement at 4:30 p.m. today in Mar-Lago.
We're going to cover it live on Real America's Voice in the Worm.
And we know now it's going to be the President and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.
It's going to be joined now by Marco Rubio.
We are told by the great comms team over the White House, they tell our own Brian Glenn, that it's going to be about shipbuilding.
But it may be, you know, they may throw a few more things out there.
I think it just sounds odd they would do all this for shipbuilding, although I'm a huge believer in rebuilding the United States Navy.
Steve, the Wall Street Journal is reporting that Cuba is imploding because we're stopping the tankers from going from Venezuela to Cuba.
Something I've advocated coming out of the Gulf.
If you want to take down the Mulas, cut off the oil coming out of the Gulf from Iran to the CCP, and it would also put a big dent into the CCP.
Your thoughts on Latin America?
You know, the national security strategy had the Monroe Doctrine 2.0, but then they threw in the Trump corollary, which is full-spectrum dominance with allies in Latin America.
Do you think we're going to war anytime soon with that carrier strike group we got down off and the amphibious ready group we got off of Venezuela, sir?
steve cortes
Well, I don't believe we're going to have to, thankfully, but I think interdicting these illegal ships is very, very smart policy, right?
Starve the Maduro beast, which makes sense strategically.
And by the way, those of us who are very anti-intervention generally, I think we do need to view our own neighborhood.
We need to view the Americas very differently, as was outlined in that fantastic NSS strategy memo.
So in the Americas, and largely because, by the way, connecting this to immigration, in the Americas, if we do not have stability and order, if we do not have strong alliances, one of the consequences is mass migration pressure into our country, which, of course, none of us want.
We're trying very hard and diligently and succeeding, thankfully, at reversing that awful trend.
But thankfully, also, the trends are good.
You know, on the positive side, in terms of electoral wins, the Chile win was huge.
Millay is doing a great job in Argentina.
Venezuela is under pressure.
Cuba is under pressure.
I foresee a pan-American alliance ahead where this is a zone of prosperity that believes in Western civilization.
We can forget about the old world.
Regardless of what they do, we will form the new counter to the existential threat to us, which lies across the Pacific in the CCP.
steve bannon
Steve, where do people go?
Get all these little videos you're putting up, all the investigative documentaries in your writings, where do they go?
steve cortes
Yes, please go to CortezInvestigates.com, and I have a brand new article up on the OECD and what I learned in Paris, CortezInvestigates.com.
steve bannon
One thing you learned is that because of the unlimited migration of Muslims, you're not going to have New Year's Eve.
And quite frankly, the city lights a little dimmed over Christmas.
Outrageous.
Thank you, Steve.
Thanks for sticking around.
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Thank you.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Jim Rickards joins us now.
So, Jim, people are worried about the economy over here.
And, you know, President Trump's plan is starting to kick in with the capital expenditures and the big, beautiful bill, plus the tariffs.
Of course, as a forcing function, the Supreme Court has not ruled yet, although they ruled mainly in President Trump's favor.
I think 22 out of 25 right now.
The national security strategy is out.
A couple weeks after it's out, you're supposed to have the military part.
I think Pete's going to release that either this week or next before the end of the year.
But let's talk about that strategy document.
Europe, on a 33-page document, Europe appears on page 29 almost as an afterthought.
The biggest parts of it are the hemispheric defense, situation with Russia, situation with the Chinese Communist Party.
Give us your thoughts about this.
james rickards
Sure.
You're right.
Europe appears on page 29 or 30 at the back of the document.
What's most interesting or as interesting is the Western Hemisphere appears on page one or very early in the document, which says something important itself.
Yeah, the critique, one of the things I found about, Steve, first of all, it was shorter than most national security documents.
These things come out, national security strategy.
They're dictated by statute, the Goldwater and Nichols Act.
Every president has one.
They're not every year.
It's kind of every four years, but some are more frequent than that.
But it's a very big deal because it has a multi-year impact in terms of the policy.
This was shorter than most of them.
It was written in plain English.
They avoided all the jargon.
A lot of them are loaded up with military terms and diplomatic terms of phrase, et cetera.
It was plain English.
But the brevity of it and the plainness of it should not be mistaken for simplicity and platitudes.
This was a profound document, one of the most important in the series, maybe since the end of the Cold War.
And Europe, it talked very little about the fact that Europe was kind of relegated to the back row says something about Europe.
It shows how kind of unimportant it is.
Germany's committing economic suicide.
France is not far behind.
They keep bragging about putting boots on the ground in Ukraine.
Europe, all of NATO could not, outside the United States, could not muster three divisions.
I mean, the Russians have 15 divisions on the front line.
They have another 15 divisions kind of waiting to come in as and when needed.
Europe, France, Germany, UK, if they could muster three divisions, that would be a very big deal.
Probably two of them would come from the UK.
So they are vassals.
One of your guests referred to them as a protectorate.
That's about right.
The Western Hemisphere part I found fascinating.
It was one of my areas of study, and particularly the Trump corollary.
That's not a throwaway phrase.
The Monroe Doctrine came out in 1823.
And President Monroe, but that was at the time when Latin America was in revolution.
Bolivar and San Martin and Bernardo O'Higgins.
And President Monroe saw that.
And whenever you have a power vacuum, the danger is that some other power is going to come in.
So he said to the Europeans, keep out.
No more colonization.
Maybe you can keep what you have, but no more.
And that was the Monroe Doctrine.
It was very kind of non-interventionist, but aimed at Europe.
Come forward to 1904.
You had the Roosevelt corollary, Teddy Roosevelt, and he took it a step further.
He said, well, not only does Europe have to stay out, but the United States can intervene to create stability or basically preserve or restore stability.
Now, what is the Trump corollary to the Monroe Doctrine after the Roosevelt corollary?
What Trump is saying is that colonization in the 21st century doesn't mean you come in, you run up your flag, and you take over the country and exploit the resources.
You can have contractual colonization, loan colonization.
There are a lot of ways to own the resources and control the country other than invading it and running up the flag.
And that's what the Trump corollary is aimed at.
Said, no, China, you can't monopolize Venezuelan oil.
Russia, you cannot indefinitely prop up Cuba.
That we're going to view those, as I said, contractual loan and other arrangements as a form of 21st century colonization.
You cannot disrupt supply chains, et cetera.
So basically, Trump is laying claim to the natural resources.
It doesn't mean we take them, but it means we're not going to let China take them either.
unidentified
That's a very big deal.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
I want to bring in Alan Dos Santos, one of Bolsonaro's lieutenants.
Alan, you heard Jim Rickards.
We talked about it with Steve Cortez.
We're going to talk about it all in the evening show.
Peter Navarro is going to join us.
Our most significant, you know, traditionally, Brazil is the key nation in Latin America.
The relationship between President Trump and Bolsonaro couldn't be stronger.
The Bolsonaro movement's really aligned with MAGA.
You got Jim Rickards talking about the National Security Memo, strategy memo, which talks about the primacy of Latin America and hemispheric defense in American eyes.
Yet now we've got Lula looks like ascendant in Bolsonaro in prison.
Can you make that make sense for us, sir?
allan dos santos
So what is happening with Bolsonaro right now, it's not justice.
Okay.
It's a deliberate act of political cruelty.
Bolsonaro is not being treated as a defendant under rule of law, Steve.
And first of all, thank you so much for having me a chance to explain that to the world.
Bolsonaro is being just treated as a symbol to be crushed, destroyed physically and morally.
That's why Lula da Silva is doing that against Bolsonaro.
Of course, some media outlet is going to say it's not Lula, it's the judiciary which is doing this.
But the point is, and the problem, Lula appointed most of the Supreme Court justice so far.
And the judge, which was delisted by the Magnitsky Act in the United States, unfortunately, Demarais, he is a cruel person.
He wants to see Bolsonaro dying.
Even his surgery needed to be with his sign and his authorization, which is ridiculous.
Even drug cartels leaders in Brazilian prison doesn't need to have this kind of authority to have a surgery.
steve bannon
I'm going to go back to the personal, and we'll get into that maybe later because it's horrible.
It's horrific what's happening to President Bolsonaro.
But strategically, Brazil is the key that picks the lock in Latin America, in South America, correct?
I mean, it's the biggest, it's got some of the greatest resources, got the Amazon, the lungs of the world.
Whereas we're bailing out Malay, we're off the coast with the biggest armada we've had since, I think, bigger than the Gulf War.
You almost have to go back to Vietnam.
Where does Brazil fit into all this?
Because Bolsonaro as an individual is very important.
It's horrible what's happening, and they're trying to take him out of the presidential election.
But there's something going on there strategically.
How important, if we're going to have a hemispheric defense and a Trump corollary that essentially says we're going to, with our partners, be dominant in Latin America, and we're not going to let the CCP in, the CCP is Lula's partner.
The CCP is all over, all over Brazil right now, sir.
allan dos santos
So the CCP is doing a job together with Lula for a long time already.
When Lula tried to reach out to the CCP back in 2002 to support his campaign for his first term in 2003, he was along the CCP all over during all this time.
And Juma Rousseff, who was appointed by Lula to be the next president after he stayed for eight years in Brazil, also connected Brazil with China.
China is the first biggest ally, economic ally in Brazil, but it was the United States previously.
So China just got the first rank as a trade ally with Brazil because of the Workers' Party, because of the socialists, because of the communists in Brazil.
So they want Bolsonaro out to keep this job.
So I really hope with this new memo that came out in November from the White House, the National Security Act, I hope that can put Bolsonaro out of jail.
And I hope that Lula will also be recognized as a criminal because he is behind Maduro.
He is behind the Sao Paulos Forum.
He is behind of the drug cartel, even the terrorists in Brazil.
Lula is being praised by Hamas, Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda all the time.
And he never condemned these terrorists as a terrorist.
He even refused to recognize the PCC, which is the drug cartel in Brazil, as a terrorist group.
steve bannon
Real quickly, I got about a minute on JBS.
I know that there's going to be a big government crackdown, I think, on JBS, the United States government.
Navarre and these guys are working on it non-stop.
Just give us a minute because we've got to go to break.
Give us a minute on JBS, this beef distributor, where this fits into the Luluk cartel.
allan dos santos
So JBS is a government-backed company that grew up with a bank financial supply.
And it was already condemned.
This company, JBS, was already condemned in Brazil for corruption.
So the penalties are being erased by the Supreme Court justice thoughtfully, but they are still criminals and they are still guilty.
But they are behind of Lula da Silva strategy between the United States and Brazil.
But the problem is they are one of the largest big supply in America.
There are four companies that controls the beef in America, and two of them are Brazilians.
And the two of them already corrupted in Brazil with well-documented proof.
It's not opinion.
It's not allegations.
It's facts.
So we need to go after them through the DOJ to get Brazil right and back.
steve bannon
I think that started.
Alan, hang on for one second.
Jim Rickards is with us.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
Return to the Worm in a moment.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, this is why we got Rickards as a contributor, and this is why we make available strategic intelligence.
Folks, what have we said from the beginning?
And we're always trying to put you ahead of the curve because you're the vanguard of the MAGA movement, which is a revolutionary movement that has changed the direction of the world, not just simply this country.
So Ricker, and Rickard is one of the biggest brains out there on these topics.
So Rickards, we've had Alan Das Santos talk to us about Brazil.
It's kind of interesting.
We got the National Security Strategy memo out, and we got a carrier strike group off of Venezuela, an amphib ready group.
We got 14,000 fleet marines and sailors.
I don't know, just kind of hanging out, right?
Now we're stopping, now we're stopping tankers and putting a naval blockade in.
Cuba's going bankrupt.
In the news, and so this is an issue like, okay, well, what are we doing here with Brazil?
Because Bolsonaro and the Bolsonar movement are our guys, right?
That's MAGA in Brazil.
And maybe even more deeply religious than MAGA, because it's really a movement that's driven even more, maybe so than MAGA by evangelical Christians and traditional Catholics.
But you've gotten the news today over the last 24 hours.
The war at sea in the Ukraine as Russia pounds Odessa in the harbor in Odessa.
And I've said from day one, that's their objective.
You've got the Ukrainians taking out tankers in the Med.
You've had a Russian general get blown up, I think, in Moscow.
The kinetic part of this, and we said this for years, this thing's going to go and the kinetic part is going to spin out of control unless the Europeans get their act together and we can actually sit down and make peace here.
That's a reasonable peace.
But this thing, you know, they got overruled by Poland and Hungary about stealing the $300 billion of the Russian people's assets because Putin said, if you steal our assets, that's an act of war.
And you guys are going to answer for it.
Put it all in perspective for us, Jim Rickards.
james rickards
Well, that's right about the assets.
And that's the big deal.
Russia said it's an act of war.
You're right about that, Steve.
But they also said we're going to sue Euroclear.
And they got 19 jurisdictions around the world.
It doesn't have to be in Belgium.
It could be in Dubai or Hong Kong.
Euroclear has $47 trillion of assets in custody or under management.
Now, you sue them.
You put a cloud on all those assets.
You're not going to take $47 trillion, but you'll take what you want if you get a favorable court ruling.
So you've just cast a cloud on one of the largest custodians in the world for what?
For the $300 billion you want to steal from Russia?
So they did back off on that, but that's been hanging out there for a couple of years.
Now, as far as Ukraine is concerned, they can't win on the battlefield.
They're losing badly, but they're pretty ruthless and violent, these special operations.
So they assassinated a Russian general in Moscow.
Not the first one, by the way.
There have been three or four assassinations of that type.
And it's one thing to sink a vessel in the Black Sea, but the Ukrainians attacked a Russian ghost fleet tanker, they say, in the Mediterranean Sea.
So it's expanding geographically, and it's really all Ukraine can do.
But what strikes me, Steve, is that here you have Witkov, who thinks is doing a very good job, a very tough job.
He's meeting with Dmitriev and Yumarov in Miami and with the Ukrainian delegation on the side trying to get a peace deal.
And on the same day, they're in Miami talking peace.
The Ukrainians are assassinating Russians in Moscow.
Now, that's not, you know, okay, it's a war.
Okay, so you do things like that.
But how is that moving towards peace?
How is that achieving your goals?
Well, the answer is it isn't.
Zelensky doesn't want peace.
He wants continued war.
So do the Brits.
So do the Germans and the French.
The only way we're going to get out of this, I mean, Witkoff is taking a very broad view.
He's saying, look, let's look past the war.
Let's assume we get this.
We've got a peace treaty.
They're still negotiating that.
The natural resource deals in Russia, the investment opportunities in Russia, I tell readers in my publications, Russia will be one of the best investment opportunities in the 21st century.
Not today.
It's illegal for Americans to invest in Russia, but when we get past this, it will be.
And Witkoff is looking at those opportunities, but he's still going to end the war.
And the West, we're very good at negotiating with ourselves, but we're not so good at negotiating with Russia.
So, yeah, it's the art of the deal.
You go back and forth, you give a little, you get a little.
But Russia's demands or goals have not changed since 2021.
Before the war, they have not changed.
No NATO, denazification, demilitarization, basically a neutral status.
One of the things that the Europeans put on the table is that Ukraine should have an army of 800,000 men and women, I guess, but 800,000 troops in the Ukrainian army.
You kidding me?
That's bigger than any army in Europe, any army in Europe.
Russia is thinking, maybe you can have 50,000 like a police force or National Guard type of thing.
Maybe.
So this is not anywhere close to resolution.
Again, I give a lot of credit to WICOP.
They're looking past the war, but they haven't figured out how to end the war.
steve bannon
But this is my point.
Okay, but if it's, and I realize we're, but if it's not closer to resolution and they're shelling the port in Odessa, the Ukrainians are giving as good as they get, and they're getting crushed, but they're blowing up tankers in the Mediterranean, and now they're assassinating generals in Moscow.
This thing is going to only spin more and more out of control, correct?
On the battlefield, which President Trump is his highest priority to stop the killing, sir.
james rickards
Well, that's right, Steve.
And then you say, when you see something like that, and it kind of doesn't make sense, you have to say, well, what's really going on here?
From the start, going back to New Land and the other warmongers and Lindsey Graham and all the rest, this has never really been about Ukraine.
This has been about getting rid of Putin, deposing Putin, causing some kind of uprising in Russia, and getting back to the good old 90s when America could loot the place and tell them what to do.
And you had Yeltsin, he was a serious alcoholic drinking vodka all day long.
They want to get back to that.
But they can't.
Actually, Putin's more popular than ever.
Putin will go down.
Here's the irony, Steve.
Putin will go down as the greatest Russian leader since Catherine the Great.
Meanwhile, U.S. so-called foreign policy experts who don't know anything about Russia, I don't know where the knowledge went, but it's certainly gone.
Ukraine has always been about deposing Putin.
As long as that's your goal, you're not going to give up in Ukraine.
A million dead Ukrainians is not going to stop you.
And Zelensky is an utterly corrupt figure who probably, if he did try to make a peace deal, would be killed by his own neo-Nazi associates.
So there's no good way.
You got to get rid of Zelensky.
That's step point.
Get rid of Zelensky, whatever it takes.
Let him move to Spain, get someone else in there, and then maybe make a deal.
But until you get rid of him, there's not going to be a breakthrough.
And the war, you're right, it's going to get worse.
steve bannon
Make the Brazil part of our Latin America.
I mean, President Trump and the team are the corollary to the Monroe Doctrine 2.0, hemispheric defense.
I mean, they're all in, but the Brazil thing just doesn't make sense.
Make it make sense to me.
james rickards
Well, we've been talking about kinetic action, assassination in Ukraine and elsewhere, but we are, and the kinetic still plays a large role, of course.
But we're living in the age of financial warfare.
21st century is the age of financial warfare.
So are we going to invade Brazil?
No, not even close.
But there's a lot we can do with oil, with, you know, when Trump put tariffs on China, going back to 2018 in his first term, what did China do?
They stopped buying U.S. soybeans and they moved all their, they started buying the soybeans from Brazil.
It was a huge windfall for Brazil.
And we sold our soybeans to the Netherlands.
So, you know, the global supply chains, they find their way.
But we could basically put pressure on China in terms of get China to buy U.S. soybeans again.
And that would put more pressure on Brazil.
You can put financial pressure.
By the way, see, one solution to this issue.
steve bannon
But why are we treating it?
Is rare earth so important, and particularly the heavy rare earths I think they have?
Is that so important that we would treat Lula like an ally and abandon Bolsonaro?
james rickards
Not at all.
This is my point.
We should put more pressure, more pressure on Brazil to do the right thing.
And basically, whatever Bolsonaro's network is, and it's quite large, whether it's media scrutiny, financial warfare, et cetera, do whatever it takes to promote Bolsonaro and promote real democracy, and the points you raise, absolutely.
But one of the ways to put pressure on Lula and also put pressure on basically solve the affordability crisis.
That's a whole separate issue.
That's a domestic policy issue.
But I've said this before on your show: get oil down to $25, $30 a barrel.
And you made the point.
You said, well, that'll hurt Saudi Arabia.
And you're right about that.
But if you want to win elections in the United States, you have to decide, am I on the side of everyday Americans or am I on the side of Saudi Arabia?
I mean, $25 oil hurts Saudi Arabia, but they're not a hardship case.
steve bannon
What has to be about the Saudi Arabia?
According to Jim Rickards, what do we need to do to get oil down to 25 bucks a barrel?
Which would be a third of the cost of silver, right, roughly.
How does Jim Rickards recommend that?
james rickards
Well, start dumping this Venezuelan order with season these tankers.
Okay, dump it at fire sale prices, drill baby drill, open up federal lands for leasing, Alaska, Gulf of America, et cetera.
Just flood the market with oil.
And the U.S. can do that, by the way.
We are the number one producer of oil in the world, more than Saudi Arabia and Russia.
And by the way, if you make peace in Ukraine, and one of the ways to do that is to get the price of oil down.
And Putin's at the bargaining table, but if you really want to get his attention, that's another way to do it.
And what people don't understand, Steve, is they think, okay, getting oil prices down lowers the price of gas at the pump.
It does.
And that's a big deal.
And that's what Americans see.
But it lowers the price of everything because energy is the biggest input, you know, transportation, manufacturing, plastics, you name it.
They all have energy inputs.
And a lot of that comes aside gasoline, it's diesel.
But you get the price of oil down.
You're going to solve your affordability problem.
You're going to solve your inflation problem.
You're going to get Putin to do a deal and you'll put pressure on Brazil.
It just does 10 things at once.
But the U.S. can do it with just pumping more oil and natural gas.
steve bannon
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Strategic intelligence, it's an amazing publication.
Where do people go?
What are they going to find when they read it every month?
Why should they read it every month?
And where do they go get it?
And if they want to, give it as a gift.
Where?
james rickards
Yeah.
Thank you, Steve.
We have a landing page.
It's rickardswarroom.com, rickardswarroom.com.
You go there, you can subscribe to Strategic Intelligence.
That's a flagship publication.
It comes out once a month.
We put a lot into it.
Steve, if you ask me to say what it does, we are way ahead of the curve.
Our predictive analytics, I don't claim to be smarter than anybody else, but we do have better models, better ways of doing this.
And our track record speaks for itself from Brexit, Trump, 2016, 312 electoral votes in 2024.
We got them all right, and we continue to do that.
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So yeah, if you want to not just read the news, recirculate it, but actually stay way ahead of the curve and we have a track record to prove it, strategic intelligence at rickardswarroom.com.
steve bannon
No, you're absolutely amazing.
The thing is, and this is why it's read by what I call the C-Suites, the chairman of the boards and CEOs.
If you want to read what they're reading, get strategic intelligence.
Go to Rickards Worm, get a landing page based upon predictive analytics.
And you might think about giving it as a gift, particularly somebody that's close to you, maybe a younger person.
Jim Rickards, social media, where else can people track you down, sir?
You're one of our best contributors.
james rickards
Thanks on Exum at RealJim Rickards at RealJim Rickards.
And I'll put links to these interviews and a lot else, a lot of media.
By the way, I'm on a world tour, Steve, basically teaching MAGA around the world.
I've been to Slovenia.
I was in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago, heading to the Cayman Islands, but I'm on a MAGANOMIX World Tour.
That may be my next book.
But you can find all that on XADWEGIM Records.
steve bannon
I'd love that Meganomics World Tour.
Make sure it sticks down the Cayman Islands, okay?
Make sure they understand where we're coming from.
Jim Rickards, love your brother.
Merry Christmas.
james rickards
Merry Christmas.
steve bannon
Merry Christmas, Jim Rickards.
Alan, where do people go to get you on this fight for the freedom of President Bolsonaro and the Bolsonaro movement, which is bigger than ever?
Where do people go, sir?
allan dos santos
AlanDosSantos.net is an English version of it.
We are on YouTube, Axe, Getter.
They can find the timeline media that we built from the ashes here in America.
They destroyed my company in Brazil and we rebuilt everything here with La Combi and Max Cardozo with me in Orlando.
And thank you so much, Steve.
We need to treat Lula as we are dealing with Maduro.
Please.
steve bannon
He's a Marxist.
Exactly.
Exactly.
We'll have more of that this next week.
Merry Christmas, sir.
Short break.
allan dos santos
Let's take down the CCP.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
So I want to make sure we get this in, and we're pressed for time, but I got one of the best, Sheila Mathers, who explained this to us.
Sheila, so I don't, this Reiner thing is so horrific.
And the more information you find out about it, it's horrific.
You've been, I think, the smartest person to walk us through all these different disparate actions have been taken, you know, school shootings, all of it.
And you tie it back to we're not getting to the heart of the problem of what they're doing to these young children and particularly the drugs they're giving them.
And these kids have mental issues.
You know, maybe that's exacerbated by the psychiatrist and the drugs.
They're also on drugs and addicts.
This Reiner thing is really dark.
Give me a minute or two on where your reporting and analysis is going on this man.
sheila matthews
Sure.
So we have now the court sealing the documents, the medical documents of Nicholas Reiner.
And this is troubling because he has a long history of psychiatric treatment.
We discussed with you that he shot up Wellbutrin, which is being given to children in state care.
So this is going to, this upcoming trial is going to be like a Super Bowl of psychiatric saturation in our country.
So that's like really critical for people to understand because the defense attorney is looking to get him to get life in a psychiatric industry hospital.
So he's not going to be doing the Zoloft defense, which we, You know, looked at over the years with the Pittman case of the 14-year-old that killed his grandparents.
So, this particular attorney is going to be defending the psychiatric industry and the drugs.
So, this is going to be a saturation for people to look at.
Why it's important over the whole scheme of all the other shootings that we're looking at at Brown University is the fact that the FBI behavioral analysis unit,
and we have an article out on joehoff.com that I really think people should see is the fact that the pharmaceutical companies have been training the FBI unit to protect these drugs and this psychiatric industry.
So, basically, they're telling us a story that a homeless man and a Reddit post solved this Brown University thing.
So, it's garbage.
Okay, this is just garbage.
So, that's why we have to get down to the failure in the Janet Reno playbook of that behavioral health unit in the FBI.
So, that's why it's very important to understand behavioral health, the psychiatric industry, and the drug industry, and how our government is in bed with them, defending them every time.
Like this kid didn't get better.
He had his parents paid $70,000 a month.
That's a million dollars a year, and he slashed his parents' throats.
Okay, so we're in big trouble because what's happening at Brown University is a national security issue, and we could get deeper into that.
steve bannon
You know, I want to get what I want to do is have everybody first, and I'll get your back on.
Hairberry, go to Joe Hoff if Grace and Moe can push it out or your piece right now.
And the reason it's so important is that this guy realizes if he gets them off from the death penalty and going to a federal, going to a state prison or federal prison, he gets to a psychiatric hospital, he could be let go years to come, correct?
After they deem him to be better?
sheila matthews
Yes, that happened with the assassination on Reagan, I believe he was let out after all these years, you know.
And we are very focused on these assassinations because the mothers in Tyler Robinson, his mother's involved in behavioral health, and same with Thomas Crooks, both his parents are.
So, these records are being suppressed, Steve.
And this is a national security issue.
So, we have a right to know about the parents that are involved with these killers.
steve bannon
Sheila, where do people go for Able Child?
You're at the tip of the spear on this right now.
Where do folks go to get more information?
And we're going to put the Joe Hoff article out.
sheila matthews
Yeah, Joe Hoff has been great.
He's got a great piece on the fusion, blood fusion, and the MIT scientist.
I really suggest to read on that.
Ablechild.org, ablechild.org.
We need signatures on our petition, and people have been reaching out to us regarding their kids that are on these massive amounts of drugs.
So we get back to you.
We're not doctors or lawyers, but we could tell you what to ask for disclosure and to ask your psychiatrist at your school.
So please visit our website.
And we're not funded by the government.
We're parents.
So please contribute.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Thank you, ma'am.
Appreciate you.
We'll push it up.
Thanks.
Brutal.
unidentified
All right.
steve bannon
Awful.
unidentified
Horrible.
steve bannon
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Charlie Kirk show next.
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