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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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| It's Monday, 22 December, in the year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| We're so packed today. | ||
| We came into a cold open. | ||
| We've got a lot to talk about after Turning Point. | ||
| We've got a lot to get to there, and we're going to get to we've got economics, capital markets, and most importantly, voter fraud, voter integrity, 2020 election, all of it, Tina Peters that we're going to start the show off. | ||
| I want to go to John Case. | ||
| It's going to join me in a moment. | ||
| The reason I'm starting the show off with this today is that there's filings, big filings going on, both about the 2020 election and about the Tina Peters case, which is about the 2020 election. | ||
| Let's start with an old friend of the show, Garland Favredo, down in Georgia, Vote Georgia. | ||
| Garland, correct me if I'm wrong, you're going to file in federal court today. | ||
| And let's talk about the filing in a second, but can you just give us the battlefield down there? | ||
| Because we keep hearing there's 350,000 ballots here. | ||
| They now admit they didn't count the ballots right. | ||
| There's all types of things with the machine. | ||
| Mike Davis is going to join us tonight. | ||
| He's got all types of information, I guess, about SmartMatic. | ||
| I mean, down in Georgia and Fulton County, you had our favorite prosecutor last week get blown up by the Georgia Senate. | ||
| I guess this inquiry. | ||
| Just give us the big picture on exactly what's going on as, because I can tell you it's a very high priority for President Trump and a very high priority for the MAGA movement to get to the bottom of the 2020 election, sir. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, so much going on. | ||
| We would need three shows, but the three big items are major progress working on the Fulton County ballots and state election board ruling against Fulton County. | ||
| We can talk about that. | ||
| As you said, Fonnie Willis was some amazing things came out with Fonnie Willis last week. | ||
| And we'd have to do a whole show, but just to give you the listeners a little bit of a backup, her entire case was exploded by the Prosecuting Attorneys Council. | ||
| There was nothing in this 41-count RICO indictment that was legitimate. | ||
| The document that they produced went point by point over all the issues, the Republican electors, the Jeffrey Clark thing, Mark Meadows, and explained point by point why this prosecution that she tried to do of her 18 political adversaries was invalid. | ||
| And that was all based on money she got from the Fulton County board when she claimed that she wanted to use the money to reduce the murder case backlog. | ||
| Instead, she used it to indict 18 of her political adversaries. | ||
| So that blew up just a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| And that's a whole nother subject we'll have to talk about sometime on your show. | ||
| But then the last week, as you said, Steve, she testified before the Senate. | ||
| And there was more major things that came out there of how the White House was coordinating this. | ||
| And not only in the J6, Fonnie's team was coordinating with the J6 team even before she ever opened the investigation, the special investigation. | ||
| So they showed that document as she had reached out to J6 to get information before the special investigation had ever started. | ||
| And then as soon as President Trump declared, they had more calls the next day. | ||
| We've got the billing records from Nathan Wade on that. | ||
| Happy to show those, but we probably need to do a whole segment on that, on all the information that came out. | ||
| But one of the other incredible things that came out last week was the fact that she was tracking the publicity value of the case. | ||
| And she had a guy who was working for Fulton County who was also essentially double dipping as a kind of a campaign strategist. | ||
| And he was tracking the media value of the case. | ||
| And we have, there's grass with $150 million of value, another one with $633 million. | ||
| And they were tracking this, the media value of her name all the while she was conducting this prosecution into her political adversaries. | ||
| Tell me about, can we go to the Fulton County ballots also now? | ||
| We're going to go back and go in depth more probably later in the week on all this because it is absolutely essential we get to the bottom in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Pennsylvania, all of it. | ||
| But Georgia seems to be the one that the corruption is most up in your face. | ||
| Talk to me about these ballots because I've heard there's 500,000 ballots in a trailer. | ||
| I've been advocating sending U.S. Marshals in there. | ||
| Hermie Dillon at Maine Justice is sending strongly worded letters, which is fine. | ||
| But I heard now they've actually, I guess Fulton County has admitted that there's hundreds of thousands that were not legitimately counted now, sir. | ||
| Well, yeah, that's right, Steve. | ||
| So the big thing this past week, and by the way, I got to give some thanks to what I call the Voter J posse. | ||
| David Cross brought this case. | ||
| Joe Rossi's been another great one of the state election board. | ||
| But he brought this case that the tabulator tapes were missing or unsigned for almost all of the early voting ballots that were cast, which was a total of 315,000 ballots. | ||
| So they were able to get a referral to the Attorney General, a criminal referral over this matter and a recommendation of $5,000 per missing tabulator tape, 148 missing tabulator tapes, plus they're missing the zero tapes. | ||
| So the total potential fine of that would be $1.4 million, if my math is correct. | ||
| That is what Fulton County is now facing. | ||
| And Steve, that is only the tip of the iceberg in Fulton County. | ||
| There's many, many more investigations and things that are going to come. | ||
| Also, we know that 1.7 million original ballot images were destroyed statewide in that 2020 election. | ||
| They should have been preserved for two years. | ||
| That is another big thing. | ||
| But the thing that's helped us so much is that the state election board has been reconfigured to have a majority of members who really care about election integrity. | ||
| And they are real heroes and heroines, and they are under tremendous pressure. | ||
| You know, the media is lying about them almost on a daily or weekly basis. | ||
| But hats off to them for standing strong and making this referral. | ||
| But I would predict that it's just one of many, many to come. | ||
| I think you're seeing the dam finally break here in Georgia after five years. | ||
| Before I get to your filing today, this is what I think is so frustrating to people. | ||
| Campus is supposed to have a machine down there. | ||
| They've been the biggest obstructionist against President Trump or MAGA, the new electees to the state election board. | ||
| Of course, the Democrats in Fulton County are totally corrupt and going to fight it. | ||
| But why is the dam breaking now five years after the fact, particularly when, correct me if I'm wrong, the Republicans control the state apparatus, sir? | ||
| Well, you know this better than anybody, but basically we have a uniparty in Georgia as we have in almost all the other states. | ||
| And quite frankly, the establishment Republicans don't care about election integrity. | ||
| In fact, they are adamantly working against us. | ||
| And they even pose a bigger threat than the Democrats because this is a majority Republican state. | ||
| So if you have honest leadership at the top of the Republican Party, then you're going to make some significant headway. | ||
| That hasn't happened. | ||
| There's a lot of collusion up there. | ||
| And that has really been a key stumbling block. | ||
| But the dam is breaking in many different ways. | ||
| One, as I mentioned, the state election board has gotten has been reconfigured. | ||
| And I think that was more by accident. | ||
| But we've got great people there now. | ||
| And we have got new evidence has come out regarding the fact that back in September 30th of 24, there was a case. | ||
| Unrefuted expert witness testimony showed that the Dominion system we're using here in Georgia was never legitimately certified by the EAC and the Election Assistance Commission, when I say EAC. | ||
| And that is another key thing that has broken the dam here and it's led to our filing to decertify the system, not decertify, but vacate the original certification because it was never properly certified in the first place. | ||
| So that's another area where the dam is breaking. | ||
| Of course, the Fonnie Willis thing had to run its course, and that's now finally on the table. | ||
| And we, by the way, have gotten the SB 244, which was a bill that we got passed to provide compensation for these victims of prosecutorial misconduct. | ||
| What Fonnie Willis did, and it was the greatest case of prosecutorial misconduct in American history. | ||
| And this is not new. | ||
| We said this back in two years ago when we called for her impeachment two years ago. | ||
| And everything that we said then was echoed by this prosecuting attorney counsel report that came out just in the last month that caused the entire case to be dismissed. | ||
| Is that filing? | ||
| Is that about the Dominion? | ||
| I want to talk about your filing. | ||
| I think you're filing in federal court today. | ||
| What are the details of this? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the Dominion system was never legitimately certified. | ||
| We have unrefuted expert witness testimony and we have the also forensic reports that show that it does not comply with the guidelines, the 2005 guidelines for encryption key protection and for secure password management. | ||
| It's pretty much an open and shut case. | ||
| This is pretty rock-solid concrete. | ||
| Tremendous expert witness testimony and forensics to back this up. | ||
| This is a really serious deal. | ||
| So we have filed to vacate that certification and provide all with the expert witnesses reports. | ||
| And we're going to explain that today, as well as what's interesting about this, Steve, is that, you know, this testimony is unrefuted. | ||
| And we found out later that one of the organizations that has tried to refute, not necessarily this testimony, but expert witness testimony regarding Dominion is this Colorado County Clerks Association. | ||
| So we did an investigation into that a little bit as preliminary and just see that this is kind of a facade shell. | ||
| It appears to be operating under the will of the Dominion Voting System Company, which is headquartered in Colorado. | ||
| So we're going to lay out some of the evidence there that today that shows that that is really not a legitimate run organization. | ||
| Do we owe all this to five years after the fact, you know, a couple of hundred patriots that have been hammering this every day from the state election board to your organization to others that have just pounded this? | ||
| I mean, what's so amazing and going after Fonnie Willis, I mean, the corruption and the malfeasance is so deep. | ||
| It's like President Trump said when he came out to Amfest last year, the reason he decided to come back and run again is he realized if we didn't actually tell the truth, if we didn't win and then had the opportunity to tell the truth, it would be the biggest catastrophe in the history of this republic that they were allowed to steal a presidential election and that so many people either cooperated and or looked the other way. | ||
| In Georgia, I'm going to tell you, this is a black mark on the Georgia political establishment of the Republican Party. | ||
| I just think you guys are such heroes. | ||
| It's such a massive story. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
| You're absolutely right, Steve. | ||
| We got a great volunteer organization. | ||
| I mentioned people like David Cross, Joe Rossi, Kevin Monkla. | ||
| There's so many more of the heroes on the state election board we could go through. | ||
| But it is, they're basically volunteers. | ||
| These are unpaid people that are doing the work of what the Republican Party, the RNC should have done to protect their own interests. | ||
| It's beyond belief. | ||
| But that's exactly what's happened. | ||
| And then just want to mention that what were the press comments we talked about. | ||
| I tell you what. | ||
| Yeah, hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to keep you over. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody for this two o'clock that people can see you at two o'clock. | ||
| A hat tip to the heroes in Georgia. | ||
| Absolutely incredible. | ||
| What warriors. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| Just incredible. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the warm in a moment. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| And I tried to incorporate this in my speech the other day about Greater Israel First, about the signal and the noise. | ||
| What's important and what's going to be important about saving this republic. | ||
| And since it was bequeathed to us, how we're going to pass it down in its best shape to future generations. | ||
| And that battle is now. | ||
| And you got influencers and you got people talking and yelling and screaming all that. | ||
| Hey, you got to get beyond that and get to the issues. | ||
| You know, all this, and I think it's phony talk. | ||
| Oh, we got to come together. | ||
| This guy's thrown out. | ||
| We've got to come together. | ||
| it's all nonsense. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| It's a lot of it's all nonsense. | ||
| What makes the difference here is in this populist movement is people that prepared to roll their sleeves up and commit. | ||
| What's your task and purpose? | ||
| Well, it's to save this republic. | ||
| This republic will be saved. | ||
| The heroes in Georgia, and they are heroes. | ||
| Folks, this has been five years. | ||
| Five years. | ||
| You know how easy it is to quit? | ||
| You know how easy it is to say, I just can't do this anymore. | ||
| I want to play golf. | ||
| I want to play pickleball. | ||
| I want to take up pickleball. | ||
| I want to do something. | ||
| But I can't do this anymore. | ||
| I can't do it on my spare time and I'm putting money in for travel and all that. | ||
| I can't do it. | ||
| Georgia, which has this big Republican apparatus, you got the RNC, you got all these fat cats running around, and they're this. | ||
| They got titles, they're going to these conferences, and they're talking on TV and talking. | ||
| No. | ||
| This populist movement goes back, just like in the Revolution. | ||
| It goes back to a collection of people that are just too honored to give up because they said, this is not right. | ||
| That's what drove Trump to come back. | ||
| And as imperfect as we are today and everything that we're working on, I realize people are very frustrated. | ||
| It's at least directionally we are moving in the right direction. | ||
| We're not getting enough done. | ||
| We're not getting enough done quick enough. | ||
| And there's so many other problems. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| But this republic is being saved by the work of these heroes in Georgia. | ||
| If you watch the Fonnie Willis thing over the last couple weeks, and it's not getting any coverage. | ||
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| Because the mainstream media doesn't want to touch it because then you're going to the heart of the system. | ||
| It's jaw-dropping. | ||
| And think about it. | ||
| She was sending Trump to prison, but she broke so many people. | ||
| Hell, it's one of the reasons Rudy went bankrupt. | ||
| Rudy's beautiful, I don't know, 16-room apartment in New York City, I think he had to sell and didn't take any cash out of the deal because he had to pay it off to other things. | ||
| You folks in Georgia, you're simply heroes. | ||
| You're exactly like that revolutionary generation that has come down and had the back of Hamilton and had the back of Sam Adams and had the back of Jefferson and Washington and the militias and the small Continental Army. | ||
| It's just incredible. | ||
| And when you look at what went on, it is so awful on so many other levels. | ||
| And that's why I just, with Harmony Dillon, these guys, stop. | ||
| I realize you got to go to court in the show. | ||
| Send the freaking marshals down there and just grab the ballots. | ||
| It's time now. | ||
| You got to take hard action. | ||
| These people for five years have been hammering away. | ||
| And you people are heroes. | ||
| You're American heroes. | ||
| You tie directly back through every patriot's grave to the revolutionary generation. | ||
| That's simply what's going to save this country, not TikTok, not influences, not, no, You. | ||
| This is the manifestation of populism, the manifestation of it. | ||
| Garland, extraordinary. | ||
| We're going to get more details for you, but now you've got a filing in federal court. | ||
| Tell me about 2 p.m. today. | ||
| I want everybody to tune into this and we'll put it up on both my account and Rumble Getter and also the war room. | ||
| So what's happening? | ||
| We'll do, Steve. | ||
| And I just want to echo what you just said. | ||
| You know, I get credit for a lot of things that the volunteers do. | ||
| We have an amazing team. | ||
| Just a shout out for them. | ||
| You know, my wife, Tamara, has been incredibly active, has just done all sorts of things. | ||
| We've got the best, our social media executive admin has just been fabulous. | ||
| And right on down the line, there's so many people I could talk about, our marketing person. | ||
| They're all volunteers. | ||
| It's just amazing. | ||
| So just wanted to echo that for you. | ||
| Thank you for the, we appreciate the compliment. | ||
| But it certainly is not me. | ||
| It's them. | ||
| But to go to your point, so two o'clock today, we don't have a press conference. | ||
| If y'all have never seen a VoterGA press conference, we've got them all out there on the events tab. | ||
| We try to, they're educational. | ||
| We try to get as much information out. | ||
| We want to walk through today why we believe the Dominion system is not legitimately certified by the Election Assistance Commission. | ||
| Specifically, it does not keep the encryption keys in an encryption module as it's required to do. | ||
| And its password management was inappropriate for a variety of reasons, which we'll describe today. | ||
| But the standards, it was certified in 2019 according to 2005 standards, which it did not meet. | ||
| And those standards were based on other standards that go back not only to 2001, but all the way back to 1984. | ||
| So in 2019, a system was delivered in Georgia that doesn't meet 1984 standards. | ||
| We're going to bring the receipts today. | ||
| There won't be any question about it. | ||
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| You might have a few questions for the guy who was Secretary of State back then, Kemp. | ||
| The Kemp cabal is up to their necks in this corruption. | ||
| This is what's so maddening about it, right? | ||
| They get a grip on Georgia. | ||
| They got a grip on the Republican Party in Georgia. | ||
| And everybody in the precinct strategy will tell you they're absolutely brutal. | ||
| They do not want any MAGA. | ||
| They don't want any involvement of people. | ||
| They got a machine down there tied to the business community. | ||
| They're making money hand over fist, and they don't want anybody breaking up their little gathering. | ||
| That's what's so sick about this. | ||
| And if it was not for these heroes over five years of hammering, hammering, hammering. | ||
| That's the cussedness that made this country what it is. | ||
| Garland, we got to bounce. | ||
| 2 p.m., where do they go today, sir? | ||
| To your press conference. | ||
| VoterGA.org events tab. | ||
| Just you can pick it up there on the events tab. | ||
| The live stream link is there. | ||
| We love to have you. | ||
| And you can ask questions in the Rumble chat. | ||
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| The Rumble chat is the Rumble chat in the war room comes in a little hot. | ||
| So make sure you get your filter up. | ||
| Garland Favrea, thank you very much, sir. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| You know how far gone this thing is? | ||
| If you had told me years ago, or if you told me in the, for the folks who've been watching the show for a while, if you had told me in November or December of 2020, when every day for hours a day, we're going through this stuff. | ||
| If you told me, if you had told me in December when they were getting ready to do the electors, remember in Georgia in all the states? | ||
| If you had told me, Steve, by the way, on December, on the 22nd, December of 2025, Garland Favredo is going to be in the show. | ||
| In fact, he's going to start your Monday show after Amfest, and he's going to talk about Fulton County and ballots and the machines, and it's going to all be breaking news and going to federal court. | ||
| Get the hell out of here. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Think about that. | ||
| For you watching the show, this is the lesson. | ||
| Back in December of 2020, where we were hammering, and by the way, then getting, remember, we were getting kicked off every platform. | ||
| COVID and that threw us off every national major platform. | ||
| If you said, hey, Garland Favrito is going to lead your show on the 22nd of December of 2025 with breaking news on all this. | ||
| And here's the lesson. | ||
| The lesson is you drive to politics. | ||
| You drive it. | ||
| If you give up, it's not going to happen and you're not going to know about Georgia. | ||
| And Fonnie Willis is not going to be held account and Rothsonsberg and all that crowd. | ||
| And the Democrats are just going to be able to steal things. | ||
| My point the other day, we're going to have Malpass on. | ||
| He's going to talk to you about the Fed, but you can start to see the beginning of an economic turnaround. | ||
| Although Malpass makes the case, hey, the way the Fed's structured now and the way they got in it, the more Trump, they're going to be the biggest headwind to Trump's growth strategy because things are not particularly in sync right now. | ||
| But once the economics part gets worked out, which I think you can see getting worked out, you think the Democrats are just going to roll over and say, oh, yeah, fine, well, the economy's working. | ||
| I guess we're going to lose. | ||
| Hell no. | ||
| They're going to be stealing more than ever. | ||
| They're going to be stealing more than ever. | ||
| It's one of the reasons that Stefanik, I think, said, I must take a step back. | ||
| And this year right now, because with Mamdani, you got a Marxist jihadist running New York City, the apparatus. | ||
| He putting his hands on the apparatus. | ||
| He's not denaturalized, which he could be. | ||
| With Hochul and that crowd in Albany, in Mamdani, in New York, they're going to create as many ballots as they need. | ||
| You can raise all the money you want. | ||
| You have the best message you want. | ||
| You have the best team you want. | ||
| You can be the best candidate. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| The 2020 election in Georgia was stolen. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| And now five years after the fact, all the data is coming out, et cetera. | ||
| But they're going to all want to go away. | ||
| That's why they made you straight. | ||
| Oh, this is, you know, but that's all been settled. | ||
| There have been eight national elections, either primaries, midterm elections, which are national for Congress, and or presidentials. | ||
| Eight since Donald Trump came on the scene in really 2015 for the 2016, 2015, 2016 primary. | ||
| We've won seven. | ||
| Seven. | ||
| You have won seven. | ||
| You're not beatable. | ||
| You're not beatable. | ||
| The only one we lost is when everybody leaned on their shovels in 2018. | ||
| And Nancy Pelosi went out throughout the country and says, let me win the house and I'll impeach Trump. | ||
| And she was good for her word. | ||
| Told people at the time, this is what's going to happen. | ||
| You're not beatable. | ||
| You know the reason you're not beatable of what these patriots in Georgia are showing you about stick-to-itiveness, guts, tenacity, and good old American grit. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| No, I'm not trying to, I'm not slighting the influencers. | ||
| They call us now a mega influencer, right? | ||
| I guess that's a handle that we have. | ||
| The influencers are very super important. | ||
| They're the massive force multipliers in the information war. | ||
| What is Alex Jones' great take on Shakespeare? | ||
| Cry havoc and unleash the dogs of information war. | ||
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It's very powerful. | |
| But populism is the people taking control of their destiny. | ||
| That's the essence of populism, is people just saying, we're not going to do that. | ||
| We're going to do this. | ||
| That's the history of this country when you cut through it. | ||
| Really look at it. | ||
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| The real, the facts. | ||
| You know what the strategy in the Revolutionary War was? | ||
| You know what the grand strategy in the Revolutionary War was? | ||
| That eventually went global and had this, turned into another massive geopolitical global struggle from India to the capital markets in London, the city of London, all of it? | ||
| The grand strategy of the revolutionary generation was simple. | ||
| If we don't quit, we win. | ||
| If we don't quit, we win. | ||
| The British have the most powerful, in fact, they built an institution, the Royal Navy, that was one of the most powerful institutions in the history of mankind, created one of the greatest empires ever. | ||
| You had a British army that pound for pound was as tough and successful as any army at the time in the world, plus mercenaries, plus money, plus thinking, right? | ||
| I mean, although William Pitt the Elder was not, he was actually more on our side than their side about how to think this thing through. | ||
| You still had all that handed down generation after generation of really geopolitical thinking. | ||
| And folks over here was very simple. | ||
| If we don't quit, we win. | ||
| Part of not quitting is we've got to keep the Continental Army. | ||
| We've got to keep an army in being. | ||
| We can't let that be destroyed because that's a little institution we got that rallies people around these militias, etc. | ||
| If we don't quit, we win. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| We didn't quit. | ||
| War went from Fort Ticonderoga to Bunker Hill to Lexington Concord, all of it. | ||
| On Christmas Day, Patrick Donnell and I do what we've done every year for the last, I don't know, decade, the combat history of Christmas. | ||
| We talk about the Christmas season through the eyes of some of the greatest battles in American history that were fought. | ||
| We start always with Trenton, having gotten his ass kicked for three or four months everywhere. | ||
| Washington finally took a stand and turned this thing around. | ||
| If you don't quit, you win. | ||
| Georgia shows you exactly what the Patriots at Trenton on Christmas night, rolling up a bunch of drunk Germans was about. | ||
| If you don't quit, you win. | ||
| That's us. | ||
| We've won seven of eight national elections in 20, over the last decade. | ||
| No political movement in the history of this country has done this. | ||
| You've won seven of eight national elections. | ||
| And nobody talks about it because nobody wants you to understand it. | ||
| That is you. | ||
| That's nobody. | ||
| That's you. | ||
| There's no big strategies here. | ||
| All the money, 80% of the time, the money was against you. | ||
| If you don't quit, you win. | ||
| And what they want you to do now is discourage and all this. | ||
| Heck with it. | ||
| Just focus on the work. | ||
| See what you see. | ||
| Don't be diverted. | ||
| See what you see and act thereupon. | ||
| We're going to go from the sublime to the maybe less sublime. | ||
| Normally, the voter integrity and the grassroots stuff is a little gnarly. | ||
| And I get to the capital markets, you have, you know, guys like David Malpaz and Cortez and Avar, the thinking great thoughts, right? | ||
| But there's a populist battle at the capital market at the highest levels. | ||
| And it's taken David Malpaz, who was like the number three guy in Treasury in President Trump's first term and head of the World Bank, to kind of think, really think this thing through. | ||
| He says, hey, not only did he say President Trump intuitively knows it, but there's a structure. | ||
| We have a big time structural issue here that, you know, the bet that we made, the massive bet that we made on the Big Beautiful bill on the supply side tax cut and the tariffs as a forcing function to drive capital expenditures here to bring high value manufacturing, you know, maybe working again us. | ||
| David Malpass, thank you so much for writing this, doing it. | ||
| And I really want to thank actually also the Wall Street Journal, which is not a friend of populism and not particularly a friend of the war room. | ||
| They have gone, I think, out of their way to allow you to start making this case on the pages of the, along with the Financial Times of London, I would say is the most prestigious financial paper in the world. | ||
| Sir, the floor is yours. | ||
| You take it. | ||
| Hi, Steve. | ||
| Good to see you. | ||
| Well, you've talked long and effectively about the importance of institutional reform. | ||
| And that includes, and I'm worried about the lack of reform going on at the IMF and the World Bank and the WHO and the OECD. | ||
| They're all growing bigger, and especially the Fed. | ||
| It's growing bigger. | ||
| They've got their building, which President Trump highlighted, a $3 billion building. | ||
| They just announced on December 11th that they're really expanding their balance sheet. | ||
| So that puts them in directly confrontation or collaboration with the government as a whole in getting bigger. | ||
| The Fed buys bonds and bills and has no limits on how much they can buy. | ||
| What they also did on December 11th was appoint 23 senior officials to five-year terms in the Fed. | ||
| So they'll outlast President Trump. | ||
| Two of those came out on Friday and said they were hawkish. | ||
| They thought that the growth of the country was fast enough that they didn't really want to be looking at any more rate cuts. | ||
| So one of the worries is that we're done with the rate cutting cycle. | ||
| You know, President Trump was right on both the buildings and the rates. | ||
| And this goes to this issue of who are the winners and losers out of the status quo. | ||
| The Fed is running the status quo that has all these 50-year-old models that don't work on inflation. | ||
| And I'll give you some names, you know, the gnarly Nairu and the Phillips curve, the inflation targeting model, the QE model, which they're reinstituting, which just means for the Fed and Washington, D.C. to get bigger and more powerful over the private sector. | ||
| Through this, China is one of the winners because they're seeing the dollar undercut. | ||
| So very importantly in this, the Fed doesn't defend the dollar. | ||
| It doesn't create sound money. | ||
| And so that's a core part of what's hurting the lower part of the income scale. | ||
| A lot of what's going on in Washington benefits the rich, but leaves the lower part and small businesses out of the mix. | ||
| And so that's all just playing out right now. | ||
| And there's nothing, I don't see anything that's going to stop it. | ||
| Don't bury the lead here. | ||
| Why are we doing this audience, although, you know, working class and middle class is very familiar with the terminology of the last five, six, seven years we've explained to people. | ||
| Quantitative easing. | ||
| Why are we expanding the balance sheet? | ||
| I thought we were going to try to make sure we didn't have asset bubbles. | ||
| I thought the purpose was to try to maybe tighten this thing up. | ||
| Why is the Fed doing quantitative easing right now? | ||
| Why are we expanding the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve? | ||
| They say they're worried about liquidity within the banking system. | ||
| Here we are in this asset price escalation, and the banks are really effective at taking care of themselves. | ||
| Why are we worried about the banks and the money market funds? | ||
| But the Fed says they have to be the center of the financial system. | ||
| So what they announced on December 11th, and it's formally, it's on the Fed website, that they're going to buy $40 billion per month of Treasury bills just to create liquidity for the banks. | ||
| That means they borrow from the banks and create a basis of lending for the banks to somehow help them. | ||
| But what that means is the banks aren't going to be lending to small businesses. | ||
| That would be a better choice for the country and for the people. | ||
| The Fed's protecting the big guy in that decision, and that's what QE does. | ||
| Why do we need a Fed that's going to have $9 trillion of assets, all of it, government bonds? | ||
| Why do we want a central bank that only invests in the U.S. government and it does it in such large portions that it manipulates capital markets? | ||
| And anytime they talk about liquidity issues and the repos and everything like that, which is very complicated to understand, why should we be having, isn't that kind of a flashing kind of red light for people that why are we having a liquidity issue that you have to go back and have to use the Fed's balance sheet to do this? | ||
| Isn't that a question a lot of people are starting to ask? | ||
| And they should. | ||
| Because the Fed is the 800-pound guerrilla, the private sector isn't doing the work that they used to do. | ||
| That was the interbank market and the Fed funds market and their third-party repo market that was all private sector. | ||
| That's been nationalized by the Fed. | ||
| So it's all sitting in the Fed. | ||
| So that means if the Fed does things good enough for government work, you know what that means. | ||
| They're going to miss the whole point. | ||
| So in 2019, famously, they didn't anticipate there were going to be quarterly tax payments. | ||
| Everybody in the world knew there were going to be quarterly tax payments that required cash. | ||
| The Fed didn't set up in advance for that because it's put itself in the center of markets and not letting independent action take care of things. | ||
| And so that's what they're saying now. | ||
| They're worried about these markets not operating properly. | ||
| So then they want to put themselves in it. | ||
| And that straight out hurts small businesses. | ||
| It hurts the supply chain. | ||
| It hurts mortgage rates. | ||
| And that's what we're living with. | ||
| The gold today, I think, is hitting 4,400. | ||
| You're looking at all-time high silvers now through the roof. | ||
| Central banks are buying gold, particularly the Chinese and others. | ||
| Is part of that driven by this uncertainty? | ||
| People just don't really understand, quite frankly, what's going on? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Well, no, I think, and I did a lot, the Wall Street Journal ran my letter pointing out that why gold is up is because people don't trust the Fed. | ||
| They think the Fed is going to keep doing what it's doing, which means periodic inflation catastrophes like they did in the Biden and early Trump administrations. | ||
| And so they buy gold to protect themselves from the Fed. | ||
| The Chinese have been a master at this. | ||
| They've made a fortune by swapping out of the U.S. dollar into gold. | ||
| And today we've got gold and silver at all-time records. | ||
| And so that means the little guy who doesn't own very much of the gold and silver stock gets hurt. | ||
| I would rather, I think it would be much better if we had a growth program for that. | ||
| And that, you know, President Trump has been very clear that he wants the little guy to do well, median incomes to go up, wages to go up. | ||
| That's the, you know, that's each part of his program is aimed at trying to get a better shake for the for the guy in the bottom half. | ||
| And that would be much better. | ||
| But the whole Fed is set up to Trump-proof itself to be able to outlast Trump and not go along with that. | ||
| They do better. | ||
| They get richer by really facilitating the top end of Wall Street, of big corporations, and above all, of big government. | ||
| Dave, we got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| Your writings are up in the Wall Street Journal, but you're putting stuff up on social media all the time. | ||
| Where do they go to get your writings? | ||
| I'm on X.com at David R. at David R. Malpass. | ||
| And Wall Street Journal, you can Google Malpass WSJ and see a lot of this. | ||
| One of the things they came out with last week was the idea that the Fed's no longer. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| No, hang on one second. | ||
| Just hang on to the next one. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Yeah, David. | ||
| David Malpass is with us. | ||
| Give me a minute on, I think it was Sternberg, the piece in the journal about the Fed not driving the thing anymore. | ||
| He made the case that somehow the Fed is losing control of what's going on. | ||
| I see it differently, that they've got this tight pinpoint control. | ||
| People talk about their independence, but they're fully in control. | ||
| Independence isn't the issue. | ||
| It's the independence of the private sector that I think we have to defend. | ||
| The Fed's models are inherently anti-growth. | ||
| And the problem is President Trump has talked about restructuring the Fed, but from all I can see, nothing's going to be restructured in those models. | ||
| This inflation targeting model is going to be the law of the land. | ||
| And that means they'll lean against growth as President Trump tries to push forward. | ||
| I know it's a key. | ||
| It's insanity because that's the cold core of his program. | ||
| One more time, David, social media. | ||
| Where do they get you on Twitter for all your writings? | ||
| At David R. Malpass. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on. | ||
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| Remember, David just said the international central banks are learning how to use gold to hedge like people have done over 5,000 years. | ||
| one of the reasons the price is being driven up. | ||
| Steve Cortez, I had you on here because you're at OECD and I want to make sure people understand the institution about your journey over there and what the globalists think about all this because they invited you as a populist nationalist to address them. | ||
| But I got to ask you, you traded, you were in the pits of Chicago trading this stuff for decades. | ||
| Your current thought on where we are, sir? | ||
| Well, what I'm most worried about is the value of the U.S. dollar because you've been talking about gold and silver, which is super important. | ||
| Of course, both of them at all-time highs. | ||
| But the dollar has been broadly devalued, devalued even versus other fiat currencies, lost value versus the Euro currency all year, despite the systemic problems of Europe, which we're going to get into, but also losing incredible value versus crypto, losing value domestically versus hard assets like land and housing. | ||
| One of the key drivers of the housing affordability crisis here that a lot of folks don't talk about and don't connect these dots is the diminution of the dollar. | ||
| So it matters very much. | ||
| You don't have to be a currency trader. | ||
| You don't have to be a world traveler to care about what the dollar means. | ||
| It means a lot to you for your trip to Target, your trip to Walmart, your efforts to buy a home, young strivers who want to form a family, start having children and buy a home. | ||
| So I'm really worried about the dollar. | ||
| No one in Washington, D.C., or very few voices in Washington, D.C., either on the fiscal side of the ledger or on the monetary policy side, seem to care very much about the dollar. | ||
| But believe me, while we're asleep at the switch, losing dollar supremacy, having King Dollar dethroned could have massive consequences, particularly for a country with $38 trillion in debt. | ||
| The only reason that that debt load has been semi-manageable, it's getting a lot less manageable, but it's been semi-manageable is because of the primacy of the U.S. dollar. | ||
| That is at risk right now. | ||
| And these global institutions, whether it's the World Bank or the OECD or the Fed or its counterparts, central banks around the world, to David Malpis' very smart point, they are largely clueless. | ||
| Many of them are intrinsically corrupt. | ||
| But in addition to that, not just corrupt, that would be bad enough, Steve, but in addition to corrupt, incompetent. | ||
| And I would give as evidence of that, the Fed right here, remember, during the Biden administration, for purely partisan political reasons, the highly politicized, highly Washingtonian central bank of this country put its credibility on the line in backing Janet Yellen in her constant lie that inflation was transitory, when of course it was anything but. | ||
| It was deeply embedded. | ||
| It was systemic. | ||
| We're still trying to deal with it now. | ||
| But the Fed looked you in the eye and backed Yellen's grand lie that this was transitory. | ||
| That alone should be enough, I hope, for regular Americans to say, hold on a second, not going to listen to this group. | ||
| They might have hundreds of PhDs, but they don't have common sense. | ||
| They don't have integrity. | ||
| They don't care about mainstream prosperity. | ||
| They don't care about small businesses. | ||
| They don't care about my personal financial well-being. | ||
| And so because of that, we need to make these institutions much less powerful, much less potent going forward. | ||
| You've got the monetary side, and that's stacked against the American people, because they say the Fed's totally independent. | ||
| That's not the case. | ||
| It's controlled by the globalists. | ||
| This is one of the reasons President Trump's been going after it so hard. | ||
| But then you have the fiscal side. | ||
| They just had the analysis that rolled out on the path that we are now with Congress having been totally incapable of cutting spending at all, is that they projected out the next 10 years. | ||
| And in 2035, we're going to be spending over $2 trillion just in interest payments. | ||
| By this time, that time will just be spinning out of control, right? | ||
| I mean, you can't, the path we're on, we've said before, is unsustainable. | ||
| And people say, well, the system's still going. | ||
| Well, what's happening is the dollar is getting crushed in value. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons people's financial and economic life is so hard, correct? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So, in other words, the only reason that, again, I say it's semi-manageable right now is because the dollar is still regarded as the reserve currency for the world, though losing that status in a steady way. | ||
| So, interest rates are not as high as they might be given this debt load. | ||
| However, if the United States continues down this path of saying, well, we're effectively just going to keep devaluing the dollar, you reach a break point where global bond markets then say, if I'm getting paid back in United States dollars, if I'm going to get back greenbacks, I'm going to demand far, far higher interest rates. | ||
| And therein lies the risk. | ||
| That's the crash type risk that is getting more real by the day. | ||
| And what we see again from hard asset markets or more tangible, you know, limited quantity markets, whether it's gold or crypto or land, what we're seeing increasingly is institutional capital, smart capital, is flowing, flooding really into these assets. | ||
| And that's wonderful for the already successful. | ||
| It's wonderful for the credentialed managerial elites who own a lot of assets. | ||
| It's brutal for Main Street USA, and we see that reflected, by the way, in the polling. | ||
| Steve, can you hang on a second? | ||
| I want to talk about the OECD and the impact these institutions have on the lives of Americans. | ||
| People don't want you to understand this stuff because they want to, this is the way the globalists rule. | ||
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