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| Exhorting his colleagues this year, he said, do not anticipate what a dictator wants and accede to it in advance. | ||
| Do not obey in advance. | ||
| Whenever you see those words, do not obey in advance, you are seeing Tim Snyder's ideas at work in the world, and that admonition has wormed its way into all of our consciences, right? | ||
| Start by not giving in. | ||
| Lesson one. | ||
| One of the other things I'm going to talk about with Tim tonight is another one of his lessons that sometimes comes to me in the middle of the night, which is his lesson 18. | ||
| And that is be calm when the unthinkable arrives. | ||
| Tim Snyder somehow got that essential idea down to six words. | ||
| Be calm when the unthinkable arrives. | ||
| It now lives in my brain every day. | ||
| And it lives in the world as unforgettable guidance for anybody who does have a tyrannical nightmare unfolding where they live. | ||
| What do you think that our national reaction should be to those prosecutions and relatedly to the administration's efforts to characterize all these overwhelmingly nonviolent protests against them as if they're all riots and they're all constructed, nefarious, criminal, dangerous things? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, we should all know, and I'm sure we all do know, that this is how authoritarian regimes react to any kind of physical opposition. | ||
| You get characterized as terrorists and criminals and foreigners and so on. | ||
| This is absolutely authoritarianism 101, and we should help make sure that in sensitive issues like this, the media don't just repeat what the leaders say, because when they repeat it, they normalize it. | ||
| A second thing is to make sure that we have the positive language on our side, that we recollect that not only in this country, but pretty much everywhere, there isn't progress towards these things that we like to call freedom and justice and democracy without some friction. | ||
| It just never happened. | ||
| Like from every moment, your preferred moment in American history, whatever it is, the woman's suffrage movement, the civil rights movement, whatever it is, there's friction. | ||
| There is always friction. | ||
| And so we have to have the positive language. | ||
| The third thing is we have to help people be heroes. | ||
| Nobody's a hero on their own. | ||
| Like somebody does a little courageous thing, but the people who make them heroes are the ones who donate their legal defense, the ones who write the articles about them, the ones who celebrate those little acts of courage. | ||
| That is on us to do. | ||
| Because you mentioned a number of people, but there are more people who could be mentioned, right? | ||
| And we need to prop them up. | ||
| And the final thing I think legally, and I'm just talking to all you lawyers out there because this is Chicago, and like a lot of you are going to be lawyers, we have to go on the offensive legally. | ||
| We can't just keep waiting for them to sue us and prosecute us. | ||
| We have to find ways to file civil suits against them, which are going to be more plausible than their suits against us and get them on the back foot and consume their resources and force the press to cover our suits against them. | ||
| We're winning a lot of cases defensively, and that's great, but I think we should be going on the offense as well. | ||
| Because, like, the things... | ||
| When you started wearing a whistle, why the whistle occurred to you, and how it sort of took off from a small-scale idea to being as big as it is. | ||
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At the beginning, I just wanted to inform my community about ICE agents to take cover. | |
| So I actually have a whistle. | ||
| There it is. | ||
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And, you know, people said, what is the voiceover going to do? | |
| And it's to inform the community that ICE agents are around. | ||
| If you are undocumented, lock your doors, lock your gates, lock your windows, and, you know, stay safe. | ||
| And people were still doubting it. | ||
| And then we talked to our brothers and sisters over in LA, and they said, Baltimore, when they came, they came like savages. | ||
| And they came through our schools, to our parks, and our hospitals, and they turned off the cell phone towers with a stingray. | ||
| And then I said, well, you can't turn off the whistle. | ||
| And we had a caravan of 12 people, and we went around to the temp agencies and we gave the employers, our employees, know your right cards. | ||
| We said, in case there's a raid at your job site, you know, don't say nothing, don't sign nothing, and ask for an attorney. | ||
| Then we went to our day laborers that stand out at Holton Depot and also educated them on knowing their rights. | ||
| And then we had workshops after mass at the schools, and we prepared the people to know about their rights, not to open the door without a judicial warrant signed by a judge. | ||
| And we showed them all the tricks that they use. | ||
| And even Tom Holman says Chicago was a very difficult city. | ||
| And, you know, I have to say, we have to educate our community because education is key. | ||
| If you're educated, they're not going to do much to you. | ||
| But if you're not educated, they would take advantage. | ||
| And that's why so many people out of report themselves because they didn't know that they have rights. | ||
| And right now, we're educating our community about the Constitution. | ||
| What is the purpose of the Constitution? | ||
| And we have to defend the Constitution from foreign and domestic terrorism. | ||
| First off, will this work? | ||
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Will President Trump's pardon actually free Tina Peters? | |
| No. | ||
| This is a lawless act. | ||
| It's an act of intimidation. | ||
| It has no basis in American law. | ||
| Our system of government gives states authority to run their own criminal justice systems. | ||
| As you noted, there is a trial. | ||
| There is a conviction by a jury. | ||
| There's an appeal to the state courts. | ||
| All that is happening under the rule of law. | ||
| This president doesn't respect the rule of law, but he doesn't have authority to undermine how we operate our judicial system here in Colorado. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| President's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| It's Saturday, 13th, December, year of Roller 2025. | ||
| It's the Army-Navy game today. | ||
| The president of the United States is going taking many of the cabinet members. | ||
| Our own Maureen Bannon is going to be there. | ||
| We would love to show you the march on that'll take place about noon. | ||
| But CBS, who broadcasts the game and does a great job. | ||
| We found out last night has exclusive streaming rights to all of that. | ||
| So we'll make sure you go to CBS, see the march on the midshipmen and the Corps cadets at West Point, the midshipmen at the United States Naval Academy. | ||
| We're absolutely packed today. | ||
| We're going to get to a situation. | ||
| There's all types of rumors and articles about the mass deportations, what cities are going to focus on. | ||
| Are they going to back off that and just focus on bad ombres? | ||
| You saw Rachel Maddos in Chicago at the mocking us. | ||
| Of course, what they're doing is defending the Constitution. | ||
| We got Todd Woods who's going to join us momentarily about what's happening in Savannah because this is actually spreading and the folks in Savannah are begging for help from the U.S. Army or the National Guard or somebody that's empowered to help them. | ||
| We'll get there in a moment. | ||
| Show is totally packed today. | ||
| I want to start with John Case. | ||
| John is one of Tina Peters' lawyers. | ||
| John, we were going to have you last night, but the president had the Miracle on Ice hockey team on and it kind of took over our broadcast. | ||
| We tried to get Mike Lindell at the end because he's a hockey player from Minnesota, but you had kind of an emergency come up on the case anyway. | ||
| Walk us through where do we stand? | ||
| You see on media, they're just going after us nonstop and saying what President Trump did in this pardon is irrelevant. | ||
| I think it's part of a broader plan that you guys are working on. | ||
| But can you just get us up to speed first on where we stand with the case and particularly Tina's, how actually Tina is doing in prison? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Steve. | ||
| So I'm the Denver lawyer for Tina, and Peter Ticton, as you know, is one of the national lawyers. | ||
| So we yesterday received a copy of President Trump's pardon and we drove down to the La Vista correctional facility in Pueblo. | ||
| We went up to the door. | ||
| I arrived about 10 minutes before six. | ||
| When I got out of the car and walked there to the front door, there were three DOC, Department of Corrections officers wearing camos who greeted me, asked me who I was and what I was doing. | ||
| I told him, My name's John Case. | ||
| I'm here to serve you a copy of President Trump's pardon of Tina Peters, and I'm asking you to deliver her to us, to me right now, so that I can take her home. | ||
| And he said, just a minute. | ||
| And then a woman came out and said, my name's Michelle Smith, and I'm the assistant director of the Department of Corrections. | ||
| And then she pulled out a piece of paper and read me a prepared statement that was typed out on the piece of paper. | ||
| And it said essentially that Trump's pardon was not going to be recognized by the state of Colorado because he didn't have authority to pardon Tina Peters. | ||
| And then I said, well, are you asking me to leave? | ||
| And she said, yes. | ||
| And so I thanked her and shook her hand. | ||
| And I went over to the car. | ||
| We waited another about 40 minutes. | ||
| And in the meantime, Peter Ticton sent Michelle Smith an email trying to give her a second opportunity to honor the presidential pardon. | ||
| And then I went back to the front door, and the same three camo-dressed DOC officers greeted me. | ||
| And I said, I just came back to see if you guys changed your mind. | ||
| And they laughed and said, no. | ||
| We're not changing our minds here. | ||
| We're all put away for the night so you can leave. | ||
| So at that point, we left and drove back to Denver. | ||
| So we believe that President Trump's pardon is valid. | ||
| Tina was performing a federal duty when she preserved election records before the Secretary of State destroyed them. | ||
| And the Secretary of State destroyed them in Mesa County and in all counties in Colorado where Dominion voting systems is used, which is 62 out of 64 counties. | ||
| And what was destroyed were the digital records of the 2020 election. | ||
| Federal law 52 U.S.C. 20701 requires county clerks to preserve election records for 22 months after every federal election. | ||
| So Tina was doing her job to preserve the records. | ||
| She was the only clerk in Colorado who did that and then provided a forensic image for experts to analyze. | ||
| And the experts who have looked at this image that Tina preserved say that it shows 14 vulnerabilities in the voting system, and it shows that there was likely manipulation in the 2020 election by some outside bad actor or by a computer program that was running inside the software. | ||
| So those are the conclusions of the experts. | ||
| One of those experts is a Venezuelan national who has fled to the United States, who formerly ran the situation room in Caracas, where elections were rigged in Venezuela using SmartMatic software. | ||
| The Dominion software used throughout the United States and throughout Colorado is a variation of the SmartMatic software that was used to rig elections in Venezuela. | ||
| So, John, John, John, John, just hang on one second. | ||
| I want to get into this. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to come back with you and continue on your description. | ||
| Quite powerful. | ||
| Also, Harmee Dillon and Maine Justice. | ||
| Harmet's in charge of the civil division over there. | ||
| We'll find out what Harmeet has now gotten quite involved in this. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| John Case, the Denver lawyer for Tina Peters, is on the case this morning in the war room. | ||
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| John Case, you're talking about Venezuela, what's happening there. | ||
| Of course, we have a carrier strike group and an amphibious ready group. | ||
| Also, media is reporting this morning, the Wall Street Journal, more assets are flowing into the region through Puerto Rico, more troops, more assets, more drones, all of it. | ||
| Do you think there's any correlation between Venezuela and what happened, what's happening in Venezuela and what they've done to manipulate the obviously, Medora lost the last election by a blowout, but he's still the sitting president. | ||
| And what happened at what Tina Peters found in Colorado? | ||
| Yeah, so here's the connection: the same engineers who worked for SmartMatic and created the software that rigs elections in Venezuela, some of those same engineers work for Dominion voting systems in the U.S. | ||
| And we cannot have an insecure election system that's not transparent. | ||
| So, what Tina, Tina Peters' mission is to get rid of these voting machines. | ||
| She's working at it even from inside the walls of the prison. | ||
| And that's our mission. | ||
| These things are a menace to our freedoms. | ||
| Why would we want a voting system that can be hacked and manipulated by foreign adversaries? | ||
| The center for election fraud is in Venezuela. | ||
| The engineers there were trained. | ||
| Look, hang on, we're not machine guys here. | ||
| We're mail-in ballot guys how they stole it. | ||
| They definitely stole it, but we're always open to the machine because there's so many bizarre things about the machines. | ||
| But didn't Tina Peters went to trial? | ||
| They found her guilty, I think, of seven felonies. | ||
| Look, she's a gold star mother. | ||
| She's in ill health. | ||
| She's held, I think, in a medium security women's prison in Colorado, which my understanding is quite dangerous with the inmates there. | ||
| She's being abused and picked on all the time when she's not in solitary confinement. | ||
| But just for the audience, didn't you guys have every opportunity to present all this evidence at her case, her trial, before she was found guilty of seven felonies by a jury of her peers? | ||
| Especially because some of the charges were very specific to what you're talking about today, correct? | ||
| No, the charge, first of all, she was convicted of four felonies. | ||
| She was acquitted of three. | ||
| And we had no chance to present evidence about why Tina did what she did. | ||
| So why she did what she did is she knew that the Secretary of State was going to erase the digital election records that she, as county clerk, was obligated to preserve by federal law. | ||
| And once she knew that, she made arrangements with a qualified cybersecurity consultant to make an image of the Mesa County Election Management Server hard drive so those records would be preserved. | ||
| The image that she made was legal. | ||
| The gentleman who did it was authorized to enter the room. | ||
| Tina had the legal authority to authorize that gentleman to do the work that he did. | ||
| And the cameras were turned off to protect the identity of that person who had requested that his identity not be revealed because he was being hunted by the cartels for his work for the FBI in a child trafficking internet operation. | ||
| So Tina honored his request that his identity be kept secret. | ||
| The cameras were turned off, but that was legal. | ||
| The cameras were not required to be turned on. | ||
| And the convictions occurred because his identity was misrepresented as Gerald Wood instead of his real name, Conan Hayes. | ||
| Gerald Wood voluntarily agreed to let this gentleman use his county key card to get into the room and identify himself as Gerald Wood. | ||
| Gerald Wood agreed to that in advance. | ||
| So there was no identity theft. | ||
| There was no conspiracy to seal identity. | ||
| John, why did the judge not allow you guys to make that case? | ||
| And is that the basis, one of the basis for your appeal? | ||
| I mean, it's kind of shocking that these fundamental things of her intent and what she was seeing was not allowed in. | ||
| Why did the judge rule that? | ||
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| He said that it was irrelevant. | ||
| If you can believe it, he said it was irrelevant and that it would confuse the jury if they knew that the machines potentially could be rigged and that Tina was performing a federal duty. | ||
| He refused to instruct the jury on Tina's main defense, which was execution of a public duty. | ||
| The judge refused to allow the jury even to see a copy of the federal statute that Tina was obeying, 52 U.S.C. 20701. | ||
| So we, you know, we only one side of the case was presented, the prosecution side. | ||
| We didn't get to present ours. | ||
| And that's the basis of the appeal. | ||
| That's the basis of the appeal. | ||
| They're saying that that appeal and what you're doing there is part of the reason that they're not going to, at least one of the excuses they use. | ||
| Can you just get us up to speed on what is the overall plan here? | ||
| The president is pardoned. | ||
| There's now this huge controversy of whether that has traction. | ||
| You got justice working on a bunch of stuff. | ||
| I hear there's grand juries all over the place. | ||
| Can you just give us the big picture of what's the effort and how President Trump's pardon ties into, because what this audience wants is Titan Peters' freedom and particularly Tina Peters' freedom by Christmas. | ||
| Is there any chance of that or is there anything coming together that you see revolving around President Trump's pardon? | ||
| Well, first of all, we're very grateful for the support of your listeners and viewers. | ||
| And they can find Tina's entire story at tinapeters.us. | ||
| And they can also contribute there to her personal needs and to her legal fund, tinapeeters.us. | ||
| Now, with respect to the pardon, the state has refused to recognize what we believe is a valid presidential pardon. | ||
| So at some point, that will have to be litigated. | ||
| And we haven't made a decision when that will be raised in the appellate case. | ||
| But it will be raised. | ||
| And we believe the pardon is valid. | ||
| Oral argument in Tina's case is set for January 14th, 2026 at 2.30 p.m. in the Colorado Court of Appeals. | ||
| And that will be live streamed if people want to go there to watch it. | ||
| Does that answer your question, Steve? | ||
| Yeah, yes. | ||
| We'll follow that. | ||
| Last thing. | ||
| How is, why is Tina, when I was in federal prison, I mean, you've really got to do something pretty bad, like drugs or cell phone or getting in fights, inmates getting in fights to be put in the shoe, the special housing unit, the whole, right? | ||
| My understanding is that Tina Peters is regularly put into solitary confinement or the shoe just for any perceived thing that the guards or the cops or the authorities think. | ||
| Can you get people up to speed? | ||
| Because for a 70-year-old plus woman to go into the special housing unit, the solitary confinement is psychologically and physically incredibly tough. | ||
| Can you just get us up to speed on exactly what's happening with her? | ||
| It sounds like she's not only a political prisoner, but she's essentially a political prisoner is being tortured in a prison in the United States of America, sir. | ||
| Well, I would not say that she's being tortured. | ||
| It's very difficult psychologically to be in solitary confinement. | ||
| Tina was put there because she told them that she didn't feel safe in the general population because she had raised some issues about what was going on with her and people inside the penitentiary, not the inmates, but officers who work there. | ||
| So her information was pretty startling, I think, to the authorities who interviewed her. | ||
| And they told her they were putting her in solitary confinement for her own protection. | ||
| Her protection from the officers and authorities of the prison? | ||
| No, her protection from other inmates. | ||
| But the information that she has has to do with some of the people who work there. | ||
| And it's quite startling. | ||
| And I'm not authorized to reveal it publicly. | ||
| John, I know you got to bounce. | ||
| You're working on this case. | ||
| We're going to have various people from the Tina Peters camp on, hopefully daily. | ||
| And going forward to this, we got to get a firestorm going. | ||
| How do people find you, social media, your website, about the case and where they go to support Tina Peters? | ||
| Well, I don't, I have a website, but I don't maintain it or use it. | ||
| So go to Tina's website, Tina Peters.us or Tina Peters.us. | ||
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| Tinapeters.us. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And we get all the support there. | ||
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| We'll get the social media up. | ||
| John, you and Peter Ticton. | ||
| People are praying for you. | ||
| They want to support in any way they can. | ||
| The Tina Peters situation is a very high. | ||
| I think it's one of the highest priorities of MAGA. | ||
| This is outrageous in this country to have a woman that's a gold star mother that was doing her job in a prison in the conditions that that prison is in and the conditions Tina Peterson. | ||
| So thank you very much for joining us here on a Saturday. | ||
| You're welcome, Steve. | ||
| And by the way, it's not a medium security prison. | ||
| It's a maximum security prison. | ||
| That's all they have for women in Colorado. | ||
| So Tina's incarcerated with people who've committed heinous crimes. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Amazing and sick. | ||
| John, thank you so much. | ||
| And thank you for all your work for Tina. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| We're going to Savannah. | ||
| I think you might be shocked what's happening in that great southern city next in the world. | ||
| Tonight, a Georgia woman suffering horrifying chemical burns after being attacked in a popular Savannah park. | ||
| Photos from her hospital bed showing bandages around her entire head. | ||
| We spoke to her son and best friend who've been by her bedside. | ||
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| Police say the attack happened around eight Wednesday night as Ashley Wasalewski walked through Forsyth Park after a church program. | ||
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| And she turned around and went to push him. | ||
| And then just in that split second, was like, why is he pouring water on me? | ||
| Within seconds, Wasalewski's clothing started disintegrating. | ||
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| She was later flown to a burn center in Augusta, the FBI now working to identify that chemical that left her so badly scarred. | ||
| Savannah's mayor posting this photo of what he calls a person of interest, asking the public to help identify him. | ||
| Forsyth Park is an iconic tourist attraction. | ||
| False eye park. | ||
| Even featured in films like 1997's Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. | ||
| Savannah police now stepping up patrols at parks across the city and saying that based on their initial investigation, the victim does not know her attacker. | ||
| We have no evidence that this is part of a larger pattern. | ||
| Meanwhile, Wasalewski's friends and family are focused on her mental and physical recovery. | ||
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| I mean, it's going to be hard to deal with, and there's going to be some traumatic response to it. | ||
| Okay, Todd Woods comes in. | ||
| And Todd, by the way, he's working on the machines. | ||
| And listen, don't get me wrong. | ||
| I know we can prove beyond any doubt the stealing of the 2020 election just with the mail-in ballots. | ||
| Don't misconstrue that. | ||
| I don't think these machines are completely and totally screwed up. | ||
| And I think as we get more information on this Venezuela situation, and now for all the people in the chat and the warm posse and out there that were called crazy because Venezuela, I'm not so sure you're going to be called crazy for too much longer. | ||
| But Todd, I'll get to that in a moment. | ||
| In Savannah, this acid attack, there's something broader going on. | ||
| We could play all kinds of clips from local news on other things going on. | ||
| The people, correct me if I'm wrong, the people in Savannah, because you run, I think, the Georgia record, one of the big news sites down there, the people in Savannah are calling for the president or somebody to send in the National Guard, that this is a combination of what we've seen before, the criminal element plus illegal aliens that are basically overwhelming the city, sir? | ||
| Yes, Steve, and I can break some news right now on your show. | ||
| We have a district attorney in Savannah who's putting together, drafting a letter for the president of the United States. | ||
| And I'm on the Pentagon Press course, so I'm going to deliver it also to Secretary Hegseth on Monday calling for the National Guard to be deployed to Savannah. | ||
| Savannah is a beautiful city. | ||
| I grew up there on an iconic island, Isle of Hope, off the coast. | ||
| It was the city Lincoln, Sherman gave Lincoln after the Civil War, the only city wasn't burned. | ||
| It's got a huge Irish community, the biggest St. Patrick's Day parade in the country. | ||
| But it's also a port city, Steve. | ||
| It's a big port of entry into the United States. | ||
| It's a big tourist destination, huge military presence. | ||
| I think this is a coordinated attack. | ||
| Where do you get this kind of chemical to give to a guy to throw on a white woman in the park? | ||
| Forsyth Park is a beautiful area. | ||
| But look, we have massive shootings. | ||
| We have tourists being attempted rapes. | ||
| We have huge drug issues, home invasions. | ||
| Oglethorpe Mall, massive shooting recently where a woman ran out because of the shooting, had a heart attack and died in the parking lot. | ||
| We got gang warfare. | ||
| This is right straight up of what President Trump is going after. | ||
| And we really need to pay attention to this because it's a national security issue more than just a tourist issue. | ||
| You said, you know, we just had Ben Burke on yesterday talking about Minneapolis versus New Orleans. | ||
| New Orleans is what, you know, got the national, they're trying to shut things down, support ICE, et cetera. | ||
| Is the prosecutor what you're saying? | ||
| He's sending a letter to the President of the United States requesting the National Guard there. | ||
| Why are local Georgian officials up to the state level? | ||
| Why is there not more movement? | ||
| And why is the media not looking at these different attacks that happen and pulling them together as that, hey, there's something serious going on here and something much more evil than just random occurrences of violence? | ||
| Georgia is the epicenter of everything, Steve. | ||
| It was one of the states, you know, in 2020 that was a huge issue. | ||
| Fulton County, they still haven't provided the ballots. | ||
| Harmonic Dillon just sued for the voter registration logs. | ||
| They still haven't provided them. | ||
| Raffensberger is preventing this. | ||
| Kemp is preventing this. | ||
| Kemp is, in my view, in bed with a lot of the globalist actors. | ||
| He goes to Davos often. | ||
| This is a globalist government in Savannah, and it's purposely allowing this crime to develop out of control. | ||
| It's an incredibly beautiful place, and we have to prevent this. | ||
| And I heard a citizen this morning who called me, We're becoming New Orleans. | ||
| We can't let that happen. | ||
| So there's just massive importance behind protecting this incredibly beautiful city. | ||
| I'm going to ask you to stick around because you've got some thoughts. | ||
| I'm about to get into some economics here. | ||
| And I know you're a former bond trader. | ||
| I want to get you back in here. | ||
| But before I let you bounce for this segment, tell me about the woman. | ||
| She had acid thrown in her face. | ||
| How serious? | ||
| Her in the hospital bed looks horrific. | ||
| Her whole face is bandaged. | ||
| I mean, how bad is this? | ||
| Steve, it's 50% of her body. | ||
| Her phone and clothes were melting, I'm told. | ||
| I mean, this is not a random chemical the guy got out of Walmart. | ||
| I mean, this is something I think that was provided to shut down tourism in this city. | ||
| I mean, you can't imagine the pain this woman is going through and the reaction in the town. | ||
| I mean, people, we have the Georgia record, georgiarecord.com. | ||
| Go there if you're interested in Georgia. | ||
| We have people calling us all night long. | ||
| You have to do something. | ||
| You have to get this out. | ||
| So we got the story national. | ||
| It was on the local news, but we broke it nationally. | ||
| And it has to be paid attention to because this is, you know, where this goes. | ||
| It leads to what's happening in New York and other cities across the country. | ||
| And particularly in Chicago, where we started with Rachel Maddow mocking people because the National Guard has been pulled back. | ||
| Todd, why don't you hang on a minute? | ||
| I'm going to get you back in here in a second on some other topics. | ||
| And Grace and Mo, if you can make sure we take this story from the record, Georgia record, and push it hard. | ||
| This is a national story. | ||
| Like Todd just said, breaking news said the prosecutors drafting a letter. | ||
| They sent it to the President of the United States to request the National Guard be sent into Savannah because of this out-of-control nature of things. | ||
| Okay, I want to pivot for a moment. | ||
| We're going to bring a bunch of people in here, kind of weave things together on the economy and capital markets, but I want to start with David Malpass. | ||
| David, you were one of the top most senior executives in the Treasury Department under President Trump. | ||
| You're head of the former head of the World Bank. | ||
| You've been putting up some stuff that I think people understand. | ||
| It's not getting enough coverage in the business media. | ||
| There's a whole apparatus in the Federal Reserve, as Scott Besson said a couple of months ago, it's completely out of control with Powell. | ||
| Tell me what's happened here in the last couple of days. | ||
| I think only you've brought up how they're trying to thwart really President Trump's nationalist economic plan, sir. | ||
| Hi, Steve. | ||
| The Federal Reserve is growing in every way. | ||
| So they're growing their balance sheet. | ||
| But what they did on Thursday was to reappoint 11 of the regional Fed presidents. | ||
| These are these big banks that are around the country that run various parts of the Federal Reserve system. | ||
| There's one in Atlanta, one in Denver, excuse me, in Kansas City, and so on in Dallas around the country. | ||
| And they said they gave early extension, five-year extensions to the contracts for those presidents. | ||
| That's just one of the things this week they did to grow. | ||
| You saw that they cut the interest rate, which is good, except it was three months or four months too late. | ||
| That's really expensive to taxpayers because the national debt is so large that every month that you wait costs money. | ||
| But one other thing they did again on Wednesday was announced they were going to start heavily buying treasury bills. | ||
| So we've got this Circular process where the government spends all the money, issues treasury bills, and the Federal Reserve buys the Treasury bills. | ||
| So they announced the purchases that I think started yesterday. | ||
| Are they doing that? | ||
| Well, first of all, let me go to the presidents. | ||
| Are you saying because Powell's tenure is running out and the president's going to announce either any day or early? | ||
| It's either it looks like it's come down to Kevin Worsch or Hassett, his NEC advisor, head of NEC, one of those two. | ||
| And I think even President Trump said yesterday, maybe Worsch is a little ahead in the run. | ||
| But was Powell obligated to wait for President Trump's new pick to get in there before renewing the contracts for these presidents of the different Federal Reserve banks? | ||
| Or was he obligated to do it at this meeting, which was the last meeting of this year? | ||
| Normally they do it later. | ||
| The new terms don't start until March 1st. | ||
| So they moved earlier than expected with the announcement on Thursday. | ||
| That locks in the votes on the Federal Open Market Committee. | ||
| That's the board where the Fed uses that board to set interest rates. | ||
| And they just themselves named 11 of the members that will be on a 19-member board. | ||
| So they just locked in a majority really for the next five years. | ||
| It'll be hard to remove those presidents. | ||
| And so then what that means is that as President Trump's growth program accelerates and brings faster growth, the Fed has a model that says that growth is bad because they think growth causes inflation. | ||
| We know that's not right. | ||
| Growth causes more production. | ||
| It causes more goods and services. | ||
| But in the Fed's model, they think it causes inflation. | ||
| So they'll be fighting Trump all year next year by keeping interest rates higher than they should be. | ||
| That's what they did this year in 2025. | ||
| They should have been cutting in June. | ||
| I did a big Wall Street Journal article in June saying they should cut in June, but they waited all the way until September. | ||
| So that means you're just compounding the interest on the national debt when you do that. | ||
| And now they've got the majority of the board. | ||
| It's the deep state really controlling things. | ||
| And Steve, I don't want people to forget the deep state extends into the globalism in almost every sphere. | ||
| It's continuing to make things bigger in Europe, in the international financial institutions that we've talked about here, the IMF and so on, getting big increases in their size. | ||
| So this is what Liz Truss is saying in her new effort in the United Kingdom saying, hey, she was turfed out by the Bank of England as a deep state that over in England is not MI5, MI6, or the Crown. | ||
| She argues it's the Bank of England and the central banks. | ||
| What you've just put out there a moment ago is exactly what President Trump has been arguing about. | ||
| It's not just that they miscalculate interest rates, but we just had a supply-side tax cut to drive growth, to make it to give big tax advantages, depreciation for plant and equipment now in period zero. | ||
| Plus, the whole tariff situation was to really drive, it was a forcing function to drive people to companies and countries to invest here for manufacturing. | ||
| You're saying at the, and this is what Trump's arguing, the Fed's fighting you every step of the way. | ||
| Do you believe they consciously put these 11 presidents back in for the five-year extensions before Trump announced his new head of the Fed, which would be logical, hey, maybe not late to March or see what, let's get Kevin Warsh or Hassett confirmed quickly in January and February. | ||
| Do you think they did it to thwart Trump and to set up a basic blocking function now at the Fed, that the president and his Federal Reserve Chief and the Secretary of Treasury are going to have a limited field of maneuver? | ||
| I think they're trying to lock in their models. | ||
| And so they wanted to get it done before a new chairman comes in, but also before the Supreme Court decides on the president's executive power. | ||
| You know, there's a big important decision coming down from the Fed on who the president can appoint. | ||
| And so that is coloring everything that's going on. | ||
| President Trump was really clear on, I think, December 10th, so a couple days ago, when he talked about the need for growth and he was complaining about the Fed leaning against growth. | ||
| What you described, Steve, was supply-side economics. | ||
| Remember, you have tax cuts, you have the trade that's changing, and you have very importantly the need for the Fed to be supportive or allow growth. | ||
| That was what helped Reagan so much in the early 1980s was the Federal Reserve was able to cut interest rates, even though the growth rate was going up. | ||
| But now we have the Fed locked into the idea of inflation targeting. | ||
| It's the opposite of supply-side economics. | ||
| What I want is a price rule where the Fed would be able to to give assurances on the dollar, and that would allow lower interest rates across the board. | ||
| But I think we're going to have. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I want you fully to explain this after a short mushroom. | ||
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| David Maupass, just continue on what you're saying, because this is the beating heart. | ||
| We talk about the midterms, 28. | ||
| I tell people, don't worry about worry about the economics right now and the bets that we've made, given the structure of the American economy. | ||
| So continue on, sir. | ||
| President Trump has put so much energy into a supply-side reform of the economy that's supposed to help people and small businesses. | ||
| He's deregulating the economy. | ||
| The Fed on Thursday reappointed itself by its own authority, 11 of the 12 regional presidents of the Fed banks across the country, and also 12 of the 12 first vice presidents. | ||
| So you've got the top two across the country that are locked in for another five years. | ||
| So they're Trump-proofing the Federal Reserve. | ||
| And that means that you're going to end up with rates higher and the dollar not as defended as it should be. | ||
| And the Fed's models, they don't defend the dollar. | ||
| And that means that the U.S. is at risk, at risk to foreign competition. | ||
| And I think the president should forcefully be asking people, how are we going to have the massive reforms? | ||
| He spent the time, remember, on the Federal Reserve buildings, talking about the $3 billion that are being constructed in Washington, D.C. for the buildings. | ||
| But then there hasn't been the follow-through to say the changes at the Fed need to promote growth. | ||
| Just give me your, you're someone he listens to, your two or three things. | ||
| If you're talking to him today, you say, Mr. President, I think in regards to the Fed and the structural issues, what do you recommend in the World Bank and IMF? | ||
| Because the globalists are circling, they're circling the Trump movement. | ||
| The Guardian's got a great story about the national security strategy, about how it came about. | ||
| And there's some expert from like the Center for Strategic Institute studies that says they're showing that MAGA is truly a revolutionary movement when we talk about Europe and the collapse of civilization there and our support of these resistance movements of President Trump and his administration. | ||
| The money side of this and the capital market side is actually much more important than that because kind of politics follows money. | ||
| What is your recommendation to the president? | ||
| For him to be aware that under the surface, people are working against what he's trying to achieve. | ||
| That's true in Europe, which you were talking about. | ||
| You know, they're continuing their regulations on climate. | ||
| They're making them extra-territorial. | ||
| That means they go after U.S. companies if the U.S. companies try to have free markets within Europe. | ||
| They have climate regulations that are tight. | ||
| And on the Federal Reserve side, you've got this sweeping initiative by the Fed to protect the votes on the board so that they can set the interest rates against growth, against Trump's growth. | ||
| He should be requesting and asking people, why are we doing this? | ||
| Why don't we have supply side price rule monetary policy installed in the Fed so that we can grow as a nation? | ||
| The Fed's been wrong so many times. | ||
| Why would you go and reappoint all of the people at the regional feds, the voting members of the Board of Governors? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| David, where can people get you? | ||
| You're putting up stuff on, particularly on Twitter, all the time that is not just insightful, but it comes in a little fiery. | ||
| Where do people go to follow you, sir? | ||
| At David R. Malpass, or they can just Google Malpass WSJ. | ||
| So my articles describe it. | ||
| And you were talking about globalism. | ||
| You know, globalism, I think, is still run amok. | ||
| All these institutions are getting bigger. | ||
| And I'm not sure the president's aware of that. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| We'll hold you back on and go through that. | ||
| The pieces are amazing. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| At David R. Malpass on X. Thank you, brother. | ||
| Thank you for taking time on Saturday to join us. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| I was going to go Josh Pettit in the data centers, but is Harnwell up? | ||
| I want to slide Harnwell in here. | ||
| We got a minute. | ||
| Is Ben Harnwell? | ||
| Not true. | ||
| We're going to hook him up. | ||
| Huge announcement today over in Europe. | ||
| I think it's Victor Orban, the great Victor Orban, says the EU has crossed the Rubicon. | ||
| What does he mean by that today? | ||
| I think they formally commenced the process for the freezing of the assets. | ||
| I think $300 billion or around the $300 billion of the Russian people's assets. | ||
| They began the process to basically freeze those. | ||
| And that is going to start a process for them to seize them and to use that either for the reconstruction of Ukraine or continue the war. | ||
| Now, why is this important? | ||
| Number one, we've talked about this for years. | ||
| It's one of the reasons other central banks are purchasing gold. | ||
| So I think you might put it in your back pocket on that as you go to Birch Gold and talk to Philip Patrick and the team and get the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| What David was talking about right there, the de-dollarization effort, part of this is going to be just people afraid of you're going to keep your money in dollars or in Euros while they're doing this. | ||
| Also, the Russians, I think Medaviv and Putin have been pretty clear. | ||
| You take that money and you use that money against us to get arms and weapons on the battlefield and or to do a reconstruction with the Russians people's money. | ||
| They've said, I think, pretty clearly, that's an act of war. | ||
| President Trump's moved heaven and earth to try the story out today. | ||
| Erdogan's met with Putin. | ||
| They think they may have some sort of deal in hand or close. | ||
| President Trump's given a Christmas cutoff, but you take their money. | ||
| That's basically a big part of their cash net worth. | ||
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They said that is an act of war. | |
| When Orban says you've crossed the Rubicon or you're beginning to put your foot in to cross it, people should listen. | ||
| Victor Orban is a very wise and smart man. | ||
| This European situation, as we've warned about, spinning, spinning, spinning out of control. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Second hour is even more packed than the first. | ||
| Stick around on a Saturday. | ||
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