Nov. 26, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| and retribution campaign has a new target, six of them actually. | ||
| The lawmakers who served our country honorably and bravely and dared to tell members of the United States military something that would in normal times be totally normal and totally obvious, that it is their duty to refuse to carry out any illegal orders. | ||
| This afternoon, one of those lawmakers, Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan, who before becoming a member of that body, served as a CIA analyst. | ||
| And as a CIA analyst, she went to Iraq. | ||
| She also served in the Pentagon during both the Bush and Obama presidencies. | ||
| She today announced that she believes she is under investigation by the FBI's counterterrorism division because she appeared in that video that has clearly sent Donald Trump into some sort of rage. | ||
| Donald Trump saying that what she did was, quote, punishable by death. | ||
| In fact, a source from Millier tells us that the FBI is now working to schedule interviews with Slotkin and the five other Democrats who appear in that video, urging U.S. service members simply to not comply with any illegal order. | ||
| The source telling MS Now that the FBI has contacted Capitol Police to try to schedule these interviews. | ||
| Ahead of that news, FBI Director Kash Patel was asked about the video. | ||
| Here's what he said. | ||
| Democratic lawmakers released a video calling on military personnel to defy illegal orders. | ||
| President Trump waited in and called it a seditious behavior. | ||
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When you saw this, went through your head. | |
| What goes through my head is the same thing that goes through my head in any case. | ||
| Is there a lawful predicate to open up an inquiry and investigation or is there not? | ||
| And that decision will be made by the career agents and analysts here at the FBI. | ||
| Is the FBI getting involved? | ||
| Based on the fact that it's an ongoing matter, there's not much I can say. | ||
| Pete Hegses, Pentagon, also getting in on the action by launching an investigation into Arizona Senator Mark Kelly for his participation in the video. | ||
| Heg said, threatened the decorated veteran and war hero last night with being called back into active duty status so that he could possibly be court-martialed. | ||
| So what do you make of the situation right now and Kelly's response? | ||
| Well, good for the senator to say what he said, but let me take a step back and indicate that what he and his colleagues did was inappropriate. | ||
| They didn't have to remind service members that they have an obligation to support the Constitution and realizing, of course, that officers and enlisted personnel take two different oaths. | ||
| And the enlisted personnel, this is a message that those Congress members and members of the intelligence, former intelligence community, sent to the service members. | ||
| And it was to those enlisted folks, which is, you can disobey your bosses. | ||
| You can do that. | ||
| Well, the point of, the fact of the matter is, when Senator Kelly and his colleagues made the comment, the message to me was, we, this collection of folks, we don't trust the military, the uniformed leadership, and we think that they've been taken over by the administration. | ||
| I would completely disagree with that underlying assessment, which brought them to make these statements. | ||
| That's my view of all this. | ||
| God bless Senator Kelly and what he's accomplished in his life and where he has been. | ||
| Totally agree with everything he just said. | ||
| However, he could have taken a step back and said, why am I making, why am I sending this message, which clearly is an insult to our chain of command, those in uniform, folks that I have had the privilege of serving with and training and growing into the positions that they're in today. | ||
| And I think he could have made a better decision. | ||
| And, you know, we've been saying this for a long time. | ||
| A lot of us have been saying this for a long time. | ||
| Donald Trump believes that the U.S. military should be his personal muscle. | ||
| It should be his personal militia that answers only to him, not to Congress, not to the Constitution, not to the American people. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| Donald Trump thinks that Article II means he owns the military like he owns buildings or owns anything else. | ||
| And this is an attempt by him and others to say to members of Congress and to all American citizens that you have no right to express your views about the military or the Constitution or your own freedoms. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Tuesday, 26 November, Year of Our Lord 2025. | ||
| We are packed in this hour, and it's going to be a cross between action, proposed action, and strongly worded letters, at least for part of it. | ||
| So just bear with us and see how we're trending on all these actions against the deep state. | ||
| Let me start with Dr. Bradley Thayer first. | ||
| So it's come out: Kash Patel and the FBI are calling people in as they should immediately for interviews. | ||
| I hope that's under oath and leads to quite rapidly charges being brought. | ||
| And also Mark Kelly, you heard General, I think, Hurling right there. | ||
| He was kind of confused, but he said it's a total insult to the military to do with these guys and totally inappropriate. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, why is it important that we must take dramatic and immediate action on this, sir, and not dither? | ||
| Because the great strength of our civil-military relations, what's called objective civilian control, which is where civilians order the military what to do. | ||
| The military obeys. | ||
| The military has its own domain. | ||
| The military deals with military decisions of its own accord, but obeys civilian leadership. | ||
| And that's been the great strength of the U.S. military, as well as all professional militaries, and has led to tremendous military success, our professionalization. | ||
| And that's unlike, for example, the Chinese Communist Party, which controls the People's Liberation Army, or in the Cold War, where the Communist Party of the Soviet Union controlled the Red Army, the Soviet Army. | ||
| They were politicized forces. | ||
| So what these six have done is done their utmost, not just to sow discord, right? | ||
| That would be bad enough, but they're undermining objective civilian control. | ||
| They're undermining the heart of the most successful civil military relationship that's existed in history. | ||
| And for that, they have to be held to account. | ||
| They cannot do that. | ||
| That's something which undermines our military effectiveness, that undermines the loyalty and calls into question the loyalty, of course, of all service members. | ||
| It's outrageous on its face, but it gets to something which is very deep, which is undermining the heart of civil-military relations. | ||
| Even more so, Steve. | ||
| But hang on a second. | ||
| I want to get to that. | ||
| Number one, that came from the Army was founded in 1775, and General Washington always answered to and made a point of knowing, even though they were stiffing him, there was no money, it was a complete fiasco, especially in the early part of the war. | ||
| He always made sure that everybody knew he reported to the Continental Congress, and particularly the committee that oversaw the military. | ||
| He went out of his way. | ||
| The only other time I think we've had a crisis like this is in the Civil War when McClellan, there was an active beginning of a coup against President Lincoln by McClellan and his staff, and President Lincoln cleaned that out. | ||
| But there was this hint of a coup of a military coup where they were not going to report to civilian authority. | ||
| This is a deep crisis. | ||
| This is why this has to be dealt with immediately. | ||
| And I think recalling Kelly to active duty and court-martialing him, as Captain Finnell said today, he was the senior officer in this, and you ought to be dealt with. | ||
| Continue on, Dr. Thayer. | ||
| Well, all of them should be dealt with. | ||
| Certainly, Senator Kelly should be, but this can't stand. | ||
| This is something which undermines what is essential for our national security. | ||
| It undermines the service men and women in our country. | ||
| So it can't stand because what it is doing is getting at the heart of how our civilian leadership controls the military and, in turn, how the military serves that civilian leadership. | ||
| And so what they have done is done their utmost to undermine that. | ||
| And it's the pattern that we see with the Democrats at this time, right? | ||
| It gets back to their Leninist tactics, right, to advance what they call revolutionary defeatism, right? | ||
| They want things to be as bad as possible, right? | ||
| The worse, the better for the Democrats to undermine Trump, to checkmate him, to fetter him at every step, as a way, of course, of undermining the U.S. | ||
| So what they're doing is, again, the most successful civil-military relationship that's existed in history has been U.S. civil military relationship. | ||
| It's gone through ups and downs, Steve. | ||
| As you mentioned, we could more recently recall Vietnam and the stresses that Vietnam placed on the U.S. military in the aftermath of Vietnam, where in the 1970s, for example, where we talked about a hollow force. | ||
| The Army rebuilt itself, as did all of the armed services, because they were supremely professional. | ||
| So, what these six are doing is undermining that. | ||
| And that is something which is unpatriotic. | ||
| That is something which is supremely dangerous. | ||
| And it is a way of putting the U.S. military on the course to becoming a politicized force, like you would have in China. | ||
| It's also a crime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it is a crime. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I mean, the FBI. | ||
| It's a crime. | ||
| I mean, the FBI will get to the heart of that as well as others. | ||
| Why Senate ethics has not stepped up here or House ethics is obviously a question. | ||
| Yeah, I know, but House Ethics, you got Republicans, you got the Senate. | ||
| These are crimes that have to be dealt with as crimes. | ||
| We have to put this down. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, we got to move on. | ||
| Where do people go to get your analysis on all this? | ||
| Sure, Steve. | ||
| Thanks very much. | ||
| Brad Thurrod X and Bradley Therod Getter and Truth. | ||
| Thanks for starting us off, Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Also, I might add, I think I'll link. | ||
| Glenn Beck is doing an incredible job on this very topic over at the Blaze, and we'll link to some of his commentary and analysis. | ||
| Julie Kelly, this afternoon, you've been following this situation where they're trying to bring criminal contempt charges around President Trump and his people. | ||
| And Julie Kelly called shot. | ||
| You said Emil Bovey is one of their targets. | ||
| And lo and behold, Emil Bovey is one of their targets, ma'am. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So as I explained this morning, we were waiting today for mandatory filings per Judge Jeb Bosberg related to his criminal contempt proceedings against the DOJ and the Trump administration. | ||
| So what he asked for today was both sides, the ACLU, who is representing those illegal Venezuelans tied to Trende Aragua, who were covered under the President's Alien Enemies Act proclamation, and then from the Department of Justice, who they would want, number one, as witnesses in any contempt hearing, and then dates for a hearing for those witnesses to testify. | ||
| So as of right now, 5:15 Eastern Time, the Trump administration has not filed its response to Jeb Bossberg, which I'm sure is making him really steamed, but I think is kind of funny. | ||
| But the ACLU did, and they list numerous DOJ, even DHS officials who they want to testify sworn testimony about behind-the-scenes deliberations before, on, and after Jeb Bossberg made that ridiculous oral order, he calls it, to return planes to planes carrying these illegal Venezuelans that were already out of U.S. airspace on the evening of March 15th of this year, | ||
| ordered those planes returned. | ||
| So, this is the basis of his contempt finding. | ||
| And some of this, a lot of it, actually, Jeb Bossberg brought this up himself last week in the hearing, relates to this alleged whistleblower, Erez Rubini, who is a DOJ immigration official, | ||
| who made these claims about comments that Amel Bovey had made as the, I think at that point, acting deputy attorney general, and what they wanted to say to the courts if judges tried to thwart and stop the implementation of the Alien Enemies Act proclamation. | ||
| So, this whistleblower account, you and I have talked about it. | ||
| I have coverage of it on my Substack declassified with Julie Kelly. | ||
| I reposted my piece about this whistleblower from earlier this year. | ||
| Bosberg himself last year, last week, brought up the whistleblower and saying he wanted to hear from the whistleblower and everyone the whistleblower had spoken to about this and other immigration lawsuits that the DOLE was handling at the time. | ||
| Just hang on one second, we're a short commercial break. | ||
| Julie Kelly on the other side. | ||
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| Julie Kelly, is the Trump administration showing some contempt for Bosberg by not like snapping to and say, sir, yes, sir, and making sure, I guess it should have been five o'clock today, the time of Rashaw would then close the business. | ||
| Maybe it's midnight. | ||
| But they're not rushing. | ||
| They're not being bum rushed into this, are they, ma'am? | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| And that's exactly what Jeb Bosberg is trying to do. | ||
| Recall, Steve, that his original probable cause finding was last April, where he accused the Trump administration of contempt of court for defying that oral order. | ||
| That was vacated by the appellate court. | ||
| However, it was kicked back to Bosberg just last week, and he did not waste a minute restarting these proceedings. | ||
| So perhaps the Trump administration, the DOJ, is going to just file a one-pager later tonight and say we have no potential witnesses. | ||
| We don't think that this contempt hearing is legal and we're not offering up any dates for a hearing and let Jeb Bosberg work from there. | ||
| Keep in mind, Steve, also, we just found out today that Jeb Bosberg signed off on 19, 19 gag orders, non-disclosure orders, prohibiting cell phone carriers from notifying sitting U.S. senators and members of Congress that Jack Smith had subpoenaed their cell phone records. | ||
| So as his corruption and his malfeasance continues to get exposed, he is not backing off. | ||
| He is actually ramping up and accelerating his judicial crusade against the Trump administration. | ||
| He's doubling down. | ||
| Go to Article 3 Project right now and get all the information about getting to your Congressman or Senator about the impeachment of Bosberg. | ||
| It has to happen. | ||
| Also check in with Grace on Bill Blaster. | ||
| We've got two major weapons to do this. | ||
| Bosberg has to be impeached. | ||
| Last question, the ACLU, they understand they want to go after Emil Bovey because he's a sitting, we took him out of the Justice Department, which God knows we needed him. | ||
| But he was so important, they put him in appellate court because he's on the short list of the Supreme Court. | ||
| Don't they want to sit there? | ||
| What they want to do is put a blowtorch to Emil Bovey to use this false proceeding, this phony proceeding, to make sure they ding him for his Supreme Court confirmation hearing. | ||
| Do they not, ma'am? | ||
| They absolutely do. | ||
| And this was what this whistleblower, Ariz Ravini, and I actually would like to see Mr. Ravini testify under oath about these alleged conversations that he was involved in or overheard. | ||
| But the point is to drag Aimel Bove again through the mud. | ||
| This almost successfully disrailed, derailed Amel Bove's confirmation process. | ||
| I think he got exactly 50 votes or 51. | ||
| So this almost torpedoed his judicial nomination to the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. | ||
| And to your point, yes, he is towards the top of the list to be Supreme Court Justice. | ||
| He's the last person the left and Democrats would want on the Supreme Court because, of course, he's very sharp, very smart, shrewd, and he understands what this battle is all about. | ||
| So, yes, this is going to be another attempt to drag his name through the mud as he's sitting on the Third Circuit Court of Appeals. | ||
| Julie, where do people go for your Substack? | ||
| Where do they go for your social media accounts? | ||
| You are on fire, ma'am. | ||
| And a couple of great cold shots on this one. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack X on Julie underscore Kelly 2. | ||
| I will keep refreshing the docket for this Bossberg contempt proceeding. | ||
| And if the DOJ, the government does respond later, I will be posting it as soon as I get it. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Okay, I said earlier today, I said, so go to Julie Kelly's Substack, watch it. | ||
| I said today, you've got these, you've got Michael Benz, you got Alex Jones, you've got Natalie Wins, and a couple of dozen more that do an amazing job of breaking down the deep state of all the taproots. | ||
| But you've got to get in and do the wet work. | ||
| If you want to take it down, you can defund it, you can do that. | ||
| But at some point in time, like what's happening on the FBI, you got to get in there with Julie Kelly's doing in this huge fight on Bosberg. | ||
| And we have to impeach this guy. | ||
| We have to put him through the process. | ||
| Ivan Reikland joins us now. | ||
| He and General Flynn are working on something about Tina Peters. | ||
| We got to raise up the Tina Peters. | ||
| And it's going to take maniacal focus. | ||
| Ivan, what have you and General Flynn come up with, sir? | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, you nailed it on the head yesterday. | ||
| I think at this point, it requires political courage to extract her because we all know that they're going to maneuver in every which way possible, they being Polis and Jenna Griswold and the radical left to keep her as a political prisoner, a prisoner of war effectively. | ||
| And so when you look at the perspective of what the Democrats have done over the last 11 years of treason, effectively, as seditious conspirators, they don't ask a court to, and they don't pontificate and ask themselves, hmm, I wonder if the Supreme Court or a district court is going to allow us to conduct treason. | ||
| No, they actually just conduct it. | ||
| And then we have to claw our way back to stop them from conducting it. | ||
| It would be very novel for a Republican administration to say, you know what? | ||
| This is lawful. | ||
| This is our legal analysis. | ||
| We're going to go ahead and file, for example, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Colorado, I believe it's Peter McNeely, he can go ahead and file federal criminal charges against Jenna Griswold for her violation of the 2020 elect the procedure of the 2020 election. | ||
| And then from there, once that is filed, literally within the same second, the president could order the attorney general, Pam Bondi, to then order the director of the federal marshals program, Guy Adiz Seralta, the director, and then he could muster all 4,000 or so of his federal marshals to conduct a physical raid on the La Vista congressional similar to the raid that was done on Marlborough. | ||
| Whoa, whoa, hang on, Before we get to the raid, let's go back to charging her. | ||
| You and General Flynn propose the information that we have now. | ||
| Do you believe that there is existing information out there and evidence that could lead the U.S. Attorney to do that, sir? | ||
| So Mike Lindell and his attorney at the time, Mr. Kurt Olson, have put together quite a bit of evidence related to the 2020 electoral heist that Tina Peters could be a federal witness for. | ||
| That's what I feel to be skipping over that. | ||
| But no, but yeah, but hang on, hang on. | ||
| You nailed it right there. | ||
| If memory serves me correctly, Ivan, Kurt Olson is now the special envoy or the special assistant in the White House complex, I think, over at EOB, reporting, I think, to Susie. | ||
| I think it's a direct report up to the chief of staff. | ||
| This is what a priority is for the president to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| So have you got to get to the electoral heist? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And to do it, by the way, as you know, he's principally a machine guy. | ||
| We're not. | ||
| We're mail-in ballot guys. | ||
| But hey, God bless you. | ||
| So my point is, the very guy that you and Flynn name and kind of your punchlist to how you have to do it, voila, is not hosting a show on Lindell TV. | ||
| He actually happens to be in the, what's called the White House infrastructure. | ||
| And his specific designation is the special assistant for the election integrity about the 2020 election. | ||
| So if you and General Flynn reach out to him, because if he has the evidence from his years at Lindell, you're saying this is the path, critical path you have to do. | ||
| He's the guy. | ||
| It's kind of a plug and play, is it not? | ||
| There's no one better positioned to expose the evidence of the 2020 electoral heist in the entire country, as well as the 2022 electoral heist in Arizona as it relates to Kerry Lake than Kurt Olson. | ||
| He's represented, as far as I understand, the president, Mike Lindell in those lawsuits, as well as Kerry Lake. | ||
| So this is an absolutely fantastic pick of the number one draft pick for the president to pick to be able to expose this. | ||
| Additionally, he has years of experience exposing the Colorado component, Mesa County. | ||
| Just to contextualize, Tina Peters was the only county official of the 3,100 plus counties and county equivalents throughout the United States to actually have the courage to expose, research, identify, and then expose the illegal activities of the machines in her county's 2020 election, the federal election component of it. | ||
| And so that's why she would be the most compelling witness of anybody in the country to go ahead and prove the criminality of Janet Roswald. | ||
| It'd be amazing. | ||
| Grace put up his General Flynn's tweet. | ||
| I'll have you back right after the holidays, Ivan, to go through this some more, but I think you've laid out a pattern. | ||
| You just got to get Chris. | ||
| It'd be nice to get her out for Thanksgiving, though. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| I think it's very remote. | ||
| I mean, realistically. | ||
| And I talk to these people every day. | ||
| We got to get her out, though. | ||
| Ivan, where do people go? | ||
| What's your social media, your Twitter? | ||
| Where do people go to follow you? | ||
| I'm on X as long as your buddy Elon Musk allows me. | ||
| But other than that, Substack, as well as Rumble. | ||
| Ivan, with a heckle. | ||
| Ivan, with a heckle, brother. | ||
| Have a great Thanksgiving. | ||
| Love you. | ||
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| Ivan Reichland. | ||
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The guy Ivan was outside federal court every day that I was there. | |
| He is a warrior and a patriot. | ||
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| Back in the worm in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
| Okay, Ivan's idea, I like it a lot directionally. | ||
| I want everybody to read that. | ||
| Grace and Moe, if you can push that out, let's be a force multiplier. | ||
| This is General Flynn and Ivan. | ||
| Ivan's also a lawyer. | ||
| We got to get on top of this. | ||
| And like I said, Kurt Olson, you guys know who've had Kurt on a hundred times during the big steal. | ||
| He knows this better than anybody. | ||
| He's at the White House. | ||
| He's a special assistant for election integrity in reviewing the 2020 in the 2022 election. | ||
| So, right there, you just plug and play and let's get on with it. | ||
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| Joe Allen, we have a cold open. | ||
| They signed an executive order and they did it with closed press. | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood has a few kinks in it. | ||
| Laura Loomer is going to join us tomorrow. | ||
| Alex Jones is going to join us tomorrow. | ||
| Laura's going to walk through the EO on the Muslim Brotherhood, why it has a few air pockets and it needs to be kind of reconciled. | ||
| It's a start. | ||
| It's a historic start, but we got to close. | ||
| We got to stick the landing on the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| Also, artificial intelligence. | ||
| I've warned you about the weapons labs. | ||
| They did AI and it was closed press. | ||
| I don't know why, but we're going to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Let's play the cold open. | ||
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The Trump administration is pushing to expand AI and federal scientific research. | |
| Yesterday, President Trump signed an executive order launching the Genesis mission. | ||
| The plan allows Department of Energy and National Labs to use AI while partnering with tech companies and universities. | ||
| Yeah, he signed an executive order related to what's called the now Genesis mission. | ||
| It brings together all of the 17 federal labs under the Department of Energy and partners them with private companies and supercharges all of these projects with artificial intelligence. | ||
| This is the one place in the world where you can bring together biological data, national security data, data for material science, for chemistry, all in one place under one roof where you can train models to accelerate scientific discovery. | ||
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Knowledge grows faster than our ability to understand it. | |
| Trillions of data points. | ||
| A universe of information still unconnected. | ||
| Now, a new instrument emerges. | ||
| One capable not only of observing the universe, but of understanding it. | ||
| Genesis mission will transform how science is done in America. | ||
| Uniting our brightest minds, most powerful computers, and vast scientific data into one living system for discovery. | ||
| Built on artificial intelligence and quantum computing, it will radically redefine the scale, speed, and purpose of scientific progress in America. | ||
| Look, I understand the scientific process. | ||
| We're all for it. | ||
| We want to do it, but I don't know why we're selling chips to the advanced chips of the Chinese. | ||
| And you got the arms dealer Jensen Wong, and you got Lutnik in his crowd that are trying to force the sale of these chips. | ||
| We're not in an arms race. | ||
| We're only in the arms race if we want to be in an arms race. | ||
| We don't have to sell them any arms. | ||
| None. | ||
| How about this? | ||
| How about zero for the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| Now, let's get to the weapons labs. | ||
| Joe Allen, succinctly tell me, because this kind of scares me, one living organism that's going to know all and be all. | ||
| What are we doing here, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, yesterday, President Trump signed the executive order to launch the Genesis mission. | ||
| Aside from the symbolic undertones of the name Genesis, this is under the Department of Energy and it's being held as a kind of Manhattan project for AI acceleration in the sciences. | ||
| The ultimate objective is to create scientific foundation models, AIs, that are specifically trained on what have previously been kind of cloistered and unpublished data sets and studies under the Department of Energy. | ||
| So the 17 national laboratories will open up their data sets to train artificial intelligence. | ||
| And the objective too is to have AI agents that can run autonomously to conduct experiments. | ||
| And presumably, they share many of the ambitions of the frontier labs. | ||
| They would eventually have AIs that perhaps could formulate novel hypotheses. | ||
| Now, underneath this is that you have five basic objectives to accelerate biotechnology, to accelerate materials development, to accelerate semiconductor production and deployment, and also to accelerate quantum computing and nuclear technology. | ||
| Okay, okay, okay. | ||
| The last time I looked, those five were kind of a variation of the Chinese Communist Party's, you know, 2020, manufacturing 2025, the 10 industries they want to dominate, the top five, and those are close to it, drive you to a thing called the singularity, do they not, sir? | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, this is right now very much in the nascent phase. | ||
| For the first 90 days, they'll simply be assessing what hardware, what computing facilities are relevant. | ||
| Beyond that, the software. | ||
| But within a year, they intend to have fully autonomous experiments being run under this system. | ||
| Now, this is already happening in the private sector, Steve. | ||
| I'll give you one really good example. | ||
| Ginkgo Bioworks, who was so integral to the Biden EO on the cancer moonshot, Ginkgo Bioworks runs bio foundries, right? | ||
| So you have these foundries that basically run autonomously, mutating microbes and assessing whether or not the mutations are effective and whatnot. | ||
| Some of these bio foundries are right now under the direction of GPT-5. | ||
| So you already have this integration of artificial intelligence with autonomous laboratories that are conducting experiments. | ||
| What the Genesis mission would ultimately yield would be that across all of the different sectors I just mentioned, and a lot relating to, of course, national security and weapons. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In those 90 days, what I would propose, and we'll stick our nose in this, is we come up with the equity package. | ||
| You, the citizens of the United States, own those. | ||
| The government of the United States owns those weapons labs, some of the most famous labs in the world, the national labs, they call them now. | ||
| If we're going to do all this, I'd like to know what we're actually paying for. | ||
| And these guys own the equity. | ||
| We have to have an equity package. | ||
| I'm going to toss out there just as an initial idea for David Sachs and Mark Andreessen to get their arms around, 50%. | ||
| We own 50% of every one of the AI companies. | ||
| The American citizens own them. | ||
| And I don't mean the government. | ||
| I mean the shares get popped out to the American citizens. | ||
| Because once again, once again, remember they came up with this labs thing immediately when the Chinese did deep seek and they go, oh my God, it's a sputnik moment. | ||
| We're in an arms race with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| So what do we do? | ||
| We sell them as many advanced chips as possible or give them to the UAE so that they can be a wholesaler and then resell them. | ||
| No, We got to understand this entire cycle. | ||
| The American people are being asked to secure debt. | ||
| The American people are being asked to give access to their weapons labs to train these. | ||
| Hey, that's fine. | ||
| Maybe it's good. | ||
| It sounds like a wonderful thing. | ||
| What's the payment to the American people? | ||
| American citizens own how much equity. | ||
| So in the 90 days, they assess what the ownership of the American people and the opening bid is 50%. | ||
| Joe, we got a bounce. | ||
| You're going to be with us a lot. | ||
| Tell us where people go to get all your information on JoeBot. | ||
| Well, I tell you, Steve, I couldn't agree more as far as the 50% equity for American people. | ||
| This emphasis on the machine should definitely be shared by or redirected towards human beings, as in human Americans. | ||
| I would actually just direct the audience to Frontier Magazine. | ||
| By chance, I have an article in Frontier, which goes into the history of the nuclear project, the Manhattan Project, near my hometown, Oak Ridge, Tennessee. | ||
| I'm from near there. | ||
| The title is How My Hometown Got Eugenicized. | ||
| And you can see it's a print magazine. | ||
| It's absolutely beautiful. | ||
| Ben Braddock here with a cover story, his trip. | ||
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| This is the one that Denn Beck and his team over at the Blaze started. | ||
| Is that it? | ||
| Is that Frontier? | ||
| Yes, Peter Giedel is the executive editor, and James Poulos, of course, is involved. | ||
| Ben Braddock with the cover story. | ||
| And they invited me to write about how my hometown got wrecked by the technological revolution. | ||
| So you can actually find a link right at the top of my social media at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. | ||
| And if you still love print culture, posse, this is a beautiful, beautiful edition. | ||
| Volume five, volume four. | ||
| No, no, we love magazines. | ||
| We talk about maggots creating being, you know, creating art and creating, you know, these alternative medias. | ||
| Go check this out right now. | ||
| Where do they go to Frontier just to check out the entire magazine? | ||
| Because I want people to do that. | ||
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| Because it's kind of a convoluted link. | ||
| I don't have it at the top of my head, but if you go to my social media at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z on X or on Gitter, there's a link right there. | ||
| You can subscribe. | ||
| You can read it in digital form. | ||
| But again, I really recommend get the print edition. | ||
| So many excellent articles in here. | ||
| So many great photographs. | ||
| Brother, love you. | ||
| Look, I'll talk to you tonight. | ||
| Hopefully, get you back on tomorrow maybe before you take off. | ||
| Joe Allen, the Joe Allen. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| The Genesis mission. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I get the symbolism. | ||
| Also about the singularity. | ||
| I get that too. | ||
| Got a drill done on this. | ||
| Looks very interesting, very exciting. | ||
| The American people love it. | ||
| They want to own 50% of it because they deserve. | ||
| They're putting up the money. | ||
| Raymond Ibrahim, my favorite. | ||
| Now, brother, it's a three-book series. | ||
| You've been with us since 2019, since we started the show with your first book, Sword and Scimitar. | ||
| Then you came out with the classic, I think in 22, Defenders of the West, which I had a small part in, and the fact that I helped Raymond decide the final cover art. | ||
| And then you've come up with a blockbuster about the Warrior Marks, Two Swords of Christ. | ||
| Talk to us today. | ||
| Particularly, I had you and Joe back to back because of these two executive orders signed yesterday. | ||
| You're an expert on the Muslim Brotherhood, and you've been a great writer about the history of Christianity in Islam. | ||
| And to be blunt about it, your histories, the third part being the Two Swords of Christ, is about really the warrior kind of interactions between Christianity and Islam since the founding of Islam. | ||
| Is it not, sir? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, Steve. | ||
| That's exactly what it's about. | ||
| Think the important point of the two swords of Christ, the new book, is that it literally looks at the two swords of Christ, the verse where the disciples, after Christ tells them, sell your cloak and buy a garment, he who has no sword. | ||
| And they say, look, Lord, here are two swords. | ||
| And he says, that's enough. | ||
| Now, according to modern day Christian theologians, that verse means absolutely nothing because it doesn't mean anything about swords and so forth. | ||
| But for the medieval Christians and especially the crusaders, it actually meant that there are two swords to be used against two sorts of evil, spiritual evil, which modern day Christians still acknowledge, but also physical, secular, material, corporeal, evil, human evil, human agency. | ||
| And so that's how they understood it. | ||
| And that's why I think it's ironic and people will be surprised when they look at the read the book that it actually, this logic actually showed you how the most pious men, these men were monks, essentially, okay, were also the most militant at the same time. | ||
| And there was no contradiction between the twain in their minds because they understood that what they were doing was in defense of Christ, Christendom, Christ's body, literally, the church. | ||
| And they were regularly martyred and they were seen as martyrs. | ||
| So I think it's going to be a very different take for most, how most modern day Christians, including of the doormat variety, as I've dubbed them, who believe that their job is just to be a doormat and be walked all over because that's what Christ apparently wants, to see that, no, you actually had these extremely pious Christian men who are also more militant than any other character from history. | ||
| And as far as the Muslim Brotherhood and what we're talking about today, I think it's the continuity is really remarkable when you see. | ||
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| Hang on. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Raymond Ibrahim on the other side. | ||
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| We're going to have more about artificial intelligence on tomorrow's show. | ||
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| Raymond Ibrahim, one of the reasons I love these books and they're so timely, they talk about history, but they make history present. | ||
| Right now, we just designate the Muslim or started to designate, we didn't do it, the Muslim Brotherhood, a terrorist organization. | ||
| Texas has done it. | ||
| We're in a fight now, as you know, and have chronicled. | ||
| They believed in a church militant. | ||
| Why is a church militant and two warrior monk orders from, I don't know, a thousand years ago, why are they relevant today? | ||
| And you need to read this book if you want to understand the situation we're in today, sir. | ||
| Steve, without the church militants, Christianity would have died out a long time ago. | ||
| And, you know, I have a quote, I think, in Defenders of the West from Teddy Roosevelt, president, who says exactly that. | ||
| He says, he basically says if the Europeans, the Christians of Europe had not fought back, he specifically names the Muslims and he names all the long centuries, Christianity would have been snuffed out. | ||
| And that's what most modern day Christians don't realize, especially those who sort of, you know, poo-poo the modern day crusaders or the crusaders of history and say they weren't real Christians. | ||
| If it wasn't for all the blood that they spilled on behalf of Christendom, there would be no Christianity, to be honest with you. | ||
| And that's very self-evident when you realize that three quarters of the Christian world was conquered and swallowed up till this very day by Islam. | ||
| And I'm speaking, of course, of the older, richer, more profound region where Christendom was located, and that would be North Africa and the Middle East. | ||
| You know, all that was left was Rome in the West, but Constantinople, Alexandria, Jerusalem, and Antioch were all swallowed up by Islam and it continued century after century. | ||
| And so that's what gave rise. | ||
| You know, these people weren't militants by nature. | ||
| They really were monks. | ||
| Think about the hospitalers, for example. | ||
| Their whole life was to be hospice workers and serving pilgrims and helping them and taking care of their medical needs and feeding them and giving them their beds. | ||
| But at the same time, they also learned that the only way to really help the pilgrims was to go on the offense and preempt what was going to happen, which is an Islamic attack on these pilgrims who were coming to Europe. | ||
| So they had no problem wedding, you know, Christian theology with militancy. | ||
| And not just them, actually. | ||
| This goes all the way back, remember to Augustine and so many other. | ||
| I quote a lot extensively, Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, who's really the spiritual father of all military orders. | ||
| And he gives you all the verses and he shows you the militancy behind it. | ||
| And it's not just the Old Testament, by the way, as we saw with the two swords of Christ in Luke. | ||
| So I think if modern day Christians, like I said, I call them doormats. | ||
| And of course, Christianity teaches love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance, but it's being pulled out of context as if that's all there is to it. | ||
| What's great about Christianity is that it tempered with violence, but it still kept the necessary forms of violence and justice, such as just war theory, which all, of course, fused into what we know as chivalry. | ||
| And that's what made it really great. | ||
| But now we have this kind of mood where, oh, you can't do anything. | ||
| You have to be a doormat and so forth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm announcing we're going to do a complete hour with Raymond to go through his whole three-part arc of his story of these three books and give special attention to the military orders, the two swords of Christ. | ||
| Everybody go to where they go to order it right now, Raymond. | ||
| Where do they go to your site for your writings and to order your books? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Well, they can get it on Amazon. | ||
| Today's the release date, actually. | ||
| So if they order it now, probably on Amazon, they'll get it maybe in a day or two. | ||
| And from any other online stores, my imagine, I doubt Barnes and Nobles is going to have it, even though it's a bestseller. | ||
| And also my website, raymondibrahim.com, has links to various books, and you can also get signed copies from there. | ||
| We're going to do an hour special with Raymond next week. | ||
| Raymond Abraham, thank you. | ||
| Thank you so much, brother. | ||
| I appreciate and love the book already. | ||
| It's just fantastic. | ||
| Want everybody to get it, particularly if you got a young man in your life, give it to him. | ||
| Understand the church militant. | ||
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