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Nov. 19, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4937: The Arms Race Over AI; Polling Shows The Right Need A Wakeup Call
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brian harrison
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richard baris
07:03
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steve bannon
21:18
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alex tabet
01:18
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david rohde
01:14
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joe scarborough
02:06
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marc elias
01:30
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maya wiley
01:17
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michelle morrow
03:27
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donald j trump
00:26
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jake tapper
00:10
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joe allen
00:24
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stephanie ruhle
00:24
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sundar pichai
00:40
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stephanie ruhle
I'm going to one-up you.
I want to share what the president said right now.
donald j trump
You've agreed to invest $600 billion into the United States.
And because he's my friend, he might make it a trillion, but I'm going to have to work on him.
So Saudi is going to be investing at least $600 billion.
And that means investments in plants, in companies, money on Wall Street, and what it really means for everybody that really counts as jobs.
A lot of jobs.
We have a lot of jobs.
stephanie ruhle
Let's level set.
Annual foreign investment in total in the United States has never exceeded $500 billion.
When the president talks like this, it's as though I'm watching Austin Powers and Dr. Eagle with $1 million.
Like, this is straight up nonsense.
And he's saying it from our oval office.
david rohde
And I'll talk about Saudi Arabia in the region.
There's a long history of Saudi Arabia promising to sort of solve problems.
That they, after 9-11, they were going to, you know, bring the Taliban to heel and end all that.
20 years later, U.S. troops leave and are humiliated.
And they have a long history of sort of not delivering.
They went into Yemen.
They were going to defeat the Houthis several years ago.
That was a mess as well.
And so today, bin Salma was very clear.
He did not agree to the Abraham Accords.
They're not ready for that.
He raised a Palestinian state.
That's his right.
There will be no Saudi troops.
The big, big, big issue now is what will be this stabilization force that will go in and disarm Hamas.
If that doesn't happen soon, this ceasefire, which President Trump deserves credit for, could unravel.
So I don't see the Saudis sort of delivering large amounts of reconstruction funds or ground troops or pushing other Arab countries to provide those ground troops.
And that was what should have been the focus today, not a trillion dollars of investment that shopping mall in Saudi Arabia.
maya wiley
You know, I think the country is very much worried about its people are worried about their freedoms.
You know, one of the things we're seeing in this data and exactly in what you said about what we're seeing and how people are being treated by ICE and why that number is 56% not approving how it's doing its job is because it's violating people's rights and freedoms.
And that means it can come for anybody to the point that there are U.S. citizens or people here with permission being literally experiencing beatings, having their human rights violated.
And so I think it's very clear in this poll that there's also a divide for people who feel threatened.
And that's where we see that non-college educated white, where they feel threatened by whether or not they have a real opportunity in this country.
We should be solving that.
We should be making sure everybody has the ability to get a college degree and live a decent life.
But what's happening right now is the division in the poll and the reason there's fear is because we are being driven apart rather than being united and held together and seeing our shared interests and needs and trying to figure out how to solve those.
But instead we're vilifying people and in the end it's going to impact all of our rights.
unidentified
Failing, you know, playing their trick.
david rohde
I mean is it overreach?
unidentified
I have a hard time grasping how we got to this moment, Mark.
marc elias
We got to this moment because Donald Trump is an autocrat and we can never forget this, you know, Nicole.
Like he's an autocrat who does not care about anything.
He doesn't care about the law.
He doesn't care about the facts.
He just wants power.
And he is surrounded by sycophants.
You know, a Justice Department that even had Jeff Sessions, I cannot believe I'm saying that, even had Jeff Sessions as the Attorney General, would not have sent the letter that they sent.
A conservative governor who had two ounces of common sense and listened to lawyers would not have then called a special session and engaged in what the Reverend is 100% correct about, 100% correct about.
This was them injecting race into a map that they wanted to redraw.
And like, that is just what we see from this administration all over the place.
I mean, we see it in the city streets in which they are grabbing people off the streets who are U.S. citizens and disappearing them in vans.
They are ignoring court orders all around the country.
And this is the reason why they keep losing in court.
You know, you and I have talked before about how many cases they are losing in these cases involving the deployment of the military, the National Guard, or immigration.
Like, they're losing a lot of cases because they are utterly contemptuous of the law and don't even try to follow it.
And then when they wind up in court, you know, hopefully they get, you know, they run up against good lawyering.
joe scarborough
The Chinese are starting to lap us when it comes to AI.
Mark Zuckerberg wanted to do an advanced AI project, and they were going to hire 11 people to do that, AI experts.
Seven of the 11 were born in China.
You look at the top AI experts.
The United States just five years ago dominated this field.
No more.
China is moving ahead of us.
And while we're having this space race, race for the future, the stupidity, the stupidity that is like occupying people that are running Washington, D.C. is so self-defeating.
Again, this time period is begging for heroes.
This moment in history, this chapter in history is begging for heroes.
Those heroes need to come from the Republican Party, and they need to be people that start standing up and saying, this is self-defeating.
You can't have masked men going in pulling American citizens up or people that have their proper papers.
You can't, you got to stop doing this.
Let's focus on the future.
You can't be blowing up boats indiscriminately.
Let's worry about China and Russia.
You can't, I mean, again, the distractions are just so overwhelming, and we're taking our eye off of what's most important for the future of this country.
And that doesn't even include all of the people coming out of college that will not have jobs next year.
Let me say that again.
All the people coming out of colleges that will not have jobs next year because the AI apocalypse is here now.
sundar pichai
Potential of this technology, the excitement is very rational.
It's also true when we go through these investment cycles, you know, there are moments we overshoot, right, collectively as an industry.
We can look back at the internet right now.
There was clearly a lot of excess investment, but none of us would question whether the internet was profound or did it drive a lot of impact.
It's fundamentally changed how we work digitally as a society.
I expect AI to be the same.
So I think it's both rational and there are elements of irrationality through a moment like this.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
It's Wednesday, 19 November Year of the Lord 2025.
We are going to get to all of that today and break it down.
We've got a bunch of action items for the War Room posse, so get ready to get to the ramparts.
So we've got it all.
We've got polling.
We're going to talk about what's happening in Charlotte.
Joe Scarborough right there, that was all over the map.
The reason they don't have jobs coming out, sir, is that we have 600,000 foreign nationals, both Indian from the subcontinent of India and China, that are here to take their jobs, and they all have to go home after college.
You can't have this OPT where these come to college and they're going to slide in to some U.S. company that's going to hire them.
And no, sir, we're not going to stop the mass deportations to get our sovereignty back on these illegal aliens.
And you're saying you've got to focus on the future.
That's just crap.
The future on AI, we're going to get into this in detail because they're trying to slip something into the NDA, which I told you was going to happen because they don't want to have a public, a national debate about this.
On the artificial intelligence, we've got to get our arms around this right now, economically, financially, technologically, culturally, on the society.
But the first thing we should do, they're not getting ahead of us unless we help them.
On artificial intelligence, let me tell you, Navidia's about to announce earnings at Wall Street's going to go crazy.
He's going to have a half a billion dollars of backlog for the chips.
Jensen Yang, who's an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party, he's an arms merchant.
Just let's get down to just think about it very basically.
These chips are essentially critical to weaponization.
He's an arms dealer.
He's an arms dealer.
And he'll deal with anybody.
He'll deal with the Chinese Communist Party.
Look at his saying, oh, yeah, it doesn't matter if a Chinese company does better if China leaves it.
No, that's absolutely incorrect.
So the U.S. government and all this stuff about you can't have any restrictions on this.
You're going to slip it into the NDA.
And one argument is clearly the intellectual property.
And I appreciate that.
And I support that, Mike Davis and the team, but that's a small part of it.
This is to take off any control whatsoever.
You have more restrictions on starting a nail salon on Capitol Hill or to have your hair braided than you have on one of the most dangerous technologies in the history of mankind, probably the most dangerous technology.
Technology has tremendous upside if properly guided, but unguided, incredibly dangerous.
And now we know from the leaks that are coming out from the industry and the CFO of OpenAI, you understand that at least the initial financing plan for the rollout of data centers and energy that go with it is $5 trillion.
Now, I spent last night with some very smart people about AI.
They said, well, actually, that's probably half.
It's probably closer to $8 to $10 trillion.
On the $5 trillion model as put out on Zero Hedge, $1 trillion, what plugged the gap was $1 trillion was coming from you, the full faith and credit of the United States government.
You had all the tech bros last night taking pictures of themselves with the Saudis.
By the way, you know, Saudis are committing to do all this.
It's fantastic.
President Trump's trying to end the war in the Middle East.
Trying to bring that part of the war in the Eurasian landmass that connect part of the Third World War to bring it to a conclusion.
And this, I had Katz, Yovak Katz on Yakov Katz on last night about while Israel slept.
We had Rabbi Walicki in here.
Hey, bottom line, Israel first created a two-state solution.
Okay, that's what's happening.
Turks are going to run the security.
The Qataris are going to underwrite the build out, the Qataris that are in bed with the Muslim Brotherhood.
Okay?
Israel first did that.
President Trump is trying to end this madness over there.
And as I said, the Middle East is a sideshow and Israel's a sideshow to a sideshow.
I'm sorry if that hurts your feelings.
But we're talking about this country.
And the Saudis, when I look at the Saudis, I think they got a liquidity problem.
They're running huge deficits right now.
So maybe he's promising all that, and that's fantastic.
It ought to be monitored.
But this whole thing of doing AI deals and sending them chips, once again, very dangerous.
The chips should not go to anywhere or to anybody that's not a U.S. company that also has at least a modicum of regulation.
You think we regulate the build out of nuclear weapons?
You think we've controlled the build out of chemical weapons?
You think we control or try to control biological weapons, except when Fauci goes over to China and starts underwriting a weapons lab for the Chinese Communist Party?
We have to get control of this.
Now, in Texas, Greg Abbott, because of pressure, designates the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as terrorist organizations.
Suck on that.
Where's the U.S. government doing this?
Abbott, Abbott also, Brian Harrison is going to join us.
Abbott also comes out, and I think Brian Harrison's got breaking news.
He's going to stop the registration of vehicles to illegal aliens.
Barris is going to join us.
The polling don't look great.
Let me be blunt.
And you've got now this fight right now on the redistricting.
People got to get up on the ramparts.
And I mean, not just his audience has been doing it.
I'm talking about local legislatures and these state legislators.
You've got to get up on the ramparts.
Unless you just want to turn the House over to the Democrats now, because they're playing Smash Mouth.
They're going 10 to 1 in Virginia.
Spamberger is going to be Newsom's VP if she delivers that.
It's time to go to war on these people right now.
People are kind of leaning back and everything like that.
You're going to get smoked.
The polling shows you.
And oh, by the way, we're also going to get some Michelle Morrow, who ran for Department of Education.
Boy, would they need her?
Is it 30,000 students did not show up in Charlotte?
Is that a red flag?
Maybe you got a couple of three illegal aliens down there.
And they're trying to back President Trump off for enforcing his policies.
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Okay, I'm going to come back to AI.
Alan is in studio because we have an action item.
We're going to get you up to the ramparts here momentarily.
Before I just pit off total AI, with every dollar of that financing and those guarantees, it has to come from the government.
That's the hidden secret.
All this madness to take away your jobs and to just have unbridled accelerationists.
We're all going to be acceleration now with no risk mitigation that we can see, none, zero.
You're going to pay for it.
So here's the bottom line.
The American taxpayer, we need half the equity, 50% of the equity in all these things.
Yeah.
Oh, Bannon, I'm not a socialist.
I'm a capitalist.
This is not capitalism.
This is corporatism and crony capitalism.
Who told her that we're giving government guarantees?
We're not going to do that.
You're not going to get a government guarantee with the American taxpayer, the American citizen, get stiffed again.
They're going to take all your jobs.
First, they're going to have H-1B visas to have the foreigners come in and take your kids' jobs, number one, and even your job if you're in your 40s in tech.
Okay.
Number two, they're going to have the AI out there.
It's going to kill every apprentice-type job for administrative folks, lower-level managerial and programmers in lower-level tech for the decade of your 20s.
They're going to take all that right away.
Okay?
Then they want you to pay for it.
No, no, no, no.
The American people paid for it the first time with their pension funds to the hedge funds that ship the jobs over to China.
It's not going to happen again.
We need a national debate on this.
This is what upsets me about trying.
I warned you this was going to happen.
They're going to slide it into the NDAA because, oh, you got to approve.
You got to authorize the Defense Department.
Says who?
You ain't authorized the Justice Department, the FBI for 25 or 30 years.
Why is this a must-pass?
It's a must-pass because the pigs at the trough of the arms dealers and the arms merchants got to make sure they guarantee that money.
Got to guarantee that money.
Let's talk truth to power here.
This is outrageous.
And they're trying to slide in again with the, what's the last thing they slid in?
The changes to Electoral Count Act of 1887.
Why was that?
Because they didn't have votes and they didn't want to have a national debate.
So they kind of slid it in to an omnibus bill.
In the dark of night, they take these one or two pagers and they kind of slide them into these 9,000-page bills.
Oh, you got to pass it, must-pass.
You're going to have to suck on that.
Nope.
Not until we have a national debate.
Hey, how about our opening bid?
We want half of the equity for the American taxpayer.
See them wet themselves.
Oh, Bannon's a Marxist.
Bennett's going to, no, no, no, no.
I'm actually a capitalist.
You're a corporatist.
You're a crony capitalist.
That's what we got to clean out of the system.
50% of all the AI, 50%.
How about that?
You want a penny in government guarantees?
Because they're coming for it.
They're going to get so far down the road where we got to do it.
We're the leader in this industry.
The Chinese Communist Party is about to take us over, about to take us over.
You're giving them the chips.
You're giving them the financing.
You got 350,000 of the students here.
You're training them.
You got them all in the weapons labs.
They're all over the place.
So don't sit here and tell me, oh, we have to do it.
Shut that down and then let's have a conversation.
Shut it all down.
Brian Harrison, we're getting big victories.
I want to start.
You got breaking news now on the illegal aliens, but also Abbott got old-time religion because the Warren posse and others in Texas that have been pounding this.
He designated the Muslim Brotherhood and CARE as foreign terrorist organizations in violation of Texas law, sir.
brian harrison
Yeah, he did.
I got to tell you what, the posse, guys, we are racking up conservative victory after conservative victory over the corrupt liberal uniparty establishment down here in Austin, forcing action on the Muslim Brotherhood.
And then right now, I'm absolutely breaking this, Steve, on your show, First Media Outlet I've talked to about this.
I was on, I think, two days ago, giving out the phone number on the war room to the POS.
He's saying, melt the governor's phone lines because instead of locking arms with the Trump administration and doing everything we can to fight illegal immigration, the state of Texas has actually been facilitating illegal immigration for the past many, many years.
And keep in mind, Governor Abbott's been a governor for 11 years.
For the last decade, if you show up at a DMV, a Department of Motor Vehicle, and you want to register your vehicle, as long as you had a passport, not an American passport, any passport from any country, good enough for the Texas DMV, and you were allowed to register your vehicle and drive on the streets here in the state of Texas.
Well, I found out about this a few weeks ago and brought exposure to this.
We've talked about it on the posse.
You guys delivered melt.
Y'all melted the phone lines of the governor.
They secretly snuck out what they're calling a clarification late last night to tax offices all across the state of Texas.
And they are implementing a new policy to now actually require proof of legal status before they just issue you a vehicle registration.
So this is a huge victory.
And I can tell you, it's already being implemented.
I just got off the phone.
I live in Ellis County, Texas.
I just got off the phone with our tax collector down here, Richard Brozier.
And he confirmed that as soon as he got that new policy change, he has immediately ordered his team to begin implementation.
So we are making a difference.
And this is a huge difference.
And I want to be really clear.
There's a 0% chance that this would have happened if the UNI party in Austin was left to their own devices.
They didn't want to do this.
And how do we know they didn't want to do this?
They haven't done it for the last decade when they could have got it done.
But the posse helped us come through with another huge victory, not just for the people of Texas, but for the people and the safety and the national security of folks all across this great country.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Fantastic.
So we've got more work for the Warren Posse today.
We're going to get into about AI.
Talk to me about this shocking development about Texas.
I understand the U.S. Laura Loomer put out that the U.S. government was finally very close to designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, which they are, and that somehow it got stood down.
But are you pretty shocked about what Governor Abbott did about CARE and about the Muslim Brotherhood?
brian harrison
So I think this was another great example of where pressure from grassroots patriots, not just in Texas, but all across America, forced action that, quite frankly, in my opinion, is overdue.
And it's very good.
And thank you, Governor, for making that designation.
That's absolutely correct.
Now, here's the problem, though, or not the problem, but we've got to maintain vigilance because words, which is what the Austin Unit Party specializes in, is empty rhetoric, in gaslighting.
So what matters to me now, okay, we got the designation.
Great.
Thank you.
But action, I'm sorry, words without action is meaningless.
So I want to see investigations.
I want to see arrests.
I want to see actual tangible action taken against these people that it is now the official position of the, at least the executive branch and the government of the state of Texas, that these people are foreign terror organizations.
And this is going to shock you.
For example, are we going to be able to do the low-hanging fruit?
We are, the state of Texas with tax money is funding.
My office confirmed this.
Tens of millions of dollars of tax dollars are being issued as grants out of the governor's office to Islamic communities and mosques all across the state of Texas.
And so another example, the governor recently said that he's signed a law to ban Sharia law.
Well, I'm in the Texas legislature.
I never voted on any law like that.
There is no such law on the books.
So words and rhetoric, great.
But unless they're backed up with action, it's nowhere near enough.
And too many people in Austin have their heads in the sand and do not realize what time it is in America.
steve bannon
Brian, before I let you go, this huge, walk us through because Richard Barris is going to follow you.
And Richard Barris has got a wake-up call on some polling here about the midterms.
And he's also got some polling from Maris and other organizations.
They're maybe not MAGA friendly, but directionally, people are going to get the joke.
This was a bombshell yesterday, sir.
What happened?
brian harrison
It's absolutely a bombshell, and the stakes couldn't be higher.
What we're about to talk about, Steve, this could literally determine the future of the whole country because it could determine whether the United States Congress falls into the hands of the radical leftist Marxist progressive Democrats like AOC just one year from now.
And what happens is three judges in Texas, a panel of three judges, two of them, so a majority, two, struck down the maps that we recently passed earlier this year to give Republicans five more seats in our U.S. congressional delegation.
And they're doing this at a late hour.
People start voting in Texas in February.
We have incredibly early primaries.
So this, because it was a panel of judges, this will now go to the Supreme Court.
The Attorney General here in Texas has said that he does plan to appeal this to the Supreme Court.
I hope the Supreme Court takes it.
I hope the Supreme Court overturns this because it needs to be overturned.
I disagree with this decision by these three judges, but let me be really clear about this point.
The Republican leadership in the state of Texas needs to not take anything for granted.
And I'm calling for us to prepare right now in the event that the Supreme Court does not overturn this decision to strike down a map.
We need to have another special session, go right back down to Austin, pass another map.
And as something we should have done the first time, by the way, if we have to do that, I don't want us just to add five more Republican seats.
Let's be maximal.
Let's add six seats.
Let's add seven.
Let's add eight.
Let's make the Democrats and the activists let us pay for what they're trying to do here in Texas.
And by the way, you don't hear a peep out of them when California, Illinois, and New York, you know, gerrymander far more aggressively than anything Republican states are doing.
So this is a huge, huge, you cannot overstate how big of a deal this is and how big of a problem it could be if the Supreme Court doesn't overturn this.
So Texas has got to start making contingency plans, and we should be making those plans right now.
steve bannon
Brian, where can people, by the way, we'll get into this issue because I talked to General Paxon last night.
There was something from, I guess, Harmed or whatever about race that they're using that to club us.
He's actually fought that intensely.
We'll either get to that this afternoon or tomorrow.
We've got to drill down this.
But in the interim, Brian Harrison, where do folks go to follow the most hated Twitter feed in all of the state of Texas, sir?
brian harrison
I'm probably, probably, there's no problem.
I am the most hated member of the Texas legislature down in the corrupt Austin swamp.
And I get yelled at and screamed at and cussed at for lots of things, but nothing more than for what I put on social media because transparency is like kryptonite in the swamp.
Go to X at Brian E. Harrison.
Do your civic duty.
Piss off a rhino today.
Follow me on X at Brian E. Harrison at Brian E. Harrison.
There's going to be a lot of developments by the hour, by the day, by the minute on this redistricting case.
steve bannon
This is going to be big.
They got to get to it right away because the primaries are in March.
Anyway, I'd love the idea.
We're going to do a backup map right now.
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You're going to understand how big this is.
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Richard Barris, the people's pundit.
I want to give a reality check here what we're dealing with.
Your polling.
Also, there's outside polling now coming.
And some of the outside polling are not MAGA friendly, but this is about directionally, sir.
And this goes to what's happening in Texas.
We told the redistricting wars T up 26, which gets to 28.
This is kind of a bridge.
You know, you got to take a bridge of time.
I might add that in Brian Harrison, he left out Virginia, the Commonwealth of Virginia, which I think is 45 or 46% Republican consistently.
Spanberger's got a plan.
It's going to go from 6-5 folks to 10 to 1.
That is referred to as Smashmouth.
Okay.
This is what they're playing.
They're running a maximum strategy.
I have no problem with that because we're running a maximum strategy too.
It's just we got to get up on it and stop theirs.
Richard Barris, give us the flashing warning sign, sir.
richard baris
Yeah, this is a backdrop of redistricting wars, Steve, which after the ruling in Texas, Democrats are up three seats right now.
I mean, if the ruling stands, they would be up three seats.
Let's even assume they do not, right?
Looking at the polling, we got, if you can put it up, that'd be great.
But I mean, we have the trend from our own polling we can show.
We always have pretty close generic ballots, Steve.
They don't blow open very often, right?
I mean, look at this trend.
And this was released a few days ago.
It's Democrat.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Just quickly explain to somebody, maybe the new viewers and listeners, a generic ballot.
Why is this important?
Why you do it consistently and why it's always pretty close?
richard baris
This is, they call it generic because we don't cite specific candidates.
We're literally asking people about, would you vote for the generic Republican or the generic Democrat if the elections were today in your congressional district?
So this is a House vote, a generic vote for the House of Representatives.
And we track it all the time because, of course, it gives you the national mood, number one, but also it gives you an idea of where the House is going, where people voters are considering when the elections come up and who they're going to vote for from the House of Representatives.
That poll was done on the 10th of November, which is very important here, guys.
It went from Democrat 1.2 to Democrat 7.8.
And it almost all came from, by the way, some of the people who say they're undecided or they're picking somebody else, a third party, going to the Democrats and a bunch of Republicans actually saying, I'm voting third party or not voting at all, right?
And of course, at the end of the day, the third party vote share will not be that high, but it does tell you that a lot of Republicans are thinking of just not voting.
All right.
So that was out in the 10th.
And now we have the Maris poll, which is an opportunist.
They're not MAGA friendly, but it does show you the direction.
They never waste a chance to exaggerate a Democratic lead, but it is noteworthy because there's being done four days later showing Democrat plus 14 does give you a bit of an idea of where this is going.
And I got to tell you, Steve, after last night's debacle, the Republican Party came out looking very, very bad last night.
So none of these interviews that we're talking about today takes into consideration the recent infighting that you've been seeing over the weekend, even into the early this week, and then what happened last night.
And I know that a lot of people want to dismiss the Epstein issue, but the fact of the matter is it's actually been pretty significant.
It's been a demotivating factor.
It's driven a lot of Republicans into, I don't want to say a malaise, but the idea that they're losing faith is probably an accurate idea.
I mean, that's an accurate way to do it.
steve bannon
Do you think that this, do you think any of this came up from Epstein to anything else, maybe not seeing the policies or however you want to define it, was the difference between what people thought, particularly New Jersey, would be close versus also Virginia and that these turned out to be blowouts.
These were double digits, I think 10 or 12 points in New Jersey and even more than that in Virginia, that part of that is already shown by the lack of motivation of maybe some of the people, particularly the lower propensity voters to turn out for these things.
And that's a storm warning.
It should be a storm warning for MAGA and a storm warning for the president and a storm warning for the Republicans, sir.
richard baris
We're reviewing, we're talking to Republican voters from those states right now and asking them why they didn't vote, what was the motivating factor.
And especially in Virginia, people would think it was the government shutdown.
Of course, that did hurt, but that's actually number three in what we're seeing right now.
Number one and two, it tells a story.
I mean, it's, I can tell you guys, it's Epstein and Israel, but Israel stands as a symbol of foreign policy.
People are mad that the administration got sidelined with other things that they didn't really care about.
And now we're going into the new year and people are concerned that the administration and Congress, the Republican Congress, while they have it, did not address the issues that he was elected to address.
And by the way, many of them were elected, kicking and screaming with Trump dragging them behind him, you know, were elected to address as well.
So I mean, it's actually a stunning result, Steve.
I really thought in Virginia, easily they were going to tell us it was the government shutdown.
It's not.
Not even in Northern Virginia.
And by the way, just let me say this.
There's a Marquette poll out.
That's only Democrat plus five, which I can tell you, you know, some people are going to say when they watch this.
But look at the field dates.
Marquette was in the field on the 4th of November.
This thing moved and it moved fast.
People are getting, the right needs a wake-up call.
I mean, that's it.
The right needs a wake-up call and they need to change this faster.
They're going to get crushed.
steve bannon
Let's even take Marquette.
Although it's pre-polled, let's take it as a marker.
That's five.
You're a D plus eight.
What is Maris's doubt?
And I understand Maris doesn't really fully incorporate ever.
They always kind of miss MAGA, but it's another data point.
Maris is plus, is Democrats plus 14 or plus 12?
richard baris
14.
steve bannon
Okay.
Okay, folks, folks, when you get a generic ballot a year before midterm, that shows you, well, Barris, you tell me, how many D plus or R plus 14s have you ever seen?
That's the type of number you see on the Tea Party sweep, Tea Party sweep of 2010, maybe, but zero.
That's the highest you've ever seen.
richard baris
Yeah, I mean, zero, because as far as R plus, because they did under, polls did understate the Tea Party sweep.
Honestly, the folks at Rasmussen and a few others back then were one of the only ones, they got made fun of it too, were the only ones who at this time were forecasting a big Republican sweep was coming.
And for people who say, oh, it's still early, it is.
That's true.
But guess what?
Right about now, the generic ballot does start to get pretty predictive.
So people's views don't change at the last minute as much as people like to think they do.
They start to form a narrative and tell a story in their head.
And those who are truly persuadable will start to decide much earlier than people think.
And it's hard.
Once those views and once those decisions are ingrained in their minds, it's very difficult to change their views and change the direction they want to go.
So the time is running out for Republicans.
They got to wake up, Steve.
I mean, that's it.
The excuse making and everything else has got to stop.
It's got to stop.
steve bannon
Or you need to get both.
Just need to get back to the basis.
If Scott Besson, Scott Besson said the other day, this theory of the case about the capital expenditures for the big, beautiful bill getting expense, plants starting to be built.
You are getting some international here.
I think people got to monitor that much closely or closer.
He said the other day, Maria, it's probably the second quarter when you see the inflection point and this starts to get turbocharged.
Is that that's not too late, right?
If you get, if you really start to have the economy kick in in the second quarter, it rolls through the summer in the fall, that would obviously be a win to our back, sir.
richard baris
Yeah, it would.
That would definitely give Republicans a boost.
And when we put out this poll and started showing it around over the weekend, that's the story I got too, from congressional Republicans.
They were like, look, this is going to come back.
It's going to give us, you know, this is going to give us the wind at our backs moving into the election.
I mean, that's in part true, but working 90, 95 days in the next year is probably not going to cut it along with that.
They have to be seen as doing things because the president might get a lot of credit, Steve.
The president may see a rebound in his numbers, but that does not necessarily mean it's going to translate to report support for Republicans down ballot.
They've had this problem for 10 years.
steve bannon
I haven't put it up yet because I can't believe it.
Scalise put out, who's the majority leader?
He put out the calendar for next year.
richard baris
I think this is going to run.
steve bannon
Grace and Mo, if you can put it up, and if Denver's got it, they can put it up.
Hold, it has how many?
115 days of work?
richard baris
Yeah, I actually was told it was 95 by somebody, but there you go.
There's the calendar.
I guess we could add it up now that we're looking at it.
But this is a joke.
steve bannon
I think it's 100%.
But let's say this is less than a third.
What does that signal to people?
Now, I understand in a midterm, you got August research, you take October off to run.
But when I sit there and go, I call them the Duma and I said, hey, your number one thing should be trying to implement the executive orders of Trump because we have to codify these things into laws.
They go, well, it's too hard.
We don't have the Senate.
It's every excuse in the book.
But you've got to be there.
You should be having hearings.
There's so much going on out there, so much corruption of the Democrats.
The Judiciary Committee should work eight days a week.
And they should be in session constantly.
And I realize people say, hey, we don't want them there because they just do more damage when they do.
But they've got to send a message to the American people that they're working nonstop in their behalf, don't they?
richard baris
Steve, if we took this to a voter right now, if we took this to an average Republican voter and asked them that question, they would say, well, why can't Mike Johnson work as hard for us as he works for Ukraine?
Why can't Mike Johnson work as hard for us as he works for Israel?
I mean, believe you me, if that schedule was on a break and something happened in the Middle East and their friend needed another $2 or $3 billion check, they would make sure that they got it done for them.
I mean, voters are over this.
This excuse is, you know, it's either cowardice or corruption.
That's what Republican and Republican-leaning independents are seeing right now when they look at the House of Representatives and not just them, but the Senate as well.
You know, so that's what I would tell them.
If Zelensky needed, you know, another $5 billion, they would get it to him, Steve, right?
I mean, come on.
This is, it's always the American voter who doesn't get prioritized.
And then when they're getting their, you know, you know, their asses kicked, they're wondering why the Republican voter doesn't want to come out and vote.
Well, they're going to fight for you about as hard as you fight for them.
So just consider that when you make your schedule, Scalise.
That's it.
steve bannon
God, unbelievable.
And don't put it public if you're not going to show you putting your effort.
richard baris
Humiliating.
That's humiliating.
steve bannon
It's ridiculous.
Barris, where do people go for the people pundit, sir?
richard baris
Yeah, we're everywhere, Steve, but the best place is on locals, peoplespundit.locals.com, peoplespundant.locals.com.
There's more polling coming, guys.
Get ready for the states.
Are going to love them.
That's sarcastic.
steve bannon
Okay, thank you.
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate you.
Joe Allen's with me.
Michelle Morrow is going to, let's tee up.
Let's tease right now what we're going to come back with.
What did they slip into the?
I warned you they were under, they couldn't do it in the big, beautiful bill because this audience stopped them and humiliated Ted Cruz's guys.
Ted Cruz and Ted Cruz, I don't want to hear your happy talk because you're the Israel First candidate.
You're going to do this.
You're going to do this.
People are bad.
You're a total and complete scumbag.
He's trying to slip this into the NDA right now.
Tell us what's going on.
He's owned by Israel First and he's owned by the Tech Bros.
He's the running dog of the Tech Bros.
So what's cruising these guys up to?
joe allen
Even worse, Steve.
He's a Canadian.
steve bannon
He is a Canadian.
joe allen
Yeah, Ted Cruz.
steve bannon
By the way, by the way, the RJC ought to check that out before they start putting big dollars into his Cruise 2028.
joe allen
Yeah, Ted Cruz is leading the effort.
Steve Scalise also on board.
You have the push to introduce something like the AI moratorium.
We don't know what it is.
It's all being done behind closed doors, but Scalize reported to Punch Bowl News that they are trying to introduce some kind of federal preemption on states' rights to regulate AI.
steve bannon
Let's get this.
Let's get the punch bowl and we'll put it up.
Joe Allen's in the house.
The war imposse going to the ramparts.
We stopped this before.
We will stop it again.
Short commercial break.
Back in the war in a moment.
unidentified
You hearing and seeing there.
alex tabet
Well, Ana, just 30 minutes ago, Border Patrol agents were spotted on the premises right here at a nonprofit in Charlotte, which provides child care services for refugee families and for immigrant families.
And it really caused quite the fear.
It's the second time this week they were spotted here, but that is not scaring the volunteers here from pushing forward.
They're continuing to gather donations of essential goods like water, like milk, everyday items that families need to feed themselves, to feed their children, that they are afraid to go outside of their homes and get all throughout the city of Charlotte, given the uncertainty of the repercussions.
Now, the one beautiful thing about what has happened here today is the number of community members who we've seen coming in and out of these doors, dropping off food, dropping off medicine, essential items.
I want to introduce you to the leader of this nonprofit, Our Bridge for Kids, Salma Biral.
Salma, thank you so much for joining us.
Just break down what happened just a half hour ago.
How is it impacting you personally and how is it impacting the children who you service?
unidentified
Yeah, so within 24 hours, Custom Border Patrol has had to enter the properties that host all of these nonprofits that support immigrants three or four times.
And they have one goal to instill fear, to make the places that our community felt the most safe in not be safe anymore.
That is what they're doing.
And so personally, you know, myself, it's disheartening.
It's heartbreaking to see what's going on.
But it's just making our team.
steve bannon
Shouldn't MSMBC is now MSWOW?
It's like the sham.
Remember the guy that had the Wow Chamois or whatever it was?
It's Wow Chamois.
MS Wow.
MS Wow.
No, you're supporting insurrection right there.
You're supporting the breaking of the law right there.
They're not there to intimidate or strike fear.
They're in there to get illegal alien invaders and help them escort them out of the country as politely as possible, but you're going.
Michelle Moore ran for the Secretary of Education in Carolina, North Carolina.
Michelle, correct me if I'm wrong.
30,000 students did not show up in Charlotte the other day because of the enforcement of President Trump sending folks down there ice to enforce the immigration laws of the United States of America.
I think that's what, 21%, 25% of the school population, ma'am?
michelle morrow
Yes, sir.
You're exactly right.
Not just been happening in Charlotte, but when you look at that, you look at, I think it was 28,000 students did not show up for school on Monday.
You have to ask yourself, does that mean that there are 56,000 illegal parents that are right there just in that one school district?
And for your listeners that don't know, North Carolina has 115 school districts.
And Wake is now the largest.
We've actually surpassed Mecklenburg for the number of students that we have.
And they sent out a notice saying that they were going to be doing online learning for those students that were scared to come to school.
And they were wanting to help the parents to basically hide their children.
This is the point.
Correction is actually painful.
And we all know that.
And what President Trump is trying to do is he's trying to correct the last 20 years of the Democrats flooding our nation with people that don't want to be Americans.
They just want the benefit of living in our country.
And the time now is if you are fearful, then you should self-deport yourself.
I'm pretty sure that Tom Holman has stated that you can get $1,000 per person and you can get help with a plane fare or some type of transportation to your country of origin.
Why are we not pursuing that?
Why did the Democrats, if they're so concerned about illegal immigration, if they're so concerned about our immigrants, why for the last four years when Biden was in office, were they not helping to streamline the system so people could become citizens of the United States?
The Democrats have to remember something.
They were in power for 12 years under BO as well as under Biden.
And they had every opportunity to make sure that people that wanted to be Americans could have become Americans.
And they did nothing.
And for them to act like they're totally shocked and surprised is ridiculous.
President Trump has never been shy since he started running for president in 2015 about the fact that we have got to ensure that Americans are put first.
steve bannon
Michelle, about these saying they're going to let them get an American education paid for by taxpayers in North Carolina and in the country, that they're going to do it remote.
You know who would log on.
I mean, was President Trump got to go to court?
Does Zeiss have to go in and start arresting the teachers?
If you're going to try to let them hide, the point is all illegal alien invaders in the country have to leave.
And they're not trying to be harsh about this.
It's just a fact.
So how do we get to the, how do we get now to the online aspect of it and don't let them use that to kind of shelter people?
michelle morrow
Well, to your point about breaking the law and these people are aiding and abetting.
The entire school system is doing that.
But Steve, it hasn't just been this.
Since President Trump sent down his orders, his executive orders that there was not going to have any more DEI.
We weren't going to be promoting the LGBTQ nonsense.
Whole school districts are actually bragging about the fact that they're still doing that.
I mean, shockingly, the only thing that tends to work is when we take away their money.
It was very frustrating when the federal government told us that we were not going to get our funding for schools because we were not following the law.
And our Democrat attorney general put up a stink that he was going to sue the federal government and they caved.
They caved.
The education department caved within like three weeks.
That's the only recourse that we have is to start making people pay penalties for their crimes.
And honestly, we can even extrapolate that to everything in society.
When we have our school system, which is the largest expenditure in the entire state of North Carolina, 52% of all of our tax money goes to public education in this state.
And we're looking at that, we, the taxpayers, are the ones that are funding for all these people to be using our sources and to be spending the time of our law enforcement.
Instead of protecting our communities, we're having to do this because you're willingly aiding and abetting.
steve bannon
Michelle, where do people get you on social media?
Man, we wish we had you as the head of the Department of Education in Carolina.
Where do people go to find you, ma'am?
unidentified
They can find me is where I am on Insta and X and on Facebook.
steve bannon
Michelle Morrow, fire breather.
Thank you, ma'am, for laying that out.
Thank you for having the situation down in Charlotte.
Thank you, ma'am.
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