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Nov. 17, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4931: Is The President Of Mexico Owned /By The Cartels; Islam On The Rise In US
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john guandolo
08:17
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oscar ramirez
05:17
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steve bannon
18:42
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ben bergquam
03:42
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fareed zakaria
02:45
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kate bolduan
01:01
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peter mcilvenna
04:54
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scott bessent
02:04
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jake tapper
00:10
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kate bolduan
He said he had sort of made up his mind after being presented with military options by the Pentagon.
Now he says he's open to negotiations with that country's leader, Nicolas Maduro, who by all accounts he wants out of power.
unidentified
We may be having some discussions with Maduro and we'll see how that turns out.
kate bolduan
As the president says that, America's biggest, most lethal aircraft carrier, the USS Gerald Ford, has officially arrived in the Caribbean.
This brings the number of U.S. troops in the region to around 12,000.
President Trump is making no secret that he's ramping up military presence there, even with joint military drills with Trinidad and Tobago.
But what remains quite unclear is exactly what the president's goals are for and with this buildup of force.
Yesterday, the State Department announced that it's designating the Venezuelan gang Cartel de los Soles as a foreign terrorist organization.
The Trump administration also claims that organization is actually run by President Maduro himself.
So, what is the next move?
fareed zakaria
It's hard to see how the government shutdown and reopening is anything other than a defeat for the Democrats.
A high-stakes confrontation that ended with their own goals unmet and their message muddled.
If they didn't have the leverage or were not willing to use it to prolong the shutdown, then why did they stage it at all?
The shutdown reinforced the image of the Democrats as feckless.
They promise wonderful sounding new programs, free childcare, but in fact preside over bloated bureaucracies and inept execution.
If America has an affordability crisis, it tends to be in places Democrats govern, like New York, Illinois, and California, which all feature high taxes, soaring housing costs, and stagnant outcomes in basic areas like education and infrastructure.
Consider New York City, the country's largest and most important metropolis.
The mayor-elect wants to spend more money on shiny new programs.
But surely it would be worth first asking what happened to the money already raised.
In 2012, toward the end of Michael Bloomberg's mayoralty, the city's budget was about $65 billion.
Today, it is about $116 billion, an increase of more than 75% in just over a decade.
Spending has soared while the subway deteriorates, housing costs rise, and public schools remain mediocre, despite spending more than $36,000 per pupil last year, the highest in the nation among major school districts.
The result is a paradox that defines much of blue state America.
Government that promises more, costs more, but delivers less.
New York State mirrors the city.
Its spending has risen from roughly $70 billion in 2000 to more than $230 billion today, about twice Florida's budget, even though Florida has several million more residents.
When voters see that record, they conclude, not unreasonably, that more money is not the answer.
Yet Democrats' instinctive response to every problem remains the same.
spend more.
unidentified
The cost of living Maria is two parts.
scott bessent
So we inherited this terrible inflation.
We are flattening it out.
I believe we're going to push it down.
Energy prices are down.
Interest rates are down.
But the real thing that is going to happen that is going to give Americans real purchasing power increases.
It's going to be through growth.
We passed the one big, beautiful bill.
I am also the IRS commissioner, and I can see that working Americans, thanks to the president living up to his campaign promises, no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security, deductibility of auto loans.
If you buy an American car, there are going to be substantial refunds in the first quarter of 26.
Working Americans will change their withholdings, and they will get a bump up in their real incomes.
So I would expect in the first two quarters, we are going to see the inflation curve bend down and the real income curve substantially accelerate.
And when those two lines cross, Americans are going to feel it.
But Amaria, I will tell you what we're not going to do.
What we're not going to do is tell the American people that they don't know how they're feeling, which is what the Biden administration did.
They said it was a vibe session.
You don't know how good you have it.
And we are working every day to get these prices down.
fareed zakaria
American liberalism once stood for a confident creed that smart policy executed by capable hands could make people's lives better.
Americans want that, but they watch Democrats in action and ask like Casey Stengel more than 60 years ago about the hapless New York Mets.
Can't anyone here play this game?
How long will that take?
scott bessent
I think we are going to see a substantial acceleration in the economy in the first second quarter.
And I think we're already seeing on many prices, as I said, we're bending that curve down.
And the increase in real incomes, I think Americans are going to feel it in the first quarter, second quarter.
I think 2026, thanks to President Trump's signature plans, is going to be a great year for working Americans, for the markets.
I call it parallel prosperity.
Main Street and Wall Street can both do great, but I think Main Street's going to have a great year in 2026.
steve bannon
This is the primal screen of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
Monday, 17 November year of our Lord, 2025.
Okay, it's signaled today, not noise, because a lot of noise going around.
And we may play a few clips from the noise because you always have to deal with that.
As you know, laying out last week the economics of where exactly the MAGA movement and President Trump are going, the bets that we've made and sticking to the bets and understanding that you have to execute on the bets.
I think the Secretary of the Treasury did a fantastic job.
We're going to get to that in a second about what is before us.
Also, I think people going through hemispheric and particularly dominance in Latin America because of our hemispheric defense.
You saw right there, President Trump.
They're now in discussions with Madora.
He's going to have a chance to work something out.
If he doesn't, you know, I think all bets are off there.
They've got a carrier battle group, essentially carry strike group, an amphib ready group off the coast.
We're going to try to get Dan Caldwell here and talk about defense policy.
Eric Prince is going to join us.
I'm going to get back to Freed Zaqara goes full MAGA.
Why isn't Farid Zaqara should have run for mayor of New York with that pitch?
That's the most straightforward thing about the Democrats, this whole shutdown.
One thing I don't think Scott spent enough time on with Maria is how the Democrat shutdown for we don't understand what reason, just to try to chop block Trump is going to lead to a is going to lead to a rough fourth quarter.
And they've got to be held responsible.
Frig Zakara right there holds them responsible.
My recommendation to Lee Stefanik is you should get Frid Zakara as a strategic advisor right now.
He makes the case of the feckless, hapless Democrats and brutally talks to you about what the problem in New York City is.
A budget that went from $65 billion to $116 billion and is not, and they haven't stopped under MAM Downing.
Now, President Trump, I think, wisely saying, hey, I'll talk to the guy.
He doesn't need to be confrontational.
We can be confrontational.
We are spending time on his citizenship because he's not a legitimate American citizen.
And we think that's kind of an issue to have an illegitimate somebody here that lied on his naturalization process.
You've got to hold people accountable to the rules.
So it's kind of, I don't think it's great having a Ugandan citizen being the chief political officer of the financial capital of the world.
Over the weekend, though, also, two things are happening.
We had such amazing support and people saying, finally, talking about the Islamic invasion of the great state of Texas, also, there's things up over the weekend after kind of following what we were hammering on Saturday about what's happening in Miami, what's happening in other places, because you've got a takeover by radical jihadist Marxists from Uganda in New York City.
But one of the things I think is most important people have to be concentrated on is we talk about the chemical warfare, the Chinese Communist Party, to kill hundreds of thousands of Americans.
And of course, cash goes to China, and I realize he's there for a week and he has all the fentanyl stuff worked out.
But that's also predicated upon the Chinese living up to a deal, which they never do.
Now, it's a start.
Don't get me wrong.
It's a big start.
But you have in Mexico these riots over the weekend that to me is a leading indicator of, you know, let's get some kinetic activity, you know, pull the amphib ready group across the Gulf of America off of, you know, maybe off of Yucatan where Cortez landed.
And let's drop, let's go up and hit some of these cartels in the north.
We have Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Oscar joins us from Mexico.
You were actually there all weekend.
The footage looked intense, Oscar.
Can you explain to our audience the world posse exactly what's happening here?
oscar ramirez
Steve, it is an honor to be with you this morning.
Yes, it was a Gen C protest.
And it started on Saturday, just right behind me, just this bus.
It is blocking, but it is where the angel of independence and they put barricades.
These people, these leftists in our country that are talking about their walls and barricades are inhuman, they completely gated the governmental plaza and gated and blocked the whole plaza just to encapsulate all the people that they were going over there and protest.
Thousands of Gen Z and thousands of people there protesting, leading to the assassination of a mayor in the part of Eropan that was fighting the cartel and it was asking for help for the president to get him more artillery so he can fight the cartel and their technology and saying they have a lot of drones.
They have all this new technology that we don't have.
Please help us.
He got assassinated and after that, all it's lit up a fire to the whole country started manifesting and protesting themselves.
And this happened on Saturday.
This is the people, you know, going to the governmental plaza.
And after that, it was just a complete, you know, confrontation between the Gen C, between some infiltrators and the government of Mexico, going at it with tear gas, going at it with tear gas bombs, with petardos.
It is some kind of an explosion that we got hit when one of them in our chest.
Also, the oppression by the police hitting the press.
They basically injured a lot of international press.
And this is leading up because of the statements of the president saying that she doesn't want to go to war with the cartel because she thinks that that is illegal, Steve.
That is her statements, knowing that she has been consistently pressured due to the fact that, you know, the people are pressuring her to eliminate and eradicate this problem.
And because they have been assassinated and they're killing the good ones, Steve.
And that is the number one reason why this protest started.
steve bannon
Oscar, once again, you're in the always put yourself in harm's way about this amazing story that comes out of Central America in Mexico.
Just incredible.
Stick right there.
We get more details.
I want people to understand the young mayor, the brave young mayor that begged for technology to fight the cartels.
Do you understand how dangerous it is to go up against the cartels, particularly as a political figure in Mexico?
Because most of them are bought off or they're terrorized.
And of course, he's assassinated.
And now you're seeing people taking the streets saying, we want our freedom.
We can't have freedom until the cartels are broken.
And they're talking to a political system that is bought and paid for by the cartels.
This is the problem we had in Texas for so many years, particularly down the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas.
And it took courageous Hispanic American citizens to fight back.
This is courage personified.
We're going to get into a moment in Texas about this Islamic invasion.
It's only, these things only stop when you force them to stop.
The system will never stop them by themselves.
Short break.
Back in a moment.
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steve bannon
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It's in Zero Hedge, and I linked to it this morning on my Getter.
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They like what I put up on Getter and how succinctly I frame things.
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There are very big converging forces here, particularly on our hemisphere.
Now, to put this in perspective, the Saudis are here tomorrow and the next day.
And I've got some announcement guests we're going to have on tomorrow.
And the Saudis are talking about an arms deal and all this and the Abraham Accords.
That draws us back into the Eurasian landmass.
But President Trump is trying to set up an architecture so that that is not the full-time involvement of the United States because it's way too much opportunity cost and mind share.
You got to get back to this hemisphere and particularly what the Chinese Communist Party is trying to do in Latin America, trying to do in Venezuela, but is doing actively in Mexico.
I want to go back to Oscar Blue Ramirez, who you've known for years, who put himself in harm's way all the time from the Darien Gap all the way up to northern Mexico, had the cartels chasing.
So I want you to tell this audience, because this uprising is an important thing.
Why?
It's an uprising against a corrupt system.
And it's the exact opposite of what you're seeing the left here in the United States do who are supporting, who are supporting the cartels and supporting a corrupt system.
So Oscar, tell me about this mayor.
Who is he?
Why is he important?
Why was he assassinated?
oscar ramirez
He was categorized as a Mexican Bukele.
That was just simple as that.
He was always, he went as a mayor of Urupan, independent.
He ran independent.
He got out of the leftist political party because he said that it was a lot of corruption.
And that is one of the reasons why the left political party in Mexico did not support him.
He always confronted the cartel.
He made always these videos saying, I'm going after you, and I'm going to use the law enforcement and the constitutional law to just basically eradicate you.
And the threat started happening to him.
The people supported him a lot because he did not only supported the family, you know, the hospitals to get better hospitals and also to get a better legal system in the city of Ruapan, but also he was sending a message that he wanted to be a governor.
And later on, he was potentially going to be president.
He was going to change our country.
And due to the fact that he was being threatened by the Carters, he started asking for help for the president to say, you know what?
I need the military.
I need people over here to combat and fight the cartels.
This is the epicenter where it starts.
And they never sent in help.
And now the people know that it was the government and it was the state.
And yesterday they were yelling on this massive protest, thousands of them.
They were yelling, narco president, you know, narco state, all of this.
It is completely, drastically changing the direction of the mentality of the people.
People are getting sick and tired of the cartel activity, the abductions, the extortions, the decapitations, the dismember bodies, the mass graves, the complete extortion of businesses and entrepreneurs.
The kids, the Gen Z kids, they're saying, we don't have no future.
The cartel is recruiting us and we are killing each other.
This is the number one reason why we are rising, why we are changing the things.
And there's no other way to basically send a message to the world that we have a problem.
And that is the reason why they did the circumstance of yesterday, the confrontation with the police team.
steve bannon
Is the president of Mexico bought and paid for by the cartels?
oscar ramirez
Oh, yes, absolutely.
And I have not said this on no, you know, Hispanic media and all your programs, Steve.
I'm going to have the boldness to say it.
Yes, you know, until now, everybody's saying it.
And somebody's controlling her.
And the number one thing that triggered this is that after the assassination of Carlos Manzo, she went on the morning conference.
And the first thing that she said was that she cannot go to war with the Carters because it is illegal.
Illegal is to decapitate.
Illegal is to extortion.
Illegal is to just terrorize the population like this.
And you're giving them the freedom to do all these horrible things to the population.
And you come out in the morning conference and then you say that it's illegal to go against the war, the cartel.
That is what we need.
We need to eradicate this problem, eliminate this problem, and give back the peace to the citizens, Steve.
steve bannon
Is that why these young people took to the streets yesterday and actually they basically attacked the presidential palace, did they not?
oscar ramirez
Yes, they try to, you know, they try to jump the barricades.
I was there in the front lines.
We got video of it.
You know, we got multiple times gassed up with tear gas.
It was a full-on confrontation because I was sitting down, Steve, after getting hit with multiple tear gas, and there were a couple of Gen C's helping me, giving me water.
And I asked them, you know, this is not the way.
And they said to me, sir, you know, you guys have manifested yourself the whole, you know, this whole time.
It hasn't worked.
This is the only way we can send a message to the world that we are living under a narco state.
This is the only way.
And we have to take it to the streets.
We have to send a message towards them that this is not the way that we have to, you know, basically handle the things.
steve bannon
Oscar, hang on for a second.
Ben Berquam, you've seen it here.
You've seen the courageous Hispanic Americans in the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas that stood up to this.
This is the problem we had.
This is the problem we had here, what, 10 years ago or something.
And by the way, officials in Texas looking the other way are taking money, sir.
ben bergquam
Yeah.
And look, think about this paradox, Steve.
This is not just Texas, all across our country.
While the Gen Zers in Mexico are fighting for their lives to get the cartels out of their lives, you've got the radical leftists in America fighting to keep the cartels here.
That's what we have going on.
We've got all of these protests against ICE all across this country.
I've been driving across the country all weekend, and everywhere you go, you've got massive amounts of illegals that were brought in under the last regime that are now being protected by the very cartels that Mexico is trying to eliminate.
You've got cartels.
Think about this, Steve.
Who the Democrats have aligned themselves with?
Everyone on their side.
They started with the communists.
Communists kill.
Who do we align with?
We align with the communists.
Then they align with the jihadists.
Jihadists kill.
We align with jihadists.
Then they align with the cartels.
Right now, the Democrats are completely controlled by those three heads.
You've got the cartels, you've got the jihadists, and the communists all working to destroy this country from within, while you've got the Gen Zers down in Mexico.
I mean, imagine that.
It's unbelievable.
And the same thing happening in Europe where people are rising up saying, no more Islamic jihad invasion in our countries.
We've got to stand up.
This is a global fight that we are in right now.
And the tip of that is in America.
If we lose it here, we lose it everywhere.
steve bannon
This is why the president's got Stephen Miller, the Secretary of War, others focused on this.
You got to.
This is why New York City, hey, you can sit down and talk to them, but we got to send the troops in.
You got to break these sanctuary cities are basically enforced by the cartels.
You've got the cartels, these corrupt, you know, like in Los Angeles, in Chicago, in New York City, particularly Chicago, they go right up, what, I-35 to take the drugs.
And remember, the people here were trafficked.
They were trafficked by the cartels.
We spent so, guys, hang on for one second.
I need you to stick around because I want to go to Texas.
I'm going to come back.
Let's go to Peter McElvane.
McElvane, you were on here on Saturday.
This story exploded.
Just give a summary.
I've got John Guandola here, one of the great war horses in our movement.
But I want you to set the table about because I've put up another thing on Getter about in the last 48 months.
I think it's two mosques a month for the last, what is it, 48 mosques in the last two years.
So two a month are being built.
I think it's just in the general Dallas area.
McElvaney, what do we talk about on Saturday?
Get the audience up to speed that maybe wasn't here about this invasion of the great state of Texas, an Islamic invasion of the great state of Texas, sir.
peter mcilvenna
So yeah, what is happening under the noses of Texans, of which I met many great ones over the last few days, is that Islam has crept in and in completely unnoticed.
And Texas now has around 350 mosques.
California has 400 at the moment.
So Texas is due to actually be the state with more mosques than any other U.S. state within three years.
Then you've got Sharia, where I was, Stephen Irving, I could have driven two miles and gone to both of the Sharia courts that are there operating, of course, voluntarily, but it's not voluntarily for the women who are in those communities because that's the only law they know.
So we have that happening in the halal food industry.
And the halal food industry is growing 20% year on year in Dallas.
And I've read reports of a huge focus of these groups on Dallas to really push the Islamic agenda there.
And that's why Dallas has 200, I think, 210 mosques in the Dallas-Houston corridor, and then about 100 over in Austin.
And I think it was Amy Mech posted a comment on one of the clips of my time with you on Saturday, Steve.
And she said, look, this is not just urban areas.
This is also in the country.
And that is true.
It's not.
But I wanted to focus on the urban areas because the growth is frightening, but it is also happening outside the urban areas.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
We're going to hold you guys over.
We're going to talk about this lethal combination of Marxism, jihadism, and the cartels.
That's your modern Democratic Party.
That's it.
This is what we're up against here in this country.
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steve bannon
Ben Berkhom, I know you got to bounce.
One more time.
And I want to thank the engine room.
The Arizona engine room reminds me, hey, Bannon, they're not sanctuary cities.
They're insurrection cities.
Thank you very much.
They're insurrection cities.
You see what's happening.
Okay.
Why do cartels?
Why does jihadist?
Why does Soros?
Why do they all focus on Texas?
Why do we focus on Texas so much?
It's as goes Texas, so goes the nation.
It's the crown of, and I look, I come from the Commonwealth of Virginia.
And if you're watching the American Revolution, Ken Burns's, I'll talk about it.
The Commonwealth of Virginia.
It's very hard for me as a Virginian to say that Texas is the jewel in the crown of the states, but it's the jewel in the crown of the states for many, many, many reasons.
And that's why they're so focused on taking over Texas.
Ben Berkwam, I know you got a bounce.
Any closing thoughts?
ben bergquam
Yeah, just real quick on Texas.
So I was just in where this new proposed epic city is planned to be.
Now they're calling it the meadow.
But people don't realize there's already an epic city.
It's called Plano, Texas.
Much, many parts of Texas have already been taken over by jihad.
And this is what's scary to me is you go to these places.
I was just down there in Josephine, and you go to some of the neighbors, and they are terrified.
They're either terrified or they've already left.
And so there's this movement.
And this all goes back to the left, radical left in America, weaponizing the media against people that speak up, saying, you know what, if I don't want the Muslim Brotherhood in my neighborhood, well, now somehow I'm a xenophobe.
There is this ideology that is a death sentence for our country if we don't wake up and have the courage to call it out and stand up and say our Constitution is set to give us freedoms.
It's not set to slit our throats.
And that's what's happening in Texas right now.
Right now, the Democrat Party is controlled, and I like to use stools as an example, the three-legged stool of the Democrat Party.
The most powerful influential forces in the Democrat Party right now are Islamic Jihad, communism, and the cartels.
And all three of those forces are driving the Democrat Party.
And the Democrat Party uses them when it's advantageous to them.
But it's not, you won't see, when I say the cartels lead them, you won't see the cartel out in front of them.
What you have is the Catholic charities out in front of them, just like in Chicago right now.
All of these protests being led by so-called clergy.
That's the same clergy from Catholic charities that was profiting off the trafficking of children under Joe Biden.
So you send out the good-looking faces, but it's really the cartels that are behind it.
And the same is true for the Islamic community.
You have care go out there on behalf of the Muslim Brotherhood to try to neuter the truth about these groups.
But that is who is leading the Democrat Party.
We need to come to terms to that, and we have to understand there is no more compromise.
It is defeat.
One side is going to be defeated.
It's either us or them.
steve bannon
You think Ben Berquam's crazy?
You think he's wild?
You think when Mediate and Media Matters takes, look at New York City and look at the hedge fund managers.
Look at the billionaires that are bending a knee to Mamdani.
How can I help you?
How can we make this work?
That is pure Marxist jihadists.
It's Sadiq Khan.
Come here.
And they're all bending the knee.
You know why?
They're all gutless.
They're not going to stand up to this.
If you don't stand up to it now, and particularly, if you don't take your stand in Texas right now, you're going to lose the country.
Take that to write that down.
You can see clearly what's happening.
Berquam, where do people get you on social media?
ben bergquam
Well, I'm heading into California.
I'm going to be riding with ICE and Border Patrol again these next few several weeks.
So keep following America's Voice News.
Our new episodes of Law and Border coming out at Real AM Voice just released a new video yesterday exposing the media up in Chicago for colluding with the activists.
We're going to be releasing more of that.
And then my personal social media is at Ben Berquam.
Substack is Frontline America.
My website's frontlineamerica.com.
steve bannon
You're 100% Catholic charities, that Lutheran charity, they got some Jewish charity, they got all these front groups, NGOs, and now you got the Catholic bishops saying, oh, what you're doing is terrible.
It shouldn't happen.
No, no.
You're going to lose this country.
If you lose this country, you're going to lose everything.
Ben Berquam, thank you.
We'll get you back on when you get to another location.
Thank you, sir.
John Guandola, for those who have been with us for over a decade, starting back at Breitbart and Breitbart Radio News and the weekend shows and the daily show, no John Gwandola.
John, you've got a long and storied history with the FBI, although they designated you that the Muslim Brotherhood-controlled media and people in this town designated you early on when you were actually, you and Rich Higgins and others were actually trying to alert America to the problem we have with this Islamification.
Can you give a little bit of your curriculum veto before we talk about Texas?
john guandolo
Sure, Steve.
So I started out at the Naval Academy, got commissioned as a Marine officer.
I'm a combat vet, served in Desert Storm and sat off the coast of Bosnia for a while doing some operations there and joined the FBI in 1996 and served almost 13 years.
But after 9-11, through investigations that I was working, came to see there was a massive jihadi movement in the United States, primarily run by the Muslim Brotherhood.
But there's also a very significant Iranian Hezbollah network, the Diobandis and others.
But they worked together and pretty early on saw that they were working with communist groups.
It started out, my discovery came when communist groups like Answer, Code Pink, and others were working with Brotherhood, Hamas groups like CARE, ISNA, Islamic Society, North America, and others.
And then that has progressed exponentially since the early 2000s to today.
And when I ran, I created out of need because agents and analysts in the Bureau and local and state law enforcement were not aware of what I had become aware of through these investigations.
And so I started meeting with them, teaching them, training them, and in 2006 ran the first training program in the government on the Islamic movement, on the broader threats internationally, and how local and state officials as well as federal agencies could deal with them.
And that was initially applauded, and then very quickly they tried to quiet me.
And I realized later, and I was told later by colleagues who were at headquarters, that it went over like a lead duck because I was just some agent in a field office doing things that people at headquarters should have been doing.
And thank God, you know, Rich Higgins recruited me out of the FBI into the Department of Defense, and I was able to get a lot done with him and Steve Coughlin over the next several years.
And then we got defunded under the Obama administration.
And so myself and Steve Coughlin took our efforts on the private side.
And I've been basically continuing that work on the private side for the last 13 plus years.
steve bannon
So you're talking about heroes.
We'll spend more time on that this week.
Sergeant Higgins, Rich Higgins, who gave the warning in the first, I don't know, 100 days, 150 days in Trump's first term about exactly how they were going to do the plot to impeach him, right?
Higgins got that.
Major Steve Coughlin and Kwandola have been the heroes of keeping this at the forefront.
Talk to me, since you're the expert, talk to me about the state of Texas.
I would assume, since Texas is one of the great Christian states in the Union, that we don't have a problem down there with Islamic jihad creeping in, sir.
john guandolo
Yeah, I think you know better than that.
About 15 years ago, I'm going to back up and just quickly mention this.
You know, we had in Tennessee the jihadi, the Islamic movement in North America, and specifically the United States targeted Tennessee.
And my professional assessment is they took Tennessee under a Republican governor, by the way, which is what we're seeing in Texas.
They targeted Tennessee and especially Nashville initially because of the fact they viewed it as the buckle of the Bible belt, if you will.
When they took it, you know, about seven and a half years ago, they sent one of their most significant Islamic jurists, a guy named Yasser Qadi, to Texas.
And when he moved from Memphis at the Memphis Islamic Center to Texas, I alerted some of my colleagues, including, you know, guys like Frank Gaffney, who you know well and have had on the show, but others, friends of mine that do this work a little more under the radar.
And we knew that that meant that the jihadi movement, the Islamic movement in the United States, was targeting Texas.
And what we've seen is Yasser Qadi, who is arguably, if not the top, one of the top Islamic jurists in the United States, came to Texas, moved to Plano, became and is the Islamic jurist at the East Plano Islamic Center, epic.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
john guandolo
And is the face of the city?
steve bannon
Slow down.
Slow down.
Whoa, whoa, slow down.
Slow down.
When you say jurist, I want to make sure they understand.
You're saying a guy that is like a Supreme Court, a guy on Sharia law, correct?
What they try to do, when you say take it, and I'm going to get back to Tennessee in a moment, you say take it.
What they want, and this is what Frank Gaffney has preached for two decades, it's about Sharia supremacism.
And the first way they want to do it is slide Sharia law in so the Islamic community, or at least part of it, not all of it, but part of it, will be controlled under Sharia law.
And they'll say, like they say in Britain, well, no, it's just a parallel system.
It's just for solving social problems in the interpersonal relations and social problems inside the housing projects over there, right, where the workers are.
And it just will take the burden off the courts.
It'll take the burden off of English common law.
It couldn't be anything for they lead with these jurists.
First off, you've got obviously the preachers, the imams, but the jurists are important because this is how they get an operational structure in there, correct?
john guandolo
That is absolutely correct.
And you just hit on a couple really important points.
First of all, Sharia is real law.
We have a lot of people who pose as, quote, moderate Muslims, you know, your Rahil Razas, your Qanta Ahmeds who go on Fox News and CNN, and they say, you know, there's Islam and there's Islamism, there's Sharia and there's Sharia law, and they try to parse this out.
When you get Sharia, you get the whole bag of worms.
And it is really important for everyone to understand that Sharia states that the purpose of Islam is to wage war against the non-Muslim community until Sharia is imposed on the earth, period.
So the halal restaurants, which, you know, Peter and Ben were mentioning, the wearing of the burqas, the wearing of a shop in increasing amounts.
And this is something, by the way, when I worked with Andrew Breitbart and Steve Cocklin, I worked with Andrew Breitbart and went out to Hollywood and quietly briefed a number of people out there.
One of the things that we did is when we started communicating with these folks, you know, Andrew would call and say, hey, here's what they're doing.
On a very busy night, for instance, out near Beverly Hills at the big malls, all of a sudden you'd see two to three dozen Muslim women with babies and baby carriages with the hijabs and the burqas walking around at the most trafficked time, the highest time of people being out in these different areas.
Did we think something of that?
We said, absolutely.
They do that.
They will go out in public in Burqa or at least in hijab.
And it's intentional and it's controlled.
So I think what, in my experience, what shocks is how well controlled this all is.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Just hang on for one second.
We're going to get to all this, including you say Tennessee has fallen.
I think there'd be a couple of folks in the volunteer state that would disagree with that, but we're going to get into all that.
We've still got Oscar Blue Ramirez heroically is down in Mexico City.
Peter McAlvini is with us.
Eric Prince, talked about a couple here.
Eric Prince, Dan Caldwell's are going to join us.
Plus, we're going to talk about artificial intelligence, the financing of it, where the American taxpayer comes in, all of it.
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steve bannon
Eric Prince is going to join me in a minute.
McAlvenna, before I go back to John, economic jihad, what is it?
And how did you see it in Texas?
peter mcilvenna
Well, if you look at the global halal food industry, it's valued at, I think, $4 trillion at the moment.
And in the UK, we have a slice of $90 billion.
That is a huge growth.
And this is about supply and demand.
This is about if you increase the population of a group that demands certain entitlements, then that must be provided.
The same with Sharia Finance.
Sharia Finance is a $5 trillion industry due to hit, I think, $7 trillion by the end of the decade.
Everyone wants a slice of this pie.
Whether you're in the food industry, whether you're in the financial industry, you want a part because there's money to be made in this.
And that is my concern.
This is not driven just by Islamic organizations that may be above the radar.
This is the demand of local citizens.
And if you let people in, if you allow communities to establish, then they will make demands.
And just an example, Steve, I was, I remember being at a restaurant in London, I think, 12 years ago.
And I was asking, I saw on the menu, it said, our chicken is halal only.
And I have an issue with this.
So I asked the waiter, I don't want halal.
Have you got non-halal?
And he looked at me as if I had just said something in a different language.
I repeated it twice.
I then got the area manager who had been in the restaurant and he said, you're the first person ever to ask for non-halal.
He said, every day we've had Muslims knocking our door asking for halal.
This is economics.
And the penny dropped at that point, or the dime or the nickel dropped.
And I realized that actually this is about supplying the needs of the community.
That is about what a business is about.
It's the bottom line.
And the halal food industry is about the bottom line.
And if you have a majority Muslim population, therefore you go all halal.
And that is what is happening in Texas.
It is what is happening.
New York is what?
15% of the Muslim population in the U.S. is in New York.
And the demand will be there.
And now they'll have a green light under Mamdani.
And I walk along any high street in London.
And every single restaurant, by and large, maybe 80%, have got a little sticker in the window.
Sometimes you can barely see it because it's clear, but it's got the halal symbol.
I go into KFC or I go into some McDonald's or any restaurant, and it is halal only.
Why is it halal only?
Because it's too difficult to have two separate suppliers.
It's too difficult to have two separate food preparation areas.
It's too difficult to have two food cooking areas.
And therefore, you do it all once.
Christians are not going in demanding food of a certain type because it's not part of Christianity to demand a certain type of food.
And yet, as part of the Islamic ideology, and that's why they're winning because they are more vocal about what they want than we are vocal about what we want.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Okay, hang on for one second.
Eric Prince is going to join us.
I've got Oscar Blue Ramirez in Mexico.
We're going to get to that.
I want to get back to John.
John, just give me two minutes.
You said some of the explosive, and we have a huge audience in Tennessee.
You said Tennessee had already fallen, and they went to Tennessee, particularly Nashville, because it's the buckle of the Bible Belt.
Once they took Nashville, then they sent their top people to Texas.
What do you mean, Tennessee has fallen, sir?
john guandolo
So I want to frame this in a way that people can understand.
People think when the comments made like that, you think that there's a military presence, an Islamic military presence, which there is in Nashville, but not the way you would think.
But when we can demonstrate, I mean, this is now 13 years ago, when I went in and did the training for law enforcement, I mean, the Nashville police chief back in 2012 said if any of his officers go, he would fire them.
And where does that come from?
That comes from the relationship that was built with the jihadis in the community who say we're offended by this training.
When you look at the things and the people Bill Lee was working with, jihadis, men and women that were a part of the administration back then and today in the community.
When you look at the decisions that are being made, and there are many of them from the local level up to the state level that are being made with the direct input of the jihadi advisors and those people working.
I'll go back to something Rich Higgins said on a national radio program when he was asked.
And he said the Muslim, and this was, again, over 10 years ago, the Muslim Brotherhood controls the U.S. decision-making process as it relates to the Islamic world.
And they do.
And so that's what I mean.
It doesn't mean they've got guys standing around the governor's mansion with AK-47s, but they certainly control the decision.
unidentified
You said this was a free reign.
steve bannon
You said this was a Republican governor.
Was it Bill Lee or somebody before him?
john guandolo
Before him, like Haslin, before him.
steve bannon
Haslin?
Okay, fine.
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I'm prepared to listen, so we'll see what happens there.
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