Nov. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Back with this breaking news. | |
| President Trump's 2020 election interference case in Georgia is now in the hands of a new prosecutor after Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis was disqualified in the case. | ||
| Let's get more from our senior legal reporter, Lisa Rubin. | ||
| Lisa, how significant is this? | ||
| Well, today was the deadline for Peter Skandakalis, who is the chair of this prosecuting counsel in Georgia, to find someone to potentially replace Fonnie Willis after the Supreme Court of Georgia decided she needed to be removed from the case because of the appearance of impropriety. | ||
| And you see, as per our reporting this morning, that Peter Skandokalis appointed Peter Skandokalis. | ||
| I think it's significant in the sense that there is or could be some forward motion, but that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be. | ||
| Among the options for Peter Skandokalis, of course, is not only reviving the case, but choosing not to revive the case. | ||
| And as you and I both know, earlier this week, President Trump pardoned dozens of people who were allegedly involved in the fake elector scheme, many of them defendants and ongoing defendants in this Georgia case, if it were to be revived. | ||
| So look to see what he's going to do in the next couple of weeks. | ||
| If he does want to prosecute the case, then I think that he will notify Judge Scott McAfee. | ||
| I'd like to have a conference. | ||
| Let's get this train moving again. | ||
| But if he doesn't, he may also make some sort of official announcement as to why he is wrapping the case up. | ||
| Either way, I expect in the next several weeks, we'll hear from Mr. Skandokalis about what his plans are on it. | ||
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How far along was the case? | |
| The case was reasonably far along. | ||
| Discovery had concluded. | ||
| There were many pretrial motions that were decided. | ||
| In fact, one of those pretrial motions dealt with some of the charges around the RICO charge. | ||
| The main charge here was a state racketeering conspiracy. | ||
| But there were other charges that had to do with Georgia election law and sort of more straightforward interfering with the process of certifying electors, for example. | ||
| Two defendants in particular got some of those charges dismissed. | ||
| John Eastman, the Trump attorney, and Sean Still, a Georgian. | ||
| They succeeded in getting those dismissed, saying this is an inherently federal proceeding. | ||
| The state of Georgia had no business bringing state election charges against us for the process of certifying electors. | ||
| Perhaps we could see that argument sort of being revivified if Mr. Skandokalis goes forward, because that is the basis on which the administration has justified its pardons of folks all across these fake door elector schemes from Georgia to Michigan to Wisconsin to Nevada. | ||
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But let's say it stays a state case. | |
| The president couldn't do anything about it, could he? | ||
| If it stays a state case, the president cannot do anything about it other than to advance the arguments that he has on the basis for which he made these pardons. | ||
| You and I both know that constitutionally, the president has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime. | ||
| But again, his position here is that these pardons are justifiable because these aren't in fact state crimes. | ||
| They are federal crimes for which these folks were never charged and the state had no right to bring them. | ||
| So look to see whether or not any of these folks in the Georgia case or in any of the other cases, as they move forward, feel like they need to go back to that and say, hey, wait a second, I have a new argument that I need to make that pertains to my defense. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're going to not get a free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| Friday, 14 November, Year of War, 2025. | ||
| Okay, I've got Jack Pasobic. | ||
| I have Matt Gates. | ||
| I got Alex Brusowitz. | ||
| Since all those are a little bit on the wimpy side, just kidding. | ||
| I got the hammer here, Christina Bob, to start off. | ||
| So we got a pack show today. | ||
| You're going to be my wingman, but I've got you in here for a special reason. | ||
| This first guy, MAGA, I mean, we're trying to get H.1Bs, and President Trump's focus on the economy again. | ||
| But I think people are kind of missing the Democratic plot here. | ||
| Helmet, this happened during our morning show on MSNBC. | ||
| Is the and tell me what's going on in Georgia? | ||
| Because I guess you got a pardon in Arizona, but it's not really a pardon. | ||
| I want people to understand that. | ||
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But maybe we replay this. | |
| They are talking about prosecuting the president of the United States on what they think is a live state charge by Fannie Wilson people, correct? | ||
| Yes, and that's what I had to verify with you while we were watching the clip because it's so kind of mind-boggling. | ||
| Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. | ||
| They're still indicating that they're proceeding forward. | ||
| It's unclear to me at this point if they actually plan on prosecuting this case. | ||
| Oh, they plan on prosecuting it, don't they? | ||
| Who can shut them down? | ||
| It's a state case. | ||
| Only the state attorney general. | ||
| I don't even know if they only. | ||
| Well, yeah, Carr, that's another one. | ||
| I mean, Carr is a nightmare for the state of Georgia. | ||
| But Peter Skandilakis is the executive director, I think, of the prosecutor counsel for the state of Georgia. | ||
| He's the one that took this over. | ||
| That indicates to me that there was no other sitting prosecutor who wanted to actually take this case. | ||
| He took it on, apparently, because there was no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case. | ||
| So he took it. | ||
| There's a status conference here in December 1st. | ||
| The pleading that came out today, or the order that came out today, looked like the case could be proceeding forward. | ||
| He's not really a sitting prosecutor. | ||
| So there is a possibility that he put himself on the list to be able to file a motion to dismiss the case. | ||
| So that's what I'm hoping happens. | ||
| That's what should happen. | ||
| I don't know where he will prosecute this out of. | ||
| I mean, he'll have to kind of jerry rig and create a team to do this. | ||
| Oh, they would do that in a second. | ||
| They could. | ||
| Before the midterm to get Trump in a trial next summer. | ||
| Look, it's not going to happen. | ||
| But my point is, these are the type of fantasies they keep driving. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it was so unbelievable that as the clip was playing, I had to verify with you. | ||
| Like, am I hearing what I'm hearing? | ||
| Because this is so bizarre that they would try to do this. | ||
| But yeah, there are other arguments to be made, though. | ||
| And in the order that came out said, you've got to raise your motions now. | ||
| Otherwise, I'm going to assume you don't have any, like, I'm going to assume that we've heard everything that's going to be heard. | ||
| There likely will be other motions raised. | ||
| The status conference in December. | ||
| Could it be dismissed then? | ||
| Or is that when he sets up the process to dismiss it? | ||
| Either way, it could be either way. | ||
| And I, like I said, I don't really know what this prosecutor is going to do. | ||
| I was surprised that it happened this way. | ||
| I thought it would be dismissed by paper rather than having a hearing. | ||
| So they may actually be trying to move over. | ||
| If they have any possibility of keeping this thing in the public eye, they remember he tried to illegitimately steal the 2020 election, which we know is opposite. | ||
| Two things I want to get to because the Tina Peters, but particularly when I talk to people, explain to me the president's trying to be helpful here. | ||
| Todd Blanch and the team, Ed Martin, the pardons team, particularly with these electors. | ||
| But everybody's like kind of leaning on their shovel now because it said, hey, all the electors got pardoned. | ||
| That has no bearing on this state case, correct? | ||
| In Arizona, and I guess is it Michigan or what's they're going to go down and they're going to go even harder here, are they not? | ||
| Or try to? | ||
| Well, I mean, broad brush, I would say it doesn't really have any bearing on a state case. | ||
| The president doesn't pardon state cases. | ||
| That usually comes from the governor. | ||
| That's kind of the traditional talking point on this. | ||
| However, the argument to be made with the pardons, particularly in this Georgia case, is a little bit different. | ||
| I mean, Michigan's already dismissed, so it doesn't really matter. | ||
| Is it Wisconsin and Wisconsin, Nevada? | ||
| Arizona is still open, but our indictment has been thrown out. | ||
| So, you know, it's on, it's in the process. | ||
| Are you still burning up legal fees? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, as long as the case is open, it's administratively, it's open, but there's no valid charging documents. | ||
| Is it Judge Trupas Trupas out of Wisconsin? | ||
| He's going to be in studio. | ||
| Yeah, Trupas is fantastic. | ||
| He's one of the defendants. | ||
| Truce is coming to town. | ||
| He's going to be in studio Tuesday, Wednesday. | ||
| I want to get all the stories about these people because they've been tortured for a couple of years and spent an enormous amount of money. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And Trupis actually in Wisconsin, prior to coming up with the alternate electors plan, he actually went to the Attorney General and they had a meeting, a hearing, whatever, and he said, hey, we believe that we need to preserve the electors' votes. | ||
| He went and told them, hey, this is what we're going to do. | ||
| Said this to the Attorney General. | ||
| Let us know if you have any problems with it because we believe that these steps need to be taken in order to preserve Donald Trump's ability to cast these votes later. | ||
| And the Attorney General approved it. | ||
| He said, you know, there was a memo somewhere floating around that that's okay. | ||
| There's nothing illegal about this. | ||
| Go ahead and do it. | ||
| And it was because the attorney general approved it that Trupis said, okay, this is what we're going to go forward and do. | ||
| And then lo and behold, they turn around and indict Trupis and Mike Roman and Ken Chesborough. | ||
| Not even the electors. | ||
| I mean, the Wisconsin case reeks to high heaven. | ||
| But back to the pardon issue, the way the pardons could actually impact the state cases, if you want to go down that road, is kind of what they were talking about in the clip: that these are not actually state charges. | ||
| These should be federal charges. | ||
| It's a federal election. | ||
| Federal law supersedes state law on this issue. | ||
| And so the pardon, the bigger issue of what's actually being charged really is a federal office, even though they're state charges, it is a federal offense. | ||
| And so that pardon should apply to this case, to these state charges. | ||
| It's an argument to be made. | ||
| I don't know, you know, I don't know who or how anybody was going to raise it, but normally a federal pardon, a presidential pardon, wouldn't impact a state case, but there actually is an argument to be made here. | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| Because it's a federal election and the heart of what they're doing is a federal election. | ||
| But then they would be admitting that they charge you illegitimately because it's, I mean, the people in Arizona are not going to agree to that. | ||
| The state out there is out of control. | ||
| No, the AGs and Fannie Willis, they will all oppose it, but the judge could agree with you. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So it's a motion that they might bring. | ||
| Tina Peters. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Why is she still in a state prison? | ||
| Because of the state of Colorado. | ||
| I know, but aren't they saying now that the machines are there are problems with the machines? | ||
| You've got the congressman from Texas saying that now that some guy's bought them that used to be a Republican state election official, that Dominion machines can be available. | ||
| Oh, yeah, Liberty vote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Crockett's out there saying you can't use it. | ||
| Isn't it time? | ||
| And I hear that Maine Justice has told the BOP, make arrangements with the Colorado authorities to transfer her to a federal facility, probably to be a witness potentially in a federal case. | ||
| But Colorado is refusing. | ||
| I hear today that I think EPA or somebody's sending money to Colorado. | ||
| Should we not just cut off? | ||
| We talked to the president, have him cut off all money to Colorado until she's released. | ||
| She's a political prisoner. | ||
| 100% she's a political prisoner. | ||
| They're holding her hostage. | ||
| I mean, she's a gold star mom. | ||
| She's in her 70s. | ||
| She was an elected official. | ||
| This was an absolute sham trial. | ||
| I mean, they manufactured these convictions in order to score political points for their base in Colorado. | ||
| And a lot of the information that's coming out, she was right. | ||
| Like you mentioned, a lot of the concerns about the machines have been proven to be valid. | ||
| Her concerns are. | ||
| And Democrats are saying now, Jasmine Crockett is one of the highest visibility. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| She's thinking of running for the Senate, and she's saying, hey, Texas can't use any of these machines. | ||
| I'm not sure they use them anymore, but she says the machines ought to be banned nationwide. | ||
| You got Jasmine Crockett, the most radical, saying that. | ||
| How's Tina Peters not sprung from jail? | ||
| Yeah, no, I mean, Colorado should be how bad it can't be. | ||
| Is it as bad as Arizona? | ||
| I think, I actually think Colorado is worse. | ||
| I mean, Tina Peters is in prison unfairly. | ||
| You know, thankfully, in Arizona, we don't have that at the moment. | ||
| Although, Chris Mays is working very hard to try to do that, not just to us. | ||
| She would have thrown all you, she would have thrown, it was you and Boris. | ||
| They had some high-value targets. | ||
| Yeah, and the electors, too. | ||
| Tyler Boyer from USA. | ||
| Tyler Boyer, the head of ballot chasing for Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Boris Epstein, the president's lawyer. | ||
| Rudy Mark Meadows. | ||
| Mark Meadows, former chief of staff. | ||
| John Eastman. | ||
| John Eastman, Christina Bobb, president's lawyer. | ||
| They had eight or ten high-value added targets to take down and put in prison. | ||
| Yeah, and she tried. | ||
| She thankfully hasn't been successful. | ||
| But it's not just us. | ||
| I mean, the electors' case, even though I'm grateful that it's getting a lot of attention now because of the pardon and some of the information that's coming out, but after the election, it really did kind of go underground for a little bit. | ||
| People were like, oh, we won. | ||
| A lot of people assumed the case was over or cases were over. | ||
| People assume the case is over. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It may help. | ||
| The case is not over. | ||
| The cases are not over. | ||
| Well, Michigan is, but none of the other ones are over. | ||
| Wisconsin's on. | ||
| The judge is here next week. | ||
| Arizona's on. | ||
| Georgia, they should dismiss it. | ||
| They don't know. | ||
| But you just saw from MMBC, they're lathered up because Trump could be on trial in the summer before the midterms. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, what they're trying to do is just throw sand in the gears to, one, make sure the Trump administration doesn't actually accomplish its objectives and doesn't actually fulfill its mandates. | ||
| And then, two, just, I think they're just disgruntled people that like causing chaos. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| These people are evil. | ||
| They're demonic. | ||
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They're trying to come after you guys, the white hats, the people who have done great, great work. | |
| Birch Gold, so you're going to co-host for me for the hour. | ||
| We've got Gates from Central America live. | ||
| We're going to have Alex Brusewitz, I think, is going to our Palm Beach studio to talk about Indiana today. | ||
| Told the president of the United States, sorry, not sorry, can't do anything on redistricting, so you can suck on that. | ||
| Brusewitz is not happy about that. | ||
| He's on the Mike Pence team. | ||
| And of course, we've got Jack Fasovic, I think, heading to a UFC fight. | ||
| We're going to get it all done here in the war room. | ||
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| I'm excited to talk with Alex Brusewitz. | ||
| You've got some fun news out of Indiana. | ||
| Alex, tell us what's going on. | ||
| I'm not sure how fun it is, Christina. | ||
| It's an actual portrayal what's happening in Indiana. | ||
| It's terrible what's happening. | ||
| We have Republicans that still have no idea what time it is. | ||
| We're watching Gavin Newsom steal five congressional seats in California, and the Republican legislature in Indiana can't even do the right thing and do what the people of Indiana want and redistrict. | ||
| It's obstruction that's happening straight from the top. | ||
| The state Senate president, his name is Roderick Bray. | ||
| He's totally weak. | ||
| He's totally clueless. | ||
| And they're going to hurt our abilities to win in the midterms because they refuse to do the right thing. | ||
| And so it's time after time the rhinos always let us down. | ||
| I'm not sure we're now 10 years into the Donald J. Trump experiment. | ||
| Donald Trump has taught the Republican Party how to win. | ||
| And you win by being ruthless and you win by fighting and showing courage. | ||
| You don't win by being a feckless loser. | ||
| That's the party of the past. | ||
| And for some reason, that Indiana legislature still likes to live in that. | ||
| But hang on for a second. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| We're already 8-0, correct? | ||
| We're 8-0 in Indiana. | ||
| We want to take this, go to 9-1, right? | ||
| We want that extra seat. | ||
| I thought the governor was with us. | ||
| We had this huge event a couple of months ago. | ||
| Senator Banks, I think, put it on. | ||
| I thought we had this done, and then Mike Pence got involved, and then the state. | ||
| Why are they telling the president of the United States? | ||
| Because Virginia's just told us they're going 10-0, so we want to go 9-0 or 10-1 in Virginia. | ||
| We want to go 9-0 in Indiana. | ||
| Why are they getting weak now that other states have come in after the Tuesday election results, and particularly after Newsom stole five seats in California? | ||
| Why are they getting weak now? | ||
| That's a great question, Steve. | ||
| I have no idea why they're getting weak. | ||
| And they're so weak. | ||
| The state Senate president, Roderick Bray, he won't even call a vote to have redistricting voted on. | ||
| He doesn't want to have the names of the rhinos out there who are going to vote to obstruct it. | ||
| It's crazy what's happening. | ||
| And, Steve, two weeks ago, we saw on Tuesday, two weeks ago, we saw that the Republican establishment totally let down the people of Virginia and totally let down the people of New Jersey. | ||
| And they still do not know how to win with Donald Trump not on the ballot. | ||
| And I can promise you that getting weak need on redistricting when the entire state of Indiana wants it. | ||
| I was just in Fort Wayne on Monday, and we had 500 people there, you know, chanting and cheering when I was talking about how the president is advocating for redistricting. | ||
| They want it done. | ||
| But the rhinos in the legislature, they are refusing to do it. | ||
| And so we still have a really huge rhino problem. | ||
| I know you call it out, Steve. | ||
| You've never stopped calling that out. | ||
| And I think a lot of people on our side in Washington are waking up to that once again and realizing that Donald Trump might be in the White House right now, and the Republicans still might be in the House, in the Senate, and in legislatures all across the country. | ||
| But still, many Republicans are not with us. | ||
| They fight against us potentially for very corrupt reasons. | ||
| And so we need at least Roderick Bray, the state Senate president, to call for a vote. | ||
| The people of Indiana deserve to know which senators are with them and who are against them. | ||
| But I can promise you that we're going to be taking a very strong look at primaring every single rhino senator that is standing in our way on this effort. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| That absolutely needs to happen. | ||
| There's been this sentiment that I've seen a little bit here in D.C., you know, certainly in Congress, and I think maybe even in some aspects, partly of DOJ. | ||
| But it's almost like some of these Republicans seem to not realize that if they don't take the opportunity that America gave them with this huge red wave that happened in 2024, if they don't seize that opportunity, clean out the corruption, accomplish what needs to accomplish, maybe they don't realize that the tables will be turned and they will be targets. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if they don't understand what happened during the previous presidential election. | ||
| But Alex, do you see that, whether it's in Indiana, I know you go all over the country, is there some level of a Pollyanna attitude of, oh, they're not going to come after me. | ||
| I'm, you know, I'm squeaky clean, or I'm, it's like blinded by arrogance. | ||
| I don't know what it is, but I see it, and I think they don't realize that they're standing in the bullseye of a target, and they're about to arm their opponent. | ||
| They have to take this opportunity to disarm their opponents. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Well, I totally agree with you, and I was going to use the word arrogance. | ||
| There's definitely an arrogance among Republicans all across the country, and it's an unfounded arrogance because the Republicans Party has not had success. | ||
| Donald Trump has had success. | ||
| The only reason Republicans are in the House and in the Senate and in governor's mansions and in state legislators all across the country is because of Donald Trump and the MA movement. | ||
| And the MAGA movement doesn't owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest. | ||
| And so when the Republicans in office don't fight for the MAGA voters, when they don't fight for Republican voters, there's going to be a turnout problem. | ||
| And you saw that two Tuesdays ago in Virginia. | ||
| You saw that all across the country you're seeing that. | ||
| When Donald Trump's not on the ballot, you have to have a reason to get these people out to vote. | ||
| And they turn out for the fighters. | ||
| They turn out for those who have courage. | ||
| They don't turn out to turn off for those who have weak knees and always capitulate. | ||
| And so we absolutely need the Republicans to get smart or get tough, or we're going to have some serious problems in 26. | ||
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And Steve, I think you've been a great advocate. | |
| It's not simply Trump as an individual, because we know we have a terrible time getting out low-propensity, lower-information voters, unless President Trump's on the ticket. | ||
| That's why the midterms are so important. | ||
| But it's also just from a policy or your pitch. | ||
| In 28, I don't care who the candidate is. | ||
| Are we going to say this time we mean it? | ||
| This is my point. | ||
| We have a mandate. | ||
| We have the House, we have the Senate, we have a majority. | ||
| We have a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court. | ||
| We have the executive branch. | ||
| You're never, ever going to have this moment in time again. | ||
| And a majority of governors and a majority of state AGs and a majority of state houses and a majority of state legislatures are Republicans. | ||
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Hang on, hang on. | |
| And if you take the state party delegations in Congress, if you had to have a contingent election, you'd win there too. | ||
| We are never going to have this again, Bruce. | ||
| So it's your thoughts. | ||
| What don't they get about we got a mandate, you have to execute on the mandate, sir? | ||
| Well, your audience comes in so handy here, Steve, because you have the heart and soul of our movement that listens to your show every single day. | ||
| They pick up the phones and they call their legislators and they say, do the right thing. | ||
| And so I guess I have a call to action to your audience is identify the rhinos in Indiana who are obstructing. | ||
| Please pick up the phone and tell them to redistrict and do what the people want. | ||
| And when it comes to the Senate, like the president has been calling to abolish the filibuster. | ||
| We have the majority and we do have a mandate. | ||
| Donald Trump won every swing state. | ||
| He won the popular vote and not by a little margin. | ||
| He won by a substantial margin. | ||
| There's a mandate to advance the president's agenda. | ||
| Meanwhile, we have senators who refuse to get through to end the filibuster and it still feels like the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, which it shouldn't feel that way. | ||
| They were totally rejected in November. | ||
| And the Senate lets them get, they steamroll us. | ||
| And so we need to end the filibuster. | ||
| We need to redistrict. | ||
| And if we don't, there's going to be a massive enthusiasm problem in 2026. | ||
| And then the Senate will be like, oh, Golly, please, you know, you have to turn out for us or they're going to impeach Trump. | ||
| Like, I don't know how much, it's crazy. | ||
| The only lead on Trump, I don't know what the Republican Party looks like post-Trump because it's clear as day that they still haven't learned any of their lessons from the years past. | ||
| Yeah, they're delusional thinking, they're kind of schizophrenic, because on one hand, they're delusional, thinking they have more support than they actually do. | ||
| But then on the other hand, they're still running on the platform of, but at least we're not the Democrats. | ||
| I mean, that's terrible. | ||
| That's their platform. | ||
| I just want to mention before you leave, Bruceowitz, the fight now is Indiana. | ||
| And we're going to have some numbers and some names tomorrow on the Saturday morning show. | ||
| I don't want the whole posse. | ||
| But we have Ohio, Florida, Kansas, Nebraska, maybe Louisiana, North Carolina. | ||
| If we don't pick up a net 10 seats, and you've got Westmore calling some commission together in Maryland, Spanberg has already said we're going 10 to 1 in the Commonwealth of Virginia. | ||
| I don't want all the riders to understand you're having, it's 6'5 now. | ||
| You're having four seats blown out, okay? | ||
| And they're going to do it. | ||
| So, Bruce Witz, what is your call to action overall? | ||
| We'll have names and numbers tomorrow show and Monday show. | ||
| But right now, what's the call to action? | ||
| Well, your country needs you right now. | ||
| Your audience, our country needs you right now. | ||
| You have to be as engaged as ever. | ||
| You need to be putting pressure on the Republicans who are in positions of power and who have the ability to do the right thing. | ||
| And if they don't, then we need to turn out in massive numbers in 2026 to primary these people and put people in place who will have the courage. | ||
| And, you know, I think the entire MAGA movement is incredibly frustrated with what they're seeing come out of Republicans in Washington. | ||
| They're frustrated with what they're seeing come out of Republicans in the legislature. | ||
| And then they look at the Democrats in California and in Virginia who don't get weak need, who literally just bulldoze. | ||
| And we need to take, you have to learn a few lessons from them. | ||
| We have to fight for our people. | ||
| We need to fight for what is right. | ||
| And I think your audience is going to be so critically important to make sure that they do. | ||
| Alex, what's your social media? | ||
| What are your coordinates? | ||
| Where do people get you? | ||
| Follow me at Alex Brucewitz on all social media platforms. | ||
| And Steve, thanks for the opportunity to come on. | ||
| Keep fighting, man. | ||
| Your Twitter feed is on fire. | ||
| You got some attention out in Indiana today, we'll tell you that. | ||
| Bruce Witz, we love you. | ||
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| Keep fighting, man. | ||
| Thanks, Brother. | ||
| What don't they get as you go around the country? | ||
| We're at war. | ||
| This is a political war. | ||
| I genuinely know. | ||
| Don't they know that you could go to prison for many years? | ||
| Oh, I don't think they care. | ||
| I think—I wasn't planning on saying this, but I actually think there's a large part of the Republican Party or people in politics that are fine getting rid of those of us that— You said the quiet part out loud. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I did. | ||
| I didn't mean to, but you asked. | ||
| So I genuinely don't think they care. | ||
| They would be happy if a couple of the MAGA, the hardest core MAGA leaders, people like you that have been in the middle of the year. | ||
| Well, you were in prison? | ||
| I mean, seriously, how many people were like, I'm going to fight for you, Steve? | ||
| They were happy. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The great Matt Gaetz is taking some time out of the schedule to join us today from El Salvador. | ||
| Matt, thank you so much. | ||
| I think there's a lot of interest in what's going on off the coast. | ||
| You've got an amphibious ready group with 1,000 sailors and I think 3,000 fleet Marines. | ||
| Now you've had, I think the Gerald R. Four, the largest carrier we have, kind of a carrier strike group down there. | ||
| Can you explain to us what's going on, Matt, as you see it and what people down in Central America and Latin America think what's going on? | ||
| As Secretary Hegseth has announced, Operation Southern Spear, I can tell you Latin America is totally up for grabs. | ||
| You have the left-wing alliance of Cuba, Venezuela, increasingly Colombia and Honduras. | ||
| And then you have the populist nationalist vision for Latin America led by the president of El Salvador, Naib Bukele. | ||
| Mele is in that light, Marino and Panama in that light, also the president of Paraguay. | ||
| And there is a great battle of ideas going on here. | ||
| Now, my sources tell me that the battle over Venezuela may not even have to go kinetic if the United States is able to force Maduro into a number of decisions. | ||
| And those decisions could divide his coalition, weaken the extent to which military generals are reliant on him. | ||
| And here's what's interesting: I'm watching it down here now, Steve. | ||
| The Honduran election at the end of this month could very well be a test case for whether or not the military in Venezuela turns against the people because we expect a lot of Venezuela's tactics to be used by the political left in Honduras, where we think the populists would prefer a center-right government, but there's a left-wing government in power now. | ||
| How is that going to, how would that impact the military? | ||
| You think that that could be a wedge issue to drive a wedge between the military apparatus and Maduro himself? | ||
| Usually, when a regime is under siege, like Maduro is, they try to bring their military in closer. | ||
| They try to centralize whatever control they have over a capital or a jurisdiction. | ||
| But here we've seen Maduro take a very different tactical stance. | ||
| He's actually moved the military out into the country, hoping that if there were strikes on Caracas, he could create chaos and violence in the outer areas of Venezuela, and that that would give them some place in the hinterlands to control and occupy. | ||
| So, as he makes that decision, there are going to be a number of these key military leaders and generals who question it, who maybe leave Maduro's side, and he could be very vulnerable in Caracas, not to direct kinetic U.S. military intervention, but to simply the people there realizing that his days may be numbered. | ||
| Look, there's been some rationale about narco-terrorist all this. | ||
| Pete, I think, is briefed. | ||
| I mean, what are your sources on Capitol Hill tell you? | ||
| There have been some briefings. | ||
| They're not like trying to say we're doing a war powers briefing. | ||
| But where do people on Capitol Hill stand with this as far as they've been briefed about kinetic activity? | ||
| Because I hear there's a number of plans that the Pentagon has laid out and Heggs has laid out as a range of options, kinetic options for President Trump, sir. | ||
| That is the job of the Department of War. | ||
| My understanding is that there is very strong support on Capitol Hill for the operations you're currently seeing to take out narco-traffickers on their way to the United States. | ||
| Similarly, there's not a lot of love for Maduro. | ||
| There's not this sense that Maduro is never going to be a problem for the United States. | ||
| Look, you know me. | ||
| You know I'm not an invade everywhere, invite everyone Republican, but I care a lot more about what's going on in the Gulf of America than I do the Black Sea. | ||
| I think it's a lot more consequential to people in our country what's happening in Brazil and Honduras and Venezuela rather than what's happening in Bavaria or the Balkans or the hills of eastern Ukraine. | ||
| And President Trump has reinvigorated that interest with his renewed focus on the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| I think that that is going to pay dividends for our country for many years to come. | ||
| Of course, you and I know there is a latent resentment in Latin America over U.S. involvement that dates back to the days of United Fruit and Standard Fruit. | ||
| Now, they're very well-known brands of Dole and Chiquita. | ||
| But this is a different day. | ||
| And with populist nationalist leaders like Naeb Bukele rising in Latin America, this may be an opportunity to defeat the left. | ||
| And then here's what that means for the United States. | ||
| More countries here with strong borders, strong laws, not just a total playground for thugs and bandits and narco-traffickers. | ||
| And when our neighborhood is stronger, our country will be stronger. | ||
| This indeed is America first, and it brings our attention closer to home. | ||
| You mentioned the Monroe Doctrine. | ||
| Is this Monroe Doctrine 2.0? | ||
| Is there still some resistance to that? | ||
| I mean, when you talk to the leaders you know, particularly in Central America, what is the ideal state that they see this as far as Monroe Doctrine or fitting into what we're calling now hemispheric defense? | ||
| Look, they're excited by it because for so long when we made decisions on the Armed Services Committee where I served for eight years, it was all about CENTCOM. | ||
| It was all about Eurocom. | ||
| And often Southern command here in the Americas was left at the end of the whip, not having priorities funded, not having cooperation occur, not having capabilities built up. | ||
| Our sense is that when you back strong leaders like President Bukele, like Malay in Argentina, like Marino in Panama, then you're able to avoid circumstances where these bandits become MS-13 level problems for the United States of America. | ||
| There are 70,000 MS-13 currently incarcerated just miles from where I am now. | ||
| They're no trouble to the United States anymore, and strong leadership does that. | ||
| It doesn't require spilling American blood or treasure, but it does mean we have to be more serious about our own borders. | ||
| And when we get rid of the USAID and the NGOs, then you get rid of one of the principal irritants that get in the way of strong borders and rule of law. | ||
| It's many of those funders of the NGOs who are actually rooting for Maduro now. | ||
| The president said the other day, he was asked a question in one of these bylats, and he answered, he says, hey, Maduro's given, he's given us everything, right? | ||
| He's given us everything you can get. | ||
| You're close to Grinnell. | ||
| Grinnell's always had a theory down there that you can negotiate some removal of Maduro and even his military operation. | ||
| People are kind of confused in the MAGA movement. | ||
| Is this a show of force? | ||
| Are Pete and the guys really getting ready to take some kinetic action? | ||
| Is Grinnell getting a shot to do a negotiated deal? | ||
| I mean, what are your thoughts on that? | ||
| Yeah, I don't believe under President Trump, the mere moving of all of this materiel into the Gulf of America means that the die is already cast for kinetic conflict. | ||
| I do believe it creates leverage. | ||
| I do believe it creates uncertainty that Maduro's regime will survive. | ||
| And unlike so many places in Arabia where we were eager to topple a dictator and then had no plan for what's next, in Venezuela, they had an election. | ||
| Edmuto Gonzalez won that election by a margin of better than two to one. | ||
| And the military just came in, destroyed the ballots and indicated that they were still loyal to Maduro. | ||
| If that ceases to exist, there does remain a civil society, a civic infrastructure that I think will have serious challenges, but ultimately can prevail. | ||
| I don't believe that the future of Latin America is one that will be guided by the ideology of Maduro. | ||
| Whether or not he is on the next thing smoking to Russia or China or Turkey is probably yet to be seen. | ||
| But he's feeling more pressure. | ||
| He's having to make more decisions. | ||
| He's weaker. | ||
| We're stronger. | ||
| And so is the Alliance for the Populist Right in Latin America. | ||
| Matt, this weekend, I mean, people are kind of on a knife's edge back here in the Imperial Capitol about what moves are being made, particularly since we sent the carrier strike group down there. | ||
| What should you tell this audience to look for about whether this is going to go one way or the other? | ||
| maybe some more negotiations, maybe a Maduro agree to some deal, or if we're going to go in and actually do a strike. | ||
| Make us smart. | ||
| What should we be looking for? | ||
| I actually think one of the most likely scenarios here is Maduro's departure. | ||
| He takes some of the billions he's stolen. | ||
| He goes to a friendly place and continues rotating between great Turkish food and his Ozempic shots. | ||
| But I think that what I'm watching is how these circumstances in Venezuela influence the rest of the political dynamic in Latin America. | ||
| I actually don't want to see Central America go toward the leftists who want to see borders eroded, who want to inject all kind of wokeism into their societies, and who want to be open for business for the Chinese bribers or the narco-terrorists who would want to use this as a launching ground for the unrestricted warfare that is being waged against the United States. | ||
| That's what's important to me. | ||
| We think about Colombia, Steve. | ||
| That's a country America put a lot of money into in Planned Colombia. | ||
| It was the shining example of how cooperation with our country could work. | ||
| Right now, Colombia is being run by a drug-addled fool whose own foreign minister had to resign because the president of Colombia was coked up for two days in Paris and nobody could find him. | ||
| So that's an example of drift the wrong direction. | ||
| We're hoping to bring things back to the vision that President Bukele has seen so successful in El Salvador. | ||
| Matt, last question. | ||
| You were the best strategist we ever had about how to, you know, what the House should be doing, et cetera. | ||
| There's a lot of controversy the last couple of days. | ||
| Maybe the administrations have a little bit lost its way, not focused on domestic issues, particularly not focused on the economy enough. | ||
| What would be your guidance to the guys on the Hill to assist President Trump, sir? | ||
| The key coalition that elected President Trump were people under the age of 39 who were low and no propensity voters. | ||
| And the reason they voted for President Trump is because they believed he would attack a system that has attacked the American people for the better part of 40 years. | ||
| The zenith of our popularity with this key cohort for the midterms was when Doge was announcing cuts, when President Trump and Secretary Rubio were clearing out USAID, when Secretary McMahon was telling about half the people at the Department of Education that they didn't work there anymore, because that was creating the hope that there would be space for the rest of us in this world to be able to live without the tortures of excessive government. | ||
| And I think we've got to get back to those moments of great success. | ||
| I think the shutdown presented perhaps a bit more opportunity than was ultimately captured. | ||
| I blame Chuck Schumer and the Democrats for that principally, but I think there's plenty of time for us to win these midterms. | ||
| The tactical thing we got to focus on is the response to Gavin Newsom. | ||
| Because if we allow what Gavin Newsom has just done in California to stand, then we don't deserve the majority because we aren't willing to fight for it as much as the Democrats are. | ||
| But I remember being in Congress when Democrats had control, when they had subpoena power, they tormented the president. | ||
| They did everything they could to block his agenda, and they deprived the American people of our greatest successes. | ||
| We cannot allow that to happen again. | ||
| Matt Gates, you're on fire. | ||
| Your show's on fire. | ||
| What's your social media coordinates and how do we get to your nightly show? | ||
| I'm at Matt Gates on Twitter. | ||
| I make the Matt Gates show on One American News every night, 9 o'clock Eastern, 6 Pacific, and would love to have folks stop in and spend some time with us. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you doing great work. | ||
| And you got one of the best producers in the business, Vishnu. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Gates, giving it to you straight. | ||
| You deployed as a U.S. Marine to Afghanistan? | ||
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| Was in Afghanistan, I want to say seven, eight, nine months, something like that. | ||
| What are those Marines? | ||
| You know, we just had the 250th birthday of this greatest of all of our fighting units. | ||
| What are they thinking of right now? | ||
| As they sit off the coast of Venezuela, what are the Marines doing? | ||
| Well, the Marines are ready to fight always, anywhere, whether they're sitting off the coast of Venezuela or they're at a bar in Alexandria. | ||
| I mean, I want to fight, they'll fight you. | ||
| So I think the Marines are prepared for whatever President Trump wants to do. | ||
| As far as being American First, interventions, non-interventures, where do you come down in Venezuela? | ||
| You know, I don't like, I don't like war. | ||
| I don't, you know, I don't like that. | ||
| But I think if I would trust everyone. | ||
| You're trained for war, but you're. | ||
| But you don't want to use it. | ||
| Yeah, at least that's my view of it. | ||
| But if I were going to trust any president to use the strength of the American military to accomplish what needs to be accomplished while inflicting the least amount of harm, I think this is the president to do it. | ||
| This is the guy. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass. | |
| I want to talk about the book, but also what you're working at, Judicial Watch, a bunch of stuff breaking. | ||
| What's happening over there? | ||
| That's a great shop. | ||
| You got Tom Finn's the best at Farrell. | ||
| You guys, it's hammers. | ||
| I feel like I got so lucky landing there. | ||
| Judicial Watch is fantastic. | ||
| So, yeah, so there have been a handful of things. | ||
| What I released most recently was the whistleblower complaint that it started as a motion in my criminal defense case, a motion to disqualify Chris Mays. | ||
| It appears that she the Arizona, yes, the Arizona Attorney General. | ||
| And then I kind of handed it off to the Department of Justice. | ||
| I filed a motion to disqualify her because she brought in an organization called States United Democracy Center to help prosecute us. | ||
| She claims attorney client privilege. | ||
| She claimed it on the record. | ||
| She claimed it in emails. | ||
| They refused to turn everything over because they say that States United Democracy Center is part of the prosecution team. | ||
| And then, so I started digging into it. | ||
| Of course, it's the Normize and Mark Elias group. | ||
| It was started by, according to States United's website, they were started, they were an initiative of the Progressive State Leadership Committee, which I looked into them. | ||
| And on their 990, they have the same address, same leadership team, same bank account. | ||
| And they say, oh, the Democrat Attorney General's Association files our tax returns for us. | ||
| They're basically another name for the Democrat Attorney General's Association, which at the time of my indictment, I was senior counsel at the RNC. | ||
| So I would say that's a conflict of interest. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So I looked into the Democrat Attorney General's Association. | ||
| I was just curious. | ||
| I think that's a conflict in and of itself, but I wondered if any money changed hands. | ||
| So I looked up the contributions. | ||
| After the 2022 election, which was the election that got Chris Mays into office, the Democrat Attorney General's Association, after the election, in 2023 and in 2024, they funneled a total of $200,000 to Chris Mays, which was during the time of our grand jury investigation, which was during the time of our indictments. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It looks fishy to me. | ||
| And so I filed that whistleblower complaint with the Department of Justice. | ||
| And then naturally, I started looking into the other states, into Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada. | ||
| We just dropped about 6,000 pages of information that came from States United. | ||
| How can people get that someone people? | ||
| Go to the Judicial Watch website. | ||
| You can look up my whistleblower complaint there, and you can look up the latest release on Michigan. | ||
| Hang on, I'm going to come back to your book in a second. | ||
| Oh, so why are you taking the evening off? | ||
| Normally, you're the hardest working guy besides me. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Somebody tells you you're going to a UFC, a UFC fight? | ||
| Well, Steve, what can I say? | ||
| Tomorrow, we're going to me and Tanya Tay heading up to Madison Square Garden, New York City. | ||
| We're going to be joined by the likes of Benny Johnson and Tony Bobolinski and probably another star-scutted cast because what we're going to be doing is before the big UFC tomorrow night, Madison Square Garden, everybody remembers when Trump blew the roof off there last year. | ||
| We're going back with 3,000 Charlie Kirk Freedom t-shirts with the Turning Point crew. | ||
| We're going to be handing every single one out for free. | ||
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| So give me this again. | ||
| People, you and Benny Johnson, who else are you going to go in with 3,000? | ||
| Tony Bobolinski. | ||
| We're getting the pierogi gang back together, Steve. | ||
| Pierogi gang is getting back together, and we are going to be arriving at Madison Square Garden with pierogies, with Gwumpkey, with Kiabasi, and with 3,000 Charlie Kirk t-shirts. | ||
| You might even, we'll teach Benny Johnson eat some pierogi. | ||
| He'll like it. | ||
| But yeah, Tony Bobolinski will be there. | ||
| I'll be there. | ||
| Tanya Tay will be there. | ||
| It's going to be amazing. | ||
| 3,000 Freedom Charlie Kirk shirts. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| By the way, we're going to try to get you on. | ||
| I got some other stuff I want to go through on Ukraine and other hotspots around the world. | ||
| Try to track you down tomorrow. | ||
| Where can people, if Benny Johnson's going to be there, I know it'll be live stream, right? | ||
| Benny will have his live stream. | ||
| Where can people, where can people, what are your coordinates? | ||
| Where can people get you? | ||
| Where can people get you? | ||
| You'll be up at Jack Pesobic. | ||
| We're going to be all over the place. | ||
| And by the way, just as special war room, since we're going for the announcements, we'll do another special announcement here for the War Room posse. | ||
| You heard it here first. | ||
| I will be appearing as a special guest on the Megan Kelly tour next week in Bakersfield, California. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Give us any details about that? | ||
| So this is her Bakersfield, California stop. | ||
| It's going to be next Thursday in California. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| We'll get it up there. | ||
| That'll be good. | ||
| We'll see you tomorrow, Jack. | ||
| Jack Pasovic, thank you. | ||
| Look forward to tomorrow night watching you guys at UFC, and hopefully I can get you. | ||
| I'll talk to you later tonight, get you on the tomorrow show, talk some geopolitics. | ||
| Thanks, guys. | ||
| Good to see you, Christina. | ||
| You too, Jack. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Jack Pasovic. | ||
| Talk to me about the book. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| How are we doing? | ||
| Let's get it. | ||
| Can we get the cover of the book up there? | ||
| The cover of the book, and by the way, can we get the poster that from Dan Fluette? | ||
| Dan Fluette, my producer, my film producer for years and years and years, took all the great photos for his book, right? | ||
| And he took the cover of your book, which is amazing, if we can get that up there. | ||
| Tell me about the book. | ||
| Why should people buy this book? | ||
| Yeah, Defiant. | ||
| Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the left's ongoing law fair. | ||
| I was President Trump's custodian of records for Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| I was on site during the raid. | ||
| I met with the Department of Justice and FBI about two months prior. | ||
| I was one of two people that did. | ||
| You know how corrupt the whole thing is. | ||
| You know how corrupt the whole thing is. | ||
| You were there at the front saying, hey, come down, and you know absolutely everything the FBI did. | ||
| Got text messages, emails, it's all in there. | ||
| The big takeaway that I really want people to take away is a lot of times you look at the media and you go, you know, I know they're lying to us. | ||
| Everyone assumes the media is lying. | ||
| I want, you will be floored at how much they're lying. | ||
| It's not like a 90%, 10% truth. | ||
| It's 180 degrees from the truth, from what actually happened versus what they reported to you. | ||
| And I really want people to understand that I'm going to be able to do that. | ||
| But this gets back to the point. | ||
| The reason I want people to buy the book and go to Amazon is that it gets back to what Bruce Witz and Gates were saying: that we've had an opportunity, we have a mandate. | ||
| People want to see this. | ||
| I know we get the grand jury in Southern Florida, but people want to see action at taking this thing apart. | ||
| Yeah, and I think what's so significant about that is, you know, what we're seeing coming out of the Department of Justice right now with Bolton and Comey and Letitia James, like, okay, you know, if they broke the law, they deserve to be prosecuted, whatever. | ||
| Those are not the cases that people want to see. | ||
| They want to see the cabal that raided Mar-a-Lago, that allowed the Jackson. | ||
| The ground conspiracy. | ||
| That's what we want to see. | ||
| Do you believe that's going in? | ||
| You know, Mike Davis says, hey, you got this group down there. | ||
| Do you believe that's happening now in Fort Pierce or South Florida, wherever it's going? | ||
| I sure hope so. | ||
| I haven't seen anything on it. | ||
| I know they're keeping a close hold, but I have not seen anything that leads me to believe that's what's happening, but maybe it is. | ||
| Judicial Watch, the best. | ||
| Where do people get your Judicial Watch? | ||
| What are your coordinates? | ||
| How do you get the book? | ||
| How do you get to your Twitter? | ||
| All your content. | ||
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| The book's available, Amazon, Barnes ⁇ Noble, wherever books are sold. | ||
| My social media is at Christina underscore Bob, B-O-B-B. | ||
| Website, Christinabob.com. | ||
| And yeah, you can find me there. | ||
| Thanks for doing it. | ||
| You're just in the neighborhood. | ||
| Just a neighbor. | ||
| Just stop by. | ||
| Hey, you're now the co-host. | ||
| We're going to say hi. | ||
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It's not like next man up, but hey, you never know when you need some co-hosts. | |
| Thank you so much for doing this. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
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