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Nov. 14, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4927: Is Israel Seeking Sovereignty; MAGA Far From Dead
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laura loomer
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steve bannon
20:31
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chris hoar
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dan fleuette
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joel gilbert
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trevor comstock
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benjamin netanyahu
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on this people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
It is Friday, 14th, September, Year of the Lord, 2025.
Only hitters only today.
Roger Kimball, Raheem Kassam.
Laura Loomer is going to join us momentarily.
I was so engrossed.
Oh, and Joe Lavarnier from Treasury.
Very smart guy over there.
Really the kind of the head messaging guy for Secretary Besant.
Haven't done any reads.
Birch Gold, take your phone out.
Now more than ever, you're seeing the turbulence right now.
What, Michael Burry, the big short guy?
Remember the, played by, I think, Christian Bale in the movie?
The big short guy shut down, in fact, on the front page of the, he shorted Palantir and he shorted NVIDIA the other day.
Big short investor Burry Schutze, he shut down his after shorting them, and the shorts were in huge positions.
But after shorting them, I guess as a test, he closed his, he closed his fund.
He said he couldn't, he doesn't know how to value these artificial intelligence companies anymore.
And I'll get to this whole thing that was in Zero Hedge yesterday about the $5 trillion of capital costs.
And this is not like some 10-year projection.
This is like the here and now.
$5 trillion just to build out the data centers and the energy, right?
And you don't think your electric bill is going to be hit?
Oh, wait for it.
But worse than that, of the $5 trillion they know they need now, $1 trillion has got to come from you.
It's a hole that they can't, because they don't want to sell equity.
They don't want to be diluted.
So they look for you suckers to pay for it.
And you get none of the upside.
This is the grossest example since the 2008 bailouts of the system looking for to socialize the risk.
That's the way they're mitigating the risk.
They're going to socialize the risk.
That's a fancy term saying that's on your shoulders.
You're the full faith and credit of the United States government.
Any of these guarantees?
And they're going to keep all the upside.
They keep the ups.
You mitigate the risk.
Well, we're not going to allow that to happen.
You've been treated like suckers for too long, so that's not going to happen.
But that's the plan.
Very scary.
And of course, the advances in AI, we have no earthy idea what's happening in these labs right now because you have more regulation on Capitol Hill to open a nail salon than any of the four frontier labs have at all on artificial intelligence.
Okay.
Laura Loomer joins us.
This is the reason I love Laura Loomer.
Courage.
Courage is the virtue of which all the other virtues rest.
And one thing you say about Loomer, she's one of the most courageous people I know, an absolute warrior.
So Laura, I just want to start off.
I mean, you're bona fides as being one of the leading voices of anti-Muslim Brotherhood, of radical Islam.
I mean, you've been sued.
You've had to pay fines.
Nobody came to your defense.
One of the biggest defenders of Israel, one of the biggest defenders of the Jewish people.
But always in a context, you put it in a context.
One of the biggest contexts is about the Muslim Brotherhood and what they're trying to do around Israel with all these radical Turk, Muslim, and Arab nations.
On Tuesday, I believe it was, you came out with a couple of tweets, but you talked about the sovereignty of Israel and to really have Israel not be a protectorate or quote unquote not be the greatest ally, but to be an independent or sovereign nation and needed to stop this $4 billion a year, whatever the number is of American arms.
And it needed really to make a statement that you're an independent nation and you're going to make your own independent decisions.
And hey, you're always an ally of the United States, but you're an ally like any independent nation, any sovereign nation.
On Thursday morning, Axios, who I think is pretty dialed in over there, has this article, SCOOP exclusive, that there is now a 20-year deal that is the 20-year memorandum of understanding that there would be the commitment of the $4 billion or $5 billion, whatever it is, for 20 years that would have some tweaks of some America first language in it, but essentially would be doubling down on basically Israel's protectorate.
And as I read that, I go, gosh, I think they took Laura Loomber pretty seriously because somebody senior in the Israeli government just put a shot across her bow and they did an axis.
Now, two minutes after Axis, the Times of Israel, every big paper had it.
And this thing had been briefed.
You could tell they were talking to senior peoples, senior people in the Netanyahu government.
unidentified
Then yesterday afternoon, an Australian reporter who first I told you that the story was fake.
steve bannon
Oh, yes, yes.
Yes, yes.
I should say she texted me and said, this story is totally phony.
It's false.
It's not happening.
Then a couple hours later, Bibi came out and said, absolutely, it's false.
In fact, and we'll play the Bibi thing in a little while.
In fact, we're essentially embracing Laura Loomer's plan.
We need our own independence, our own sovereignty.
We don't need the money.
We want to wean ourselves off it.
So just walk us through behind the scenes.
What in the hell happened in Israel this week that you started this kind of movement to get your sovereignty?
But there was obviously some senior folks somewhere that convinced Axios in the Times of Israel that, in fact, the exact opposite was happening.
unidentified
Man.
laura loomer
Well, obviously we've seen a pivot, right, Steve?
There's a lot of anti-Israel rhetoric on the left and also now on the right, where we're seeing extreme hostility towards not just the state of Israel, but also Jewish people.
I called this Israel derangement syndrome.
And I know you and I kind of got into a back and forth last time I was on your show.
But my point was that we need to start focusing on the bigger picture.
People want to criticize Israel.
When you break down the number and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the value of aid, you have $3.8 billion per year.
Sometimes it's 3.3, sometimes it's 3.8 that we give Israel.
Now, there was a report, Steve, that came out the other day that showed that our return on that investment is about $48 billion a year, whether that's through weapons sales or technology or investments in pharmaceuticals, whatever it may be.
We certainly get a lot more out of our relationship with Israel than we give to Israel every single year.
However, doesn't matter what the numbers are.
There's no convincing a very large fraction of Gen Z and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives that our relationship with Israel is beneficial.
That's not going to change the fact that Israel is always going to be our ally, as you just pointed out.
And so when I was in Israel, I met with military officials.
I met with members of the Knesset.
I met with high-level Israeli politicians.
And I had discussions about this.
And ultimately, what I said is, well, why don't you just embrace cutting off aid to Israel?
What's the worst that could happen?
You're a sovereign nation.
I mean, if the United States is getting $48 billion a year out of this relationship with Israel and our investment into Israel, then it's our loss, really.
It's our loss as the United States of America if America doesn't want to appreciate the return on investment with the aid that we're providing Israel every single year.
I also told these officials when I met with them that I don't think that Israel does a good enough job highlighting the benefit of our relationship with Israel.
What do I mean by that?
Well, people say, oh, well, they're just trying to interfere in our elections with APAC.
First of all, I'm not here to defend APAC.
I think that AIPAC should actually have to register with FARA.
However, when we cut off aid to Israel, that's the great thing.
We're not going to need FARA anymore.
We're not going to, excuse me, we're not going to need APAC anymore because the whole point of AIPAC is to convince politicians in Washington, D.C. to support Israel.
So this whole debate about, you know, Israeli interference in our elections, poof, it's gone.
It disappears.
And so we're able to do two things simultaneously.
We're able to help Israel truly become a sovereign nation.
We're going to take these golden handcuffs, as I like to call them, off of the Israelis because America first means not dictating what other countries do.
If you're truly a sovereign nation, and I know that you'll agree with me on this, Steve, America first means not telling other countries what to do.
And you made that argument during the two-year war between Israel and Hamas.
And people say, well, we're paying for those, you know, those weapons that are being used to bomb people in Gaza.
So we have every right to tell Israel what to do as it relates to not bombing Iran or not leveling Gaza.
Well, if we're not giving Israel $3.8 billion a year, who are we?
Who are we, Steve, to tell Israel what they can and can't do?
So when it comes to taking out the Ayatollah, when it comes to going into Gaza, if they violate the ceasefire, Americans are no longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps assassinating the Ayatollah or flattening Gaza, right?
As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel, that's what it means if we're truly going to be America first and we're not going to be giving Israel the $3.8 billion a year and benefiting from the $48 billion in return.
And so I was pleased to see Netiyahoo my argument.
steve bannon
Before we get to the punchline, I want to make sure we go back because there's a lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how weak is Trump's understanding of geopolitics or national security?
He's got Laura Loomer coming in and telling about the national security guys are not really America first.
They're neocons.
But when you went to Israel, you actually had senior level people that took meetings.
Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer?
Why would they take a meeting with Laura Loomer and have Laura Loomer talk to them about what their sovereignty is?
That's pretty, that's a scoop right there.
Why would they do that?
laura loomer
Well, look, I think that a lot of the lies that are pushed out against me, they're malicious.
I think a lot of them are spewed against me because I am Jewish and because I'm a woman.
I mean, I'm not trying to parrot feminist talking points right now, but there is this animosity towards outsiders.
I mean, people have animosity towards you, Steve.
And because I'm not an elected official and because I'm not an official advisor, people think that I shouldn't have a seat at the table or I shouldn't be able to share my opinion.
But, you know, I have nearly 2.2 million followers on X.
I know that I've been doing this work for a very long time.
I have earned the trust of the MAGA base.
And obviously, the president takes into account what I have to say.
Oftentimes, the president will call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for my advice.
He's admitted this publicly when asked by reporters.
And so why wouldn't?
Why wouldn't politicians in Israel and high-level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me?
Why wouldn't they?
I mean, I am one of the most outspoken and well-known Jewish conservative leaders in America, and I am approaching this from an America-first perspective.
I agree.
We're $38 trillion in debt.
We need to have a conversation about cutting off aid, not just to Israel, but to all countries.
We don't need to be the sugar daddy of every single country in the world when we really need to be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign.
However, it's a double-edged sword.
If Americans are going to say, we hate Israel, we don't want to be giving aid to Israel anymore.
We don't want our money funding Israel's wars.
We don't want to die for Israel.
I mean, there's all these ridiculous talking points about how Americans are dying for Israel when we don't have troops on the ground in Israel.
If anything, Israelis are dying for Americans.
You know, one of the things that I did, Steve, when I was in Israel is I met a lot of IDF soldiers, and they're on the front lines doing the counter-terrorism intelligence work that we are benefiting from with our shared intel agreement with the Israeli government.
And so there's a huge PTS issue.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
By the way, we are going to have Brother Katz is going to be on here.
11 o'clock next week.
We're going to have Katz on While Israel Slept.
I'm going to do the second half of the interview.
We did the first half about the intelligence failures.
We're going to talk about the IDF and particularly in the first couple of days of the October 7th situation.
A magnificent book.
If you have not purchased While Israel Slept, it's absolutely astounding.
A great book.
Real quick, I'm going to hold you through the break, Laura.
But as you're going into Israel and meeting with senior level people and you're talking about, hey, look, guys, we want to be a sovereign nation.
The United States is going to, America first is going to do what they're going to do.
We got to be Israel first and do what we're going to do.
Give me a minute on this regular.
How is this going to be?
laura loomer
When I say we, I just want to make it very clear.
I'm not Israeli.
When I say we, I'm approaching this from a perspective as an American.
I'm not Israel first.
I'm America first.
But this is in the best interest of America and also Israel.
We're $38 trillion in debt, and the Israelis understand this.
They understand that there's an optics issue right now.
I don't think that this is an issue that's been created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality.
I don't think that we're going to be able, it doesn't matter how much money the Israeli government throws at this, I don't think that we're going to be able to convince a large portion of the American voting population that our relationship with Israel is beneficial.
I believe that it is beneficial.
I mean, the math is pretty clear.
We get a $48 billion return on our investment for the aid that we give them, Steve.
And we get enormous amounts of counterterrorism intelligence that is protecting Americans from the threat of global Islamic jihad.
However, you can say this.
You can present all the graphs, all the evidence, show people the numbers.
There's a lot of people out there who truly do have Israel derangement syndrome.
And that's the argument that I was trying to make on your show last time I was on.
And so I think that they were appreciative and grateful.
And I found out there's actually a lot of Israelis who agree with you.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Hang on one second.
We're just going to go to a commercial break.
Laura Loomer's in the war room.
Short break.
Return in a moment.
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steve bannon
There's a huge article in Newsweek right now about our guest, Laura Loomer.
Laura came out a couple of days ago and said, MAG is far from dead and listed out different policies that got to work better, et cetera.
It's just amazing.
They have a huge article, and they have a quote from Karim Jean-Pierre.
Remember, we called her Zen Master because she never talked about anything real.
Called kind of very zen.
She referred to Laura Lumer as hateful, repugnant and racist.
Laura Lumer, while you're in Israel, why would senior understanding, you're a huge influencer, you've got the president's ear you you, you are have a very um um set, um convictions about America first, also about the mega movement, policies like H-1b visas, etc.
But why would they take your discussion with them as um about their sovereignty and take it seriously and actually look like they're going to move to do something to the to the point of people that countered that took a long time to brief Axios and brief the Times OF Israel to counter what you were saying right, and to do it in in a really a huge kind of a middle finger way.
Hey baby, how about this?
A 20, not?
Are we not going to stop taking American aid because we want to stop being part?
You know we're going to make our own decisions and not have America part of that, but we're going to do a 20-year deal and maybe even do a bigger deal.
laura loomer
Uh ma'am well look, I think that there's there's no discounting the fact that there's a huge business and money-making opportunity right now for people pushing Anti-Israel rhetoric.
As I said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome.
This concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth Steve, over their Anti-Israel, over their Anti-Israel sentiments would lie, but it's not.
I'm explaining to you.
They lied, they lied, they put out a fake story.
steve bannon
You're saying.
You're saying actually no, but that story was clearly given to them.
That Axios would have never provided.
laura loomer
I'm trying to answer your question and explain why I think they're doing this.
I think that they knew that all of the Israel haters were going to jump on that article, which is exactly what they did.
I mean, everybody who hates Israel posted that article and they were like, see, you know the the the, the United States government is completely controlled by Israel.
They tried to say that this was tied to the new Epstein emails.
There were all these conspiracies that came out and meanwhile it was a completely fabricated story.
I mean, Barack Ravid completely made up the story and I know for a fact because they want to cut off aid.
steve bannon
Laura Laur, Laur.
You're telling me the Times OF Israel.
I think it was the Jerusalem POST.
You're telling me the most reputable publications in Israel, all three with Axios and a guy.
Quite frankly, has been pretty accurate.
They made it up out of whole golf.
This was given to them.
laura loomer
How do we know that they went to them?
How do we know they went to them?
I don't trust anything that Axios says.
They can say that people went to them all they want.
It doesn't necessarily mean that they actually went to them.
steve bannon
Are you make, are you making the case that Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhey and what they've done with was it what's his name Rabat, the guy that covers Israel that they literally made up a story of whole cloth just because they saw your tweets and what you were talking about Israeli sovereignty, they made.
unidentified
I don't know.
laura loomer
I don't know.
I don't know why it was made up, but I do know from my conversations with individuals at the White House press shop that Uh, Barack is constantly making up lies and he's a huge headache for the White House and he's constantly pushing out fake news, and so I wouldn't put it.
Past them.
I mean, why would they come out with this report?
And then 20 minutes later, you have Prime Minister Netanyahu doing an interview with Aaron Milan.
It just doesn't make much sense to me.
I think it's strange.
steve bannon
I don't think it's strange at all.
I think if people inside the Israeli government say, hey, we don't want this woman who's very powerful to start setting a narrative that we're breaking off, a lot of the people over there don't want to break off at all.
Your idea of sovereignty, they would say, would be close to suicide for the country.
They're not ready for it.
laura loomer
Well, a lot of people do.
I met a lot of people in Israel that actually do.
I met a lot of people in Israel, including officials, who have told me that this has been a discussion amongst the people of Israel for quite some time.
It's actually a big national debate in Israel about whether or not Israel would be better off because there's a lot of people that don't want to be handcuffed by the United States military telling them you can't bomb the Ayatollah.
You can't go into Gaza.
A lot of people.
steve bannon
But hang on.
Listen, it is a debate.
Rabbi Walucki, Rabbi is going to be, he's in the States next week.
He's going to be by here also.
We're going to get a time.
He and I have had this debate.
He says, hey, he said now for six months or eight months, it's time now.
You got to cut it off.
We got to go our own direction.
My point is, it is a debate.
It's going to be a bigger debate.
The people on the other side of the debate from you basically went to Axios and said, hey, we're actually going to work a 20-year deal.
I don't believe at all that the Times of Israel, the Jerusalem Post, and Axios would sit there and just go make up a story, right?
That was a total baldface lie.
Somebody clearly said to them that we're going to do this and we're going to work on this.
You don't believe that?
You think they just made it up?
laura loomer
Well, I don't know why they would do that.
I mean, the person to go to is Prime Minister Netanyahu himself.
I mean, why wouldn't they just take it from the horse's mouth directly?
He said that this story was a lie.
I mean, that's what he said when he did this interview.
steve bannon
And so let's play it.
laura loomer
That would mean, logically speaking, that the story was made up.
steve bannon
No, I think what happened, look, maybe it didn't happen.
I think what happened, there are people in the government that want to counter what you're saying, which is about it, because it's a big step.
It's a big psychological step of what you're saying.
But people clearly believe that smart.
And I think Netanyahu looked out there and said, hey, I think our program, let's play what he said.
Can we play the clip of Netanyahu?
unidentified
You were a few moments late, clearly running a country, so you're forgiven.
But I'm glad you were because this headline just dropped.
And I want to start the interview by asking for your reaction to it.
It's on the Axios news site and it says, Scoop, Israel seeks 20-year military aid deal with U.S. with America-first tweaks.
Is that correct?
benjamin netanyahu
I don't know what they're talking about.
My direction is the exact opposite.
You know, when I first became prime minister in 1996, I went to the U.S. Congress and we were receiving financial aid and military aid.
And I said, first thing is, you know, we're going to build a high-tech, free-market, capitalist economy.
We don't need the financial aid.
Phase it out.
And everybody gasped, how dare he?
You know, this young prime minister, eager for a PR title, he's giving up billions of dollars.
And I was happy to do it, and I was right to do it.
So we got rid of that.
Now I want to make our arms industry independent, totally as independent as possible.
So my direction is the exact opposite.
I don't know who's talking for Israel.
I do.
So follow what I say, not what is put forward in some leaks that are not true.
unidentified
So, Prime Minister, you think it's time to cut military aid entirely?
steve bannon
Saura, right there.
He's saying it's time to cut military aid, agrees with you 100% about Israel's sovereignty.
Where does this go from here?
laura loomer
Well, look, hopefully, this is actually going to be able to be implemented.
It's going to obviously take some time to implement this policy.
I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
But hopefully, there can be this discussion so that by the end, at least, of the end of the Trump administration over these next three years, we can see an end of aid to Israel.
I don't think it's going to be immediate.
I think that you would probably agree with me.
It's going to take some time to figure out how this is going to work exactly.
But ultimately, I think that the United States of America will be better off and Israel will be better off.
And I don't think that we're going to be necessarily financially better off because we're going to be forfeiting the $48 billion that we get on this return for our investment in Israel.
But clearly, the issue of giving aid to Israel has been the center of a lot of political tension and conflict in our own country.
And so, hopefully, this can take the temperature down.
We'll see a decrease in conspiracy theories.
We'll see a decrease in anti-Semitism in our country.
We'll hopefully see a decrease in anti-Semitism around the world.
And hopefully, all of these people who hate Israel and these America-only isolationist types who truly say that they are America first or America-only, as Marjorie Trader Green likes to call herself, maybe they will be consistent and they will also say, All right, let's cut off aid to all countries.
Because if we're going to end all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just end all aid to every other country, Steve.
It can't just be, you know, ganging up on Israel for the sake of ganging up on Israel.
I agree.
Let's end all aid to Israel, but let's also end all of the aid to every other country as well.
unidentified
I think that's the America First perspective.
steve bannon
Would you be open to set aside your time as an investigative reporter and influencer if the president asked you to be the American ambassador to Israel during this transition period, ma'am?
laura loomer
I mean, look, if the president asked me to serve, I'd be happy to serve.
I think that I would be better suited helping the president handle issues of domestic policy.
I mean, if I was working in the White House right now, I don't think that we would see the president talking about the need to increase H-1B visas or to give 600,000 visas to Chinese students who we all know are just going to be Chinese spies.
And we certainly wouldn't be seeing ISIS terrorists in the White House because I would be pushing back heavily.
I think that with my talents and being as plugged in with the base as I am, that I would be better suited working in the White House, assisting and advising the president on domestic policy.
But hey, if the president asked me to assist, I'd be happy to assist.
Although I think that Ambassador Huckabee is doing a great job as it is.
steve bannon
Well, we'll leave that.
We differ on that, but we'll leave that.
Laura, where do people go to become one of your followers on Twitter and where they get your podcast that comes on a couple times a week?
laura loomer
Yeah, they can follow me on X at Laura Loomer and also on X at Loomer Unleash.
And then my show, Loomer Unleashed, is every Tuesday and Thursday on Rumble, rumble.com/slash Laura Loomer.
Again, that's rumble.com/slash Laura Loomer.
And if you want to review all of my exclusive articles and investigative reports, you can follow me on my website, lumered.com.
Again, that's lumered.com.
And that's where people can support my work.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Any of these journalists that come out to attack Laura Loomer influence, just look at the week in Israel.
It started with her tweets.
You then had Axios, The Times of Israel.
I believe the Jerusalem Post all put out definitive stories, totally reverse with the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu yesterday with the interview with the Australian Reporter completely backed the Laura Loomert play.
Laura, thank you so much for joining us.
Short break.
Joe Gilbert, next in the War Room.
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I got you out here on another great piece.
When Joel Gilbert gets on a topic, he's like a dog with a bone.
He's on Eric Swalwell, but he's been on this for a while.
Give me a minute on Lara Loomer going to Israel and saying, hey, look, guys, let's be a sovereign nation.
Let's just cut the aid, do it ourselves.
And then, you know, as an ally, we can talk to America and keep them informed.
But if they're not paying for things and we're not dragging them into things, we can do what we want, including take down Tehran if we so want.
Your thoughts, sir?
joel gilbert
I think maybe she was effective because it's not really a new argument.
In Israel for 40 or 50 years, especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time Israel gets in a war or makes a peace deal, it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid or offering to, or saying they're going to withdraw aid if Israel doesn't agree.
So even the war in Gaza was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2006 or 2007, in which the United States promised more aid.
The Egyptian peace treaty was based on the United States promising massive aid, and that hasn't worked out at all.
Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel.
They helped Hamas get armed withdrawing from southern Lebanon.
Israel withdrew without any security arrangements whatsoever.
Again, in Israel, they felt that the United States was unduly influencing Israel because of promises for extra aid or promises or threats to withdraw aid.
So it's not a new argument, and a lot of Israelis think they'll be better off without the U.S. financial aid in the US.
steve bannon
We'll have a discussion later, Gilbert, because you know this pretty well.
But that's also a difference of understanding of the Jewish donors to the Republican Party and actually people that live in Israel and have to deal with the reality.
Let's put a pin in that and we'll come back to it because I don't want to run out of time on your Swalwell.
So the president, the Justice Department and others are going after Swalwell, just like Tish James and others that have these fraudulent mortgages and fraudulent bank statements and defrauding banks for lower interest rates.
And he's making a case.
He's president's number one enemy and they're coming after him.
We said yesterday on the show, with Mike Davis, I had Natalie was sitting as a co-host yesterday.
Why are we not going after Fang Fang?
I mean, the bigger problem with Swalwell is not his mortgage.
That's, I'm sure, something that people get to the bottom of, but that he was open information to the Chinese Communist Party.
He was honeypotted.
And you've done some research on all of this.
What do you got for it?
You got a brilliant article up on Gateway Punt.
What do you got, sir?
joel gilbert
Well, don't forget Dan Feinstein was also penetrated by the Chinese intelligence for many years, and not much really happened.
Look, Swalwell, we took a look at his mortgage.
He declared he bought and purchased a home in Washington, D.C. that he declared is his principal residence while not having any verifiable address in California.
According to the U.S. Constitution, you have to be an inhabitant of the state that you represent.
California law, Code 349, you actually have to have a physical address and live there.
Suawal has big financial problems.
I looked at his financial disclosures since 2011 when he entered Congress.
He still has not paid off his student loans.
He still has the same debt to American Express, Chase Bank.
He's a financial disaster.
And that might be why he can't maintain a home in California like he's supposed to.
And in today's article, I wrote about how his 2010 divorce, him and his wife were exchanging and bickering over can openers and salad tossers and plates, clearly because he didn't have any money.
So even though he's made $174,000 a year in Congress, he's never paid off any debt.
So that makes the whole Chinese spying FangFang thing of more concern.
Where is this guy's money going and why can't he pay off debts and why can't he maintain a home in California?
steve bannon
Just give the audience a minute on the FangFang situation.
Why is that something that China hawks and people that are anti-CCP like Natalie Winters, War Room, Bannon, others continue to harp on?
Why do people harp on the Fang Fang situation?
What's such a big deal about it?
joel gilbert
Well, there's a long-term influence operation by different countries, sometimes Russia and certainly China, to penetrate U.S. political parties and influence them by placing influencers inside people that they think have potential to become president one day.
Look, Tim Walsh in Minnesota used to go to China every year for many, many years.
He was under great influence from the Chinese.
Fang Feng, the FBI, apparently felt she was some kind of part of a spying operation, and they had to tell Eric Swalwell to get rid of her, which he did.
But then Swalwell was kicked off the intelligence committee because of the risk that he posed.
So it's been a long-term threat.
The FBI is constantly following around.
You know, how can they follow around 600,000 Chinese students?
But there's definitely an effort to penetrate the American political system and influence our politics from Joe Biden to Tim Walsh to Eric Swalwell.
steve bannon
Just a no, before he let's go.
Authorities came to him and notified him that this was a problem.
And this is the reason that he basically broke off the relationship or at least toned it down.
joel gilbert
That's all we know.
We know very little about it.
Even the Diane Feinstein, her driver for 20 years, apparently worked for the Chinese Communist Party.
And that was the last we heard about it.
So we don't get enough information about this stuff.
And Eric Swalwell and Tim Walsh are still serving, and they won't answer any questions.
So it's definitely frustrating not to be able to really find out what happened in these situations and why there's never any prosecutions.
steve bannon
If you want to see the amazing story of his divorce in 2010, where they're arguing over the kitchen utensils that leads to, I think, some of the current problems he's got, it's Joel Gilbert, and it's up on the great Jim Hoffs Gateway Pundit today.
Joel, we'll have you back on.
I want to get your thoughts more about what Laura's talking about and this movement over in Israel about Israeli sovereignty.
Joel, where do people go to get all of your current content?
joel gilbert
My website for all my films, highway61ent.com.
I've got my new film with Roseanne Barr about her life story, RoseanneIsAmerica.com, and Joel S. Gilbert on X, Joel S. Gilbert.
steve bannon
By the way, the Roseanne Barr thing is amazing.
Fantastic film.
Joel, thank you so much.
Appreciate your brother.
Thank you, brother.
unidentified
Thanks so much.
steve bannon
Yeah, we've got that on Warwarm Films now.
unidentified
In fact, is Dan Floyd up?
steve bannon
Dan, can I get Dan Floyd?
Speaking of War Room Films, even as I speak, Dan Floyd, is Dan Floyd going to join us?
Dan, do we have Roseanne Barr finally up on War Room Films?
dan fleuette
We have it, and it's one of the best documentaries I've seen in years.
It's really, really, really great.
And I encourage everybody to go watch it.
steve bannon
And it's up.
If you need a shot of energy, Roseanne Barr is it.
Now, and Dan, you're also, we're working on a bunch of stuff.
You're going to be down.
You're working on some of this.
We got the J6 Prison Chorus or choir that's going to put out at Amfest.
And of course, Amfest is now mega-sold out.
So unlike previous times, we had the War Room posse.
It was the first guys that got in.
And when we put it up in mid-August, we're able to get in and get tickets, but it's obviously sold out.
The J6 Prison Course is going to release their song, that incredible song, at Amfest, I think on the 19th of December.
And then the evening, I think it's the evening before January 6th, I think that's the 5th, if my math is correct, they're going to release their album, and we'll be a part of that in Real America Voice music.
Dan, you've also got something else we've worked on.
I have a copy here in the War Room.
Everybody that comes in is blown away by it.
Show folks what you got and how can people get one?
dan fleuette
So yeah, one of the main things that I try to do, and I'm so appreciative of the efforts of War Room, is, and you, you've always been a supporter of the arts.
And what we see nowadays is people who would consider themselves right-wing artists, whether they make right-wing art or not, just if they have those values, we see them being canceled.
They can't get any kind of like commissions, work.
They're getting fired from jobs.
They can't get gallery shows.
They have a hard time distributing content, whether it's films or books or you just name it.
And War Room's really stepping into the breach there.
And it's really important for this movement.
As Andrew Breitbart liked to say, politics is downstream of culture.
And if you want to change your politics, you've got to change your culture.
And one of the things that I try to do, you know, I recently did the Rebels Rhodes and Outlaws portrait book of War Room, but I also talk to artists every day.
And we do a lot of collaborations and what have you.
And this is one of the ones I did with an artist down in Palm Beach called Sean Daikonia.
And he took some of the images from the Rebels book and we kind of laid it out in this spaghetti western kind of old style wanted poster.
And I think it looks really wonderful.
And people can get it just by simply going to the website, warroom.org, and it's right there.
They can click on it and order a copy.
We've got a lot of options, whether you like canvases or prints, whether it's framed, you want to frame it yourself, whatever.
But it's right there for anybody who's interested.
steve bannon
If people order this, can they get it before the holidays?
In other words, they want to make this a gift for somebody to put it on the Christmas tree.
So, okay, where do they go right now?
They don't need a promo code.
Just go, where do they go?
dan fleuette
They can go to warroom.org, and it's right there.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Okay, I'd love that poster, by the way.
Everybody comes in.
We have one standing right here.
Right when you walk into the war room itself, you say to people, wow, what is this?
Or is my picture going to be up there?
We go, no, no, no.
This is a select group only.
unidentified
So it'll be hanging from everybody real soon.
steve bannon
Now, we're working.
You did a ton of interviews down at the conference in Austin last week on Maha, the Children's Health Defense Conference.
Of those.
You did some sidebar interviews.
Do we have any idea when those interviews are going to be up?
dan fleuette
Because I know the, the posse, they should yeah, they should start to be uh uh, trickling out um, as early as monday we're gonna, we'll make a big splash with them and and it was okay and I did like probably nine hours a day of interviews and I thought I was pretty up on the vac stuff and you know, I I knew quite a bit about Covid and man.
It's, it's absolutely shocking.
And then to to see uh, some of these healthy people who have come through, that I got to, I got to meet and and and and talk with, to see them like, rolling up in wheelchairs and, you know, in canes, having been paralyzed, and all this stuff just from you know, doing what they thought was their duty or what they were coerced to do.
In many, many instances um, and that's take a shot uh, especially when they're young, you know, they're military uh, in their early 20s, even teenagers who, who are, who are just decimated by these things and the and the corruption and deceit that's going on in these uh, big organizations is something that really needs to be tackled.
And and I couldn't be happier that Bobby Kennedy's in there.
Um, fighting that good fight.
steve bannon
No, we're gonna have uh.
We'll make a big launch on this on monday.
If you guys are ready, we're ready to launch.
It's extraordinary and the information, the content, so extraordinary dan.
Social media, where do people go?
dan fleuette
I'm at uh, do it fluid across all the media.
All social media is Insta x Truth.
It's uh d d o I t f?
L u e t.
steve bannon
Do it fluid, Dan.
We'll see you monday.
Thank you very much, sir.
Appreciate you.
dan fleuette
Thank you Steve.
Appreciate your time.
steve bannon
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Chris Horror, what do you got for us today, brother?
chris hoar
Well, Steve talking about Ai.
Unfortunately, Ai is now being used by uh the, all the usual suspects, the Chinese, the Uh North Koreans And the Iranians to enable more attacks on U.S. Infrastructure, data centers, and cyber Systems.
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The devastation out there caused by Hurricane Melissa took out 80% of the power grid.
And when the power grid goes down, everything else goes down.
So we're on the ground, not just selling phones and satellite internet units, but providing them for free for those families that need them.
And there's unfortunately many, many of those.
But look, as you said, these are dangerous times and more turbulent times ahead.
Our infrastructure, our power grid, our communications network.
steve bannon
By the way, the Chinese Communist Party, the PLA, just hacked Anthropic, one of the four frontier labs.
They had a cyber attack Thursday night, or excuse me, Thursday afternoon.
We were going to report it last night.
We didn't have time.
Anthropic, which is probably the best of the four frontier labs, had a cyber attack and a hack by the CCP, the PLA.
That's how dangerous it is.
So how do people, how do people, what's the workaround for that, sir?
chris hoar
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Go to sat123.com.
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And make sure that you're not vulnerable because these attacks are going to keep coming.
And unfortunately, AI is making them more devastating and more powerful.
So you need individual communications.
steve bannon
You need to have it, man.
You got to get these satellite phones.
Where do they go one more time?
Because you're always giving us great deals.
Where do they go one more time to hit it?
Because these are limited.
He only carves out a certain amount for the Warren Posse when he can make these deals.
So they go fast.
So where do folks go fast, sir?
chris hoar
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steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Chris Hoor, always appreciate you and cutting deals for the Warren Posse.
They love it.
Trevor Comstock, so I think either this afternoon or tomorrow, Claire Dooley is going to be on with a complete analysis of what went down at the Maha Summit the other day.
Plus, we're going to have a big launch next week of interviews from Claire and other people related to everything that's going on with the Maha Moment movement.
You're going to be absolutely stunned by all of it.
Trevor Comstock, we're all Make America Healthy Again.
What do you got for us, sir?
trevor comstock
Yeah, good to see you, Steve.
So real quick, you know, we've been getting a good amount of questions around our new tallow moisturizer in regards to the various benefits of it and how it differentiates from other skin creams on the market.
So I thought I would just highlight it with the time that I have.
You know, a little background on it.
The moisturizer is made with the two ingredients, which is the 100% American grass-fed and finished beef tallow.
And then we also pair with the raw manuka honey.
So that's it.
We don't include any synthetic ingredients or fillers or food dyes or anything like that.
And this product is intended for both men and women.
So it's perfect for things like dry skin, eczema, irritation, or just daily skin hydration.
And again, you can use it pretty much anywhere on your body, you know, your face, your hands, your neck.
Some people even put it on their feet.
One of the questions we get a lot is where you can use it.
But for those who don't know, Tallow is pretty amazing because it's almost identical to the natural oils that your skin produces.
So it absorbs much more deeply as opposed to just sitting on top of the skin, which unfortunately is the case with a lot of other skincare products on the market.
And then to take it a step further, it actually nourishes your skin.
So within the tallow, there's a ton of nutrients like vitamin A, D, E, as well as K, that your skin essentially needs to stay healthy and radiant.
And then as I had mentioned, we just pair it with the Ramanuka honey, which is amazing for anti-inflammatory properties as well as healing properties.
So it does a lot of things like reducing redness if you have any like seborrhea on your face or like I mentioned, eczema.
And it also just absorbs super deeply without clogging your pores, which is pretty amazing.
steve bannon
So do we have it in?
Do we have it in stock?
Your manufacturing process is kind of you do it, you craft it.
We got about 10 seconds.
Is it in stock?
Can people get it today if they go?
trevor comstock
Yeah, it's selling super fast.
Each jar is handmade, but it is in stock.
And if you do want to find it, you can just go to sacredhumanhealth.com and then always use code warroom for 10% off a checkout.
steve bannon
By the way, you get 10% off reach out to Trevor.
He answers, we talk about it all the time.
He answers all these things and he comes on the show to answer your questions.
So make contact with him.
That's why we do this.
Trevor Comstock, thank you, brother.
Have a great weekend.
trevor comstock
Appreciate it.
steve bannon
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Mike Lindell, you're pretty amazing too.
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We're going to toss a baton to that first, Mike Lindell.
Mike, it's a Friday.
It's kicking off a weekend.
You got a deal for us?
mike lindell
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