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Nov. 1, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4896: If You Dont Quit We Will Win; Debt Piles On Around AI Data Centers
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steve bannon
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ben harnwell
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dave walsh
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j michael luttig
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mike lindell
01:32
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salleigh grubbs
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tej gill
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jackie alemany
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Saturday, 1 November in the year of our Lord 2025, I'm, I guess it was serendipity.
We started with Phyllis Schlafly, who's a giant.
When I made that film, it was quite funny.
Fire from the Heartland.
Really proud of that movie because it caught things right at the right time, right before the 2010 midterm election, where we won, I think, 63 seats or something.
Of course, it was a lower denominator at the time.
The Big Tea Party sweep.
Phyllis Schlafly, she was great.
She wasn't having it.
I'm like the director doing all my madness.
Now, just cut the camera on, kid.
I got this.
I'm Phyllis Schlafly, and you're not.
She was fabulous.
But there's a common denominator.
Now, think about it for a second.
We said all this is happening for the government weapons.
Oh, no, these people are conspiracy theories.
They're a bunch of nuts.
Bannon's got this crazy show over there.
He's got a bunch of nutcases with tinfoil hats watching.
Then Arctic Frost comes out, and you've seen it in all its glory.
Everything we said and more.
You go back, the same thing with Crossfire Hurricane, all that coming out.
We got to get, you see, the pipe bomb situation with Julie Kelly.
She's on it now, having the baton pass from Darren Beatty.
We still haven't done enough.
There's so much on J6, so much on it.
But it doesn't get to the railhead of this.
And divine providence moves in mysterious ways, and it is not for us to question or to judge God, right?
They stole the 2020 election.
unidentified
Flat out, full stop.
steve bannon
And I am not a machine guy.
I have said from day one, I'm not a machine guy.
That's one of the reasons I think we didn't get sued for machines, but I am a stolen election through the mail-in ballots and through the phony ballots.
Don't get me wrong, the machines are so much more complicated than they need to be.
And the people that are pursuing the machine thing, I've always said, go for it.
We got to get these machines out of here.
Got to be paper ballot, game day vote, single day count.
Let's roll.
We'll see who wins.
And I know we're doing better in early vote.
I got all that.
You were playing by the game.
Fine.
unidentified
Good.
steve bannon
But I'm with President Trump.
Paper ballots, game day vote, let's roll.
See who wins.
That's democracy.
Show me what you got.
Oh, by the way, you're going to have ICE agents outside because no illegal aliens are voting because everything you guys do is about illegal aliens are these scam visa programs to get more foreigners in here that are voting against the United States of America.
Yes, I went there.
unidentified
You damn right I went there.
steve bannon
But the railhead, the festering sore in all of this is the 2020 election.
And President Trump's getting tapped along.
You talk about Warrior Sally Grubbs.
You got Caroline Jefferson.
People work five years like a dog with a bone.
They're not giving it up.
Why are they not giving it up?
To give it up is to give up your country.
We cannot let that stand.
You cannot let that stand.
If it stands, then all of it's phony.
Yes, I realize you got the auto pins on the pardons.
It's terrible.
But it's the executive orders, and they don't want to talk about the executive orders.
Why?
Think of the legal, the morass that is.
Well, I'm sorry, it's a morass.
What did I start calling it at 12 noon?
The only person, conserve me, you know, and all the people out there, all the people in conservative ink that slobbered all over them.
And Netanyahu, the first guy to bail on us on Saturday, the AP, I think, called it.
What, at 2 o'clock in the afternoon, you heard the horns around here?
It was like Marty Gra in Washington, D.C.
And Netanyahu's on the phone with him right dude two seconds later.
It's the railhead of so much of it, and it's right there, and you have to do it.
They could not certify.
Did you hear this enough time on the show?
They could not certify the 2020 election.
It was uncertifiable, full stop.
In Pennsylvania, in Michigan, in Georgia, in Arizona.
Thank you very much.
There's uncertifiable other places too, but let's take those four.
Then it gets kicked in and no.
And I love you, Cleta, but that was just wrong.
There's no more, once you vote, you vote.
Because the people in the earlier days, the craziness of the 18th century, excuse me, the 19th century, where they had a couple of three contested elections.
Hell, the elites in this country stole it from Andrew Jackson.
That's why Jackson's like Trump.
They said, oh my God, these crazy populists are coming.
No, we got to stop this.
They stole a couple of three back in the 19th century.
They knew that it was so out of control.
That's why they had the thing, and they couldn't change the Constitution.
So you finally got the Electoral Count Act of what, 1887.
And that says, it's quite clear that in the Constitution, it goes to the House of Representatives.
unidentified
Why?
steve bannon
The House of Representatives, kind of like the House of Commons, not the House of Lords.
Because at that time, particularly the states, the senators were selected by the state assemblies in states.
The direct election were by members of Congress, members of the House, I should say.
In the Electoral Count Act of 1887, you have a conting, what's called a contingent election.
And there's no do-overs.
I said this from the very moment.
You remember back in 2020, I'm yelling and screaming in this microphone.
And we're 100% correct.
Not 99, not 98, not 99.999, 100%.
You got these damn ballots down there.
These people have fought for five years, and they've had subpoenas before.
They've had all this hopping town.
They've had judges.
That crew down the same crew that was going to put Trump in prison in bald daylight.
This is my point.
They know they stole the freaking thing.
And what are they going to do for the people that said, no, no, no, no, no, we've got to get to the bottom of this?
They're going to put Trump in prison.
Then you got all the other electors.
And hey, the elector is a different issue.
I was not an electors guy.
You don't need it because it's not going to matter.
They're not going to vote for your electors.
It's not relevant.
They can't certify his.
Get focused.
They can't certify his, and they can't certify his.
It goes into the House of Representatives.
guess what?
You're president of the United States again.
Now, as we know, divine providence, the will of God works in mysterious ways.
And it's not for us to judge.
But you know what?
We needed that steel was important because we needed to go into the wilderness for four years.
We were not prepared at that time to make the fundamental changes in this country that we needed to make, given where that administration was ended up and all the globalists and everybody fighting Trump.
Look at Trump's fight from the time of the pandemic, and you saw it every day here on that show, in this show.
And look at the summer love.
From that time on, it was warfare.
In this second term right now, this glorious revolution that we're doing every day.
And I just got to watch, I just broke down last night and watched all the hours of the MSNBC Live just to watch it.
And Chris Hayes is the first guy to come out there.
And Chris Hayes is one of the smartest, he's the acolyte of Maddow.
He's one of their smartest guys.
He comes out and he says the first thing he tells them is that, hey, you got to understand, these guys believe it, and they're moving at the most rapid pace of any country in the world to achieve their objectives.
Full stop.
He should have seen the audience in shock because he's a guy that watched this closely.
We would have never been able to do that unless we had the years in the wilderness.
This is what makes this story so epic.
unidentified
It's epic.
steve bannon
Why did I sit here on the afternoon of the 20th of January 2021?
By the way, in the first minutes, the Chinese Communist Party, right, says full sanctions on Pottinger, Navarra, Pompeo, and Bannon.
Five minutes.
No response from the State Department.
Of course.
Who cares?
Biden and those guys are all in business with them.
And what did I call him?
An illegitimate regime.
Not an administration.
You know, an illegitimate regime.
An illegitimate regime.
Why was it illegitimate?
Because he stole, they stole the 2020 election.
Had I mentioned that?
Did I mention that?
You don't have to take your number two principle out and write this down.
Let this be emblazoned.
Let this be burned into your soul.
Because all the things going on, you got to keep focused on what do we have to do to make sure that we can take this apparatus down in like a Carthaginian piece.
You take it apart and then you bury it and then you put salt on it so nothing ever comes back from it again.
Rough Roman justice for this crowd.
And we're not moving fast enough and we're not moving tough enough.
And I'm sorry if I'm hurting some feelings here.
I don't give a damn about your feelings.
Here's what I care about.
The only thing I care about is victory on this.
And if you're not interested in victory, then get the hell out of the way.
And no more.
I don't want any more letters.
I don't want any more, you know, we got to do this.
Get a U.S. Marshal and get a warrant and go down and seize those ballots today, not tomorrow, today.
You don't think they would destroy the evidence?
For this very issue, they were putting Trump in prison for decades to have him die in prison.
And if they had the opportunity, if it wasn't a clown car down there, they would have done it.
You know what the Republican establishment down there did to assist people that were said the country, we're burning the Constitution and we must stop this.
We cannot allow this to happen.
No, the business community, because the business community, these guys are always, they're never going to stand in the breach.
This is my problem with the Brolegux.
They're never going to stay in the breach because their values are not your values.
Your values are back to the core essentials of this republic and the reason we've been around for 250 years as a republic.
Do good days and bad days.
Why?
We have a Constitution, but we also have something deeper than the Constitution.
Deeper than the Constitution.
Because yes, Mark Levin, at the end of the day, you don't worship the Constitution.
It's a contract.
A divinely inspired contract.
Kind of a merger of equals, of things that were not equal and worked out and became a beautiful foundational element to govern what went from a vast wilderness to a global power.
The greatest nation in the history of the earth.
Not the greatest nation now, the greatest nation in the history of the earth.
Freed more people, created more wealth, did more good for all of our faults.
And our faults sometimes have been pretty grievous.
Our greatness is we rose above those faults.
And you're telling me in a warehouse in Fulton County somewhere in Georgia sits the receipts and the evidence that they stole an election and that five years afterwards we're going to send a letter and play by their rules.
If the Trump revolution shows you anything, is to hell with their rules.
If Trump played by their rules, he would have finished 16th in a 16-man race in the primary back in 2015 and 2016.
unidentified
These people against us are evil.
steve bannon
And they control an apparatus that's virtually all-powerful.
And they ain't giving it up.
And they're particularly not going to give it up.
Do you think they're going to give it?
You think Johnson scares them?
You think John Dune scares them?
They're part of the system.
If you want to save your country, just like in the movie The Untouchables, they know where the whiskey is.
Do you have the courage to take the axe and beat down the door and go through it?
Because once you go through it, there's no coming back.
Yes, look at Arta Frost.
They're going to put you in prison.
They're going to bankrupt you.
They're going to deplatform you.
If you're not prepared to do that, then get out of the way.
You're not in this fight.
You're just an observer.
That's what connects Caroline Jeffards and Sally Grubbs to Phyllis Schlaflin.
unidentified
I got American Power.
steve bannon
Short verse.
unidentified
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jackie alemany
We Americans are by good nature, are by nature good people who believe in the inherent goodness of others, especially those we elect to represent us in the highest office in the land.
But we ignore such statements and other expressions of Trump's intent at our peril.
The 47th president is a vain man, and nothing would flatter his vanity more than seizing another term.
Doing so would signify the ultimate triumph over his political enemies.
Now, my presumption is that you wrote this article prior to Trump going on Air Force One and saying, telling reporters that he was not going to run for a third term, that he didn't think it was constitutionally viable and that voters wouldn't be happy with him.
Do you think we should take his word for that?
Or do you think he's going to ultimately listen to advisors like Steve Bannon who say that there are plans in the works to allow him to run again?
j michael luttig
Jackie, I wrote the Atlantic article several weeks ago, and it was actually scheduled to run, I think, on November 3rd.
And the Atlantic pushed that date up in response to the president's comment first that he would love to be president for a third term and Steve Bannon's comments that Donald Trump is gonna be the next president succeeding him.
So and then that's to say that the article ran at 7 a.m. the morning that the president, by the end of the day from Air Force One on his way to Korea, had seemed to back away, saying that from what he reads, the 22nd Amendment prohibits him from running again.
Now, the question, of course, is, will he, notwithstanding that, run again?
There's no reason, and he has given the American people no reason to believe that he will not run again and be the next president of the United States by whatever means are necessary.
steve bannon
Okay, Fred, that's Luddick, another guy hating Trump because they didn't put him on the Supreme Court.
Luddick, he implies Trump read his article.
Trump didn't read your article.
Come on, man.
Get real.
First things first, we have to indict all these guys, try them, put them in prison, take down the deep state, get in with a trenching tool and take it apart, and then hold the House in the midterms.
First things first.
But there are multiple ways for President Trump to do this.
And let me give you a quote from one of the top constitutional lawyers in this country, media that's watching this, that would like to not use his name currently, but will step forward eventually.
You could drive, and I quote, a MAC truck through the 22nd Amendment, end quote.
So suck on that.
Sally Grubbs, one of the warriors.
unidentified
So please give your advice of what we should do.
steve bannon
I appreciate Harmet and these guys taking at least some action, but tell me what you and Caroline Jefferson, these warriors have been fighting this.
And if it was not for these people, we would not have the receipts.
We have the receipts.
So what would you do, ma'am?
salleigh grubbs
You know, Steve, first of all, thank you for everything you just said before the break because you're 100% right.
I have tears in my eyes because it's been a long, hard five years to get to this point.
And the ballots have been sitting there all along.
You know, we've gone from the point of having them guarded, but you're right.
What's going to happen if they don't get their butts here to Georgia to pick the low-hanging fruit of these ballots and what's going on?
You know, the answer's here in Fulton County.
And we need the DOJ here on the ground.
We need people ready to inspect the ballots and ready to process that.
And I don't know what it's going to take.
I think we need a U.S. attorney to be able to proceed on this.
And so I'm not asking, I am begging for Harmet Dylan to take the next step.
Let's go to the next level.
What has been done in this country is such an injustice.
And these ballots will explain a lot.
And you know, Steve, they don't want to show them in the light of day.
They don't want to say we were right, that we were right and they were wrong.
They want to continue business as usual.
And we can't move forward as a country until we set things right.
So I am asking right now for Harmet Dylan to do whatever is necessary to get the ballots.
Let's forget waiting the 15 days.
Let's show up in Fulton County and let's do the right thing.
It is time.
America has been waiting.
We've put our lives on hold.
We need to see the ballots.
We need to prove the case.
Let us prove it.
And you know what, Steve?
If we can't prove it, then you know what?
There's no reason that they should have been fighting it all along.
If there's not a there, they wouldn't be trying so hard to prevent it from happening.
They don't want it happening because they know where the evidence lay.
steve bannon
They know their guilt, and the Republican establishment knows that they stood by and let this happen because guess what?
They hate Trump too.
Sally, what's your social media?
Where do people go?
And what are your coordinates here?
salleigh grubbs
I'm on X at First VC, Georgia GOP.
I'm the first vice chair of the Georgia GOP, and you got it there on the screen.
Anyone can reach out to me.
steve bannon
Thank you, Sally.
Appreciate you.
Thanks for taking Saturday.
salleigh grubbs
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
And thanks, Caroline.
Thank Caroline Jeffords and all the people that have worked, labored in the vineyard for five years.
That's what a hero does.
Five years.
It's like Trump.
They're not going to quit.
Okay, lesson.
If we don't quit, we win.
If we don't quit, we win.
That's what history shows us.
Why do you think the guy called us, you know, the big thinker called us anti-fragile and we have resilience?
Because you can take a punch, you can get back up, and you give a bigger punch.
That's a movement.
You know where that came from?
Oh, let me think.
In American history.
Oh, yeah, the revolution.
I remember that.
Ken Burns has got a big, what is it, 10-part, 12-part series coming out, like the Civil War.
The one thing you're going to see is that the Patriots were always outnumbered.
Hell, we had two-thirds of the country wasn't even there.
One-third was again us, the Tories.
And one-third is kind of roughly in the middle saying, just like in human nature, I'm going to see which way this goes.
What's happening here today?
You know from your friends.
That illegitimate regime, after they stole the election, understanding this, trying to have stole it in 2016, couldn't do it, try to shut Trump down every day in the first term, then saying we got to do whatever we got to get these guys out of here, stole the 2020 election in broad daylight.
What did they do?
They organized an effort to get 15 million illegal aliens into the country to totally change the balance of everything.
This is not that hard.
This is not quantum mechanics.
This is pretty straightforward.
And they were organized to do it just like they're organized now.
James Wood said last night, James Wood, who's one of the smartest guys out there, the actor from Hollywood, puts up about the other radical, what, Somalian running for the mayor of Minneapolis, like a working families party.
He said, this is a juggernaut they've built in these cities off of these illegal aliens and all these foreign nationals they let in with these scam the visa scams.
And now you're going to see not just in New York City, you're going to see it throughout the country, Minneapolis and Seattle, Washington.
He called it a juggernaut.
He called it a cancer that's metastasizing.
Where did the cancer come from?
It's been here a long time, even deeper than Obama.
But, you know, he was the first landing party that took over the White House.
They're all cheering and laughing and clapping.
And the greatest time, a disaster for a president, the greatest concentration of wealth in the history of the country happened on his watch.
Why?
Because the Wall Street bailout, and he wasn't, that's not his problem.
That was Bush and this crowd and the Democrats and Wall Street.
But on the collapse, do you think the most progressive president, progressive in quotes, would have a solution conceived by the wealthy, executed by the wealthy for the benefit of the wealthy?
Did you get bailed out in 2008 and 2009?
No, you did not.
In 10?
No, you did not.
Wall Street got bailed out.
The financial system got bailed out.
Why?
Because they run Obama.
As Matt Bowles said last night, the Democratic Party is owned by billionaires.
Why did Bernie and Pelosi and Biden and all these big talkers in the first hundred days of their administration, they're going to tax billionaires.
They're going to tax billionaires.
The hell, they didn't even have a voting committee.
Didn't go anywhere.
They didn't raise taxes on the wealthy at all.
So don't sit here today and tell me what you're going to do because it's a rigged game.
And they wanted 15 million or 20 million.
Pick your number.
The greatest invasion of any country in modern history in this country on their watch.
That's inextricably linked to the stealing of the 2020 election.
And one of the people that did it, what were they going to do?
They're going to put Trump in prison for decades to die in prison.
To die in prison.
In Georgia, in Fulton County, the scene of the crime.
And what have we done?
I don't know.
Let's send another letter.
It's not good enough.
The hour is late.
The hour is late.
Every moment we don't take it to these people in a way that they can never recover to take it apart, to adjudicate this and show all the evidence to not just the American people, to the world,
the Chinese Communist Party, the gangsters in the KGB in Moscow, the Mulas in Tehran, all of them, that we are self-governing, that the people here will stand up and finally they will demand and they will get justice.
We need the righteous indignation, just like the people that founded this country when they stood up and told the British Empire, put it where the sun don't shine.
Let's fight.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
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I got a little jacked up this morning on my on my Warpath coffee.
Give me your assessment so far of the show and then sell me some more Warpath coffee.
tej gill
Yeah, you're definitely on a roll this morning, Steve.
I think everybody's loving it.
We need to go to war with corruption.
We need to, you know, we had the global war on terrorism.
We need the global war on corruption.
We got to clean up America and we can't move forward unless we get accountability for the 2020 election.
Like you said, why are we sending these letters to Georgia?
We need to send in the FBI, the U.S. Marshals, seize the ballots, seize the documents, and the Department of Justice needs to prosecute.
We've been exposing a lot of stuff, but we need prosecutions.
We need accountability.
With no accountability, nothing's going to change.
These people don't care if they're exposed.
They're shameless people.
They need to go to jail.
They need prosecutions.
We need felonies.
We need indictments.
Without that, the country can't move forward and we can't evolve to the next place where we should be.
steve bannon
You've nailed it.
Dude, it's dead spot on.
And you know, this is somebody that puts so much out there for our country for so many years, decades, really.
Those are the people that, the people that have a, that have committed so much to this country, they're the ones most upset.
Caroline Jeffers and Sally Grubbs and others down there in Georgia for five years of this and getting the abuse they get.
You think it's been a garden party for them?
No, everywhere around the country.
Folks out in Arizona know this.
Folks in Michigan know this.
Folks in Pennsylvania know this.
They try to other you like you got a tinfoil hat on.
Well, hey, you know, all of a sudden, Cornyn and Cruz are all upset about what went on in the Justice Department.
They weren't upset until they found out they were wiretapped.
I'd like to see some of those cold logs.
tej gill
Tina Peterson.
We got to get her out of jail.
steve bannon
We got a gold star mother.
We're freeing hostages all over the world, and that's terrific.
We got a political prisoner they brag about.
The girl, the Secretary of State the other day, is bragging about her.
We got her in for nine years in a medium security prison.
Tina Peters, a gold star mother.
The elite of the elite in our republic as far as earning respect, a gold star mother that gave her son for defense of this republic, gave his life.
She's in a freaking woman's prison in Colorado because of this very issue.
tej gill
Exactly.
steve bannon
And then it drives me to serve looking at the machines.
Don't look at the machines.
Get Tina Peters out free.
Put the machines on hold for a second.
I got all the evidence I need down in Georgia and ain't no machine down there.
I got things called ballots.
Let's free Tina Peters.
Let's get the hell out of jail.
If you have to go with Polis and shut down the whole Colorado government, do it.
Hell, they ain't going to vote for us anyway.
Got that thing so rigged you can't get a fair election out of there.
Polis is playing footsies with Cox in Utah on his new social credit score.
Shut the whole freaking thing down and free her.
What about the coffee?
If I keep going here, I'm not going to get Walsh and Harnow on.
I got so much.
I got so much to talk about.
What do you got for me as coffee?
I can't drink anymore right now.
I'm too jacked up.
tej gill
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steve bannon
Brother, thank you so much.
You're a hero.
tej gill
Thank you, Steve.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
tej gill
Thank you.
steve bannon
I got to get Walsh and Harnwell on here because this is very important.
Some we've talked about for a long time.
Dave Walsh, the evidence is coming out now, and people, whether the opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal or Financial Times of London, great piece over at, and I'll put it up a little later over at Zero Hedge.
What do you got for us?
And the election, now I got Democrats.
All these, every TV ad of a Democrat in New Jersey is that we're going to have, we're going to, we're going to, um, we're going to solve the affordability issue by taking care of your electric bill.
I mean, they're so brazen.
It's the people that got you here are so brazen that now they're going to take care of it.
Dave Walsh, the floor is yours.
dave walsh
Well, Steve, I guess we consistent with your theme this morning, we initiated on this forum the conspiracy thought process about four years ago that renewables and the shortage of electrons were causing a massive shortage of electricity and going to lead to massive, massive price hikes.
And now suddenly within the last few months, everybody's on board with, oh, oh, yeah, that's for real.
Oh, yeah, that's for real.
Including Bill Gates, who had this terrific epiphany and turnaround this week, now acknowledging an industrial economy cannot be powered based on renewables.
And guess what?
If we really want to feed the hungry and we want to take care of the poor, well, he's saying we need more vaccines, but we do need to spend more money on other things than renewables because they don't work to power an economy.
Now, Bill, by the way, is a massive investor in AI and data center who activities who need massive quantities of baseload power.
But no, you have Zero Hedge saying the same thing.
And even the Wall Street Journal in an op-ed by Marion Loyola about three weeks ago pointed out once again that the U.S. economy cannot be fueled to be sustainable part-time.
steve bannon
Hang on.
But Financial Times of London, AI bond spree sparks flood fears.
I'm thinking about, and it's because debt tap to cover data hub cost.
Gates and these guys, their revelation is all tied to the fact they now know that the artificial intelligence are going to make 10 times bigger fortunes than they got, right?
Because Jensen Wong says, hey, the whole computer stack of the, he calls it $100 trillion of computer infrastructure has to be done over now because the AI and what they're doing with quantum computing is totally different than what came before.
It's their own, they're not having a revelation.
They understand that this is now climate change is going to get in the way.
Their sustainability stuff is all crap because they need to fire up and they don't care if they put a nuclear power plant in your backyard to do it.
If they don't get these data centers up and running and they're going to raise a quarter of a trillion dollars to do it right now in the debt markets, then the game is over, correct?
dave walsh
Oh, no, this is totally self-serving also.
It's correct, but it's self-serving on their part.
The 200 billion of debt that Meta Alphabet Oracle and these guys have raised will build about 80 gigawatts of 80 1,000 megawatt power plants.
That's what they need.
That's the major infrastructure that they need to power this AI thing.
It's not as much the computer equipment.
It's the power generation facility.
So now they're all over, hey, these have to run 24 hours a day.
They have to be gas-fired.
And they're running into the fact that in a lot of regulated states, the regulated utilities are very opposed to and have all kinds of regulations, making it very difficult for independent power production to occur.
So Chris Wright does appropriately a few days ago come out with a charge to the FERC to go ahead and get into looking at freeing up the ability of independent power producers to build generation plants in regulated states who block the transmission of electricity by competitors, who block competitors selling power over the border of their property, even one kilowatt without selling it back only to them.
All kinds of regulatory issues exist as impediments to allowing these firms to build their own power, which we need them to do.
They need to hedge.
And then they need to hedge if their business process doesn't bloom quite as they hope it will, that that power can be sold into the grid cost-effectively.
We desperately need it anyhow.
It's a good thing if these guys build their own generating capacity.
And we can't have state-regulated utilities standing in the way of that.
They need to be helping it.
So, anyhow, it is self-serving, but what's happening is a good thing.
It's beginning to crush the complete BS narrative.
steve bannon
It is, but hang on.
But we must be clear.
We must be clear in this.
When it was just consumers, when it was just people in this audience and all these phony commissions they've got in all these states that just work for the utilities and work for the politicians, utilities give when it was just you, you schmendricks out there, they didn't mind having solar batteries and having wind power and they're going to have compost and every whack job, the tides are going to come in and change everything.
They all want to go back to Gaia and Mother Nature and do all this.
When it's you and your electricity done work and your air conditioning done work and your heat done work and your grids down, that's your problem.
Okay.
We're going to get, you know, put mirrors up there and get the sun.
They don't care.
Every whack job in the world, as long as they're spending money and charging it back to you and it doesn't work and it doesn't work 24 hours a day, that's fine.
But when it comes to them, and it comes to the next money grab, which is artificial intelligence, oh, by the way, that's going to take over your jobs, right?
When it comes to that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Upon further review, upon further review, who thought up these whack job solar panels and wind?
That can't, what the hell is that?
No, no, no, no.
We need gas.
We need, oh, how about this?
Give me a nuclear power plant.
Remember, for nuclear, all for those years, it was, you were the great Satan even to mention it.
Oh, give me a nuclear power plant in the back next to the Little League Diamond in the neighborhood next to the data center.
Oh, because the water down there in the aquifers, we don't care if we suck West Texas dry.
We don't care if we suck every piece of water out of Arizona.
So be it.
The god of artificial, the demon summeth.
They're being summoned by the demons, and the demon says we need the power.
Dave Walsh.
dave walsh
Now, you have 43% rate increases down here in the Duke, Central Florida region, for example, since 2016, that on a documented basis have absolutely nothing to do with AI or DC.
That hasn't shown up yet.
All the rate cases, Florida Power and Line have the biggest one in the country ever before the Public Service Commission are all about the cost of them is about building out more solar and battery storage.
That is now a little bit more in media now being acknowledged.
That indeed has been what has driven up rates so far.
AI hasn't really started yet to have an impact on rates.
It's all about we tore down coal plants, we didn't build gas plants, and we raised roots through the roof because supply is way short.
steve bannon
Dave Walsh, hang on for one second, you're absolutely correct.
I get Ben Harnwell and Dave Walsh on the other side.
I want to make Mac Warner, we had Ed Martin to start off with, Mac Warner, Matt Meck, all the voter integrity people, all those conferences, those weekly calls, Steve Stern, all of you, you people are heroes.
Absolute heroes, unsung heroes.
Your praises are going to be sung here shortly because we're now finally going to get to the bottom of this.
The decertification.
I want the lawyers on Wall Street, Sullivan and Crama, all you big shot law firms, Cravath, all of it.
Over the weekend, give some associate.
You know, you're always giving work to the associate.
Give them the thing.
Go to AI and punch in.
Liabilities associated with completely calling the Biden regime a totally illegitimate regime.
Suck on that.
What do you think the liabilities are on that?
All the heroes that have fought this every day for five years are the great unsung heroes of this movement.
unidentified
We rejoice when there is no more.
steve bannon
Let's take down the CC.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Man.
steve bannon
Ben Hornwell, the CNN has reported that the Pentagon has approved Tomahawk missiles, long-range missiles.
Now, the president said he's not going to do it, but there are certain people in the administration.
Once again, gung-ho to get us into deeper into the situation in the bloodlens than we currently are.
Your assessment of this, sir.
ben harnwell
Yes, Steve.
The background is that for the last couple of weeks, we're seeing an increase in rhetoric with regards to nuclear possibility, and that's taking place on both sides.
In fact, when the Russians upped the ante and fired a nuclear-powered missile, rather than a nuclear missile itself, they test run a nuclear-powered missile.
This has kicked off a whole range of tit-for-tat.
And President Trump responded, saying, you know, we're not playing games here.
And yeah, but both sides are doing exactly that.
They are both playing games, but very serious games that can lead to the annihilation of all life on this planet.
That's the context here.
I'll tell you what the International Bureau, Steve, is paying attention to right now.
And that's this article, very important article that came out in the Financial Times yesterday, giving extra light on something that we were covering in real time here on the war room.
And that's the breakdown of the talks that were set, the summit that was set to be hosted by Viktor Orban in Hungary between Donald Trump and Victor and Vladimir Putin.
And the whole issue here is what's being called the root causes memo, which was what Russia sent through to the Americans after it was announced that this meeting was taking place.
And it's effectively their negotiating position.
And, you know, Steve, it's, I don't know how to say this.
It's basically exactly what the Russian position has always been for the last three and a half years.
Effectively, territorial concessions, the Donbass, a steep reduction of Ukraine's armed forces, which fits into the category really of demilitarization and guarantees that Ukraine will never join NATO.
Now, that's the situation.
And President Trump said that he was not very impressed with their position.
So, so far, so good.
The Gateway, no Gateway Zero Hedge, had the analysis on this that says that the talks broke down because Moscow, and I quote, because Moscow issued sweeping demands on Ukraine.
And here's the rub, Steve.
Here's my point.
I've got about like a minute to make this point.
Anybody who has been paying attention to this war for the last three and a half years will know exactly what the Russian situation is.
And I don't want to come on the war room and name names and indicate that people in President Trump's most trusted inner circle have badly advised him.
But that is effectively what I think the situation is.
And I have to name Marco Rubio here.
I can't do it otherwise.
It's a very dangerous situation that the President of the United States was allowed into this situation of calling for this summit, unaware of what the Russian negotiating position is or was going to be in negotiation.
That's really sort of a damaging situation.
And I think President Trump has reposed his trust in the wrong people.
I think he's been badly advised.
And the consequence of this is the escalation in nuclear rhetoric that I was just mentioning at the beginning.
And that's why you had things like Zero Hedge trying to put the spin on this, saying that the breakdown was because Moscow issued sweeping demands on Ukraine.
That's simply not the case at all.
The talks broke down because President Trump was badly advised by his closest circle around him.
And they are fundamentally neocons, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to get into this on Monday because Tulsi Gabbard gave a speech yesterday that rocked Washington, D.C. about regime change and how the United States policy is against regime change.
Gosh, where did I hear that before?
Maybe in the war room.
And there's other ways to do these.
Ben, you're going to stop all weekend.
I am too.
Where do they go, sir, for you?
ben harnwell
Simply my social media platform of choice, Steve, getter.
Just tap in my surname, Harnwell.
And there I am with my outrageous, provocative, incendi posts right at the top of my feed, waiting for your attention.
steve bannon
Thanks, Steve.
He came on for a couple of minutes and lit a bomb.
Thank you, sir.
Dave Walsh, where do people go to get you, sir?
dave walsh
Hey, True Social Getter and X, Dave Walsh Energy.
Steve will be on the road in DeLand, Pensacola, and Daytona in the next two weeks on the, to your point, largest rate increase in the history of the country here in Florida by a company building for the people, the residents, all solar, while in Iowa, announcing the restart of a nuclear plant for Google.
steve bannon
Can people see, yeah, can people go to these talks?
Do you have your schedule up on your getter?
Or should we put it up?
dave walsh
Yeah, I'll throw them up there also.
D-Land is the Florida Federated Republican Women's Association.
Pensacola is a heritage event.
Daytona is a Republican women's caucus.
steve bannon
I want people to go see Dave Walsh in the flesh.
Brother, thank you so much for taking time this weekend.
Appreciate you.
We'll get that out there.
Got to see Walsh in person.
Mike Lindell, we've been screaming and yelling about voter integrity and you guys fighting for five years.
You're the hero, one of the many heroes that have been at this for five years, relentless to make.
By the way, was the 2020 election stolen, Mike Lindell?
mike lindell
Put everything I had on it, Steve.
And once again, I was proven right.
unidentified
It's 100% it was stolen.
steve bannon
Sir, the floor is yours.
mike lindell
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Thank you, brother.
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