Oct. 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Trump's DOJ trying to convince the American people that he is not weaponizing the department, even as they target a growing list of the president's perceived political enemies. | ||
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That department needs to be weaponized and politicized. | |
| And this is what happens when you take out the fangs of weaponization. | ||
| Because there's no scenario in which you can look at what we're doing, restoring justice, doing the right thing in every single case, and say that that's weaponization. | ||
| In that same event, Trump named more people he'd like the department to investigate, all while claiming he is the true victim of DOJ weaponization. | ||
| I think it was the worst weaponization of a political opponent in the history of the world, let alone this country. | ||
| Don't tell me about us going after them. | ||
| If anything where we've been very, very soft, I wouldn't be that soft. | ||
| What they did was criminal, uh deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. | ||
| And I noticed uh his his interviewer was I think that was Weissman, and I hope they're gonna look into Weissman too. | ||
| Weissman's a bad guy. | ||
| Meanwhile, the Trump administration is paving the way to make it easier for the IRS to criminally investigate left-leaning groups, including major democratic donors. | ||
| That's according to new reporting from the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| The paper reports, quote, the undertaking aims to install allies of President Trump at the IRS criminal investigative division to exert firmer control over the unit and weaken the involvement of IRS lawyers, adding, quote, the proposed changes could open the door to politically motivated probes. | ||
| The effort is being driven by a top advisor to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant, who is also serving as acting IRS commissioner. | ||
| Well, I think you know, if you go back and read kind of any of the great theorists on fascism, authoritarianism, totalitarianism, what they'll say is that the authoritarian leader isn't so much concerned with creating an alternate set of facts as he is with obliterating the sense that reality can be grasped at all. | ||
| And so in this um atmosphere of intense cynicism and derangement and confusion, it's possible for them to then try to create their own reality, and people feel sort of um they feel sort of off balance in trying to reassert what they know to be true. | ||
| And I think that Donald Trump is really a master of that. | ||
| I mean, there's a phrase that people in the domestic violence world use when they're and I think that there's a lot of ways in which understanding how domestic abusers operate gives you some insight into how Donald Trump operates. | ||
| They say it's Darvo, um, deflect attack, reverse victim and offender. | ||
| So, you know, whenever kind of this administration accuses someone of something, in a sense, it's always a confession. | ||
| Their their modus operandi is if they commit a crime and are held accountable for it, that then shows that they have the right to prosecute someone for the identical crime. | ||
| "One of the most dangerous things that Donald Trump is doing is he is bypassing the usual Senate confirmation process to get people into high-level, high-ranking, powerful roles that will be blindly loyal to him. | ||
| That's what we saw with Lindsay Halligan, who became the new U.S. attorney, apparently for the sole purpose of prosecuting James Comey. | ||
| We're seeing that around the country. | ||
| People who go through the normal confirmation process and have qualifications that are within the realm of the norm for U.S. attorneys are being forced out of those positions and replaced by people who are essentially political puppets of Donald Trump. | ||
| The Senate has abdicated its duty to insist that the president go through the confirmation process. | ||
| They have essentially laid down and said Donald Trump can have whoever he wants in these roles. | ||
| And there are people like Ed Martin, who's another DOJ political operative behind the scenes, who is pulling a lot of strings on these investigations of Donald Trump's enemies, who really are very, very dangerous, and they have not gone through any type of vetting process whatsoever. | ||
| They are not qualified to hold these roles, and they are doing a tremendous amount of damage. | ||
| And we really need our our Congress to step in and demand some accountability from the president for these extreme people he's putting in these positions. | ||
| I've been making the argument that this is bigger than Louisiana. | ||
| this actually could open the aperture on the voting rights act. | ||
| Tell me more. | ||
| Well, back in 2013, the court killed off one of the two pillars of the voting rights act, section five in the Shelby County case. | ||
| And when they they did that, they said, don't worry, there's Section Two, it applies nationally and it protects minority voters. | ||
| In the oral argument that I listened to today, it sounded like the conservative justices who make up a majority on the court were prepared either to hold Section Two unconstitutional in certain applications or uh deprive it of its strength so that it would no longer require the creation of districts. | ||
| This would have effects beyond Louisiana's congressional district. | ||
| Not only would it apply to congressional districts around the country and perhaps lead to a round of re-redistricting in places where they could get rid of some of these minority opportunity districts. | ||
| It also applies to state legislatures and to city councils. | ||
| It could have effects up and down the country in just about every state where there is a sizable minority population, as Janae said, not to get proportional representation, but to just have a fair shot at being able to elect their candidates of choice. | ||
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Congress has absolutely abdicated its responsibility under the Constitution to act like an equal and co-acqual uh co-equal branch. | |
| They have outsourced their spine to the to the Trump White House. | ||
| Trumpists are calling the Congress the Duma as a as in a a r Russia's rubber stamp for Vladimir Putin. | ||
| That's an that's in the that that's an approving quote from some in the Trumpist camp. | ||
| So until we start seeing stands of independence and integrity, what they've done is they've just rubber stamped whatever Donald Trump says because they're afraid of the base, and they know he's got a lock on that. | ||
| But they have absolutely self-neutered their conscience and their common sense and outsourced it to Donald Trump. | ||
| Well, we're going through this round of re-registration now. | ||
| It's a race to the bottom. | ||
| It's already creating all kinds of problems for candidates who don't know if they're going to be able to run their campaigns. | ||
| This would add if the Supreme Court rules quickly and they change the voting rights act rules, it could create tumult around the country as states are going to be pressured, no doubt, by Donald Trump to try to redraw their maps yet again. | ||
| And it's just not good for anyone. | ||
| So I hope whatever the court does, if it's going to make any change, it would wait until after the 2026 election season. | ||
| It's a it's an astonishing, staggering and profoundly uh troubling sequence of events. | ||
| It's hard to get your arms around the size and scale of this problem. | ||
| Um and I say this not in a tongue-in-cheek way. | ||
| You know, when you have David Brooks, uh, who is for a long time been, you know, a sensible, what's seen as a kind of a sensible centrist, moderate kind of uh by far far from uh someone who is considered a a left-wing agitator, | ||
| uh saying that uh that America, we are at the point now where our serious national mass movement is necessary if we're gonna preserve uh what's left, what's still standing uh of America's democratic framework and traditions. | ||
| You know that you have crossed some Rubicon somewhere. | ||
| And I I don't disagree with David. | ||
| I think you know the the No Kings rallies uh this weekend, uh that we're we're we're gonna see millions of people uh are are gonna be out. | ||
| Uh we've seen this uh the protest movements have been growing. | ||
| Uh there I uh the uh at the same time we're seeing you know this militarization, increasing the militarization of of law enforcement and and troops in America's streets. | ||
| Uh there's no doubt that we are headed towards uh clashes of some kind. | ||
| Uh and not and not far off from now. | ||
| Uh, I think the Trump administration wants some of those clashes uh in the spirit you were discussing of of crackdowns. | ||
| Uh they want, they are setting a stage for uh by by characterizing these peaceful protests, what have been peaceful protests so far throughout Trump 2.0, uh that have not been in any way violent or in any meaningful way violent or don't want to dismiss any some straight act of violence at some protest somewhere, | ||
| but already we've seen millions of people who have marched, and we're not these are not uh the the marches of insurrectionists, these are marches of people doing uh pro protesting in the in the grand uh and storied tradition of American uh democratic dissent uh throughout our lives, but they are they're being portrayed in advance as being uh what you just quoted Mike Johnson and others saying, uh, and we've seen again this kind of the the flexing of of military muscle and force. | ||
| We are we are headed towards a conflict, uh a clash in the streets. | ||
| One side really wants it. | ||
| And the fact that it's our that is the administration uh which has uh the the not if not the monopoly has a very strong hold on lethal force uh and force itself uh is it is a profoundly disconcerting and worrying situation, but it may be necessary uh to have some kind of clash if we're gonna get to what David Brooks is talking about, what we need uh to hold on here. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Thursday, 16 October at Year Verlore 2025. | ||
| You see, as it's becoming evident every day that they're never going to come back politically and be able to take the House or the Senate or even with the Electoral College the way it's shifting the presidency, they're getting more and more and more radical and more and more and more dangerous. | ||
| We're gonna get into all that. | ||
| Let's go to the heart. | ||
| This is all a reaction to actions being driven by the Trump administration. | ||
| The most central is we keep talking and taking down the deep state and taking down uh all the people that um want to destroy this country. | ||
| The central part of this is to stop the invasion and then repel the invasion. | ||
| President Trump has stopped the invasion, at least on the illegal side, by sealing the border. | ||
| We're in the process, hopefully, of stopping invasion by killing off all these ridiculous and obscene um visa programs like HB1 visas, but in repelling the invasion, you got to go down to the deck plates. | ||
| And the deck plates are in Chicago, Illinois. | ||
| Our own Ben Burkwamp is there. | ||
| Ben, something you and I have talked about now for months. | ||
| There has been a sea change in the last, I think 48 or 72 hours, let's say, with DHS on something you've been, you and I have been talking about a lot. | ||
| Explain what's happening and explain why that's gonna trigger even a bigger uh reaction from the violent uh political left, sir. | ||
| And first off, MSNBC is insurrection media. | ||
| There are many of these outlets that are actually driving the insurrection across our country. | ||
| The left is they are insurrectionists. | ||
| In fact, the mayor of Aurora, Illinois yesterday basically called for insurrection in an email they sent out. | ||
| But what's ironic about this, Steve, is the very sanctuary jurisdictions that invited the invasion in the first place that were part of Joe Biden's invasion. | ||
| Now they are actually driving, helping drive the policy that I witnessed yesterday firsthand, the shift that we're having. | ||
| It's all targeted operations. | ||
| They're they're still doing the criminal warrants, they're still doing the uh administrative warrants, but what I saw yesterday was a shift to where they're doing the vehicle uh targeted stops. | ||
| We had 10 arrests yesterday. | ||
| We're gonna be breaking some news later today on a couple of those arrests, uh, some major news coming out. | ||
| But basically, you have ICE that has unshackled itself. | ||
| President Trump, Tom Homan, Christy Noam, they have unshackled ICE border patrol to go out there, in particular because of the insurrection that is coming from the left trying to stop them. | ||
| And everyone needs to remember this. | ||
| This was invited by the Democrat sanctuary cities, the invasion, knowing that it was gonna be this difficult to undo. | ||
| And President Trump and and the administration now are all just wait till you see the footage that's coming out. | ||
| I mean, all day yesterday, it was non-stop. | ||
| Instead of waiting for somebody to open a door, they're out picking these guys off one by one. | ||
| Hang hang over one second. | ||
| I know you gotta bounce. | ||
| You gotta go for another raid. | ||
| But I need you to just stick around for a second. | ||
| I want to drill down a little bit on the dangerous media, enemies of the people are in uh in in full throttle right now about trying to thwart uh federal officers from actually doing their jobs. | ||
| And we're gonna talk about the shift. | ||
| It's not simply the criminal element anymore, it's the beginning, the early stages of wait for it, mass deportations. | ||
| If you think it's been ugly so far, folks, you ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| They are going to come after these uh heroic uh officers and agents of uh Tom Holmans and Stephen Miller and Christy Gnome, the ICE agents who are at the tip of the tip of the spear. | ||
| You're seeing a change now, targeted operations, the beginning, the curtain razor for mass deportations. | ||
| We're gonna take a short commercial break. | ||
| Gold on fire. | ||
| We're gonna talk about the Chinese communist party, we're gonna talk about uh economic warfare. | ||
| Uh there are decades in which nothing happens and there are weeks in which decades happen. | ||
| We told you the other day that this was one such week, and man, is it delivering. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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| America's ear. | ||
| What did you hear from the president yesterday? | ||
| What I heard is something called rule by law instead of rule of law. | ||
| Uh, in countries that aren't democracies, the law is whatever the person in power says it is. | ||
| So there's a famous phrase by one of Stalin's uh prosecutors, you know, find me the man and I'll give you the statute. | ||
| In other words, find me the person and I'll tell you how to arrest them and what to accuse them of. | ||
| Um using the state, using the IRS, using other kind of uh regulatory organs to investigate your enemies, all of that is is not rule of law. | ||
| So rule of law, which is what the United States was founded on and what we've had for 250 years, uh, is a uh you know, means that the law is separate from politics. | ||
| So the law is the constitution, the law is what the courts have said. | ||
| The law is not what people in power at the moment say it is. | ||
| The beacon of democracy goes dark in it and writes. | ||
| We have a president who attacks judges and journalists, who bully CEOs into handing over stock in their companies, and university presidents into paying meritless fines, who sends military forces into American cities, who is building a new form of interior police, and who encourages the deepening divide between red and blue America. | ||
| All of these changes are part of a larger shift, a revolutionary transformation in the way Americans present themselves to the world and the way they are therefore perceived by others. | ||
| The most ubiquitous form of American culture nowadays is not jazz programming going out on shortwave radio across Eurasia, but the social media platforms that pump conspiracy theories, extremism, advertising, pornography, and spam into every corner of the globe. | ||
| So it's not just the message and it's the way it's being distributed today, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, I think you know, people used to associate the United States with big ideas, with freedom, with democracy, with rights, uh, with the rule of law, as we were, as we were just saying. | ||
| Uh and increasingly what we're seen as is the nation that produces manipulation. | ||
| Um, you know, the the algorithms that manipulate you and and tell you what to see. | ||
| Uh that we stand for uh um, you know, leaders who break the law rather than follow the law. | ||
| Um, that we aren't any longer seen as the leader of a broad democratic alliance, um, you know, with with all the many flaws that we've always had and and all the hypocrisy that was sometimes inherent in our positions. | ||
| We that was our formal role. | ||
| That's how we were seen and interpreted by other people. | ||
| Uh and that is that's changed pretty dramatically, and it will have all kinds of effects over time, not just in security, but in economics and so on. | ||
| Okay, that's Ann Applebaum writing, I think it was in the Atlantic and the MSNBC, so it's nonstop barrage. | ||
| You can tell uh Ben, they know they're not gonna be winning seats in the House. | ||
| They know they're not gonna be able to take over the House, they know the Electoral College is shifting because of the demographics and the shift in the country and the fact that we're not gonna count illegal aliens. | ||
| So they've made a point that now this Trump is a fascist, Trump is a dictator. | ||
| And the brown shirts that he has are the ICE agents. | ||
| This is why I keep they got to keep their faces covered. | ||
| They're trying to dox them. | ||
| And in what you've reported, this sea change in the last 24, 48 hours of now preparing for the mass deportations, Ben, it's only going to get more dangerous. | ||
| But I want you to comment your earlier comment on MSNBC really being the platform of anti-American, pro-illegal alien, uh hostile takeover of this country, sir. | ||
| Yeah, so they talk about deflection. | ||
| It's projection. | ||
| They are professional projectionists. | ||
| And the irony is that they think we're stupid enough to not see through it. | ||
| Everything they're saying is what they're doing. | ||
| They are the ones that weaponize government against President Trump and everybody who stood for the rule of law and standing for this nation over the last eight years. | ||
| And now they're they're saying President Trump is doing that. | ||
| But I think the American people have seen through that. | ||
| They used to be able to lie and get away with it. | ||
| The only people that listen to them now are the crazy blue-haired freaks that are out here every single day attacking ice. | ||
| But what they're doing is very dangerous. | ||
| They are dog whistling their side to be violent. | ||
| That is what they want. | ||
| That is the only solution they have now to stop what's coming. | ||
| And that is the restoration of our constitution, the restoration of this nation that President Trump, that Cash Patel, that Don Bun Dan Bangino and Pam Bondi are bringing to them. | ||
| They know their days are numbered. | ||
| Ben, uh social media so people can follow you during the day. | ||
| You're gonna have uh you're gonna have footage and reporting. | ||
| We'll get you up on the five o'clock show if you're freeing back. | ||
| Uh, want to make sure you get on the road. | ||
| But where do people go to follow you? | ||
| Yeah, just real quick before I go to Governor Pritzker and Mayor Johnson. | ||
| The reason, just so you know, the reason that ICE agents and border patrol agents are in the communities now, is precisely because of your sanctuary policy. | ||
| So you want to blame anybody for the mass deportation that's coming? | ||
| Blame yourself. | ||
| At Ben Burkwam at real AM voice on all social media, uh Real America's Voice News. | ||
| We're gonna be breaking some stuff that only Real America's voice has, exclusives from yesterday, later today. | ||
| So stay tuned for that. | ||
| My substack is Frontline America and my website's FrontlineAmerica.com. | ||
| Ben, uh, be safe today. | ||
| Go with God and be safe. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Ben Burkwam on the uh streets uh outside Chicago be very dangerous today as uh the roll-up continues and actually starts to exacerbate. | ||
| Want to go to Rome now and Ben Harnwell, the other part of this uh global conflict, the two most dangerous, and this is for the Israel first crowd. | ||
| Um it's over. | ||
| The Middle East is a sideshow, and the Israel situation is a side show to a sideshow. | ||
| So let's try to work with President Trump and implement uh the plan that he's come up with and not try to counter it. | ||
| It's time now to actually get focused on um on execution of that and implementation of that. | ||
| Let's go now to Harnwell and Rome. | ||
| And here's the part is that we have a kinetic situation that's metastasizing on the Eurasian land mass around Ukraine. | ||
| And we have an economic war, folks, uh that is um ratcheting up even as we speak and couldn't be more dangerous. | ||
| Zero hedge has an amazing piece out this morning about how this rare earths and what China's doing on the restrictions of other uh of other supply chain uh products coming into the world economy is uh Germany is about to get whacked big league, and this goes to the problem of Germany kind of kowtowing to the CCP years ago on their economy. | ||
| Ben, you've got a piece up from the sun. | ||
| Uh Zelensky's coming tomorrow, folks. | ||
| This couldn't be more serious. | ||
| He is asking for offensive weapons, the Tomahawks that took down uh that took down parts of the nuclear the alleged nuclear program of the Persians, the above ground of which the IDF Air Force, the Israeli Air Force could not get to. | ||
| We took it down with Tomahawk missiles launched from Navy submarines in the North Arabian Sea. | ||
| Uh and and Zelensky wasn't lost in Zelensky of the firepower of the tomahawk. | ||
| Uh Ben, uh the Russians are saying they're already ahead of this and saying, hey, if you go there, there's gonna be quite you're going into dangerous territory in America. | ||
| You're now gonna be a combatant, and they're gonna counter that. | ||
| Uh, what do you got for us, Ben? | ||
| Steve, you you've tied all of these things magnificently together. | ||
| Yeah, so President Zelensky is gonna be at the White House tomorrow, Friday, uh asking President Trump to give him these tomahawk missiles. | ||
| But the backdrop, the things that are going on behind the scenes, however, are even more alarming, Steve, than that request in and of itself, which I know is gonna strike MAGA very badly. | ||
| MAGA had been hoping as a movement, we'd all been hoping really for this war to be ended as President Trump had promised an election campaign uh within the first 24 hours after his inauguration. | ||
| Actually, he also said in the campaign he was gonna he was so confident he was gonna get this wrapped up before he said he's gonna resolve the situation before he was inaugurated, but we're now sort of so 10 months on from that. | ||
| And not only is it not having it happening, the the conclusion, it's being escalated. | ||
| This is this is the strategy. | ||
| I don't know how successful this has ever been, Steve, in history, but the strategy is escalate to de-escalate. | ||
| And I don't have any hope in that. | ||
| So look, you mentioned Germany, so the things that are going on here. | ||
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You have the the meeting in the White House tomorrow. | |
| You also have in Germany, now all of the European leaders are being especially gangster right now, saying, Oh, we're gonna commit to the five percent of NATO spending on defense, as President Trump has asked. | ||
| Here in Italy, uh Prime Minister George Maloney has just indicated how flexibly the European leaders are actually taking this, the the performance of theater behind it all, and she's spending billions of dollars to build a bridge between mainland Italy and Sicily, and she's gonna mark that off against this five percent. | ||
| That is how bad this is. | ||
| In Germany, however, which you just mentioned in your question, Steve, the defense minister Pistorius, it has brought the coalition that they have there, which is very tenuously held together in uh um uh in and of itself. | ||
| He's brought this coalition to the brink because at the last moment he's pulled out of an agreement which had been uh confected between the Christian Democrats, the ruling Christian Democrats, but also the Social Democrats, which was to introduce the um the lottery system they're calling it in Germany. | ||
| But it's basically just the draft is they're gonna try and meet their their 2,000 extra, 200,000 extra troop commitments by introducing those that don't voluntarily present themselves and sign up uh under the augmented uh wage conditions. | ||
| So they're gonna draft by a lottery, and at the last moment, Pistorius uh blinked and said, We're not gonna do this, Boris Pistolis. | ||
| We're not gonna do this. | ||
| Uh we need to find another way. | ||
| Steve, the reason is is because he knows this is political suicide in Germany, because the people most at risk of coming out to fight, the youth are the most against it. | ||
| That's the backdrop to what's going on here in Europe. | ||
| Europe is you know that they're they're they're feeling the pressure put down by President Trump, and they want to fall into line with his reasonable requests, but they're meeting against the the reality of the demographics. | ||
| The background is in the huge push, and we'll talk about this some more, Steve. | ||
| But the huge push behind um the the President Trump to accommodate President uh Zelensky is going to fall on the shoulders of America. | ||
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| Hang on one second, hang on one second. | ||
| I want to go through escalate to de-escalate. | ||
| Gold, ladies and gentlemen, as a 4,278 bucks. | ||
| It'll blow through 4300 sometime over the next couple of days, I believe. | ||
| A rush to a safe haven, geopolitical risk, economic warfare risk. | ||
| All broken down. | ||
| and explain to you in the war room next. | ||
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Here's your host, Stan. | |
| Stephen Gab. | ||
| Okay, uh Birch Gold, end of the dollar empire four years ago. | ||
| We told you it was gonna come down to a de-dollarization and trying to destroy the United States by destroying the financial system of the United States and it's um it's revved up. | ||
| Now the Chinese Communist Party, uh, as we have warned, has gone uh big league in outright economic warfare. | ||
| This is not unrestricted warfare, they're going to the next phase. | ||
| Like like Ben Berkram's reporting, we're going to the next phase and beginning Mass deportations, they're ramping it up to go full out in your face, economic warfare. | ||
| And we've warned about this forever. | ||
| This is why we've been the leaders, not just in the anti-CCP movement, but telling you we have to decouple. | ||
| If you kick the can down the road, there's only so far when it comes, push comes to shove, they're going to come after us and they're coming after us. | ||
| And this is why this Ukraine situation that you have a kinetic part of the war on the uh western part of the Eurasian landmass, the landmass taken as a whole, right? | ||
| In Ukraine, in the bloodlands. | ||
| You had a brutal, violent over two and a half million casualties, as President Trump reports, about a million eight from the Ukrainians, over a million, maybe a million and a half from the Russians. | ||
| On the opposite side, with the Chinese Communist Party, the South China Sea, the uh Taiwan, right? | ||
| Now you have the CCP going, understanding they have a chokehold on us when it comes to heavy rare earth. | ||
| This is the whole reason we're playing footsee with Lula now, because the only other part of the world that has it is Brazil. | ||
| Uh this couldn't get more serious. | ||
| You're seeing it zero hedge. | ||
| I'll get this up later. | ||
| You can grind production lines to a halt. | ||
| And and and um, and the Secretary of uh Interior Burgham and you know, building the 200-mile road, gravel road into Alaska. | ||
| This is all great. | ||
| It needs to be done immediately. | ||
| It should have been done years ago, but it's no time now to be pointing fingers of blame. | ||
| You got to get on with it. | ||
| And uh, but we're at full-scale economic war. | ||
| Why is gold exploding? | ||
| We told you what was going to happen. | ||
| It has always been a hedge against geopolitical risk. | ||
| Now banks are saying, hey, guess what? | ||
| Maybe this euro is not really an asset. | ||
| Maybe U.S. government debt is not an asset I should have as an asset class. | ||
| Maybe I should load up more on gold. | ||
| Gold's at 4279. | ||
| Remember, we never tell you to go out and buy gold because of the price. | ||
| You need to learn the process of what drives value and gold. | ||
| Birchgold.com. | ||
| Promocode Bannon, the end of the dollar empire. | ||
| Over four years, seven free installments, eight and nine are coming. | ||
| We're working on it, but go get it today and talk to Philip Patrick and the team. | ||
| Do not miss that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The two sides of this war, Ben Harnwell, is uh Zelensky's coming tomorrow. | ||
| Seeing the striking power of the Tomahawk, which is a 1970s technology that was out in the fleet when I was a uh uh young officer back in the late 70s. | ||
| A 1970s technology had been updated, the striking power against the Persians above ground nuclear facilities, wiped them out with 30 tomahawks delivered from Navy submarines was not lost on Zelensky. | ||
| And the striking power, I don't know, goes 1,500 miles. | ||
| It puts Moscow and maybe even St. Petersburg in uh in target range of Zelensky. | ||
| The Russians have come out and they said the Sun, a newspaper in England reporting what, two million, they're prepared to call up two million troops if this happens. | ||
| At the same time, their partners, the Chinese Communist Party, are saying, hey, double down, triple down because we're about to grind America's production capability. | ||
| When I say not some theoretical capacity, I mean production lines of our heaviest manufacturers grinding to a halt. | ||
| Uh Ben Harnwell, your thoughts and assessment, sir. | ||
| The limit, the range of the tomahawk missiles, is around, as you say, one and a half thousand miles, and it has huge destructive capacity. | ||
| But that's not why Zelensky wants them. | ||
| Zelensky wants them because he wants you guys in the war. | ||
| He has no chance of winning this war without America involved kinetically in this war against Russia. | ||
| That's why he wants these tomahawks. | ||
| He wants you to supply them to him via NATO or whatever, but he wants America to supply him the missiles and give him the intelligence in order to direct them and to hit targets. | ||
| And Moscow is well within that one and a half thousand mile range. | ||
| That is from his perspective, Steve, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| What doesn't make sense is why President Trump hasn't stamped this out when it was first floated. | ||
| It is not in America's interest to be dragged into this war. | ||
| That is what Zelensky is trying to do. | ||
| Well, hang on. | ||
| That's why he wants to tomahawks. | ||
| Hang on, hang, hang on. | ||
| I know, by the way, they want us as a combatant. | ||
| And President Trump, let's be blunt. | ||
| In the Persian, in the 12-day war, we were a combatant. | ||
| We started off immediately. | ||
| The Israelis dragged us in immediately as defensive. | ||
| We had Aegis class cruisers and they'd sent to the Eastern Mediterranean. | ||
| We gave them 25% of our Thads. | ||
| We sent Patriot missiles. | ||
| They could not defend themselves. | ||
| The reason this war came to an end in 12 days, President Trump knew that Tel Aviv was getting crushed because they couldn't stop the onslaught coming from the Persians. | ||
| Forget the offensive capability, which they did not have. | ||
| They depended upon the United States to deliver. | ||
| But President Trump sees something. | ||
| Talk, give me a minute or two on escalation to de-escalate. | ||
| I think his bet here is that everything he's tried to do with Russia with Putin, he would be the first to make it hasn't worked so far, right? | ||
| So he's going to threaten escalation to finally get Putin's attention. | ||
| Do you buy that, or you think we're headed down the road to perdition that then we're going to get into be uh be an active combatant, sir? | ||
| Steve, Russia is not the vassal state of America that Israel is. | ||
| Um Israel can be at the end of the day, Israel can be ordered what to do by America. | ||
| And Trump did it magnificently, right? | ||
| He did Trump did it magnificently. | ||
| Russia is not the same vassal state. | ||
| For Russia, this is an existential issue. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Why is this escalate to de escalate not gonna work? | ||
| You can look at it now. | ||
| The day before the White House summit between Zelensky and Trump, what has been the Russian position today? | ||
| They are now floating that they will call up to two million reservists to come and fight um uh in Ukraine. | ||
| Two million reservists reserves that build, Steve, what I was saying just before the break about the fact that you're so called allies here in Europe aren't with you. | ||
| They are performative and they are theatrics. | ||
| If America goes into this war, Steve, America goes in effectively alone. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| And and uh and uh escalator, I can only give credit to the Russians on this. | ||
| That the day before this meeting is taking place, Russia is not threatening and threatening a nuclear response. | ||
| Russia's response to this moment, as of today, as of this moment, is maintaining itself within the sphere of conventional warfare. | ||
| You supply Zelensky the Tomahawks, you supply Zelensky with the tomahawks, and we will uh we will conscript two million people to come and fight. | ||
| Credit to the Russians they don't because if they weren't showing this mature state, they don't care how many this will all end in mushroom clouds. | ||
| They don't they don't care, they don't care how many people either side put into the meat grinder. | ||
| This is one of the reasons that they're having call-ups and all the stuff in Europe. | ||
| They ain't sending any troops. | ||
| This is a kill zone, it's not called the bloodlands for nothing, okay. | ||
| 1.8 million, and I'm quoting the president of the United States, 1.8 million Ukrainians dead or wounded. | ||
| A million to 1.5 million Russians. | ||
| That's three. | ||
| You're talking roughly three million people since the start of this war, and we warned everybody this was gonna happen. | ||
| So I don't want to hear all the happy talk in MSNBC and CNN for Admiral Stavridus and General Clark and all these clowns that got us in this situation. | ||
| In Russia, let me be blunt. | ||
| They're calling our bluff. | ||
| They're saying, okay, you give them tomahawks, we're gonna increase this thing, and next stop is Kiev, and we'll see you there defending Kiev. | ||
| The kinetic part of this war, we're getting sucked into it. | ||
| President Trump magnificently shut down the Israelis when they tried in the Israel First Crowd when they try to get us involved in the decapitation and regime change in Persia. | ||
| He ended that with the with the total obliteration strike from our B-2s and the United States Navy with the Tomahawks. | ||
| We avoided that, right? | ||
| And I think quite frankly, ended up with a not a great deal for Israel. | ||
| I think the two-state solution, particularly with Qatar financing it and the Turks providing security. | ||
| I d I just don't see this working in Israel's best interest over time. | ||
| Um but I tell you, they're gonna they're calling our bluff right now. | ||
| This meeting with Zelensky couldn't be more important tomorrow. | ||
| And I know President Trump, the master negotiator. | ||
| If ever we needed Trump at peak Trump, we need him tomorrow at peak Trump because we are getting sucked in. | ||
| And the Chinese See this. | ||
| This is why they've dropped the hammer. | ||
| They walked away from the commitments they made in June and July on rare earths, rare earths that the uh that that Secretary Bessant and our trade representative Peter Navarra, all that team made, they've walked away from it. | ||
| Why? | ||
| They understand now it's a time to sh call the United States bluff. | ||
| You guys are such tough guys, let's see it. | ||
| Let's see if you got the capacity. | ||
| Let's see if you can actually keep a production line going without the rare earths that, oh, by the way, we bought the processing company out of Ohio back in 2015. | ||
| And Obama and these guys said nothing about it. | ||
| They understand leverage and they understand leverage points. | ||
| And right now, this is like the summer of 1939. | ||
| This is where we are. | ||
| It couldn't be more dangerous. | ||
| And one bad move, the whole thing could come tumbling down. | ||
| Why do you think gold's on a roll right now? | ||
| Uh Ben uh Harnwell, where do people go to your social media to get all of your information? | ||
| Thanks, yeah. | ||
| I'll be updating this as the uh over the next 24 hours, obviously. | ||
| Steve is my social media platform of choice. | ||
| Just tap in my surname, Hanwell, and there I am. | ||
| I'll just give me 30 seconds to respond to what you just said about BB and the and um coming out with a bad deal at the end of this. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| I he did come out with a deal which wasn't great. | ||
| But I happen to think, and perhaps we can talk about this uh at another point. | ||
| I happen to think actually, if anybody else had been prime minister of Israel over the past 30 days, they would have come out with a better deal than what BB did. | ||
| Effectively, BB deceived President Trump over the situation with regards to Iran, backed up by the Israel first stooges in the United States, and President Trump wanted to free himself of that. | ||
| And I I think he as you say as I say, he acted uh magnificently. | ||
| But I think anyone else, had anyone else been prime minister of Israel, um, they might have actually been able to persuade President Trump to give them a better deal. | ||
| Um, but BB got what he deserved. | ||
| Get her, Steve. | ||
| Honor. | ||
| Unfortunately, what he deserved is now gonna have massive implications for Israel and for the United States for years to come. | ||
| I'm just telling you, we gotta we got a proto-Palestinian state in uh i i i in with a foothold in Israel, financed by cutter on one hand, and people know where I stand on cutter, they're the railhead of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| In fact, the convening authorities, and I understand President Trump was looking for a deal, but the the pressure about the hostages, and look, the Hashis is a terrible situation, it's a terrible situation. | ||
| But what would the leaders of Israel done in 67 and 73? | ||
| It just the Hashes are casually a war, and we can't be held up by the we can't be held up by these terrorists are gonna put the gun to our head on that. | ||
| You gotta be tough, you gotta be hard. | ||
| Like I said, from the day that we covered it live October 7th. | ||
| If you've got to go through hell, you have to go through as quickly as possible. | ||
| That's not what happened, and can we are where we are? | ||
| But I'm telling you, the situation in Ukraine, the situation of the Chinese Communist Party uh is uh couldn't be more dangerous. | ||
| And the gold glow the international gold market is telling you that. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, thank you so much uh for joining us. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Uh we're gonna take a short break. | ||
| Gabe Kaminsky's going to join us. | ||
| He's got a scoop, a massive scoop about uh the Secretary of Treasury in the Treasury Department. | ||
| At the same time, Brian Schwartz and the team at the Wall Street Journal dropped a bomb about the IRS. | ||
| President Trump and his administration is getting very real and very focused. | ||
| When we talk about taking down the deep state, things are happening and things are moving. | ||
| And this couldn't come at a more critical time on what I think is everything we got going on, is one of the most, if not the most important thing we have to do. | ||
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| Talks about the 401ks and RAs, all that. | ||
| Get it, read it, talk to Philip Patrick and the team at Birch. | ||
| Trump administration is paving the way to make it easier For the IRS to criminally investigate left-leaning groups, including major democratic donors. | ||
| That's according to new reporting from the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| The paper reports, quote, the undertaking aims to install allies of President Trump at the IRS criminal investigative division to exert firmer control over the unit and weaken the involvement of IRS lawyers. | ||
| Adding, quote, the proposed changes could open the door to politically motivated probes. | ||
| The effort is being driven by a top advisor to Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, who is also serving as acting IRS commissioner. | ||
| Okay, Gabe Kaminsky from the free press is going to join us. | ||
| He had a scoop. | ||
| Now, here's how you got to think about this. | ||
| Gabe's story is the predicate for the IRS story. | ||
| Gabe comes Gabe, your scoop is about the Treasury Department in this line of work. | ||
| Walk us through what you found out about Treasure Treasury and why it's kind of a predicate and/or a bridge to what's going to happen at the IRS, sir. | ||
| Yeah, Steve, thanks for having me again. | ||
| Um, what we reported at the free press yesterday is that the Treasury Department's Financial and Crimes Enforcement Network, also known as FinCEN, which is an office within the U.S. Treasury Department that investigates money laundering and terrorist financing domestically and overseas. | ||
| We reported that that office is encouraging financial financial institutions, i.e. | ||
| banks, to report any information to the U.S. government on what they call suspected domestic terrorist activity. | ||
| And so the Treasury Department, this is part of a broader move within the entire Trump administration. | ||
| And as you said, that Wall Street Journal story on the IRS for the Trump administration to, in its mind, go after left-leaning or Antifa, what it what it calls Antifa funding networks after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| See, this is part of the whole thing. | ||
| This is why getting the designation as a domestic terrorist organization and now hopefully international terrorist organization is so important. | ||
| Just tell me, when you you use two terms, brother, that is putting the fear of God in these people: money laundering and terrorist financing. | ||
| You've got literally the pros from Dover Treasury, the the heart the pipe hitters over there that know this backwards and forwards, now focused on people that may be doing this to fund these uh organizations in the United States. | ||
| Is do I read that correctly? | ||
| Yeah, that is correct. | ||
| And I think it does demonstrate the sort of seriousness of how the Trump administration is claiming to be aiming to go after these sort of funding networks. | ||
| Um, I think the real big questions, and this is a question that I posed to a former senior IRS attorney who we quoted in the story, is how the Trump administration uh through any of these investigations is going to aim to uh adequately connect funding to what it calls Antifa. | ||
| And I think the point I'm saying that is that Antifa is not, there's not one Antifa organization. | ||
| It's not a registered charity, it's not a 501c4, it's not a super PAC. | ||
| It's pretty decentralized and grassroots. | ||
| There are it's it's a left-wing movement. | ||
| And so, in order for the Trump administration to adequately sanction and go after its funding networks, there needs to be a determination about what entity it is pursuing and who it is going after. | ||
| And the reason that is notable is because sort of subsequently or or at the same time, the White House has been talking about going after liberal foundations. | ||
| So including one funded by Democratic mega donor George Soros, called the Open Society Foundations, as well as the Ford Foundation. | ||
| And so, with the government talking about going after those groups, it only leads the public to believe that it's possible that they are beginning to determine or aiming to investigate whether those organizations funded by democratic mega donors are the ones that they are saying align with these progressive funding networks. | ||
| The reason Gabe's story is so important. | ||
| You're here on MSMEC, they're they're talking nonstop about there's no Antifas and We say Antifa foot soldiers, you know, on the ground. | ||
| Then you've got the people that train them, a lot of people that are in the government. | ||
| The Antifa guys are saying that in interviews, people that leave those groups saying, hey, Army Special Forces guys, intelligence guys were training us. | ||
| The most important is the interconnections and the financing. | ||
| And that's what Treasury's telling you. | ||
| They're putting their top people on money laundering and terrorist financing to guard for that. | ||
| This is sending shockwaves. | ||
| In fact, Matt Palombo, who wrote the great book on Source and now is about to publish the book on Source of the Sun, is going to be our guest uh tomorrow based upon when he read uh Matt uh when he read Kaminsky's reporting about Treasury, he contacted me right away and said, Hey, I gotta get up. | ||
| This is as important as it gets because they are clearly gonna be the targets. | ||
| Gabe, before I let you go, uh, and by the way, so Grace and Mo, we're gonna put both stories up and push them both out. | ||
| They're kind of two sides of a same coin. | ||
| A whole of government approach, Treasury through the Kaminsky article at Free Press, and then Schwartz at the Wall Street Journal on the Treasury piece. | ||
| Gabe, this is one of the reasons you're seeing the action and how it's putting a chill on the left. | ||
| This is one of the reasons I've been one of the strongest advocates in the White House. | ||
| I tried it, but they just crushed us, to designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. | ||
| Once you get these designations, it opens up a whole toolbox at Treasury at IRS for the whole of government to start looking at these organizations and taking them apart, correct? | ||
| No, that is absolutely correct. | ||
| I think the one sort of important caveat to that is Trump issued an executive order that he that's purported to be designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. | ||
| I think the really important thing for listeners and just the public to be aware of is that really, as we talk about in the show, Antifa is not a single entity, which makes it pretty difficult to sort of designate it as a terrorist group. | ||
| And moreover, uh the U.S. government has a mechanism to designate foreign groups as terrorists, as foreign terrorist organizations, but a domestic decentralized group Antifa, it is difficult. | ||
| And that is why you say actually, with the Muslim Brotherhood, if if the government determines that the Muslim Brotherhood is a single entity, yes, it would be easier to designate them, and that would come with financial ramifications. | ||
| We have to put that at the top of the stack. | ||
| That's something we're obviously working on behind the scenes, uh, as we did in the first term. | ||
| But we got the capital move to Jerusalem. | ||
| So you got to take it, you got to take it a step at a time. | ||
| Gabe, amazing reporting. | ||
| Where do people go to get you at the free press and your social media? | ||
| Yeah, you can follow me on X at G E Kaminsky, G-E-K-A-M-I-N-S-K-Y, and read all of my reporting at the FP.com. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Alison Steinberg was on yesterday. | ||
| She's the uh young reporter at uh Lindell TV that got Nancy Pelosi to jump her. |
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