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WarRoom Battleground EP 870: False Popes Promote False Prophets
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ben harnwell
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frank walker
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jenny holland
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ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Wednesday, 15th of October, Anno Domini 2025.
Hanwell here at the helm for our weekly review of what is all wrong in Christendom, specifically the Catholic Church.
And the reason that we do this show, I have to say this, because I do read all the comments that are posted, especially on Getter, but also on Rumble to these shows.
And a couple of people have said, look, why do you guys bash the Catholic Church so much?
Shouldn't we be building it up?
That the reason we do this as a service to Catholics is because obviously in the Catholic formation, we're expected to give obedience, docile obedience to our bishops, especially including the Pope.
And we do this show so Catholics can be better aware of exactly what is done behind the scenes under the cover of darkness in their name, in Catholics' name, because we're the ones paying for it, keeping the whole thing going with our collection plate offerings.
And I have a view, I won't speak for anyone else, though if anyone else wants to support what I said, they're obviously very welcome.
But I have a view, especially now in the year 2025, that Catholics have a special role, not just in renewing the secular sphere, the temple orders, the Second Vatican Council decree on the laity put it, but I also have a view that we actually have a role in the governance of the Catholic Church itself,
the areas traditionally belonging to the prerogatives of our bishops and our cardinals and our popes.
One of the reasons I think is very strongly, and the reason why we hone in on all of the scandals that are done by the clergy and by the bishops, is because it's manifestly clear to me that the people who expect a free hand to run the church, not only are they not defending and preserving the Catholic faith for the salvation of souls,
they're using the freedom that they have given themselves to commit atrocious and appalling atrocities on the laity themselves.
So that's why I say we should have a stronger role.
And I say this again and again and again.
If people say Hanwell, that's not a traditional point of view, or Hanwell, you're nothing but a Protestant pretending to be a Catholic.
You should just obey the Pope or the Papal pretender, if we're going to throw that one in there.
All I say that the Catholic laity should have in the West is exactly the same prerogatives that the Catholic Church has given To the CCP apparatus in China.
That is to say, the responsibility, the exclusive responsibility of appointing and nominating and appointing bishops in the Catholic Church.
Because I don't see how the Catholic Church can, the Vatican, the Holy See, can look the believe, its believers, its flock in the face and say, you know what, we'll give the right to pick bishops in China to people who spend their day pulling down Christian churches, house churches, cathedrals, both Catholic and Protestant, Catholic and evangelical, I hasten to add.
We're going to give these people who hate Christianity the ability to pick bishops in China.
But in the West, you know, Joe and Mario Catholic, who have been a pillar of their parish for 50 years, then they can't have that right because that's Protestant.
That is the contradiction that lies at the heart of what presents itself to the world as being the Catholic Church.
And whilst I have force in my body, I will resist that contradiction.
And I will resist that contradiction on behalf of the laity, the faithful laity, who with their blood, sweat, and tears and cash have kept this institution on the road over the last 70 years after the Second Vatican Council, whilst our bishops, having that free hand which they give them to themselves, have created a wasteland.
Okay, Frank Walker, you are the Catholic Matt Drudge.
No one spends more time monitoring all the depredations of the Catholic Church than you.
Tell me now, as you recount for the War Room Posse, the first story that we're going to analyze today on the show, when was the last time you saw something as horrific as what we're going to discuss today?
And by the way, folks, by the way, folks, when Frank Walker comes out to reading specifically a portion of a letter, right, trigger warning time, we're not snowflakes here on the war room.
Trigger warning, though.
It is so appalling what you are going to hear on the war room today.
Viewer discretion advice.
And I literally mean that.
I read this and I thought, I don't know how I can read this out loud on air.
It's so appalling.
And this is a guy, Frank Walker, that the Catholic Church proposes for us as a modern-day prophet.
The floor is yours, sir.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Well, this is a great piece that was just out today by Chris Jackson, who we talk about a lot on this show.
He chronicles every day what's going on in Leo's church, and he's been a terrific help.
And he leads in this article with a discussion of the Aachen, I think that's how you say the Aachen diocese in Germany, where they have, in Germany, they've extensively implemented Francis's gay blessings.
Even though they had all these caveats in there, and Leo has mentioned the caveats, they don't add up to anything.
And they're moving forward in these dioceses, and they'll bless anyone that loves each other.
No conditions, all about love.
And that's how he leads off with this story about a late priest, Don Lorenzo Milani, who just this past Saturday, Pope Leo honored him.
And I remember reading about this, and I thought it sounded familiar, but I didn't quite remember.
Francis also, several years ago, honored this guy.
And at the time, I read about him, and a lot of people wrote that he was a communist.
He was a communist priest.
He was sort of a priest, but there's lots of pictures of him with children.
He invented sort of a mode of education in Italy.
And nobody, I mean, they mentioned that he was a communist.
This time, when Leo honored this guy, nobody said anything about it.
Chris Jackson says he's exalting as holy something that's unholy and is institutionalizing confusion.
These are the things that the church is doing.
This is a quote from him.
I care from Don Milani, who founded this way of educating.
I care.
I urge you not to be passive and to do your part to shape the face of the church that cares about people's lives.
How banal and how similar sounding is that to Leo and what we hear today.
And he quotes, and this is the most astounding thing, this piece that Ben just mentioned.
He quotes Don Milani from 1959, one of his letters.
And because.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Careful, careful, Frank, careful, Frank, before you do this, folks, folks, if you've got kids watching the show today, send them out the room for 30 seconds.
I'm not joking.
This is one of the most horrific things I've ever read in my life.
And the fact that it comes from a Catholic priest.
Okay, so look, I think that's given parents a chance, right, to clear the room.
It's this bad, folks.
Frank, floor is yours.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
This is the quote: If there is a danger for my soul, it is certainly not that I have loved too little, but that I have loved too much, meaning even to the point of taking them to bed.
And then who will ever be able to love boys to the bone without, in the end, putting it up their backside, if not a teacher who, together with them, also loves God and fears hell and longs for heaven.
The conflation of this perversion with the sacred and with communism, it's all in one.
It's all in one in this guy that Francis and Leo both honor.
Why both of them?
That's the thing.
Why both of them honor him?
And it's just amazing.
And this kind of thing of conflating the sacred perversion with, I mean, perversion with the sacred.
This is part of Francis's and Leo's church.
You see with the gay blessings going on.
And the head of the dicastery of the doctrine of the faith, he also does that.
He has previous writings, just like this, this priest, this late priest, that conflate the two together.
Now, this priest founded a movement, the Barbriana movement, and the man who went and ran ahead and created a commune with this is spending 14 years in prison.
So that's what he goes on.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Yes, he is.
Let's just.
So we've put out the, we've read out now the scandalous quotation from this 1959.
Hold on to that date, 1959, because we're going to come back to that issue.
Frank, you're going to come back to that issue later on in the show.
Because this is what was brewing in the Catholic Church in the last century.
So that's the quote.
Okay, so it's basically soft pederast porn, right?
It's a priest saying, basically, he's taken boys to bed.
And he says, who's ever going to be able to love boys to the bone without in the end, put it without in the end, putting it up their backside?
I don't know if you could legally even write that kind of letter these days.
Why do I say pay attention, folks, to the hierarchy of the Catholic Church?
Because the man who wrote that letter has been called by the late unlamented Pope Francis a role model for priests.
Okay.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
And a prophet.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
He's been called a prophet by the man who currently presents himself to the world as Pope with the stage name Leo XIV.
Okay, that's the point here.
And then they called him a role model for priests and Pope Leo called this man a prophet.
Sorry, Frank, do continue.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Well, isn't it interesting that they both honor the same guy?
I mean, there are many people like this who they could honor.
They could pick someone new.
And to me, it suggests that almost that there's sort of like a script that they're both running by, that there are powerful people that are kind of helping them with their message.
So they're moving right into the exact same message.
They didn't come up with anything new.
And it's very timely that this is happening now because Leo just came out with his exhortation, 100 pages to Lexi Tay.
It's been roundly condemned by traditional Catholics as a communist screed.
All about equality and the poor.
And the poor are a sacrament.
The poor are Christ.
The poor are God.
Why is this?
It shows the reason why they're mentioning this now is not for the perversion.
It's for the communism.
He honored him for being a communist, starting a commune, telling people to fight the rich.
They don't say fight the rich anymore like they did back in the 60s.
Now they say change the structures.
We need new structures.
But the perversion goes along with it.
And Francis always said, that doesn't really matter.
Those are small sins.
The important thing is the new structures.
But you know, as Catholics, that they go together.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
I'm sorry, folks, that we've had to read this out on the show today, but this is the horror of what is going on by the people who expect us to blindly give them obedience.
This letter was written in 1959, but the guy who wrote it, I think he died in like the early 70s, didn't he?
72 or perhaps.
But the guy who wrote it is being held up, I repeat, by Bergoglio as a model for priests and the current papal pretender, Leo XIV himself, as a prophet.
And this guy, Don Milani, he called the then Pope, no, 59, so Pius XII would just have, excuse me, in 52, it's a separate letter.
He called Pius XII, who was then Pope, the last undoubted true Catholic Pope who died in 58.
He called Pius XII.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
And before we move on, the final update is that in 2017, Pope Francis left the Vatican to go and visit and pray at the tomb of this priest Dom Milani, who died in 1967.
There it is.
He died in the late 60s.
67.
That is the guy that these people think is to be held up as a model for priests and a prophet.
The people who do that, I will resist them with every molecule in my being.
And more than that, for the faithful that don't have the platform of the war room at their disposal, that is to say, people, the vast majority of lay Catholics, I will speak up in your name as well.
Frank Walker, you do too constantly with your website, Canon 212.
We'll be coming back later, sadly, for further depredations in the Catholic Church.
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Jenny Holland, I first came across Charles Murray, the political scientist, when I was at university with one of the most famous books, I think, on social science since the Second World War.
Famous also because of its controversial linking between IQ and racist, the book called The Bell Curve.
And many people will have heard of that book.
And Charles Murray was one of the two co-authors.
He's come out an article which you flagged up.
Very interesting.
Tell us a bit about what Charles Murray has published yesterday.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, so you're right.
Charles Murray gained infamy actually from the 90s onwards with the publication of The Bell Curve.
And he is affiliated now with the American Enterprise Institute.
He's a social scientist of long standing.
He was also the subject of a very sort of brutal cancellation in 2017 when he was shut down and almost attacked, really, by a group of students at Middlebury College in Vermont, which is one of the things that kind of alerted me personally to how vicious the culture wars and how actually kinetic almost the culture wars were becoming.
Now he has written a book published today, and the free press, Barry Weiss's free press, published an excerpt of it.
And I think there's two things that are significant here.
One is the free press element, because as it was widely reported a couple of weeks ago, the free press has been bought by Paramount and Barry Weiss has gone to head up CBS News.
So the Free Press really represents the new and developing establishment, a new liberal non-woke establishment.
So these are not right-wingers.
This is not MAGA.
They are consistently anti-woke, but they, again, they're not MAGA.
And yet they keep returning to this idea of God.
And I think that's very interesting and very telling.
They did a piece a few months ago about God in the tech world in Silicon Valley.
They hosted a debate with Ayan Hirsi Ali earlier this year whether we need a resurgence of God.
And now this.
So clearly, even in the mainstream liberal non-woke elite, and because really strongly must emphasize the free press is the liberal non-woke elite, the highest echelon of it, there is an attention being paid to how much God is really needed.
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And Charles' piece was very interesting.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
In many ways, it resonated with me personally because my father and the family I grew up in was similarly sort of science-oriented and liberal in a classical sense.
And he describes, interestingly, what he described as his secular catechism growing up.
So he's very much a typical liberal boomer, joined the Peace Corps straight out of college in the 60s, very idealistic and globally minded.
And he described the secular catechism as focusing on three points.
One is that science and God are fundamentally incompatible.
Two is that humans are animals and our consciousness dies with our animal bodies.
And three was that religion universally, including Christianity, but all religions are human inventions that are meant to help us reconcile with the reality of death.
And there's no evidence to support Christianity or any other religion.
And he is finding that now, in his 70s, I suppose, if not a bit older, that he's finding what he now calls this very unreflective.
So the piece is very sort of mild-mannered, not to say milquetoast.
I don't want to be unkind.
But he describes it sort of being nudged along the way and in ways that I find fairly familiar.
My own, and I end up in a similar position, very open to Christianity, but not fully, I haven't fully converted or anything like that.
And he's kind of at the same point.
But where I am coming from, what's driving me towards it are much more visceral realities that he does not mention in this excerpt, like the transing of children and the crazy other terrible things that we've done to children and young people under a so-called liberal paradigm and secular paradigm.
But he's kind of coming to the same conclusion, which is that humans have a fundamental need for not just a spiritual element, which we do, but also a sort of benign moral authority that kind of oversees us all.
So I thought that was a very interesting take.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
And he also refers to having a God-shaped whole, right?
Even though he didn't realize that at the time.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, he does.
You know, he mentions that he had never, one of the things that he was lucky enough to never experience despair and sort of like a long dark night of the soul, which surprised me given what he went through with the Velker, but I'll take him at his word, that kind of terrible event that happened that drives you to God because you're crying out for mercy.
He says he's never experienced that.
So he's coming from it in a very kind of scientific, rational way, which, you know, I don't know.
I mean, I think you can have an argument about that, but I suppose whatever gets you to where you need to go is not a bad thing.
And again, I cannot stress this enough.
The most interesting thing about this is that it is coming from the sort of most tweed jacket, polite, Ivy League, you know, chin scratching world and not at all a fire-breathing, passionate Christian community.
So this is, I think, really what this is saying, as sort of as mild-mannered as this piece is, you know, this is not passionate of the Christ by any means.
I think it's just yet another piece of evidence that there's these green shoots coming up in very unexpected places and not coming from the Catholic Church itself.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Charles Murray, in the social science world, Charles Murray's household name, a very, very well-known guy.
I think this book really comes, there's something providential about this book coming out at this particular time.
Is it the sort of book that, from what you've said of this extract today, this article in the Free Press, is this a sort of book that you would give to people who are on the same sort of journey as you are, Jenny, which in your own words, which is open towards Christianity, but not necessarily yet sort of signing off, let's put it like this, signing off on all of the dogmas of the traditional Catholic faith.
Do you think this book would help people, especially as you say, because it's coming really from a science background rather than an overtly proselytizing intention?
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Definitely.
Definitely.
Yeah, I think that that sounds accurate.
I don't know if I would personally, it seems like he's coming at it from a very professorial and measured angle.
And so I think it would be a very good introduction for someone who shares that temperament or that background.
Personally, that is not me.
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I am neither professorial nor mild manner.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
And I personally am being driven toward belief in the Christian faith from very much a position as a mother who sees great harms being done to children in the secular world.
But it's very, very important that we have the right people to speak to the right audience at the right time.
And it seems to me that this Charles Murray book may in fact be that, and that it may bring to these very rarefied kind of campus environments.
I don't mean the crazy woke campus, I mean the sort of older generation, the idea that God is acceptable and in fact necessary.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
That is to say that you can subscribe to Christian faith through rational argument as well.
There's no contradiction between accepting a huge part of the scientific modern explanation for the world and supernatural Christian faith.
There's not the tension between the two that a lot of people, without thinking too much about it, automatically assume there to be, right?
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Yes.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
And also that you may in fact be able to be a professed Christian and also be part of polite society and the dinner party circuit.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
It's a long time, Jenny Holland, since anyone has considered me to be part of polite society, and that includes being on the dinner party circuit.
So I think that a boat, as far as I'm concerned, sailed quite some time ago.
Stay with us, Jenny.
We're going to come to you in the second part of the show with more breakdown and analysis.
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ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Welcome back, folks.
Well, in 10 minutes, we'll be back with Jenny Holland to learn more about the absolute decimation of the Catholic faith in the once former Catholic Ireland.
But I think all of the stories today are of a piece, Frank Walker.
I'm sure you'll agree with me that there's a certain winning theme through this.
Let's go now to Florida, to your neck of the woods.
Father, former father, he has been defrogged, but Father Neil Docherty.
This is a guy who has been described, and I quote, as probably the most prolific paedophile priest in U.S. history.
Tell us a bit about Father Doherty.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, well, this is close to home.
They say he's probably responsible for molesting thousands.
I don't know how that's even possible, but that's what this article says about him.
He's convicted of a string of sex offenses more than a decade ago.
He was sentenced to 15 years in jail.
He was in the neighboring parish to mine when I was a kid.
This goes back to when I was a kid.
I have friends who were altar boys in this guy's person when they were in the choir.
And they mentioned that what he would do was he would invite the kids in the neighborhood.
And I remember that neighborhood.
It was, you know, the parish was in the middle of a neighborhood.
It wasn't like out on a highway or anything.
And kids would be playing around there.
Back then, in those days, kids were free and they weren't all kept inside.
And he would catch them for 20 years.
He was pastor.
I think around 20 years in this parish.
Anyway, they ended up finally getting him.
He raped on a victim that he raped around 1995 when he's around 16 years old multiple times.
And it's part of many lawsuits that have gone into.
They said up almost three quarters of a million dollars they've already paid out.
That's what they have released.
I've been filed against the diocese in the past five years.
And when he was there, Bishop Edward McCarthy at the time, who actually gave me my confirmation, he knew about this.
In fact, they knew about this in the 50s when they, before they ordained him, because they used to screen for these things.
But at some point, everything switched.
And not only did they screen them out, but sometimes they screened them in.
I think they did a lot of that too.
And it's just amazing.
Things were very different back then.
You know, they put them in classes.
They put them, they sent them away for psych evaluation.
In the 90s, they said they shouldn't be around kids, but nothing was done.
Yeah, after he spent 10 years behind bars, and now he's still alive.
He's just moved away from the Miami Archdiocese and up to Orlando and he's on the list.
But he used to hypnotize children and drug them before the abuse of nobody had any idea about this.
I just remember this.
I think this ties in with everything else.
I remember being confirmed by this bishop who did nothing about this pastor.
And he had a little plaque and he taught us, the love in our hearts wasn't put there to stay.
Love is not love until given away.
And that's a wonderful, very warm-hearted thing to say.
It reminds me of Leo's church.
It reminds me of the priest of caring that we just learned about, Don Milani, and how much love he had for those boys.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
It's exactly that.
That is exactly the case.
They use these little pious expressions that means one thing to Catholic parents, to the parish, and to the latest.
They all know that it means something completely different.
Because as you say, the church used to screen out its applicants for ordination, guys with these tendencies.
And then at around this stage, it was right, I think it was the 20 years before the Second Vatican Council and the 20 years following it.
That was mostly where these abuses took place 20 years before the council, 20 years after.
Then they started screening him.
They wouldn't let you go forward for ordination if you weren't part of the lavender mafia, as we say from time to time on this show.
You mentioned that psychological evaluation, Frank Walker.
I just want to repeat that, right?
They knew, they knew, they knew, they said this psychological evaluation in the 1990s indicated that this priest, Father Doherty, should not have any access to children.
And yet he was.
As you said, as you said, he allowed, he encouraged kids to come and play in the playground of the parish where he picked this guy, John Doe, number eight, and repeatedly raped him, this 16-year-old boy, in the mid-90s.
Because how can you love a boy to the bone, right?
Or whatever the expression was that Father Milani used, unless you then basically, you know, commit pederasty on him, sodomy on him, on a boy.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
It's how convenient to institutionalize this and bless it now.
You know, if they can just get the Catholic Church to actually make this all seem okay, even to the point of with children, then imagine all the money that they could save.
Imagine all the trouble because you can see that this culture is a culture that they were all in, that they've supported.
And we have another story here about in New Orleans that I was just looking at.
The guy was very well connected.
It's been years, years them trying to attract this Father Ford who was in the government, who knew the judges, who counseled the New Orleans, who is now in a big bankruptcy case, counseled them how to use the same PR that the New Orleans Saints do to try to fight against it.
The more connected you are, the more you get away with it.
Imagine how they are now, connected to the globalists.
I mean, they have no choice.
They have to be spouting this globalist religion because otherwise they're in a lot of trouble.
It works very well to have these connections in the church.
This is the culture we have, but the secular world gave us this.
And Ben said, it's our place to try to recover it as secular people, as lay people.
Bishop Sheen says it's up to the lay people to give the church back.
And having the lay people rise up and fight against these anti-Catholic things has been going out throughout history.
It's not un-Catholic.
It's part of our history.
We own it.
We have a right to defend the church from this culture, which you can see is metastasized now.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
So this guy here, Father Doherty, it says the Archdiocese of Miami knew as early as 1958 that he was unsafe to be around children.
1958.
So that was the year I plugged out at the beginning when we were talking about Don Milani in Italy, right?
That was 1959, that letter that we cited in the first half of the show.
That's like Florida and Italy.
This is right across the world, right?
And you will say, well, okay, after the crisis, the scandal blew out full international attention in 2002.
Things have changed.
Well, what has changed is the rhetoric from our bishops and our cardinals and the popes.
The rhetoric has changed.
But as, Frank, we've been covering on this show over recent months, the reality apparently hasn't really changed that much.
What have we highlighted on this show?
We've been highlighting dioceses where there's like vicar generals who are appointed, who've gone to prison, right?
The number two after the bishop.
Which was the diocese in France?
The number two, the vicar general, number two after the bishop.
He had been to prison.
He had been to prison.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
And they're canonizing.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
He's been to prison for raping for raping boys, right?
And they put him in as the number two of the diocese in France.
It might have been Lyon.
I can't remember now, right?
And they use the justification was mercy, right?
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
That's right.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
It was mercy.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Mercy towards the wounded.
Mercy towards the wounded is what's needed.
And they're calling these people prophets from the very top of the church.
And they're making saints out of the bishop that you, the priest that we did a while back ago, the Jesuit, the head of the Jesuit order, looked the other way, just like this bishop in Miami.
He looked the other way for a long, long time.
And these cases, you know, if they disappear from the list of priests, this priest, Father, the one that they just picked up in Indiana that worked in New Orleans, four times he disappeared, four times in the list as members of clergy.
That means that four times he was caught in New Orleans, in Dallas, in New Mexico.
And this happened to another priest, and they're canonizing them.
They're calling them prophets.
And so we know it's a part of the church.
And they say 62% of Catholics still think it's a problem just because they see with their own eyes.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Frank, false popes praise false prophets.
That is the only conclusion I can draw from this false popes pullout for emulation, false prophets.
You mentioned the head of the Jesuits just now.
I don't know if that's General Father Soza, right?
Father de Soza.
Father Soza.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Now it is, yeah.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Today.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Okay, okay.
Jesuits, the same order.
Yes, of course, you're right.
But it's Father Soza, the current guy, who famously said, scandalously said, that when someone had highlighted our Lord's criticisms of adultery or something like that, he said, you know, we didn't have a tape recorder in those days to record our Lord's words, to be able to quote him precisely.
That's what these people like.
They have the highest positions in the church.
It's a grift, Frank Walker.
It's a grift what these people do.
They have the highest positions in the church.
They could not care less.
They could not care less what our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, says.
They dismiss it and say, oh, well, you know, we didn't have a tape recorder.
And on the flock, it's not just that these people are hiring shepherds.
On the flock, they unleash these predators.
That is, sadly, all we have time for on this one.
I'm sure next Wednesday we'll be back with more horror stories.
But we must quickly get to Jenny for the last story of the show.
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Jenny, so let's come back to you now for the final segment of this show and the absolute decimation of Catholic Ireland.
Just to pluck one statistic out here, in the last 30 years, the number of working priests has fallen from 6,000 priests to 2,000.
In the UK, there are only 16 young guys who are going forward for ordination this year and 13 in Ireland itself.
This is the springtime.
This is the consequence, the results of the springtime we were promised at the Second Vatican Council.
It's been absolutely, I cannot think of any institution that has been more damaged by a set of decisions than the Catholic Church has been damaged by the Second Vatican Council.
And it is amazing to me that the hierarchy, the institution of the Catholic Church responsible for unleashing this failure and incompetence on the Catholic Church is still pushing ahead with it after 70 years.
It's full steam ahead into this iceberg.
Jenny, you're in Ireland, the island of Ireland.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
The northern part of it.
Tell us more about what is going on over there right now.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, well, I am a native of Ireland and I do live on the island of Ireland, as you said.
This is a shocking article.
I mean, I am very, very familiar with how secular Ireland has become.
My experience of it in the 90s and to the present day is of a country that is vastly secularized.
And I have very few memories of the old Catholic Ireland that my father would have grown up in.
But yes, 13 men have joined the seminary this year in Ireland.
And that was reported by the UK Sunday Times this weekend.
13 men in all of the country.
The story also reports a survey from the Iona Institute, which is a Catholic think tank, saying that 16% of Irish Catholics go to Mass weekly.
16, 1, 6%, down from something in the 90s, 90% mark, you know, a couple of decades ago.
I mean, these numbers are so low.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Jenny, let me stop you on that one because this couldn't be clear.
At the time, I think 62, 1962, which was the year that the Second Vatican Council was called, Nine out of ten Catholics, as you say, 90%.
Nine out of ten went to nine out of ten, went to Mass every week, and that is now down, thanks to David Quinn, at the Iona Institute in Dublin, down to 16%.
That is an absolute decimation from 990% to 16.
Might couldn't be starker, couldn't be clearer.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
And I would somewhat, I wouldn't put it on Vatican II necessarily.
Where I would place the blame for this is 100% on the sexual hypocrisy of the church leadership and the church structure.
The Irish population, and this is very much how the liberal secular Ireland perceives it.
Okay, their argument is that the Irish church oppressed women and children throughout Ireland since the founding of the Republic and before, and then was turned around to be found to be flagrantly abusing children.
So it's the sexual hypocrisy that you guys were talking about in the first segment with that jaw-dropping letter that you mentioned written in 1959 by a priest who is now being celebrated by the popes.
Okay.
So this absolute baked in rot, this endemic do as I say, not as I do attitude towards sexuality, Ireland really got the rough end of that, very much so.
And I don't think that can really be debated that much.
As a result, there has been, as this article says, a complete collapse of trust in the church.
And there's a few very poignant anecdotes of a few priests who were soldiering on and describing what is even the most shocking part isn't the numbers.
The most shocking part is a bishop who is a traditional Catholic, Bishop of Waterford, I believe, describing the church as almost the priesthood as almost an underground movement.
And he's encouraging young men to go into the priesthood as a sign of a counterculture.
So what has happened in Ireland, and it's happened very fast, I have to say, because I was still living, I was a university student when the divorce referendum came in.
So it's within my lifetime, within my adult lifetime, that this has happened.
The Irish population seems to have replaced almost wholesale the Catholic religion with a fealty to woke religion.
So the end result for Ireland has not been some sort of freedom and liberation.
It has been an adoption of a new set of incredibly false beliefs that are quite damaging.
And one of the things that actually really made me quite sad was at the end of the article, they talk about how GAA, which is the Gaelic Athletic Association, which is their sort of their big sporting body, it's their national sport of hurling and Gaelic football, is the new church.
So they're able to build these wonderful new facilities.
But the GAA is also quite woke.
The GA, for example, operates a club in Palestine.
So Palestine has more resonance and more power over the Irish imagination and more loyalty than the actual Catholic Church.
That is shocking.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Shocking, but a sign of the times.
And to support what you're saying, Jenny, among the 40% who view the Catholic Church unfavorably, 73% said it was because of, you guessed it, the abuse scandals.
Jenny, where do people go to keep up with you on Substack?
I know your Semper Femina site always gets ever more followers on Twitter, but tell me about Substack and Getter and Twitter.
jenny holland ▲ ● ▼
Yes, please, please follow my Substack as well.
It's jennyeholland.substack.com.
And yes, I am Semper Femina because I'm not changing.
Semper Femina21 on X.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
And Frank Walker, where do people go to keep up with you and the aforementioned Canon 212?
frank walker ▲ ● ▼
Canon212 with one end.
Type it up in the address bar.
And Twitter is Canon212, all spelled out.
The daily update is at the site on the right-hand column.
And you can also see it at Rumble and Gloria TV.
ben harnwell ▲ ● ▼
Folks, we'll be back next Wednesday.
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