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Oct. 10, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4841: First Day Of A True Ceasefire In Gaza; Prosecute The Left's Surveillance State
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steve bannon
23:28
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andrew weissman
01:06
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dr gina loudon
04:20
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jack posobiec
04:41
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joe rogan
01:08
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joel gilbert
04:01
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jorgen watne frydnes
01:53
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letitia james
01:54
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eugene robinson
00:25
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jake tapper
00:10
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joe scarborough
00:12
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marc elias
00:55
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steve harrigan
00:57
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thomas l friedman
00:53
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Speaker Time Text
unidentified
Now Israel's defense forces will move behind agreed upon lines inside Gaza and the ceasefire will take effect.
Once the IDF has moved to new positions, a seventy-two-hour clock to release the remaining hostages will begin.
President Trump said yesterday he expects the hostages to be released on Monday or Tuesday.
The United States is preparing to send about 200 troops to Israel to help support and monitor the ceasefire deal.
They will not enter Gaza, but they will be there to help with transportation and planning.
U.S. forces will also help coordinate humanitarian and security assistance into Gaza.
jorgen watne frydnes
The Nobel Peace Prize for 2025 goes to a brave and committed champion of peace, to a woman who keeps the flame of democracy burning amidst a growing darkness.
The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided to award the Nobel Peace Prize for 2025 to Maria Kurina Machado.
She is receiving the Nobel Peace Prize for her tireless work promoting democratic rights for the people of Venezuela and for her struggle to achieve a just and peaceful transition from dictatorship to democracy.
As the leader of the democratic forces in Venezuela, Maria Corina Machado is one of the most extraordinary examples of civilian courage in Latin America in recent times.
Ms. Machado has been a key unifying figure in a political opposition that was once deeply divided, an opposition that found common ground in the demand for free election and representative government.
letitia james
government.
This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system.
He is forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding.
all because I did my job as the New York State Attorney General.
These charges are baseless and the President's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost.
The president's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties.
His decision to fire a United States attorney who refused to bring charges against me and replace them with someone who is blindly loyal not to the law, but to the president, is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.
andrew weissman
So she is now joining uh judges on the West Coast, both in San Francisco and in Portland, who have ruled the exact same way with respect to the administration's use of the military.
Um I do think that the way that you've been first talking about this, which is not as a legal matter, but sort of as a policy matter, the idea of using the military unnecessarily and what standard that sets is the right way to look at it.
Um, because it's sort of this is so unusual in this country, um, and I think it sort of normalizes it to start getting into the weeds on the law points.
But since I'm a lawyer, yeah, um, the law point here, and the real thing that is notable is that Judge Immergut in Portland and now Judge Perry in uh Illinois are basically saying in judicial words that they just don't believe the Trump administration that what they're doing is untethered to the facts on the ground.
In other words, that there's nothing that is happening in either location that would justify bringing in the military.
thomas l friedman
Basically, Israelis and Palestinians can no longer find their way uh, I think out of this conflict alone.
It can no longer be solved at the level Of the two of them.
All trust has been completely stripped, you know, from the two sides, especially after this war.
And what you see in Gaza is the outlines of basically a kind of international mandate.
U.S. uh U.S. allies, Arab partners uh working with Palestinians, basically to uh uh build their capacity to govern Gaza and to assure Israel also that under no conditions will Gaza ever be able to threaten them.
That kind of international mandate uh for Gaza, um, if it were actually extended to the West Bank, might be the foundation of building us a bridge back to a two-state solution.
So I like it in the short term.
I think it has real potential in the long term, too.
unidentified
How has this campaign-like activity by the president and his supporters uh domestically and internationally affected the deliberations and the thinking in the committee?
jorgen watne frydnes
In the long history of the Nobel Peace Prize, I think this committee have seen any type of campaign, media attention.
We receive thousands and thousands of letters every year of people wanting to say what for them leads to peace.
Uh this committee sits in a room filled with the portraits of all laureates, and that room is filled with both courage and integrity.
So our we base only our decision on the work and the will of Alfred Nobel.
marc elias
I think this started with James Tomey, and this is gonna end with it with Tish James.
You are sadly mistaken.
We are only eight months into this administration, and we have already seen a U.S. Senator thrown to the ground in uh for trying to ask a question at a press conference.
We have already seen a member of Congress indicted in New Jersey.
We have seen the controller of New York manhandled.
Uh, we have now seen the former uh uh uh the former FBI director uh uh indicted at the direction of the president, now now um the attorney general of New York.
unidentified
Oh, they arrested an older person in Chicago the other day for attempting to ask questions.
marc elias
The days of the Department of Justice and the rules that everyone keeps citing to me.
Well, the rules of this, the rules, those rules, that rule book is gone.
Okay, those rules are gone.
This is a unitary, this is a president who believes he controls the department of justice, and he decides who's guilty, who's innocent, who gets indicted, and who gets prosecuted.
And if we don't all wake up to that, then we're gonna keep having this conversation about who checked what box on a form.
Nothing about who checked what box on a form is what this case is about.
joe scarborough
I mean, this is this is basic, and yet Republicans, whether you're talking about welfare, whether you're talking about National Guard going to different all of these things, they're setting themselves up for a hard fall down the road.
eugene robinson
Yeah, just go back as far as you want.
This is the way it works.
This is what happens, and uh it and and the the guard against doing that is it norms, right?
There are norms that are part of our system.
And this administration you know breaks them willy-nilly, and the Republican Party will regret this down the road.
It's just as simple as that.
steve harrigan
Yeah, the good is that obviously the ceasefire is holding, the ceasefire is working, and these people feel free to make their way north.
They are work walking along a main seaside route along the Mediterranean, heading north towards Gaza City.
And as you pointed out in the last hour, many of them on foot for a number of different reasons.
Either too poor to own a car, the fact that their cars could have been destroyed in the war, but also their cars could have been confiscated by Hamas during the war.
That happened quite a bit.
And finally, a lot of the roads so badly damaged after two years of fighting on foot is the only way to travel.
And you can see many of these people carrying their belongings.
Many of them have been displaced multiple times during this war.
And as Brian noted, the clock has begun.
Now, 72 hours until Hamas has to release the hostages.
That would put the deadline at 5 a.m. on Monday.
Prime Minister Netanyahu gave an address to the nation a short time ago.
He said Hamas not only has to give up all the hostages, but they will also have to disarm.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's one time I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that Any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Bannon.
steve bannon
It is Friday, uh 10th September in the year of our Lord 2025.
Uh Jack Basobick is going to join me.
We got Jack for a little while.
He's got a bounce.
Um Jack, very special day uh for this country and a very special day for the turning point people, is it not, sir?
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, thanks so much for having me on.
Uh that's right.
Today is one month, Mark's one month, since we saw Charlie Kirk murdered by a leftist.
We saw thousands of leftists celebrating it in the wake of that disgusting murder that took place.
steve bannon
Millions.
Millions.
jack posobiec
Utah.
steve bannon
Millions.
jack posobiec
Utah Valley, tens of thousands, millions.
And millions.
steve bannon
Come on.
jack posobiec
And in the wake of that, you know, we saw we saw incredible things happen.
And by the way, the mainstream media's response, you know, to said to claim both sides and claim that, oh, what about right wing violence?
I said, show me one instance of violence in the wake of Charlie Kirk's murder from the right.
Show me one.
I'll pay you.
I will pay you.
I'll dare you.
There's nothing.
There's not one.
We respond, we don't respond like that.
We don't riot.
We don't attack.
We have prayers.
We have vigils, candlelight vigils.
But what we do respond with is government action.
And that government action is a joint terrorism task force, the DOJ, and of course, everyone saw the Antifa round table that we held um a couple of days ago.
But just to take it back.
Steve, I I, you know, I just wanted to tell you, by the way, personally, that um, you know, when when this all happened, I was on air.
I was hosting human events daily, and we didn't know what the status was.
It was just a rumor at one point, and then we learned more, and we learned more, and we learned more.
And uh you were we were both in DC at the time and uh had the opportunity to come over and and be in the war room together.
And I was just uh glad to be there in the war room with you going through all this, and um it meant a lot.
And you know, I I don't know what would have happened without uh without you being there.
unidentified
So I always appreciate that, man.
steve bannon
Well, I thank you, and I think uh, you know, we were gonna go out together, leave immediately to go to Utah, and uh you made the right move in talking to uh your partners and the folks at Turning Point to stay in DC and do media to make sure you could explain it because they were misinterpreting right off the bat Charlie Kirk, you know, so he's inflammatory all that.
I think you did a magnificent job.
Uh, I also will tell you, going to Utah was a wake-up call for me.
I had no idea about the issues in in Utah, and we'll drill in on that in the days and weeks ahead.
But uh, you know, Andrew and and and Tyler and the entire team came up there.
But Utah was a um was a wake-up call for me of of how far some of this radical, like the armed, was it the armed queers of Salt Lake City, uh, and and others and of course we have Anna Plant and how prevalent.
John John Brown and how prevalent, you know, the the situation in St. George, where you have this other uh tranny that killed his uh who's a Mormon, you know, these these these kids that fall out of the Mormon church, that he uh he killed his parents brutally and then burned the house down.
I think he killed himself too.
It's just it's the radical nature of what's going on, and this is why Cox, I think is he's got some accountability here.
What's happening to the school system in in Utah, and uh it's shocking.
And uh Charlie Kirk is an American hero and a patriot for going into that the cockpit every day and and fighting that and doing it.
And I think that's why his uh his memory will live on in his work as the folks in turning point every day.
We toss, you know, we tossed the show to him.
What you guys are doing extraordinary.
You had what 6,000 people in Montana State, I think the other night.
It continues to go on.
I think Glenn Beck had a huge Glenn Black was off the charts last night in North Dakota, right?
So it continues.
You'll never be able to replace out.
That truck board taught us a lot.
Um Jack, we got a lot, we don't have you for a long time.
We got a lot to go through.
I'm gonna take a commercial break.
We got D. Jack Basobic.
It's one month since the death of uh one of the greatest patriots of the 21st century, Charlie Kirk.
I shouldn't say death, the assassination in cold blood of one of the uh greatest Americans uh of his era of any age.
That would be Charlie Kurt.
It's what I say with uh Breitbart and Charlie Kirk, Andrew Braper, Charlie Kirk, Donald Trump.
These people come along once a generation of that, and you've got to get everything out of them while they're here because you don't know when they're not gonna be here.
Andrew Breitbart died of uh uh he had a bad heart from the beginning, but died of uh a man with the heart of a lion, but died uh of a uh bad heart at what 42 or 43, Charlie Kirk 31.
This is why it's so important to we have to get everything out of Trump while we've got him.
And I mean everything.
That's one big on Trump 2028.
The um here's here's the the thing about the Nobel Prize.
If it was not for President Trump, the opposition leader in Venezuela wouldn't even exist.
It's President Trump that has cleared a space in Venezuela for her to actually operate.
And yes, she's brave heroic, but President Trump, I mean, come on.
Bless it are the peacemakers.
We're going to talk about it all with Jack Posobiec next in the War Room.
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steve bannon
So, Jack, I'm gonna come back to Antifa and this court ruling yesterday for delay for a couple days.
I want to go to the peace deal, obviously the Nobel Prize.
They're never going to give it to Trump.
They can't, because then it breaks the narrative.
So they're not gonna, they're not gonna do that.
Um, because then Trump will stay around past 28.
So they're not gonna do that.
Um can I call for this Fox footage?
Jack, we saw a scene this morning, I think it was on Fox that's truly biblical, right?
These are these are look right there.
If we can get that up on the main screen.
Um you've got uh you've got look at that right there.
For it's this is people in Gaza heading from the south back up to the north.
Why?
It looks like exit, or it looks like that scene in Gandhi.
When you remember in Pakistan and India, they're all going to this is this is exodus right here.
Uh these are folks, they're heading north.
Why are they heading north?
Uh, because the guy who did not win the Nobel Prize for Peace is now calling the shots here.
Okay.
President Trump has put together a deal, and this is why the Israel First crowd has only themselves to blame.
I keep saying I I was never a two-state solution guy fought against it.
You have a two-state solution.
They're heading up Gaza, that whole beach right there you're seeing, is gonna be uh financed by the Gulf Emirates, uh, Qatar, UAE, and Saudi Arabia, a complete redevelopment.
The two million Palestinians are not leaving, right?
As it's the kind of inhumane drive them all out of out of Gaza, which was so over the top to begin with.
So that's not gonna happen.
They're gonna be there.
And now they've announced the Turks, the Turks are going to be, it's kind of the Ottoman Empire is coming south.
The Turks are gonna provide the security overall, over overall security.
Well, hey, and the West Bank's out, and quite frankly, they're talking about the Persians.
President Trump wants to expand the Abraham Accords.
Now, why is this happening?
You have to go back in time.
If you look at our first trip to the Middle East in May of 2017, and if then if you look at the Abraham Accords, which Jared Kushner was the architect of, then if you look at the meeting in the spring with the golf emirates there, President Trump going back.
Uh, and now if you look at this this deal, this these are these are kind of business and based on commercial.
That's what the whole thing we're talking about.
Then put the politics aside, because the politics always gets into vendettas and all that.
These are deep-seated commercial relationships that are expanding.
That's what the Abraham Accords is.
You've had businessmen and financiers.
You've had Whitkoff, you've had Jarek Kuster, you've had Donald Trump.
They're not politicians.
Okay.
And Dermer and BB have been off to the side.
They haven't even asked in this thing, they're not even asking what the Israelis want.
Just I'm going to give you cold facts, not the cheerleading that Tel Aviv Levin in this crowd, who basically brought this on the nation of Israel.
Because those are hard cold facts.
You see that?
That right there is biblical.
They're heading north.
And they're heading north.
They ain't leaving.
Okay.
And how do we get in this situation?
You have one group to blame.
You have Netanyahu and the America first, the Israel first crowd over here that put Israel's interest and Netanyahu's political interest ahead of the United States of America and the nation of Israel and the Israeli people.
So you got what you've got.
And that ain't never leaving.
Okay.
Just I know you can throw your toys upram today.
Netanyahu's huffing and puffing.
If this doesn't happen, we're going to do it the hard way.
That's all a guy.
President Trump, I think's got a concept when he negotiates.
Not in the room, not in the deal.
And Durman, these guys were not in the room.
Jack Pasobic, you're over.
Now we have a couple of issues like this 200 troops, but I've it's been reaffirmed by the White House that Morning Joe is wrong.
The 200 troops are Sencon troops.
I think they're going to do it at a Doha.
I put it up last night.
They're going to kind of manage they're essentially what Maureen was logistics officers and enlisted non-commissioned officers, but it's it's a logistics nightmare.
And you know, the IDF is too punched out, too tired, uh, and quite frankly, probably not trusted by the Arab nations enough.
So the Americans are going to have some sort of coordinating role at a macro level.
But the Turks, they say Turks cutter, UAE particularly, UAE, which probably got the best fighting force over there, Jack, uh, are really providing the day-to-day logistics troops that are going to do this with the IDF.
Your your your thoughts about where we are overall in this, sir.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, I mean, it remains to be seen.
Um, of course, you know, it's incredible the deal.
Um, everyone said it couldn't be done.
This is a testament to Steve Whitkoff, the fact that this was able to get done the way that it was by bringing the Arab world together in, bring the Turks in as well, Tom Barak, uh, Tom Barak up there in in Turkey.
steve bannon
And they all said it couldn't be done.
unidentified
And and and of course, yes, and Kusherwell and Kushner.
steve bannon
Because if you had if you hadn't done the Abraham Accords, if you hadn't had this this there are times, Abraham Accords with the predicate for all of it.
Predicate, a hundred percent.
Right, yes.
jack posobiec
They were predicate for all of the people who are in the middle of the year.
steve bannon
And in the spring meeting and in the spring meetings in Riyadh and Riyadh and Doha, sometimes it seemed like a Tupperware convention.
I mean, they were so excited, they're cheering, and they're all talking about deals, they're talking about interrelationships, uh commercial flights.
This thing is the reason it's able to get done.
It is a commercial relationships and a business deal by businessmen and financiers and not politicians.
This is should be your big takeaway.
And quite frankly, Steve, they didn't want to hear what Netanyahu had to say about this.
Yeah, go ahead, sir.
jack posobiec
Yeah, my reminding me of when when Donald Trump went to North Korea to meet Kim Jong-un, and in he didn't talk about nuclear, he didn't talk about the P6 plus one talks like Obama and all the neoliberals were talking about.
He said, he said, look at this coastline you got up in North Korea.
Man, you could have some incredible seaside resorts up here.
The bikini girls and the speed boats and all the rest.
He looked at it like a businessman.
He looked at it and said, what could it become?
And you know, he says the exact same thing with that.
That's the East Med, that's some of the most beautiful and by the way, it's year-round.
It's year-round uh temperate climate, it's an incredible climate, obviously, Mediterranean.
Uh, this is a place that you take, you know, you you make it peaceful, it could actually be an incredible spot for all of that.
Now, obviously, you know, that's getting ahead of ourselves, but that's what a businessman's vision is.
When it comes down to it, Steve, this it's all about execution.
It's all about will this be executed properly?
Are people gonna be able to stick with the peace deal?
Uh the leaders of Hamas, are they gonna are they gonna bug out?
Are they gonna take the money and and walk away?
And and I'll say this, by the way, just from my own perspective, and I'm not speaking for anyone on this, But I want to make sure that the Christians are taken care of in this area because I know that this is that's a topic that seems to get overlooked often when you talk about and I understand it's it's it's it's you know Jewish and Muslim uh are the majorities, but there is a significant Christian majority.
No, excuse me, minority.
And they need they need to be kept safe.
Steve, hold on, hold on.
They need to be kept safe.
They need minority rights, they need the guarantees, and by the way, the rebuilding of every single church and Christian holy site that has been affected by this war or damaged by this war needs to be completely covered.
steve bannon
Jack, hang on, I I agree with you, but I don't think it's far enough.
Right now, that's a proto two-state solution.
It just is.
If the Gulf Emirates and the Arabs are putting the money in, and you got the Turks and providing the security, and remember, we're not there is some sort of I think implicit security guarantee, at least at the beginning, get it done.
Now it's been reinforced for the White House that Morning Joe is wrong.
These 200 troops are not going to Israel.
They're certainly not going to Gaza.
They're going to remain in Sencom territory.
I think Doha and do a coordinating factor as Mokate.
This is enormously complicated.
And I don't think the Arab armies are up to the logistics.
And like I said, they they they the IDF, I'm sure is going to be in there helping and assisting, but they're pretty punched out right now, right?
I think they're the first to admit that.
The IDF guy was cried today when he announced it.
The IDF spokesman, uh, I think I put that up on uh on Getter, actually had tears today.
These guys, that army has been has fought for two years almost constantly, right?
Or for at least for and maybe not in the first six months, but they have had a tough ride against those thirty-four.
Remember, the the Muslim Brotherhood got 34 hard combat divisions, or excuse me, I shouldn't say divisions, got 34, I think, brigades in uh in uh in um in Gaza.
And uh these guys have had to go up against them, I think taking out the leadership of all of it.
But Jack, I think if it's gonna be a two-state solution, why not a three-state solution?
Why is there not a Christian state?
And I realize, you know, you're a Catholic nationalist as I am.
Uh I think you gotta start talking about the architecture.
If it's gonna be a two-state solution, why do we not have a Christian state that has some official responsibility for the Christian sites?
The sites of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Why are we using an intermediary?
If they're gonna have a two-state solution, of which we fought for years, but hey, they brought it on themselves.
The the Tel Aviv Levin crowd in this, you got it right there.
You see those you see that biblical shot?
Those people are not leaving.
The two million Palestinians are not leaving, and they're gonna have their own state financed by the Gulf Emirates and secured by an Arab army and the Turks.
Okay?
That's just reality.
That's gonna happen.
And it's happening right now.
So if you got that, Jack Pasovic, why we not why did we not have a Christian state in the Levant that oversees and can protect the Christian sites?
If you got two, why not three?
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, I um I'm I'm right there with you.
I mean, obviously it's it would come down that you'd need some kind of Christian military force.
Look, that this has been tried, right?
We did this in the Crusades, we did the Kingdom of Jerusalem.
Uh you had the European Christians come down and they held the Kingdom of Jerusalem for about 300 years, by the way.
And uh it was, you know, it was there and it ruled um, you know, prior to uh prior to the caliphate coming in or or after the caliphate, you know, came in.
But you know, it's uh it's something I'd love to see.
Steve, I've got a punch.
Um headed out to uh headed out to New Jersey for the rally this evening.
steve bannon
Give us your coordinates.
Give us your coordinates.
I'll promote the rally.
jack posobiec
Absolutely praying for the Christians.
Give me the rally, wildwood.
steve bannon
What's your social media?
jack posobiec
Make sure everyone's there at at Jack Pasobic and Human Events Daily.
steve bannon
Four to seven.
We're live here in Real America's Voice.
The entire war room show is gonna be Benny Johnson, Jack Pasovic, uh Maloney, uh, the whole crowd from Pennsylvania's Pressler that took turned that delivered Pennsylvania, the turning point guys, all of it, four to seven a day, live only on Real America's Voice, and of course five to seven war room in-depth.
Jack Basovic, thank you, sir.
Can Jack Basovic head the new kingdom of Jerusalem?
Need a third state, folks.
You got two.
Let's throw in a third.
Short break.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
steve bannon
Okay, um Dr. Gina Loudon joins us uh from the morning show.
Um, because we're gonna get to it in a second.
Got a kind of a shout out from Joe Rogan and his team uh on the Joe Rogan experience, I think yesterday.
Uh I'll get to that in a second.
Uh, can we put the B-roll up of the biblical?
Because this thing is it's it's it's kind of breathtaking.
Dr. Gina, you're one of the more devout people I know.
Um you if quite frankly, uh, if it wasn't for you and David Brody, we wouldn't have really even had a broadcast for what, 10 or 11 hours or Charlie Kirk's memorial service.
Remember, one month ago today, Charlie was assassinated.
Because Dr. Junior, you knew all the music and the singers and all that.
What do you think of my idea of uh, hey, if you got two states, which we fought forever, but if because the way this was handled, now the Arabs, the golf farmers are in there financing it.
You see the two million, they're not going anywhere.
That whole plan of of getting them out of the Gaza, not gonna happen.
Uh, you're gonna have a proto two-state solution from the beginning.
If you got a two-state solution, why don't the Christians get, I mean, it's the holy sites of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and the foundation of the Christian church.
Why not a third state, ma'am?
dr gina loudon
Well, first, thanks for having me, Steve, and thanks for all you do.
Um, and uh also biggest condolences.
I can't believe it's been a month.
It feels like 10 years, and it feels like an hour.
It's just it's crazy uh the time passage since Charlie's assassination.
But Steve, listen, three-state solution.
I am all in.
I have always wondered why we in this generation, Steve, are neglecting our God-given responsibility to protect the Christian sites that are eroding and being destroyed every single day, all over the Middle East.
And many of us don't even realize you go to you go to Israel today.
You can't even really go to Bethlehem.
There are a lot of areas you can't even go to because they're too dangerous and they are being destroyed as we speak.
So I love the three state solution.
I'm all in.
Anything I can do, Steve Bannon, uh, yeah, I'm in.
unidentified
Fine.
steve bannon
We're kicking it off today.
By the way, the church was a desert church in Egypt and Syria, Antioch, all of it, because of the huge persecution uh by of the Christians in the years 33 to 36.
Uh, they made a decision in 36, the Apostolic Fathers, that you didn't have to be Jewish and convert, uh, that actually Gentiles could become Christians.
So it yeah, we it it the bottom line is it's gonna be two states.
Why is it just the Muslims and the Jews?
Uh it is the beginning of our church.
And in Iraq, it's been destroyed, in Egypt it's been destroyed, in Syria it's been destroyed.
Uh, and uh we gotta protect the sites of the holiest sites we have.
Those are all the churches and cathedrals and the monasteries with the desert fathers and the uh and and and all the her hermits and monks that really kept Christianity alive and going, right?
So, and we need you need a you need a Christian state in the Levant, and you need a Christian state in and if Israel's gonna be divided now between two states, that's what's gonna happen.
Understand this is happening now.
Don't let any happy talker spin, or you know, BB got everything you wanted.
Well, hey, what he did he's got a two-state solution, and they're gonna block any further development of the of Judea and Samaria.
And so now it's time to put on the table a Christian state.
I have additional work for you here.
Uh, and I want to in a normal news cycle, this would be huge and would drive the drive the uh drive the news cycle for two days, but we're overwhelmed with world historical news.
But Joe Rogan and the Joe Rogan experience understood the importance of this.
Let's go ahead and play Joe Rogan.
We'll get Dr. Gina back.
joe rogan
We've seen like what they tried to do to her.
Uh they put her on the quiet skies thing.
So they put her on a terrorist watch list.
She was a U.S. Congresswoman for eight fing years.
She served overseas in uh uh a medical unit, right?
So she was deployed twice in a medical unit in the middle of the fing war, and you you're labeling her a terrorist.
Like whoever did that, like whoever signed off on that should be a jail.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
I mean, that's such an abuse.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's such an abuse of power.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you want to talk about like going after your political enemies in a sick third world country way.
That's a great example that you put a congresswoman for eight years in the terrorist watch.
For what?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
For what reason?
None?
No reason.
There's not like some crazy tweets where she's made, and there's nothing like she's so thoughtful.
It's not even like Marjorie Taylor Green, who gets hog wild sometimes.
She's not like that.
steve bannon
It's a little aggressive.
joe rogan
Yeah, she's a little aggressive.
Tulsi's not like that at all.
unidentified
You put her on a terrorist watch list.
joe rogan
Shame on you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Shame on you.
jack posobiec
She's the director of national intelligence.
joe rogan
Crazy, right?
Well, it's weird how that happens.
unidentified
Yeah, that's fantastic.
steve bannon
Dr. Gina, you were with Tulsi Gabbard on a terror.
I want you to I want people to embrace this.
Dr. Gina Loudon, one of the sunniest, you know, sunshine personality, one of the nicest people I know, uh, has been one of the founders of the Tea Party movement, very close to Sarah Palin at the time, who was kind of Trump before Trump.
It didn't materialize like that eventually.
But you know, people, everybody was all in for Palin and Michelle Bachman and all the T if we hadn't had that Tea Party movement from the financial collapse of 2008, really starting in the spring of 2009 on Tax Day, April 15th, which you know you had Jim Hoff and Michael Patrick Leahy and Jenny Beth Martin and all these folks that uh that came together, I think those 12 or 15 Hennessy, all those 12 to 15 people came together.
But they put you on a terror watch list, ma'am, and Joe Rogan understands the scale of this.
Uh the question is uh tell us about it, and more importantly, what are you gonna do about it, ma'am?
dr gina loudon
Well, it was started under Obama, Steve.
I want to remind folks of that.
This has been going on for a long, long time.
And uh, you know, we're talking about no warrants, no probable cause, zero transparency.
You may have been on that list and you may not even know.
And the fact that it happened to someone like Tulsi Gabbard, the one thing that uh Joe Rogan missed is the the whole reason for it.
She was a political enemy.
She was a turncoat on the Democrats.
They will never forgive her, and they wanted to get her for that.
Now, many of us that were on the list that are on the list, uh, you know, we didn't even know why.
We didn't know what we did.
Uh I still don't to this day know what I did to get on a terror watch list, Steve.
Uh but the bottom line is that I think Tulsi would say, I don't want to speak for her, but just knowing her heart, she would say the real travesty are just the normal American citizens that still sit on this list.
And let's not forget that Tina Peters and other J6ers and other people who were surveilled and who were uh uh arrested for no good reasons.
Uh terrible still sit there.
But right?
Let's not forget.
steve bannon
But just but just like P Hang on just like Peter, we're gonna get to Letitia James in a minute.
What the when the hunters, when the hunted become the hunters, okay?
Uh you just like Peter Navarro, they went on an airplane and pulled you off the airplane like a common criminal, right in front of everybody and then chased you around.
They treated you like a common criminal because they thought they could break you.
They thought they could break the J6 people, they thought they could break Navarre, they thought they could break me, they thought they could break Donald Trump, and guess what?
They were not kind of wrong, they were dead wrong.
And we're now in charge, and that's why Letitia James, we're gonna make a a uh announcement here.
There's gonna be a superseding indictment on her.
What they've seen now, and just like a come.
This is just an appetizers, right?
This is a little thing to get it into the court process.
So what do you are you gonna sue?
Are you gonna talk to Tulsi?
You're gonna be a class action suit?
What are what are you working on behind the scenes?
dr gina loudon
I I would love to sue.
I would love to be part of a class action suit with normal American citizens who were surveilled for absolutely no reason.
But I'll tell you what else.
People need to go to jail for this.
There need to be absolute prosecutions and arrests on this, no more mamsey pansy congressional hearings and speeches about this, all right?
We want arrests on this.
This is wrong.
This has been going on for too long, and it will continue if we don't demand arrests uh when normal American citizens can be surveilled, can be arrested, can be put on terror watch lists.
Well, what while there are while there are sanctuary states, Steve, letting real criminals into their states, and you have innocent American citizens sitting in jail and suffering other consequences, uh jobs, businesses, you know.
I I thank God that Rob Sig saw fit to hire me, because what would I have done as a reporter that couldn't fly On an airplane.
You know, and that's nothing compared to what normal American families have gone through.
If we don't fix this, Steve, in the new administration, when there is another administration, when there is a Democrat elected, because someday again there will be.
I hope it's not soon.
But God only knows the consequences that innocent Americans will suffer if people don't go to jail now.
steve bannon
We we have to make sure on our watch now that never happens.
We have to destroy the Democratic Party.
It's destroying itself, but we have to expose it for the group of Marxist jihadists they are.
I love that juxtaposition.
We just hold that shot.
You got the morning sunshine of Dr. Gina in the dark specter of the war room.
It's very I like how SIG, I like how Rob Sig is thought to the programming here, right?
You get all you get up in the morning to the bright sunshine, and then all of a sudden the dark clouds come in.
Dr. Gina, uh, where do people get the show?
What's your social media?
What are your coordinates?
What are your coordinates?
dr gina loudon
Yeah, uh well, I'm doing Club 47 tonight, which you know is a fun one to do uh on my new book called Daisy.
Oh wow, love those words helping kids uh memorize scripture and love for you guys to go out and get our new book.
I wrote it with Dr. James Mosley, he's amazing, the Bible history guy.
We'll be there tonight.
My uh social is at Real Dr. Gina on virtually every social media out there, and you can catch me mornings on American Sunrise.
steve bannon
Hang on.
You're gonna be I love Club 47.
Club 47 folks is one of those important, it's amazing.
I tell you, when I gave that talk there a couple of years ago, that they stood in the breach.
dr gina loudon
I love you.
steve bannon
They stood in the breach.
These people, these people or these people are amazing.
You give them a shout out tonight, tell them we love them.
I'd love to get them back up here on the show.
So, where do people go for Club 47 for your uh and you're uh you're releasing your new book about teaching kids to memorize Bible verse?
dr gina loudon
Yeah, memorize scripture.
It's the first children's book in a series of 20 that I wrote with the Bible history guy, uh Jim Mosley and uh from Liberty University, ironically.
And uh, we are just trying to, you know, you remember things pneumonically when you're a child if you memorize them then.
So that's the whole idea is to make it fun.
We did it with the illustrator from Veggie Tales, Mike Sofka.
And uh so it's beautiful and it's fun and it's interactive, and uh people are gonna love it.
And uh, you can find all that on my uh website at Dr. Gina's show if you want to go there.
It's all over my social too.
steve bannon
Dr. Gina Loudon, thank you so much for joining us this morning.
Thank you for being a uh patriot and going through think about that.
Dr. Gina Loudon and Tulsi Gabber put on a terror watch list, a terror watch list.
That's that's how the deep state rolls.
That's how the administrative state rolls.
Ma'am, thank you so much.
dr gina loudon
God bless you, my friend.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Thank you.
This is why you got to get on this now.
You got it with this apparatus has to be taken down now.
Dr. Gina's right now.
I don't think, I think the math is showing you, unless they steal elections, they can't win.
They know that.
That's why everything the Democrats are doing around illegal aliens.
The entire redistricting fight, the redistricting wars we're going through now, and the issue about the gun decked census of 2020, which Stephen Miller and I said the time is going to be gun decked unless we specifically make sure that illegal aliens can't be counted.
Well, Wilbur Ross and the Commerce Department folded like cheap suits on that when we didn't have to.
The whole fight for redistricting right now is about illegal aliens.
Everything's happening in Portland and happening in Chicago is about mass deportations of illegal aliens and uh these neo-confederates, these insurrectionists.
I'm talking about the mayors and the governor trying to stop a federal law enforcement officers and ice officers from basically executing on federal law.
Uh the government shutdown, the Schumer shutdown, is about wait for it, wait for it.
Illegal aliens.
They want a what a trillion dollars for illegal alien health care.
And they've got all kinds of ways they hide it, and it goes through the hospitals and through the emergency rooms.
But that's what it's about.
Anyway, we're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna talk about Letitia James, big Tish.
James, and they're all yammering last night about oh, she didn't do anything, she just checked the wrong box.
Yo, well, she did plenty wrong.
Okay, I think the charges against her now are uh are pretty substantial for you know decades in prison, but there's more coming.
The brilliant filmmaker Joe Gilbert's laid it all out.
I think it's up at the gateway pundit.
He's looked into the facts.
He's looked into the details.
What he will tell you will shock you, and it'll show you what a superseding indictment that sends big Tish James away for a long, long time.
Short commercial break.
We're gonna be back in the war in just a moment.
thomas l friedman
For the world through home call.
We will fight till they're all gone.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no law.
Let's take down the CCP.
letitia james
This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of our justice system.
He is forcing federal law enforcement agencies to do his bidding.
All because I did my job as a New York State Attorney General.
These charges are baseless.
And the president's own public statements make clear that his only goal is political retribution at any cost.
The president's actions are a grave violation of our constitutional order and have drawn sharp criticism from members of both parties.
His decision to fire a United States attorney who refused to bring charges against me and replace them with someone who is blindly loyal not to the law, but to the president, is antithetical to the bedrock principles of our country.
steve bannon
The people rendered their verdict on all this law fair on last Tuesday, one week ago.
And like I have worked on for years and years and years, the whole country came together.
Working class people all over came together and they rejected what's going on in this court, what's going on with President Trump.
The law affair of Tish James and Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith and Merrick Garland has been rejected by a landslide by the American people.
So the one thing I have to say to Merrick Garland, Lisa Monaco, Jack Smith, Tish James, Alvin Bragg, you wait.
unidentified
The hunted are about to become the hunters.
steve bannon
Thank you very much.
The hunted have become the hunters.
Big Tish, baby, you have no earthy idea what's about to be dropped on your head.
And so Weissman and Stephanie Rule and Nicole Wallace, all you people whinging and whining, Glenn Thross over the New York Times.
Baby, when we roll, we roll hard.
She's a common crook.
Okay, and she tried to put Trump away for a couple of hundred years.
We bring in the great Joel Gilbert, and folks, just sit back, have a get yourself a big cup of Warpath coffee and enjoy this segment.
Joe, uh one thing I can tell you about Gilbert, when he gets on something, it's like a dog on a bone.
Okay.
He's so Joel, I'm gonna toss it to you.
You've got a great piece up in Gateway Pundit, the Jim Hoffed, the great Gateway Pundit.
But take it from the top, because they're all saying last night, oh, this we even know about this one.
This was nothing.
That's and they they're implying there's nothing else there, or we have no other case.
I say there's a superseding indictment coming uh with a whole lot more.
Walk us through it, sir.
joel gilbert
Okay, well, I can start walking you through by telling you that uh the Democrats uh threw up black prosecutors, Alvin Bragg, Fanny Willis, and Letitia James to go after Donald Trump on charges that they knew would not stick.
So they looked at these black prosecutors as cannon fodder.
They simply sacrificed them, knowing that they would probably go down for what they were doing.
Sure enough, Tish James probably should not have been charging Donald Trump with trumped up charges of mortgage fraud in New York, given the fact that New York is a public record state and that all of her mortgages for 43 years were online for myself or anybody else to pull up.
And what I found is a pattern of mortgage fraud going all the way back to 1983 when she was only 24 years old.
She purchased her first home with her father, claiming that her father was her husband.
They purchased it as husband and wife in order to help Letitia qualify for a mortgage that she was not entitled to.
Letitia continued this pattern of mortgage fraud with her building in uh Brooklyn.
She bought a four-story five-unit apartment building, and for 24 years she told the banks it was either four units or one unit, even though the certificate of occupancy for the building said it was five units.
Now, this is very significant because if you have four units or less, you get a residential mortgage rate, which is lower.
You also get almost no closing costs.
Five units or higher, like Letitia had, you get high interest rates and very high closing costs.
So Letitia gamed the system in New York.
She also didn't register for rent stabilization, which she was supposed to do every year.
And she simply had her building is a crime scene, and she defrauded and scammed banks for 24 years to save money she wasn't entitled to.
Meanwhile, she bought three homes in the state of Virginia where her mother was from.
Every one of those three homes, there's mortgage fraud.
She buys a foreclosure with her aunt, and then she doesn't appear on the deed, which is illegal.
She buys a house at Sterling Avenue in Norfolk, Virginia, and she explicitly says, I bought this for my niece's children to make us think that, oh, she's trying to help little kids.
Well, her niece's two children are adult convicted felons.
One of them is an absconder from justice with an arrest warrant out in North Carolina.
So Letitia bought the property specifically to harbor a fugitive.
Now on that property, uh, my colleague Sam Antar pointed out that Letitia claimed that would be her primary residence.
It was actually rejected by the bank nine times.
They would not approve the loan.
The tenth time, Letitia says that's going to be my primary residence.
It gets approved, and that was illegal because she got the mortgage and lower interest rates because she'd be the primary resident.
The indictment by uh Miss Halligan yesterday revolves around the third property on Perone Avenue.
And on that property, she took out a specialized loan that specifically said Letitia had to either live there or use it as a second residence.
She was not allowed to rent it out.
Sure enough, Letitia simply rented it out.
So that was really the opening shot because that's the smallest, it's bank fraud charges with 30 years in prison for bank fraud.
But I believe there's, and my sources tell me there's more indictments coming.
This is just the tip of the iceberg because the Sterling property in Virginia, she explicitly got rejected nine times before she said, okay, it'll be my primary residence.
Back in New York, it's a separate grand jury, separate jurisdiction, and it's 24 years of mortgage fraud.
The most recent was 2021 with a credit line mortgage from Citizens Bank.
She took out a 200,000 credit line loan from Citizens Bank in 2021, well within the statute of limitations, saying that it was a one-family dwelling, one family instead of five.
That was fraud.
steve bannon
And she did it again and again.
unidentified
She got a camp loan as well.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
We're gonna hold Joel Gilbert through the top of the 11 o'clock hour.
We're also gonna talk about we've got a lot going on with Marine Corps 250.
We're getting to that.
Kurt Mills is going to join us about the peace deal in the Middle East that President Trump should have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
But obviously he's not.
They're not gonna do that.
Uh what Joel Gilbert's telling you, what the mainstream media and Stephanie rule kind of um not your best moment.
You're you're you're uh you're you're an investment banker, you you your show revolves around getting to the numbers.
You should have Joel Gilbert on and let Joel Gilbert Tish James actively worked in every property she owned to defraud banks, okay?
Or defraud the government from the taxes they do.
This baby's big Tish going away for a long long time.
So they can cry and throw the toys out of the pram, but it's happening.
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