Oct. 3, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Erupting outside of a synagogue in northern England. | ||
| Police say at least two people were killed in a car ramming and stabbing attack in Manchester. | ||
| And authorities shot a third person believed to be the suspect. | ||
| NBC's Matt Bodner is in London now with more. | ||
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Matt, what's the latest? | |
| Manchester police have confirmed that the attacker has died from shots fired by the police when they responded to this attack earlier this morning. | ||
| We don't know too much more about the attacker at this time. | ||
| But Manchester police have actually just now started a press conference where we're learning a bit more about it. | ||
| They're saying that they have two uh additional people in custody without giving much more detail yet. | ||
| Uh but going back to the attack, video posted to social media, also verified by NBC News, showed police backing away from the suspect's body, and then cautioning people to move away. | ||
| An officer in that video can be heard saying, quote, he has a bomb. | ||
| Manchester police have not confirmed that there was an explosive device, but bomb disposal teams were on site working with quote suspicious items. | ||
| So we're still waiting for more details about today's attack, but it did begin this morning uh with a car uh uh being driven into the public. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Band. | |
| Thursday, two October year of our Lord, 2025. | ||
| Thanks for sticking around for the uh late afternoon, early evening edition of the war room. | ||
| I've got uh our my colleague Ben Harnwell uh from Rome, and we're also got Peter McIlvina. | ||
| I want to go, uh Peter, you've been, you know, we we stream you a couple times a week uh on your show, Heart uh Hearts of Oak. | ||
| Um it's and I've made this, and it's been a big deal, I guess, in the British media, that I believe our mother country, uh the United Kingdom, is is rapidly spinning to a civil war. | ||
| And that the political apparatus right now cannot stop it. | ||
| It's incapable of stopping it. | ||
| Uh and I keep saying the only person that could is possibly uh Nigel, who and Nigel has never been as hardcore about immigration, although he's made as as as we have in the war and we have in the Trump movement in the United States. | ||
| But even Nigel is coming our way, because now Nigel, for the first time, is talking about mass deportations. | ||
| Talk to me about Manchester, it's just the latest example. | ||
| But you've sent me a series of stories. | ||
| I mean, folks, I this thing and and the pushback of the English and British working class to me is just amazing. | ||
| I get the the St. George's flags, the pr the flag of England, the Union Jack. | ||
| You had the Tommy Robinson demonstration in the streets with two or three million people. | ||
| Uh so they they ain't going down without a fight. | ||
| They're not gonna go down without a fight. | ||
| And I think you can do this the easy way through politics and policy, which we always advocate for. | ||
| But I'm telling you, the English working class is not gonna just turn over their country and let a bunch of feckless uh uh spineless politicians in a in a corrupt media sell their country out, sir. | ||
| I I don't know what I can out to that, Steve. | ||
| I agree a hundred percent. | ||
| And we're in a weird situation in the UK. | ||
| I see bad smoking, but we're in the weird situation in the UK in that we are four years out from a general election. | ||
| We are stuck with a hard-left uh government, so this government in Keir Stormer, two tier care, and we have a concerted government that aren't applying any pressure at all. | ||
| Um Kemi Badnock is being uh utter disaster in terms of providing conservative pressure to Susha's government. | ||
| Then on the other side, you've got Nigel Farage applying huge pressure with reform UK with six members of Parliament out of six hundred and fifty. | ||
| Um the conservatives have got a hundred and whatever they've got. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| But it's Nigel Farage has applying the pressure. | ||
| Um and he is really hit his stride. | ||
| And I've got many issues with Nigel in terms of engaging on the Islamization of the UK, Islamic immigration, but he's hit his stride in terms of immigration, and he is taking it to the Labour Party. | ||
| And this week we've had the Labour Party conference, um, and he is hitting the the ball. | ||
| He is pushing the the government to readdress their understanding of mass illegal immigration and the impact it has on the UK without Nigel, we would not be having this conversation. | ||
| We have a government that is doing horrendously in the polls, and Nigel is fitting into that in providing the the commentary for the public. | ||
| And Steve, it's crazy. | ||
| If we had an election today in the UK, if we had an election today, Nigel Farage with Reform UK would go from six MPs to 315, I think, just six or eight seats short of a majority. | ||
| He has done a phenomenal job on engaging with the public. | ||
| He did it with Brexit with the Brexit vote. | ||
| He has done it at the moment with uh with British politics in terms of a parliamentary system. | ||
| And although he only has six MPs, he is hitting the ball so high in relation to the Conservative Party that are just part of the uni party. | ||
| So you've got that, and then of course, today you have, as you mentioned, that horrendous attack on a synagogue up in the northwest of England, up in Manchester, a big synagogue, five, seven hundred person synagogue. | ||
| It was full at the time, and you had an attacker that ran the synagogue and then went out seemingly with an explosive vest, wanting to blow up that synagogue. | ||
| The police came within seven minutes. | ||
| I've never known the police to come in such a quick time, but they did their job, fair dues to them. | ||
| They responded and took out the attacker, shot him. | ||
| Um he's been shot dead. | ||
| Um I understand the the rabbi of the synagogue had locked the doors to make sure they were protected, and on the day of Yom Kipper, the holiest day of the the Jewish calendar given to us in Leviticus in Juterony, where you actually um go to God in uh in repentance of your sins. | ||
| It is a a biblical festival, and therefore, as as a Christian, I look back and respect that huge honor to the Jewish community. | ||
| Um, and in the Jewish community, we have what 300 odd thousand Jews in the UK. | ||
| We have 10 to 15 times that in terms of the Islamic community, and we have seen the Jewish community pushed out of many traditional areas, especially in North London, they used to be traditionally Jewish and now it become Islamic. | ||
| And yeah, uh, we are told no, maybe 20 minutes ago that the I get I get I gave this I I gave the speech at National Conservative Convention, and I said, hey, ripping on Bibi. | ||
| I said the the problem the the central problem to Israel and the Jewish people ain't coming from Tehran, okay? | ||
| It's coming from Sadiq Khan, what they've done to London, and New York City is gonna go that way. | ||
| Now, people say, well, the the Iran's funding it, yes, partly, but it's bigger than that. | ||
| And I'm telling you, New York City is going to be just like uh London. | ||
| I I know you got to bounce. | ||
| I want to go through two things. | ||
| Number one, can you even have the conversation? | ||
| What is it about these speech laws? | ||
| Every day I'm picking up I get because I get feeds from England, I'm seeing people arrested, uh, people with doors kicked down. | ||
| Is is can you even have this conversation? | ||
| Uh a war room heated conversation in the United Kingdom right now, or the speech laws so draconian that they're trying to suppress even the ability to deal with this Islamization and neo-Marxist crisis in British society. | ||
| Well, maybe I'm fully Steve, because I love warm. | ||
| I love being with you, and I'm happy to talk to the US audience about what we face in the UK. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| What we have in London is a example of what you could have in New York. | ||
| And I plead with the American audience. | ||
| I plead with the American voters to recognize that and make a stand in New York to make sure New York does not come London a stand. | ||
| That that's what I'll plead. | ||
| But also on the second part, we have a huge, huge attack on our free speech. | ||
| We don't have a first and second amendment. | ||
| We are here by the grace of God, not by our constitution. | ||
| We don't have any rights, and we have 30 people a day being arrested. | ||
| That was think the New York Times posted that back in August. | ||
| It seems to be correct. | ||
| We have people thrown in jail for hate crimes online for posting a post online. | ||
| They're put in jail within hours, and yet we have mass rapists going around the UK that supposedly 10 years later, the British government get into gear and engage in that. | ||
| So we have online posts been much more hateful, much more concerned to UK cohesion over above burglaries, rapes, the grooming gangs, everything else happening the other side. | ||
| And somehow we need a realignment to politics engaged with what concerns the people on the streets. | ||
| And I hope and pray you have the same conversation in the US and really I hope you do not have the individual that at the moment is polling to be top. | ||
| There is always a hope, there's always change, there's always a chance to turn the tide. | ||
| And if only voters get out and engage, then you can uh hold yourself back from that horrendous opportunity. | ||
| What is this thing about the digital? | ||
| I'm seeing now things, and it's not that I watch a lot of TikTok, but they're I'm seeing these amazing spots made on this what digital Brit card that you it and I see Boris Johnson, I'm not gonna get it. | ||
| Are they actually trying to for is the government trying to force that everybody will have a digital ID in the United Kingdom? | ||
| They are, and this is part of Tony Blair's legacy. | ||
| My understanding is that Tony Blair's son actually is key to the organization that wants to roll that out. | ||
| And the British government have said that this is simply um as an ID. | ||
| We have an ID. | ||
| We have a you you get a driving license, you get a provisional drive license. | ||
| I think it costs like 10 pounds. | ||
| You can get that. | ||
| The barrier is so low, and yet they want to roll out a digital ID. | ||
| And of course, the alarm bells start to ring. | ||
| What does this mean? | ||
| Is this uh uh a CCP credit score? | ||
| Is this 15 minute cities? | ||
| Is this controlling what we spend our money on? | ||
| Is this part of the climate alarmism? | ||
| Where does this come from? | ||
| It doesn't make any sense because you can prove who you are with an ID, and we're told this will stop the boats coming over from France have just hit 35,000. | ||
| We will be at least 20% over what we were last year. | ||
| Supposedly having a digital ID will stop the um the the group the the gangs that are actually transporting people, the people traffickers. | ||
| I can't imagine people traffickers coming over and showing a digital ID and not stopping it. | ||
| It is a lie, and the people see through it, Steve. | ||
| Uh Peter, by the way, you mentioned uh what would the people in England tell the people of the United States when President Trump says, hey, the Board of Peace, I'm gonna be the chairman, but the viceroy is going to be Tony Blair. | ||
| What what advice were what our brothers and sisters in the United Kingdom warn us about the potential of the the the American Gaza plan with Tony Blair as the viceroy? | ||
| Wow, we're not cool, Steve. | ||
| Okay, in a minute or two. | ||
| That fills anyone in the UK with dread. | ||
| Tony Blair is an individual that is by and large hated by the British people, and to think that he will have a part to play in this new Gaza scheme, that really really worries me. | ||
| Um I just trust that President Trump has an idea that he has a plan for this, and I know Blair has been thrown into the mix. | ||
| We don't know exactly what part he will have to play. | ||
| He's got his fingers in so many pies, he's been able to raise huge amounts of money. | ||
| Um it worries me. | ||
| So please keep Tony Blair out of it, Steve. | ||
| Please. | ||
| He's on the payroll half of those guys in the Gulf Emirates. | ||
| Anyway, Peter, social media, how did you get your show? | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| We we put it up a couple of times a week. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| So Monday, Thursday, Saturday, 3 p.m. | ||
| Eastern. | ||
| Tonight we've got uh Ken Blackwell, senior fellow uh family research council. | ||
| Um and Monday we've got Julie Heiss, also Foundry Research Council, weirdly. | ||
| So um so much happening, and Ken joins us tonight, talk about the the shutdown, of course, but also family values and how that fits into the American dream and and what it means. | ||
| So at Hearts of Oak, UK on X at Hearts of Oak, everywhere else. | ||
| Well, I love it. | ||
| You get the best guess, it's just incredible. | ||
| Peter, I know you get a bounce. | ||
| Thank you so much for carving some time out of this evening. | ||
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Thanks, Davis. | |
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Well, I know I know we were set this up to do. | ||
| There's so much going on in order to start, but I gotta ask you President Trump. | ||
| When you're doing the can't the complexity of the Gaza situation, and you throw out Tony Blair's name, given that Tony Blair's on the payroll of everybody, how does that strike? | ||
| I know you had to deal with it decades ago. | ||
| How does that strike folks in the United Kingdom? | ||
| Do they take this as serious, or do they take this as it's somehow Tony Blair's in there with Cutter and others, and there's going to be some sort of big grift? | ||
| Steve, I always hate following Peter McLoveno on the show because he's so synthetic and so clear. | ||
| It always makes it makes me makes it difficult to trump whatever he's doing. | ||
| Look, but in answer to that question, you know, getting Tony Blair, who lied the country in to the Gulf War on the basis of sexed up, those were his words, sexed up uh intelligence, is rather like saying I've got a uh a house, a shelter for young women, um, and I need someone to look after it. | ||
| Who should I bring in? | ||
| I know, let's bring in Joe Biden. | ||
| You know, there can't be a worse person to come in uh with his history in the Middle East than Tony Blair. | ||
| Uh put that aside. | ||
| Put that aside because uh staying on the theme of the UK, uh, and what you were asking Peter Macrioveno about just now, about the ID cards. | ||
| Look, here's this I'm here in Italy, okay. | ||
| There've been there's been um a national identity card here, the Carta di Dentità, which you have to carry on you at all times whenever you leave your house. | ||
| Um and you also have to have what's called a codice fiscale, uh, and you cannot be employed legally in Italy without it. | ||
| Um and both of those things simply serve to add bureaucracy onto the ordinary regular tax paying um Italian or like me, permanent resident here. | ||
| But go out into the field, Steve, especially out into the south of Italy, they're full, they're chocker block full with illegals, and you say, Well, hang on, how does that happen? | ||
| I thought you need to have like the the official documents to be able to work in Italy. | ||
| Well, it's one thing to have the bureaucracy, and it's another thing to enforce it. | ||
| That my fear for the UK is this, just like in Italy, the cost and the punishment, the penalization of this bureaucracy will fall on the shoulders as it always does, on taxpayers, and those who are invisible to the system will be ignored. | ||
| Um and I know that for a fact, Steve, because it's the UK government who's responsible, a succession of UK governments, let's be fair, that is responsible for the third world illegal invasion in the first place, right? | ||
| They're the people who are letting this happen. | ||
| If I were dictator of the UK in 60 seconds, I would change it. | ||
| Instead of having boats full arriving at the UK and returning to France empty, I would have them returning coming to the UK empty and returning full. | ||
| It's easy to achieve if you have the political will. | ||
| This government doesn't have the political will because it's not interested in representing the British people, neither is the sham of the Tory party. | ||
| Hence uh that the fact that polls are saying that that Nigel Farage is going to be on about 350 uh MPs after the next election. | ||
| That's why, if all the government is interested in doing is producing these performative theatrical measures that aren't going to do anything to tackle the actual problem, I'm against it. | ||
| I'm absolutely against it. | ||
| Because I know as I say, the bureaucracy, the hassle, the inconvenience will fall on those who are who are have nothing to do with the problem at hand. | ||
| I'll add to that, Steve, as I pushed out on Getter yesterday. | ||
| What this government is also now doing is bringing out live facial cameras right across the UK. | ||
| This is real sort of 1984 stuff, sort of homing in and sort of zapping everyone as they're going about their daily business. | ||
| And now, of course, that's going to go into some database somewhere. | ||
| This is what why is this what I called on Getter the anatomy of a betrayal is this. | ||
| First, you fill the country with an invasion of third world illegal invasions. | ||
| Then you sit there, arms crossed, and watch the resulting um holocaust of crime, including violent crime, including sexual crimes against women and children, right? | ||
| And then you clamp down the thousand-year-old civil liberties against Britons in the UK, and finally you continue to do absolutely zero about the thing that caused the crime wave in the first place, which is the third world illegal invasion. | ||
| It's the anatomy of a betrayal. | ||
| So no, Steve, I'm not convinced. | ||
| And of course, I do have strong libertarian instincts anyway. | ||
| But I'm if I thought it it would do something to solve the underlying problem of the invasion, perhaps I would give it a second look. | ||
| But I can't because I know because I know it won't. | ||
| All they are interested in doing is performative theatrics in the hope that it will slate somewhat the opposition that they see building day by day in the UK right now. | ||
| Is the um is the do I overstate the case uh that uh because I really do I I love England and come from an Irishman that that's saying something. | ||
| Of course, I love uh our native Ireland, and I see the same, I see it following England so rapidly because of the globalists that have sold out the people. | ||
| But my fear it Ireland in this regard it's starting, but it's years behind. | ||
| But in England, uh I actually see it's some and someone who's been intimately involved in British politics and particularly the Brexit movement, supporting Nigel Farage and others of our colleagues over there, uh, and having Raheem and you as kind of uh co-host and collaborators and and sidekicks. | ||
| Do I overstate the case that England I think is is hurtling towards not sliding anymore, but hurtling towards a potential civil war, unless the political process actually kicks in and starts to take the corrective actions that you're talking about. | ||
| I think Nigel Farage is going to be the release on the pressure cooker that will stop that from happening. | ||
| Um but if it weren't for Nigel, yes, I think that's the the what that would definitely what is coming closer, sort of day by day, month by month, year by year. | ||
| There are two things here, Steve, right? | ||
| There's the there's the possibility of revolution and there's a possibility of civil war, and they are both responses to a particular set of circumstances that inside the system there's been a failure to acknowledge and deal with. | ||
| That's why people uh have defaulted to systematic reform outside. | ||
| Um I do think whilst it is absolutely a realistic possibility, I do think the the UK is heading more towards revolution rather than civil war. | ||
| Civil war is something I think is far more um close to the United States over the next 20 or so years, um, rather than say revolution. | ||
| I I and I as I say the the these are particular contexts to do with what is precisely wrong with the with the system, wrong with the political system, wrong with the ability to respond to people's needs. | ||
| But both of these things are ever present, not just in the UK, Steve, not just in in the United States, but right across the Western world. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| And I will say something uh about Nigel. | ||
| Nigel is definitely coming closer to our position here in the United States with the MAGA movement. | ||
| You know, Nigel for years did not um, it was only a couple of weeks ago. | ||
| I think it was um six weeks ago that Nigel for the first time started talking about mass deportations, mass deportations. | ||
| That had not been part of his, you know, he's much more, he's he's been adamant about warning about it and about solutions, but he hasn't gone to the solutions that ultimately, I mean, it's it's here. | ||
| It's what's happening in the United States is why President Trump has sent the um has sent the Secretary of War to Memphis, why he's sending uh federalized National Guard into Portland. | ||
| Uh we are now entering the phase of going to the mass deportations, and the pushback by the radicals in our country is over the top. | ||
| I mean, they are they are getting not just getting the way in law enforcement, they intend to harm law enforcement and to shut this down. | ||
| So, and and for us it's absolutely must happen. | ||
| And this is gonna get it's gonna get nasty because the radical democrats, the entire party is built on illegal immigration or or scamming the visa program. | ||
| That's 100%, that's what their party is. | ||
| Without that, that's why they could they fought so hard to have the census uh gun decked, which it was in 2020. | ||
| Without the illegal invasion, without the illegal aliens, without scammers off of the legal immigration process and legal immigration process that's totally out of control. | ||
| They don't exist. | ||
| They're the Whigs, and they know this. | ||
| This is why this whole government shutdown is about, they've made it about the funding of illegal aliens uh medical cost. | ||
| And we're just adamantly opposed. | ||
| It would just never happen. | ||
| It's nothing, it's not this is why there's no negotiation, nothing to negotiate, nothing to talk about. | ||
| Um, and so Nigel's coming our way. | ||
| Why don't you hang on, Ben? | ||
| We got so much more uh to go through. | ||
| Uh, and we're gonna get into it. | ||
| We got an amazing article in the Atlantic uh about uh about Vietnam. | ||
| Also, I want to talk to Ben when we do come back about an increasing dangerous situation in Ukraine. | ||
| Ukraine's a little out of the news, but there's so much going on. | ||
| Uh, as President Trump clearly is having frustration with why he can't get Putin to the table to actually make a deal, but now there's a I think a major escalation that's going on that people aren't quite uh aware of. | ||
| Uh gold at 3900. | ||
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| The peak the central banks look at gold as a hedge. | ||
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| It's the central banks purchasing with major financial institutions purchasing gold and making gold part of its asset class, which you never heard before. | ||
| You never heard about hedge funds buying gold. | ||
| Well, that's what's happening now. | ||
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| Ben, uh, I've got I've got two other things. | ||
| I want to get to Ukraine, and I gotta get to the Pope situation. | ||
| And then we're supposed to get to the Atlantic Article. | ||
| We may not have time, and we'll have to I want because I want to do a whole segment of that. | ||
| But you have some uh observations on what we just talked about first. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, you you mentioned that Nigel Farage is is has only recently swung round to the position, I think six or so weeks ago of the mass deportations. | ||
| Um look, I the reason for that is that effectively Nigel Farage started his political career, say 30 uh 20, 20, 30 years ago, where um where Margaret Thatcher left off. | ||
| Um and there's a strong core of thatcherism, I think, in a lot of what have uh Nigel's saying, and and the anti-immigration thing historically hasn't been part of that mix. | ||
| The reason that he's swung around um is not just because he's a populist, that that's part of it, it's because he knows where the British people is, and that the uni party comprised of the Tories and the Labour have an almost autistic indifference about where the the where where the where the uh where the British people are. | ||
| They see three million people coming out and marching behind Tommy Robinson carrying aloft photos and and pictures of Charlie Kirk chanting his name. | ||
| They see this, and the the only thing that they can do with the establishment is say, oh, look, these guys are all white supremacists, they're all thugs. | ||
| You look at the photos, you look at the footage, these are ordinary working families. | ||
| It might have been true, Steve, 20 years ago. | ||
| This kind of rally would have had the thugs, the skinheads, the football hooligans, what have you. | ||
| This is Middle England that's coming out now. | ||
| That is the transformation that has taken place in the face of the third world illegal invasion, and our political establishment hasn't been able to recognize the transformation that that has caused amongst the sentiment of the British people. | ||
| Nigel Farage has seen it. | ||
| He has noted it. | ||
| He has extremely sensitive political antennae, and that's why he's turning around and saying, Yep, mass deportations, it's the only thing that's going to work in the UK. | ||
| And that's the difference between him and and the uni party, the two wings of the uni party. | ||
| And that is why, Steve, to pick up the point that Peter Maciloveno was saying in the first half of the show, with only six members of parliament out of a parliament of 65 MPs. | ||
| Nigel Farage has more what he says and what he thinks has more dramatic impact on the political agenda. | ||
| I can just say right now, we're not going to get to the McNamur thing, which is monument. | ||
| We'll figure that out because we got to address that on uh MacNeur and Vietnam and the analogy they're making to the day. | ||
| Um how did it, and this is what shocks me, because I consider myself a student of uh British history and particularly the empire and and and and my love for the World Navy and for uh Admiral Nelson is really what got me into it. | ||
| Um I don't understand, you have to help me here. | ||
| How did our mother country, and if you study the American Revolution, to me, one of the most fascinating parts is the debates in England about the American? | ||
| It's nothing we're taught in American schools at all. | ||
| This was Great Britain's Vietnam. | ||
| You had Englishmen essentially saying at the beginning of an empire, which at the same time you were doing India, they were the two uh footings of what's going to be a massive empire run by Englishmen, and our guys opted out, and particularly opted out, which is not taught, I think, even in England enough, the monopolistic power of things like the Crown gave the the British East India Company. | ||
| You know, our guys, I say our revolutionary generation were one deal lawyers, right? | ||
| Real estate speculators like General Washington, or freebirders and smugglers like Hancock and Sam Adams, but they were entrepreneurs and they didn't want part of this, they wanted out. | ||
| But the debates in commons are absolutely with Edmund Burke and these guys are absolutely amazing. | ||
| How did this inst that institution, and even the debates in the 30s leading up to World War II and how the British comported itself with church owners, how did it deteriorate to a political class that is paralyzed? | ||
| The one thing you say about the Brits throughout their history, they ain't been paralyzed. | ||
| They built the greatest empire since the Roman Empire, before the American Empire, but they were never paralyzed. | ||
| Their political elite, your political elite are such second and third tier, they're so mediocre beyond mediocre compared to what you see in British arts with British industry, British finance. | ||
| And they're absolutely paralyzed by a media that obviously consistently lies to the American people, advice to the British people, stupidly, like BBC, the BBC stuff is ridiculous how dumb it is. | ||
| How have you had what used to be considered, I guess, the world's really leading democracy in a parliament that set the standard of which the Americans kind of used as a because remember the Senate's really the House of Lords and the House of Representatives, the House of Commons, close to the people every two years. | ||
| How do we get to a situation that your institutions are frozen by actions they've taken and they can't come, they can't get themselves out of it, sir. | ||
| Uh okay, let's look at the similarities between the US and the UK historically, the genius between the two systems was that we had in both countries, we had a political class that was motivated to an equal extent by cynicism and idealism. | ||
| Um, in both cases. | ||
| Um and now there's no idealism, it's just pure cynicism. | ||
| That that's part of the response. | ||
| Um another part of the response is the omnipresence of media that for for generations, for decades and generations, has formed both people's um brainwashed them with with propaganda. | ||
| Uh and that picks up directly on what you were just saying about the BBC. | ||
| Um had a tremendously corrosive effect on uh on the on the British people. | ||
| I can tell you, a tremendously corrosive effect, the BBC. | ||
| Um the other thing I would have to throw into the mix if we're talking about the deterioration into in the body politic of both countries, would be the widening of the suffrage of who can vote, the universal suffrage. | ||
| Um, everyone who is basically looking at this now and coming up with their with their own ideas of what precisely went wrong. | ||
| But I think that the the fundamental shtick, no, not the fundamental factor here in in the um degradation of our political life is that people have had a vote without having any valuable input into the system which they have now have a say in. | ||
| That's fundamentally the issue. | ||
| Look, the Americans from the Boston Tea Party onward had had had had this expression, no um taxation without representation. | ||
| I I just I didn't vote it. | ||
| I'd say no representation without taxation. | ||
| I would say, because the technology is now here, you know, with the Brit cut that we're gonna have, it'll make even easier. | ||
| The technology is here to know who are net contributors to the system and and who are not, who are next net recipients. | ||
| Perhaps after, if we're gonna if we're gonna go to a civil war and or revolution, and I think out of the ashes, when we're looking at what went wrong, what we could do better next time, perhaps not do this universal suffrage thing again, because all it does is it gives people who have no it no positive net contribution to the system and means to vote for themselves, | ||
| the wealth of their of their neighbors, but worse than that, it's nothing has exploded the national debt than the fiat press and and universal suffrage put together. | ||
| And these two things are absolutely both. | ||
| When we say when you say you when you say when you say universal suffrage, you're not talking about women voting, right? | ||
| You're not you're not going to uh manosphere army, correct? | ||
| Okay, you're talking about I don't want to say it's Mitt Romney, but this is something that this is something Mitt Romney brought up with the 47% that don't pay any federal tax. | ||
| You're saying that the the inclusion of people that are basically wards of the state, allow them to vote, you're gonna just get more broader uh services and payments to the wards of the state without the economic engine that can that can pay for that, correct? | ||
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| Um I mean I'd have put it in different words, but that is that is exactly the system. | ||
| That is exactly what you get. | ||
| Um and it's degrading the political, it's degrading the political system. | ||
| I t I t I told you, I told you Ben's a libertarian. | ||
| That's libertarian one over because it's great. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| I don't agree with it, but hang on. | ||
| I I you're you're one of the smartest guys to know. | ||
| I gotta do this because you and I have to address this together. | ||
| Uh we're now gonna pivot to our favorite topic, the Catholic Church. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play. | ||
| I tell you, Ben, it's hard to shock me. | ||
| It's as much as we've seen together and working together and then with Andrew and everything, it's hard to shock me. | ||
| But when I saw this first, I literally thought it was a Saturday night. | ||
| I thought it was a Saturday night live skit. | ||
| I had to be convinced after watching it half a dozen times that it actually took place. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| This is uh a couple days ago in the Vatican. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play this. | ||
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| Wow. | ||
| Lord of life, bless this water. | ||
| May it awaken our hearts, cleanse our indifference, soothe our grief, and renew our hope. | ||
| Through Christ our Lord. | ||
| You were listening in and didn't get to see. | ||
| You had you have uh the Pope go over to a uh iceberg, and a big huge block of ice that is melting with a bunch of people in this weird set, and uh he takes the time and he puts his head over it and he blesses it, then he comes back and he's gonna go to this essentially religious service. | ||
| Now they said this is the blessing of the waters, which is something we have done in traditional times of like the rivers and you know, these in these ceremonies to to thank God for the seasons and for the growing season, all that. | ||
| That's not what this was. | ||
| This was an absolute pagan ceremony. | ||
| And I hate to say that Stephen K. Bannon warned everybody, I'm the only person on earth that came out publicly beforehand and said Privost was going to be the Pope. | ||
| And I said exactly why Prevost is going to be the Pope. | ||
| He's actually more radical than Francis, but he's a pleasanter personality, he's much more articulate, he's a gentle guy, he's got the best optics, and the American donors who really drive who really put up all the money for the church, which is now broke, are gonna feel very comfortable because he's gonna have them, he's gonna give them the plaques that bless their marriage after 25 years, and he's gonna go to conferences, he's gonna. | ||
| This is a pagan ceremony. | ||
| If you're a Catholic, and I reason most of our audience is evangelical or Jewish or or maybe agnostics, there are lots of Catholics in the audience, but if you're a Catholic, you believe to the core of your being, he is the representative of Jesus Christ on earth in an unbroken chain that goes back for 2025 years. | ||
| And what happened right there is a pagan ceremony that talks about you know the climate change. | ||
| The climate change is just a pagan religion of Gaia, of Mother Earth being like a living being, right? | ||
| Like a living being that is to be worshipped. | ||
| And right there, you saw under the guise of climate change and global warming, the worship of Mother Nature. | ||
| That's a pagan ceremony. | ||
| Therefore, if you're the vicar of Christ and you engage in and lead a pagan ceremony, you lose the the the the uh the the uh stamp, right of being the vicar of Christ on earth. | ||
| Now, Ben Harnwell, where am I wrong in that? | ||
| You're not wrong in any place on that, Steve. | ||
| Let me zoom out a bit. | ||
| I know we've got I've only got a couple of minutes left now. | ||
| Let me zoom out a bit. | ||
| On a recent Wednesday evening show that that we do uh once a week with uh with Liz Yore and Frank Walker, we discussed uh the the fact that POTUS put out a statement to celebrate with Christians, effectively Catholics, because it's this is a Catholic thing, the feast day of Saint Michael the Archangel. | ||
| Um there's nothing more Catholic really than doing that. | ||
| I'm praying to St. Michael the Archangel as a protection against Satan. | ||
| And I made the suggestion on our Wednesday show that really what you're seeing here, because only POTUS could really only President Trump could really get away with this. | ||
| Um he's he's at the apex now, the political inspiration for evangelicals, but also for traditional Catholics together, one and the same person, who straddles both. | ||
| Um, and he can really be the bridge. | ||
| And I I suggested that the Holy Spirit might be using President Trump as the bridge between traditional Catholics and conservative evangelicals, and I think that's a beautiful thing. | ||
| And I pointed out as well that Charlie Kirk was carrying a medallion to St. Michael the Archangel when he was shot. | ||
| Split screen. | ||
| So that's that's what the Holy Spirit is doing via the American president. | ||
| The successor to St. Peter, okay, an old expression that the Catholics used to use, the bark of St. Peter, to refer to that as the Catholic Church. | ||
| That is to say the fisherman's boat belonging to Peter, in which Christ came in and preached from. | ||
| The bark of St. Peter has effectively hit an iceberg. | ||
| That is my metaphor from that screen. | ||
| That is the bark of St. Peter, like the Titanic bang into this iceberg. | ||
| Let me be clear, Steve, about what I'm talking about here. | ||
| Like inverted commerce, Pope Leo has just put up a giant middle finger. | ||
| And I'm sorry to be so graphic about this. | ||
| He's put a giant middle finger right in the face of traditional Catholics and conservative evangelicals. | ||
| This is scandalizing also Christians outside of the Catholic communion. | ||
| Um, and I'm very glad he has done this, right? | ||
| Because Steve, you this show the war room, Frank Walker, Canon 212, Chris Jackson, like we are very, very few indeed, and you and you are absolutely correct that that you were the only guy in media coming out saying warning about the election of uh of Cardinal Prevost, right? | ||
| We have been very few indeed over the last four months warning about this papacy in the face of trad inc that has been grifting off the oh look, he had the red mozzetta when he came out on the logger. | ||
| Let's give, let's give Leo some time, right? | ||
| We have been proved right. | ||
| It pains me to say this, it pains me to say uh the that that what what the so-called Pope is doing is literally scandalous. | ||
| But you know, where where where man sins, God can bring about a greater good. | ||
| The greater good will be this. | ||
| Faithful Catholics, do not give this hierarchy your docile obedience. | ||
| What we must do, and I say this again and again and again on the show. | ||
| What we must do as Catholics is take the running of our church out of the hands of these corrupt atheists, these corrupt pagan atheist communists, and reset the Catholic Church on the path according to Jesus Christ. | ||
| And if if you if you if you don't get that message after watching this video, folks, then I will pray for you that you find the courage because that will happen, and we have to make it happen. | ||
| Ben, uh, social media, uh, very profound. | ||
| Where do people go to uh to follow you? | ||
| The shows you do now and the uh and all the great commentary you put up. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| On Get As my social media platform of choice, tap in my surname, Hanwell. | ||
| And if you think, folks, that you've heard provocations here on the show, just scroll the top of my feed. | ||
| And we gotta get we gotta have to have you on you and I have to discuss Ukraine. | ||
| Uh very serious situation there as we slide into the kinetic part of the third world war. | ||
| Ben, thank you so much. | ||
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