Oct. 2, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| They're controlling the message though? | ||
| So far they have been. | ||
| They have been, they've used the bully pulpit of the White House, the president himself. | ||
| You know, I was I was told by White House advisors yesterday that a clue as to how they're feeling about things, they they they feel like they're winning the messaging argument is the fact that J.D. Vance showed up in the White House briefing room yesterday. | ||
| The first time he's done that, sort of a swaggering appearance suggesting Democrats, Democrats, Democrats are the ones to blame. | ||
| He didn't stick to the facts all the time in that appearance, but that's the messaging. | ||
| And Democrats are still trying to uh they're on their back heels, the White House feels. | ||
| Donald Trump is governing like the dictator of America, right? | ||
| He he promised to be a dictator on day one, his words. | ||
| He's compared himself to America's king, even to the Pope. | ||
| The goal of the second term, quite clearly, and it's not hiding this, is to assert complete control over every aspect of the federal government. | ||
| He wants to directly control who gets fired and hired across the entire government and even civil society, from Fed directors to talk show hosts. | ||
| He wants to directly control who gets indicted. | ||
| Most recently with the ridiculous prosecution of James Comey. | ||
| He says, right now, the position of the Trump administration and Donald Trump is that he by himself unilaterally can raise taxes on the American people by a trillion dollars entirely by exit executive fiat. | ||
| Just by being like, yeah, taxes up. | ||
| He says he can rescind or reallocate any congressionally appropriated funds, basically at any time, entirely by executive fiat. | ||
| Oh, there's a bill to spend stuff there? | ||
| No, we're not gonna do it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But think about that. | ||
| But now it's the Democrats who are in the driver's seat when it comes to shutting down the government. | ||
| That is a pretty tough sell. | ||
| Especially considering Trump is using the shutdown to drum roll, govern like a king. | ||
| In the first Trump term, um, you know, the I think Donald Trump's been unstable and and to minus right, unhinged uh for a long time. | ||
| But in the first Trump term, there were people who, and we heard reports of this, people who kind of made a pact to say, look, none of us are gonna let this guy go unsupervised. | ||
| Um it's a dangerous world. | ||
| Uh we can't, you know, uh afford uh the kind of thing that could happen if he flies off the handle and there's nobody there to stop him. | ||
| Um the people around him now don't care. | ||
| They're either true believers who think that Donald Trump is, you know, on some kind of mission to save America from its own citizens, um, or they're opportunists. | ||
| Um, you know, just soulless opportunists who just don't care. | ||
| And that is really um the scariest part of all of it, because you know, the two things, when I I as I watched that meeting, I had to think that there were people sitting there saying, at this moment, and by the way, right now at this moment, Nicole, as we speak, if the president is doing what he's supposed to be doing, he's carrying a little card about the size of a playing card that carries the codes to 1600 strategic nuclear weapons. | ||
| The president in the next 20 minutes could kill hundreds of millions of people if he if nobody could stop him. | ||
| And we never had to worry much about that um until, you know, he started talking about the N-word and moving submarines around and things that I don't think he really understands. | ||
| But the other is that when he says to these generals and admirals, the enemy from within, he he may think that's a great rally speech, you know, at some at some maggot gathering, but to those generals and admirals, what he's saying is your fellow citizens, the people you are swarmed to defend and protect. | ||
| And I think he just doesn't understand that. | ||
| We're also seeing here Russ Vogt and others in the West Wing potentially seizing this opportunity to s to finish the mission that Doge began to really clear out what they perceive to be these Democrat deep state loyalists, that this is the moment to gut the government and to keep putting their people in there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I think that uh it there's no question that health care is a powerful Democratic argument. | ||
| It was gonna be a powerful Democratic argument regardless of whether the shutdown took place or not, right? | ||
| There were the cuts that had taken place to Medicaid, the cuts that the the that the Trump budget put into place were gonna happen, regardless. | ||
| The shutdown is is the Democrats have trying to tie the shutdown to their demands on health care. | ||
| That may be a good strategy in the long run. | ||
| It is certainly the case that health care is a good issue. | ||
| At the moment, though, right now, what it looks like in the the these messaging wars, as you just heard Hakeem Jeffries right there. | ||
| He was talking about green energy. | ||
| He was talking about the Trump administration being bad for inflation. | ||
| He was talking about the Trump administration being job killing. | ||
| All of those things I think are true. | ||
| But when you see that bite, it's not the kind of clarity and the kind of focus that you might want in us in a situation like this, which is really what Republicans do have right now, which is clarity and focus. | ||
| Democrats did this, and we now have to clear out the dead wood. | ||
| I don't think that firing people is gonna be super popular, but right now it's not obvious that Democrats have uh I heard Jake Alclos just now on who's who I admire and think it's really great, but he was on way too early this morning talking about corruption. | ||
| Another good democratic message, but not a message around this around this shutdown that necessarily has the kind of connection to it, the clarity and focus that you might want from Democrats. | ||
| Yeah, how does firing people or mass firings help get essential services to the people? | ||
| I mean, it the math doesn't, I don't understand that. | ||
| It's a it's a very good question, Mika. | ||
| And and and frankly, to me, the one thing that I you know do you were talking about this on the show yesterday a fair amount. | ||
| The Republicans were not in Washington yesterday to vote, right? | ||
| How is that not the central one of the central messaging points of Democrats? | ||
| Just to basically say, where are the Republicans? | ||
| How can we be responsible for this government shutdown when there are no Republicans in town to vote on this question? | ||
| I would have thought you would have heard that all day long yesterday, and I know it was pointed out by some Democrats here and there, but again, focus and clarity are key if you're gonna win this battle. | ||
| It isn't a small thing, just to be clear. | ||
| Who has the appropriating power? | ||
| The power to tax and to spend isn't some like weird academic quibbling point. | ||
| It might be the electorate, but like it's sincerely foundational to the constitutional structure of the country. | ||
| And I guess my feeling is they could if the shutdown isn't the place to resolve it, I guess we're not resolving it. | ||
| I guess we have a new form of government, which does seem not great to me. | ||
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I think that they could include language in a bipartisan way, and I've called for them to do this. | |
| That clarifies that you cannot do what was called a pocket rescission, which is basically just run out the clock on spending at the end of the end of the fiscal year and say, sorry, we can't spend this money. | ||
| I think you could get that through in a bipartisan way. | ||
| Um, some of these other things, I do think they have actual legal authority. | ||
| He has legal authority to fire lots of people right now. | ||
| That's not violating the law. | ||
| He can do those things, whether you think it's good or bad. | ||
| Um, I just don't think I've never seen a government shutdown achieve a policy outcome, and I certainly don't think it's gonna change Donald Trump's behavior either. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Thursday, two October in the year of our Lord uh 2025. | ||
| It is one year uh ago. | ||
| I guess it's tomorrow technically, but I think this is the 365th day of Tina Peters uh as a political prisoner out in Colorado. | ||
| And uh for everything else we're doing is still unacceptable. | ||
| We have a gold star mother that is being held by uh Jared Polis, uh, the buddy of uh Cox, the governor, the disgraceful governor of Utah. | ||
| Um we'll get more of that um a brother Andy Biggs is gonna be with us, Congressman Biggs. | ||
| They continued the tour, uh, the Charlie Kirk tour in Utah and Andy Biggs, so I'll give us a uh update on that later in the show. | ||
| Right there, and the president just put out if if Cameron, by the way, spectacular cold open. | ||
| Curated from a total meltdown yesterday, as we told you. | ||
| Clarity and focus. | ||
| The Democrats have a YouTube channel, okay. | ||
| Keem Jeffries had a YouTube channel that they were gonna put up 24 hours to try to compete with you know, Rev and Real America's Voice Rev in War Room as we were streaming service. | ||
| So they're gonna put up a YouTube, they got a YouTube channel, Keem Jeffries. | ||
| They're gonna go, they're gonna stream to counter us. | ||
| They're gonna stream their uh 24 hours. | ||
| There were times when there were a hundred folks watching it. | ||
| It was an absolute abomination. | ||
| Number one, they don't have a message. | ||
| And this is why, let's go back to the strategy. | ||
| Maximalist, maximize everything we're doing, take it to the absolute limit. | ||
| Number one. | ||
| Uh number two is to uh is to make sure we do it with a sense of urgency, urgency, today, today, today, action, action, action. | ||
| And of course, uh number three, seize the institutions. | ||
| Brendan Buck, right there, the old comms director for Paul Ryan is absolutely incorrect. | ||
| We can do you can't block the pocket rescissions, and you can't block the rescissions, and you can't block the impounds. | ||
| This is all a fight, as we told you about, folks, about the Article II powers of the President of the United States, and yes, he is maximalizing it. | ||
| As uh we should have defined this, uh, we should have had this argument years ago. | ||
| We're having it now. | ||
| And that's why this uh shutdown uh is such a winner for us on many different aspects. | ||
| Remember, in 2013 and 2018, we had huge wins in the following cycles. | ||
| We had huge wins in the following cycles. | ||
| I'll get in the Grasse is going to be with us to go through the uh redistricting. | ||
| Matt Bowl's gonna join us, uh, so we're pre-packed today. | ||
| In fact, we're very packed. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro from the White House. | ||
| I want to start uh with one of my favorites, uh Dr. Gina Loudon. | ||
| Gina, this is a story, and I I use this as an example of every day President Trump is flooding the zone with actions and activities that would be in a normal time would take up two or three days of a news cycle. | ||
| In this time, it barely gets a mention because there's so much the scale of what he's doing things at. | ||
| Not just the the scope of it, but the scale of it is so huge. | ||
| And this is called flooding the zone, and you can tell he's broken, he's broken the media. | ||
| On MSMEC, they're just in the mumble tank all day long. | ||
| They don't even know how to comprehend what's happening. | ||
| And that's why their numbers are imploding. | ||
| CNN and MSMEC's numbers are imploding. | ||
| Why people on the left can't watch it? | ||
| Because it's just a confusing morass of just word salads because they can't get a coherent plan, a narrative plan to counter this. | ||
| I want to talk about this. | ||
| People warned about this. | ||
| This Quiet Skies program. | ||
| People warned about this for years as being a potential uh issue with civil liberties, and it was turned on MAGA, big league during the illegitimate Biden regime, uh, for people like Tulsi Gabbard yourself. | ||
| Tell people what the program was, how they turned it to basically accuse you guys implicitly of being terrorist, ma'am. | ||
| Yeah, it's almost unbelievable. | ||
| When I when I used to whisper this story, I wasn't proud of what happened to me at all. | ||
| I was terrified. | ||
| I lived in terror every single day, afraid that Jackbooted thugs were gonna knock down my door like they did to so many and arrest me because on January 7th, Steve, I got on a plane a day after January 6th. | ||
| On January 6th, I simply spoke at uh a pre-rally event uh with a lot of other patriots uh that we all know and love. | ||
| And uh January 7th, I got on a plane and uh was told that I needed to get off of the plane, or that I would be arrested by federal agents who would board the plane, clear the plane, and take me into custody. | ||
| Then I was followed to the ladies' room, Steve, by a TSA agent, I believe, a woman, uh, who continued to harass me, mock me, record me in the ladies' room, and tell me that I was going to uh she was going to post it on her Facebook page. | ||
| You can't make this stuff up. | ||
| She literally said that to me. | ||
| Um, and uh, and then I was told that I could never ever in my lifetime be back on federal aviation property and that I was on the terror watch list. | ||
| Uh and I thought, remember, this is before January 6th, Steve. | ||
| So I wasn't used to this level of infringement on my. | ||
| I thought I was either going crazy or this wasn't really happening, or there was some massive mistake. | ||
| But there was no mistake. | ||
| The Boston Globe reports, Steve, that 40 to 50 private citizens were added to this list every single day, every single day. | ||
| Uh there, the internal TSA records blacked out the actual numbers, but the estimation is around 5,000 people that were consistently surveilled. | ||
| And remember, Steve, these were people who never were ever convicted of any kind of a crime or even charged with any kind of a crime, myself included, wasn't charged for anything, didn't go in the Capitol, didn't do anything else. | ||
| Tulsi Gabbard is one of them. | ||
| But American citizens, the average American citizen who just maybe got a flight to DC that day or something, they were surveilled the entire time. | ||
| The director of the TSA at the time was David Pekoski. | ||
| I think we should know that name. | ||
| And uh and here you go, Steve. | ||
| And now they want to talk all the time about Donald Trump weaponizing the government and his or his position, but not against everyday citizens. | ||
| He's weaponizing his administration against criminals, and that is a big difference there. | ||
| Dr. Gina, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're gonna hold it to the break. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro is gonna join us uh from the White House. | ||
| Interesting segue because Dr. uh Navarro was uh they tried to humiliate him in Reagan National Airport, put shackles on Dr. Peter Navarro, one of the most significant political figures in the last 15 years. | ||
| And a close advisor to President Trump. | ||
| In his first campaign, first White House, second campaign, third campaign, White House Now. | ||
| One of the most significant uh political figures in modern American political history. | ||
| Shackled by the FBI. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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| I think if everything plays out, we get a huge announcement by Sunday, if it works out throughout the day, and we'll make this announcement. | ||
| About the war room and what's gonna happen on Sunday. | ||
| Like I said, if it all works out, maybe later in the program or later today in the five o'clock show. | ||
| Um Dr. Gina, just for I just want to make sure when you said seventh, you spoke in front of the Willard Hotel at a big rally that was put on on the evening of the fifth, correct? | ||
| Because they had they were gonna have speakers, they were gonna have speakers with the president of six. | ||
| They decided no, we just want the president and Rudy, a couple of other people, and keep it tight, and the president wanted uh to have more time. | ||
| Uh then uh you were just a regular citizen like everybody on the on the sixth, and then you try to go get on a plane and uh and they basically walk in the plane and tell you if you don't clear the plane, they're gonna clear the plane and uh taking you off the plane. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And that's on the uh that's on the uh the seventh, correct, the day after. | ||
| And arrested. | ||
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When I asked why, um and what was and when I asked, what was the charge? | |
| That's what I asked. | ||
| And they said this. | ||
| I don't know what you mean, Steve. | ||
| What when I asked what I what I did wrong, uh they they wouldn't tell me, and they said this is me resisting Authority and that I was I was looking at an arrest if I continued. | ||
| So I just shut up and got off the plane, went to the bathroom to call my husband. | ||
| They followed me into the bathroom and continued to harass me and tell me that I was uh a known or suspected terrorist. | ||
| And I said, there's some mistake. | ||
| I mean, like any American would say, there's some mistake. | ||
| Um, but uh indeed there wasn't a mistake. | ||
| And and Steve, to clarify, this was before all of the infringements on our liberty that we became so accustomed to. | ||
| Uh, you know, this was before the January 7th arrests, right? | ||
| So I had no orientation for what was happening to me. | ||
| I I I thought there was a mistake, and I thought I would get it sorted out and everything would be okay, but it wasn't. | ||
| It took Kevin McCarthy actually got involved in your situation and helped get you off the list, correct? | ||
| Or what we perceived was off the list before President Trump shut it down. | ||
| Yes, but yes, but it took years, and it took lots of phone calls with lawyers and things, and uh a lot of sleepless nights and a lot of security for my children and all the rest of it, because I didn't know from day to day which night they were gonna knock on my door like they did on so many other great American patriots. | ||
| Dr. Gina, social media, where do people follow you? | ||
| At real Dr. Gina. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Dr. Gina, I can tell you you're a patriot and a hero. | ||
| That's real uh you're a patriot and a hero. | ||
| That's why they came after you. | ||
| So keep fighting. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Well, the real heroes are the ones who stood even after they were arrested, like your next guest and you, so thank you, man. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Every morning before the war room, you get Dr. Gina and the team at uh American Sunrise for a couple hours. | ||
| Great show. | ||
| Great way to start the day, particularly with Dr. Gina's bubbly sunny personality, which you don't get here in the war room unless I got Dr. Peter Navarro, my brother. | ||
| So, Navarro, I'm gonna do this in reverse because I had you on here about the shutdown and all that, but I gotta, since this is about the quiet skies and that finally Trump shut it down. | ||
| And the reason I started like that is President Trump, you guys are working on things at such scope and scale and urgency that there's a dozen things every day that President Trump's doing that would, in the old days, drive a news cycle, and you don't even hear about it. | ||
| When is this quiet skies? | ||
| But with Dr. Gina, they they they jerked her off a plane, said they were going to arrest her if she didn't get off, and then followed her around and threatened her with arrest at Reagan National, just like they they picked this, they picked these spots to humiliate you because they understand it's one of the busiest airports in the world of prominent people, right? | ||
| This is why they came in. | ||
| You are one of the most important figures for what you've done for the American people under President Trump, really working with President Trump for 10 years to do more for working men and women in this country than any other single individual in this country except for Donald Trump, you, Dr. Peter Navar. | ||
| Okay, you've dedicated your life to this. | ||
| They dragged you off like a common, like a murderer or terrorist and shackled you in the air, it shackled you in front of everybody to humiliate you and break you, did they not, sir? | ||
| It's exactly what what they did, Steve. | ||
| Uh we found a new bombshell last week that kind of tells you exactly what was going on with Dr. Gina with me and others. | ||
| I think you've seen this, Steve. | ||
| Cash Patel found in one of those burn bags an after-action memo, they call it, which reveals that there were over 200 FBI agents deployed to J6 that day. | ||
| 199 of them didn't want to be there because they weren't adequately trained for the job. | ||
| They were put at great risk. | ||
| And in the after-action report, what's so fascinating is that they uniformly said that the Washington uh office of the FBI uh had become just woke partisan bias. | ||
| One of the agents contrasted the stand-down nature of what happened in in Portland with Antifa and BLM and all that, and they're not touched, they were told to stand down on that, versus what happened on J6. | ||
| And it speaks to what was going on with Dr. Gina and I because it was the mindset. | ||
| I mean, I mean, think about this, Steve. | ||
| It's like Mr. Comey just gets indicted for two felonies, ten years possible in prison, right? | ||
| What is he gonna do? | ||
| He gets to go what's called self-surrender. | ||
| He's gonna just report without the handcuffs, without the leg irons. | ||
| Uh and and it's gonna be him sitting there doing his thing. | ||
| Whereas with me, a misdemeanor, much less possible prison time. | ||
| They sent five armed FBI agents out to grab me in a gangway. | ||
| And actually, next week there's gonna be some blockbuster news. | ||
| I don't know exactly what it is, but I've been told there's more that's gonna be revealed about that leg irons arrest. | ||
| Uh and this is the world we live in, Steve. | ||
| And you and I uh went to prison. | ||
| Well, hang on. | ||
| Jeff Clark, hang on. | ||
| Don Eastman losing their bar cards. | ||
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| It's the world we lived in until President Trump said, no, I'm coming back because I gotta set I gotta sort this mess out, and we're gonna sort it out. | ||
| And that's why I had Gino on. | ||
| Your guys are doing 20 things every day to sort this mess out that the media we came and curated because too much of these uh of the scale that you guys are doing, rewiring the world's economy, bringing jobs back here, right? | ||
| Uh changing the whole geopolitical order. | ||
| The uh shutting, you know, now gonna deconstruct the administrative state, which I'll get to in a second. | ||
| The scale and the scope of what the Trump administration is doing is so huge and with such urgency that that 20 things that would drive a news cycle for days in the old days, don't even get a mention. | ||
| And this is why, and that so it was the world we lived in, and it was a world that was gonna get more oppressive, more oppressive, until President Trump came back, and I just hope we start getting the indictments. | ||
| I know your press for time is a beautiful day at the White House. | ||
| By the way, this is this Dr. Navarro, this is this is the Bannon thing where things have, you know, in days things happen that are years worth. | ||
| And that's what happens here. | ||
| I mean, they pace in the first eight months of this administration. | ||
| We're getting more done in eight months uh than presidents get sometimes in eight years. | ||
| Uh I I would say every time in eight years. | ||
| This is truly remarkable. | ||
| Totally restructuring even the international trade system, which is amazing. | ||
| Totally restructuring this illegal immigration, getting to the heart of this weaponized law fair against uh the whole people of America, really. | ||
| So it is an honor and a pleasure uh uh to be here and talking about this, Steve. | ||
| And in the midst of this government shutdown, I would be remiss not to point out do we have time? | ||
| Let's be very careful here what's going on. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead. | ||
| The Democrats are trying to make this about health care. | ||
| It's about health care for illegal aliens. | ||
| And this is just gonna be another example where the Democrats are totally out of touch with the American people. | ||
| I mean, it's like over 80%, maybe higher of the Arab people don't think illegal aliens should get health care, particularly when Americans are struggling for that. | ||
| But McLaughlin came out with a very interesting poll yesterday, which basically says we are now a nation uh that has bifurcated clearly in the media. | ||
| You know, if you you're listening to CNN, Bloomberg, MSNBC, CNBC, you're getting the message that this is about health care. | ||
| Okay, that's what they're forced feeding when the facts are that this is about health care for illegal aliens, 200 billion dollars, Steve. | ||
| 200 billion dollars. | ||
| These Democrats want, and people kind of scratch their heads. | ||
| It's like the 80% of the American people don't want that. | ||
| But the problem is you have concentrations of of progressive sentiment in certain states like California. | ||
| It's 27% people foreign-born, 55% uh Latino and Asian, and that's a different world than the rest of the country. | ||
| So you get different points of view clashing here, but the lie's gotta stop, Steve. | ||
| You gotta get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Hey, Doc. | ||
| Doc Navarre, hang on for one second. | ||
| I know you got to go back to work over at the EOB, but just hang on for a second. | ||
| I just want to hold you for a minute or two on the other side. | ||
| The select committee on the CCP is doing amazing work. | ||
| Another underappreciated, underreported story next in the War Room. | ||
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| Here's your host, Stephen K. Dr. Navarre had to bounce. | ||
| They had to get he had to get called into a meeting over there. | ||
| Um, what you expect? | ||
| I mean, this guy, you know, I've known Peter for now years and years and years and years and years. | ||
| He's a seven-day-a-week guy. | ||
| I think in the first term, I'm not sure he took a day off. | ||
| I think he worked all four years, seven days a week. | ||
| He's an extraordinary individual. | ||
| Like I said, one of the most important individuals in the country, he's been President Trump's wingman on manufacturing, bring it all, you know, bringing jobs back, uh taking on China, the CCP, and knowing that for a misdemeanor, for a misdemeanor, knowing that they went to Reagan Airport, dragged him off a plane, and shackled him. | ||
| When I say shackled, I mean around the way shackles and the leg irons in front of the world to humiliate and break him, and they didn't. | ||
| They sent him to prison to break him. | ||
| They didn't. | ||
| That's what you have to read the get the book. | ||
| He went to prison because you don't have to. | ||
| And it's very powerful. | ||
| And you better read it because I'm telling you, and this is why I got the grass up here in the second hour. | ||
| We don't get these redistricting done. | ||
| If you don't think they're not coming for you, not coming for you, you're a dead wrong. | ||
| Hakeem Jeffrey said it flat out. | ||
| First thing they're going to do, and Johnson speaker finally agreed with us yesterday. | ||
| He came out and said, Hey, first thing they're going to do, if they're to win the house, if they win the house, is impeach Donald Trump. | ||
| And the whole thing's going to change. | ||
| The whole Trump revolution will grind to a halt. | ||
| That's where these midterms couldn't be, couldn't be more important. | ||
| Go get Navarro's book. | ||
| Do not think this game is over. | ||
| There's a lot of folks I know in the MAGA movement just leaning on their rakes saying, hey, Trump's doing everything. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| It's unbelievable what's happening. | ||
| But we got to make it. | ||
| That's why I keep saying seize the institutions. | ||
| We have to make this permanent. | ||
| So it cannot be reversed. | ||
| And that's why what Russ vote? | ||
| I'm so glad the president put out uh the true socialist morning on Project 2025, the great project. | ||
| He said the Project 2025 fame. | ||
| Russ Folk, he's one of the architects. | ||
| And we're going to get in some serious deconstruction of the administrative state, I think, starting this afternoon with Russ Vogt. | ||
| Congressman Molinar joins us. | ||
| He's the chairman of the Select Committee on China. | ||
| And I've got to say something, Congressman. | ||
| Of everything going on, the work you and your committee are doing is among, if not the most important work that is happening on Capitol Hill right now. | ||
| It's serious, it's detailed. | ||
| And you you are properly addressing the existent, the external existential threat, and that quite frankly, major league internal to the American people, and that's the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| First off, talk to us about your committee. | ||
| We want this hopefully to be a series of times we have you on here to talk about the great work. | ||
| But the select committee, what is it? | ||
| How's it made up? | ||
| And what is your role? | ||
| Well, first of all, thank you for having me, Steve. | ||
| And as you point out, I chair the select committee on our strategic competition with the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| And this is a focus on our relationship with China. | ||
| It covers our national security, our economic relationship, human rights abuses, uh, the entire uh framework of this relationship. | ||
| You know, China has a history of 4,000 years, but the Chinese Communist Party is uh is a threat, you know, around the world and even on our shores. | ||
| And so we need to make sure that we are prepared with our national defense. | ||
| Also, uh we are in a strong economic competition. | ||
| I commend President Trump for his leadership in this area, but we have a lot at stake, and that's why our focus is entirely on this relationship with the Chinese. | ||
| Why have we gotten into a situation where we helped finance them? | ||
| We gave them World Trade Organization authorization, most favored nation. | ||
| They still borrow from the World Bank as a third world nation. | ||
| How did we turn every institution in the West in the free market capitalist West into a situation to assist them on their growth when the CCP is, and this is actually without argument, is more murderous than the Nazis, the fascists, Imperial Japan, the Bolsheviks, the Soviets, roll them all up. | ||
| These people have killed documented have killed hundreds of millions of Lao Baijing of the owned Chinese. | ||
| How is your committee? | ||
| How did we get to the situation where institutions formed by American leadership and financed by the American taxpayer get into a situation to assist the Chinese Communist Party, not simply in their rise to power, but in their iron grip over the Chinese people, sir? | ||
| Well, as you point out, you know, this relationship is evolved. | ||
| At first, you know, they portrayed themselves as sort of this benign developing nation. | ||
| And we bought into that. | ||
| And quite frankly, our private sector viewed it as a huge expanding market and the opportunity to lower production costs and uh and sell products. | ||
| And uh, as we've seen under Xi Jinping, the true nature of the Chinese Communist Party has become more aggressive and uh threatening their neighbors as well as uh our interests around the world. | ||
| And so uh I think it was a hope that they would become, as they became wealthier, they become more democratic, more freedom-loving. | ||
| It's actually been just the opposite. | ||
| And so our policies need to change as a result of that and reflect the reality of this relationship. | ||
| The pressure on you guys, I I know this from working with President Trump the first term and then being you know close to the team, the second term, the pressure from the business community and the tech community really hasn't changed. | ||
| Wall Street and Silicon Valley still look at as a as a partnership, right? | ||
| And that that's the pressure on American policy. | ||
| American policy is encaptured by a business community and uh in a in a in a finance community that doesn't see the Chinese Communist Party as an existential threat to Lao Beijing, its own people, and an existential threat to the American people and its liberties. | ||
| And the reason is they can make a ton of money. | ||
| So how do we how do we break that? | ||
| How do we actually have Capitol Hill free from that pressure and the administration free from that pressure, sir? | ||
| Well, it's a great point. | ||
| Uh our goal is to bring clarity and and bring this to light. | ||
| And so, for instance, when JP Morgan Chase and the Bank of America uh funded the largest IPO of cattle, a Chinese battery manufacturer that's linked with the Chinese Communist Party and uh supply chains relying on slave labor linked to the uh Chinese military. | ||
| You know, you have American investors investing in a company that actually uh could be developing technologies that would be used against our men and women in the military. | ||
| Same thing with some of these technologies that are used for surveillance of and the uh abuse of the Uyghurs and Tibetans, other people who are threatened by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Uh, and unfortunately, our taxpayer dollars, our financial instruments are all being used to advance this interest. | ||
| So we've been working on export controls that protect our national security. | ||
| We've been trying to uh highlight the fact that our investor dollars should not be going to fund the Chinese military. | ||
| But you're right, there's an attractive financial motive uh for people who are in it to make money in the short term and are not considering the long-term consequences of these actions. | ||
| I want to stay on I want to stay on this point because a hundred years from now, they're going to write this up like a Greek tragedy, where, as you know, the tragic figure, his his greatest attribute turns out to be a weak also has an underside that's a weakness that's used to destroy him. | ||
| What you just said right there, it's not simply Wall Street. | ||
| They're investing the pension, all these institutional investors are investing pension money. | ||
| So essentially we have a system now where the American people, their pension money is being used to fund military technology uh used against us in the defense of Taiwan in the in the three island chain in the in the Pacific and uh obviously around the world, but also to build industries that it makes it's logical to ship the manufacturing jobs to China so the slave labor can work for one-tenth of what Americans do, and financed by the American people. | ||
| That money is not BlackRock's money, it's not uh Blackstone's money, uh, it's not Larry Fink's money, it's pension fund money of the American people. | ||
| That's the tragic nature of this. | ||
| The American people are financing their own demise and the really the economic obliteration of their children. | ||
| How does that message not how do how and I understand the pressure you guys are against, but how does that message not the message every day that we force the technology oligarchs and we force Wall Street to have to defend, sir? | ||
| I I think your point is excellent. | ||
| We need to highlight this and make people aware of it. | ||
| And that's been probably the biggest challenge because this is such an important issue, yet often other issues of the day crowded out in terms of urgency. | ||
| And so we need to continue to focus on this with a spotlight and raise these issues and help people throughout America understand us. | ||
| One one thing I wanted to tell you about is recently, you know, in Philadelphia, they raised the flag of the Chinese Communist Party, honoring the uh Chinese National Day, which was the foundation of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| This is in the city where our declaration of independence, endowed by our creator with an alienable rights to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, our constitution was developed there. | ||
| And when you consider that flag raised over the city hall of this great city, uh it's the example of how these relationships need to change because it's been totally co-opted by the United Front operation of the Chinese Communist Party influencing here in America. | ||
| We were going to bring it up. | ||
| It's outright, it's outrageous. | ||
| But it also shows you how how powerful they are in subversion and how powerful it's one of the key tools of unrestrictive warfare. | ||
| Last question, I know you got to bounce. | ||
| Uh, and we've been a huge supporter of Bridge Colby and the kind of new philosophy over the defense department, Pete Heggseth. | ||
| There's a rumor coming out that the annual strategic review, the national defense strategy, uh, and this is one that we changed in the first term from the global war on terror to great power struggle focused on the CCP. | ||
| Now, a lot of the globalists at the time made us put Russia in there too, fine. | ||
| But it focused for the first time on the Chinese Communist Party as as the existential threat. | ||
| Our understanding is that the new strategy may actually have that uh it's it's not a global threat, it's only a threat potentially for East Asia uh and for that part of the Eurasian landmass. | ||
| One, do you know anything about that? | ||
| And is your committee gonna come out with a counter or work with Bridge Colby and the guys of the Pentagon and say, hey, look, this is much bigger than an East Asia problem? | ||
| Yeah, no, I I agree this is bigger than an East Asia problem. | ||
| When you, you know, the Belt and Road initiative that's going on all over the world that China is funding, you know, using ports for dual use, military commercial, uh, their influence around the world is significant. | ||
| And so it's more than a regional. | ||
| I do agree that we need to get our regional partners stepping up their game in terms of their defenses, and uh, that's something the U.S. can do just like we're encouraging NATO to uh supply more of their own defense, but at the end of the day, | ||
| we are uh competing with a very aggressive global power who is intent on setting the rules for the road, and so we cannot ignore that, and we need to be vigilant, and uh in the case of Taiwan, we need to follow the Taiwan Relations Act to help them defend against China taking them over. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Uh Congressman uh social media and how do people get more access to the select committee and the great work you guys are doing? | ||
| You know, you can uh our select committee on the ccp.house.gov is our website, and I would encourage people to go there and they can access the information that I'm sharing with you today and also follow the work we're doing as a committee. | ||
| Congressman, thank you. | ||
| Thank you for the work you're doing over there. | ||
| Thanks for coming on and sharing that with the war room posse today. | ||
| Appreciate your all right, you vet. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Take care. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Some of the most important work going on at Capitol Hill right now. | ||
| And look, you know, the war room and ourselves were the we're the we're we consider ourselves the leader and this is the leading platform for the anti-CCP movement. | ||
| That doesn't always gel with the with the administration. | ||
| Like I say, President Trump has got to balance. | ||
| He's trying to balance everything. | ||
| I mean, this is one of the reasons I think he does look a little tired. | ||
| He's doing everything. | ||
| His side deal now is trying to negotiate with the Democrats when he's doing everything else, stopping wars, building the economy, stopping immigration, stopping this internal threat we have. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Stephen K. Bass. | |
| Congressman Andy Biggs joins us. | ||
| I'm going to ask you about the shutdown in a second. | ||
| Of course, you're one of the best deficit hawks up uh up on Capitol Hill. | ||
| Uh, but I I want to talk about your you're continuing, you helping continue the Charlie Kirk tour. | ||
| Talk talk to me about. | ||
| I guess you guys were at Utah State with Tyler the other night. | ||
| Talk to me about it. | ||
| Yeah, a great event. | ||
| Um 6,500 people in that is the it's their biggest campus event they've ever had. | ||
| Uh, mostly young people, mostly college students, Steve. | ||
| Um my guess is about 5500 of them were college students, maybe you had 500 to 1,000 that were uh, you know, faculty or friends, family, whatever. | ||
| It was the energy was really uh electric and uh uh you know uh just real really powerful stuff, and um the commitment that these kids had, you know, the big the biggest line uh of the night came from Jason Chaffetz who said that you don't want men with junk in women's uh bathrooms, you know, or women's locker rooms. | ||
| Everybody erupted and went crazy, but they also uh went crazy, it's full with USA chants, it was filled with with uh Charlie Kirk chants and and Donald Trump chants. | ||
| This these were patriots, Steve, and this is a new generation, and this really is a turning point for the USA. | ||
| When you say that, you were very close to Charlie. | ||
| You're very close to turning point, Tyler and the entire team. | ||
| What is the lesson? | ||
| When you say it's a turning point, what what do you mean by that? | ||
| I think it is too, but I I'd love it when other people come to the same conclusion. | ||
| What why do you think it's a turning point and what does that mean for us? | ||
| Well, for one thing, uh it it it's a turning point because the generation that is turning is the youthful generation, right? | ||
| I mean, they're the they're young, they're coming out uh and coming for to conservative ideals. | ||
| So they're coming to God, they come into country, they come into family, you know, the the values that really made America great. | ||
| And uh, and I I see it as uh the number of people uh that want to be in this movement now is is grown by exponential bounds. | ||
| So, for instance, there's virtually every high school and every college campus has people on it that say we want to be affiliated with this program, the the uh the turning point USA program, because it speaks to them. | ||
| And uh and that that's the youth movement in my mind that's gonna change the country. | ||
| I mean, our generation, Steve, what you do is incredibly important, and we need our generation to fight as much as we possibly can. | ||
| But uh the world belongs to the youth, and youth are gonna actually turn it, uh turn this thing around. | ||
| Charlie was uh one of the things we spent a lot of time on. | ||
| We we hired him at Breitbart uh as a writer. | ||
| I think it was his first job in kind of politics or official politics. | ||
| And he he came out of the Tea Party and Charlie, I think he was uh would used to be on Glenn Becker Send Glenn Beck information when Glenn Beck back in the Tea Party days was so focused on debt and deficit. | ||
| And Charlie used to love it on the show because he would watch Warroom in the morning, and he would text me all the time when we were on debt and deficit. | ||
| We're in the middle of this fight right now, and the government shut down. | ||
| So walk me through, because you're one of our smartest deficit hawks, and we're gonna lose you when you become governor of Arizona. | ||
| So walk us through what what is the importance of this moment, not just for deconstruction administrative state, but about resciss, pocket rescissions, impoundments, and getting our hands around the deficit situation, sir. | ||
| There's so much to unpack there, Steve. | ||
| But let's just let's just say that that the Democrats um they they kind of played into President Trump's hand. | ||
| But but here's the deal. | ||
| Um here's the bad news that a CR that is at Pelosi Schumer and and uh Biden levels is the cheapest spend in Washington DC to get today. | ||
| So that's that's out there because the Republicans in Congress actually proposed budgets that were higher in spending. | ||
| So we actually came came out a little bit better doing this. | ||
| But what's happening is the administration is doing rescond. | ||
| That means that they are actually uh rescinding spending. | ||
| So they they've taken money that was appropriate to them and they said we don't need it, we're not gonna use it. | ||
| They did pocket rescissions where they just said we're not gonna spend it, and they did within 45 days, which the law allows. | ||
| And uh the next thing that you have going here is you you you have this um the narrative itself and uh that allows the president to actually come in and actually start reducing uh the size and scope of the bureaucracy. | ||
| So you have you have literally hundreds of thousands of people who've been designated by their agencies to be non-essential. | ||
| That is to say they're unnecessary. | ||
| We don't need you to keep the government open. | ||
| We don't need you, it is as if someone is saying in in British terms, you're redundant. | ||
| We don't, we just simply don't need you anymore. | ||
| That allows the president to come in and and um and uh Russ Woltz said yesterday he's going to come in and they're gonna start riffing people. | ||
| And it can't be a riff in the restore, right? | ||
| This has to be serious things, and you look at them, you say, you really are redundant. | ||
| And what that happens, it doesn't just it doesn't just take away the personnel, it actually defangs the the agencies themselves so that the agencies cannot continue to abuse the American people because they just don't have the people to abuse the American people. | ||
| And that's this is really big stuff. | ||
| It is a it it also is a change in direction fundamentally, and we thank the Democrats because they uh they walked right into this. | ||
| Walked right into it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Uh I know you got to bounce. | ||
| Uh social media, how do people follow you? | ||
| Your new campaign and also uh all your work on being a deficit hawk. | ||
| So if you go to Biggs for Arizona.com, you're gonna see me on the unofficial side. | ||
| That's that's uh hopefully making me a governor. | ||
| But if you go to bigs.house.gov, you can see everything that we've got um that we're putting out. | ||
| And um uh just just remember this. | ||
| The Democrats made their blunder because they're so blinded. | ||
| First of all, Steve, real quick. | ||
| This this is Chuck Schumer getting attacked from the left. | ||
| So he's responding. | ||
| This is also the left saying we have to protect illegal aliens. | ||
| That's it, Steve. | ||
| That's where they are, and that's why they're such a mess right now. | ||
| Congressman, it's not if you're gonna be governor of Arizona, you are going to be the governor of Arizona, and Arizona needs Andy Biggs like tomorrow. | ||
| Good luck, sir. | ||
| Look forward to seeing you back here. | ||
| Congressman, Congressman Andy Biggs. | ||
| We're losing some good ones. | ||
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You talk about deficit hawks, chip, Andy Biggs. | |
| Can we tough to replace? | ||
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Um, but I know their states need them. | |
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| Curious minds want to know. | ||
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