Sept. 25, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of them. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War room. | |
| Use your host, Stephen K. Ban. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Thursday, 25th September, year overlord 2025. | ||
| Okay, we've got even more to cover in this hour than last hour, and we're gonna have an interruption as the president of Turkey arrives. | ||
| There's gonna be a bylet, and I'm sure the president is going to make a few comments and maybe take a couple of three questions from the Oval. | ||
| So we'll we'll go to that. | ||
| Uh and I've got Mike Davis, the viceroy coming up. | ||
| Also, we're gonna go to the Maha Institute uh today has the round table uh about uh autism, the vaccines, all of it's gonna take place from five noon to five. | ||
| We're gonna cover it all live. | ||
| We're gonna have uh pre-game if we can fit it in, and then post-game at five o'clock. | ||
| So just stick around. | ||
| We're gonna get all this done. | ||
| But one thing I've wanted to do, I've had uh actually an in-studio interview scheduled uh before the Charlie Kirk um assassination, so we delayed it, but it was important enough for me that it's a book that is extraordinary and an author that kind of had a ringside seat. | ||
| You know, Gibbons wrote the uh decline and fall of the Roman Empire, but he did it, you know, many centuries later from his interest in going back to Rome as a young man and seeing all the uh what had once been a great civilization and wanting to write about it. | ||
| This is not the decline and fall, this is the rise and fall. | ||
| It's called the World's Worst Bet. | ||
| It's written by David J. Lynch. | ||
| I could not recommend this book higher to get you up to speed as quickly as possible about this. | ||
| He just heard my rant on H1B visas, as you hear every couple of days. | ||
| It's all part of globalization. | ||
| Uh David, can you just I just want to toss it to you? | ||
| Just give your background. | ||
| You've kind of had a ringside C for this, and you do the rise and fall, and it's extraordinary. | ||
| It's an epic tale. | ||
| I mean, it almost reads like a novel, right? | ||
| It's an epic tale of just people, some who are well-intentioned, some are not, who just made decisions and got us in a situation where it didn't work for people, and now we're kind of in a populist nationalist uprising that we're very proud to be one of the major platforms for. | ||
| And that's why I want people to read this. | ||
| So just how'd you get the idea for the book? | ||
| Uh, what's your background in it, uh, and just talk to us about it. | ||
| Well, uh, first, thanks for having me on. | ||
| Uh, you know, I was struck um a few years ago on on the sidelines of one of the the G20 global summits, uh, which was a very uh uh messy affair. | ||
| Uh nobody was really getting along. | ||
| Uh Vladimir Putin didn't even show up. | ||
| Uh Xi Jinping proved uh kind of prickly on some key issues. | ||
| And it struck me at the time that this was not at all the kind of harmonious environment that the architects of U.S.-led globalization had anticipated back at the end of the Cold War. | ||
| You remember the so-called end of history uh by Francis Fukiyama, the idea that democracy and free markets uh were spreading around the world as sort of the natural end state almost of human evolution. | ||
| And uh, you know, I lived through that as you did, and I I'll confess I was kind of part and parcel of that conventional wisdom. | ||
| It's and it seemed like why not? | ||
| Um, you know, anybody who lived through the collapse of the Berlin Wall, uh the dissolution of the Soviet Union on Christmas Day of all things in 1991. | ||
| Uh, it was easy to think that you know, happy days were here again, and we were gonna end up with more and more globalization, more and more Trade liberalization, and the result would be widespread shared prosperity here at home, uh, but also a more peaceful world abroad, as authoritarian nations like Russia and China opened up their political systems and and joined a U.S.-led uh international order. | ||
| And of course, that's not where we've ended up. | ||
| Um, and I try to tell that story through the eyes of a half a dozen or so representative Americans, you know, a worker, a venture capitalist, a couple of presidents. | ||
| And uh, and I think it is the the economic story of our time. | ||
| I think it's important to understand what's worked and what hasn't worked over the last 30 years, so that we're better positioned for what comes next. | ||
| Let's go back to that time in the 90s because you had a guy I work for, and I didn't work directly for him. | ||
| He kind of ran the trading side of the firm. | ||
| Steve Friedman ran the investment banking side and Bob Rubin ran the trading side, but when I was at Goldman Sachs in the 80s, you had Bob Rubin and Bill Clinton. | ||
| Uh there, because that kind of is the initial the point of an initial initiative uh initiates this. | ||
| Um the Clinton uh their concept of globalization, and particularly this bet that everybody had that liberal democracy and free market capitalism had actually won, and that these other cultures and societies and everybody would just do it because Wall Street and the global corporate community uh thought it made sense. | ||
| I mean, when I was at Harvard in the 80s, like I said, you you got that was West Point Camp. | ||
| You got stamped out as a as a globalist. | ||
| It was like a an immutable fact. | ||
| It was like the second law of thermodynamics. | ||
| There was no there was no debate. | ||
| It's just here's the way to do it, and here's how you perfect it with supply chains and you know, labor that can go everywhere, capital that's borderless, etc. | ||
| So walkers take us back into the book in the in this concept of the decade of the 90s and the personalities that really were the initiating event. | ||
| It was a heady time. | ||
| Uh and you know, you go back now and you read what some of the main policymakers of the era were saying from both parties. | ||
| And uh, you know, many of the quotes do have not aged well. | ||
| Um and I think of Bill Clinton as sort of the godfather of U.S.-led globalization. | ||
| And I think he understood uh the pros and potential cons better than anybody, certainly articulated it better than just about any other American politician I can think of. | ||
| And he always warned at the time, well, he said a couple things. | ||
| He said, you know, globalization's a fact, not a choice. | ||
| Uh, and I think he was referring there largely to the impact of technology. | ||
| Uh but he said, you know, this is gonna be a good thing. | ||
| It's gonna make the society uh wealthier and more prosperous overall, which it did, but there are going to be distributional effects. | ||
| There's gonna be so-called winners and losers. | ||
| And that's okay because the winners are going to do so well that some of their gains can go to help the quote unquote losers, the folks who otherwise might be left behind. | ||
| And we're gonna make sure they get all the assistance they need retraining, relocation, whatever sort of support might equip a basic factory worker to fully participate in this brave new age. | ||
| We're gonna make sure they get that help. | ||
| And as I say in the book, it was an attractive theory. | ||
| Uh and for a while it looked like it might even be true. | ||
| But the problem was it never happened. | ||
| It never happened under multiple administrations. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I want to go to that, I want to now want to go to that fight. | ||
| You just double, I don't want to bury the lead. | ||
| You said about both political parties. | ||
| If you read this, and that's where the I think the book's very powerful now for people to go back and understand how we got here and how we where this goes, because we're hardcore economic nationalists and populists here in the war room. | ||
| Um there was no dissension. | ||
| There was no meaningful dissent of both political parties. | ||
| People would say today we're so divided. | ||
| Well, hey, we we were united. | ||
| Kind of, I mean, there were cultural issues, but on this basic central fact of the modern industrial economy, both parties essentially had the same outlook. | ||
| Maybe on the margins, they had some differences, but the same essential you had unity. | ||
| You actually had unity in what was a business model for the United States. | ||
| Now It turns out that that business model, as we would argue here, was one million percent wrong. | ||
| It's the reason I love the title of your book is the world's I would call it the dumbest bet, but certainly the worst bet. | ||
| But go back in time. | ||
| There was no there was no dissension on this. | ||
| This was essentially kind of uh uh wall street and uh uh corporate and uh political kind of mind melt, was it not? | ||
| It largely was, and there's a quote from uh George W. Bush uh as he was running for the presidency in uh late 1999, I believe. | ||
| And uh it it's it's a lovely quote. | ||
| I I don't think I can quote it all from memory, but the paraphrase is something like economic freedom, and he was talking here in terms of uh the opening to China, bringing China into the global trading system. | ||
| Economic freedom, he said, creates habits of liberty and habits of liberty will create pressure for democratic change. | ||
| There was a a very uh strong uh rhetorical narrative at the time, not that China would necessarily become a Jeffersonian democracy, or that that was even a uh formal objective of U.S. policy, but there was a clear sense in both parties uh that expanded trade by making China more prosperous would create a burgeoning middle class. | ||
| The Chinese middle class inevitably would demand more of a say in their governance, and that would lead over time to a more pluralistic China. | ||
| And I think what happened there was we just we collectively, the American policymakers underestimated the extent to which the Chinese leadership, the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party, was not stupid. | ||
| They knew that was what folks in the West thought. | ||
| John Samin, the then president of China, gave a speech to party officials and and explained it and said the the Western uh powers think that by uh bringing us into this trading system, they're going to uh lay the seeds for our demise, but we're not gonna let that happen. | ||
| And we underestimated the extent to which the Chinese uh leadership was intent on preserving not just its authoritarian political system, but also its non-market economy. | ||
| Uh and that's uh uh another key part of the story. | ||
| What um I'm gonna go back to your the initial theory that hey the winners are gonna do the winnings are gonna be so big that the losers will get taken care of. | ||
| What when explain to the audience when did that become pretty evident that that was not that was not gonna happen? | ||
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That part of the deal was not gonna be fulfilled, sir. | |
| I think it it didn't take long. | ||
| Within a few years uh of China joining the WTO, um it was clear that the amount of Chinese imports was far exceeding what uh the the U.S. government estimates had been. | ||
| Uh, there was a study by the International Trade Commission uh as the U.S. was taking up the legislation that uh uh facilitated China's joining the WTO that estimated that uh after that happened, after China joined, uh imports uh of Chinese goods into the U.S. would increase by seven percent in the first year. | ||
| Instead, they rose by 25 percent, and over three years they rose by 50 percent. | ||
| And a lot of those products had uh uh had an impact on factory towns uh across the you know the the midsection of the United States, uh even as we were all benefiting from cheaper Chinese goods, from lower interest rates thanks to all the capital that was flowing into the country is the flip side of the trade deficit. | ||
| That that spread benefits across the economy almost like frosting on a cake. | ||
| But the problem was the costs of this transformation were laid on the backs of folks in our society with the uh least amount of education, the fewest skills in basic manufacturing. | ||
| They they took the brunt of it, and what was left behind was almost the equivalent of economic tumors in some of these communities. | ||
| But within, you know, by 2005-2006, uh, in the Bush administration, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson was pushing for the for the administration to do more to address the needs of the workers who were hurt by this. | ||
| And I remember interviewing George Bush in 2006 or 7, I think it was, and I put this question to him and asked whether more wasn't needed, whether the system shouldn't be more robust. | ||
| And he said no. | ||
| He thought the uh existing program, which is called trade adjustment assistance, always terribly inadequate, poorly funded. | ||
| Um, he thought that was sufficient, and of course it wasn't. | ||
| Uh David, can you hang on one second? | ||
| We're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| David J. Lynch is with us, the author of the world's worst bet. | ||
| If you want to understand the rise and fall of globalization in a very accessible book, tells it through stories, lots of data, but tells it through stories of individuals. | ||
| This is the one that could be very quick read, get you up to speed, up the learning curve. | ||
| Because uh this has not been sorted out yet, as you can tell. | ||
| But we argue every day here in the war room. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Also, the viceroy, Mike Davis, as we await the president of Turkey to arrive to the White House for a meeting with the president of the United States. | ||
| Short break, back in a moment. | ||
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| So, folks, instead of me just screaming about it all the time, you now get to read about it in a uh in a really terrific book, The World's Worst Bet. | ||
| Um The Rise and Fall of Globalization. | ||
| Um David Lynch is the author. | ||
| I I want to get you back when we've got more time because I want to talk about kind of the where we get where we are now, where we go. | ||
| But a question I've always had to myself is the this because President Trump is not a politician. | ||
| When he got into this, he's a business guy. | ||
| But he has these kind of innate instincts, right? | ||
| How did the Clintons, as savvy as they are, and understanding Bill Clinton, you know, Bob Reuben, these guys were kind of the architects in the 90s. | ||
| How did Hillary Clinton, who, you know, is kind of our arch nemesis here, but I've always said, hey, brilliant, and particularly they have great political instincts. | ||
| How did they miss the importance of this story to the American people and how the American people out in the particular the heartland of this country, and this is how we pierced the blue. | ||
| When I got into the thing, I said, we're gonna go after the blue wall, we're gonna go after Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Iowa and Ohio, which weren't in our camps at the time, because this is the heart of where the destruction was, and Clinton can't stand up, and she never changed. | ||
| In fact, she doubled, she kind of doubled and tripled down. | ||
| How did that happen, sir? | ||
| Good question. | ||
| You know, I remember interviewing her during the during the 2008 campaign, uh primary campaign when she was running against Barack Obama. | ||
| And the white working class was sort of her last stand in places like Pennsylvania. | ||
| And I remember interviewing her in a in a high school gym in that state, and she was saying things about the need to adjust our approach to globalization, uh, use more industrial policy, the kind of things that really didn't come to fruition, uh, certainly in the Democratic Party until Joe Biden uh was elected in 2020. | ||
| Um so I think to some degree they saw this, uh, but they they didn't act on it. | ||
| And uh you know, by the time we get to the 2016 election, a lot of these communities, these so-called China shock communities that have just taken in the chops from uh the rise of of China, they get hit again by the global financial crisis in 2008. | ||
| And that's made worse by global capital flows. | ||
| And then you have the weakest recovery in the post-war era. | ||
| Uh so by the time 2016 rolls around, these people have been battered and bruised, and they're desperate for anything other than the establishment approach. | ||
| And uh, you know, they didn't have much of a choice seen through that lens in 2012. | ||
| But by 2016, you've got a pretty clear choice between an establishment, well-regarded establishment figure, former Secretary of State, uh Hillary Clinton, uh, or this very disruptive, very unorthodox populist figure, Donald Trump, who is basically saying we're gonna throw all this stuff out uh and do it 180 degrees differently. | ||
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David, uh, whenever I get the book, we're gonna have you back very quickly. | |
| Uh, where do people go to uh if you're giving any talks or book visits, uh any interviews, where do people go to get up to that on your social media and where they go find the book? | ||
| Well, they can find me on social media, David J. Lynch, uh, both on X uh Blue Sky, uh I'm findable on Facebook. | ||
| I'm even now on Substack, David J. Lynch won uh there. | ||
| Uh the books on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, the publisher, Hachette. | ||
| Uh, so it's it's out there in all the all the usual spots. | ||
| And uh uh as you rightly pointed out, I uh this isn't an economics textbook. | ||
| Uh I try to tell the stories of individual Americans and uh show folks uh how they were affected over these years. | ||
| No, it's it's the power of it. | ||
| It's a very powerful narrative history, it's got a lot of economics in it, but it's accessible to folks to kind of understand, which sometimes seems like you need a Harvard NBA to understand. | ||
| David J. Lynch, thank you, sir. | ||
| Thank you for writing it. | ||
| Thank you for coming on war. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| For having me. | ||
| Very accessible, folks. | ||
| The rise and fall of globalization. | ||
| Of course, we know it's not over. | ||
| It ain't over till it's over. | ||
| It's certainly not over. | ||
| Do I have I want to play a clip? | ||
| I got the viceroy here, and I've got it here for a couple of reasons. | ||
| Let's do I have a short clip. | ||
| Play this clip and I'll jump in. | ||
| Breaking news of the night is that federal prosecutors have written and submitted a memo explaining why charges should not be brought against former FBI director James Comey. | ||
| That news comes a day after a day of intense speculation that Donald Trump's new acting U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, adjacent to Washington, D.C. will seek an indictment of James Comey, possibly for lying to Congress before Tuesday of next week, because the five-year statute of limitations on that charge will expire on Tuesday. | ||
| That goes a couple more minutes, but Kent Delanian, who is kind of the comms department for the uh for the uh the permanent Justice Department, not Trump's Justice Department, leaked, got a leak last night at 10 o'clock at night that three career prosecutors are writing a memo that's saying Comey can't be charged, uh, shouldn't be charged, he can't win in court, and uh doesn't meet standards. | ||
| Let's start there, uh, Mike Davis, the viceroy. | ||
| Where are we on this thing? | ||
| Well, let's let's just step back and tell the audience what happened to your uh five years ago, just short of five years ago, uh, we had James Comey go before the Senate Judiciary Committee on a congressional investigation about crossfire hurricane, | ||
| where it's very clear now that that's the Democrat operatives in the in the Obama White House, Biden, uh Obama, Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, so many others, they politicized and weaponized Intel agencies and law enforcement before the 2016 election to take out then candidate Donald Trump and help Hillary Clinton to cover up her foreign corruption that we've talked about on this show for the last three years. | ||
| Comey was called to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee, he was under oath. | ||
| And Senator Ted Cruz asked him if he had discussions with the media, right, about crossfire hurricane. | ||
| And there's evidence he clearly lied. | ||
| He clearly perjured himself. | ||
| And Andrew McCabe, his deputy, has evidence that Comey did talk to the media. | ||
| So that is five years ago, right? | ||
| And so we're coming up on the statute of limitations. | ||
| I think it's September 30th, the statute of statute of limitations for most federal felonies, uh, like perjury, obstruction of Congress is uh, or it's it's actually obstruction of a congressional investigation, but obstruction of Congress for shorts is five years. | ||
| And so the grand jury would have to indict Comey by September 30th. | ||
| And so that's what's President Trump's new U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to these press reports, is going to do. | ||
| And remember, with a grand jury uh indictment, you have to go to a grand jury of your peers. | ||
| They look at the evidence, and then they did they determine whether there's probable cause to move forward with criminal charges. | ||
| And so that's uh according to the news reports. | ||
| That's what's gonna happen. | ||
| Now you have these apparently three assistant U.S. attorneys in the Eastern District of Virginia Virginia or wherever the hell they are, who are writing a memo saying that there's not evidence and that they're not only is that bad, they're they're leaking this memo to friendly reporters. | ||
| And by doing that, they are violating, clearly violating their attorney obligations, their uh obligations to their client, client confidentiality, the Department of Justice uh rules as it applies to attorneys, particularly federal prosecutors. | ||
| It is highly inappropriate. | ||
| It's illegal that these prosecutors are leaking this memo to their friends in the liberal media, and you have to ask why are they doing this? | ||
| They're doing this because they're trying to protect James Comey. | ||
| They're trying to protect these lawfare democrats like they've been trying to protect them for the last eight years. | ||
| And so uh that's for the grand jury to decide whether there is evidence that James Comey committed perjury and obstruction of of a congressional investigation. | ||
| I would also say this that remember, in addition to perjury and an obstruction of a congressional investigation, there's also the charge of conspiracy. | ||
| And the conspiracy is ongoing. | ||
| When you cover up a conspiracy, you continue the conspiracy. | ||
| So in order to stop the yeah, but we gotta get the we gotta get this one down now because you're gonna get a uh you're gonna get a uh this is low-hanging fruit, and you've got a uh a um, you know, the the the time's gonna run out, right? | ||
| This conspiracy is ongoing. | ||
| The president, the frustration with the president came out when he put the thing out about Pam, and he's sitting there listening to all the guys. | ||
| I mean, we have two things going on. | ||
| Number one is the war against the deep state, of which DOJ's got to take the lead on. | ||
| And the and the other is what this political violence is being driven by the left in the media now. | ||
| But let's take the going for the deep state. | ||
| Do you think we're start hiring more people? | ||
| Because the president's clearly frustrated, we just need more bodies over DOJ and at the U.S. attorney's offices to kind of make this uh to make this happen. | ||
| We got a minute here, Mike, and I'll hold you over briefly into the next block. | ||
| Uh, but d do we have enough bodies now? | ||
| If have DOJ understood that the president's frustrated and he wants Brennan, he wants these other guys uh perplked. | ||
| I have said on your show, Steve, for for over three years since the Mar-a-Lago raid, that they need to open a criminal investigation and bring criminal charges in the Southern District of Florida, Fort Pierce division, where they did the Mar-a-Lago raid under 18 USC Section 231 conspiracy against rights, because the Democrats politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement to go after their political enemies for non-crimes. | ||
| That is textbook conspiracy against rights. | ||
| Uh the Democrats are very familiar with this charge. | ||
| It's one of the four charges they brought against Trump by Jack Smith for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election, which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 and the first amendment. | ||
| I have made it my mission for three years to bring accountability. | ||
| I'm gonna make it my mission for the next four years to make sure there's accountability. | ||
| And I promise that justice is coming. | ||
| Uh, my good friend, Jason Redding Kinone's just got confirmed as the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida. | ||
| And I have very publicly called on Jason Redding Kinotes to open up this criminal probe in the Fort Pierce division uh for conspiracy against rights. | ||
| Mike, hang on for one second or hold you for a couple of minutes in the other side. | ||
| The Viceroy is with us. | ||
| Okay, here we go. | ||
| Uh, right there on the full screen is the president of Turkey. | ||
| The president of Turkey is arriving now for the bilateral meeting. | ||
| Uh, the president's gonna greet him. | ||
| He's going to the working side of the West Wing. | ||
| Uh, we'll continue to watch that. | ||
| The president sure will step out, shake his hand, they'll go on the oval, probably 15-20 minutes away from starting the by lap. | ||
| Brian uh Glenn is there. | ||
| We're all over this at Real America's voice. | ||
| Mike Davis, real quickly, uh, brother, um, and we're gonna keep that shot up. | ||
| Mike, um, the other aspect of this, this political violence is now spinning out of control. | ||
| Coach shot last night, of course, uh, snipers at ice facilities, they're burning down, they're they're blocking the ice facility in Portland every night every night. | ||
| What does the he's designate Antifa a terrorist organization? | ||
| They've designated the the tran transgender militias as nihilistic violent extremists, NVEs or FBI. | ||
| What needs to be done now to to stop this? | ||
| There's no longer a debate about this. | ||
| What do we need to do to put an end to this, sir? | ||
| It's very clear that today's Democrat Party is the party of violence, and we need to take this very seriously. | ||
| And they must face the the these these violent terrorists who are trying to kill President Trump and trying to kill his supporters, killed Charlie Kirk. | ||
| This is unacceptable. | ||
| And you have these Democrats politicians cheering on this violence, and it's unacceptable. | ||
| So what needs to happen is the Secretary of State uh in consultation with the attorney general and the Treasury Secretary, in addition to designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization, they need to designate Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization to start charging people who support Antifa with material support to terrorism. | ||
| You need to expel all aliens, legal and illegal, who are associated with Antifa, and you need to cut off their funding. | ||
| You also need to use our federal laws to go after everyone who attacks federal law enforcement for assaults on federal law enforcement and attack federal property. | ||
| You need to charge them with those crimes, and they also need to charge conspiracy, uh, which will you can either do a RICO conspiracy, a racketeering conspiracy that we've used to take out the Klan and the mob, or you can use the general conspiracy charge, and you can get a lot of these bad bad actors with conspiracy charges. | ||
| And so it is time to take off the kid gloves and go after these uh these violent left-wing terrorists. | ||
| This is not a both sides issue. | ||
| This is a today's Democrat Party issue of violence. | ||
| And uh it needs to be at the federal level. | ||
| We need to have state attorneys general, we need to have local DAs. | ||
| This needs to be an all of governments, uh, all of America approach to take take out these uh these these terrorists. | ||
| And they need we need to wipe them out legally, politically, and financially. | ||
| Uh Mike Davis, Article 3. | ||
| Where do people go on social media particularly? | ||
| Because you're always coming in hot, and then over at Article 3, where do folks go? | ||
| Article 3 Project.org, article number three project.org. | ||
| Uh, the most important thing the posse does is take action. | ||
| Action, action, action. | ||
| Also follow us on social media and donate, but only what you can afford. | ||
| And thank you very much, Steve. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| The Viceroy, Mike Davis, thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you for changing your schedule round. | ||
| Let's go now. | ||
| At the uh it's the Willard Hotel from noon to five, will be a round table on one of the most important topics of our day. | ||
| We're gonna cover it on all our streaming platforms throughout the day, and then back at five o'clock for a wrap-up. | ||
| Britt McHenry, new uh DC reporter for and correspondent for Real America's Voice and the great Claire Dooley. | ||
| Claire, as you remember, a young filmmaker that we introduced to this audience a couple of years ago. | ||
| Uh, guys, where are you right now? | ||
| Why is this important? | ||
| What's gonna be covered, and who's gonna cover it? | ||
| Well, this is very important. | ||
| This is following up on President Trump's press conference about uh autism rates spiking, as we know. | ||
| One in every 31, I believe, uh since 2002 was the latest estimates. | ||
| But Claire will elaborate on that. | ||
| We are here, it's all about to unfold at about noon. | ||
| But Claire, I want you to take us through this. | ||
| Like C said, you're you work on documentaries, you're maha mom, what about this panel will illuminate anybody streaming, anybody listening, anybody reading about this, uh, in more in depth about the rise in these cases we're seeing and what the concern is. | ||
| So I think something we can expect from this panel today is to learn about the broad spectrum of autism, right? | ||
| So when we talk about autism, we're not talking about being slightly quirky or being good at math. | ||
| We're talking about profound autism. | ||
| A lot of these cases, they have um seizures around the clock, gastrointestinal issues, brain inflammation, and the medical industry has slapped a title of autism on these people because the spectrum of autism is so broad. | ||
| So today we are having a broad discussion in detail, broken into four panels where you can learn about you know the genetics behind autism, the epigenetics, the environmental factors. | ||
| Of course, we're gonna talk about vaccines, and we're gonna talk about um activism as well. | ||
| We have spellers where we have these incredible cases where nonverbal or non-speaking autistic adults who haven't spoken their entire life at 25 are learning how to speak with these um boards. | ||
| So we have a lot of really amazing topics and conversations that should be happening around autism, and so with the Mahat Institute, we're and Maha Action, we're really excited about the announcement last Monday, but we want to go deeper, right? | ||
| You know, we're really glad Trump brought up, you know, a Tylenol and acetaminophen and all these different issues, but today we're gonna go as deep as we can into these topics. | ||
| You can arm yourself with information and figure out what's actually going on with autism, because so far the medical industry has gaslit mothers, right? | ||
| So I traveled the country, I interviewed parents, uh, thousands of parents with poly Tommy on the CHD bus, and we interview parents whose children have been injured by autism or by vaccines and had caused autism. | ||
| And so those parents told the same story over and over again. | ||
| They didn't know each other, but they had the same exact experiences. | ||
| And you know, by 18 months, your kids are getting 25 different shots in the United States, and these parents are saying, hey, look, I'm seeing these adverse reactions. | ||
| My kids started banging their head on the wall, they're losing speech, they're losing the ability to walk, they're having seizures, they're having fevers, they're having rashes, and doctors are just saying, Oh no, it's fine, keep vaccinating, give them some Tylenol, go home, sleep it off, it'll be fine. | ||
| And then when the mother says sees her child, and her child, she's losing her child in front of her own eyes, and the medical industry is completely pretending like it's not happening. | ||
| We are here today to say it is happening. | ||
| Your child is regressing, and we're gonna go into the details of of all the science behind what's going on. | ||
| So I'm really really excited. | ||
| Why has there been such a resistance to it? | ||
| On the phone, we spoke about uh Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey going back 20, 30 years ago that started to ring alarm bells uh as parents, as concerned citizens about the vaccination rate. | ||
| Uh why, when you speak to these families affected, has it taken it so long? | ||
| I think that's a question a lot of people not as educated on everything, hopefully they will be today. | ||
| Why is it taken so long to get to this point where we're now touching taboo subjects like Tylenol, over the counter medicines? | ||
| Why has it had this stigma? | ||
| Well, there's several factors at play here. | ||
| I mean, ultimately we have censorship, and and RFK Jr. has talked about um the direct market to consumer advertising, that's a big issue. | ||
| Uh pharmaceutical interest, and 1986, the um vaccine injury act was passed where uh pharmaceutical companies were given immunity from lawsuits from vaccines, and we had several different cases with the swine flu and even polio where people were brain injured with DTP vaccine that they later recalled and replaced with DTAP. | ||
| And um there's been profound cases in history with vaccine injury, and the whole goal of the medical or pharmaceutical interest is to erase them, right? | ||
| We have a whole court set up in the United States to to pay out in uh awards for injury, yet vaccine injury doesn't exist. | ||
| I mean, come on, like this is that that's why we're here because we're saying, hey, this is actually happening, and um, and I think this conversation should have happened 20 years ago, 30 years ago. | ||
| Britt, hey Brit, hey Britt, Britt, let me jump let me jump in here for a second. | ||
| President Trump, he did talk about Tylenol, and but I know Trump, I think as well as anybody publicly, not in when he talked about the little baby in the VAT lane next to it. | ||
| And it you could see it touched him as a human in the in the stories With the mothers. | ||
| And he talked about the long history with his friends. | ||
| But then he said later, he with everything else he's got going on and is known for. | ||
| He's gonna stake his presidency on the success of this of reversing this with autism. | ||
| That is President Trump driving a stake in the ground and saying, not just am I all in. | ||
| I mean he kind of outbobbied Bobby Kennedy that day, which is impossible to do. | ||
| He said, I'm staking my presidency on reversing this. | ||
| How does that impact you in your movement have who have kind of been treated as you know outliers or kind of wing nuts up until the Trump presidency? | ||
| I would definitely say that a lot of these people mothers are outliers. | ||
| They can't leave their home because autism is so severe that the public cannot see them. | ||
| And so to have the the president of the United States come out and say, hey, we're gonna look into this. | ||
| We're gonna stake, I'm gonna stake my pregnant my presidency on this. | ||
| Um it means a lot to us. | ||
| But at the same time, we are gonna keep on doing at Maha what we've always done. | ||
| I mean, I am deeply rooted with grassroots organizations all over the country, and it doesn't just stop with vaccines, it it goes with the health of America in general. | ||
| Hey, Claire, we we've we've got to cut to the uh White House, the Oval Office. | ||
| The President started, we'll come back to you guys. | ||
| Let's go to the Oval Office, President of the United States. | ||
| You're going to get a lot done. | ||
| But I have great respect for this man, and we've had a very good relationship for a long time. | ||
| If you remember, he led Pastor Brunson uh he freed Pastor Brunson. | ||
| Pastor Brunson was put in jail for 35 years before I got there. | ||
| This was uh a group that should have stopped it, and uh the president uh after I called him, released him, which was a great thing for our Christian community, our evangelical community, the evangelicals really really wanted that. | ||
| It was very important to him, so I always remembered that. | ||
| But he released him from 35 years in prison. | ||
| And uh Pastor Brunson now is healthy, happy and well. | ||
| And we're very happy about that. | ||
| But I it's a great honor to have uh the president of Turkey with us. | ||
| And how are you? | ||
| Say a few words. | ||
| First of all, we are working on this event by the UN, and we are very happy to be with our friends. | ||
| Getting Trump Birin Zudem, getting Turkey, America, it is kidding the Sureji. | ||
| Can they fade if Utuzbish getting said Hulkman Kasila Ilgine Adam Zaki Ilishunuja Gurishme for the set of jumps uh in a neurodah il gine said on yep, | ||
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may uh this mister President, uh I am very pleased that this visit actually coincides with the 80th uh Unga. | |
| So I am very pleased to be here with my colleagues and friends, and as we have said during the first term of your presidency and during your second term, we are able to carry Turkey and US relations to a much different level and process. | ||
| And as you said, we have an opportunity here today to be able to discuss some of the issues regarding the F-35, the F 16, and also the Hulkbag case, and we will have an opportunity to thoroughly discuss them. | ||
| And based on what you have mentioned regarding the Heibina school, uh we are ready to do whatever we can that falls on our part, and I will when I get back, uh, try to discuss this issue with the esteemed Mr. Bartholomos uh to discuss how we can move forward on that. | ||
| Okay, very good. | ||
| I would like to be able to do that. | ||
| The uh the Greek Orthodox Church was here, and they would really like to have some help. | ||
| They need some help, and uh he said I'd mention it, we appreciate it. | ||
| So this is a tough man. | ||
| This is a a guy who's uh highly opinionated. | ||
| Usually I don't like opinionated people, but I always like this one. | ||
| But he's a tough one. | ||
| And uh he does an amazing job in his country. | ||
| And we've had tremendous relationships, both having to do with war and having to do with uh trade. | ||
| And I guess today we're talking about both. | ||
| I'd like to have him stop buying any oil from Russia while Russia continues this rampage uh against uh Ukraine. | ||
| And uh they've been fighting, they've lost millions of lives already, and for what? | ||
| You know, for what it's graceful. | ||
| And I said yesterday, let it keep going because their economy is absolutely terrible right now, and uh I think it's I think it's a shame that they're doing that, killing a lot of people unnecessarily. | ||
| 7,818 people were killed last week, mostly military people, their people and Ukrainians. | ||
| More Russians actually than Ukraine, a little bit more, but it's such a waste of human life, and so we ought to stop Putin ought to stop and with that we'll get to uh a little bit of a discussion. | ||
| We're gonna make some great trade deals for both countries. | ||
| We do a lot of business with Turkey, they build great products, they build beautiful great products, really fantastic manufacturers, and we buy a lot from them and they buy a lot from us. | ||
| Uh would you have any questions, please? | ||
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You've repeatedly uh called out Obama and by the administrations for their stupid decisions. | |
| One example you gave was refusal to sell the patriot missile defense systems to Turkey, which resulted in the expulsion of the country from the F-35 program. | ||
| Now, you are known to be a great deal maker in Turkey. | ||
| What can you do to undo the stupidity? | ||
| Yes, CNN Turk. | ||
| CNN. | ||
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Because you sounded like an asking fake too. | |
| But you sound like the real deal. | ||
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Quite proud. | |
| We're gonna be discussing the patriot system, which is the best system. | ||
| And we'll discuss that. | ||
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We're gonna discuss the F 35. | |
| We'll be discussing all of the things that you know about, and that some of you mentioned. | ||
| Um, and I think he'll uh be successful with buying the things he'd like to buy. | ||
| What concrete steps can you take to make that? | ||
| We haven't even started yet. | ||
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Can I have one question? | |
| He wants the F-35, and he's wanted that, and we're talking about that very seriously. | ||
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And the F-16 were in great shape. | |
| Certain other things he needed, as you know, and I'm gonna uh see to it that we get that to him. | ||
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He need certain things, and we need certain things, and uh we're gonna come to a conclusion you'll know by the end of the day. | |
| Can I throw the questions to Mr. Mr. President's gonna uh sis uh Bashkan Trump, Nikola Borischin, Chabolango Stadina? | ||
| So let me just mala contact. | ||
| How can you do this with this issue? | ||
| I believe that I will tell you that we will be able to help the region's problems. | ||
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You know, no planning to have a lift of things sanctions. | |
| Uh Mr. President, this you have referred to President Trump's peace efforts, and you have also contact with many leaders in the region, and uh what do you think that you can do about this? | ||
| And Mr. President has said that yes, I believe in the peace efforts that President uh Trump is leading, and together we will be able to overcome the challenges in the region. | ||
| I think it's true. | ||
| He's got tremendous influence in the region. | ||
| Yeah, please. | ||
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Mr. President, when are you planning to lift cats sanctions against Turkey? | |
| Against uh sanctions, yes, cuts. | ||
| Mr. Benz. | ||
| We have a good meeting almost immediately. | ||
| President Ardan is removing removing tariffs on US goods, and uh what impact it would be in uh US production. | ||
| Where are you from Turkey? | ||
| We have a lot of people from Turkey. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Because I like the questions. | ||
| And we'll see about tariffs. | ||
| We're gonna be talking about that. | ||
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He already removed them. | |
| Well, we're gonna be talking about that. | ||
| Mr. Britain, what about Gaza? | ||
| Mr. President. | ||
| Mr. Sanctions on Russia, even if not all NATO countries um stop purchasing Russian oil. | ||
| Uh we're gonna be seeing about that. | ||
| The NATO countries were disappointing in that regard, but they've been very uh amazing in other ways. | ||
| Uh they did, as you know, they went from 2% to 5% GDP, and that's a big set, and it's paying the money there. | ||
| We're uh selling a tremendous amount of military equipment to NATO. | ||
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We're selling, we're not giving like Biden did. | |
| We're selling it to NATO. | ||
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I mean, it's uh it's a lot, they're buying a lot. | |
| I assume they're giving it to Ukraine. | ||
| I think they could buy it for other reasons too, but I assume they're giving most of it to Ukraine, but they're buying highly sophisticated weaponry, and uh they're paying for it full price, and uh that's how we're involved. | ||
| Biden gave 350 billion dollars. | ||
| Look, this war would have never started if I were president. | ||
| If I were president, this war would never be happening. | ||
| Would have never happened, yeah. | ||
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Mr. I would like to talk about Gaza. | |
| Are you on the same page, Mr. Erdogan for Palestine Israel? | ||
| Well, I don't know his stance. | ||
| I can't tell you about that. | ||
| I just say that uh we want to get Gaza and a great meeting with the leaders of that area of that region, generally speaking, the Middle East. | ||
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We had a great meeting the other day at Alga, as you know, and I think uh we're I think we must be getting some kind of deal done. | |
| Yeah, we want to we want to get the hostages back, I have to get the hostages back. | ||
| We're the ones that got the hostages, all of them that we have now, but it looks like there are uh twenty living hostages and probably 38 or so dead hostages. | ||
| Pretty sad, and the parents of those dead souls, so it's dead, mostly men, boys, in many cases, like literally boys. | ||
| They want those bodies back so badly, as much as though they were alive. | ||
| And we had a very good meeting with the representatives of the most powerful countries in the Middle East, and I think we're going to be close to India. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Mr. President, uh we've noticed that in the Uranian war and uh during the Israeli-Iran war, uh the the air space of the NATO countries uh is very uh fragile and it needs to be uh stronger. | ||
| And in that sense, Turkey being the second largest army in NATO. | ||
| Um it needs to support its air force and air defense. | ||
| How do you look at this uh issue in general as a NATO? | ||
| Well, we should play. | ||
| Yeah, we're in NATO, and and you know they're paying now five percent of GDP. | ||
| Nobody thought that was possible, and they agreed to that uh six months ago when I was there, and the relationship is very good. | ||
| The NATO countries are I mean, with us, is the strongest it's ever been. | ||
| We used to complain that they're paying two percent, but they're not paying. | ||
| The United States was paying almost everything, and now they're paying five percent, and they paid. | ||
| And that's trillions of dollars. | ||
| You know, we're talking about trillions of dollars, and they're spending that, giving that money to us, and we are giving them great defensive, you know, the Patriots and all of the different uh javelins, all the different missile systems and everything else that they want. | ||
| Uh but it's uh, you know, it's trillions of dollars, so we appreciate that they did that. | ||
| So they went from two percent to five percent of GDP, and that was something that nobody even would bring up. | ||
| Uh Biden should have brought it up a long time ago, because uh under Biden, we paid 350 billion dollars, and all it did is make things worse. | ||
| So we'll see ya. | ||
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| Fighter jets, at 35, fighter jets for Turkey. | ||
| Yes, we are. | ||
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Mr. President, I'm going to see any step that's going to be taken today about the issue, about the things that are going on in the Gaza-Palestine. | |
| Are we going to see anything? | ||
| We have a very strong dialogue going on with uh Saudi Arabia, with uh I would say you have four or five real leaders that are being uh good, as you know. | ||
| I met with uh Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE, uh we met with Jordan, the king of Jordan was there. | ||
| We had we had great, uh we had a really great meeting. | ||
| I think a lot was uh determined at that meeting, and I have to meet with Israel, and I have to do that also. | ||
| Uh They know what I want, and we think I think we can get that one done. | ||
| I hope we can get it done. | ||
| A lot of people are dying. | ||
| But we want the hostages back. | ||
| We don't want them back one this week, one and two months from now, three later, and you know, like the way it's been going. | ||
| We got them all back, we got a lot of them back. | ||
| We got our American, the American Alexander, we got the American hostages back. | ||
| But we have now 20 plus 38 bodies, dead bodies, and we want them all back, and we want them back at one time. | ||
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President Trump has the government has shut down. | |
| President Erdogan will help to uh to release the hostages in the world. | ||
| Do you think President Erdogan will help the release the hostages? | ||
| I don't know, but it'll help I I don't really think we have I don't think it'll be necessary in this case. | ||
| I think we're gonna be in a pretty good position. | ||
| There are a lot of people that want that done. | ||
| I met with great leaders. | ||
| Look, over you saw the people that were there and uh great leaders, Egypt was also represented. | ||
| Uh we met with the leaders of that part of the world, and they want to see if they can get something done, and I have I'm gonna have to tell Israel, let's go. | ||
| We want to get the hostages back. | ||
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They want everybody wants to see that war over with, by the way. | |
| So we're going to see what happens. | ||
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How do you see a joint initiative with President Erdogan to bring the president uh of Russia, Putin, and President Zelensky to the negotiating table? | |
| Well, well, I can tell you that President Erdogan is very respected by both of them. | ||
| Everybody respects Erdogan, they really respect Erdogan. | ||
| I do, and uh I think he could have a big influence if he wants to. | ||
| Right now he's very neutral. | ||
| He likes being neutral, so do I like being neutral. | ||
| But uh he's somebody that if he got involved, I the best thing he could do is not buy oil and gas from Russia. | ||
| If he didn't, if he did that, that would be probably the best thing. | ||
| He knows Putin like I know Putin. | ||
| Uh I thought Putin, I've I settled, as you know, seven wars, and it's probably more than that if you really want to know the real facts, but seven wars, and I thought this would be among the easier ones to settle, but uh I'm very disappointed in Putin. | ||
| And he's been fighting hard, he's been fighting long, and they lost millions of they lost like a million soldiers. | ||
| And you know, they've with all of the heavy bombardment over the last two weeks. | ||
| They've gained almost no land. | ||
| Think of that. | ||
| They've gained almost no land. | ||
| And I'm not gonna ever call anybody a paper tiger, but Russia's spent millions and millions of dollars in bombs, missiles, ammunition, and lives. | ||
| They're lives, and they've gained virtually no land. | ||
| Uh I think it's time to stop. | ||
| I really do. | ||
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Thank you, President. | |
| Thank you, President. | ||
| Well, there's 400. | ||
| Mr. President. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| This is the band in the war room. | ||
| We're gonna toss now to the Charlie Kirk show. | ||
| We're gonna live stream the symposium on all of our platforms. | ||
| Grayson Moe will do it on Getter on our Real American Voice platform and on a rumble, so stay tuned for that. | ||
| We're back at five. | ||
| Again, I just fake news, the worst fake news, but I like him. | ||
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so Syria has been a major issue between the two countries for the past decade. | |
| And you said the future to Syria is in Adoan's hands back in I think December and January. | ||
| And the countries are in the process of integrating little fractures into the main government. | ||
| When do you want to see that happen? |
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