Sept. 25, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Former FBI director and outspoken Trump critic James Comey is expected to be indicted by the Department of Justice in the coming days. | ||
| At this point, it's not even clear what Comey would be charged with. | ||
| Sources tell MSNBC that one component may be an allegation of lying to Congress almost exactly five years ago during testimony about whether he authorized a leak. | ||
| And that five-year anniversary is actually quite important here. | ||
| Comey's congressional testimony at issue was September 30th, 2020, as you see, given there remotely, which means that the five-year statute of limitations expires next Tuesday, September 30th, 2020. | ||
| If this Department of Justice, the Trump Department of Justice, wants to charge Comey with this dubious crime, well, it needs to do so before then. | ||
| Both Comey's lawyer and spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's Office declined comment to MSMEC, but this looks on its face like a wildly blatant abuse of the justice system, certainly far exceeding anything that we have ever seen since Watergate at least. | ||
| It's the culmination of an explicit, in the open effort to use the Department of Justice to persecute, prosecute Trump's political opponents and perceive them. | ||
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A zombie uh democracy. | |
| And it's there's so many parallels. | ||
| You talk about this to like Hungary. | ||
| And again, Donald Trump told us I love Orbon. | ||
| He's a strong man. | ||
| We need a leader like Orban. | ||
| Well, looks like we might get one. | ||
| Yeah, if you're waiting for you know goose stepping stormtroopers to go marching down Constitution Avenue, I don't think that that's likely to happen. | ||
| If you're looking for, you know, millions of people to be chanting his name, it doesn't happen. | ||
| As I wrote, people leave his rallies early when they get bored. | ||
| No one left the Nuremberg rallies early. | ||
| So it's not the parallel to look for. | ||
| The parallel is today. | ||
| It's it's in Hungary. | ||
| It's in Venezuela, it's in Turkey, it's in India. | ||
| It's democracies that erode that don't collapse overnight, that erode. | ||
| And what happens is one by one, the checks on the leader's power disappear or fold. | ||
| Congress becomes a rubber stamp. | ||
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That's happening, yeah. | |
| The civil service is turned into uh a legion of toadies. | ||
| Now on the GDP side, this is our third time around the block on Q2, and we see a really solid revision. | ||
| 3.8%. | ||
| I'm a bit shocked to be honest. | ||
| Usually the revisions you get to second and third becomes smaller and smaller. | ||
| So 3.8% would be the best quarter going back to, and we have to go back a ways here, uh, till 4.4, and that was the third quarter of 23. | ||
| Now, it is uh important to point out that if you look at the first quarter final down half a percent, there's a balance there, but the balance is moving in favor, momentum is moving in favor for better growth. | ||
| Pink, you know, one thing that stands out to me as someone who is not as close to these types of issues as the two of you is with Trump so often, right? | ||
| Like the chaos is the point. | ||
| So he can publicly name and publicly shame and point fingers and get on X and post whatever he wants. | ||
| It's incredibly difficult for the average American to keep up with, okay, this guy's in, this guy's out, this guy's indicted, Comey, what did he do again? | ||
| Right? | ||
| It's it all sort of collides together into this giant ball of chaos where what's happening is ultimately despicable, but the average American, I think has a very difficult time even discerning what Trump is up to here. | ||
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Kevin, how would you assess the Macro story today? | |
| Right. | ||
| Well, the macro story right now is first of all, that inflation has dropped sharply uh since President Trump took office. | ||
| Uh growth has been very high. | ||
| We've got industrial production at an all-time high, capital spending up eight percent so far this year, mortgage rates are down in part because of the tariff revenues down by about 70 basis points. | ||
| So the typical uh new home buyer right now is saving 250 dollars a month because of the lower interest rates because of these policies. | ||
| And the thing when we go back and talk about the disappointing uh Fed policies that the president has talked about, you know, one of the things that I found odd, and uh Governor Myron has been talking about it, is that economic theorists know that if tariffs have any effect on prices, that it'll give be a one-time adjustment, not an increase of inflation. | ||
| And to have Austin Gouldsby and a lot of the other people that are out of the FOMC talking about how inflation is why they're being so restrictive is you know contrary to fundamental economic policy, economic theory. | ||
| And I I think that uh Governor Myron is just pointing that out. | ||
| And And I actually see watching uh the Fed people discuss inflation and tariffs over the last few days. | ||
| That they're moving towards the consensus, which is the economic consensus that if there were to be a price increase from from uh tariffs that it would not be inflationary, it would be a one-time movement. | ||
| And I think that's a good thing if you're optimistic about future rate cuts. | ||
| Rid of all the independent offices, whether it's inspectors general, uh prosecutors who are independent, federal commissioners, for example, on the FCC, central bankers, Federal Reserve, and you replace them with loyalists. | ||
| And then society beyond government, and oh we shouldn't forget about the courts. | ||
| The lower courts seem to be acting as independent an independent judiciary. | ||
| I'm a little worried that the Supreme Court has become a kind of firewall for the administration when whenever there is a real uh direct legal threat to its power. | ||
| And society itself begins to atrophy. | ||
| Even the press, we're here criticizing the administration. | ||
| They're I don't think they're gonna be coming in and and hauling us off to prison. | ||
| But journalists start asking themselves, what will be the consequences of this story? | ||
| Are we gonna get sued? | ||
| The way the New York Times is now facing a 16 billion dollar utterly frivolous lawsuit. | ||
| Uh am I gonna get investigated? | ||
| Am I gonna get named and abused publicly by the president, which brings a lot of hurt onto me, perhaps my family? | ||
| These questions start to gnaw. | ||
| And meanwhile, the major media are one by one falling under the control of the president's friends until and which happened in Hungary, until eventually there's really not a whole lot of independent media left, some small outlets. | ||
| Um when I look when you get beyond the days outrage to the kind of cascading effect of all of these erosions of checks, right? | ||
| You begin to think, what's the limit to his power? | ||
| For me, it's largely his attention span. | ||
| So that describes authoritarianism, not the 20th century version that we all grew up studying and and fearful of. | ||
| A modern version that is more boring, more cynical, but to me just as dangerous because democracy has this blood in its system, and if you cut off the blood flow, it starts to die. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You're just not going to free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not gonna stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen Cateman. | ||
| It's Thursday, 25th September in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| Uh our show today is absolutely packed. | ||
| We have Wade Miller on the government shutdown over from CRA, Sean Davis from the Federalists joins us on just amazing articles talking about the political violence on the left, Rosemary Jenks on the HB uh H1B scam still continuing. | ||
| We've got David Lynch, who's written a magnificent book called The World's Worst Bet about Globalization, its rise and fall. | ||
| David will join us in the second hour as long as as well. | ||
| The Viceroy Mike Davis and um and uh then we're gonna have uh Claire Dooley and Britt McHenry are gonna be live from the symposium where the round table is gonna take all afternoon. | ||
| We're gonna carry it all over our platforms here in the war room and REV, uh Britt McHenry, a new reporter for them. | ||
| Uh is gonna be covered in R and V, and then she'll be back at five. | ||
| Um so much going on, so I want to break it down in pieces and then we'll tie it all together. | ||
| Let's go with the economy first. | ||
| Uh Joe Lavarnier from the Treasury Department uh joins us. | ||
| Uh Joe, uh now we're restating uh we're we're we found out that the Dura Labor Statistics uh has uh created a million and a half jobs under Biden's watch that didn't exist. | ||
| Now we're going back and and re and recreating or updating the GDP and it's almost four percent. | ||
| Um, you know, CNBC is like jaw dropped. | ||
| It's three point eight percent on the on the the analysis of the last quarter. | ||
| Uh the numbers are looking great, uh, but people on the on the left are not happy. | ||
| The mainstream media is not happy because I think they're spinning the wrong numbers. | ||
| Uh your assessment, sir. | ||
| Uh yes, Steve. | ||
| The economy, the fourth quarter actually was revised down a bit. | ||
| Uh so you take that and the downward revisions to employment that under the prior administration, and the handoff to the president was no way near as solid and robust as many had thought just a few months ago. | ||
| But in the second quarter, when the president was uh fully uh in office for the entire quarter, we grew 3.8 percent. | ||
| It was led by consumer spending. | ||
| Consumer spending was running significantly faster than what was first reported up two and a half percent. | ||
| That's important, Steve, because I think there was excitement uh and optimism about the one big beautiful bill being passed, which is benefiting blue-collar workers and no tax on tips overtime, all those things now which are law and are being codified by IRS makes people excited. | ||
| We just recently, Steve got very strong retail sales data, overlooked this morning our durable goods orders, which are booming. | ||
| That sells us the third quarter is gonna be running over three percent. | ||
| Uh, this golden era that the president has talked about is very much here. | ||
| So these are excellent numbers and very consistent with the president's messaging out for forever. | ||
| Okay, so Scott, our old colleague here would come on and talk about the big beautiful bill, and actually before he became Secretary of the Treasury for the years on here, and then we was working with President Trump on the campaign, said this is our last shot to get a supply-side tax cut that really focuses on production capital to drive the economy forward. | ||
| The bet there was that we get to three to three and a half percent. | ||
| What does this tell us right now? | ||
| Is the new target? | ||
| I mean, I think Scott said a couple of times, I think he even said it on the show, and I think you might say, hey, uh you know, maybe get to four percent. | ||
| What is your current assessment of treasury, like third, fourth quarter as you see it because the capex is just starting to kick in right now, correct? | ||
| People are starting starting to build these facilities, plan the facilities, actually break ground on the facilities, sir. | ||
| And the first quarter, CapEx grew over 21%, and that's because the bill was designed to make things retroactive. | ||
| So companies excited about the Trump presidency already started to spend. | ||
| We grew over eight percent in the second quarter, so the outlook is is really strong. | ||
| Productivity is accelerating. | ||
| That could we get the four percent growth? | ||
| I mean, we had a big technological boom back in the late nineties, and you could argue what's happening now and all the President Trump's initiative of encouraging foreign capital in with AI, crypto, all these potential newfangled innovations in industries. | ||
| Growth could be four. | ||
| If we get to three, Steve, which people don't think is possible, have been poo-pooing that for a while, which was consistent with the first Trump term, we're gonna do wonderful things, and if we could get better than that, even better. | ||
| But I think the point is the economy's back. | ||
| The president knows how to grow it, and he's gonna grow it, Steve, in a way, and the Secretary knows this as well. | ||
| Grow it in a way that's gonna work for average working class Americans, people who have suffered disproportionately over the past four years. | ||
| It's improving their living standards by lowering the cost of goods and services and raising their real and real wages. | ||
| Uh, last thing, uh, I know you got to bounce. | ||
| Uh monetary policy, this is why we had Hassett on. | ||
| Is it are are we are we getting to a plan where monetary policy could actually dovetail with physical policy and the cut and the and the president's economic strategy so we can kind of all work together as one big happy family, sir? | ||
| You would think so, Steve. | ||
| I mean, uh I heard Stephen's speech earlier in the week at the New York Economics Club. | ||
| It was excellent. | ||
| Kevin Hassett repeated that inflation is not driven by a potential one-off increase in the tariff level. | ||
| Uh so yes, if monetary policy work goes in this in the direction it's supposed to, and by the Fed's own Admission, Steve. | ||
| They say policy is tight. | ||
| The economy could do even better. | ||
| And again, what we saw under President Trump's first term is strong growth for everyday Americans and low and stable prices. | ||
| There's no reason why it's not going to happen again. | ||
| And the data this morning reinforced that very key narrative. | ||
| Sir, what is your social media so folks can follow you? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| It is at Lavorionomics. | ||
| And of course, they could also link there's a link here also to follow the Treasury Secretary, of course. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Always, always uh get them to follow Scott. | ||
| Joe, thank you so much for taking time away. | ||
| I know you're busy today. | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thanks again. | ||
| Monetary policy coming from the Federal Reserve, our central bank. | ||
| Fiscal policy coming from the administration. | ||
| Folks, take your number two princil out. | ||
| Our called shots gonna work here. | ||
| Old government shut down at midnight on the 30th, or I guess one minute after midnight, could run out of money. | ||
| Russ vote, OMB, the great Russ Vote might have been thinking about this for a while. | ||
| Wade Miller from CRA joins us after a short commercial break. | ||
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| If you're on Getter earlier, my next two guests, in fact, my next three guests, Wade Miller at CRA. | ||
| You've gotten all the reports, political and everything else. | ||
| They put up a little commentary about the shutdown. | ||
| Sean Davis, the Federalists on fire. | ||
| I think the intellectual sec uh center of gravity of the populist nationalist movement. | ||
| Incredible, incredible, incredible pieces on um on this political violence. | ||
| Of course, Rosemary Jenks on the H1B scam that we'll all get into. | ||
| And then we've got uh, and this is it would look Erdowan showing up today at supposed to be 11. | ||
| I'm sure it's gonna be a little bit late. | ||
| We've got um Lynch, uh, one of the top economic reporters from the Washington Post with an amazing book on the rise and fall of globalization that is a must-read if you want to understand the whole history of it and the personalities and everything that went on. | ||
| So um, he'll be on Mike Davis. | ||
| We're gonna try to get it all in. | ||
| Uh when I talk about monetary fiscal policy, is Lula coming to the White House? | ||
| Maybe it's a phone call next week. | ||
| Um, and somebody can somebody the president's staff please give him Lula's speech that Lula had right before the president walked up there because he's trashing all of President Trump's policies. | ||
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| So Wade Miller. | ||
| I think the Democrats have now walked into a trap. | ||
| They set for themselves kind of because they're now gonna they're arguing that unless President Trump agrees, essentially, and Miller said this last night, I think over at Fox, unless the the Republicans agree and the president agrees to continue to fund illegal alien health care, health care for illegal aliens, they're just not gonna vote on anything and shut the government down. | ||
| Now I realize people are out of town, but Russ Vote has just uh ruined their uh their dreams of uh chop blocking the Trump uh the Trump revolution by saying, you know, this is very interesting because this really, you know, as OMB director, uh, I think we have a central and non-essential workers, and I think the agencies ought to be prepared for uh quote mass firings, unquote. | ||
| Brother Wade Miller, we got to get our hands around this fiscal policy. | ||
| You know, even the clean CR House Freedom Caucus supported, we kind of said, hey, if you got to do it, you gotta do it because Russ votes saying I got rescissed, I got pocket rescinders, I got impoundments, I'm gonna start cutting away at this thing. | ||
| But now we're talking about mass firings. | ||
| We're finally getting to what doge kind of attempted to do. | ||
| Uh, what how real is this, sir? | ||
| Well, I think it's very real, and it's an it's an amazing own goal by Democrats and a strategic failure on their part. | ||
| Uh Republicans were basically ready to fund government at current levels, and of course, that wasn't good enough for them. | ||
| So they're heading towards the shutdown. | ||
| And I don't think that they really understood uh the mindset of the Trump administration towards woke waste, uh woke weaponizing wasteful uh government. | ||
| Uh because essentially on September 30th, October 1st, there is no appropriation in place. | ||
| So, you know, in past shutdowns, presidents have decided to furlough, but there's no requirement to furlough. | ||
| That the the Trump administration can instead just start firing at large-scale, woke, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| This is so key. | ||
| This is absolutely this is what I say. | ||
| This trap was set. | ||
| In the past, you could kind of, and they did. | ||
| They kind of played footsey. | ||
| That's why you just had a couple of park rangers that maybe took a day off or something, right? | ||
| This is totally completely different. | ||
| What Rose Ross votes saying, hey, at midnight on the 30th, it runs out, baby. | ||
| The new fiscal year starts at one in the morning on the uh on the first of October, and we got no money. | ||
| We have no appropriations, we have nothing. | ||
| So I've got to go to all non-essential workers. | ||
| I'm not going to furlough them. | ||
| I'm going to fire them. | ||
| Is that essentially uh Russ Vogt's plan? | ||
| Well, the yes, if there's no appropriation in place, then the president of the United States has a significant amount of authority to eliminate spending to comport with the lack of that appropriation, minus uh security, uh things that uh uh are life-saving uh national defense. | ||
| But otherwise, that the president has a broad amount of authority. | ||
| And if the president uh uh authorizes OMB director Russ vote to put that plan in place, they can take a wrecking ball to a lot of these uh uh uh bureaucracies that are unnecessary and are just uh elevating the debt, serving no public purpose. | ||
| So in that respect, just legally and statutorily, I don't understand what the Democrats are thinking, and I'm kind of glad that they're this inept. | ||
| Russ has always been very aggressive about this. | ||
| Do you have a sense of the white? | ||
| It seems from politico and these other stories, the White House. | ||
| I mean, everybody's moving forward because Russ is not a guy to get out over his skis. | ||
| Do you anticipate now that this because I think it's technically too late to get everybody back together before the 30th, right? | ||
| I think it's uh first of all, you'd have to do it a couple days in advance, but I don't even think the House is back until next week, right? | ||
| So is that are we marching forward in unison? | ||
| They could call back, that's true. | ||
| But you didn't got the Senate. | ||
| I mean, there's no there's yeah, but the Democrats have laid down that they're not prepared to back President Trump's current plan, that it has to be, you know, health care for illegal aliens. | ||
| Um so where do you think we stand with the administration on actually doing this is maximalist strategy? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| Uh what do you think? | ||
| Uh what do you think the probability here is? | ||
| Well, Russ is one of the most loyal people I have ever met, and he truly believes that his job is to serve the interests of the president, not his own agenda. | ||
| So if Russ Vogt is out there talking about this, that tells me it's almost a certainty that the white house has approved this. | ||
| It would be extremely unlikely for Russ to ever do anything that he didn't think the president, uh, would support or had authorized. | ||
| So that tells me that this is a very likely, uh, uh uh uh outcome should a shutdown occur. | ||
| And look, the left can throw a hissy fit and say that they're gonna sue, but I don't understand from uh uh a legal perspective how they would be able to stop in a shutdown where there's no appropriation in place, uh the firing of uh uh bureaucracies and bureaucrats that are unnecessary uh in a in a government shutdown scenario that have nothing to do with national defense, life-saving measures or uh security apparatuses. | ||
| We've talked about on the show for the last couple weeks. | ||
| Russ has been signaling essential versus non-essential, essential versus non-essential. | ||
| Do you have any sense right now of the scale that we're talking about? | ||
| I don't, uh, but there's a lot of bureaucracies out there that I know uh that the president and other cabinet secretaries, and remember, this is not just for us to vote. | ||
| This would be all cabinet secretaries tasked with identifying woke, weaponized and wasteful bureaucracies within their areas of responsibility. | ||
| So it would be all hands on deck uh effort to identify. | ||
| So my guess is it would be significant. | ||
| Uh Wade, where do you uh where do you go? | ||
| By the way, I I sat in my office in the West Wing next to the president, or right next to the one down from the president, with Russ Vogue, then deputy in May of 2017, and he whiteboarded out the waterfall, how cash came in on the debt ceiling, and also we were heading towards a government potential government shutdown in September, and Russ had thought it through back then. | ||
| He's refined it. | ||
| I mean, this guy, he is the perfect OMB pick, the perfect right hand for the president. | ||
| Uh, Wade, where do folks go to um find out more about CRA and also follow you on social media because you guys are on top of the story like nobody else? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| America Renewing.com is our website. | ||
| Uh, and my social media handles on X is uh Wade Miller underscore USMC. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thanks for having me on. | ||
| Okay, prepare for Russ vote. | ||
| Russ vote's gonna get eviscerated. | ||
| He'll go front and center. | ||
| It's his turn in the barrel starting probably this afternoon with uh MSNBC and CNN, New York Times, Washington Post. | ||
| This guy's cruel, he's a Christian nationalist, he's this, he's that. | ||
| Hey, they had every opportunity to work with President Trump. | ||
| And now they're saying, well, the the the logic, last night was Stephanie Rule that had this guy. | ||
| Well, the logic's worked against it because the president can't say me, yo. | ||
| The Democrats came up with demands that the president said there's no need to sit down. | ||
| If this is what you're demanding, you can't negotiate that. | ||
| And you've said you're demanding it, so no need to meet. | ||
| Remember, the fiscal part of this, we still have to get our arms around. | ||
| It's still, I believe, too much of a Keynesian stimulus. | ||
| Because the deficit, I think, on the 30th, as I've said, I thought was two trillion. | ||
| It's gonna be 1.9. | ||
| I think we could get to two if it's all appropriately accounted for. | ||
| You got to deal with that. | ||
| That has to be dealt with. | ||
| Russ has got a plan for rescissions, pocket resistance, impoundment. | ||
| Because the folks on Capitol Hill are not, they're not equipped to deal with the problems. | ||
| This is remember the whole single subject spending bills and and and appropriations bills. | ||
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Well, here we're here where we are. | |
| The best alternative, I know this audience is wildly enthused about that, is a CR that goes to 21st of November, 21 November. | ||
| That looks like that's not gonna happen. | ||
| Nobody's around. | ||
| They're trying to call the president's bluff, and he's gonna bring out the heavy siege guns. | ||
| He's got Russ Vogue. | ||
| And Russ Vote, the brothers got a plan. | ||
| And uh this is really gonna take a meat axe to the administrative state. | ||
| As Russ Vogt has thought this thing through for years and years and years. | ||
| The folks over Heritage helped him with Project 2025. | ||
| Many people worked on this. | ||
| So I kept telling you essential versus non-essential, and the the lovers of big government over the Democratic Party are gonna be shocked at what's determined to be non-essential. | ||
| Short break, the great Sean Davis and the Federalists next. | ||
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| Um, Sean Davis. | ||
| Uh the Federalist. | ||
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| First of all, we have two articles specifically, but the whole thing I want you to take. | ||
| Um, the two articles, one, you've got an amazing article, three more left-wing attacks follow Charlie Kirk's murder, which is really about how the media is goading this on and is an active partner in this. | ||
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| About the the bullet. | ||
| That's one of the things on the bullet that uh assassinated Charlie Kirk, and is put out by the John Brown, I guess John Brown society or some new society. | ||
| First of all, I want to thank you. | ||
| You you've been the intellectual center, your site, the Federalists, with so many amazing articles every day from just top-line thinkers and writers that if we didn't have you right now in this movement, I I don't know where we'd be. | ||
| I point people to the Federalists all the time because you you provide the intellectual kind of framework of the fight that we're in, and it's a fight. | ||
| So, Sean Davis, can you talk to those two pieces then overall this moment in American history and where we are? | ||
| Yeah, so we had two great pieces. | ||
| The first was from John Davidson looking at the terrorist legacy of John Brown. | ||
| And make no mistake, John Brown was a terrorist. | ||
| He went and butchered innocent people uh in the cause of abolition, you know, which is a good cause. | ||
| Uh, but the definition of terrorism is using violence uh against non-combatants in order to bring about political change. | ||
| It's not guerrilla warfare, it's not conventional warfare, it's killing innocent people to terrify a populace into doing what you want them to do. | ||
| Uh that's what John Brown did, and now John Brown has become uh something of a uh an icon for these these ugly gay communists who style themselves as anti-fascists. | ||
| They've decided that they're, you know, they're not the communists going out and murdering people in the street uh for Marxist ideals. | ||
| No, they they have in their uh heads this idea that they're just trying to go and free the slaves, and therefore, just like John Brown thought, they can do anything they want, they can kill anyone they want, they can perpetrate any violence they want, uh, to whatever ends they want. | ||
| And then the second article we had was a spectacular one from Brack and Tees about all of the additional left-wing terrorist attacks we've had since Charlie Kirk was murdered. | ||
| Uh, I believe our headline was that there were three terrorist attacks. | ||
| I think we can add a fourth, because I think there were a bunch of terrorists who went and shot a little league coach while he was praying uh last night or the day before. | ||
| And you know, I I like hearing what I'm hearing from the administration about uh, you know, they're calling the terrorists what they are, they're calling the violence what it is. | ||
| Uh I kind of think the time for talk is over. | ||
| It's been two weeks, two weeks and a day since Charlie was killed. | ||
| Uh the time for talk is over. | ||
| The time to roll up these terrorist Antifa networks that are out there openly calling for and executing violence on us. | ||
| The time for that nonsense is over. | ||
| So, like they need to get Kraken and quit talking uh because lives are at stake. | ||
| Our lives are at stake. | ||
| Uh, and we can't stand for this nonsense anymore. | ||
| The the the president had to put out a tweet or a true social last week uh directed to Pam to say, hey, look, I don't know what's happening here, but you got Brennan and these guys on TV still doing smack talk and they all should be in prison. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| And part of that was driven, I think, by Comey not being indicted and the in the statute of limitations running out next week. | ||
| We know that the FBI has now designated these training the transgender militias, these radical and trust me, they are radical violent militias. | ||
| Uh NVEs, nihilistic violent extremists in the categorization that gives them a broader range of things to go after. | ||
| Also, we designated Antifa on uh on Monday, President Trump coming back from Charlie Kirk's uh commemoration or funeral service, however you want to call it, uh saying, hey, where is this thing to designate Antifa terrorist organization, which you which gives you a broad toolbox, not just to go after the first level of the of the of the frontmen and the guys in the black bloc and all that crowd, but the second tier of people that train them? | ||
| Many of those come from the United States military. | ||
| Just got to understand that, and from our national security apparatus and from the intelligence apparatus. | ||
| And then the most important is all the foundations that give money, all the media works with the partners and all the billionaires, the sources, and all those guys throughout the world that finance this crap. | ||
| Uh what do you anticipate? | ||
| You say is time talks over. | ||
| Um do you, you know, we had uh Glenn Youncan last night filling in for Charlie uh and and Megan Kelly. | ||
| Is is that aspect of what Charlie was trying to do over? | ||
| Are you saying, hey, on a on a macro level, we gotta throw the we gotta throw the gauntlet down and stop putting up with this crap? | ||
| Yeah, and I actually think Trump needs to go a step further. | ||
| I think it's great that he's designated Antifa and all the little uh tentacles from that is domestic terrorist organizations. | ||
| I actually think there's more than enough evidence and information to actually designate them as foreign terrorist organizations uh because that opens up an even bigger and more powerful toolbox. | ||
| We know they get a lot of their money from overseas. | ||
| We know they get a lot of organization and help from Germany from within Europe. | ||
| Uh so I I think Trump needs to go even further and treat them as the uh not just domestic but foreign funded and organized terrorist organizations that they are. | ||
| Uh we're looking at an ISIS equivalent. | ||
| We are looking at people who are highly organized. | ||
| Um, they operate in cells, they all have the same goals. | ||
| They're trained, whether it's by former U.S. military or foreign military, to go out and perpetrate violence. | ||
| They need to go and they need to be crushed. | ||
| And I think that means going and doing raids on these people who are trying to seize uh and run sieges against federal courthouses against federal buildings. | ||
| These are terrorist organizations. | ||
| We need to treat them like we treated Al-Qaeda and ISIS and every other group out there. | ||
| Um it's not enough just to have executive orders. | ||
| We actually need to have people going after them, hauling them in, taking them off the streets, and most importantly, they need to have their their financing networks absolutely destroyed. | ||
| You're gonna see people that were either former government officials or in the government today, you're gonna see financiers, all of it, media, politicians, all of it. | ||
| This is what you got to go start kicking down some doors. | ||
| I could not agree with you more. | ||
| Sean Davis, last thing the pressure on Federalists to crush the Federalists and to get you get you guys shut down. | ||
| How intense is it, sir? | ||
| Oh, it's a it's extremely intense. | ||
| There has been a uh extremely well coordinated and financed operation coming after us really since we we began uh uncovering the Russia hoax, um, but it was kicked into overdrive in in February of 2021. | ||
| Facebook worked to crush us, Google worked to crush us, YouTube made sure nobody ever saw our videos. | ||
| None of them have have apologized, none of them have offered restitution. | ||
| It's the kind of thing that cost us millions and millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| As you know, running a meetup organization uh to to tell the truth and to go against the left is not a cheap uh thing. | ||
| It costs money. | ||
| We have to hire people, we have to hire editors, and the entire left-wing movement, uh, the entire Democrat power apparatus uh has been focused on on crushing us. | ||
| We're not going anywhere, but but my goodness, is uh is it a fight trying to just stay alive when you have all of the forces of evil in this world trying to crush you? | ||
| Sean Davis, where should people go right now to follow you on social media and where they go get the Federalists? | ||
| Folks, you gotta make this part of your media diet every morning. | ||
| It's the intellectual kind of framing mechanism we have. | ||
| Where they go, Sean. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| They should go to thefederalist.com. | ||
| We're actually running a matching campaign right now. | ||
| So every dollar people put in up to $100,000. | ||
| Uh, we've had a donor who will match it dollar for dollar. | ||
| Uh, it's really important for us to get that kind of support. | ||
| And then number two, they can find me on X at Sean M D A B S E A N M D A V. Sean Davis, thank you so much. | ||
| Keep the fight, man. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| This is very dangerous. | ||
| He's 100% correct. | ||
| This is terrorism. | ||
| I'll get more information. | ||
| They shot that the Little League coach shot him. | ||
| Praying. | ||
| I think there's gonna be some announcements. | ||
| About what happened down in Dallas. | ||
| Once again, like in uh, you know, a progressive mother, you know, uh babying these grown men, and what they do to go out there and shooting people with high-powered rifles is snipers. | ||
| And then because they're they have such great backgrounds in uh, you know, in um in religion and the Judeo-Christian West, they commit suicide, they shoot themselves. | ||
| It's a fine mess they made, but that doesn't have to destroy the United States of America. | ||
| You're having a color revolution run on you, and there are people staying up and saying we've had enough, and we're not gonna tolerate it. | ||
| And I don't care how much the mainstream media, there's nothing to talk about. | ||
| This is not a debate anymore. | ||
| All they're doing, and the media is pushing this saying, oh, Trump's an authoritarian Trump said, fine, say what you want. | ||
| It's time to shut it down. | ||
| You've got the tools, and I agree with the foreign the major terrorism to get more, get more tools, but shut it down, let's start kicking down some doors. | ||
| FBI was pretty they kicked down doors on the abortion people got a bunch of grandmothers in prison. | ||
| I know because in my prison, and I went in a camp of the prison I was in, the unbelievable, the holiest people I've ever met, folks in their 60s and 70s, because they prayed the rosary outside of an abortion clip and they're in a federal prison, doors kicked down by the FBI, Merrick Garland sent them to prison. | ||
| Why is Mary Garland not in prison? | ||
| Why is Lisa Monaco? | ||
| Well, she's at Microsoft, the general career why is she not in prison? | ||
| It's time to take the gloves off and stop screwing around with this. | ||
| Let's get on with it. | ||
| And you can see, don't take it from me. | ||
| Do not take it from me. | ||
| The frustration of President Trump when he's got to send a public message to his attorney general, like get off, you know. | ||
| I need some action here. | ||
| And first off, Halligany installed an Eastern District, and hey, I guess she's bringing the indictment on Comey. | ||
| Although last night during Lawrence O'Donnell, they said there's an eternal memo now coming from three career prosecutors. | ||
| No, you can't do it. | ||
| It's not going to hold up in court, etc. | ||
| etc. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks, we've got about a minute, minute and a half here. | ||
| I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
| H1Bs, and particularly Senator Grassley. | ||
| Where do we stand with this mess that Howard Lutnick didn't explain, kind of misled the president, misled the country, misled Wall Street, mid less misled folks in India? | ||
| Uh give me a minute on this before we go to break, and I'll bring you back. | ||
| Yeah, Senator Grassley is exactly right. | ||
| The only way, and he didn't actually connect these in his tweet, but the only way that uh Secretary Lutnik's plan works is if you end OPT, because the fee for the hundred thousand dollar fee does not apply to people who are in the country and adjust from one status to another. | ||
| And the the most common is from OPT to H1B. | ||
| So all the Microsoft's and Amazons and and all of those are going to use that in-country adjustment to avoid the fee. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The only people will be paying it will be the body shops unless you get rid of OPT. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Lutnik, you're a sleazy bond salesman, and that might have worked when you're at your sleazy bucket shop selling uh uh these uh crappy bonds to the unsuspecting, but it don't work here. | ||
| You've lied and try to sell a bill of goods to the president of the United States and the American people, and it is unacceptable. | ||
| And you are unacceptable. | ||
| It's a clown show. | ||
| So we're gonna break it all down for you, and thank God for Senator Grassley. | ||
| short break. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen Kack. | ||
| By the way, you know, we had Pat Veloski on last night, and um Chris, because of this YouTube and Google thing. | ||
| And remember, here in the world, we want to break up Google. | ||
| We don't want to work with it, we want to break it up. | ||
| We built one of the most largest and most powerful shows in all media, and we're banned everywhere on all the big platforms. | ||
| I had that happen. | ||
| It was real America's voice and uh our ability and grace and our ability just to get the content and you as force multipliers. | ||
| Well, YouTube, oh, we're gonna let Bon Gino Banner back on. | ||
| I said, Hey, F you. | ||
| Zero interest. | ||
| I think the report is Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes actually put up YouTube channels last night. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Taken down right away. | ||
| That's what Pavlovsky's told me or showing me. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Uh Rosemary Jenks. | ||
| This was a bait and switch. | ||
| It's a bait and switch. | ||
| The reason is Reed Hastings and all these guys at Netflix, all the big shots are coming out saying this is a wonderful, it's a solution. | ||
| So if those demons like it, you know it's bad. | ||
| H1B visas are a total and complete scam. | ||
| And it's an insult to the kids and young men and women that went through all the training, everything to say that they're foreign workers better. | ||
| They're not better. | ||
| No one's ever showed me one billet that didn't have we didn't have the education and the job experience to do. | ||
| It is a scam to destroy American workers by big corporations and the oligarchs whose greed is unlimited, unbound. | ||
| What they want is to pay people slave wages and have them live as indentured servants. | ||
| It's not acceptable, and we are gonna get this program shut down. | ||
| Now, talk talk about the loop. | ||
| First off, he lied about everything in the Oval Office. | ||
| If any other guy had ever done it, be fired immediately. | ||
| This is not a tiny program, and it's not a small issue. | ||
| It's a central issue for American citizens. | ||
| And he sits there in the oval and just lies. | ||
| Oh, it's an annual thing. | ||
| All this money we're gonna generate to shut the deficit, just bald face lies. | ||
| This is not a miss, this is a bald faced lie. | ||
| Then the most important part is OPT. | ||
| Tell people what that terminology means. | ||
| What's the concept? | ||
| And why is it they're sneaky? | ||
| It's Lutnik's sneaky workaround here with his corporate buddies in Silicon Valley, ma'am. | ||
| So OPT stands for optional practical training, and it is a scheme that was cooked up under W. Bush to allow foreign students once they've graduated to remain in the United States and take a job. | ||
| They don't have to pay FICA taxes. | ||
| The employer doesn't have to pay FICA taxes for them. | ||
| So that's basically, you know, a 7.5% discount for employers to hire them over American students. | ||
| Um and then Obama actually expanded the program for STEM OPT to three years instead of one year. | ||
| So these foreign students get three years at an a discount for the employer to essentially find an employer to sponsor them for an H1B. | ||
| And since they're already in the country, they're not gonna have to pay this fee. | ||
| Now, I'm going to step out of bounds here, Steve, and say that I don't actually believe that Secretary Lutnik was lying. | ||
| I think that he doesn't understand immigration law. | ||
| And I think he probably believes everything he said, or at least did. | ||
| But okay, hold it. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Then hang on, hang on. | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| I say you should be fired for lying. | ||
| You say you should be fired for being a moron because of the commerce secretary doesn't understand. | ||
| This is not esoteric. | ||
| This is central. | ||
| And that's why knowing Lutnik and knowing what a sleazy bond salesman he was, right? | ||
| This is the kind of bait and switch he does. | ||
| But look, I'll go with you. | ||
| Let's say he wasn't lying. | ||
| But if this is the case, he's too dumb to be the commerce secretary. | ||
| So pick it. | ||
| He's either a liar and should be fired or he's too dumb and should be fired. | ||
| Either way, he tried to screw and he's screwing American workers. | ||
| Is he not, ma'am? | ||
| You know, I don't think that is his intention. | ||
| I think the H1B program needs to be eliminated. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| Um, I think he is trying to make it my microscopically better. | ||
| But it's not going to work. | ||
| And it's not going to work because of the complexities of immigration law. | ||
| Um, and you know, I don't think he included the Department of Homeland Security in coming up with this order. | ||
| Um or the gold card order for that matter. | ||
| Uh, and the fact is they're just not going to work because of how complicated the law is and how many workarounds there are for these big employers who don't want to pay a fee, don't want to hire Americans, and can get away with it still under the this order. | ||
| You see what a nice person and a good person, Rosemary Jinks is you're a good person, you're a nice person. | ||
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But you damned him so by the way, the gold card's not right. | |
| He didn't talk to you didn't include DHS. | ||
| What do you it's got to be central? | ||
| That's a listen. | ||
| Here's the bottom line. | ||
| The bottom line is that people like yourself that go about it very much and don't get all worked up and say, hey, no, this is where you're wrong, bing bing bing. | ||
| And Senator Grassley, who's an old war horse and from Iowa, and has got that kind of common sense out there in the great heartland of this nation, right? | ||
| You guys think this say, hey, neither one of these work. | ||
| They're not even close to coordinating with existing law, but more importantly, they're just kind of all workarounds. | ||
| When Reed Hasting comes out, Reed Hasting, who hates the president of the United States more than anything, when he comes out and says, Yeah, I think this is great, it's really gonna work. | ||
| You know that the big the big shots in Silicon Valley, it works for them. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, what's your recommendation now? | ||
| Uh how we get this shut down, particularly backing Senator Grassley and what he's doing, ma'am. | ||
| Well, so we need to stop OPT, and because it was created by executive fiat, the administration can stop it dead in its tracks today. | ||
| Just a you know, stroke of the pen can stop OPT. | ||
| But more importantly, we've got to eliminate H1B. | ||
| And by the way, I don't know if if you have seen this, but Senator Banks has introduced a bill that doesn't end uh uh H1B, but it does eliminate OPT. | ||
| It raises the base salary for H1B to 160,000 150,000, uh, which is almost double its current salary. | ||
| Um, it makes a lot of changes that would make a big difference and would definitely cut out the body shops and the the people who abuse it most. | ||
| Um, so that's a step, but we need to eliminate it. | ||
| Ma'am, you're fantastic. | ||
| I'm gonna send everybody to your site so they can get up to speed on this. | ||
| Where they go, Rosemary, social media and your site. | ||
| IAProject.org is our website, our Twitter account. | ||
| Just look for immigration accountability project. | ||
| You'll find us on on X, on YouTube, on everything. | ||
| Um, we haven't been banned yet, but we're working on it. | ||
| You're you're you're a happy warrior and a good person and a decent person. | ||
| So thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| Dave Bratt, by the way, is on our board. | ||
| Folks, think about where we were at the fight with Elon back in the hey, the the it's a trust the process. | ||
| We're getting there. | ||
| Eliminate this scam, all of it. | ||
| Stop taking jobs away from American kids, men and women who have worked their entire life to get into this space. | ||
| It's unacceptable. | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
| And let foreign students take their jobs, incredibly unacceptable. |
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