Sept. 25, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| Former FBI director and outspoken Trump critic James Comey is expected to be indicted by the Department of Justice in the coming days. | ||
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At this point, it's not even clear what Comey would be charged with. | |
| Sources tell MSNBC that one component may be an allegation of lying to Congress almost exactly five years ago during testimony about whether he authorized a leak. | ||
| And that five-year anniversary is actually quite important here. | ||
| Comey's congressional testimony at issue was September 30th, 2020, as you see given there remotely, which means that the five-year statute of limitations expires next Tuesday, September 30th, 2020. | ||
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If this Department of Justice, the Trump Department of Justice, wants to charge Comey with this dubious crime, well, it needs to do so before then. | |
| Both Comey's lawyer and spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney's Office declined comment to MSNBC, but this looks on its face like a wildly blatant abuse of the justice system, certainly far exceeding anything that we have ever seen since Watergate at least. | ||
| It's the culmination of an explicit, in-the-open effort to use the Department of Justice to persecute and prosecute Trump's political opponents and perceive them. | ||
| A zombie democracy. | ||
| And there's so many parallels. | ||
| You talk about this to like Hungary. | ||
| And again, Donald Trump told us, I love Orban. | ||
| He's a strong man. | ||
| We need a leader like Orban. | ||
| Well, looks like we might get one. | ||
| Yeah, if you're waiting for, you know, goose-stepping stormtroopers to go marching down Constitution Avenue, I don't think that that's likely to happen. | ||
| If you're looking for, you know, millions of people to be chanting his name, it doesn't happen. | ||
| As I wrote, people leave his rallies early when they get bored. | ||
| No one left the Nuremberg rallies early. | ||
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So it's not the parallel to look for. | |
| The parallel is today. | ||
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It's in Hungary. | |
| It's in Venezuela. | ||
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It's in Turkey. | |
| It's in India. | ||
| It's democracies that erode, that don't collapse overnight, that erode. | ||
| And what happens is one by one, the checks on the leader's power disappear or fold. | ||
| Congress becomes a rubber stamp. | ||
| That's happening. | ||
| The civil service has turned into a legion of toadies. | ||
| Now, on the GDP side, this is our third time around the block on Q2, and we see a really solid revision. | ||
| 3.8%. | ||
| I'm a bit shocked, to be honest. | ||
| Usually the revisions as you get to second and third become smaller and smaller. | ||
| So 3.8% would be the best quarter going back to, and we have to go back a ways here, till 4.4, and that was the third quarter of 23. | ||
| Now, it is important to point out that if you look at the first quarter final, down half a percent, there's a balance there. | ||
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But the balance is moving in favor and momentum is moving in favor for better growth. | |
| Pink, you know, one thing that stands out to me as someone who is not as close to these types of issues as the two of you is with Trump so often, right, like the chaos is the point. | ||
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So he can publicly name and publicly shame and point fingers and get on X and post whatever he wants. | |
| It's incredibly difficult for the average American to keep up with, okay, this guy's in, this guy's out, this guy's indicted, Comey, what did he do again? | ||
| Right? | ||
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It all sort of collides together into this giant ball of chaos where what's happening is ultimately despicable. | |
| But the average American, I think, has a very difficult time even discerning what Trump is up to here. | ||
| Kevin, how would you assess the macro story today? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, the macro story right now is, first of all, that inflation has dropped sharply since President Trump took office. | ||
| Growth has been very high. | ||
| We've got industrial production at an all-time high, capital spending up 8% so far this year. | ||
| Mortgage rates are down in part because of the tariff revenues, down by about 70 basis points. | ||
| So the typical new homebuyer right now is saving $250 a month because of the lower interest rates because of these policies. | ||
| And the thing, when we go back and talk about the disappointing Fed policies that the president has talked about, you know, one of the things that I found odd, and Governor Myron has been talking about it, is that economic theorists know that if tariffs have any effect on prices, that it'll be a one-time adjustment, not an increase in inflation. | ||
| And to have Austin Goolsby and a lot of the other people that are on the FOMC talking about how inflation is why they're being so restrictive is contrary to fundamental economic policy, economic theory. | ||
| And I think that Governor Myron is just pointing that out. | ||
| And I actually see watching the Fed people discuss inflation at tariffs over the last few days that they're moving towards the consensus, which is the economic consensus, that if there were to be a price increase from tariffs, that it would not be inflationary. | ||
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It would be a one-time movement. | |
| And I think that's a good thing if you're optimistic about future rate cuts. | ||
| Rid of all the independent offices, whether it's inspectors general, prosecutors who are independent, federal commissioners, for example, on the FCC, central bankers, Federal Reserve, and you replace them with loyalists. | ||
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And then society beyond government. | |
| And we shouldn't forget about the courts. | ||
| The lower courts seem to be acting as an independent judiciary. | ||
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I'm a little worried that the Supreme Court has become a kind of firewall for the administration whenever there is a real, a direct legal threat to its power. | |
| And society itself begins to atrophy. | ||
| Even the press, we're here criticizing the administration. | ||
| I don't think they're going to be coming in and hauling us off to prison. | ||
| But journalists start asking themselves, what will be the consequences of this story? | ||
| Are we going to get sued the way the New York Times is now facing a $16 billion, utterly frivolous lawsuit? | ||
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Am I going to get investigated? | |
| Am I going to get named and abused publicly by the president, which brings a lot of hurt onto me, perhaps my family? | ||
| These questions start to gnaw. | ||
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And meanwhile, the major media are one by one falling under the control of the president's friends, which happened in Hungary, until eventually there's really not a whole lot of independent media left, some small outlets. | |
| So when I look, when you get beyond the days outrage to the kind of cascading effect of all of these erosions of checks, you begin to think, what's the limit to his power? | ||
| For me, it's largely his attention span. | ||
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So that describes authoritarianism, not the 20th century version that we all grew up studying and fearful of. | |
| A modern version that is more boring, more cynical, but to me just as dangerous because democracy has this blood in its system. | ||
| And if you cut off the blood flow, it starts to die. | ||
| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| Here's not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? | |
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band it's thursday 25 september in the year of our lord 2025 uh Our show today is absolutely packed. | ||
| We have Wade Miller on the government shutdown over from CRA. | ||
| Sean Davis from the Federalists joins us on just amazing articles talking about the political violence on the left. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks on the H-1B scam still continuing. | ||
| We've got David Lynch, who's written a magnificent book called The World's Worst Bet about Globalization, Its Rise and Fall. | ||
| David will join us in the second hour, as well as the Viceroy, Mike Davis, and then we're going to have Claire Dooley and Britt McHenry are going to be live from the symposium where the roundtable is going to take all afternoon. | ||
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We're going to carry it all over our platforms here in the war room and REV, Britt McHenry, a new reporter for them, is going to be covered in R ⁇ V, and then she'll be back at 5%. | |
| So much going on, so I want to break it down in pieces, and then we'll tie it all together. | ||
| Let's go with the economy first. | ||
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Joe Lafarnier from the Treasury Department joins us. | |
| Joe, now we're restating. | ||
| We found out that the Bureau of Labor Statistics has created a million and a half jobs under Biden's watch that didn't exist. | ||
| Now we're going back and recreating or updating the GDP and it's almost 4%. | ||
| You know, CNBC is like jaw-dropped. | ||
| It's 3.8% on the analysis of the last quarter. | ||
| The numbers are looking great, but people on the left are not happy. | ||
| The mainstream media is not happy because I think they're spinning the wrong numbers. | ||
| Your assessment, sir. | ||
| Yes, Steve, the economy, the fourth quarter actually was revised down a bit. | ||
| So you take that and the downward revisions to employment under the prior administration. | ||
| And the handoff to the president was nowhere near as solid and robust as many had thought just a few months ago. | ||
| But in the second quarter, when the president was fully in office for the entire quarter, we grew 3.8%. | ||
| It was led by consumer spending. | ||
| Consumer spending was running significantly faster than what was first reported, up 2.5%. | ||
| That's important, Steve, because I think there was excitement and optimism about the one big, beautiful bill being passed, which is benefiting blue-collar workers and no tax on tips, overtime. | ||
| All those things now, which are law and are being codified by IRS, make people excited. | ||
| We just recently, Steve, got very strong retail sales data, overlooked this morning our durable goods orders, which are booming. | ||
| That tells us third quarter was going to be running over 3%. | ||
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This golden era that the president has talked about is very much here. | |
| So these are excellent numbers and very consistent with the president's messaging out for forever. | ||
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Okay, so Scott, our old colleague here, would come on and talk about the big, beautiful bill. | |
| And actually, before he became Secretary of the Treasury for the years on here, and then we was working with President Trump on the campaign, said this is our last shot to get a supply-side tax cut that really focuses on production, capital to drive the economy forward. | ||
| The bet there was that we get to 3% to 3.5%. | ||
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What does this tell us right now? | |
| Is the new target? | ||
| I mean, I think Scott said a couple of times. | ||
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I think he even said it on the show. | |
| And I think you might say, hey, maybe get to 4%. | ||
| What is your current assessment of Treasury like third, fourth quarter, as you see it? | ||
| Because the CapEx is just starting to kick in right now, correct? | ||
| People are starting to build these facilities, plan the facilities, actually break ground on the facilities, sir? | ||
| In the first quarter, CapEx grew over 21%, and that's because the bill was designed to make things retroactive. | ||
| So companies excited about the Trump presidency already started to spend. | ||
| We grew over 8% in the second quarter. | ||
| So the outlook is really strong. | ||
| Productivity is accelerating. | ||
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Could we get the 4% growth? | |
| I mean, we had a big technological boom back in the late 90s, and you could argue what's happening now and all of President Trump's initiatives of encouraging foreign capital in with AI, crypto, all these potential newfangled innovations and industries. | ||
| Growth could be four. | ||
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If we get to three, Steve, which people don't think is possible, been poo-pooing that for a while, which was consistent with the first Trump term, we're going to do wonderful things. | |
| And if we could get better than that, even better. | ||
| But I think the point is the economy's back. | ||
| The president knows how to grow it, and he's going to grow it, Steve, in a way, and the secretary knows this as well. | ||
| Grow it in a way that's going to work for average working-class Americans, people who have suffered disproportionately over the past four years. | ||
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It's improving their living standards by lowering the cost of goods and services and raising their real wages. | |
| Last thing, I know you got to bounce. | ||
| Monetary policy. | ||
| This is why we had Hassett on. | ||
| Are we getting to a plan where monetary policy could actually dovetail with fiscal policy and the president's economic strategy so we can kind of all work together as one big happy family, sir? | ||
| You would think so, Steve. | ||
| I mean, I heard Steven's speech earlier in the week at the New York Economics Club. | ||
| It was excellent. | ||
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Kevin Hassett repeated that inflation is not driven by a potential one-off increase in the tariff level. | |
| So, yes, if monetary policy goes in the direction it's supposed to, and by the Fed's own admission, Steve, they say policy is tight, the economy could do even better. | ||
| And again, what we saw under President Trump's first term is strong growth for everyday Americans and low and stable prices. | ||
| There's no reason why it's not going to happen again, and the data this morning reinforced that very key narrative, sir. | ||
| What is your social media so folks can follow you? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| It is at LaVorne Unomics. | ||
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And of course, they could also link. | |
| There's a link there also to follow the Treasury Secretary, of course. | ||
| Yes, always, always get them to follow Scott. | ||
| Joe, thank you so much for taking time away. | ||
| I know you're busy today. | ||
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Thanks. | |
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thanks again. | ||
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Monetary policy coming from the Federal Reserve, our central bank. | |
| Fiscal policy coming from the administration. | ||
| Folks, take your number two pencil out. | ||
| Our cold shots going to work here. | ||
| Old government shut down at midnight on the 30th, or I guess one minute after midnight, run out of money. | ||
| Russ Vote, OMB, the great Russ Vote might have been thinking about this for a while. | ||
| Wade Miller from CRA joins us after a short commercial break. | ||
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| If you're on Getter, earlier, my next two guests, in fact, my next three guests, Wade Miller, CRA, you've gotten all the reports, politico and everything else. | ||
| They put up a little commentary about the shutdown, Sean Davis, the Federalists on fire. | ||
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I think the intellectual center of gravity of the populist nationalist movement, incredible, incredible, incredible pieces on this political violence. | |
| Of course, Rosemary Janks on the H-1B scam that we'll all get into. | ||
| And then we've got, and this is, look, Erdogan showing up today at supposed to be 11. | ||
| I'm sure it's going to be a little bit late. | ||
| We've got Lynch, one of the top economic reporters from the Washington Post with an amazing book on the rise and fall of globalization that is a must-read if you want to understand the whole history of it and the personalities and everything that went on. | ||
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So he'll be on Mike Davis. | |
| We're going to try to get it all in. | ||
| When I talk about monetary fiscal policy, is Lula coming to the White House? | ||
| Maybe it's a phone call next week. | ||
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And somebody, can somebody, the president's staff, please give him Lula's speech that Lula had right before the president walked up there because he's trashing all of President Trump's policies. | |
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It's the process. | |
| So Wade Miller, I think the Democrats have now walked into a trap they set for themselves kind of because they're arguing that unless President Trump agrees essentially, and Miller said this last night, I think over at Fox, unless the Republicans agree and the president agrees to continue to fund illegal alien health care, healthcare for illegal aliens, they're just not going to vote on anything and shut the government down. | ||
| Now, I realize people are out of town, but Russ Vogt has just ruined their dreams of chop blocking the Trump, the Trump revolution by saying, you know, this is very interesting because this really, you know, as OMB director, I think we have essential and non-essential workers, and I think the agencies ought to be prepared for, quote, mass firings, unquote. | ||
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Brother Wade Miller, we got to get our hands around this fiscal policy. | |
| You know, even the Clean CR, House Freedom Caucus supported it, we kind of said, hey, if you got to do it, you got to do it because Russ vote's saying, I got rescissions, I got pocket rescissions, I got impoundments. | ||
| I'm going to start cutting away at this thing. | ||
| But now we're talking about mass firings. | ||
| We're finally getting to what Doge kind of attempted to do. | ||
| How real is this, sir? | ||
| Well, I think it's very real, and it's an amazing own goal by Democrats and a strategic failure on their part. | ||
| Republicans were basically ready to fund government at current levels. | ||
| And of course, that wasn't good enough for them. | ||
| So they're heading towards the shutdown. | ||
| And I don't think that they really understood the mindset of the Trump administration towards woke waste, woke weaponizing wasteful government. | ||
| Because essentially on September 30th, October 1st, there is no appropriation in place. | ||
| So, you know, in past shutdowns, presidents have decided to furlough, but there's no requirement to furlough. | ||
| The Trump administration can instead just start firing on large-scale woke. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| This is so key. | ||
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This is absolutely. | |
| This is what I say. | ||
| This trap was set. | ||
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In the past, you could kind of, and they did. | |
| They kind of played FTSE. | ||
| That's why he just had a couple of park rangers that maybe took a day off or something, right? | ||
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This is totally completely different. | |
| What Rose Vote's saying, hey, at midnight on the 30th, it runs out, baby. | ||
| The new fiscal year starts at one in the morning on the 1st of October, and we got no money. | ||
| We have no appropriations. | ||
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We have nothing. | |
| So I've got to go to all non-essential workers. | ||
| I'm not going to furlough them. | ||
| I'm going to fire them. | ||
| Is that essentially Russ Vote's plan? | ||
| Well, yes, if there's no appropriation in place, then the President of the United States has a significant amount of authority to eliminate spending to comport with the lack of that appropriation, minus security, things that are life-saving national defense. | ||
| But otherwise, the president has a broad amount of authority. | ||
| And if the president authorizes OMB Director Russ Vogt to put that plan in place, they can take a wrecking ball to a lot of these bureaucracies that are unnecessary and are just elevating the debt, serving no public purpose. | ||
| So in that respect, just legally and statutorily, I don't understand what the Democrats are thinking. | ||
| And I'm kind of glad that they're this inept. | ||
| Russ has always been very aggressive about this. | ||
| Do you have a sense of the white? | ||
| It seems from Politico and these other stories, the White House, I mean, everybody's moving forward because Russ is not a guy to get out over his skis. | ||
| Do you anticipate now that this, because I think it's technically too late to get everybody back together before the 30th, right? | ||
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I think it's first of all, you'd have to do it a couple of days in advance, but I don't think the House is back until next week, right? | |
| So are we marching forward in unison? | ||
| They could come back. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But you didn't got the Senate. | ||
| I mean, there's no, but the Democrats have laid down that they're not prepared to back President Trump's current plan, that it has to be, you know, health care for illegal aliens. | ||
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So where do you think we stand with the administration on actually doing this is maximalist strategy? | |
| What do you think? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What do you think the probability here is? | ||
| Rust is one of the most loyal people I have ever met, and he truly believes that his job is to serve the interests of the president, not his own agenda. | ||
| So if Russ Vogt is out there talking about this, that tells me it's almost a certainty that the White House has approved this. | ||
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It would be extremely unlikely for Russ to ever do anything that he didn't think the president would support or had authorized. | |
| So that tells me that this is a very likely outcome should a shutdown occur. | ||
| And look, the left can throw a hissy fit and say they're going to sue, but I don't understand from a legal perspective how they would be able to stop in a shutdown where there's no appropriation in place the firing of bureaucracies and bureaucrats that are unnecessary in a government shutdown scenario that have nothing to do with national defense, life-saving measures, or security apparatuses. | ||
| We've talked about it on the show for the last couple of weeks. | ||
| Russ has been signaling essential versus non-essential, essential versus non-essential. | ||
| Do you have any sense right now of the scale that we're talking about? | ||
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I don't, but there's a lot of bureaucracies out there that I know that the president and other cabinet secretaries, and remember, this is not just for us to vote. | |
| This would be all cabinet secretaries tasked with identifying weaponized and wasteful bureaucracies within their areas of responsibility. | ||
| So it would be all hands-on deck effort to identify. | ||
| So my guess is it would be significant. | ||
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Wade, where do you go? | |
| By the way, I sat in my office in the West Wing next to the president, or right next to the one down from the president, with Russ Vogue, then deputy in May of 2017. | ||
| And he whiteboarded out the waterfall, how cash came in on the debt ceiling. | ||
| And also we were heading towards a government, potential government shutdown in September. | ||
| And Russ had thought it through back then. | ||
| He's refined it. | ||
| I mean, this guy, he is the perfect OMB pick, the perfect right hand for the president. | ||
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Wade, where do folks go to find out more about CRA and also follow you on social media because you guys are on top of the story like nobody else? | |
| Sure. | ||
| Americarenewing.com is our website. | ||
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And my social media handles on X is Wade Miller underscore USMC. | |
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
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Thanks for having me on. | |
| Okay, prepare for Russ Vote. | ||
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Russ Vote's going to get eviscerated. | |
| He'll go front and center. | ||
| It's his turning the barrel starting probably this afternoon with MSNBC and CNN, New York Times, Washington Post. | ||
| This guy's cruel. | ||
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He's a Christian nationalist. | |
| He's this. | ||
| He's that. | ||
| Hey, they had every opportunity to work with President Trump. | ||
| And now they're saying, well, the logic, last night with Stephanie Rule, they had this guy. | ||
| Well, the logic's worked against it because the president can't be, yo, the Democrats came up with demands that the president said there's no need to sit down. | ||
| If this is what you're demanding, you can't negotiate that. | ||
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And you've said you're demanding it, so no need to meet. | |
| Remember, the fiscal part of this, we still have to get our arms around. | ||
| It's still, I believe, too much of a Keynesian stimulus because the deficit, I think, on the 30th, as I've said, I thought was $2 trillion. | ||
| It's going to be 1.9. | ||
| I think we could get to 2 if it's all appropriately accounted for. | ||
| You got to deal with that. | ||
| That has to be dealt with. | ||
| Russ has got a plan for rescissions, pocket rescuions, impoundment, because the folks on Capitol Hill are not, they're not equipped to deal with the problems. | ||
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Remember the whole single subject spending bills and appropriations bills? | |
| We're here where we are. | ||
| The best alternative, I know this audience is wildly enthused about that, is a CR that goes to 21st of November, 21 November. | ||
| That looks like that's not going to happen. | ||
| Nobody's around. | ||
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They're trying to call the president's bluff. | |
| And he's going to bring out the heavy siege guns. | ||
| He's got Russ Vote. | ||
| And Russ Vote, the brothers got a plan. | ||
| And this is really going to take a meat axe to the administrative state. | ||
| As Russ Vote has thought this thing through for years and years and years, the folks over Heritage helped him with Project 2025. | ||
| Many people worked on this. | ||
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So I kept telling you, essential versus non-essential. | |
| And the lovers of big government over the Democratic Party are going to be shocked at what's determined to be non-essential. | ||
| Short break, the great Sean Davis and the Federalists next. | ||
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And the response we've got is amazing. | |
| You don't need to know math. | ||
| You don't need to have taken any economics courses in college. | ||
| None of it. | ||
| We made it totally accessible to the war room posse. | ||
| And the feedback we've got is extraordinary. | ||
| Okay, Sean Davis. | ||
| The Federalist. | ||
| I want to first thank you. | ||
| First of all, we have two articles specifically, but the whole thing I want you to take. | ||
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The two articles, one, you've got an amazing article, three more left-wing attacks follow Charlie Kirk's murder, which is really about how the media is goading this on and is an active partner in this. | |
| It's extraordinary. | ||
| Then you go back with an amazing piece about the legacy of John Brown and how the left is using this. | ||
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Andrew Colvet had on his Twitter feed a handout at Georgetown University, of which I'm a graduate of, that had, hey, catch this fascist, right, about the bullet. | |
| That's one of the things on the bullet that assassinated Charlie Kirk. | ||
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And it's put out by the John Brown, I guess, John Brown Society or some new society. | |
| First of all, I want to thank you. | ||
| You've been the intellectual center, your site, the Federalists, with so many amazing articles every day from just top-line thinkers and writers that if we didn't have you right now in this movement, I don't know where we'd be. | ||
| I point people to the Federalists all the time because you provide the intellectual kind of framework of the fight that we're in. | ||
| And it's a fight. | ||
| So Sean Davis, can you talk to those two pieces then overall this moment in American history and where we are? | ||
| Yes, we had two great pieces. | ||
| The first was from John Davidson, looking at the terrorist legacy of John Brown. | ||
| And make no mistake, John Brown was a terrorist. | ||
| He went and butchered innocent people in the cause of abolition, which is a good cause. | ||
| But the definition of terrorism is using violence against non-combatants in order to bring about political change. | ||
| It's not guerrilla warfare. | ||
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It's not conventional warfare. | |
| It's killing innocent people to terrify a populace into doing what you want them to do. | ||
| That's what John Brown did. | ||
| And now John Brown has become something of an icon for these ugly gay communists who style themselves as anti-fascists. | ||
| They've decided that they're not the communists going out and murdering people in the street for Marxist ideals. | ||
| No, they have in their heads this idea that they're just trying to go and free the slaves. | ||
| And therefore, just like John Brown thought, they can do anything they want. | ||
| They can kill anyone they want. | ||
| They can perpetrate any violence they want to whatever ends they want. | ||
| And then the second article we had was a spectacular one from Breck and Tees about all of the additional left-wing terrorist attacks we've had since Charlie Kirk was murdered. | ||
| I believe our headline was that there were three terrorist attacks. | ||
| I think we can add a fourth because I think there were a bunch of terrorists who went and shot a little league coach while he was praying last night or the day before. | ||
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And, you know, I like hearing what I'm hearing from the administration about, you know, they're calling the terrorists what they are. | |
| They're calling the violence what it is. | ||
| I kind of think the time for talk is over. | ||
| It's been two weeks, two weeks and a day since Charlie was killed. | ||
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The time for talk is over. | |
| The time to roll up these terrorist Antifa networks that are out there openly calling for and executing violence on us. | ||
| The time for that nonsense is over. | ||
| So like they need to get cracking and quit talking because lives are at stake. | ||
| Our lives are at stake, and we can't stand for this nonsense anymore. | ||
| The president had to put out a tweet or a True Social last week directed to Pam to say, hey, look, I don't know what's happening here, but you got Brennan and these guys on TV still doing smack talk, and they all should be in prison. | ||
| What's happening? | ||
| And part of that was driven, I think, by Comey not being indicted and the statute of limitations running out next week. | ||
| We know that the FBI has now designated these transgender militias, these radicals, and trust me, they are radical, violent militias, NVEs, nihilistic, violent extremists. | ||
| In the categorization, it gives them a broader range of things to go after. | ||
| Also, we designated Antifa on Monday, President Trump coming back from Charlie Kirk's commemoration or funeral service, however you want to call it, saying, hey, where is this thing to designate Antifa terrorist organization, which gives you a broad toolbox, not just to go after the first level of the frontmen and the guys in the black block and all that crowd, but the second tier of people that train them. | ||
| Many of those come from the United States military. | ||
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You just got to understand that and from our national security apparatus and from the intelligence apparatus. | |
| And then the most important is all the foundations that give money, all the media works with partners, and all the billionaires, the sources, and all those guys throughout the world that finance this crap. | ||
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What do you anticipate? | |
| You say it's time talks over. | ||
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We had Glenn Young last night filling in for Charlie and Megan Kelly. | |
| Is that aspect of what Charlie was trying to do over? | ||
| Are you saying, hey, on a macro level, we got to throw the gauntlet down and stop putting up with this crap? | ||
| Yeah, and I actually think Trump needs to go a step further. | ||
| I think it's great that he's designated Antifa and all the little tentacles from that as domestic terrorist organizations. | ||
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I actually think there's more than enough evidence and information to actually designate them as foreign terrorist organizations because that opens up an even bigger and more powerful toolbox. | |
| We know they get a lot of their money from overseas. | ||
| We know they get a lot of organization and help from Germany, from within Europe. | ||
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So I think Trump needs to go even further and treat them as the not just domestic, but foreign-funded and organized terrorist organizations that they are. | |
| We're looking at an ISIS equivalent. | ||
| We are looking at people who are highly organized. | ||
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They operate in cells. | |
| They all have the same goals. | ||
| They're trained, whether it's by former U.S. military or foreign military, to go out and perpetrate violence. | ||
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They need to go and they need to be crushed. | |
| And I think that means going and doing raids on these people who are trying to seize and run sieges against federal courthouses, against federal buildings. | ||
| These are terrorist organizations. | ||
| We need to treat them like we treated Al-Qaeda and ISIS and every other group out there. | ||
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It's not enough just to have executive orders. | |
| We actually need to have people going after them, hauling them in, taking them off the streets. | ||
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And most importantly, they need to have their financing networks absolutely destroyed. | |
| You're going to see people that were either former government officials or in the government today. | ||
| You're going to see financiers, all of it, media, politicians, all of it. | ||
| You got to go start kicking down some doors. | ||
| I could not agree with you more. | ||
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Sean Davis, last thing. | |
| The pressure on Federalists to crush the Federalists and to get you guys shut down. | ||
| How intense is it, sir? | ||
| Oh, it's extremely intense. | ||
| There has been an extremely well-coordinated and financed operation coming after us really since we began uncovering the Russia hoax, but it was kicked into overdrive in February of 2021. | ||
| Facebook worked to crush us. | ||
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Google worked to crush us. | |
| YouTube made sure nobody ever saw our videos. | ||
| None of them have apologized. | ||
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None of them have offered restitution. | |
| It's the kind of thing that costs us millions and millions and millions of dollars. | ||
| As you know, running a media organization to tell the truth and to go against the left is not a cheap thing. | ||
| It costs money. | ||
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We have to hire people. | |
| We have to hire editors. | ||
| And the entire left-wing movement, the entire Democrat power apparatus has been focused on crushing us. | ||
| We're not going anywhere, but my goodness, is it a fight trying to just stay alive when you have all of the forces of evil in this world trying to crush you? | ||
| Sean Davis, where should people go right now to follow you on social media and where they go get the Federalists? | ||
| Folks, you got to make this part of your media diet every morning. | ||
| It's the intellectual kind of framing mechanism we have. | ||
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Where do they go, Sean? | |
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| They should go to thefederalists.com. | ||
| We're actually running a matching campaign right now. | ||
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So every dollar people put in up to $100,000, we've had a donor who will match it dollar for dollar. | |
| It's really important for us to get that kind of support. | ||
| And then, number two, they can find me on X at Sean M D A V S E A N M D A V Sean Davis. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Keep the fight, man. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| This is very dangerous. | ||
| 100% correct. | ||
| This is terrorism. | ||
| I'll get more information. | ||
| They shot that little league coach shot him, praying. | ||
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I think there's going to be some announcements. | |
| There's supposed to be a news conference this afternoon about what happened down in Dallas. | ||
| Once again, like in a progressive mother, babying these grown men and what they do to go out there and shooting people with high-powered rifles is snipers. | ||
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And then because they have such great backgrounds in, you know, in religion and the Judeo-Christian West, they commit suicide, they shoot themselves. | |
| It's a fine mess they made, but that doesn't have to destroy the United States of America. | ||
| You're having a color revolution run on you, and there are people standing up saying, We've had enough and we're not going to tolerate it. | ||
| And I don't care how much the mainstream media, there's nothing to talk about. | ||
| This is not a debate anymore. | ||
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All they're doing in the media is pushing this, saying, Oh, Trump's an authoritarian. | |
| Trump said, Fine, say what you want. | ||
| It's time to shut it down. | ||
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You've got the tools. | |
| I agree with the foreign, the major terrorism. | ||
| Get more, get more tools, but shut it down. | ||
| Let's start kicking down some doors. | ||
| FBI was pretty, they kicked down doors on the abortion people. | ||
| We got a bunch of grandmothers in prison. | ||
| I know because in my prison, and I went in a camp of the prison I was in, the unbelievable, the holiest people I've ever met, folks in their 60s and 70s, because they prayed the rosary outside of an abortion clit, and they're in a federal prison, doors kicked down by the FBI, Merrick Garland sent them to prison. | ||
| Why is Merrick Garland not in prison? | ||
| Why is Lisa Monaco? | ||
| Well, she's at Microsoft, the general care. | ||
| Why is she not in prison? | ||
| It's time to take the gloves off and stop screwing around with this. | ||
| Let's get on with it. | ||
| And you can see, don't take it from me. | ||
| Do not take it from me. | ||
| The frustration of President Trump when he's got to send a public message to his attorney general, like, get off, you know, I need some action here. | ||
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And first off, Halligani installed in Eastern District. | |
| And hey, I guess she's bringing the indictment on Comey. | ||
| Although last night during Lawrence O'Donnell, they said there's an eternal memo now coming from three career prosecutors. | ||
| No, you can't do it. | ||
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It's not going to hold up in court, et cetera, et cetera. | |
| Rosemary Jenks, we've got about a minute and a half here. | ||
| I'm going to hold you through the break. | ||
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H-1Bs and particularly Senator Grassley, where do we stand with this mess that Howard Luttnick didn't explain kind of misled the president, misled the country, misled Wall Street, misled folks in India. | |
| Give me a minute on this before we go to break and I'll bring you back. | ||
| Yeah, Senator Grassley is exactly right. | ||
| The only way, and he didn't actually connect these in his tweet, but the only way that Secretary Luttnick's plan works is if you end OPT, because the fee for the $100,000 fee does not apply to people who are in the country and adjust from one status to another. | ||
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And the most common is from OPT to H-1B. | |
| So all the Microsofts and Amazons and all of those are going to use that in-country adjustment to avoid the fee. | ||
| The only people will be paying it will be the body shops unless they're rid of OPT. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Lutnick, you're a sleazy bond salesman, and that might have worked when you're at your sleazy bucket shop selling these crappy bonds to the unsuspecting, but it don't work here. | ||
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You've lied and tried to sell a bill of goods to the president of the United States and the American people. | |
| And it is unacceptable. | ||
| And you are unacceptable. | ||
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It's a clown show. | |
| So we're going to break it all down for you and thank God for Senator Grassley. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| By the way, you know, we had Pat Veloski on last night, and Chris, because of this YouTube and Google thing, and remember, here in the world, we want to break up Google. | ||
| We don't want to work with it. | ||
| We want to break it up. | ||
| We built one of the most largest and most powerful shows in all media, and we're banned everywhere on all the big platforms. | ||
| I had that happen. | ||
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It was Real America's voice and our ability and grace and our ability just to get the content and you as force multipliers. | |
| Well, YouTube, oh, we're going to let Bongino Banner back on. | ||
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I said, hey, F you. | |
| Zero interest. | ||
| I think the report is Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes actually put up YouTube channels last night. | ||
| Guess what? | ||
| Taken down right away. | ||
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That's what Pat Vlasky is telling me or showing me. | |
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Rosemary Jenks, this was a bait and switch. | ||
| It's a bait and switch. | ||
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The reason is Reed Hastings and all these guys at Netflix, all the big shots are coming out saying this is wonderful. | |
| It's a solution. | ||
| So if those demons like it, you know it's bad. | ||
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H-1B visas are a total and complete scam. | |
| And it's an insult to the kids and young men and women that went through all the training, everything to say that their foreign workers are better. | ||
| They're not better. | ||
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No one's ever showed me one billet that we didn't have the education and the job experience to do. | |
| It is a scam to destroy American workers by big corporations and the oligarchs whose greed is unlimited, unbound. | ||
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What they want is to pay people slave wages and have them live as indentured servants. | |
| It's not acceptable, and we are going to get this program shut down. | ||
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Now, talk about the first off, he lied about everything in the Oval Office. | |
| If any other guy had ever done it, be fired immediately. | ||
| This is not a tiny program, and it's not a small issue. | ||
| It's a central issue for American citizens. | ||
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And he sits there in the Oval and just lies. | |
| Oh, it's an annual thing. | ||
| All this money we're going to generate to shut the deficit. | ||
| Just bald-faced lies. | ||
| This is not a myth. | ||
| This is a bald-faced lie. | ||
| Then the most important part is OPT. | ||
| Tell people what that terminology means. | ||
| What's the concept? | ||
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And why is it they're sneaky? | |
| It's Lutnick's sneaky workaround here with his corporate buddies in Silicon Valley, ma'am. | ||
| So, OPT stands for optional practical training, and it is a scheme that was cooked up under W. Bush to allow foreign students, once they've graduated, to remain in the United States and take a job. | ||
| They don't have to pay FICA taxes. | ||
| The employer doesn't have to pay FICA taxes for them. | ||
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So, that's basically a 7.5% discount for employers to hire them over American students. | |
| And then, Obama actually expanded the program for STEM OPT to three years instead of one year. | ||
| So, these foreign students get three years at a discount for the employer to essentially find an employer to sponsor them for an H-1B. | ||
| And since they're already in the country, they're not going to have to pay this fee. | ||
| Now, I'm going to step out of bounds here, Steve, and say that I don't actually believe that Secretary Luttnick was lying. | ||
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I think that he doesn't understand immigration law. | |
| And I think he probably believes everything he said, or at least did. | ||
| Okay, hold it. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| Then hang on, hang on. | ||
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Okay, fine. | |
| I say he should be fired for lying. | ||
| You say he should be fired for being a moron because the commerce secretary doesn't understand. | ||
| This is not esoteric. | ||
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This is central. | |
| And that's why, knowing Lutnick and knowing what a sleazy bond salesman he was, right? | ||
| This is the kind of bait and so which he does. | ||
| But look, I'll go with you. | ||
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Let's say he wasn't lying. | |
| But if this is the case, he's too dumb to be the commerce secretary. | ||
| So pick it. | ||
| He's either a liar and should be fired or he's too dumb and should be fired. | ||
| Either way, he tried to screw and he's screwing American workers. | ||
| Is he not, ma'am? | ||
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You know, I don't think that is his intention. | |
| I think the H-1B program needs to be eliminated, full stop. | ||
| I think he is trying to make it microscopically better, but it's not going to work. | ||
| And it's not going to work because of the complexities of immigration law. | ||
| And, you know, I don't think he included the Department of Homeland Security in coming up with this order or the gold card order for that matter. | ||
| And the fact is, they're just not going to work because of how complicated the law is and how many workarounds there are for these big employers who don't want to pay a fee, don't want to hire Americans, and can get away with it still under this order. | ||
| You see what a nice person and a good person Rosemary Jenks is. | ||
| You're a good person. | ||
| You're a nice person. | ||
| But you damned him so by the way, the gold card's not right. | ||
| He didn't talk to you. | ||
| You didn't include DHS. | ||
| It's got to be central. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Listen, here's the bottom line. | ||
| The bottom line is that people like yourself that go about it very methodically and don't get all worked up and say, hey, no, this is where you're wrong. | ||
| Bing, bing, bing. | ||
| And Senator Grassley, who's an old war horse and from Iowa, has got that kind of common sense out there in the great heartland of this nation, right? | ||
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You guys think this say, hey, neither one of these work. | |
| They're not even close to coordinating with existing law. | ||
| But more importantly, they're just kind of all workarounds. | ||
| When Reed Hasting comes out, Reed Hasting, who hates the president of the United States more than anything, when he comes out and says, Yeah, I think this is great. | ||
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It's really going to work. | |
| You know that the big shots in Silicon Valley works for them. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| So, what's your recommendation now how we get this shut down, particularly backing Senator Grassley and what he's doing, ma'am? | ||
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Well, so we need to stop OPT. | |
| And because it was created by Executive Fiat, the administration can stop it dead in its tracks today. | ||
| Just a stroke of the pen could stop OPT. | ||
| But more importantly, we've got to eliminate H-1B. | ||
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And by the way, I don't know if you have seen this, but Senator Banks has introduced a bill that doesn't end H-1B, but it does eliminate OPT. | |
| It raises the base salary for H-1B to $150,000, which is almost double its current salary. | ||
| It makes a lot of changes that would make a big difference and would definitely cut out the body shops and the people who abuse it most. | ||
| So that's a step, but we need to eliminate it. | ||
| Ma'am, you're fantastic. | ||
| I'm going to send everybody to your site so they can get up to speed on this. | ||
| Where do they go, Rosemary? | ||
| Social media and your site. | ||
| Iaproject.org is our website, our twitter account. | ||
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Just look for Immigration Accountability Project. | |
| You'll find us on on x, on youtube, on everything. | ||
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Um, we haven't been banned yet but we're working on it. | |
| You're, you're. | ||
| You're a happy warrior and a good person and a decent person. | ||
| So thank you so much for coming on. | ||
| Dave Bratt, by the way, is on our board. | ||
| Folks think about where we were at the fight with Elon back in. | ||
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Hey the the, it's trust the process we're getting there. | |
| Eliminate this scam, all of. | ||
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Stop taking jobs away from American kids, men and women who have worked their entire life to get into this space. | |
| It's unacceptable. | ||
| Unacceptable. | ||
| And let foreign students take their jobs, incredibly unacceptable. |
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