Sept. 16, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
| Because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. | ||
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
| Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | ||
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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Warum. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Banks. | ||
| It is Monday, the 15th of September in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| And we've got a lot to go through in this hour. | ||
| I want to thank everybody for sticking around for the second hour of the late afternoon, early evening edition of The War Room. | ||
| We got Phil Lyman on who was an eyewitness to events, uh, a former candidate for governor in the great state of Utah. | ||
| Uh de Grasse is going to jump in here. | ||
| He's got a bolt at five at 6 30. | ||
| We're going to get to Grossen to talk about Indiana 9-0. | ||
| Politico's lead story this morning on the must read um uh playbook was about uh Indiana on Saturday. | ||
| Uh Senator Banks, uh Raheem Kassam, and of course, Alex de Grasse organizing that about uh Indiana 9-0 as it is a litmus test for what's going on right now in the maximalization strategy. | ||
| And of course, Dr. Bradley Thayer's helped us uh put together a thinking about uh Antifa and other these organizations as domestic terrorist organizations. | ||
| You heard the president from the Oval Office just moments ago saying that hey, he's gonna he's open to designating them, and then later says, I am gonna designate this. | ||
| So you've got Steven Miller and Cash Patel and Um Pam Bondi uh and Todd Blanch, everybody I'm sure working on this even as we speak. | ||
| So Mark Mark, you you you're towards the back, you're about to go get your friends, you're gonna walk into the building. | ||
| I take it uh the building is right next to the Low C center, so Lo C center is kind of one removed, but you're you can see back in that amphitheater, you're going inside. | ||
| You hear a loud bang, right? | ||
| You hear it a loud bang, and what do you do? | ||
| You stop going downstairs, you turn and go back out into the open space? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So I stopped, looked that look around for a couple of seconds in the doorway, and I just turn around and walk right right back out. | ||
| And and my and my first objective is to like confirm, was that a gunshot? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And so you start seeing the chaos. | ||
| It's like, okay, this is a gunshot. | ||
| And then I walked over to the uh to the the closest people to this to that spot where I was at, like trying to get some confirmation to these. | ||
| So walk over to these uh two girls who were standing leaning over the leaning over the railing and and kind of watching the crowd scatter. | ||
| And uh and and the uh I guess the chilling part of that, Steve, as I stepped up there, and it wasn't chilling at the time because I was I had one thing I was just trying to find out did that gunshot, is that a gunshot? | ||
| Did it come from up here? | ||
| And as I stepped up there, I just heard one of the girls over here, she was just talking to her friend and she's looking at these fleeing kids down there running for their lives, and she said, go fuck yourselves. | ||
| And um, you know, not to me, but to her friend. | ||
| And I thought, and so I and I just jumped in. | ||
| I said, did that shot come from here? | ||
| Wasn't that right here? | ||
| And she said, yeah, it was right over there, which was into an open area, and I looked over and I couldn't see anything. | ||
| And I didn't think a whole lot about it uh until later, but there was some disdain there, and I thought you know, maybe maybe I misunderstood. | ||
| Maybe she's talking to uh, you know, somebody that she thinks was was the shoot or something, there's some contempt there. | ||
| So it was you know, looking at my videos and stuff afterwards, because I had this, I was on, I was on tape, and it's like, yeah, that's that's what she said, and I and I thought that's an interesting that's an interesting uh reaction and and really the lack of reaction. | ||
| It's like why are you not ducking down? | ||
| Why are you not afraid? | ||
| Uh you're young, you got a lot of life ahead of you. | ||
| I was you know, I honestly I looked up, I'm thinking I'm I'm here with a bunch of College kids and I'm an old dude and I'm gonna go out there. | ||
| And if there's a shooter, I want to stop him from shooting somebody else. | ||
| And a lot of those kids were they like say they were running for their lives and they were screaming and uh it was a strange thing to say to a group of what I would think would be your peers and have a little bit of empathy for them. | ||
| Was there any other because there was kind of mass chaos after what is supposed to be the shot, the loud bang. | ||
| Um did um were there any other groups that looked like uh they were not perturbed by it, that they weren't fleeing in mass chaos or mass, you know, just being afraid for if really running for their lives. | ||
| There were a few. | ||
| There were there were a few you know, clusters of people that that were in my mind noticeably not reacting. | ||
| And uh and maybe they maybe they weren't you know tuned into what the threat was. | ||
| I I don't know how they couldn't be because it was it was really chaotic. | ||
| Um yeah, there were a couple of other groups that that just seemed to be more interested in in kind of the spectator side of this. | ||
| But in something like that, in the normal reaction that could be this could be a mass casualty they could like in Minneapolis, he let off 115, I think rounds. | ||
| The natural human thing, like you saw by the way, the the the young men and women, particularly the young men fleeing, were you know, look like kind of your jocks? | ||
| It's a natural human reaction to like, let's get out of here until something's figured out. | ||
| Wouldn't it strike you as very odd that people were just kind of not didn't look like they were feared for their lives? | ||
| Especially, especially where I was standing, because that really there was a huge bang there. | ||
| And and pretty soon the the cops, you know, the undercover cops running through there saying, Where's the shooter? | ||
| Where's the shirt shooter? | ||
| What'd you see? | ||
| What'd you see? | ||
| And you know, people are saying, Yeah, I think it's it's it's close by, and that's I'm thinking he's probably on the roof, not shooting, so probably done shooting, probably leaving the scene by now. | ||
| And that was a the that was of the Sorensen building. | ||
| And then when they showed showed the uh actual thing, it was it was just east of there, which is really really close as well, still kind of above our heads, but a little bit further back. | ||
| Um and yeah, that that if you're in that spot and there was a lot of people who were running into the building who were crouching down behind the uh the center block or the uh the concrete retaining things, a lot of places to to take cover, and and it was noticeable noticeable that some of them were not taking cover. | ||
| Phil, um I take it you've you've tried to talk to the authorities, but it hasn't gotten traction yet, but you're open to talk to the authorities and tell them everything you know. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No, I sent I sent all my fit my video footage uh, you know, to um to the FBI uh yeah, involved with a lot of other people uh who reached out to me and you know, sh sharing stuff with me. | ||
| So I forwarded everything that I that I that I could. | ||
| And I and I will tell you it didn't it didn't dawn on me that there could have been a like an a pre-knowledge for some of these people until after we started questioning, you know, was that really the shooter? | ||
| Was there really a person on the roof? | ||
| Watching that video of him coming off the roof, you know, which we didn't get till like two days later, and and saying this this is not adding up. | ||
| Stuff is not adding up, and that's when it kind of and again going back through my videos and watching, I was like, that that is out of place. | ||
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That was a really out of place response. | |
| Well, well, I I tell you what, Phil, I want to put a pin in because I want to get to the videos and all of your you were an eye witness and thought you saw it, but then I and this is why I keep telling the FBI guys and others, we just can't dribbing drive this out. | ||
| We shouldn't hurt the investigation by putting out maybe too much details, but they're on Fox and other places, putting out kind of every other, you know, every half hour you get another group. | ||
| You have to have a briefing. | ||
| If particularly have to address these videos. | ||
| Hang on for one second. | ||
| I got to get Alex de Grasse in here. | ||
| Um, because Alex has got a bounce. | ||
| DeGrasse, um the uh event on Saturday, particularly given the tragedy, was next level. | ||
| And I gotta tell you the intensity. | ||
| I want to everybody in the war and posse that's out there as a hoosier in Indiana, you guys are the best. | ||
| You're you're the you're the you're the backbone of the country. | ||
| And particularly when you have a political class that is, you know, maybe not as MAGA as uh as as the voters and the workers out there really want to thank uh Senator Banks, who is uh about as based as you can get. | ||
| Uh where do we stand? | ||
| Because the rally cry, and I want to tell you, we were overwhelmed by the crowd response. | ||
| I mean, the war imposse, the standing ovations, what they what they did when Raheem was talking, we had the Tommy Robinson up. | ||
| So, where do we stand? | ||
| Because as political, you had Adam Wren, who's about as smart a political reporter as in uh all of DC was out there. | ||
| The political guys thought with everything going on, it's the lead story in in uh in playbook because they understand that this is an important story about where the country is. | ||
| So, what is happening now? | ||
| Uh, but it's it's gotta be nine-o, not eight to one. | ||
| This is a litmus test of the maximalization, the maximalist strategy, and also the Trump movement. | ||
| So, where are we on Monday afternoon after that great conference you had the other day? | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| Well, Steve, thank you. | ||
| It was amazing. | ||
| And then I'll tell you what, people were fired up. | ||
| We surprised them with obviously we beamed in the show from the stage, and people went absolutely crazy. | ||
| And it was hundreds of people, Steve, over 500 who showed up on a Saturday for and essentially eight hours of of working conferences and strategy sessions and some pump up stuff. | ||
| And most importantly, obviously we're pushing 9 0, Steve. | ||
| And I think I think the the lead of the story, obviously, is that the grassroots is not going to take it anymore, right? | ||
| I mean, people, I mean, you have a senator, you have Brochwitz, you have major players saying, hey, least we can do here is move the ball forward for Charlie. | ||
| I mean, people are expecting nothing less. | ||
| I mean, you know, I think sort of reflecting on everything that went down. | ||
| Charlie obviously would have wanted us to be there, and and there was talk, people some people were nervous, and that we understand, of course. | ||
| And and we decided obviously to press forward to to keep this ball moving forward because this is this could well could determine everything, obviously, in the House. | ||
| As we've spoken about at first, Steve, on the show, we were talking about 8 1. | ||
| Now we're obviously talking about 9-0. | ||
| I think there is a lot of unknown. | ||
| I think it's really important for Indiana for the posse to lock in calmly and positively communicate with your state representatives, with your state senators, educate them on what was discussed on the show. | ||
| Maybe we can send out, we'll clip kind of our presentation and get that to you some grayson folks can kind of get it out to folks on your lists and whatever. | ||
| Just to add because we I we had a conversation with three of the state representatives who kind of walk through the backroom deals and kind of what's at stake here. | ||
| And I think people would be concerned, of course, these uh state houses are very challenging with the establishment across the country. | ||
| Um, but Indiana certainly has, I think, some issues with the kind of Mitch Daniel, Mike Pence. | ||
| You know, it really is a big battle, tectonic battle for the direction of the party. | ||
| So I think we need to push forward. | ||
| This is so important, important for President Trump. | ||
| Everyone's engaged here. | ||
| So I'm optimistic, but we've got to just keep pushing. | ||
| Because there's been no information tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So it's no official movement. | ||
| So can you get us all get us all the information uh and we'll put it up, we'll get you back on tomorrow because I want to flood the zone with the war in posse and have people working the phones and working the system here. | ||
| Uh so if you do that for us, it was a great uh is a great kickoff. | ||
| And they now know that we're 8-1 is not acceptable. | ||
| It's got to be 9-0. | ||
| Um so we just need the information to make sure we can go back and and and uh and so the war in posse is looking to go to work, look to do something. | ||
| Uh, you know, they're going the prayer visuals, they're honoring Charlie. | ||
| In fact, something's happening in the House right now. | ||
| We may cut to it in a few minutes. | ||
| Another memorial for Charlie, but people want to take action. | ||
| They want to support Charlie's work and drive the uh the task and purpose of uh turning point uh more forward. | ||
| Before I let you go, because I know with Elisa Fonick, you're her chief strategist, what's happening, what's happening in New York? | ||
| Because I've told people for a while that you know, this guy was gonna win the primary, he's gonna be Cuomo, and now Adams looks like he may drop out as as as early as Friday. | ||
| I'm not so sure it's gonna make much of a difference. | ||
| Kathy Hokel, the sitting governor of New York, um endorsed mom Donnie today. | ||
| Can you explain to folks throughout the country who I don't think quite have gotten it? | ||
| Um, and and it's not the war in posse, they get it, but the media that watches this and the hedge fund guys, how radical this guy is in the working people's party and the DSA and what's gonna happen in New York when they win, because right now they're on a glide path to not just win but win big. | ||
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| So Steve, I think I think you and I were the only two people that said Mam Dami was gonna win. | ||
| Certainly also Elise has been public with folks months before the primary saying, hey, this guy's gonna win. | ||
| He's got the momentum on the Democrat side. | ||
| And this is where the party's heading for a litany. | ||
| I think the most important thing is Kathy Hokel. | ||
| I mean New York is more like is like the Crown Jewel, Steve, right? | ||
| You got California, you got New York. | ||
| That's like those the two Democrat power centers and then obviously the Imperial Capital, you know, to an extent as well, of course. | ||
| You know, the fact that she bent the knee to communism, T anti-semensitism, to this sort of jihadism, uh green alliance type of situation, it shows that the establishment is weak and they are kind of gutted from these kind of crazy people. | ||
| And I mean Steve, getting rid of private health care, government owned grocery stores, ending the police as we know it, getting rid of the gang database, you know, importing more illegals, you know, uh restricting ICE, going against, I mean, just his his his you know his mantra is crazy. | ||
| And especially the Israel stuff and, you know, there are a lot of anti-Semitism issues on the ground in New York and he also has ton of support from liberal Jewish voters. | ||
| So the whole thing is crazy. | ||
| And I think the fact that she understood that facing a possible governor race with Elise that she was worried about her left flank, Steve, because these people are ruthless and they're going after the Kathy Hokels of the world, Steve. | ||
| I mean these people are gearing up to devour their own but we you and I both said we said everyone will bend the knee the establishment the Democrats you know some of the Wall Street guys. | ||
| Yes they're going to play ball and that's what's happening. | ||
| And some are panicking and they should and I think Charlie Kirk and Elise was going through her tax and she posted this on X and Charlie Kirk texted her and he also published something I think back in June or July and said we can't give up on New York. | ||
| It's so easy for people to say hey New York is gone let it destroy no I mean New York is the financial capital of the world. | ||
| You always say it Steve and really New York is sort of the the the breach it's sort of the beach hat for the far left and once they kind of implant there they move inward they move across the country whether it's bail reform all the illegal sanctuary cities it all started in New York andor California unfortunately. | ||
| So just as you've got this issue with California Newsom, we've got this issue in New York and we'll see how things develop but the fact that Kathy Hokel has beat Hakeem Jeffrey, Schumer, all of these guys and endorsed not just endorsed I mean went full out said he's great we need to do Trump, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| He's great all the I mean it's it's really alarming and people should be scared. | ||
| People should be scared for what's coming from the modern Democrat Party because the communists, the jihadists, I mean this guy's funded Lock Saban Barrel, you look at his family but yeah well this is this is what's so important about designating right now Antifa as a terrorist organization because you spread out you go to terrorist finance we have no earthy idea and I've said this from the very beginning the guys called me up here and how do you defeat him I said listen you got to get to back where this kid's money's coming from you've got to do it and you have to do it now. | ||
| You're not going to beat him with conventional weapons. | ||
| You're not going to that Curtis and Adams are not going to drop out and magically Cuomo is going to win Cuomo's not even running a race right he's Frank Skeffington in the last hurrah. | ||
| This thing's over. | ||
| And now you're seeing him bend in the knee. | ||
| And more importantly, you're seeing the finance community and you're seeing big business bend the knee also. | ||
| So about the money, though, this is why the terrorism designation is so important. | ||
| Because then you get into all these kind of groups, ActBlue and the sources and these other, these Arabella and all this other dark money that's coming in. | ||
| As President Trump said, you know, far violations by billionaires taking money from foreign countries and putting it into this apparatus. | ||
| Is that something you think it may be too late to stop the victory? | ||
| But is that something you eventually take this guy down? | ||
| Well, I think it's huge, Steve. | ||
| I think his connections with foreign you know sort of radical Islamic and absolutely I stand by that as critical on the sort of antifa designation. | ||
| It's clear from just based on what we know through public information about the shooting and sort of their network I think is very alarming. | ||
| I think the RICO side of things that President Trump mentioned as well and actually I think he's using I think the information that that he's working off of because I know it's what I've seen and what's been publicly reported is sort of the money traced through the working families party you know billions from Soros it goes through nonprofits it gets washed out with these limits they're hiring staff. | ||
| I mean none of their stuff is I mean I think he kind of peaked and got some grassroots support but a lot of this stuff is astro turf highly coordinated highly sort of manipulated on social media with the CCP, other foreign actors. | ||
| So I think when you look at it holistically, you look at the money, of course, you've got the Antifa, the terrorism side of things in general, but you've also got this RICO sort of where they're funding all this violence and different things with Soros and money's passing through nonprofits into political, you know, state parties and different things. | ||
| And I think it's a huge issue. | ||
| And I think Mamdami's funded by California, he's funded by billionaires. | ||
| He I mean, that's the thing, Steve. | ||
| I mean, he's got a super pack, they're raising millions of dollars. | ||
| I mean, come on here. | ||
| You know, money's pouring in the working families party, spent millions of dollars. | ||
| Soros has put in like 30 million dollars into that entire entity over time. | ||
| So, I mean, they know what they're doing, and it's very sophisticated. | ||
| It's not grassroots. | ||
| George Will and these other bow tie, you know, Bill Buckley, National Review, the Salon conservatives say, Oh, well, it's socialism and let it fail. | ||
| Hey, these are Marxists, jihadists. | ||
| When they get control, it's just like Sadiq Khan taking control of London. | ||
| They ain't giving it up. | ||
| And people should note that President Trump is making a state visit that he's wanted to make for a long time. | ||
| They put out the schedule in detail. | ||
| President Trump's gonna leave tomorrow. | ||
| He's gonna go to Windsor. | ||
| He's gonna spend uh Tuesday night there. | ||
| He's also gonna have a whole array of uh of um ceremonies at Windsor Castle with the King of England, King Charles, on Wednesday. | ||
| Then he's gonna go to Checkers. | ||
| Uh Winston Churchill's uh uh country home that he then gave, donated it to the uh to the um uh to the uh ministers, I think it was to the to the um uh the the prime ministers. | ||
| He's gonna stay there. | ||
| Starmer he's not going within, I don't know, 40 miles of London. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because London has been radicalized. | ||
| The president of the United States can't go to London. | ||
| Tommy, Tommy Robinson got over a million people of uh British working class and middle class people to show up, but Sadiq Khan has turned London into a no-go zone. | ||
| And uh when the president of the United States goes for a state visit and does not go to London, that should be a big tell to everybody because of security concerns. | ||
| Uh Alice, we'll get you on tomorrow. | ||
| We got so much more to go through on 9-0 in Indiana. | ||
| You're gonna get some information. | ||
| We're gonna put it out. | ||
| Uh, where do people go to get you on your uh on your social media? | ||
| Yeah, thanks, Steve. | ||
| I'm not degrass anyone on X, Truth Getter. | ||
| Um, you know, keep an eye on New York, and then if you're in Indiana, let's lock in the updates on the rest of the states as well, because we got to keep driving that ship. | ||
| So thank you, Steve. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Okay, I want to play a clip. | ||
| Now, Michael said just from the other day. | ||
| A lot has changed since Michael Savage said this. | ||
| I think a much more engagement FBI, the Department of Justice, President Trump just said he's gonna designate Antifa as a terror domestic terrorist organization or terrorist organization for an investigation. | ||
| But I want to play this care and bring Phil back in because I think a lot of us have these questions that Mike Savage had. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it. | ||
| Something's wrong. | ||
| I know I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I'm risking an awful lot to go up against this FBI, the MAGA FBI. | ||
| Something's very wrong with what I just heard. | ||
| I mean, I watched it. | ||
| I was hoping that they had caught the bastard who shot Charlie. | ||
| So we saw a video of a person jumping off the roof. | ||
| It looked very legitimate to me. | ||
| However, there was no rifle in his hand. | ||
| Now, the Mauser does not break down very easily, incidentally, for those of you who know weapons. | ||
| Something's wrong with the whole thing. | ||
| They're trying to claim he removed the barrel from the Mauser and fit the receiver and stock in his backpack and barrel in his pants like all in two seconds. | ||
| It is not easy to remove a Mauser barrel or index it after reinstalling and remain accurate. | ||
| We are not hearing or seeing reality. | ||
| And by the way, the photo of the rifle allegedly left in the woods, has the barrel installed. | ||
| So we're supposed to believe a guy is on the run after killing Charlie Kirk, and he pauses in the woods to reinstall a barrel, and then he leaves it for us to find the FBI to find. | ||
| I don't believe a word of it. | ||
| I shouldn't do this. | ||
| I know I'm putting myself at risk, but I can't take it anymore. | ||
| I can't take the from this government, it's lying to us. | ||
| Something's wrong. | ||
| Something's so wrong. | ||
| It's sickening. | ||
| Look at this idiot. | ||
| They found the rifle and are getting the prints. | ||
| Are you stupid? | ||
| Are you that stupid? | ||
| Are you that dumb? | ||
| The man jumps off the roof. | ||
| There's no rifle air. | ||
| Oh, it's in his backpack. | ||
| I just told you, moron. | ||
| That this rifle doesn't break down that easily. | ||
| And then it's supposed to be reassembled while he's on the run. | ||
| Wait, I'll stop now and reassemble it and leave it in the woods in a box. | ||
| Wrapped in a towel. | ||
| He left breadcrumbs. | ||
| Oh, and he the trans anti-the trans stuff on the cartridges. | ||
| Something is wrong with this whole picture. | ||
| I am persona non grata in this white house. | ||
| I will tell you right now. | ||
| I flew with Donald Trump in Air Force One. | ||
| I consider him close to me. | ||
| I have not been able to get near him since this administration took hold. | ||
| They have thrown me out. | ||
| They've castigated, throw me in the desert. | ||
| They don't want me near them. | ||
| They don't want real truth tellers either. | ||
| Sean Hanry, immediately. | ||
| We got a couple, we got a couple. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Um Phil. | ||
| The FBI's official position, because I kind of because Bosobic and I have gone through this thing a million times. | ||
| Their official position on Mike Savage is that um, and I asked Grace and Mo and others on the team to go back and look again. | ||
| They say that actually, oh well, he actually has the gun. | ||
| He drops the gun off the roof before he jumps. | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| I must have missed that. | ||
| Um talk to me. | ||
| We got a couple minutes here. | ||
| I'm gonna hold you through the break. | ||
| Just you know the neighborhood, right? | ||
| You're very familiar with with uh with Utah Valley University and the houses around it. | ||
| You've seen a lot of these videos. | ||
| What does Phil Lyman say? | ||
| Well, you know, when they say they throw it into the wooded area, uh, you're saying, well, is it the wooded area there by the house, or does it is it around by the Broadrix or around by the Steels, or which wooded area? | ||
| Is it by the chicken coop? | ||
| Is it did he climb the fence? | ||
| You know, all of these things. | ||
| So yeah, that it helps to have a little bit of lay of the land, but the the video that I watched, that was the first thing. | ||
| First of all, that coming into the the campus with his limp, I thought there's there's not a 30-06 down that pant leg. | ||
| And then when I saw that the gun with the with the with the stuff with the uh scope on, it's like, well, there's definitely not a there's definitely not a that's not down his pant leg. | ||
| And then somebody said, well, maybe he assembled it on the roof, and and just like Mike said, I I know enough about guns. | ||
| You can't even if you even bump the scope on an old 30.6 like that, you're you're gonna be off. | ||
| You couldn't take that apart, assemble it on the roof, and then take one shot and expect it to be anywhere near the target. | ||
| And then so then taking, you know, jumping off the roof and then reassembling it again. | ||
| It's the whole thing, actually. | ||
| The more they try to explain it, the more it's like this is not true. | ||
| This is this is absolutely not true. | ||
| And uh and yeah, it does help to know the people and to uh to talk, and then you you you go and you visit with your relatives, and they're saying, yeah, well, this is the actual ring came camera, and you look at the other neighbors, and it's like, okay, this is something is not adding up. | ||
| The other thing that kind of bugged me was was that when they said that they used um AI to enhance the video the picture of the uh of the suspect. | ||
| And I'm looking at the AI enhanced version of that. | ||
| It's like, oh, that looks a lot more like Tyler Um Robinson than the than the original. | ||
| In fact, it looks like two different people. | ||
| I mean, honestly, all of it. | ||
| Steve by the end you you're losing, you're saying I don't know what the truth is, but I do know that we're not being told the truth. | ||
| And then there's other there's other, you know, vehicles in the area. | ||
| There's clearly there's other communication going on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
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| We got Phil O'Leiman, uh, candidate for governor. | ||
| I also want to talk about Cox and his uh responsibility here with the administration. | ||
| That is I don't know. | ||
| It's been out of control for a while. | ||
| This is why he's the most anti-Trump governor of a red state in the country. | ||
| And I don't know how he was selected to give all the presentation he gave in that long speech the other night. | ||
| When it seems to me the FBI and others, Dan Bongino and Cash Patel should have walked through the basic facts and he should have done the partnership thing. | ||
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| Dr. Thayer's also with us On uh Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization. | ||
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| So Phil, you you're you're part of this, you know, Charlie, you're there. | ||
| You hear the thing, the missile shock, but now you're seeing how it's being put out in dribs and drabs. | ||
| You had the governor the other day when they said, well, the one question, hey, is uh is anybody arrested here besides the potential saying, oh no, the roommate, and they all day today they were talking about uh oh no, the roommate is uh he didn't know anything about it. | ||
| They said they've said it a hundred times, or he didn't know anything about it. | ||
| Well, what what do you mean he didn't know anything about it? | ||
| So he tells you he doesn't know anything about it, gets off scot-free. | ||
| In fact, do we have the university of Alabama uh professor? | ||
| Can we play that? | ||
| Let's tell me when that's ready to go, and we'll play that. | ||
| Um you've got the university. | ||
| We've got the Discord messages, and then uh no, we don't have the Discord messages. | ||
| Oh, there were no Discord messages. | ||
| It's like, well, let's wait, which is it? | ||
| Let's let's at least tell the truth here. | ||
| Um and that's what that's what has been lacking this whole time. | ||
| And then I don't want to get ahead of you on this, Steve, but you know, watching, I I knew that Spencer Cox uh was not a fan of President Trump. | ||
| I knew he was not a fan of Turning Point, and then people are you know texting me saying, you know, uh Spencer Cox dislikes Charlie Kirk almost as much as he dislikes Trump. | ||
| And and then and then to see the, you know, my friend, my you know, saying my friend, Charlie Kirk says this, and he says this. | ||
| I mean, it's it's it's okay, but I don't want to disrupt, I don't want to disrupt the investigation. | ||
| I don't want to disrupt the disrupt the efforts. | ||
| And I was so glad when you when you brought up the hypocrisy there. | ||
| When he gets on and says Charlie Clerk says said some inflammatory things. | ||
| Uh I was I was talking to my wife, and I said, Yeah, Christ is king is what is most inflammatory. | ||
| And that's what he said right before he was shot. | ||
| Christ is king and God is as overall. | ||
| I mean, if that's inflammatory, and it is in this world, then we know what we're talking about. | ||
| We're talking about good versus evil, and that's and that's you know, you you have to step forward. | ||
| And that's what these kids. | ||
| I mean, these kids are like flocking to turning point now. | ||
| They're flocking to church. | ||
| I've got I've I've had many, many calls from College A's kids saying, I want to, I want to do something. | ||
| They were inspired by Charlie Kirk. | ||
| And uh, and if if I can just cut me off if I'm going too far. | ||
| But one of the things that was really, really no, it's great, really, really present to me. | ||
| I looked and I and I saw, and I thought, I I didn't know the condition of Charlie Kirk, but I thought this this is probably bad. | ||
| Went down when I got closer, I'm running into the kids, and there's like, yeah, I I saw what I saw. | ||
| The tragedy of that was the 3,000 innocent children, mostly innocent children, college-age kids, you know, young young people who witness something really, really traumatic. | ||
| And that could go either way, you know, and God's God is going to do something with that. | ||
| Um the uh the you know, the broken hearts that are that are out there right now are are producing miracles in the lives of these kids. | ||
| So Charlie wanted to have a major impact on on their lives, and he had a major impact, at least on the on the kids that were there, and so many others that are that are looking at this. | ||
| And and so when you take a a lion like like a Charlie Kirk and you and and Spencer Cox comes in with his you know little disparaging comments, the contrast I think is more than people can reconcile in their minds. | ||
| They they and they don't they're not giving Spencer Cox the benefit of the doubt, which they shouldn't because it's dangerous. | ||
| These this is the thing about bad policy and bad government is it is it hurts people, it hurts people really badly. | ||
| You end up with you know uh parents who are helping their kids to transition and and supporting mental illness and and things like that. | ||
| And in Utah, where you know, just we were the first state out there with DEI, embracing DEI, you know, to the max, embracing illegal immigration. | ||
| Uh the the the I I love what President Trump's talking about these RICO cases. | ||
| I hope that we can get some of somebody looking into some of the deals that were made here with uh uh in Utah. | ||
| And I'm not talking, I'm not talking uninformed. | ||
| I've been in the legislature for six years. | ||
| I was a county commissioner before that. | ||
| This is these are the things that that brought me into politics is to find out why do we make such bad decisions? | ||
| Why does government make decisions that hurt the people that they're intended to serve? | ||
| And this is the questions that I think this generation, you know, when they call me and they say, Hey, I wonder what I could do, I say, This is your time. | ||
| This is your generation, the the future is yours. | ||
| It's like and and honestly, it's it's it's being delivered to them, you know, in a really you know, profound, profound way. | ||
| You know, we talk about you know, we talk about the idea of reverence. | ||
| Reverence is standing firm and and and it's it's changing. | ||
| And you tell has a I think you have a problem with this. | ||
| It's like, oh, you know, being kind, being agreeable. | ||
| It's like, well, who are you kind to? | ||
| Are you kind to the to the downtrodden or are you are you kind to the people who are trying to dominate your friends and neighbors? | ||
| It's like stand up, speak up. | ||
| This was this was Charlie's whole message in it, and it just you know resonated. | ||
| Uh uh to Cox, I called for an investigation day because Cox was the most, he's more radical than except for his buddy Gerald Polis in Colorado and Newsom in uh in uh in California, he would be in the top five most radical uh governors in the country with his embrace of DEI and transgender. | ||
| I remember today when I think he was doing a Zoom call and talk about his pronouns, it's all fine. | ||
| I mean, he's pushed this, his uh, and I think his his administration, you know, his wife Abby Cox is involved in this SEL and the empathy crisis. | ||
| They've goaded this on. | ||
| This is why that whole part of it is got to be thoroughly investigated. | ||
| We gotta get to the bottom. | ||
| And today, Gateway Pundit and then Naomi Wolf and David Cloud, as we're talking right here, they're putting up stories now on social media. | ||
| It looks like there were certain accounts that knew something was gonna happen. | ||
| This did not come as a surprise. | ||
| It backs up Phil Lyman sitting there going, hey, a couple of girls dropped the F bomb, and they weren't afraid. | ||
| They were kind of saying, hey, suckers, you know, F you, and there's some other people out there, which normal human reaction, even from a warrior would be, I'm gonna get out of here for a minute until I see if this is gonna be a mass shooting, regroup, and then we'll think about it. | ||
| People were sitting there after a bang like that that sounds like gunfire, uh, potentially like gunfire, and you see Charlie, Char Charlie Kirk get hit. | ||
| Um it it means something. | ||
| And I think you got to get to the bottom of the entire apparatus that brought this up, right? | ||
| And nobody in this audience right now, I will tell you, believes that this kid, until they're shown hard evidence, is actually the guy that that that pulled the trigger. | ||
| Maybe he did. | ||
| But the evidence here has got to Be put forward because people think that there's something much darker going on here. | ||
| Phil, we got to bounce, but I want to have you back on because of your knowledge of the we'll go through the video tape maybe together because it's very confusing. | ||
| And this is why I've been advocating not just to designate a terrorist organization so you can get a serious investigation going, but and don't treat it as one a one-off murder or an assassination. | ||
| Uh, but also you got to bring all the forces to bear here, and we got to get a timeline and you've got to move with alacrity to make sure that this doesn't turn into some sort of like grassy knoll, right? | ||
| As you were saying, hey, what forest you talk about? | ||
| What would you talk about? | ||
| Where do people go for your for your social media, Phil? | ||
| Where do people go to get you? | ||
| Um I'm I'm on X. Uh, probably the best spot is on X. It's Phil underscore Lyman and uh And that's where I think that's where all of the discussion is happening. | ||
| Um just just encouraging people to ask these questions. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with asking a question of something that you observe. | ||
| And and we've been conditioned to like not even ask the question. | ||
| And how dare you ask the question? | ||
| It's like, well, just give an answer. | ||
| And this is what I've gone through for for so long in Utah. | ||
| It's like, how dare you ask that question? | ||
| Uh whether it's about elections or about immigration or about any, you know, water management or force management or rain or any of the other climate issues. | ||
| You cannot ask the question. | ||
| And even as a legislator, when I would ask the question of, you know, like the lieutenant governor, can we look at voter roles? | ||
| Can we look at these things? | ||
| The answer is is not, you know, we'd rather not. | ||
| It was like, how dare you? | ||
| How dare you ask a question and question the government? | ||
| Like that's that's what they said is don't question the government, question the doubters and or doubt the doubters. | ||
| And I This is this is a different generation. | ||
| We are living in a different time, and I'm excited about the reality that people are are forced to confront, I guess. | ||
| No, this is what Charlie Kirk, this is the legacy of one of the legacies of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Phil, thank you. | ||
| I'll call you after the show and uh we'll get uh we'll get organized on this. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| If I can ask if we if we can pull up for our bring it there, can we give President Trump's just response to to saying today the uh the terror organization? | ||
| When that's ready, I'll bring in uh like I said, Gateway pundit and then Naomi Wolf independently that coming and I talked to Poso last night. | ||
| There was a lot of stuff on in these Twitter feeds and others that looked very suspicious. | ||
| I think Andy No, uh, who's done a great job of of tracking this one, the big uh a guy like a Nick Sorter putting up great information all the time on the on on uh on uh X or on Twitter, um was saying, and people were hey, they got all these accounts, some are being pulled down, but it seemed like it wasn't a surprise to them. | ||
| Phil Lyman is a is a is a direct eye witness in the right there in that thing in the building right next to it and the two young girls, two young college students, they're not running for their life. | ||
| They're looking around at the at the Charlie Kirk at the turning point people scrambling and try Charlie shot and they go in F you. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| And he said there's other groups that it didn't look like they were shocked at all. | ||
| And you had that one guy that said, Oh, I was doing it to distract the shooter, which is a bald face lie, that's sitting up jumping up and down, you know, acting like a goofball, like celebrating, ought to get to the bottom of all of them. | ||
| And like I said, Discord. | ||
| If the guys are in Discord and they knew it and now they're saying the guy may have confessed, they're the moral equivalent, they're the exact equivalent of the Boston marathon bombers, uh, the younger guys, the ones still in prison, his uh roommates that for you know a couple of days did not turn it's knew it was him as soon as the footage went up and failed to tell the police you're an accessory after the fact. | ||
| So that's why this investigation. | ||
| I hope it I I know it's broadening out. | ||
| Uh and uh let me play this and we'll bring in Dr. Bradley Thail. | ||
| Let's go and play the clip. | ||
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Uh given all the uh that's going on with Charlotte Kirk's assassination and the left wing, uh left wing uh violence going on. | |
| Do you have plans and actually this is a great opportunity with all these uh uh do you plan on designating uh Antifa finally a domestic terror organization? | ||
| Well, it's uh something I would do, yeah. | ||
| If I have support from the people back here, I think would start with Pam, I think, but I would if you give me uh I would do that a hundred percent and others also, by the way. | ||
| But Antifa is terrible. | ||
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| There are other groups, yeah. | ||
| There are other groups. | ||
| We have some pretty radical groups and they got away with murder. | ||
| And also uh I've been speaking to the attorney general about uh bringing Rico against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation. | ||
| This is these aren't protests when we have time because We'll play we'll play more of it. | ||
| We'll play we'll play more of it. | ||
| He's talking right there about Portland, Oregon. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, you helped us work through a lot of the issues over the weekend about exactly this topic. | ||
| Tell us why it's very important. | ||
| The president says, hey, I'm open to do it. | ||
| If the guys around me want to do it, I want to do it and I will do it. | ||
| Uh what why is it important for us on uh Monday, the 15th of September in the year of our Lord 2025, just a couple of days after the assassination and cold blooded Charlie Kirk for us to do this, sir, to help this investigation? | ||
| Well, Steve, uh, all thanks to you because you've been driving this hard uh uh as well. | ||
| I it's uh so important uh to take these steps. | ||
| First, because it's the recognition of reality. | ||
| Uh terrorism is the use of violence or the threat of violence, especially against civilians in pursuit of political goals, and that's what Antifa is doing, advancing their political objective of overthrowing the constitutional republic that is the United States. | ||
| Uh conducting assassinations, inspiring other individuals to act in similar ways. | ||
| So this is a recognition of reality that Antifa is in fact a terrorist organization. | ||
| Should have been done a long time ago. | ||
| It's extremely important, it's being done now. | ||
| Secondly, we now need to move into what is the counterterrorism strategy. | ||
| What are we going to be doing? | ||
| What are the tools that we're going to be employing against Antifa? | ||
| And this has to be first a whole of government response. | ||
| It's going to require everybody who was in that room in the Oval Office uh this afternoon. | ||
| It's also going to require the American citizenry, right? | ||
| What's often called a whole of society response, uh to reject these guys, right? | ||
| To reject Antifa to recognize what they are. | ||
| It's also going to require whole of government and whole of society, because this is going to be like you know, Schliemann excavating Troy, right? | ||
| You're going to have to go through layer after layer after layer of this stuff to find the international and the domestic uh connections that are certainly present there. | ||
| International are going to be the CCP, Chinese Communist Party, and other actors. | ||
| Domestically, it's going to re um it's going to involve major democratic donors and law firms and major actors uh in the Democratic Party as well. | ||
| So it's going to require tremendous amounts uh of effort uh to do it. | ||
| But it begins with this step and with the president's attention and direction to develop an effective counterterrorism strategy uh to roll these guys up as they need to be in order to remove their threat, | ||
| but to remove equally the bigger threat of how the Chinese Communist Party, how other really nefarious actors uh internationally and domestically are using their influence, hiding behind Antifa, hiding behind front organizations to undermine the our constitutional republic. | ||
| Time to get this out in the open, to lift the rug, to find out what's underneath here, uh, and to begin um dealing with it uh and uh and and cleaning it up. | ||
| And as Tate stress, uh remember from last week, right? | ||
| When you begin to put pressure on this, you're gonna be able to see that it uh is gonna fracture uh, I think uh pretty clearly, but equally it's going to be alarming to the American people to see how this occurred, how they were able to do it so effectively, | ||
| and really the uh cavalcade of bad actors, evil actors uh who are behind Antifa and supporting it, allowing its recruitment, allowing its communication, directing it uh and providing its training. | ||
| Uh Dr. Thayer, we got to bounce. | ||
| Where do people go? | ||
| I know you've been writing about this and talking about this. | ||
| Where do people go to get your thoughts on this topic? | ||
| Uh Steve, everybody can reach me at uh Brad Theron X or Bradley Thayer uh at Getter and Truth. | ||
| And thanks so much, Steve, for uh advancing this along. | ||
| No, Dr. Thayer, the uh intellectual, you did the the the heavy intellectual lift. | ||
| So thank you, sir. | ||
| Appreciate you. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| He's absolutely correct. | ||
| you gotta get down to the layers. | ||
| It's not the first level. | ||
| They got to color coded. | ||
| I gotta go. | ||
| You know, I made a film about this. | ||
| I made a film about this in 2012. | ||
| Andrew Breitbart was actually the star of the film. | ||
| Uh Andrew Breitbart passed away during the production of the film, uh, but we were able to finish it. | ||
| Uh, and actually, Mark Cuban's uh company, the time distribution company, uh, put put it out, and it was about uh back then the Occupy movement uh would metastasize into the uh into Antifa uh very dangerous. | ||
| Andrew was an expert on this, as Charlie Kirk was. | ||
| So quite ironic that what, 13 years later, we're still dealing with this. | ||
| But I think to get to the bottom of it of who the most important layer is the financiers, the politicians, the media types. | ||
| There's gonna be some media folks rounded up in this. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| Wait for it. | ||
| There's some media people up to their neck with this revolutionary activity of uh of trying to essentially destroy the United States of America. | ||
| And uh what they pulled off is the assassination of one of the most important people in the country, and particularly in politics, but in his generation, the leader of his generation, and a guy who I think uh very potentially would have been a future president of the United States. | ||
| Uh they knew what they were doing when they assassinated Charlie Kirk, and you just heard an eyewitness, and now you got Gateway Punnett. | ||
| Others will be curating these stories overnight. | ||
| Tomorrow we're gonna have a much more detailed presentation of this. | ||
| But there are a lot of people in that kind of radical transgender movement that were not that surprised. | ||
| And some of this LGBTQ that were not surprised at all about what happened on uh September 10th in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| So we'll get to all that. | ||
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