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Sept. 15, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4780: Designate Antifa A Terrorist Organization
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donald j trump
25:44
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steve bannon
11:08
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phil lyman
03:34
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stephen miller
02:30
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gadyaces s serralta
00:38
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kash patel
00:45
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kristi noem
00:46
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marsha blackburn
00:56
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pam bondi
00:30
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pete hegseth
00:39
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todd blanche
00:44
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kristi noem
A high number of trafficking, uh significant human traffickers, child exploitation, drug trafficking, the local gangs there are extremely dangerous, and uh I'm so excited that you're going in there to work with not just the governor and willing local leaders, but also our attorney general and all the leaders that are standing here today to help protect our children.
So what's gonna change dramatically is the families' lives that live there, and it's only gonna happen because of you because you're coming in.
What has started there, you're gonna put on steroids, the networks that you're going to uncover across this country, because of the work that's gonna happen in Memphis.
We're gonna see every city get safer because we're gonna see those ties to other criminals that we're going to get out of the country.
So uh we're a nation of laws, and sir, thank you for caring about every single city.
donald j trump
Thank you, Christy.
Really nice.
And what makes it to me so exciting is the success we had here so quickly.
And you know, we've uh taken close to 1,500 people out of DC.
But when I saw the result happened so quickly, and so many people are so thankful.
And people that you pass them every day, and they're fine.
All of a sudden they're thanking me so profusely.
It was so exciting what's happened and continues to be what happened in DC, and so that's what makes us I think even more exciting.
Because we know what's gonna happen.
We know we have the people look, we're sending in a lot of help.
These cities have been taken over for years, and the last four years under Biden, what's happened is just a disgrace.
So uh it it really has what the success we've had here has made it to me much more exciting because I think we're gonna have uh proportionally.
I mean, you have cases where it's even worse.
I have some people we we have some people quoted today that we took out of papers.
We're so grateful for the National Guard coming, said an owner of a Memphis tax service.
It's so dangerous here, it's so darn dangerous that you can't get out of your car.
If you get out of your car, it says you get robbed, you get mugged, you get hit.
You can't go to the market or a service station.
So, yeah, I want to see crime stop, and I want to see the National Guard come in right away if that's what's necessary.
There's a need, here's another one from a director of a Memphis based crime prevention organization.
There's a need for more boots on the ground.
You have to get them done fast before we totally lose it.
They're gonna lose it all.
I got two guns put in my face, then another within five minutes at two different locations.
He said, I got a gun put in my face, then I went someplace else, had another gun put in my face.
I was scared, it never happened to me.
I've never seen anything like it.
Here's another one.
I honestly thought he was going to kill me, said a sixty-year-old Memphis carjacking victim.
A man walked up, give me your car, you got five seconds to get out, or you're dead.
This is what we have in this page after page of the same kind of thing.
Cash, would you say a few words, please?
kash patel
Thank you, Mr. President.
Um, thanks to your brilliant foresight.
You had asked us to go in quietly into the cities to help set the landscape to work with the interagency and to make America safe again.
And we've done that um under the FBI's uh banner program of operation summer heat.
And the results um are only as good as the prosecutions.
And because the attorney general and the deputy attorney general have mobilized DOJ to successfully prosecute so many violent criminals.
We have set the landscape for the interagency to come into Memphis and really make it safe permanently, as the governor and the senators and the other directors were saying, it's not a short-term mission, but thanks to you launching us early, launching us quietly, not looking for the credit, Mr. President.
We greatly appreciate your support and the advanced foresight you had in doing that.
donald j trump
It's so exciting, and somebody had to do this.
A president should have stepped up long ago and saved these cities.
So it's not that I wanted to do it, believe me.
Somebody had to do it, and uh we're doing it in a big way.
Pete, could you say a few words?
pete hegseth
Yes, Mr. President.
Um, you know, from day one.
The DOD excuse me, DOW.
Uh the Department of War.
donald j trump
I'm glad you made that correct.
pete hegseth
Correct, of course, uh has been proud to stand with our partners across the interagency, uh, whether it's the Southwest border, whether it was Los Angeles getting ahead of that, whether it's right here in Washington, D.C., where um Secretary Driscoll and and the Army and the National Guard have taken the lead in helping across all of these great folks to secure the city.
We are very proud to be here to stand strong alongside law enforcement.
Uh we're glad that uh Memphis is the place to go.
The the volunteer state, they're we're not gonna have any problems with the Tennessee National Guard being willing to go in uh and stand strong.
donald j trump
Not at all.
And they get ready because you'll be doing a lot of other places that are almost as troubled.
You got to some of them are equal.
You look at what's going on in Baltimore with the governor who's telling me how wonderful it is, and you can't walk across the street without being shot.
Uh, could I ask our two great senators to say a few words?
marsha blackburn
Of course, Mr. President, thank you so much.
Um I I want to say a thank you to Director Patel, because he had promised that he would come into Memphis.
We've had Operation Viper there this summer.
Uh there have been over 500 arrests.
There are over a hundred indictments, and Memphis had the best stats they have had in years this past August.
Last month, it was the best August they have had, and it's because of the work that's been done, and now to have a new phase of this enforcement for Memphis, where we are going to have all of these agencies working as a team, as the governor said, making certain that this is a long-term effort to make Memphis safe again.
Mr. President, we are so grateful, and we thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Yeah, thanks, Mr. President.
And this is an issue that's plagued Memphis since I was a boy, Mr. President.
And it's time that we addressed it.
And I appreciate your leadership allowing us to do that.
And the team that you've assembled here is going to help us deliver the most fundamental responsibility of our government, and that's public safety.
This shouldn't be a partisan issue.
This should be something that is our primary goal.
And certainly I hope to see Memphis become the safest city in America.
And thanks for the effort of all of your team here to make us make certain that happens.
Thank you, Governor Lee, and I want to say thanks to the Memphis Police Department and the Sheriff's Department there too, who have all worked closely to bring this together.
I look forward to tremendous results.
donald j trump
And I want to thank the FBI for the last four or five months because they have brought down the numbers quite a bit.
Chicago here and a couple of other places that we can talk about later if anybody wants to.
Could I ask you to guys Terry Gaddy say a couple of words also?
You've let you really did lead the charge here, and you've done such a great job.
unidentified
Please.
stephen miller
Mr. President, thank you for always supporting law enforcement.
unidentified
I think the major difference here in Washington, D.C. has been your support for law enforcement.
Has been empowering the men and women that are on the street working every single day.
And I look forward to not only going to Memphis but other places in Tennessee as well.
stephen miller
And I think you'll hear from us real soon, Mr. President.
Thank you for your support, sir.
donald j trump
We have plenty of places.
stephen miller
Yes, sir, we do.
donald j trump
You know the country very well.
That's great.
Thank you, Jerry.
Thanks, Ken.
gadyaces s serralta
Mr. President, I just want to say that we're we're honored uh once again to lead the charge with the United States Marshall Service uh leading and joining uh 22 other federal agencies.
Uh I can say that today uh we spoke with uh over 30 of the uh the local agencies, um, letting them know what what what to expect, uh, given the template that we've done here in uh in DC, uh, so they know what to expect.
They're extremely excited.
Uh, I think everyone is is gonna be uh uh well receiving the law enforcement surge that we're about to take to Memphis.
unidentified
Thank you.
donald j trump
Great job.
gadyaces s serralta
Thank you.
donald j trump
And I'm gonna ask one of the best lawyers in the country.
He is one of the best.
Doug, say a few words, please.
He is a great lawyer.
todd blanche
Thank you, Mr. President.
Yeah, I look.
I think it's been said for the past 15 minutes.
The president ran um on making this country safe again, and we do not make this country safe again unless we go into our cities where there's the most violent among us and go street by street and block by block and arrest arrest the men and women in this country that are destroying cities and communities for the rest of us.
And so what we plan on doing, as the governor said and the senator just said, this has been a problem in Memphis for a long time.
We plan on delivering Memphis back to the citizens that that are there to raise their families, to go to church, to be in their communities.
Uh, that's our goal, and that's what we plan on doing, whether it takes two weeks or two years.
That's what we're gonna do.
donald j trump
Thanks, Todd.
Stephen Miller, please say a few words.
stephen miller
Thank you, Mr. President.
donald j trump
That's hard to tell.
unidentified
I think that's gonna be hard to do.
stephen miller
President Trump's initiative here in Washington, D.C. is important to understand is the most successful anti-crime initiative in American history.
But just think about it for a second.
In In 30 days, President Trump put together a team that saw the largest ever violent crime reduction in any city in American history.
Something that people had not been able to do in 40 years.
That is a momentous achievement.
And now the president is going to take that same model to Memphis, and as he said, more cities after that.
The team that the President has put together has no equal today or anywhere in American history.
I think what's happening here is that what the president has done is made clear.
The power of federal law enforcement that was used for the last four years to harass and attack conservatives, to harass and attack Christians, to go after law-abiding families.
The power of law enforcement under President Trump is going to be used to get all the criminals, all the violent offenders, all the murderers, all the cartels, and all the domestic terrorists off our streets.
So whether you're Antifa, whether you're a domestic terrorist, whether you are a violent gang member, a drug trafficker, a trained Irawa killer, or anyone else that's turning our people, President Trump is saying he's gonna use his FBI, his DOD, his ATF, his DEA, to wipe you out, to put you in bars behind bars, to take you off the street, or to apply whatever legal consequences necessary.
Mr. President, I'm honored beyond words to be a part of this team under your leadership, as you've saved thousands of lives.
donald j trump
Thank you very much.
Come on over, let's sign that bill.
You want to say anything about our great military real fast?
He's what a job he's doing.
unidentified
This guy's Mr. President, so our Army National Guard uh is honored to be part of this mission.
This is their community.
A lot of them are from DC, they're from Tennessee.
When you talk to them, when you talk to the actual population out there who interact with them every day, they say it's a blessing to have them as a part of their life.
And then for the National Guard getting to have this where they get to improve their communities, where their kids are growing up and they're going to church, and this is where their families are.
Um many of them, sir, have said this is the honor of their lifetime.
So thank you.
donald j trump
Look at that nice face, and yet he's a killer.
But he's a total killer.
I don't know how you do it, huh?
Everybody here is loving.
All right, here we go.
unidentified
That's wonderful.
perfect Okay, thank you very much.
donald j trump
Thank you very much, Mr. President.
Thank you very much.
Great job.
Uh, any questions, please?
unidentified
Yeah, but first of all, you've got to.
donald j trump
Did they take down the blue tent?
unidentified
Yes, sir.
donald j trump
Last time he hit me with a blue tent, and nobody knew what he was talking about.
We found out, right?
And it was gone the next day, and they had a lot of that was not so easy.
That uh that's a violent radical left group.
Okay, go ahead.
unidentified
I got peppered with a lot of comments for doing that.
They still have their First Amendment right, though, there's too on their protest.
donald j trump
I'm not sure.
unidentified
You've got an amazing team behind you.
You've done an awesome job for DC.
I want to get ahead of a story that I think might come out.
You pushed out an email earlier today, uh, really showing dozens and dozens of local media in Memphis highlighting all the violent crime in that city.
So they have no problem reporting the crime, but when you show up to solve it, they're gonna run around town looking for that one person that says we don't want Donald Trump in our city.
What can you save the media there in Memphis, Tennessee uh to help let them know the people want you there in their city?
donald j trump
Well, I'm not sure they found that person, you know, because I saw them doing some interviews, and I it looked like they were looking, but they were very, in fact, that producer of that person, I think they lost their jobs because everybody was saying we want Trump to be there, they want the people right here to be in there.
Look, it's very simple.
In Chicago, they're getting beat to hell, they're being shot.
Uh if you lose six or seven people die over a weekend, they consider that a successful weekend.
And when you consider that a successful weekend, that's pretty bad.
I had the president of Poland here a few days ago, and we had a news conference.
Many of you were here, and uh I made the statement.
I said, you know, we're very happy to announce that uh it's been over two weeks since Anybody's been killed in DC.
And he looked at me like, is that supposed to be good?
You know, he's looking like uh what kind of a place is this?
And now it's been a long time, but uh, and and as I was saying it, I said, you know, I'm not sure if that sounds good to somebody.
It sounded great to you, but it doesn't sound good to somebody from a country where they don't have violent crime like we have.
But now it's a long time since that's happened.
We went for years where at least one person was killed.
Now you're not seeing it all.
It's like the border.
Millions of people a year ago, millions of people poured into our country.
In the last three months, there have been zero, as reported by largely Democrats, actually.
Uh the border is secure, the country is secure.
Uh we've got the hottest country anywhere in the world.
And I'll tell you, a year ago, we were a country in tremendous trouble, probably a dead country if it continued.
So we're very happy about it.
And so just, you know, in terms of your question, uh, people have never seen anything like what we're doing, and I think they're very happy, and they want us to be there.
They don't want to be mugged.
Who would say, gee, I don't want the National Guard?
And you need that in terms of numbers.
And also, you look at those guys, I looked at them, they're rough guys.
They're uh, you know, the Supreme Court voted recently on merit.
We're a merit-based country again.
I I said they had tremendous courage to do that.
We're merit-based country again.
When I looked at the people that were patrolling the streets for the National Guard and for others, I could see we're merit-based.
They were rough looking, they were tough looking, and they love our country.
So uh that's where we are, Brian.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you very much.
donald j trump
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Yes.
Uh, given of all the uh that's going on with Charlie Kirk's assassination and the left wing, uh left wing uh violence going on.
Do you have plans?
And actually, this is a great great opportunity with all these uh people.
Uh do you plan on designating uh Antifa finally a domestic terror organization?
donald j trump
Well, it's uh something I would do, yeah.
If I have support from the people back here, I think we'd start with Pam, I think.
But I would if you give me uh I would do that a hundred percent, and others also, by the way.
But Antifa is terrible.
unidentified
Are there other groups that you can make up?
donald j trump
There are other groups, yeah.
There are other groups.
We have some pretty radical groups, and they got away with murder.
And also uh I've been speaking to the attorney general about uh bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation.
This is these aren't protests, these are crimes what they're doing, where they're throwing bricks at uh cars of the uh of ice and border patrol, and they come in with beautiful new car, they're so proud, it's border patrol.
Ice, you know, it's got whatever it is, and they're throwing rocks at it.
And after 50 yards, it looks like an old beat-up vehicle.
It was just brand new, it's just bought for the purposes, and they don't have to take that anymore.
I let it be known.
We'll take responsibility, they don't have to take it anymore, and they don't want to take it.
They were told uh by a past administration, it became almost a culture.
If somebody throws a rock at you, do nothing.
If somebody spits in your face, do nothing.
And I say, when they spit, you hit.
Do whatever you want, you do whatever the hell you want.
I watch it where I watched it so sick it made me for four years.
I had to sit home and watch uh people screaming at policemen and spitting in their face, and they weren't able to do anything.
They just had a grin and bear there standing up like a piece of steel, and they're woman in many cases, women.
You can see they're professional agitators.
I had one the other night.
I had four the other night, all in one group, total phonies that started to scream when I got into a restaurant.
Oh, you know, something with Palestine.
And I said, Well, I'm doing a great job for peace in the Middle East.
I should get lots of awards for that, right?
With the Abraham Accords and everything else.
But a woman just stood up and started screaming.
And she got booed out of the place, too.
The people, there were a lot of people in the restaurant.
I went there to show how safe, and it was safe.
I mean, a woman is just a mouthpiece all she was.
She was a paid, she was a paid agitator.
And you have a lot of them.
And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of Rico, bringing Rico cases against it.
Criminal RICO, because they should be put in jail.
What they're doing to this country is really uh subversive.
unidentified
Is that Mr. President?
Mr. President Kyoski.
And one on Charlie Kerr.
Um you've floated potentially going into St. Louis.
You mentioned you want to go to Chicago next.
Could St. Louis be after Chicago?
donald j trump
It's going to be around there someplace, yeah.
We've got to save St. Louis.
Got to save these cities.
These this isn't like, you know, we're going to do something.
We have to save St. Louis.
We have to save Chicago.
I know all about Chicago.
I have a great, beautiful building.
I'm so proud of it.
But you know, you get less proud when you see all the crime.
When they announced uh two weeks or 11 people killed, this is over a weekend.
Uh I think they said 38 people shot and 11 people dead.
And then you watch Pritzka get up and say, we've got crime under control.
And I will say that Cash and the FBI did a good job.
With a very light force, they went in, and for the about four months cash or so, they've been working on keeping crime down.
They have brought the numbers down a little bit.
But those are the easy numbers.
You know, the first 20, 25% of the easy numbers.
That's where it gets.
Then you have to bring in the big forces, right?
Which is what we always intended to do.
But I think the FBI's done a very good job.
And in particular, Memphis and Chicago, they burn it down a little bit.
Uh like 20% and 25%.
Well, I guess it's not so little, but we have a long way to go.
Uh we think Chicago is going to be next, and we'll get to St. Louis also.
unidentified
And on Charlie Burks' assassin.
donald j trump
And New Orleans, we want to get too.
unidentified
Your FBI is investigating the potential role of left-wing organizations in the assassination.
I'm wondering if you think if Charlie Kirk's assassin worked alone before he worked with it.
I don't know.
donald j trump
I I mean I can tell you he didn't work alone on the internet because it seems that he became radicalized on the internet.
That's just by watching what the same things that you're watching and hearing.
Uh it looks like he became radicalized over the internet.
And it seems like his wonderful parents brought in a wonderful neighborhood, smart guy, great boards, great marks, great student.
Um and then he uh something happened to him over a fairly short period of time.
Looks like he was radicalized over the internet, and it's radicalized on the left.
He's a left.
I have a lot of problems with the left, and they get protected, and they shouldn't be protected.
But we, as you understand, I think very well from the tone of your question.
Thank you very much.
unidentified
On Venezuela, what can you tell us about this Venezuelan boat that was taken out and Do you plan to provide proof that these were narco-terrorists who were on their way to the U.S.?
donald j trump
Well, we have proof.
Well, you have to do is look at the cargo that was like it's spattered all over the ocean.
Big bags of cocaine and uh fentanyl all over the place, and uh it was plus we have uh recorded evidence that they were leaving.
We've recorded them.
It's very careful because we know you people would be after us.
We're very careful.
The military, the military's been amazing.
And uh General Cain uh showed me a little while ago the clip, uh, but you could actually see it, but you don't have to see it because we have recorded uh proof and evidence.
We know what time they were leaving, when they were leaving, what they had, and all of the other things that that you'd like to have.
But we have noticed that there are no ships in the ocean anymore.
We're seeing that there's like no ships, no, you know, when the first one we went, there were hundreds of boats.
Now there are no boats.
I wonder why.
Meaning no drugs are coming, of course, probably stopping some fishermen too.
I mean, to be honest, if I were a fisherman, I wouldn't want to go fishing.
Just a nice let's take a little trip, because I'd say, man, if they maybe they think I have drugs downstairs.
I don't want the I think the fishing business probably been hurt.
But no, there are literally no boats.
This was a boat, and we were surprised to see it.
Now, what does that mean?
That means there's no drugs coming by sea.
But they do come by land.
And you know what?
Uh, we're telling the cartels right now, we're gonna be stopping them too.
When they come by land, we're gonna be stopping them the same way we stopped the boats.
And you'll see that, but maybe by talking about it a little bit, it won't happen.
If it doesn't happen, that's good.
But what they killed 300,000 people in our country last year.
And we're not letting it happen anymore.
unidentified
And then on Israel, did D. Netanyahu speak to you directly to alert you that Israel was going to be striking.
donald j trump
No.
unidentified
Hamas sites and conversations.
donald j trump
No, it didn't.
unidentified
No, he didn't.
Yeah, but how did you how did you learn of it?
donald j trump
Same way you did.
Go ahead, please.
stephen miller
You mentioned that uh the shooter was radicalized online.
donald j trump
I think so.
You know, by the way, when I say that, that's my opinion.
Uh I think he was radicalized online based on what they're saying.
stephen miller
Do social media companies bear any responsibility for that?
unidentified
And how's that happening?
donald j trump
I'm gonna have to ask, I don't know.
I'd ask Pam that question.
I don't know if you or Todd could give an answer to that.
Somebody has to bear some responsibility.
pam bondi
You know, and President Trump, I've always told parents, you gotta watch what your kids are doing on the internet, what they're doing online, who what they're listening to, what they're reading, they're all online, they're all on their phones all the time.
Parents have got to monitor that, because this starts when you're young.
This starts when you're young, when you listen to these groups, when you watch these shows, and parents have got to just be vigilant.
So, sure, that that's part of it, and they're meeting kids online who they think are kids, and they can be anywhere in the world and talking to them, and and yeah, they are being radicalized.
donald j trump
You know, he went bad, and he just went bad very quickly in a sense, because he sort of led a very normal life, uh a life of you know, great education, schools, everything else.
But uh somewhere along the line, something happened.
Yeah, please.
unidentified
Mr. President, uh, how will you send the National Guard into Chicago without cooperation of the governor and maybe well if they do cooperate, that's good.
donald j trump
If they don't, it's not gonna matter to us at all.
You know who wants to help us?
Police department.
They have no respect for the governor, they have no respect for the mayor.
They respect us.
And we found that in Washington, you know, we haven't had total support in Washington from government, as you know, from everybody.
I don't want to say the mayor because he was better than most, but we haven't had great, great, but we have had great support from the Metropolitan Police.
Uh they're like brothers of these people.
They're really like brothers.
You see that, they work together.
And so it uh if the governor wants to support, as I said to Bill, it's gonna be his uh proudest moment, what it's gonna do, the governor of Tennessee, what's gonna happen with Memphis in three or four weeks we'll stand together and we'll say, look at this, the crime has almost disappeared, maybe completely disappeared.
I mean, Washington, they don't even know how to record it because it's down so much, you know, they've never heard.
I heard 87% is down.
I said, really?
Who are the 13%?
Because it's more than that.
It's actually more hard to believe, right?
Uh, you're gonna have the same results in Chicago.
And uh, we hope we have the governor's help, but if we don't, we're doing it without him.
unidentified
And I'm just trying to say, Mr. President, you had the framework uh read to TikTok, for example.
Uh will China continue to have a stake in the company, or will it be?
donald j trump
Well, we haven't decided that, but uh, it looks to me, and I'm speaking to President Xi on Friday for confirmation of that, and you know, frankly, more importantly, a big deal.
And uh we've had very good meetings, as you know, we were in Europe, our people, Scott Bessant and Jameson or Jameson Greer and others, and it was a very big meeting with uh China, and you know, they're treating us with respect, we treat them with respect too, but it was very successful.
And on top of it, uh we have uh what could be a very good deal.
Don't forget, I've had more people say, could you try to keep TikTok alive?
I use TikTok.
I mean, I have to admit it in the election, and look how I did with you.
No Republicans come close.
I blew everyone away.
You know, if you if you look back not so long ago, Romney, he got like seven percent of the youth.
I got like eight times that amount.
I got I got tremendous numbers of youth.
By the way, I want to say Charlie helped me.
And Charlie was the one get on TikTok.
He used to say to me, get on TikTok.
Charlie was unbelievable.
So probably uh And I did.
I had somebody named TikTok Jack.
And he put that camera, he said, just a real quick statement, sir, like 10 seconds or less.
They didn't like anything over 10 seconds, but it worked.
But Charlie is the one that really uh and my son Barron also.
And I have to say, uh Don, Eric, the whole group, it's it's important.
And it can maybe even bring us closer to China.
We had a very good meeting with China.
I was surprised.
I didn't expect it to that extent.
And I'm going to speak again with President Xi on Friday.
And, you know, I think I think that'll confirm things up.
unidentified
I'm Charlie Kirk.
Do you plan to speak at the funeral?
And what would your message be?
donald j trump
Well, I'm going on Sunday.
We're taking a whole plane load.
Uh, and having uh I was invited on uh Saturday, but I said I'd rather save it for Sunday.
You know, we're gonna have uh have a stadium.
And I'll bet that stadium is gonna be uh pretty packed, maybe completely packed.
It's gonna be big, but I'm gonna be at the stadium, and I guess I'll say a few words.
I I don't know, but I guess I will.
But I knew him very well.
Uh he was an amazing guy.
It was an amazing guy.
He he was all about young people, getting them started right.
And he was uh like a magnet for young people.
They just attracted to him, he loved them, and they attracted to him.
His wife is a tremendous person, by the way.
He had he always had great respect for his wife.
He got married.
I was I didn't know he was getting married.
I heard he got married, and that's uh he loved her.
He really loved her.
She loved him.
And I think she'll have something to do with keeping the that whole thing going.
You know, turning point is it became a very big deal.
And I heard they had like 38,000.
So he wanted to get it up to 20,000 chapters.
That's a lot.
That would have been a lifetime's work.
I heard that over the last four days, they have 38,000 people want to 38,000 chapters at colleges, schools, other places.
Numbers that uh, you know, nobody's ever heard of numbers like that.
So I think turning point could be, you know, through what happened, this horrible act, it could be maybe bigger than it could have ever been uh had he been there.
And I will say this, you'd be very happy if he saw what was going on.
And there's some very good people because I speak at Turning Point quite a bit, and Charlie would call me up.
So the last time I spoke to him, he said, sir, and I think it was Phoenix.
Sir, could you uh get to Phoenix?
This was like in a day.
I said, Charlie, I'm the president of the United States.
You're coming asking me if I could speak tomorrow in Phoenix.
You can't do that to me, Charlie.
But usually I ended up going.
He was great.
He was a great guy, and he didn't deserve this.
They didn't deserve this, believe me.
unidentified
Mr. President, you said that he will not.
Omar, after his assassination, called Charlie Kerr a reprehensible human being.
Should she be stripped of her community assignments?
donald j trump
I would, I would say I think she's a disgraceful person.
You know, I think she's a disgraceful person, a loser.
Uh it's amazing the way people vote.
I know it's people from her area, maybe of the world.
I don't know.
They got here and they vote her in.
It's hard to believe, but uh, I think she's a disgusting person.
unidentified
And one more question about Hood.
A lot of these in recent of these trans shooters that we've seen over the last uh couple incidents.
This this flag right here is up and down 14th Street.
This is uh what would be the trans uh flag.
A lot of people are very threatened by this flag.
It means a lot of different negative things to people, violence.
Would you be opposed to taking this flag down up and down the streets of people?
donald j trump
Well, I wouldn't be, and then they'll sue and they'll get freedom of speech stuff, you know, so that'll happen, but I would I would have no problem with it.
I will say, and uh Steve might just mention this, Todd.
You might mention it too, because uh we're putting out an order.
You know, uh freedom of speech means you could burn the American flag, which I think is horrible.
But I noticed something over the last uh little while, you know, as you do this, you start noticing things that you wouldn't normally think.
Uh it really causes unrest and violence when they bury American flag.
So the American flag, I I wanted anybody who burns the American flag, go to jail based on freedom of speech, uh goes to jail immediately, but the freedom of speech protected them, right?
And so, and that are that's been argued a couple of times, and you know, it's one of those things.
But you know what?
Uh hasn't been argued, and we're gonna be arguing it, I think, very soon, and that's the violence.
They incite violence.
So when they I saw it just yesterday, they burned the American flag, and people that were there were fine.
And all of a sudden they're going crazy in this fist fights.
It wasn't in Memphis either.
But I will say that it incites violence.
And I think you go, you just do the exact Same thing.
Don't use freedom of speech.
Use the incitement of violence.
I mean, it's really you gotta see.
These people were going at it.
And you know, you could burn other things and people just sit there, they fall asleep.
You burn the American flag, and on both sides, but the level of violence I saw this flag burning cause was incredible.
It was an incitement.
So I hope you guys are going to be able to do that, Pam.
Right?
unidentified
Well, there's also Transtifa.
So perhaps if you can label them like domestic terrorist group, then you can in all reality, you could take that flag down because it would represent the trans team.
donald j trump
Well, I think you probably could.
You again, you'll be sued, and it's okay.
I've been sued before a couple of times, you may have said anyway.
unidentified
Um he doesn't rule out targeting Hamas um anywhere they are.
You said that you don't want to see uh Tadar hit again.
donald j trump
Do you um are there any guarantees that uh well he won't be hitting in uh Qatar, as I say, I call it Qatar, and you call it Qatar.
You're actually more right, but actually you're allowed to go.
The Emir said, you can say it any way you want, but I've always thought of it as Qatar.
I think it's a beautiful sound.
And actually, they've been a very good ally, and uh a lot of people don't know that, but he won't be hitting Qatar, but he will be uh maybe going after.
Now, there was an article that I read in a newspaper just about an hour ago, where Hamas said they're gonna use the 20 hostages as human shields.
They're gonna bring them up from the dark tunnels, and they're gonna put them in the line of fire so that if Israel goes forward, they're gonna die.
And I thought that was very terrible.
And I put out a statement on that, you saw that.
unidentified
But Charlie Kerr.
In retrospect, given all of the moving ways that this White House has paid tribute to Charlie Kerr.
Right.
Do you think it would have been fitting to lower the flags to have staff when Melissa Hortman, the Minnesota House Speaker, was gunned down by an assassin as well?
donald j trump
Uh I'm not familiar.
unidentified
The Minnesota House Speaker, a Democrat who was assassinated this summer.
donald j trump
Well, if the governor had asked me to do that, I would have done that.
But the governor of Minnesota didn't ask me.
I didn't uh I wouldn't have thought of that, uh, but I would have if somebody had asked me, people make requests for the lowering of flag, and oftentimes you have to say no because it would be a lot of lowering the flag would never be up.
Had the governor of Minnesota asked me to do that, I would have done that gladly.
unidentified
And given the killing of of Willis of Hortman, the attack on Paul Pelosi, the attack on Yabie Gifford's, the attack on the Pennsylvania governor's mansion.
Why make the case that violence is only on one side?
It seems to be taking a lot of people.
donald j trump
I didn't say it's on one side, but I say the radical left causes tremendous violence, and they seem to do it in a bigger way.
But the radical left really is uh cause a lot of problems for this country.
I really think they hate our country.
Okay, yeah, please.
unidentified
You're um this may be related to the RICO uh work that you're doing, and I'd like to confirm.
donald j trump
And we are really looking at that seriously.
unidentified
Vice President Vance was speaking with uh Stephen Miller earlier today about targeting NGOs, and they were saying foment violence.
Right.
Is that that?
Can you speak more to that?
And what NGOs specifically are you looking to target?
donald j trump
A number of them.
Steve, please.
stephen miller
Yes, so I believe what you're referring to is there are these nonprofit entities that organized as the president mentioned attacks on ICE officers, attacks on border patrol agents, organized doxing campaigns, which are a violation of federal law.
They break off cement and they bring into riots.
They have organized drop points for weapons, organized drop points for a gas mask, organized drop points for all the materials necessary to launch a riot.
Of course, you saw that during the Black Lives Matter rights as well, too.
So there's this whole network of organizations.
And I think the key point the president's been making is somebody is paying for all of this.
This is not happening for free.
And so, under the president's direction, the attorney in general is gonna find out who is paying for it, and they will now be criminally liable for paying for violence.
donald j trump
And you know, uh a new thing that I've been seeing a lot of lately, but never saw before, is uh they're walking in with bricks and rocks and everything, and uh the FBI or the uh border patrol or ice and or the police are grabbing them and taking them away, and that's great.
And then they whip out, and then they whip out a hammer, and it's a beautiful hammer, really.
It's nice, you know.
This is not a hammer, somebody happens up, these are serious hammers, beautiful, brand new hammers, and they start breaking up the concrete sidewalks and the granite curbs in many cases.
granite is hard to cut you know it's very hard stone and they're banging away and handing out pieces of stone so instead of uh having it in bags they're banging the sidewalk knocking that you have to see what some of these sidewalks look like when they finish and especially the curbs because the granite curbs are very very expensive and they're great and you know very hard very they they are almost indestructible but not when it gets pounded on for 20 minutes by some pretty strong guy and then they hand out big chunks of stone so
that people can throw them at the police and people can drop them off bridges into car car windows uh no we have a long way to go and we're going to make it all good we're going to make it really safe this country is going to be safe we've got almost three and a half years think of that three and a half years it's a long time it goes quickly but at the end of that time i hope one of the many things we can say is that we made our cities safe again.
Thank you very much, everybody.
steve bannon
Thank you.
So President Trump said right there, yeah.
And they've already got, it looks like the Justice Department is pulling together RICO.
We're going to have a couple of clips on this in just a second.
But today's been explosive developments in the case.
But the single biggest thing the folks should understand about what you're seeing out there, this has pivoted now off of just being a sole investigation on one murder.
The assassination of Charlie Kirk by one guy who still, as much as they keep throwing up, you know, boom, boom, boom, throwing it on the wall, giving it to Fox, leaking it to somebody.
We still haven't had an organized effort, which we're pushing for to kind of go to a brief, one brief by law enforcement, FBI and DOJ, to kind of get organized in this and put everything out that's appropriate to be put out.
But right there you saw the president of the United States responding to what the war has been calling for from the very beginning.
Designate Antifa a domestic terrorist organization or just a terrorist organization.
Then you get into the international part of it as Stephen Miller, the great Stephen Miller said right there on what Antifa is doing out in Portland.
You get in back of finding out who's financing all this, who's financing the doxing of the ICE agents, who is who is financing the nightly takedown, which I think there's eight or 10 blocks that you could just declare martial law.
And so tremendous developments.
President Trump is taking the lessons of D.C., of which Miller told us the greatest drop in crime in the nation's history in 30 days.
They're in a fight now with Chicago.
I say screw it.
You should just send them.
But they're working that through.
They're sending them to Memphis, Tennessee.
And you saw the entire task force right there.
That task force put on Antifa.
You're going to have some changes.
This is how the radicals are going to get taken out right there with government power.
a we have a couple of clips uh let's do we have time to play it is it's not too long for 651 let's go ahead and play uh we've got some clips on this domestic terrorist situation let's go ahead and play them we'll come back to the war right after that to turn this into a broader investigation a deeper investigation and all we need all we need is to get you know designate Antifa and trans and the Trans Tifa, the Trantifa, whatever the subset of this, domestic terrorist organizations, right?
And then start what you can do then on financing, what you can do on people that assist them, politicians that assist them.
Also, maybe you go in a five or six block area or ten block square area in Portland and help the poor working class people there out there every night and declare martial law there and clean up that mess.
Remember last night you saw him mocking President Trump on the ice on these brave, brave, brave, brave, brave folks on ice.
Incredible.
unidentified
Given all the uh that's going on, Charlie Kirk's assassination and the left wing, uh left wing uh violence going on.
Do you have plans?
And actually, this is a great opportunity with all these uh uh do you plan on designating uh Antifa family, a domestic terror organization.
donald j trump
Well, it's uh something I would do, yeah.
If I have support from the people back here, I think would start with Pam, I think, but I would if you give me uh I would do that a hundred percent, and others also, by the way.
But Antifa is terrible.
unidentified
Are there other groups that you give me?
donald j trump
There are other groups, yeah.
There are other groups.
We have some pretty radical groups, and they got away with murder.
And also uh I've been speaking to the attorney general about uh bringing RICO against some of the people that you've been reading about that have been putting up millions and millions of dollars for agitation.
This is these aren't protests, these are crimes what they're doing, where they're throwing bricks at uh cars of the uh of ice and border patrol, and they come in with beautiful new car, they're so proud, it's border patrol, ice, you know, it's got whatever it is, and they're throwing rocks at it.
And after 50 yards, it looks like an old beat up vehicle, it was just brand new, it's just bought for the purposes, and they don't have to take that anymore.
I let it be known.
We'll take responsibility, they don't have to take it anymore, and they don't want to take it.
They were told uh by a past administration, it became almost a culture.
If somebody throws a rock at you, do nothing.
If somebody spits in your face, do nothing.
And I say when they spit, you hit.
Do whatever you want, you do whatever the hell you want.
I watch it where I watched it so sick, it made me for four years.
I had to sit home and watch uh people screaming at policemen and spitting in their face, and they weren't able to do anything.
They just had a grin and bear there standing up like a piece of steel, and then woman in many cases, women.
You can see they're professional agitators.
I had one the other night.
I had four the other night, all in one group, total phonies.
I started to scream when I got into a restaurant.
Oh, you know, something with Palestine.
I said, Well, I'm doing a great job for peace in the Middle East.
I should get lots of awards for that, right?
With the Abraham Accords and everything else.
But a woman just stood up and started screaming, and she got booed out of the place too.
The people, there were a lot of people in the restaurant.
I went there to show how safe, and it was safe.
I mean, the woman is just a mouthpiece, all she was.
She was a paid, she was a paid agitator, and you have a lot of them.
And I've asked Pam to look into that in terms of Rico, bringing RICO cases against the criminal Rico, because they should be put in jail.
What they're doing to this country is really uh subversive.
steve bannon
We'll play that again in the second hour.
President Trump in the Oval Office saying he is open to, and it looks like a lot of nod around the uh table of guys have been working on it, designating Antifa, a terrorist organization.
What does this do?
Remember the three levels of these radical organizations.
Yeah, the foot soldiers in the front, those are the skinny guys in uh in mask, or the shooter uh in the Charlie Kirk assassination, or the tranny roommate, or the furries, all that.
That that's kind of the the lowest level.
They radicalize these kids, uh, they get them into the transgender movement, the dark web does that to uh to uh transform uh these kids to twist uh their thinking.
They're the foot soldiers.
Then you have a whole nother group of very serious, a lot of special, not a lot, some special forces and others have been in the military uh to train these people because they're they're trained.
As Tage Gill says he thinks they'll fold like a cheap suit once you dropped a hammer on them, but they're trained and they got they've got training, they've got uh you do have folks in the military.
That's the second that's that second tier.
It wasn't extremism or white nationalism, what it infected the military is that of course Biden and the Biden Justice Department, Merrick Garland, everybody focused on patriotic Americans.
Then you have the third layer, and that's the politicians, the media, the operational aspect, and the financing.
Not just source and this, either even deeper and darker than that.
And I believe you will find foreign governments that are putting money into this.
This is this is what they're trying to drive the chaos in the United States.
You will find if you designate a terrorist organization, you'll have even more powers than Criminal Rico to go after them and get uh all their bank records, freeze their accounts, get all the phones, everything to take this down.
That's when you start to have a serious investigation.
It becomes much broader and much wider than just some uh kid that uh, you know, uh they transformed into an Antifa hater, right?
Because he had a uh tranny roommate, right, who is also happening to be a furry, and every day they're kind of dripping and drop it.
It is not a single murder.
There's something here much deeper at play.
Remember, we don't believe in coincidences in the war room, particularly the coincidence of the guy just randomly up there asking the question about transgender violence at the very moment that Charlie Kirk is cut down by an assassin's bullet, not buying it.
Got to break it all apart and get to the bottom of all of it.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna be packed.
President Trump took 40 minutes of our time, and you know what?
It's the best 40 minutes we spent all day in the war room.
President Trump dropping the hammer, sending a task force to Memphis to clean it up just like they cleaned up DC, told Chicago, hey, don't think you're off the hook.
We're coming there.
The cavalry is coming to save the citizens against these corrupt politicians.
So much more going on from the Oval Office today, we'll report it all.
Also have a couple of special guests.
We're also going to Indiana.
Remember, it's nine to nothing.
That's Indiana, not eight-one.
We need nine house seats redistrict back in a moment.
unidentified
Stephen K. Bass.
steve bannon
I'll play some clips in the second hour, but I want to get to this right away.
Uh Phil Lyman uh joins me from uh Utah.
Sir, you ran for governor, you've been very involved in politics.
I think one of the things that's disturbing people is Governor Cox, who's up to his neck, and I've advocated today, it hit media, it's all over, it's gone viral.
That he's part of actually a broader investigation with this social emotional learning.
What he's done to the school system.
Remember, he came on what's Zoom a couple of years ago during the pandemic.
I think he was doing uh uh you know DEI and all this transgender.
He was talking about pronouns, he gave his pronouns.
Uh, he's all happy clappy.
One of the issues you're gonna find in this investigation is this they have a they have a big trans problem.
I think a terrorist cell, and that's why, and they're a subset of Antifa.
That's why designating Antifa as a terrorist organization is gonna get to the bottom of it.
Uh, but then you had Jeff Flay come on, uh Dana Bash this afternoon, and he's saying Cox is perfect, Cox is saying what the nation needs to hear.
Cox is gonna be part of the I tell you, Cox office, dude.
You're gonna be part of you're gonna be investigated because you are part of the problem, you're not part of the solution.
Uh, thoughts, Phil Lyman.
phil lyman
Yeah, Steve, I think you said this morning that that they're they're part of the dying Republican Party.
That's the that's the side of the Republican Party that needs to go away because they're not Republicans and and they don't have our values.
And I'll tell you one thing that you know, I was there on Wednesday.
I was I spoke I spoke to Charlie in advance of that, and he brings the party with him, and it was a party.
I mean, he's throwing hats, and these kids, they looks they look to Charlie so much.
Turns out they don't like being lied to any more than the rest of us do.
And when they see things that happen that don't add up, it's hard to it's hard to fool these kids.
They've got their cameras, they're watching these things happen.
So I I went up top, the back of the venue, right when the gun, right when the gunshot happened.
Now, I don't know if it was a gunshot, I don't even know what what all of that was at this point.
But the thing I noticed is that there were some people while everyone was hiding behind the the you know, retaining walls and ducking down and you know, wondering what's gonna come next.
There were a group of kids who were not hiding.
And and it was kind of the LGBTQ.
I walked right over and I said, uh, and I heard one of them, you know, utter a real nasty epithet, not to Charlie Kirk, or not not, yeah, not to Charlie Kirk, but to the crowd that's running away.
You know, um you know, go F yourselves type of thing.
And and I and I said, Was that gunshot not right here?
And and and they said, Yeah, it was right over there.
The point being, they weren't afraid.
They knew something.
They knew something that the rest of the people in that crowd didn't know.
They were not afraid.
If the gunshot was right over there, if the gunshot was right behind them, why are they not hitting the ground?
Why aren't they not running?
Why are they not concerned?
steve bannon
Hold it.
phil lyman
You know, I was afraid it was gonna turn into a mass shooting.
steve bannon
So I'm at where is this coming from?
Hang on, hang on.
Hang on, slow down, slow down.
Um I want to hit rewind.
And we're gonna keep here for a few minutes.
We got Alex DeGrasse coming up the next hour.
No, no.
So you went, because you're a big supporter of Charlie, you know him.
You went actually to Utah Valley University that day to either see Charlie and it kind of see, and look, it was what 3,000, 4,000 folks.
It's it's a big crowd.
You went down there.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
So talk to me about beforehand as you get there.
Take your time.
Before before the shooting, before anything like that.
Was it the typical kind of Charlie at uh Charlie at uh at the universe?
Because I think it started noon.
He was shot at 12 uh 23.
I think it started a few minutes late, but the first part was just Charlie being Charlie throwing the hats out and the thing and getting the kids all uh all jacked up to ask some questions.
phil lyman
Yeah, uh, so I went back, uh, was invited again.
These these turning point chapters are amazing, and and I happened to have a really good rapport with a lot of the students.
And they said, Hey, come down.
We want you to we want you to be here, we we want you to meet Charlie.
So I went back with them and and that was till about 12, you know, about five minutes after 12.
Uh I was talking to him right up until then, said thanks for coming to Utah.
So I walked up there with him and all these kids, and his, you know, his security detail.
And he's throwing out hats, and I'm just watching and think, you know, this is a this is a magical time and a happy time.
These kids are excited.
Uh he's blowing kisses to the protesters because there were some of them that were yelling epitests at him.
And uh, and I thought this is this is a really important individual in the lives of these kids.
And he's changing lives.
And this is this is an exciting time.
We're we're witnessing these changes.
Uh and so I stayed right there until the questions started coming.
And then I thought, well, I want to get some of my friends who are who are still in route, meet them, get them down here so maybe they can shake Charlie's hand, say hello to him after he's after he's done.
So that's so I went back to the far end of the the eastern end of the uh amphitheater there, uh, which is which is layered up, so I was up at the top.
Uh and I and and yeah, so that that's kind of what happened up until that point.
It's funny because I was standing there next to a young man, he was a handicapped individual, and uh and he said, uh, hey, do you know Charlie Kirk?
And I said, I do.
And he said, Can you get me a hat?
And I said, I can.
And right about that time, Charlie was coming and he's chucking hats and you know, thousands of people screaming, and I and I just raised my hand and said, Hey, Charlie, over here.
And uh, and he looked over, and I think he looked at me like kind of like, what you want me to throw you a hat?
And he's like, but and I pointed and he and when he saw the individual, he didn't, he was he was almost to throw the hat, and when he saw the individual, he stopped and he came over and he handed it to him with the biggest smile on his face.
And I just thought, that's that's a class, that's a class act.
That's a good, that's a good person.
And anyone that is around Charlie Kirk, you feel it.
You feel like that's a good person.
steve bannon
So then, so you're towards the back because you're gonna meet your friends because they're asked they're doing the QA thing.
This is the uh this is where Charlie takes on everybody and and lets the people disagree up front.
unidentified
Right.
steve bannon
Uh you're still only a couple minutes into it.
I think he was only at to the first couple of questions.
Um then tell me what happens when you hear do you actually hear what you believe is uh is a uh and you're it's tiered, so you're all the way towards the back.
Is that where you I tell you what, uh Phil, can you hang on for a second?
We're gonna go to a short commercial break, and I want to make sure we take plenty of time to delve into this because um as I said uh at the very first, remember uh we went out to uh we went out to uh Utah right away.
Poso was gonna come with us.
We left right after uh Charlie was shot or after the evening show.
I think we pre-recorded the the first second part of it and uh and took off right after five o'clock.
Posa was gonna come with us, but Poso, I thought we'd better deploy him.
He was doing a lot of media, the CNN hits and all these hits uh to make sure he got the word out on Charlie.
So we flew out there where we spent, I think, three days in Utah, uh, and it was kind of a wake-up call for us about a lot of what's going on there.
Don't think that Utah, don't think Utah is the Utah you remember of being like um the redest of the red states.
It's just not true.
But a lot of people could tell immediately there was a lot more in back of this, and questions weren't being answered, and the videos just didn't make sense.
And that's why we started to, you know, contact people we know in the government, in the administration, and let our voices be heard.
Plus, on the show, and the war in posse was amazing.
You were lighting people up.
We got to get to the bottom of it.
The president of the United States in the Oval Office says not just he's open to, he's kind of gone to do, he's gonna designate Antifa as a terrorist organization and have a full-throated deep investigation of what's going on.
Phil Lyman's story is pretty shocking.
When you hear an eyewitness account of what the huh, the furries and the LGBTQ weren't afraid of the gunfire.
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