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Sept. 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4765: Victory In Michigan; Inside The Mar-a-Lago Raid
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christina bobb
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mike lindell
07:55
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steve bannon
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alex degrasse
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mark mitchell
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unidentified
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's not got a free shot on all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Waru, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
It's Tuesday, 9 September, Year of our Lord, 2025.
steve bannon
One of my favorite people in the world has joined us in studio, The Christina Bob, on a great day in Michigan.
Your new book, Hang With Us, You're Hooked Up.
unidentified
I got DeGrasse and Mitchell Mike Lindell's with us.
So DeGrasse, just to finish this on, and by the way, Christina Bob's now over at Judicial Watch.
steve bannon
Talk about a group of fighters.
unidentified
Woo!
It's a barroom brawl crowd over there fitting these guys.
DeGrasse, just walk me through some numbers.
steve bannon
Where are we in Ohio?
unidentified
Where are we in Indiana?
Where are we in Kentucky?
Because folks, let me be blunt.
steve bannon
We need to do these.
unidentified
Florida, guys, it's got to happen.
steve bannon
Texas, we need another couple of three.
The Democrats are full on.
unidentified
I want people, I want your nose-rubbed in this.
All this talk up here, Mark Elias every night.
Oh, these are anti-California has the fifth or sixth biggest economy in the world.
Roughly 40% of the folks out there vote Republican.
You've got 43 Democrat seats, nine Republican.
steve bannon
They're changing it for 48 to four.
Four.
unidentified
New England, I think it's 25 seats to nothing for Republicans, and you got 40% of the vote.
steve bannon
They don't care.
unidentified
They play Smashmouth.
steve bannon
We need to play Smash Mouth.
unidentified
There's no prisoners here.
This is a no-prisoners game.
steve bannon
DeGrasse, so where do we stand with the Kentucky?
Come on, folks.
unidentified
The good folks in Kentucky, in Indiana, I mean, this is the heartland of the country.
steve bannon
This is the backbone of the nation.
Where do we stand with these?
unidentified
In Ohio, the brothers in Ohio, man, the brothers and sisters out there are hardcore MAGA.
steve bannon
That's a railhead of MAGA.
unidentified
Help.
Trump's winning by nine or 10 points.
They're all ours.
steve bannon
Take all the seats.
unidentified
In Missouri, I love Missouri.
steve bannon
Go back and get the seat in St. Louis.
The Democrats would not leave that on the table.
unidentified
No mercy.
No prisoners.
steve bannon
Maximalists.
You have to do it because now they're not, they play, they've already, they're more, as DeGrasse said when he came on.
unidentified
California today is more gerrymandered than Texas after we picked up the extra five.
And they're going, they're a maximalist strategy.
By the way, if Newsom thought he could choke out and get the other four, he'd take the other four.
They went in twice.
steve bannon
So where are we, DeGrasse?
unidentified
So that's right.
alex degrasse
So Indiana, we're hoping for the one.
unidentified
They're a little bit of a log jam.
alex degrasse
So actually, some news here.
unidentified
Brushowitz, Raheem, myself, some MAGA Patriots.
alex degrasse
We're going to be there this weekend, Steve.
unidentified
Otherwise, I'd be up in New York.
And we're going to be hosting the Hoosier Leadership for America.
alex degrasse
We'll be having a panel and a massive rally with hundreds of Patriots.
We're going to be going through the specifics on the redistricting, and we're going to try to jam some of these folks and get this thing across the finish line.
It's going to be a huge media event.
unidentified
And so we're pushing the album.
alex degrasse
I'm going to post details to sign up for the Posse.
It's a free event.
unidentified
When is that going to be?
Isn't there a state law in Indiana that Brusowitz and Raheem can't be in the state together at any one time?
Who the hell said, Mark Elias, suck on that.
You've got revolutionaries coming to Indiana.
Where's it going to be?
Where do people go get tickets for that?
I'm going to give you the details.
alex degrasse
So, Senator Jim Banks will be there.
unidentified
He's obviously leading the fight and pushing on the redistricting front and how important this is to pick up that one seat.
alex degrasse
And it's going to be about 45 minutes north of Indianapolis.
unidentified
I'm going to get the details at a hotel.
It's free.
I'm going to have to make sure you guys can put it up maybe on the you guys can put it out to folks.
It's going to be, I mean, a lot of, we already have about 400 RSVPs just off the gate and it's going to be huge.
So we'll get that going.
But the reality is, we need Missouri.
If we can get that other one, great, right?
We need Florida three.
alex degrasse
We need Ohio three, ideally.
Kentucky, we could easily get one.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
unidentified
Slow down.
What do you mean, Florida three?
steve bannon
Florida, five.
unidentified
Anything soft on me?
Five.
Come on, man.
That's right.
We easily can.
I think Paris paid for it.
You wait till 2026 on that election day.
steve bannon
You're going to be damn glad you get those other two in Florida.
unidentified
This is maximalization because the Democrats are going to get Maryland.
They're going to come back and get a couple of three.
We got to net out 10 to 15 here.
Net.
What about Ohio?
We're getting three out of there.
Three.
Yeah, that's right.
That's the word.
Okay.
Where do people go?
steve bannon
We need to stay up on top of this every day like we did back in 21 and 22.
So where do people go?
unidentified
You're officially taking leadership now because Mark Elias, all these guys, they're into it.
And they're getting momentum off of California.
Now, I'm going to have some people from California have some polling.
They're going to come on this afternoon show.
steve bannon
Like I said, everything there is subject to time availability.
The president is going to be sending a proclamation.
unidentified
And knowing the president, he may say a couple of three words and then he may take a couple of three questions.
So time permitting where to do that.
If not, we'll do it tomorrow morning.
steve bannon
DeGrasse, where do people go to find out exactly your thinking on this and also to get access to Alex Brusowich and Raheem Kassam in Indiana?
unidentified
Wow.
We got to make sure we get plenty of video and photographs of that.
So where do people go to get you, sir?
I'm going to get DeGrasse 81.
I'm going to throw some stuff on social.
alex degrasse
I'll work with Grace and make sure you guys can put that out on the signup form for folks.
unidentified
I think just quickly, Steve, I mean, Obama, you know, just with my family and stuff, they're saying, hey, Obama's doing all these fundraisers on Mark's Vineyard, which he doesn't do a lot of, Steve.
alex degrasse
And this, I don't think this has been reported, but all of the money that Obama's raising is going into the Democrats for districting operation is run by Eric Holder.
unidentified
They're playing absolute smash mouth.
They've got, I'm sure, plans in other states, and we've got to be ready.
alex degrasse
That's why we have to net everything we can now on every avenue, every vector, because it's going to be an absolute knife fight over the next four years, Steve.
unidentified
But thank you for everything that everyone's doing.
And thank you for having me on.
Perfect.
steve bannon
Great, great report, Alex.
Appreciate you.
unidentified
Before I pivot, I got Christina Bob.
We're going to get into this great victory today in Michigan in her book, Defiant, because she is defiant, and been with us from the beginning.
Mark Mitchell, you've got some incredible polling on this.
steve bannon
I call this generation, this young generation coming up to the most based ever.
unidentified
And you're like whimpering and whining, oh, it's so bad.
steve bannon
They're not conservative.
unidentified
No, they're populist nationalists, man.
They're coming for it.
These are this new generation of warriors.
These young men and women, boom, they're ready to hit it.
steve bannon
Tell me what you're polling because I know over at the White House, they're going through your polling like they're going through like some archaeologists would check the Rosetta Stone, right?
So walk us through what you found.
unidentified
I mean, this will punch them in the face.
It's pretty obvious when they take a look at it.
And there's not going to be a lot of happy talk, especially if you're a Republican Party guy.
So maybe I'll get the good news out of the way first.
mark mitchell
It's like there are probably some long-term things that the Republicans have in their favor, like the 2030 census, maybe fixing all the errors in the 2020 census, booting illegal aliens out of it.
unidentified
And maybe like you were talking about redistricting.
The problem is November of 26.
mark mitchell
And I don't see a lot of action out of Republicans right now at all.
unidentified
It seems like they think they're just going to coast through and maintain a House majority on Trump's coattails.
And let me tell you, that is not the case.
There's a lot of headlines out there about how conservative the Zoomers are.
And they are not.
Like you said, they are economic populists.
They are not happy with the way the system is.
65% of them think that it's completely unfair to young people.
And the numbers are horrifying.
17% unemployment rates.
Half of them are single.
Of the people who are single, only 35% of them are trying to find life partners.
Only half of them think that they're confident that they'll own a home.
And so we get really ridiculous results, including 53% of 18 to 39-year-olds would prefer that a Democrat socialist win in 2028.
It wins by almost 20 points.
And so Donald Trump, like, here's the thing: his numbers have been doing better and better over the years with 18 to 39-year-olds.
He only lost by about four points in our polling.
But the Republicans, they're down 16 points on the generic ballots with 18 to 29-year-olds.
They're absolutely going to get crushed.
mark mitchell
They think that this like granddaddy's laissez-faire conservatism where the government just steps out of the way and the laugher curve and all that stuff is going to work for these people.
unidentified
And it's not.
mark mitchell
These people are hurting and they want change really fast.
unidentified
And if they're not going to get it out of the Trump administration, they're going to go into the arms of Bernie and AOC.
That's a fact.
Well, take me back to the sense of urgency because this is what particularly the lower information folks are.
The Democrats have a target of hate every day on everything they do.
That is President Trump.
And that's how they're jacking people up.
steve bannon
On our side, you have the Warren Posse and you have the Vanguard.
unidentified
But if you look out there to a lot of folks, they're just like, hey, Trump's in charge.
We have the House and the Senate.
We passed a big, beautiful bill.
Everything's fine.
steve bannon
That is not the case at all.
unidentified
And this gap between the intensity and urgency on the left is something we have to address now.
What did you find?
How bad is it?
Well, here's a really good example.
This is an 18 to 39-year-old likely voter survey.
mark mitchell
I have to thank the folks at Stopping Socialism, Justin Haskins, the Heartland Institute for sponsoring this.
It's free.
unidentified
People can go to rasmusreports.com, download the cross tabs, because there's a lot of stuff in here.
But here's one example.
mark mitchell
This is a sample that we waited to a Trump minus four recalled vote.
This is how it looked in November.
unidentified
Do you agree or disagree with this statement?
Major industries like healthcare, energy, and big tech should be nationalized to give more control and equity to the people.
If the Zoomers were really based, that number should be a pretty low number, but it's not.
mark mitchell
76% of 18 to 39-year-olds, at least some would agree with that.
unidentified
Almost 40% strongly agree.
But here's the problem.
It's not just the Democrats.
78% of self-ID'd Republican young people want major industries like healthcare and tech nationalized.
That's absolutely insane.
And it's a vast majority of Trump 2024 voters.
mark mitchell
So people did not vote for Trump because they're conservative.
unidentified
Yes, 79% of Trump 2024 voters want to nationalize major industries.
We have 57% of Trump 2024 voters wanting excess wealth confiscation.
These people are not just going to be happy with, you know, let's cut a few regulations, let's have some entitlement reforms.
The economic conditions that they have.
Young people in this country are screwed.
I've said for years they're treated like Russian serfs.
They don't own anything.
You're not going to own anything.
If that's the way, and I keep telling the doctor, if that's the system you want, you're going to get Luigi on one end and you're going to get Mamdani on the other.
Okay?
steve bannon
You've brought this on yourself.
I don't know.
unidentified
I back these kids in that they don't know the details of change, but it has to change.
Do we have to nationalize tech or big health?
steve bannon
But I don't know why we're giving massive, let's take SpaceX.
unidentified
Why you're giving, it's 100% government contracts.
You don't own anything.
Nobody owns anything of it.
100% government contracts.
He's going to do an IPO, I think.
I don't know.
At what, $300 billion or something?
steve bannon
He's just done a couple of privates.
unidentified
The system, you have to rethink the system.
These kids are not socialists, but they're sitting there, you know, kind of uneducated because we've had propaganda in the high schools and the colleges.
And they're sitting there going, I'm screwed.
I've worked hard.
My parents have worked hard.
My grandparents have worked hard.
My great-grandparents worked hard, and they're sitting here with nothing.
Don't think that the country owners don't exactly.
The Wall Stream Journal died.
The system works for the Wall Street.
The system works for you.
Yes.
The Wall Street Journal did a thorough polling a couple weeks ago that said, if you work hard, there's no reward at the end.
steve bannon
70% of the people do not believe if they work hard or work harder, there's any economic benefit.
You have to change that.
unidentified
You have to change that reality on the ground.
Mark, I want to get you back on later, and I'll talk to you afterwards, but I want to spend some time on the show going through the details of this because it couldn't be more important or more urgent.
In the interim, where they go on your YouTube, where they go on your social media to get all your information.
Yeah, there's an urgency to change the system.
mark mitchell
That's what the 18 to 39-year-olds want.
They want it burned down.
unidentified
Rasmussen underscore poll on Twitter, Honest Polster on Twitter, and we have a YouTube channel too.
mark mitchell
I'm going to have a video out later today going into these in detail.
unidentified
Rasmussen underscore poll.
Okay.
Well, I'm going to try to get you.
I'll call you after the show.
steve bannon
I'm going to try to get you back on tomorrow.
Mark Mitchell, a shocking new poll, and it dovetails exactly what the Wall Street Journal found.
unidentified
And you can't delay, can't kick the pan down the road.
You're not going to pat him on the head.
I'll say just, you know, the laugh or curve.
You know, Larry Kudlow and that plan doesn't work.
steve bannon
By the by, folks, as we talk about the CR that you're going to have to eat or the omnibus you're going to have to eat, if we did a reconciliation, first of all, we done last time, did last time, which is at the upper bracket, either have a snapback or a 40% tax.
unidentified
I don't think we'd be in this situation.
steve bannon
We wouldn't be out there trying to sell the big beautiful bill.
Now we have another reconciliation.
unidentified
Why not?
Million dollars and above, 40%.
Put a four on it.
steve bannon
Nice round number.
Oh, no, you can't do that.
unidentified
That's socialism.
steve bannon
That's okay.
unidentified
Then get ready, get your ass kicked in 26.
And then who knows about 28?
steve bannon
Are you interested in winning?
unidentified
Are you interested in conversation?
steve bannon
I'm not interested in conversation.
All that matters is victory.
unidentified
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steve bannon
Philip will be on the show this evening.
unidentified
Philip Patrick, plus, we're going to do California.
All of that.
One of my favorite people, Christina Bob.
The book is selling out everywhere.
Defiant.
You are Defiant.
steve bannon
Dan Floyd, my long-term 25-year producer who did the Rogues book, which is amazing.
unidentified
We're going to have a ton of those up at the festival this weekend at the America First Warehouse.
Amazing photography.
I don't want to say, Christina, because I know people are interested in you and voter integrity, but the photo sells the book.
I'll just be blunt.
steve bannon
The photo sells the book.
unidentified
Dan did a great job.
I'm so grateful.
Yeah.
And like I said, he did my website as well, ChristinaBobb.com, and there's a bunch of his photos up there.
And I'm grateful for every single one of them.
steve bannon
Talk to me.
unidentified
Because in the book, the reason it's serendipity that you're on the day that what happened.
steve bannon
So what happened in, in fact, can we get the clip ready?
unidentified
Tell me when the clip's ready for Michigan, the Michigan clip.
I want to play that.
And then because it's a big part of your book, tell me about the book overall.
Let's play the Michigan clip and I'm going to get Christina in here.
The courts weren't giving them what they wanted.
So in this courtroom, we don't really care your race, color, creed, national origins, religious belief, or your political beliefs, but we do care about the law and that we believe that it should be applied to protect every individual equally.
And I believe that they were executing their constitutional right to seek redress.
And that's based on the statements of all of the people's witnesses.
And so for those reasons, these cases will not be bound over to the circuit court.
Each case will be dismissed.
Okay, what did we just hear there?
christina bobb
That's incredible.
unidentified
I hadn't heard that sound clip, but that comes from the court in Michigan where she was hearing basically a motion to dismiss the alternate electors case.
The mainstream media has dubbed it as the fake electors case.
They were not fake electors.
They were legitimate Michigan Trump electors that had created an alternate slate of electors in order to preserve their right to be to cast their vote should Donald Trump win his challenges in the 2020 election.
Dana Nessel, the Democrat Attorney General, charged them all with forgery, which is ultimately what I'm charged with in Arizona and so many others in Nevada, Wisconsin.
christina bobb
All those cases are still open, by the way.
unidentified
People think that Georgia's open, Arizona's open, Nevada and Wisconsin.
And four is still open.
Yeah, well, and Michigan was until a few minutes ago.
And hopefully that'll be a template.
But you guys are also running up legal bills.
christina bobb
Right.
unidentified
The pressure on these, a lot of these electors are older.
100%.
steve bannon
And the pressure and the tension.
christina bobb
Some of them have lost homes.
unidentified
I've got friends that have lost their homes because they couldn't pay their legal bills and their mortgage and everything that's going on.
It is important to note, though, in Michigan, Dana Nessel brought two separate cases.
christina bobb
The electors case was the big one.
That was the one that had a whole bunch of people.
unidentified
That's the one that got thrown out, which is great.
A great ruling by a great judge.
Matt DiPerno is still facing his charges, which is the Antrim County issue.
And he had run Run against Dana Nessel, I wouldn't say 2022 or 2022.
And then she turned around and charged him.
He's been under indictment for two years at this point, and they still have not made a finding of probable cause.
So he's still got to fight his case.
They're still going after the case.
The book is defiant.
You were the lawyer of President Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
When you talk about fighting back and talk about this in the law fair, why is the book defiant?
What does it tell us?
And do you think we're punching back?
We got two things.
And Lindale's going to, we got two things.
It's one to get the elections right, get the platforms right, but the other is to hold accountable the people and adjudicate publicly the 2020 election and everything that happened afterwards and hold those accountable that use lawfare to come after us.
100%.
And so the way I like to summarize Defiant is when Donald Trump says they're not after me, they're after you.
I'm just in the way.
That's exactly what this book describes.
Because I had, I mean, I was just a reporter and then a staff attorney for the president in between elections.
And I had, I wouldn't say nine legal matters opened against me in three years.
I had the FBI, the Jupiter Police, the Palm Beach County Police.
Everybody show up at my house.
I was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
Did they go in your house and take your stuff?
No, I got subpoenaed and we volunteered.
I voluntarily cooperated.
But I was investigated by the Department of Justice, the FBI, the California State Bar, the state of Arizona.
I mean, sued by Dominion.
I was involved in all of it.
And it just goes, it's my story, but it's also the alternate.
I go into the alternate electors a little bit, but it goes to show that those of us who, you know, you get to see behind the scenes of the Mar-a-Lago stuff, I was there on site.
I tell you all the dirty details.
I give you the text messages, the emails, the correspondence prior to the raid, because I did meet with the Department of Justice and FBI about two months prior to the raid to discuss the documents.
Hold it, two months before the raid, and it's in the book.
Two months before the raid, you meet with Department of Justice and then they still come down and they kick down the doors and do a raid where they had the, remember they had the alternative where they're going to send people if they got hurt, if they got wounded, everything like that.
How did that work?
How did they not see the president was reaching out to them to try to work and cooperate?
Wild, Steve.
I cannot wait for people to read this book.
It is so different from the narrative that the mainstream media has told.
So I met with the president had his defense team, his defense counsel.
I was brought in as the custodian of records.
I was brought in to be a witness for the purpose of being a witness.
And I and the defense counsel met with the Department of Justice and the FBI at Mar-a-Lago.
The president invited them to Mar-a-Lago.
The president shows up to the meeting and says, hey, you know.
Who was the, because I think it's one of my lawyers.
Who was it was Evan.
Yeah, Evan.
Fabulous.
Fabulous guy.
Yeah.
And we were like, what, you know.
And they put him through.
They put him through the raid.
He actually had changed law firms, I think.
Yeah, and you can see, I mean, the story is in there.
You can see it.
But the impression that I have is that they lied to Evan.
They were misleading Evan and created a situation where they could lie to the court to create a situation where they could raid Mar-a-Lago.
Okay.
I don't think they were honest with Evan.
In other words, you're making the case here in the book that they had to set up.
They wanted to go raid Mar-a-Lago, humiliate the president, make it a big thing that he's finally dead and buried.
That, you know, now not only had he lost the election, he's an insurrectionist, but now you've had this classified information, all this.
So this is the kill shot on Trump.
Well, don't forget, I actually think they were trying to keep the raid hidden.
It wasn't the Department of Justice or FBI who exposed the raid.
It was Donald Trump after it was over.
I mean, it had been going on, I want to say, 10 hours.
They had kept quiet.
They didn't have sirens.
It was done very, very quietly.
President Trump was the one who announced it on True Social after it was over, which is very different.
We talked about this when they raided Bolton's home.
Cash came out right up front and said, hey, we've got a warrant.
We've got probable cause.
We're executing it.
He was very open, which to me, I had a lot of confidence in that.
But everything took place in Washington, D.C. Like all of the DOJ investigation, that was all coming out of D.C.
And I suspect, based on the subpoena and the fact that I got subpoenaed, had to testify in D.C., is that they were trying to create like a Hillary Clinton espionage type of scandal around the president, but they didn't have probable cause.
They never had probable cause to raid Mar-a-Lago, and they couldn't even establish probable cause to get an indictment in D.C., which is why they had to transfer it down to Florida, because now they have the entire world looking at them, going, why the heck did you raid Mar-a-Lago?
And they had to say something.
And so they created this stupid obstruction of justice case in Florida that everybody knew wasn't going to go anywhere.
They never wanted to charge Donald Trump with anything in Florida, but they had to because they could not get enough probable cause to even get an indictment in Washington, D.C. You and I both know you can indict a ham sandwich.
Wow.
I mean, Jack Smith and that crowd cannot get a probable cause indictment here.
Correct.
Wow.
This thing is totally now.
Why are we in a situation?
We've got a couple, the book's Defiant, right, by President Trump's lawyer, Christina Bobby.
And by the way, great pull quote by President Trump on the Christina is an incredible fighter and an incredible person.
Not too shabby.
Not too bad.
By the President of the United States.
Why do people, I must keep you through the next, through this break and keep you around, and Lyndale's going to join us.
Why should people buy this book?
Because you need to know the truth.
And when the media tries to manipulate you and say, oh, Donald Trump's weaponizing justice, oh, he is, you know, he's doing this to hurt the people who hurt him.
He is not.
He is doing it to hurt the people who hurt us, who came after us.
He is defending us by investigating what he's investigating now and going after the people who did this.
And they have made it expressly clear that they will not back down.
They will not stop prosecuting us, as we saw in Michigan today.
They're still going after us.
They will not stop prosecuting us until they are stopped.
And that's what Donald Trump is doing.
And if you read this, my hope is that you'll have a really good understanding of that.
And you'll get fired up.
The other thing, too, is that it's one of the powers of RAV, Real America's Voice, our channel here, in the war room, is that Fox doesn't touch this and Newsmax doesn't touch it.
Now, for a host of reasons, part is the lawsuits, but also it's not something they want to delve into.
They want to just get past 2020 and past all this like it never happened.
That's not, Trump does not want to get past it.
He wants to adjudicate this.
And it's really important that he does.
And I fully support his use of the justice system.
Of course, there needs to be probable cause and everything needs to be done according to the proposals.
You got to play by the rules.
You've got to play by the rules, but you've got to do it.
And so I think it's great that we have a president in office right now that's willing to do it.
And I'm hopeful, I think his cabinet appears to be working on that, but time will tell.
We'll see.
Do you think Justice Department and cash and those guys are doing enough in this topic?
I know they're swamped with everything else.
They just had two huge victories in the Supreme Court.
Yeah, I think they're trying.
I'm grateful that they're in there doing it.
We got to wait and see what happens.
But yeah.
Take a short break.
Christina Bob is with us.
Mike Lindell, who's all over the integrity of the platforms, is going to join us.
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Are you going to spend time?
Are you going to be orange is the new black for you?
Or what's going to go on here?
Orange has never really been my color, so I think I'm going to avoid that.
But I mean, they were trying.
They were trying to.
They wanted to break you.
Yeah.
And have you flip on the president?
Yeah, on the president, on Rudy, on anybody.
And the great thing about, like, I don't, I don't wish this on anybody, and all of my co-defendants are amazing people.
You know, I want them to do well.
But the great part about it is like nobody caved, you know, and they thought either Rudy or me.
No, it's incredible.
Of course, nobody caved.
You guys were all tough.
That's the amazing thing.
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This is what the lesson of Christina Bob is: is that if you don't have these people that dig in and say no way, right?
It's the only way we win because they want to break people.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's scary.
I mean, I love to put on the tough girl persona and be like, I'm tough.
I'm going to stop.
Yeah.
Like, I like everyone to think I'm invincible.
But at the end of the day, I mean, it's scary.
It's very scary what they're doing.
Not just about going to prison, but bankruptcy.
Am I going to go to jail?
Disbarred.
Am I going to get disbarred?
Am I going to lose my career?
You know, everything that I've worked for.
They burned my reputation to the ground for a while with some of these lawsuits about my reporting, which ended up getting, I ended up getting dismissed from those cases, which is great.
But no, they just try to destroy you in every possible way.
Mike Lindell, they've tried to destroy you, but you're indestructible.
Tell us where, first off, the big news coming out of Michigan today that the electors case has been dropped.
We need to do that in Nevada, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona.
Those are the big four left.
Your thoughts, Mike Lindell.
Well, first of all, Christina, you are such a brave hero.
I just got, it's so good to see you.
I love you, Mike.
You know, Steve, this is what, like Christina said, these were scare tactics, lawfare use that hadn't been used since the 1700s to this magnitude in our country, probably anywhere in the world in history.
They used it to scare everybody, to bankrupt everybody.
And this happening in Michigan today, that judge making that ruling, you guys, it's like this, this will, I believe it'll set a precedent.
We have broke through the biggest cover-up of the biggest crime the world has ever seen.
They tried to take our country without firing a shot.
Now, this is, you know, I won the $5 million challenge just a few months ago.
You see, these law fair is going to start crumbling.
They don't, back then, they needed to use these scare tactics.
But one of the things I want to say, Steve, is as we move forward, everybody, as these things start happening, you've got it.
We have to get the word out that, yes, this really happened in 2020 and other elections.
Our elections are the worst of any place in the world, and we have to secure them.
I just talked to the president the other day about this.
We need everybody to spread the word as these things start happening.
This should be big news.
And you're not going to see this news on Fox News, everybody.
You're not.
Okay.
You need to see this news.
Hey, these guys were charged, and they were charged, and it was all fake.
It was all false.
It was all lies.
And all the people that are still sitting out there with all this lawfare against them, I still got two, three billion dollars worth of lawsuits against me with these machine companies, but they push them out years and they, you know, and they're all going to go away.
But we have to spread the word so that when our great president comes out with the plan that is coming soon to secure our elections and get to where we need to, like all the other countries that don't have computers and use paper ballots hand counted, that everyone in the country wants the same thing of the people.
I don't care what party you're in.
The people have to be behind this and see what happened.
Mike, I got to ask you, just because you've been hit so hard on this too, and so many media articles have come out against you, with the amount of attacks that you got back in 2020, 2021, really up until present, with all of the articles and the stories coming out against you, when you won your $5 million issue and when you've been getting these victories, have you seen the same amount of media interest in your victories?
Oh, absolutely not.
I mean, I was surprised, though, when it did come out, the $5 million, it did get some coverage, but you'd think that had been the first thing on your Fox News or your Newsmax going, hey, look at Mike Lindell.
It was all true.
His evidence is true.
It is good.
But you don't see that.
Right now, when they're kind of on to me, where they attack me, and I use that to get the word out.
So of lately, the media is not attacking me.
If you Google my name, you see stuff that's two years, three years old.
I mean, it's old.
So they're kind of on to me that way.
But the stuff is still, the attacks still go on.
Here's the news that's out of me lately.
Keith Ellison of Minnesota has come after my Lindale Recovery Network.
The biggest attack, I just have to get a lawyer.
Just yesterday, we got a lawyer that will take the case.
Christina, I'll tell you one thing happening now and Steve is at least now lawyers are willing to come on and fight.
Before you had a lot of lawyers that were afraid because of what was happening to people like you, Christina, and Rudy and all these other lawyers that they were afraid to even take these cases.
So that part's changing at least, but the media is horrible and the foxes of the world are just as bad as the ones that attack.
Mike, just give us, I know you can't go into detail, but just give us kind of an overview.
What should we expect in the next couple of weeks when all this gets, you're saying this is going to get announced by President Trump, the White House, other people that are working on it?
What can people anticipate?
I really think what's going to happen over the next, it could be up to four weeks, you're going to see a lot of evidence.
We've had the evidence all along, all these evidence of stolen elections.
And you're going to see so much pour out of DC about what really happened in not just the 2020, but other elections, and to show how our election platforms, i.e. these computers, have to go, how we need, we've got to get rid of mail-in balloting or mail-in voting.
Over 100 countries have banned it.
Over 130 or 132 countries have banned computers.
You're going to see all this come out.
And the evidence is all this stuff is going to come out first, I believe.
And then it's our job to get the word out to everyone going, and where everyone's going, we've got, what are we going to do to secure our elections?
Then the president, I believe, is going to come out with the perfect plan, as he always does, problem solution.
But when he comes out with the solution, everybody's got to be behind him.
And that includes everybody, not just Republicans or Democrats.
I mean, I don't care if you're a conservative liberal.
The people of this country all want secure elections.
And that's what I believe that's the timing that's going to happen.
You're going to see so much in the next four to six weeks.
But when they do start pouring out the information, it's our job, everybody, to get the word out.
And so everyone's afraid going, hey, we got to secure our election.
I don't care what party you're in.
We've got to get, we have to get secure elections here.
And we need to do it before that.
The president said the other day, he put out, we have to do it before the midterms.
And now he's going to say we need to do it before the primaries and the midterms, which a lot of them are going on now.
Yeah, we need to do it right now.
Mike.
And hey, Steve, I want to say one more thing.
I want to say one more thing.
The president knows this is his number one thing that he knows is his, everything revolves around that, that everything else he could be doing could end up being in vain.
And we just did a poll in Minnesota.
Our election platforms, everybody, having secure elections, moved into the top three as far as what people are concerned about when they go to the go to the to vote for people.
So in a lot of states, it's number one now.
Instead of education, borders, and all this, it's our elections.
So people are realizing, Steve, how important it is.
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Keep grinding, Mike, and a big day in Michigan.
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Christina Bob is with us.
You're over at Judicial Watch right now.
I realize we can't go into the details of what you're working on.
But what is it like to be over there with Chris and Tom Fenton?
I mean, those guys are fighters.
They really are.
That's like a group of, I'd love them.
They're a group of thugs.
They are.
It's so great.
I'm so happy to be there.
I'm thrilled to be a part of the Judicial Watch team.
And it's pretty amazing.
Like, just being part of Judicial Watch.
You know, when I talk to folks and they ask me where I work or what I'm doing, I say I'm at Judicial Watch, and everybody goes, oh, wow, they're amazing.
So I feel like I get to step into a lot of the work that they've been doing for, I don't know, 40 years or however long.
So it's just an incredible organization.
Now, is it election integrity that you're working on or a whole wide range of things?
A wide range of things.
We do have a solid election integrity team.
Actually, we have a case going up to the Supreme Court, BOST.
We've got our team, I'm not on that case, but I'm excited to kind of watch them as they go through it.
And then I'm working on a lot of the law fair, exposing a lot of the law fair corruption.
And I'm in the midst of hopefully having some good stuff to report soon, but trying to pull that out.
People, a lot of people haven't known you over the years, but you've been with us for a long time.
Give us your background.
You're a Marine, and you became a reporter, and then you joined actually President Trump.
Walk us through the background.
Yeah, so I am an attorney.
I was a litigator by trade.
I joined the United States Marine Corps.
I did a tour in Afghanistan and Germany.
Came back, worked at the Department of Homeland Security.
And the first time you were in the United States, what did you learn in Afghanistan as a Marine?
You know, at the time, it was probably a little bit different than hindsight.
At the time, you learned the rules of engagement, law of armed conflict.
You had to sign off and everything that everybody on all the hits that they did.
Well, my boss did, but yes, I was there for all of that.
And then looking back at it, I can look at it and say, oh, it was a very corporate enterprise.
So something I didn't appreciate at the time.
But it's an industry, right?
War is an industry.
And I love that Donald Trump is trying to end all of that.
So that's great.
Yeah, and then so I joined his first administration.
I was the executive secretary at the Department of Homeland Security and then went to One American News where.
And that's when Homeland Security was turbulent.
Very turbulent.
Turbulent.
They would not, I mean, Kelly and then the woman that followed Kelly hated Trump.
Kirsten Nielsen.
Kirsten Nielsen and didn't want to implement any of the.
And that was the Miles Taylor.
I worked with Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs.
Like that was the team I worked with.
And Miles Taylor was the infamous anonymous.
And then he wasn't, and then he was again, but then he swears he's not lying.
Yeah.
Do you think he actually wrote the book?
I don't know.
I think.
The New York Times described it at the time.
Navarro was all over this.
And remember on this show would sit there and go, or later when we started the show, is saying he said that the New York Times said it was a cabinet equivalent position.
The guy's chief of staff over there.
Deputy Chief of Staff.
Deputy Chief of Staff.
Yes.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
The New York Times gun-decked that lied about it.
Totally.
About the piece they put in the Times and then later the book.
Yeah, he was deputy chief of staff.
And there were two, as you know, there's more than one deputy chief of staff.
So he's a Grundoon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he was like, oh, Christina Bob worked for me because I was the chief of staff, deputy chief of staff.
No, I worked for the other one.
Like he was on the policy side.
I was on the administration side.
So he has a.
That was a mess over there, wasn't it?
And they hated what President Trump was trying to implement.
They hated Miller.
They hated President Trump.
Anything President Trump did, this is folks to understand that everything President Trump has accomplished, this is why you got to deconstruct the administrative state.
I mean, you've seen it up close and personal.
Yeah.
Where they actually, the politicals, but the permanent folks will just sit there and block you.
No, that's true.
And I mean, Miles was a political appointee as well.
Think about that for a second.
We actually picked that guy.
Right.
Well, I mean, quite honestly, like, we picked Chris Krebs, too.
You know, like a lot of the people who did a lot of the damage.
Safest election in American history.
And he knew this, like, what is it, 24 hours after the election, or it was like within two weeks that he made that statement, and there had been zero investigation.
He had zero probable cause or reason for actually making that statement.
But he went out and did it, and then nobody corrected it.
And no, it was an absolute disaster.
But yeah, but I was part of that group.
That was what I did.
When did you leave?
And when did you leave Homeland Security?
I left right before the election, actually, which was an interesting time to leave because obviously I'm a huge Trump supporter and wanted to stay in thinking he was going to have a second term.
But I was blocked, right?
I was working with a bunch of people who hated the president.
And so I was like, I got to get out and maybe someday figure out how to get back in.
So I left, became a reporter.
It was kind of right as COVID hit.
And so it was kind of an odd stint to be in the middle of the day.
You were at Rightside Broadcasting.
One American News.
Well, I did.
I did some.
You're one American News.
One American News.
Yeah, it was One American News.
That was the highlight.
That's when they were on all the cable channels.
And they had the best, I thought the best news service, right?
They do these amazing packages.
Yeah, I'm really proud of the work that we did at One American News.
And that's where I got to cover the Arizona audit.
I was on the ground there every day.
I remember that.
Yeah, that was Christina Bob.
And remember the audit and that.
I was brawling by myself with the summer.
That was the spring of 21, correct?
Spring of 21.
Yeah.
And you guys were in all the way in the summer.
Guys were in Phoenix.
God, you're bringing back memories.
I know.
It feels like 100 years ago, but it was not that long ago.
So where do people get the?
Are you going to do any book signings?
You're going to do anything?
They have the Skyhorse signing thing set up for you?
I don't have anything set up right now.
I thought you're working on this.
I'm working on that.
I'd love to do some actual in-person book signings.
You can get it on Amazon.
It does say it sold out on Amazon, but that's a very short stint.
We have the books available.
They just need to get to the warehouse.
Do they go buy it on Amazon and then they have to go back multiple times?
Do you have a personal site they can go to Christinabob.com?
But then they don't count towards, will they count towards your time?
Yeah, it'll take you to there.
It'll take you to the Amazon site.
So, yeah.
And Amazon, you can buy it.
Don't worry about the temporary sold out.
Social media, where do people go for your accordance?
The Dan Fluette created website.
Where do people go?
Yeah, Christinabob.com.
I'm very proud of that.
I'm proud of the work that Dan did.
Dan's amazing.
The book's been a big hit, the rogues book.
But you're in that too, are you not?
I am, yeah.
Where do people go for social media?
Christina underscore Bob on X and Instagram.
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