Sept. 9, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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We are no longer in the muzzle velocity stage of this presidency, where Donald Trump is trying things and seeing what sticks. | |
| We are in the authoritarian consolidation stage of this presidency. | ||
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I want to be very clear about what I'm saying here. | |
| Donald Trump is corrupting the government. | ||
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He's using it to hound his enemies, to line his pockets, and to entrench his own power. | |
| He is corrupting it the way the Mafia would corrupt the industries it controlled. | ||
| You could still, under Mafia rule, get the trash picked up by cement. | ||
| But the point of those industries had become the preservation and expansion of the mafia's power and wealth. | ||
| This is what Donald Trump is doing to the government. | ||
| This is what Democrats cannot fund. | ||
| This is what they have to try to stop. | ||
| Just in the last few months, we've watched Trump fire the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics because he didn't like the jobs data. | ||
| We watched him fire the head of the Defense Intelligence Agency. | ||
| Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities have been completely and totally obliterated. | ||
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After the agency suggested that the administration strike on Iran only set their nuclear program back by a couple of months. | |
| We watched Trump muse about firing Jerome Powell because he wanted interest rates lower. | ||
| Powell, of course, being the chair of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| And now we're watching him try to fire Lisa Cook, a Federal Reserve governor for alleged mortgage fraud. | ||
| We've watched Trump sick his government on Senator Adam Schiff and Attorney General Tish James of New York. | ||
| Again, allegations of mortgage fraud. | ||
| I'm going to note that this is not coming after the Trump administration conducted an exhaustive review of the mortgage documents of every person serving in the executive branch right now. | ||
| This is just what authoritarian governments do. | ||
| They have a lot of information. | ||
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They look hard enough. | |
| And everyone has either done something wrong, or even if they haven't, you can cause them a lot of trouble by just saying they have. | ||
| We've watched Trump suggest the FCC should pull the broadcast licenses for NBC and ABC. | ||
| Because they are so biased and untruthful, an actual threat to our democracy. | ||
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We watched the Trump administration force the resignation of a series of Republican prosecutors because they would not drop their case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. | |
| And the Trump administration seemed to have decided it'd be more convenient to have Adams in their pocket than defending himself in court. | ||
| The Trump administration is weighing potential job offers for Mayor Adams. | ||
| John Bolton became a critic of Trump's after serving in his first administration. | ||
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No, I don't think he's competent to be president. | |
| I think that his political instincts are all about Donald Trump. | ||
| A couple of weeks ago, Trump's FBI raided his house. | ||
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Chris Christie, the former New Jersey governor, criticized Trump on TV. | |
| Donald Trump sees himself as the person who gets to decide everything. | ||
| He absolutely rejects the idea that there should be separation between criminal investigations and the politically elected leader of the United States. | ||
| When I listen to Chris speak his hate, I say, oh, what about the George Washington Bridge? | ||
| You know, he blamed other people, but he knew all about it. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| If they want to look at it, it's not for me. | ||
| If they want to look at it, they can. | ||
| Trump has an enemies list, and he's using the power of the federal government to punish and harass his foes. | ||
| I do want to put the post from the weekend up because this can never be normalized. | ||
| An American president sent out a tweet, essentially, it would be easy to understand it as a declaration of war against Americans living in an American city. | ||
| Miles Taylor, you know better than just about anyone how reluctantly General John Kelly spoke out and did a recorded interview ahead of the interview. | ||
| He warned about exactly this. | ||
| He did an interview after Secretary Mattis and General Mark Milley described Donald Trump as fascistic to the core. | ||
| That's a quote to Bob Woodward. | ||
| He did an interview where he confirms that Donald Trump meets all the technical definitions of a fascist, but he goes further and he describes what is wrong with putting U.S. troops on the streets of American cities and warns about its impact to the military. | ||
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Where are all those voices speaking out for what this does? | |
| Put that tweet up one more time. | ||
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I promise this is the last day we'll do that. | |
| What does this do to the military to have a president use them as propaganda against their fellow Americans? | ||
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Well, I think, Nicole, anyone who was trying to find a moment, or perhaps anyone who was waiting for a moment to say that we crossed over that line into Trump creating a fascist environment has got to look at the time stamp on that post and say it happened in that moment. | |
| You know, our friend Garrett Graff, the historian who you've had on before and who's been out there on the networks, you know, Garrett a couple of weeks ago said this in a fantastic post where he said, we've crossed that line. | ||
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And it's not always a bright line. | |
| But if you were doubtful about that, this type of tweet says it. | ||
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And you mentioned John Kelly. | |
| No, we're not talking about a random appointee inside the government. | ||
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We're talking about the guy that was by the president's side as the White House chief of staff. | |
| You talked about Jim Mattis. | ||
| We're talking about his Secretary of Defense. | ||
| We talked about these people who were there with him in these moments and who have attested that he had these fascistic impulses. | ||
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And now we are seeing it brought to life. | |
| I think this is deeply demoralizing to the United States military. | ||
| But to your question, Nicole, why aren't we seeing a lot of these folks speaking out? | ||
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I think the answer is fear. | |
| I mean, when you say that a man is going to act like a fascist, you know that means he's going to engage in intimidation and threats and he will try to destroy the lives of his critics. | ||
| Now, I would like to think some more of those critics are going to come back to the fore, but I know people personally who spoke out the past couple of years who've now gone to ground because they're terrified. | ||
| They've seen what's happened to me or John Bolton or Chris Krebs or go on down the list and they don't want it to happen to them. | ||
| Donald Trump is living out his authoritarian fantasies. | ||
| It's happened. | ||
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The Supreme Court allows Trump to X. Like beyond what we just learned on immigration today, we learned today that they are letting him fire an FTC commissioner, at least for now. | |
| And I want to share what Justice Amy Coney Barrett said earlier about these very rulings. | ||
| We're not deciding cases just for today. | ||
| And we're not deciding cases based on the president, as in the current occupant of the office. | ||
| We're deciding cases about the presidency. | ||
| So we're taking each case and we're looking at the question of presidential power as it comes. | ||
| Mark Joseph Stern, what do you make of that? | ||
| No, Justice Barrett, no. | ||
| For 90 years, the president was not allowed to fire FTC commissioners. | ||
| It is an independent agency. | ||
| The Supreme Court has unanimously held for 90 years that its members cannot be fired at will by the president. | ||
| Donald Trump fired an FTC commissioner, broke that 90-year precedent, And the Supreme Court today rewarded him, allowed him to take this shocking step toward absolute control over the federal government. | ||
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I really struggle to believe that the court would do this if it weren't a president with an R next to his name and quite possibly if it weren't Donald Trump himself. | |
| I think this court is continually siding with Trump over the shadow docket in order to avoid having to even put any meat on the bones of its decisions to explain, to justify itself to the American public, because some of these decisions are unjustifiable. | ||
| They're indefensible. | ||
| And so when the court issues these orders in the dead of night, when it doesn't sign the opinions, when it does all of this essentially anonymously, it allows these justices to favor Trump in a way that really contorts the law and precedent and leaves the American people wondering whatever happened to the idea of equal justice. | ||
| I think there's a lot of Americans, Mika, who voted for Donald Trump, who are waking up this morning and seeing the Supreme Court decision and saying, is this really the country that I live in? | ||
| Is this really what a 6'3 Supreme Court in the United States decided? | ||
| Yeah, sure, they want crime lowered. | ||
| Sure, they want illegal immigrants who are causing strife in their communities deported, but they don't want people who have been a part of the community for a long time-grandmothers, teachers, nurses, people who are institutions in our communities indiscriminately let go, getting pulled over because of the color of their skin, and getting their papers checked or whatever these ICE agents are doing, and then throwing them in the back of a car. | ||
| Many of these ICE agents, as we know, we've seen the pictures that the Trump administration can't hide from this. | ||
| We've seen the videos are not marked. | ||
| They're not wearing any sort of labeling that would suggest who they are. | ||
| They look like some of them are in plain clothes with masks on, grabbing people off their motorbikes, grabbing people out of their cars. | ||
| This was not what a lot of Americans signed up for when they voted for Donald Trump again. | ||
| And I think that's something this administration, going into the midterms, which are 14 months away, which is not very long, is going to have to figure out. | ||
| Like, is this going to be a political risk? | ||
| If this is something they even care about, because right now it is. | ||
| This is not what Americans, a lot of Americans want to see. | ||
| We've watched Trump deploy the National Guard to Los Angeles and then to Washington, D.C., with more cities expected to come under federal military occupation soon. | ||
| Well, we're going in. | ||
| I didn't say when. | ||
| We're going in. | ||
| We've watched masked ICE agents conducting raids all over the country, refusing to reveal their faces, badge numbers, or warrants. | ||
| We've watched Trump systematically purge the government of inspector generals, of JAGS, of military officers, of federal prosecutors. | ||
| Anyone who seems like they might stand in the way of his corruption or his accumulation or exercise of power. | ||
| It is an astonishing fact that the January 6th rioters have been pardoned and dozens of the Justice Department lawyers who prosecuted them have been fired. | ||
| You often hear this line: this is how authoritarianism happens. | ||
| No, this is authoritarianism happening. | ||
| Okay, Tuesday, 9th September in the year of our Lord 2025. | ||
| Let it be officially known after the Supreme Court ruling. | ||
| Actually, I think it built up before that, but from the Supreme Court rulings last night, that backed President Trump on what he's doing with the National Guard and what particularly he's doing on these potential mass deportations in these insurrectionist sanctuary cities like Los Angeles, | ||
| Chicago, New York City, Washington, D.C., which it's peace and prosperity in the Capitol today because of what President Trump has done. | ||
| They are officially in Melton. | ||
| That's Ezra Klein, I think from his podcast, right? | ||
| We've pulled that to kind of as a framing device. | ||
| Axios, if we can get, do I have the, did I get you the Axios story? | ||
| So Tal Axelrod has done an amazing story. | ||
| Some of it's from Charlie Kirk and Jack Pasovic, myself, the Real America Voice crew on our shows, also the podcast, and in addition, the national conservatism speeches last week. | ||
| That they said MAGA is all about focused on grabbing as much power as possible and as quickly as possible. | ||
| Remember the three things in this maximalization strategy. | ||
| Seize the institutions, a maximalist strategy, take it all the way to its logical conclusion and do it with a sense of urgency that we're burning daylight. | ||
| Now, here's the disconnect that we have. | ||
| You guys have it because you use your agency and we've had our, we've been back against the wall a couple of times, you know, during the pandemic, during the 2020 election, which they stole during the years in the wilderness of 21 and 22 until President Trump really announced right after the midterm elections. | ||
| But there is a general, the difference in the polling now, when you look at things politically, although the Democrats have not acted like an opposition party and are not organized, the sense of urgency on their side in the sense of because they have a focus of hate, they have a focus of pure hate, and that is President Trump. | ||
| And President Trump, their hatred of President Trump is motivating them as a motivating factor. | ||
| You don't have that with the Republicans. | ||
| And you don't even have that with some of MAGA because they said, hey, President Trump's elected. | ||
| We had this tremendous victory. | ||
| We can just lean on our race and let President Trump do it. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| President Trump needs amazing and massive backup. | ||
| We have to go fix bayonets on this. | ||
| Seize the institutions. | ||
| And you're seeing this happen from the Kennedy Center to the Smithsonian to the military to the Federal Reserve to the administrative state, all of it. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| Because the globalist and the neoliberal neocons have completely distorted and destroyed the promise of America with the American empire. | ||
| And that's what we need to take apart brick by brick. | ||
| This kind of post-war international rules-based order, which the elites in the world, the globalist elites, use to line their own pockets and destroy working-class people. | ||
| Socialize the risk, the downside, maximize unlimited upside. | ||
| That's the economic model. | ||
| And for them, it's worked. | ||
| This is why they hate so much what President Trump is doing. | ||
| And if you don't think this, if you don't think this is spreading around the world, I got the papers right here. | ||
| Japan, government falls, France, government falls. | ||
| They're going to put the screws to Macron this week. | ||
| They're going to try to force a presidential election. | ||
| In Norway, the populist picking up momentum, the populist nationalist. | ||
| Bolsonaro, they're getting more desperate in his trial down there. | ||
| Madura. | ||
| This Maduro situation, we've got to think through. | ||
| You know, no need to go starting wars here. | ||
| President Trump's a man of peace is on the shortlist for the Nobel Peace Prize because he's trying to do it in Ukraine and in Gaza. | ||
| Strike this morning, assassination, decapitation strike. | ||
| Ever heard that before? | ||
| In Qatar by the Israelis against the wait for it Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| Kill America's Voice family. | ||
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| That's the whole purpose of the show, to use your agency. | ||
| Right now, the agency of this movement in President Trump's government is number one, seize the institutions. | ||
| Because you seize the institutions, people go, these guys are anti-institutions. | ||
| No, we're anti-which you've allowed these institutions to become. | ||
| And they're going to be purged and they're going to be reconstructed. | ||
| And you see that happening right now with President Trump. | ||
| This makes permanent the revolution. | ||
| Institutions give you permanence. | ||
| That's why you have to seize the institutions. | ||
| Tal Axelrod over at Axios gets it. | ||
| He's got Charlie Kirk and Pozo, myself, and others talking about the sense of urgency that MAGA is looking to get more wins, more urgent wins, and do it now, now, now. | ||
| We're burning daylight. | ||
| And you have to have a maximalist strategy, maximalist. | ||
| You have the opportunity. | ||
| DeGrasse is going to join us in a moment. | ||
| And he, quite frankly, is the young architect of this. | ||
| In 22 and now, and all these people are running around taking credit. | ||
| Hey, in 22, he came boom here early on in the summer, and the focus was Texas, of which we should have taken eight states, eight districts, not five. | ||
| This afternoon, time permitting, we're going to have some people from California on to talk about what's going on out there because I'm not seeing it right now that we're going to stop that redistricting that Newsom's doing to launch his presidential campaign. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| So seize the institutions maximalist in a sense of urgency. | ||
| I can tell you in the polling right now, because so many, particularly the lower information, lower engagement, that's fine. | ||
| They're just not that interested in politics. | ||
| They're thinking, hey, President Trump's there. | ||
| I'm seeing every day. | ||
| I'm hearing it every day. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| We can just rest on our rakes and watch. | ||
| Obviously, that is an option. | ||
| But you can tell, you can see right now the Democrats with no real party in opposition, nothing on the policy side, just sitting there going in yammering and whining that Trump's a dictator, Trump's an authoritarian, Trump is this, Trump is that. | ||
| When he's trying to end all these wars, right? | ||
| He's trying to stop the kinetic part of the Third World War. | ||
| He's trying to deal with the safety of our own country and its sovereignty, not just by sealing the border, by going after the cartels, by going into these sanctuary cities, making sure we put good order and discipline there. | ||
| And he's going to Chicago. | ||
| Ben Berquam came up Operation Midway Blitz. | ||
| We kicked it off yesterday with Ben Berquam, who's an in-bed. | ||
| Ben can't join us this morning, but we're going to get Ben on this afternoon. | ||
| Time permitting. | ||
| Ben will be with us this afternoon to go after that. | ||
| And right now they're narrow casting that as ICE raids, more ICE enforcement, the beginning of not just bad ombres, but leading to mass deportations. | ||
| President Trump's policies, I think Cortez was on Gutfeld. | ||
| I think he said it's over a million self-deportations. | ||
| We need a lot more. | ||
| Now that we have the resources, we have to go to the mass deportations phase. | ||
| DeGrasse is going to be here on and haven't seen Commerce come out and announce the census. | ||
| We have to do that. | ||
| We need a mid-decade census. | ||
| But until that time, we need to take, I don't know, on a gross number, not netting out California anything else, I think you can get to 15 seats plus, right? | ||
| You got Texas for five, Florida for five. | ||
| Maximalist. | ||
| You must maximize. | ||
| We have to go full maximalist right now because this is what they do. | ||
| This is why the conservatives have never put a dent into this entire apparatus after all those victories. | ||
| It was to play by their rules. | ||
| We're not playing by their rules. | ||
| We're playing by Trump's rules. | ||
| New rules. | ||
| The situation where President Trump's trying to start here is, and this goes back to what I said. | ||
| Hamas is a franchise of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| Now, Netanyahu, this crew, had Qatar and the Muslim Brotherhood financing what was going on in Gaza. | ||
| And they had all kind of strategic reasons to want to do it. | ||
| There's a scandal in Israel about people around Netanyahu taking money from Qatar. | ||
| And Qatar spread money everywhere. | ||
| There's an article I'll put up this afternoon. | ||
| They spread money everywhere. | ||
| But they're the financier of the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Even the IDF guy, the IDF, I put it up, I think I put it up, he gave an amazing interview to the Times of Israel over the weekend. | ||
| Excuse me, excuse me, the former head of Mossad, who's not a Netanyahu fan. | ||
| In fact, he says he may run against Netanyahu for the presidency, that Israel needs a new government. | ||
| And he said, hey, the Mossad, we didn't take any money, but there was a lot of money taken. | ||
| This puts a lie to, as we've said on this show from the beginning, it makes no sense what happened on 7 October. | ||
| There has been no inquiry into it. | ||
| The reason is this entire war is to keep Netanyahu in power. | ||
| And what did we tell you? | ||
| When they kept saying, oh, Hamas and Iran's back of everything, back in Hamas, they're in doing a decapitation strike in Doha against Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| Because guess what? | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood and the Hamas guys, which are one and the same, live in Doha and they're financed at a Qatar, not Tehran. | ||
| Not Tehran. | ||
| And so this morning they had the strike. | ||
| And I will say this again and again and again. | ||
| The threat to Israel and the threat to the Jewish people, the principal existential threat is not in Tehran. | ||
| It is in London, the streets of London, in the power corridors in London, and shortly in New York City. | ||
| Right now it's on the streets with the Working Families Party, in the DSA, and Ma'am Dani. | ||
| Because guess where his mother, and we have no idea where all this money comes from. | ||
| A guy named Sam Antor has some great charts, but the money comes from Qatar. | ||
| His mother is financed. | ||
| You know, they're fat cats. | ||
| He's no kids from the streets. | ||
| They're financed by, wait for it. | ||
| Oh, Qatar. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Let me see. | ||
| I think I see some pattern recognition here. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's right. | ||
| The Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| I don't know why they were in Gaza all those years. | ||
| You make a pact, you make a Faustian pact with the devil. | ||
| The devil is going to come back and, you know, read Faust. | ||
| He's come back. | ||
| He's going to get his souls. | ||
| He's going to get his pound of flesh. | ||
| Always and everywhere. | ||
| You're in bed with the devil. | ||
| The devil's going to get it. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the war room. | ||
| Just a moment. | ||
| What they wanted. | ||
| So, in this courtroom, we don't really care your race, color, creed, national origins, religious belief, or your political beliefs, but we do care about the law and that we believe that it should be applied to protect every individual equally. | ||
| And I believe that they were executing their constitutional right to seek redress, and that's based on the statements of all of the people's witnesses. | ||
| And so, for those reasons, these faces will not be bound over to the circuit court. | ||
| Each case will be dismissed. | ||
| Holy mackerel, praise God. | ||
| In Michigan, I think I'm understanding this correctly. | ||
| The false electors case dropped, and those people just incredible. | ||
| Those people out. | ||
| Christina Bob's going to be here in the next hour. | ||
| We're going to talk about all this. | ||
| I think I got that right because Michigan was doing, we were monitoring this. | ||
| Can we tee that up and play it again? | ||
| I'm going to play that again. | ||
| That is a long time coming. | ||
| These folks in Arizona and Michigan and in Georgia are heroes. | ||
| They are leaders in the, they are leaders, patriotic leaders in the populist nationalist MAGA movement and true heroes and did this with no whining. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play it again. | ||
| The courts weren't giving them what they wanted. | ||
| So, in this courtroom, we don't really care your race, color, creed, national origins, religious belief, or your political beliefs, but we do care about the law and that we believe that it should be applied to protect every individual equally. | ||
| And I believe that they were executing their constitutional right to seek redress, and that's based on the statements of all of the people's witnesses. | ||
| And so, for those reasons, these faces will not be bound over to the circuit court, and each case will be dismissed. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| In Michigan, incredible. | ||
| Alex deGrasse, what a joyous day. | ||
| I want to get you on here and thank you for being the tip of the tip of the spear. | ||
| You alerted us, I think it was in late 2021, about 22, about what was going to happen and how important the redistricting were then. | ||
| And the great fight we had in 22 essentially gave us the control of the House. | ||
| Let's be blunt, those seats, we won them all, right? | ||
| I think that's the, I think it's, I think it's the delta in the house now because of major demographic shifts, not just in the country, which the 2020 census didn't pick up because it was gun-decked. | ||
| It was all done inappropriately, Wilbur Ross over Commerce, as Stephen Mill and I warned you, plus it counted illegal aliens, demographic shifts in the country. | ||
| And in addition, demographic shifts and population shifts inside the states require us to do it. | ||
| Absent that, it's kind of get on with it. | ||
| And you alerted us early on of what was there and what was on the table. | ||
| And quite frankly, the war imposse has driven this and fought like hell in Texas. | ||
| And people taking bows like Abbott and Patrick, it's a joke. | ||
| And the Speaker of the House and people in the President Trump's political operation tell him that the Speaker of the House of Texas has been for this are giving him bad information. | ||
| These people fought it. | ||
| So where do we stand right now? | ||
| Because they're in meltdown. | ||
| Maybe we can pull that and play it. | ||
| They're in meltdown. | ||
| You know, Mark Elias and MSNBC, they're now in meltdown over Missouri, Indiana, all of it. | ||
| So where do we deGrasse? | ||
| You're the architect here. | ||
| Where do we actually stand in this? | ||
| Because folks, I'm telling you, and I got Mark Mitchell coming on with some polling, the intensity on their side, right? | ||
| Because you saw how this thing started, authoritarian takeover, the consolidation phase. | ||
| These people are all fascist, and they're jacking their folks up. | ||
| They don't really have a counter program. | ||
| It's just orange man bad, you know, orange man dictator, hate Trump, which is a motivator for those folks. | ||
| DeGrasse, where do we stand in the project to make sure that we sort this thing out and we get appropriate representation inside the states, sir? | ||
| So I think two things, Steve. | ||
| I think one really important fact for the posse out there on the front lines is, you know, certainly the Commerce Department's and the census' own audit admits that the 2020 census heavily favored blue states just based off their own very faulty numbers. | ||
| So even at the baseline of counting illegal immigrants and, you know, doing all this insane stuff that they should have stopped, obviously, it still is heavily favored. | ||
| So we have great reason, hopefully, to follow through on what President Trump had declared. | ||
| And we were obviously very excited about that, is the prospect of a new census that would discount illegal immigrants and then obviously correctly count since we have a reason to do it because 2020 was obviously disastrous. | ||
| And so if you were to do that, obviously. | ||
| So that's one piece. | ||
| Remember, we had the three kind of converging vectors, obviously Supreme Court rulings, which will take some time and will play into effect as a second order degree into the next election cycle, most likely. | ||
| Fine, we're going to pocket that. | ||
| The second one being obviously the census, which we're waiting on, which would be huge. | ||
| And every day that goes by makes it a little bit challenging to kind of factor in, obviously, on this cycle. | ||
| Most likely not the case. | ||
| And so, and then you've got the first vector, which we've been talking about and the posse has been leading on and you discuss, which is obviously the redistricting right now, right? | ||
| Answering the Democrats gerrymandering, which is what this is all about, obviously. | ||
| You've got the states we mentioned, and we're making progress, Steve, but frankly, it's not enough. | ||
| And we have to move harder, faster. | ||
| More maximalists, obviously, you look at Missouri's moving, picking up one would have been nice to pick up two. | ||
| Just little things like that. | ||
| And they're ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Slow down, slow down, because I want to make sure everybody, this is all maximalists. | ||
| So right now, Texas is five, right? | ||
| Are you, because you know this better than anybody, are you, do you agree with us, the war room, that we think there's another couple of three minimum and you actually could get to another five and just in Texas? | ||
| And I'm not saying they're going to do it and Abbott doesn't want to do it. | ||
| They think they put it to bed. | ||
| But do you believe right now in Texas, there may be a couple of three sitting on the table that we can pick up? | ||
| No doubt about that, Steve. | ||
| And I think that's really important for people to understand. | ||
| And I've been telling our friends in California, the current Texas map, which Democrats are obviously falsely decreeing as gerrymandered, is less gerrymandered than the current California map that's about to be further gerrymandered when you look at the vote percentage and then seats, right? | ||
| So statewide vote percentage and then how many seats they hold. | ||
| So that's really important. | ||
| Again, the current California map, which is about to be blown to hell if we can't stop this ballot referendum, is actually less gerrymandered than the current Texas, sorry, more gerrymandered than the current Texas map. | ||
| So, of course, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| But hang on. | ||
| I want to go through. | ||
| I'll make sure people take your number two parents all. | ||
| California has the largest congressional delegation at 52 seats. | ||
| Right now, it's 43 Democrats and nine Republicans. | ||
| Am I correct in that simple math, sir? | ||
| And the vote percentage in California for Republicans is around 38, 40%. | ||
| What's the percentage of 40%? | ||
| 40%. | ||
| 40%. | ||
| They are going to a map, folks, because this is how they play. | ||
| They play Smashmouth. | ||
| And I admire the fact that they play Smashmouth. | ||
| And they don't care. | ||
| Newsome will look at right now. | ||
| These guys look at you right now. | ||
| I ain't lied to you. | ||
| They're going to a map that's 48 seats and four for Republicans in a state that's the fifth or sixth biggest economy in the world, that has 40% of the vote are Republican votes. | ||
| You're going to have a congressional delegation as 48 Democrats to four Republicans. | ||
| Is that correct, sir? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| That's why, obviously, that is sort of a pretty key battleground for us. | ||
| And I don't think that's a lost cause. | ||
| I think it's going to be actually a very tight race. | ||
| I think a lot of people are looking at this. | ||
| And I think it really would actually kill Newsome's presidential campaign there. | ||
| So as we like to say, you better kill him in the cradle. | ||
| Of course, politically speaking, that's sort of an important term for operatives that you want to kind of end something. | ||
| You have the opportunity to maybe end it right there, right? | ||
| And spend what we can on the front end and not deal with this. | ||
| If we end that, by the way, we're going to develop this topic because the big issue is going to be President Trump's involvement, right? | ||
| Because it's tons of MAGA out in California. | ||
| There's more MAGA in California, I think, than any other state in the Union, right? | ||
| It's just that they're overwhelmed. | ||
| Millions of Democrats. | ||
| Millions, millions. | ||
| Hardcore Californians, we love you. | ||
| I was out there for 20 years plus. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So Texas is five now, maybe another three. | ||
| We're hurtling towards California having five. | ||
| We're not going to assume they pick it up, but that's going to be on the debit side, potential debit side. | ||
| Where else? | ||
| Florida is five, and what is the process for Florida? | ||
| When is DeSantis and the team? | ||
| We've kind of seen a rough cut of the map. | ||
| When do they actually get rolling on executing on this? | ||
| Because we got to do it because you got primaries next year. | ||
| You got to get these districts sorted so people know who in the hell is running and where they're running. | ||
| So where are we going to move? | ||
| I'm hoping that they move. | ||
| I don't have an update on that one. | ||
| It's on my list to kind of hammer through. | ||
| And I think, and you're exactly right, Steve. | ||
| You know, sort of the clock is ticking here. | ||
| We see obviously the progress in Missouri. | ||
| They've already voted, at least in the lower level. | ||
| Hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| When Alexa Grass says, we're hoping they move, I thought we had moved this beyond hope to actually intent. | ||
| And it's just logistics. | ||
| Are you saying there may be, because remember, folks, let's go back in time until Alex deGrasse got involved and the Warren Posse got involved in Florida. | ||
| Tallahassee made the deals. | ||
| Here's the reason. | ||
| And these state capitals, yeah, they're concerned about Congress and the balance of power. | ||
| They got it, but they're more important. | ||
| They're more about cutting their own deals in the states. | ||
| And what had happened in Tallahassee before you got involved, right? | ||
| We had a map that basically didn't even start to get redistricting right. | ||
| Why all the Republicans with the Democrats had cut deals in Tallahassee that were right for them as far as state reps and what they're doing. | ||
| But it was when we got involved and exposed it that things started to change. | ||
| Is this the current situation we have that the Tallahassee, because Tallanasty is one of the most corrupt state capitals in our beloved republic, right? | ||
| Because those brothers roll hard down there, right? | ||
| And they don't like people sticking their nose in their business. | ||
| So what do you mean, hopefully, Alex deGrasse? | ||
| Well, I'm just not going to give anyone credit until we start seeing official progress through the legislative chambers. | ||
| I mean, I am hopeful. | ||
| I know that people are talking about it. | ||
| I know the governor has said it, but people say all types of things, Steve. | ||
| I mean, MAGA's been burned. | ||
| That list is long, of course. | ||
| And so, again, hopeful. | ||
| I mean, it sounds like they're moving, but nothing has happened officially that I'm aware of. | ||
| And so I just don't want to say false information, obviously, on the show and get people voting. | ||
| I think we have to get on. | ||
| That's where I'm putting that on the list right now as an item. | ||
| Now, Missouri, the great state with two great senators, I'm telling you, pure MAGA. | ||
| They are still leaving a district, I believe, in St. Louis unreconstructed, unredistricted. | ||
| So Missouri will actually have one right now. | ||
| They will have one Democratic seat. | ||
| Yeah, so they have two currently and the map that's progressed through, I think, either the state house, the state senate, I forget which one had just voted yesterday, and they'll pick up one seat there and the current push. | ||
| Certainly, based off maps I've seen, you could have done too. | ||
| But so that's kind of what you're talking about, where I think there's stuff on the table, of course. | ||
| And you take a step back, you look at, you know, obviously Massachusetts, you look at Connecticut, where they don't leave anything on the table, Steve. | ||
| We don't have a single Republican. | ||
| All of New England, you're a young lad from New England. | ||
| New England, which is what, six states? | ||
| Six states, 25, it's 25 to nothing, isn't it? | ||
| It's 20. | ||
| All of New England aggregated is about 40% votes, 40% Republican, roughly, Alex? | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| 25 delegates, 25 congressmen, not one Republican, correct? | ||
| In the entire New England, correct? | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| They don't leave anything in the, they don't leave. | ||
| That is in your face. | ||
| That is, how illegal is that? | ||
| You have 40% of people in broader New England vote Republican, no seats. | ||
| Alex DeGrass is going to stick with us. | ||
| It's Maximalist Tuesday in the war room. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | ||
| I want to get ready and play the... | ||
| So we're really excited about Friday and Saturday up in the greater New York area. | ||
| By the way, you've got some experience there, DeGrasse, don't you? | ||
| This place is like the MAGA Thunderdome, correct? | ||
| This is like MAGA Central up in Long Island. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| I've traveled the country, Steve. | ||
| I've been to probably 35 states in a political capacity campaigning and whether it be on the trail supporting President Trump or in the House majority. | ||
| The America First Warehouse is the real deal. | ||
| I mean, this stuff is the most hardcore of the hardcores. | ||
| And I'm pumped that you're going to be able to go there. | ||
| I've spent some time there with Elise. | ||
| These guys are, these guys take everything that we talk about to the true maximalist. | ||
| I mean, they've got a pack that they had set up, you know, to support local candidates. | ||
| They're chipping in small dollars, coordinating their resources. | ||
| They've done the precinct strategy. | ||
| They've been out there hammering on the doors. | ||
| They've been out there supporting local candidates, focusing, obviously, on the House majority, supporting maybe people that they aren't super excited at face value, but they know that the majority on the line and they're out there hammering, putting the good of everything ahead. | ||
| And these guys, they do the parades. | ||
| You've seen the Trump parades. | ||
| I mean, Steve, you're telling you right now, you're going to have hundreds of people outside in the parking lot. | ||
| You're going to have hundreds of people inside. | ||
| My family's out there food shopping in Connecticut, hour, 45 minutes away. | ||
| You've got minivans. | ||
| You've got these huge Trump things. | ||
| They're handing out flyers that you're coming to town. | ||
| That's how I knew you were going to even talk to you last night. | ||
| This thing is going to be massive. | ||
| If you're in Long Island or if you're in downstate New York, get out there. | ||
| People are excited. | ||
| Hopefully Rudy's there. | ||
| People have mentioned that. | ||
| I'm not sure if he is or isn't, but I know he is. | ||
| Given his injury from the accident, but we're working to get Rudy and a couple other surprise guests there to make it. | ||
| We're so excited. | ||
| It's Friday and Saturday, and tickets are flying off. | ||
| I mean, Friday's almost sold out. | ||
| Saturday's getting close. | ||
| We want to make sure we got room for everybody. | ||
| So go check it out today. | ||
| We'll play a thing. | ||
| But this is why we're so excited to kick off. | ||
| Really, we're going to start taking the show on the road more to kick this off that I've always been told that this is like the railhead of the. | ||
| And what I love about it, you're inside the wire, right? | ||
| Because New York State, New York's, and President Trump can, he keeps saying, hey, I can win New York City. | ||
| I can win New York State. | ||
| He is so maniacally focused on that. | ||
| And at the time, you have Mamdoni. | ||
| And this is what I keep saying. | ||
| The existential threat to Israel ain't out of Tehran. | ||
| The existential threat to Israel is going to come in November. | ||
| I mean, DeGrasse, with Stefanik, you know New York politics, New York City politics. | ||
| This kid, I'm telling you, once they take power, they're not going to turn it back over. | ||
| These are hardcore radicals. | ||
| This is the Red-Green Alliance. | ||
| It's neo-Marxism and jihadism. | ||
| He's the Sadiq Khan of, he's a happier, clappier Sadiq Khan, deGrasse. | ||
| And you've seen what's happened to London. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I mean, it's, I mean, this guy, you know, he's sort of a, I mean, that's exactly right, Steve. | ||
| You look at the parents, you look at the funding. | ||
| You spoke about it earlier, you know, money coming in from all types of very concerted. | ||
| You see people who, I think the New York Post did kind of a deep dive on his like inner circle. | ||
| I mean, it's hardcore Marxist, 30-year-old, 25-year-old kids that have no idea what they're doing, tied in with Muslim Brotherhood, this, that, this communist green energy thing. | ||
| I mean, this stuff is bizarre, obviously. | ||
| But the reality is that they're gaining strength. | ||
| They're registering voters. | ||
| They're trying to co-opt our message on affordability on everything else, right? | ||
| He's trying to pivot. | ||
| I see a New York Times article out that, you know, many of the financial elites are bending the knee. | ||
| And that's the problem, Steve. | ||
| I mean, these people, these elites, these sort of business titans, I mean, time and time again, instead of sort of standing up and fighting and supporting, you know, maybe the longer-term play with MAGA, is that they're bending the knee and trying to play ball. | ||
| Of course, they feel like they need to. | ||
| And that's what makes things really hard for us, obviously. | ||
| So he's trying to rebrand. | ||
| Oh, I'm not going to defend the police. | ||
| Oh, this, that. | ||
| But the reality is this stuff is really radical and dangerous. | ||
| And you look at the DSA sort of platform where he comes from. | ||
| I mean, this stuff is the hardcore of the hardcore. | ||
| It's even much further than even his own positions. | ||
| And he's refusing to denounce them. | ||
| I mean, he just said he wants to get rid of the gang database for the NYPD. | ||
| I mean, this stuff is like they're on a mission to dismantle the American values and civil society that we hold dear, much as like what's happened in obviously Europe. | ||
| So I agree with what you've been saying on the show. | ||
| 10 years that we go down that route in New York, that's a lost cause. | ||
| That's why the American First Warehouse is huge, Steve. | ||
| I mean, I was over there in 2021, some of the dark days, right? | ||
| When the list of folks that were in the trenches was really like the posse and then a few others, right? | ||
| And it was tough years, obviously. | ||
| And they had the Trump 2024 flag like January 7th, 2021. | ||
| It was, they're so hardcore. | ||
| But that's the key out there. | ||
| No, that's right. | ||
| And what's amazing is just like California, millions in MAGA are in New York. | ||
| And I think people are concerned. | ||
| And I think, you know, it's going to be a cluster, but we'll have to rebuild and really kind of rethink how we do things to fight back. | ||
| Because I think the current model is not necessarily working with this guy out there with his, you know, and look, and China is behind him too. | ||
| And we're talking about the Green Alliance and Red, I mean, specifically the CCC. | ||
| The neo-Marxist communist with the radical jihad. | ||
| It's the pact they make all over the world. | ||
| They've made it in Europe. | ||
| 100% the CCP is involved in the Muslim Brotherhood. | ||
| He's got money. | ||
| I told the big, so they called a bunch of big donors, called me up after, because I had predicted, hey, this guy's going to win the primary, right? | ||
| And I talked to a bunch of them beforehand. | ||
| They said, no, no, no, no, you really don't know New York City. | ||
| Cuomo's got all the money. | ||
| He's got the New York Times endorsement. | ||
| You know, they're living in. | ||
| I said, Cuomo's like the character in the John Ford movie, Spencer Tracy played a guy, Frank Skeffington, who was really, I think, James Michael was Curley, the mayor of Boston. | ||
| They got defeated in the last hurrah. | ||
| He hadn't realized politics had passed him by when he ran against. | ||
| That's Cuomo. | ||
| Cuomo's running a punch by the numbers campaign. | ||
| And I told these guys when I'm up there, I said, you cannot beat this kid conventionally. | ||
| You're all talking about getting a couple of guys to the races, which is not going to happen. | ||
| Sleeva's got nothing else to do. | ||
| He's sticking. | ||
| Mayor Adams, you know, the only black mayor in history has in New York City history, lost his second term. | ||
| Adams is in, right? | ||
| As he said the other day. | ||
| And Cuomo is just sucking up the money, but phoning in. | ||
| And I told him to their face, all of you, you're not prepared to fight unconventionally because you don't have the balls to want to win. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Each one of you is going to bend the knee to this guy. | ||
| And you're going to bend the knee just like the aristocracy, some of the aristocracy in France bent the knee to the revolution. | ||
| It don't matter. | ||
| They still are going to pull the guillotine out. | ||
| This is what's happening in New York City with the elites. | ||
| You see how gutless, not just gutless, but how feckless, hapless they are, and how they're so easily terrified. | ||
| It's a great lesson, folks. | ||
| A great lesson. | ||
| You're either in the warrior class or you're a wimp. | ||
| And what you're seeing in New York City, I don't care how much money you got. | ||
| You're just wimps. | ||
| You're going to pay the price. | ||
| Stick around, Alice DeGrasse. | ||
| Mark Mitchell's got some polling going to shock you. | ||
| Christina Bob on a victory in Michigan. | ||
| Christina Bob is in the war room. |
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