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Sept. 8, 2025 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 4763: Murder In Charlotte; Victories For Trump In LA
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benny johnson
15:28
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julie kelly
07:21
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steve bannon
12:00
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ben bergquam
02:21
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gary grumbach
01:12
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harmeet dhillon
01:45
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joe meacham
01:24
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lisa rubin
01:41
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mike lindell
03:04
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jake tapper
00:10
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benny johnson
But I think everybody sees what the real problem is here, which is that repeat violent criminal offenders that scream at judges that I don't belong in civilized society.
I will murder and kill and maim and harm and offend again, continue to be put on the street.
The floor is yours.
harmeet dhillon
Well, look, it's very tragic what happened in this uh jurisdiction.
It's the kind of thing that you're seeing happening all over the United States.
And from the federal civil rights perspective, my angle is whether there is discrimination occurring by local law enforcement in how they treat offenders.
And so, for example, in in Hennepin County, Minnesota, we're investigating their blatant policy, which says that they will give preferential plea agreements to uh people of color.
Now, that's illegal under the law.
I don't know whether Charlotte has a similar problem.
There, it may be the case, and you know, we'd love for people with evidence to come forward, whistleblowers to come forward.
If they are treating offenders of a particular race more leniently than, say, white offenders.
That would be a federal civil rights violation, but we need that evidence before we can take action at the DOJ.
Um, you know, to the broader point of whether the federal government can impose sort of sentencing strictures on state court judges, you know, typically speaking, in our uh federalism and 10th Amendment analysis uh division of power, most of the police power in the United States, and that means all the government power really lies with the states and with localities.
What the federal government can do, however, is tie federal grants and federal law enforcement support, which is significant to basic minimum standards of performance.
And so I think that's something that certainly could be looked at by policymakers.
Um, and so you know, you do have to you do have to look from a federalism perspective as to whether a federal law governing criminal conduct is consistent with those 10th Amendment concerns.
steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
Because we're going medieval on these people.
Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media.
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
steve bannon
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
Warum use your host, Stephen K. Monday, 8th September, year of our Lord 2025, a lot to go through Supreme Court, two big rulings uh in favor of the Trump administration.
Julie Kelly's gonna be on here.
Uh they're getting ready to um go into Chicago.
Ben Burkwam has been spending months out there.
Ben will join us also uh a lot on big tech, artificial intelligence, and the tech broligarchs.
We got Joe Allen, also the Chinese Communist Party.
I've got folks in the new federal state of China to talk about what's going on.
Economist has a lead story about um uh the, as I told you, the fifth column that's in Taiwan, maybe sapping the spirit of the Taiwanese to defend themselves, going to get to all that and much, much more of a guy start with the Benny Johnson.
Benny, I wanted you on here from the other day, and you're spirited, and I think most spirited defense we had of Bobby Kennedy came from you.
But then the story that is uh that you have been following for a while, but just is now giving you the attention of mainstream media since it's been forced.
You had Harmeet Dylan on today.
Can you just let's just do a reset?
What did we talk about?
What happened, where did it happen, how did it happen, and why is the mainstream media not mention one word of this, sir?
Hmm.
benny johnson
Well, yes, a lot to unpack, Steve, always an honor to be on.
So a young woman who fled war-torn Ukraine, that is an active war zone with a lot of bad things happening and a lot of people dying, a lot of terrible stuff happening in Ukraine.
We can all agree, decided to seek refuge in the greatest country on earth, here, America.
And she decided to locate to A municipality, Charlotte, North Carolina, and ride a bus home after her hourly job at a pizza place.
But little did she realize that in this country there is something arguably as or more deadly than the war zone that she fled, Steve, which is restorative justice and woke judicial policies, which allows for monsters and animals to roam among us, approximately 1% of the population, to terrorize 99% of the population, and she was stabbed through her throat.
We don't get any type of bumper stickers for her.
She couldn't say I can't breathe because she had a knife in her throat.
And now we've just learned that DeMarcus Brown Jr., the murderer had 14 prior arrests and was mumbling to him to himself on that bus, I got the white girl, confirming that this was in fact a racial hate crime.
And so you need to step back and ask the question: how does this happen?
How do you get out of jail 14 different times?
Now we've named and shamed some of the judges that have allowed for this to happen, and obviously the policies that look at the criminal as the victim.
And that's of course a absolute evil.
But I want to go a level further here, Steve, if you'll just allow me, if I can just have a minute.
So I want to talk about something that we've looked through, some data that we've looked through on my show, that I think is really alarming and should shock the soul and the consciences of Americans.
One in every 22 black men will commit murder in their lifetime here in America.
Black men are nine times more likely to commit violent crime.
They make up six percent of the population, but 52% of the murders are committed by black men.
So what the hell is going on there?
What what is happening here in our nation?
There has to be some type of correlation or causality, Steve.
We we have to figure this thing out.
What is it?
And we've looked and we think we found something.
70% of all black children are born into fatherless homes.
There are six, there are six million black children living today in America without fathers.
Now we know that fatherlessness leads to twice the probability that that child is raised in poverty, half the chances of that child graduating college, and three times more likely for that child to become a criminal and incarcerated.
70% of juvenile delinquents that are in state facilities are from fatherless homes.
Of course, fatherlessness in the black community, especially skyrocketed after the Great Society programs of the 1960s and 70s that incentivized fatherlessness in communities, especially of color.
And so here is the question that lies before America.
Are we going to continue to incentivize the murder, the terrorism of our own people?
Or are we going to stop these insane policies?
Fatherlessness is killing literally and figuratively America, Steve.
steve bannon
Benny, isn't also when he said 70% of the murders, if you look at uh the violent crimes, um it's all perpetrated basically perpetrated against the African American and some of the Hispanic community, right?
I mean, there is some black and white on crime, black on white crime, but principally you've got these cities, and I think this is what President Trump is saying, and why Chicago's next, and Ben Burkwome's going to join us, of course.
The Supreme Court had a great ruling of the day on ice about roving around.
Uh, these policies have uh have really been used to terrorize the minority community, have they not?
unidentified
Yeah.
benny johnson
Oh, if you say black lives matter, if you have that bumper sticker or if you have that flag and that slogan, by the way, all of the data that I just gave you is directly from the FBI.
All of the data is directly from accredited studies and from our own federal crime and law enforcement data.
It is been backed and it is there in black and white.
And to your point about black and white, the vast majority of these crimes are committed against black populations or populations of color.
That's what the statistics bear out.
So if you believe that black lives matter, the number one thing that you would be banging your fist on the table for and yelling about in the streets through your megaphone till your voice cracked would be to lock up and incarcerate the one percent of our population, diminishingly small numbers of the population that commit 90% of the crimes.
That's how you solve crime.
You can get to the spiritual realm and also talk about fatherlessness and uh clearly some very bad socio and economic conditions that cause this, much of it precipitated by our federal government.
But Steve, it's not like all uh uh darkness.
There are examples of this.
Washington, D.C., where you're broadcasting right now, locked up 1700 people and saw a 94% reduction in crime.
Exactly what I'm talking about here.
There's 600,000 people live in Washington, D.C., you're one of them.
You the war room broadcast from there regularly.
And have you seen it safer in Washington since the National Guard moved in?
steve bannon
Oh, yeah, not only safer.
I was telling people I went to this thing on at in Georgetown on Friday night of with anti-Trump people, and to a person, they said the city's safer, Georgetown's safer, you can get out and walk around at night.
I mean, it's shocking, and these are all, you know, never Trumpers that uh would would never publicly give the president a hat tip.
But they all admit the city is demonstrably safer, sir.
benny johnson
El Salvador is a wonderful example of this.
El Salvador was a single most dangerous country in the Western hemisphere.
Now it is the safest country because they simply locked up their career criminals.
Approximately one percent of their population.
Call it whatever you want.
Demonic possession, uh, the uh gang pipeline that encourages this.
But when you get rid of the contagion vector of career criminals, they don't spawn more career criminals.
Now, El Salvador saw solved this, and at light neck snapping speed, now it has become one of the single safest countries on earth.
And there is a roadmap here.
President Trump followed it in our nation's capital, and I hope that it happens throughout America's cities, but you've got to be able to look the problem dead in the face.
Uh, you have to be meaner than evil in order to take on something like this.
And President Trump says that these horrible acts uh need to be met with horrible justice.
Uh, and so I really do indeed hope that there are some major um prohibitions and some major penalties that are doled out uh to these killers and murderers.
And again, as you stated, the single best thing you could want for the black community in this country is for these murderers to be locked up for good.
steve bannon
Benny, uh, it was because of your coverage and a couple of others, but only a couple that really drove this.
The footage is so brutal from the bus camera.
Why did the mainstream media not touch this?
I mean, didn't go through this this happened back in August, I think 22nd.
This is the story is essentially two, three weeks old, sir.
benny johnson
Uh, sir, um, Mr. Bannon, uh, this is kryptonite for the left.
You can't touch this.
I mean, if if you touch this, and if you're a leftist and you touch this, you're retarded because there is no way out here.
He didn't use a gun, so you can't claim that this is some type of second amendment thing.
And this is a somebody who there's a monster, an animal who's walking the streets because of your restorative justice policies.
Somebody who, at the very least, was honest about his nature.
Let's take a step back here.
Uh, the the murderer here has been locked up 14 times.
He told the judges by his actions what he was capable of and what he was going to do.
He screamed to be incarcerated, to be put in a labor camp for the rest of his life.
But the judges refused to do it.
These are Democrat policies through and through.
It's a Democrat municipality.
Of course, this is a Ukrainian refugee.
So you can't win there.
You can't say she had it coming, or she says she's some type of blood, there's some type of blood libel against her.
There's there's a no-win situation here for the left to cover this subject.
So that's why they're going silent on it.
The mayor thanked their media partners, Steve, for not talking about the story.
Uh, it's an absolute collusion.
But more importantly, and I have this question, and I really want to bring this to the forefront.
Why can't we see the murder, the actual moment where he murders this girl?
We were able to see this with George Floyd because it served a cultural purpose to unmoor our country.
We could we need to see the full and unedited tape.
People need to see this brutality, stare evil in the face, and that, and only then do you get the motivation to truly fight evil?
The resolve.
steve bannon
Benny, I wanna if I can hold you through the break, I know you gotta get back to the family, but uh, because I gotta talk to you about Bobby Kennedy quickly.
It one of the other disturbing things about the footage, and we got about a minute, um, is uh nobody like jumped up and got in the middle of this.
I mean, there were other passengers on the bus.
It seemed to me they just kind of sat there.
benny johnson
Yeah, I mean, it's what you see inside of a sunken society.
Where are the men?
What has happened to the men?
I constantly am preaching to the audience that this is what God called you for.
Your your ancestors cry from the grave.
All of us, especially if we're living in this land, uh, come from noble and brave men who risked everything.
Uh, and you have to ask yourself the question when you see a guy walking around with his fist filled and dripping with blood, saying, I killed the white girl, I killed the white girl.
At some point, you know, evil's real, demons are real.
You better put on the full armor and be willing to fight.
steve bannon
Benny Johnson is our guest.
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joe meacham
Vaccines are like uh and don't hold me exactly this analogy.
It's a little bit like traffic rules, right?
Uh, you kind of don't have an option of, well, I'm gonna stop or not stop at that light.
Because not because it's your, you know, it's it's part of the social contract that you give up a little bit of your uh liberty in order to protect the safety of the many.
And I think in a huge way, what we're dealing with in the country, broadly put, is a breakdown of lowercase the democratic covenant.
And this is the most vivid example of that.
People like me, and you know, you and I talk about this a lot, talk about you know, the constitutional order and the declaration of independence and uh responsible citizenship.
And I love talking about that almost as much as I love the the drop shot, but this is one where an actual uh intersection with daily reality.
And I was gonna ask you what's going on in Florida, uh, which I was just uh I don't want to say puzzled by, but it did seem a little bit out of the blue just to say, hey, we're gonna uh pull out uh Benny Johnson joined what is decade upon decade upon decade during the public health.
steve bannon
During the um during the um Inquisition last week, the Star Chamber, you were all over social media on your very powerful Twitter feed and your show defending Bobby Kennedy, talk about Maha.
Um what was that about I noted one thing that concerned me?
I didn't see an organized effort of surrogates out there, and even in the administration to have Bobby Kennedy's back, particularly.
I thought he took it to him that day.
Your your your thoughts.
benny johnson
Yeah, he was Van Helsing to the vampire, Steve.
He was the sunlight and the silver bullet to the werewolf.
Bobby Kennedy is somebody who, in his confirmation hearings, had the single most viral clip that I've seen on the internet for any confirmation hearing ever.
And there were a lot of bangers from everyone from Tulsi to Cash, Patel De P Heg Seth, but Bobby Kennedy looking straight dead in the eye, Bernie Sanders and saying, Oh, you're gonna um you're gonna accuse me of going after Big Pharma.
Well, you have a giant big pharma receipt stamped right on your ass that says that they've given you multiple millions of dollars.
You are the big pharma shill.
And he not only did that, he also scalped with a tomahawk, Elizabeth Warren, for saying the exact same thing.
She also is a massive big money, big pharma shill.
And Bobby Kennedy's capacity to go into that den of vampires like sunlight and expose how corrupt Washington, DC works, and how these companies want to make you sicker, not better.
They profit off our misery.
They are not incentivized at all to make you healthy.
They are incentivized to make you sicker, and they often do so at force of a gun from the federal government, which is what they're asking for here.
What they really want is force to force you to use a vaccine, otherwise they will steal your job from you.
They will take your livelihood and they will put you in the and your children in the breadlines.
That is ultimately what they want.
Medical tyranny.
Bobby Kennedy in the Maha movement, arguably the most powerful and important movement in the country.
And I only say that, Steve, I know I'm at the beating heart of the MAGA movement here on War Room.
I only say that because you can't have an America first if America is sick and dead.
Fat sick and dead.
And so you need the Maha movement in order for the MAGA movement to even work.
And what President Trump did in fusing with the two greatest living political dynasties, the Kennedys and the Trumps, together, is create a powerful force that can take down uh the darkness that is wrought in our government.
Um, and that's why they hate them so much, Steve.
steve bannon
What would you recommend to HHS and to the administration uh if we are to perfect this and do a better job?
Because the all the look, the mainstream media is on the on the uh payroll of uh Pfizer and Big Pharma.
If like I said, if you cut out which we're trying to do, work of those folks trying to cut out advertising from big pharma, MSNBC would be a test pattern.
What would be your recommendation, since you know social media and information warfare so well, about getting out more of the actual data studies, uh, reports, because the data and the science here are on our side overwhelmingly, and that seems to be the hang up right now.
They're beating us back on it.
What what would be your recommendation to Secretary Kennedy and the folks over at HHS?
benny johnson
Oh, it's very simple.
You just simply need to prove, and COVID, of course, the COVID vaccine is the best test case for this.
You simply need to prove that harm was done.
Now, this has been proven in study after study after study, many of them out of Europe from the COVID vaccine, but some of them are taking place here in this country.
You need to prove harm.
Then you need to look at those who overlooked that harm and mandated and pushed the vaccine.
Remember, it was a mandate.
It was a mandate to work and fly and live.
In many places and municipalities, it was mandated that you take this.
Well, that proof of harm can take down the entire system.
The entire regime is built with the enormous shield of vaccine immunity and protection against vaccine manufacturers.
This was something that was signed in the late 80s by Ronald Reagan, that protection for vaccine manufacturers is the holy grail in this industry.
And I believe personally that that is what they are going after.
I think that that's what they're ultimately going for.
Listen, I, you know, talk to anybody, including myself.
And you can see any parent, and you can see the horrible effects that vaccines can have on children.
There are so many vaccine-injured children out there, and every parent knows it.
I mean, they really do.
It's it's gut wrenching, but there is a pressure operation that happens the second the baby is born, uh, and they take advantage of new mothers and they take advantage of new parents, and these parents don't have the facts and don't have the information, and it's wrong, Steve.
It just is flatly immoral.
And then when something horrible happens to the child, that's happened in my family, there's no recourse for the parent.
And so that's a this is a this isn't a free country.
If that's the case, I mean, you can't do you you can't that can't be the way that the system works, where you have no liability ever for anything that happens.
This is a horrible perverse incentive.
And so if I were to give them one piece of advice, it'd be that go after the immunity for vaccine manufacturers.
Uh, that is the heart of darkness, that's the holy grail for these people.
Um, and it's time for them to live and play by everyone else's rules.
steve bannon
Benny, can can you share that?
Um I don't think a lot of our audience knows that you have personal, you have a personal um uh example from your personal life and your children's life of this vaccine harm.
benny johnson
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't want to get too much into it.
Um because do my best to sort of uh take a step back, especially when it comes to my wife who's a nurse and who, in our, you know, in in our experience as parents, um, you know, they really push, they really push these vaccines on you at the at the hospital.
And now we have four children, and those children we will not allow uh any vaccines toward.
But when my wife was still working in health care and with big health care, um, she was susceptible, and she'll tell you this to some of the uh propaganda about vac vaccines.
And without doing without doing enough research, and it does take some research, uh, you can make mistakes and you can uh you can you know you you can say yes to things inside of that sort of pressure uh uh that gets applied to you as a new parent at the hospital.
And so it's just something that you have to be extremely cautious about, but something that more importantly, we need to educate the American public about.
Um, and uh obviously RFK Jr. is doing uh doing excellent at that.
steve bannon
Benny, where can people get the show?
Where can they get you on your your podcast and also your social media, your coordinates, sir?
benny johnson
Yes.
So at Benny Johnson on everything.
And um, well, uh as always, Steve.
It is uh just an honor to be joining you.
Uh and you've just been a legend and an inspiration for for me and for our nascent career and what we're building.
So the war room.
The war room posse is an absolute and total force of nature.
steve bannon
No, you're one of the uh most important voices in our movement.
I'm honored to have you on here.
Thanks for your coming, sir.
benny johnson
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Benny Johnson.
A uh a full-throated defense of Bobby Kennedy last week is very important.
And I keep saying you need and you saw you know, President Trump, because of bad uh information, has uh because I think President Trump today, I'm looking at my producer.
President Trump today did say that the people that were at the Justice Department or those people were not going to get good jobs.
They were not getting good jobs.
I believe he said that.
And Lisa Monaco is the is the um general counsel over at Microsoft, and you had Bill Gates, who I think has done more to help brainwash the American people on vaccines than anybody at that dinner the other night after Bobby Kennedy.
Benny Johnson, uh, when I was watching it during the day, you always were always had social media up to check that Benny was given such a full-throated and brilliant defense and about how important it was uh for Make America Healthy again.
It just had amazing statistics and is really giving a running account that thought was a one-man war room.
And of course, this horrible situation that's uh that's come out about what happened in Charlotte on the bus and the footage.
I agree with Benny, you ought to you ought to be able to see the stabbing, right?
Itself, the actual murder itself, because it's just not seeing that detail, you get a you get a real feel for how bad it was.
But I think that would be very um educational for people.
One of the shocking things and about our culture and society.
No, no, and no one, at least in the footage I saw come to her defense.
A lot of people just sat there and just took it as a normal, another normal day in the bus.
Very, very, very disturbing.
Benny Johnson, all over.
Okay, uh Ben Burquam has been on assignment.
Ben is gonna come and join us.
Julie Kelly is here to tell us about two big wins, and I mean big wins for President Trump at the Supremes today, Supreme Court.
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gary grumbach
So the Supreme Court is reversing an order from that prevented federal law enforcement from conducting stops in seven California counties without reasonable suspicion.
This was one of those emergency docket cases that just came together in the past few weeks, and it was a six-through decision.
But the six conservatives on this court did not provide a full opinion of the case.
It was just Justice Kavanaugh with his thoughts and a concurring opinion on this, saying, in part, of course, reasonable suspicion is important and it's necessary.
But because there's a large population of undocumented immigrants in the Los Angeles area, because they don't speak English, and because perhaps they all gather in the same areas every day looking for that daily work as day laborers, that in itself is enough reasonable suspicion to stop someone here.
So Sonia uh Justice Sonia Sorin Mayor in her descent along with the three other liberal justices said, quote, it was a grave misuse of our emergency docket.
We should not have to live in a country where the government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish, and appears to work a low-wage job rather than stand idly by while our constitutional freedoms are lost.
I dissent.
So, Chris, the Supreme Court today, effectively okaying racial profiling in immigration enforcement.
lisa rubin
Thank you so much for that, Gary Grumbach.
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So let me ask the the basic question for starters.
Does this apply only to those seven California counties?
And is it the final decision on all of this?
lisa rubin
Well, first of all, it's not the final decision, but let me go back to your first question.
Does it apply only to those seven California counties?
The original order issued by a district court in California did apply only to those seven counties and restrict immigration officials' ability to arrest people on reasonable suspicion there.
The Trump administration therefore will feel empowered by today's pause by the Supreme Court.
I say pause because it is not the final ruling.
However, the breakdown of votes here appears to give some signal into how the court will ultimately vote when this comes back to it.
And of course, Justice Kavanaugh saying in his concurring opinion, as Gary just laid out for you, that he doubts that there was any constitutional infirmity with respect to the rounding up of day laborers who don't speak English and who gather in particular places where they are known to look for work.
That to him does constitute reasonable suspicion and therefore would not be unconstitutional.
We can expect this to come back to the court in one way or another, but in the meantime, you can also expect the Trump administration to feel a little bit more free to go on these sort of immigration hunts for undocumented immigrants, not only in Los Angeles, Chris, but in many other areas of the country.
We have seen at least 24 applications so far by the Trump administration itself in the first 32 weeks of his presidency.
And I just want to give our viewers some context for how that compares to prior presidents.
19 applications were made by President Biden's administration in the entire four years that Joe Biden was president.
So, So already in this term of President Trump's presidency.
steve bannon
There were two rulings, one about firing the FTC commissioner, and then this massive one about ICE Julie Kelly, uh, you pick them, ma'am.
Which one do you want to start with?
Both of them are are, I think, very very big and have implications on so many other things.
President Trump winning at the Supreme Court, ma'am.
julie kelly
Correct.
So both of these decisions by the Supreme Court today do have impacts on pending bigger matters uh before the lower court, and we can talk about that, but we might as well start with this emigration decision.
I thought, and I continue to read through it, but the concurrence by Justice Brett Kavanaugh is very strong.
It's very impressive because he is not pulling any punches.
He makes very clear that we have a crisis of illegal immigrants in this country, especially in the Los Angeles area, that that leaves law enforcement and the federal government with few choices but to conduct these sort of raids at locations where illegals are known to hang out.
And so he it was very strong, but I would like to read one passage if I can before you have it, or unless you have a question about how I think Justice Kavanaugh is signaling what the court might do in the Alien Enemies Act litigation that's still ongoing.
steve bannon
Go ahead, ma'am.
julie kelly
So what Kavanaugh writes today, and this is the Alien Enemies Act, this is the proclamation that the president signed in March that ordered the immediate removal of illegal Venezuelans tied to Tren de Aragua, calling it a foreign terrorist organization.
As you and I have talked about, this was the infamous case that went before Judge Jeb Bosburg, where he made that infamous uh uh order, oral order, he said, to turn claims around and return those illegal Venezuelans who had been deported.
We just got a decision in the Fifth Circuit, um, basically upholding the idea, and this was a two-to-one decision.
This was what the Supreme Court sent back to the Fifth Circuit, asking them to review the use of this Alien Enemies Act and all of these temporary restraining orders that have been handed down by other judges halting the deportation of these illegal Venezuelans under the AE Act and the 2-1 decision.
Basically, this court saying the appell court saying there is no predatory incursion, there is no invasion, therefore the president cannot um cannot invoke the Alien Enemies Act.
Well, this will eventually get back to the Supreme Court.
And here's what Justice Kavanaugh said.
The judiciary does not set immigration policy or decide enforcement priorities.
It should come as no surprise that some administrations may be more laisse-a-fair in enforcing immigration law and other administrations more strict.
Article three judges may have their views on which policy approach is better or fairer, but judges are not appointed to make those policy calls.
We merely ensure that the uh executive branch acts within the confines of the Constitution and federal statutes.
So he is, I think, sort of signaling, as the court did before in many judges, something like the Alien Enemies Act and something like this as well, is not up for court review.
But this is strictly under the purview of the executive branch.
So I I pulled that out.
I thought that that was an interesting uh comment by Justice Tavanaugh.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
Uh also the the ruling on the FTC, tell me about that because that's going to play in right to across the board what Trump's doing, but particularly correct me if I'm wrong, the Fed governor and what's happening with the Federal Reserve.
julie kelly
You're exactly right.
So it does appear.
So what they did again today is put on hold the president's firing of um this uh um individual, Rebecca Slaughter, who is sitting on the uh FTC board.
And again, Steve, this is speaking to, and you and I talked about this months ago, that as frustrating as this litigation is for the Trump administration, it is very necessary and certainly very clarified, because we have all of these so-called independent boards and agencies that wield tremendous power that are sort of acting as a fourth branch of government,
certainly nothing articulated in the Constitution, but they are very powerful, make very powerful decisions, and basically have been insulated by a few Supreme Court cases saying that the president who appoints the any president who appoints these people to these agencies like the FTC,
then a new president Can't turn around and remove those other appointees that they are insulated unless the president uh defines or demonstrates some sort of cause for their removal.
Now, the Supreme Court, in many of these instances, you and I have talked about the Office of Special Counsel, Hampton Dellinger, uh, the National Labor Relations Board, uh the Merit System Protection Board, the President removing former Biden appointees from those boards, and the Supreme Court upholding that.
So, this is again what they did in this case with Rebecca Slaughter at the FTC, putting a hold on the Washington DC uh district court and then appellate court that um overturned her firing and ordered FTC to keep this woman on the board, even though she had been fired by the president.
So this is on hold uh as well.
steve bannon
Julie, you've been uh on this from day one.
Uh the Democrats came up when they had no political power, no organizing power, no real art counter argument to the president.
They went to these, they saw in this kind of uh neo-Marxist and progressive um judiciary that they would have a way to slow Trump down to delay us to deny, right?
Burn daylight as much as you get to the midterms and then the the general.
Um, as we said today, President Trump seems to be winning when we get to the Supreme Court.
Where do we stand overall?
Do you think?
Because I just I think the Atlantic had a uh had a piece the other day, and it went through the the one strategy that's working for the Democrats, and it's the legal uh strategy in this radical judiciary.
Where do you think we stand overall right now?
julie kelly
I mean, I do think that's the Supreme Court, even though there have been some frustrating interventions, especially in the Alien Enemies Act uh lawsuits that were brought against the Trump admate administration, but slowly, slowly but surely we are seeing all of these lawsuits unraveling and the decisions by these district court and even appellate court judges who are clearly outside the boundaries of uh of their authority and
the separation of powers infringing on the executive uh authority as we've never seen before.
This is something that Justice Naomi Rao just said uh in her dissent in this Rebecca Slaughter lawsuit, saying this is unprecedented.
We as courts cannot tell the president who he can hire and fire on these boards that require presidential appointment and then Senate approval.
So many justices or many appellate court justice judges and a few Supreme Court justices have noted the unprecedented nature of all of these lawsuits against the president and how these lower courts are acting.
We saw Justice Gorsuch address this last month very strongly because you see these judges defying even the Supreme Court opinions and orders.
So I do think that the president is prevailing.
I think the decisions today by the Supreme Court should send a good signal on the Alien Enemies Act uh litigation and also the case of Lisa Cook, the fired governor of the Federal Reserve Board, who is suing to keep herself in that position.
steve bannon
Julie, you've been all over this.
Where do people go for your podcast?
Uh you've got a substack, uh, you've got social media.
What are all your coordinates so people can get all of Julie Kelly's content, ma'am?
julie kelly
So I'm a declassified with Julie Kelly on Substack, also X, Julie underscore Kelly Q. I have a great podcast up with my friend and your friend Lisa Shells uh with James Fishback, who is a young up-and-comer in the MAGA movement and uh very critical of the Federal Reserve.
He explains both what's happening at the Fed and also the case of Lisa Cook.
steve bannon
Amazing.
Julie Kelly, thank you.
Thank you for changing your schedule around to join us given the breaking news in the Supreme Court.
Julie Julie Kelly.
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unidentified
There's cartel members definitely in the U.S. that are helping individuals out here.
Human smuggling, human trafficking.
You can only smuggle a drug load once, but you can smuggle a human load over and over again.
Another one bites the dust.
ben bergquam
We don't know anything.
Do we like criminals?
If they're criminals, they gotta go.
I guess they want to keep criminals in their neighborhoods.
There's an operation going on, going after criminal illegals, and you have these leftists that show up.
These guys started blocking traffic.
All of these people are out here causing a problem.
Protecting criminals in their community.
unidentified
These are the enemies within that we're really battling against.
ben bergquam
Are you okay with rapists?
Are you okay with murderers?
Very simple message from me to you.
unidentified
Screw you.
ben bergquam
We're sending them home.
steve bannon
Folks, get ready for Operation Midway Blitz.
Uh Ben Burkwam is joining us.
Ben, you're actually on the ground.
Uh, I want to put in perspective the Supreme Court ruling today.
I think the timing of that was very much timed to what's about to happen, or what I shouldn't say about to happen, is happening in Chicago right now.
The White House has put out almost like a group of trading cards.
I think I've gotten those to Denver.
We put them up.
Uh Ben, what is going on out there, sir on the ground?
ben bergquam
Yeah, no, it's kicking off uh Operation Midway Blitz.
This has been an entire ICE operation, but uh it's going to be kicking into high gear with all of the agencies again.
It's this whole government approach that we saw from the beginning with President Trump, but every single month they've been layering in new levels.
And this, to me, Steve, what you saw there, and just wait till you see the rest of this.
I was out there with these guys all day, going after one guy, one career criminal, illegal alien who's committed multiple crimes, who's been convicted.
We're in the neighborhood, we're going to get him.
Our car gets surrounded by radical leftists who are there to obstruct ice.
They end up calling Chicago PD.
PD shows up, and this guy is now still sitting in that neighborhood, protected because of the leftist activists.
This decision by the judge, or excuse me, by the Supreme Court in California.
This needs to ripple across America.
We need to be able to go into all of these communities.
And I'm actually right across the street.
Two things real quick.
I didn't even notice this.
My cameraman noticed it.
We're on Homan Street right there.
And right across the street is actually Chicago PD, CPD, where under Joe Biden, that place was full of illegals while the inner city was abandoned by Mayor Johnson and Governor Pritzker.
All of these facilities were full of illegals, and now they're trying to obstruct and stop them from getting kicked out of our country.
President Trump's not stopping.
Tom Homan's not stopping.
But these NGOs and these activist groups have to be prosecuted.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure, Ben, I'm going to hold you through the top of the hour.
We're going to drill down this more.
Operation Midway Blitz is underway in Chicago.
ICE is fully up and on this.
Of course, what Ben just said, it's a whole-of-government approach.
It's not simply ISIS, not simply DHS.
Um Ben, I just before I let you go here, we're gonna get you back at six.
Are you telling me the leftist activists surrounded ICE and then called Chicago PD who came out in the bad guy in the in the in the perpetrator got away?
ben bergquam
Yeah, well, well, he he basically uh just stayed in his in his house.
And so they called PD, Chicago PD, Chicago PD came out, it created this whole scene.
They ended up blocking the streets.
Uh PD ended up having to push them off the streets.
That's when we got out of the ice vehicle that we were with, uh, embedded with, and I went and confronted them to expose them.
But that's yes, now that criminal is still sitting in their neighborhood because of their obstruction.
Uh and by the way, these are the same people that that say they want to defund the police, but they're the first ones to call them.
steve bannon
Uh Ben Burkwam, can you hang on?
Uh we're gonna come back to you with Operation uh Midway Blitz, which is this ice uh, you know, up armored, uh, make sure you start to do the mass deportations, and you're gonna start that by getting at the bad ombre's uh it started today in Chicago.
As President Trump said, hey, he's coming to Chicago, he's done such a magnificent job in uh in DC.
If you talk to anybody, forget the statistics down 1700 percent, 2,000 percent.
Uh DC is a demonstrably safer city than it was when President Trump started this with the National Guard.
Mike Lindell, it's been a very long and tough day.
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