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Sept. 8, 2025 - Bannon's War Room

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Episode 4762: Gain Of Function Economy; Trump Speaks At The Religious Liberty Commission

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donald j trump

37:43

peter navarro

19:03

scott turner

07:13

steve bannon

33:15

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fareed zakaria

01:05

jillian barberie

02:07

mike lindell

02:07

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ali velshi

00:58

anne applebaum

00:58

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unidentified		As the president arrives, and I believe the Secret Service pushed you to keep your seats.
		I believe that's the so just kind of sit there and we'll advise you very shortly.
		So we'll take a brief break, gentlemen.
		You're at the war room.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's Monday, September, 8th, September in the year of our Lord, 2025.
unidentified		President Trump is about to arrive at the Museum of the Bible to address the Religious Liberty Commission.
unidentified		You just heard Cardinal Dolan speak.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They're taking a short break while the Secret Service checks the room out and the President takes the stage.
unidentified		We've got a very special guest.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We were going to open with this morning, maybe got big footed by the President.
unidentified		We'll get a little bit of it in.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Let's go ahead and play.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We've got a cold open and then live from the White House, Dr. Peter Navarro.
unidentified		Let's go ahead and let it rip.
fareed zakaria ▲ ● ▼		Look at the pictures that dominated this week's world news.
unidentified		They're vivid illustrations of the failure of Donald Trump's foreign policy.
		The images that captured most attention were of China's massive military parade and of Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, and Kim Jong-un striding together.
		Those were to be expected.
fareed zakaria ▲ ● ▼		A reminder that the West faces a determined set of adversaries who see it as their mission to destroy the Western-led international order.
unidentified		What was surprising were the images from the days before when the Shanghai Cooperation Organization hosted leaders from India, Turkey, Vietnam, and Egypt, among others.
fareed zakaria ▲ ● ▼		All these regional powers were generally considered closer to Washington than Beijing.
unidentified		But a toxic combination of tariffs, hostile rhetoric, and ideological demands is moving many of the world's pivotal states away from America and towards China.
unidentified		It may be the greatest own goal in modern foreign policy.
anne applebaum ▲ ● ▼		These are powers that have very different ideologies, nationalist, communist, theocratic, in the case of Iran, which is sometimes part of this group.
unidentified		What unites them is their dislike of us.
		And by us, I mean the democratic world, the language of rule of law, the language of transparency, the language of accountability.
		Because of course, that's the language of their own internal oppositions.
		And China and Russia in particular, but the rest as well, have been working for many years to delegitimize that language, to get the idea of human rights, for example, out of international documents, international institutions, and instead promote an idea that using the word sovereignty, which by the way is a word that the Trump administration also uses, by which they mean no one can criticize us, and we get to decide what happens inside our own countries.
		And also, if we feel like invading other countries, nobody can object.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		The White House says it will advance a $5 billion pocket rescission.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		It's a legally dubious attempt to claw back money that Congress has previously approved.
unidentified		A pocket rescission is a rarely used maneuver.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		Normally, if the president wants to rescind some funding, he can ask Congress to review it and authorize the change.
ali velshi ▲ ● ▼		Congress typically has 45 days to consider it.
unidentified		But a pocket rescission attempts to bypass that by introducing the matter so late into the process that Congress doesn't have enough time to weigh in.
		The fiscal year ends at the end of this month, 23 days away.
		If the White House moves forward with that, it essentially amounts to an authoritarian attempt to strip away Congress's explicit power of funding the government, the power of the purse.
		That's why it's more important than ever for Democrats to play hardball, to fight fire with fire.
		And some are suggesting that that means being prepared to shut down the government rather than funding it on Donald Trump's terms.
		Monday, 8th, September, Year of our Lord, 2025, right there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You heard a huge fight.
		I'll give you some more information about that as the show progresses about the two alternatives or the two basic alternatives, but pocket rescissions.
		In fact, the Trump administration just announced, Washington Post picked it up.
unidentified		They're throwing down for a huge fight, continual fight on foreign aid, doing pocket rescissions, rescissions, and all else.
		Okay, we're going to go live to the president as soon as he takes the stage at the Religious Liberties Commission.
		This was just announced that he was going to attend last night.
		They've been working on it for a while, I think, Vince Haley and the team over there.
		Pretty good speech lined up.
		Let's go to Dr. Peter Navarro.
		Doc, we were going to spend the morning, part of the morning with you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Looks like you're getting big footed by your boss, but that's that's OK.
unidentified		Talk to me about where you would cut away to the president when I'm here.
		I mean, I'm shocked.
		Hold it, hold it, hold it.
		I am going to tell the president later.
		I'm going to tell the president later in the day, actually, Navarro gets better ratings, but we always cut to him.
		And I'll see how that sets with him.
		Peter.
		You should do that.
		I think you take away your red line there.
		You have a red phone in there, don't you?
		When there's a crisis, they call Bannon.
		Is that how that works?
		No, no, no, no.
		By the way, you don't.
		I want it for the record.
		I want it for Media Matters.
		Navarro gets high ratings here, but nobody outrates the president.
		Peter, I want to talk about the trade deals, your tariffs, because we saw today Semaphore has a lead story by Ben Smith and the team over there talking about the conference call that the BRICS Nations had, the Zoom call they had the day after the parade.
		So you had the Shanghai Cooperation Agreement for two days.
		Then you had the military parade.
		The next day, the BRICS Nations got on the phone.
		And it just wasn't talking about, it was deeper than even taking on the U.S. dollar, which they're doing with these by-lad deals to try to hide the de-dollarization.
		This is one of the reasons gold's blown through 3,600 earlier in the morning.
		But this was really where they talked about uniting to fight Dr. Navarro and President Trump's terrorists, which they called blatant protectionism.
		Your response, sir.
		Well, let's see how this is going to work out.
		Let's see, like, okay, Russia getting into bed with China.
		China claims they own Vladivostok, the Russian port, and they're already through massive illegal immigration into Siberia, basically colonizing Siberia, which is the biggest landmass of the Russian semi-empire.
		So good luck with that, Putin.
		And then India, of course, has been at war with China for decades.
		And, oh, I just remembered, yeah, it was China that gave Pakistan a nuclear bomb.
		You got ships flying around in the Indian Ocean now with Chinese flags.
		Modi, see how you kind of work that out.
		Meanwhile, the Brazil economy is going on the tubes because of Lula's socialist policies.
		Well, they keep the real leader of that country in a cell.
		So let's see what happens.
		But the bottom line is none of these countries can survive if they don't sell to the United States.
		And when they sell to the United States their exports, they're like vampires sucking us our blood dry with their unfair trade practices.
		So look, let's see what happens.
		But I don't see how the BRIC alliance stays together since historically they all hate each other and kill each other.
		Look, there's pretty powerful economics that President Trump and yourself have laid out when you're talking to these partners.
		We hear the BRICS Nations, we hear that they're trying to unify against us.
		But correct me if I'm wrong, you're still in active, they've either gotten a letter and laid out what the terms are, and this is what we're implementing, or you're in active still discussions with India and others to pull deals together.
		Are we correct in that?
		Yeah, let's run them down.
		We got 50% plus tariffs on China, and there's discussions ongoing.
		But the reality with China is, first and foremost, they continue not only to kill us with fentanyl, but there's this new drug outnitidine that's like eight times more deadly than fentanyl that's coming at us.
		So that's going on.
		And of course, India, they have the highest, I call them the Maharaja tariffs.
		The Indian government takes offense to that, but it's absolutely true.
		They have the highest tariffs of any major country in the world against the United States.
peter navarro ▲ ● ▼		We got to deal with that.
unidentified		And then this, you know, buying Russian oil.
		Steve, look, they never bought Russian oil before Russia invaded Ukraine, except for like little tiny drops of it.
		And then they go into this mode of profiteering with Indian, with Russian refiners coming on to India's soil and profiteering.
		So taxpayers here wind up having to send more money over there.
		So a lot of things going on.
		The good news here is, like, look at the little things we've done.
		Great deal with the European Union, great deal with Japan, Korea, Philippines, Indonesia.
		All these countries are working very closely with us because, one, they realize that they've been taking too much advantage of us.
		And two, they need our markets.
		And I think India must come around at some point.
		And if it doesn't, it's laying down with Russia and China.
		And that won't end well for India.
		I don't want to get you ahead of the president on this, but you know, this is my favorite.
		The Financial Times of last week, which Xi said that China's, their rise is an unstoppable power, and they had Putin and Kim on the podium.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting they did not have Modi.
unidentified		He opted out of that.
unidentified		But a question comes up, you guys have been particularly focused on, go ahead.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
unidentified		Why is it interesting?
		No, no, no.
		I just agree with you.
		If Modi's not there, that's very interesting.
		Go ahead, Sam.
		So you've been at the tip of the spear, not just in the working negotiations over there, but calling out India on secondary sanctions for taking Russian oil.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Correct me if I'm wrong.
unidentified		You don't have the rise of China.
		I understand you and President Trump and Besant and others are trying to work out a very complicated deal with China.
		But I just look around the world and I see that they're buying 100% energy source from three parties.
		Russia, which they should be sanctioned if we're going to sanction India.
		The Mulas in Persia, which we've already, I think, technically sanctioned that.
		And I don't know why we're allowing oil to come out of the Straits of Huromuz to China, both on cargo ships we know, or oil tankers we see, plus black market.
		Then we have an amphibious battle group, the Iwo Jima battle group with 4,000 Marines down there on an expeditionary force off of Venezuela, of which I believe China is also taking oil from Venezuela, which I think we kind of sanctioned that too.
		Isn't there a logic here that if we just implement the sanctions that I think we've talked about on Russia, the Mulas in Persia, and Madara and Venezuela, that the Chinese Communist Party essentially has zero energy, and then you can bring them to the table a little bit easier, sir?
		Look, we're walking a fine line here with all of this.
		I think that what's got to happen is India's got to stop buying Russian oil.
		That's going to be good for the whole peace.
		The road to peace partly runs through New Delhi.
		Europe certainly has to stop buying Russian oil.
		And dealing with Iran and Venezuela, that's got to happen.
		I mean, look, with China, we got over 50% tariffs on them, and we're doing the best we can in terms of negotiating to protect the American people without hurting the American people.
		And that's the kabuki and the art of diplomacy that we've got going on.
		You just got to trust in Trump.
		I mean, look at where we've come, Steve.
		I mean, the difference between this administration and 45, I mean, I was this building here.
		I had to fight everybody in this place to advance the president's agenda on trade.
		Everybody now is pulling in the same direction.
		And what's happening here is it's going to be for the history book, Steve.
		This is a fundamental restructuring of the international trade environment in ways you can't even imagine could have happened.
		And President Trump's pulling it off.
		Yeah.
		I gave this speech the other day, though, to National Conservatism.
		And I've sat on the show, and you and I talk about it a lot.
		That with the Chinese Communist Party, particularly, this was not a, you know, President Trump said, hey, if you're going to do a conspiracy, in fact, the headline says Trump sees anti-U.S. conspiracy.
		I said, I think this is more of a flex.
		This is more up in your grill.
		And we know, Peter, that you and Bob Lighthizer worked for two years, two years on a deal that President Trump was the master architect of.
		For two years, you guys negotiated with Lee Hu.
		He did it with Xi.
		In May of 2019, after they agreed to the deal, right, when they thought they had one belt, one road going.
		In fact, it was at the same Shanghai cooperation agreement.
		This is when they were really rolling out one belt, one road, and Putin was there.
		They tore the deal up and spit in our face.
		I mean, can you, it just seems we're on a path with these guys that at some point in time, you know, we're the hard decouple group here.
		And I understand President Trump can't do that.
		You can't do that because you're trying to, you know, manage a world economy.
		But do you believe, or does the White House believe the senior people around President Trump that we can trust these guys?
		Because now they feel they're on a roll, sir.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		No, we, you know, look.
		And I am always here as long as I will be here to remind everybody about the history you've just gone through.
		I mean, the problem is that you can negotiate and then they'll cancel a deal at the last minute.
		That's one of the techniques.
		So that was the first big trade deal I worked with with Bob.
		And then once we got the skinny deal in January of 2020, they come here and they knew when they were sitting in the East Wing that the virus was about to descend on the world.
		They didn't tell us that.
		They took that deal and they basically didn't follow through on it, right?
		And then we've had some issues with the whole rare earth deal where some letter versus spirit of the agreement and things like that.
		Nobody can trust the communist Chinese.
		I mean, that's what they do.
		And they always like say, well, that's not what we meant or whatever.
		So I guess my point here, Steve, is, can you trust the Chinese communists?
		No.
		Full stop.
		So it's going to be trust and verify squared.
		Yeah.
		If you know the maths, right?
		I want to go back, though, for a second, because it's beyond trust.
		And President Trump's a harder toughen negotiation yet.
	Yes.
	But you go back to 2019.
	2019, I remember we used to have you on the show, and you would say you go on, you know, on CNBC and Squawk and everything on the 2019 deal.
	People should understand what happened is that Peter and I stepped back in 2017 and led Gary Cohen and the Commerce Department, Wilbur Ross.
	They wanted to do their thing after the Mar-a-Lago, after the Mar-a-Lago meeting.
	And of course, it was an epic fail because they basically gave everything to the Chinese.
	And President Trump says, we're not doing that.
	That was in June, July of 2017.
	He says, no, no, no, we're not going to do that.
	He deputized Lighthizer Navarro to work under him directly for two years, two years, and made a deal that integrated the Chinese Communist Party into the global economy.
	You had a great saying.
	It took care of the seven original sins of the Chinese Communist Party's, you know, not just counterfeiting, but state-owned industries, excess capacity, dumping, all of it.
	It was all negotiated over two years.
	Lee Hu, who was one of the senior guys.
	In tearing that up, don't they show that they have no interest in being part of an organized entity that is the world economy?
	I mean, they criticize you and President Trump for being isolationist.
	You're anything but, right?
	We are America first and one American sovereignty, but these deals, the restructuring of this commercial relationships with the world, are to also benefit the world to make sure that their economies appropriately, right, can grow.
	But doesn't this show that we're chasing our tails here a little bit?
	Because the Chinese Communist Party is not only can't you trust them, and President Trump will work out trust but verify, but at the end of the day, they have no interest in being part of a system that the Americans control, sir.
	Shipmate, I think you're missing one of the big parts of the story.
	Remember when Bob and I were negotiating with the Chinese to get that big deal at the time, we had already imposed significant historic tariffs on China through Section 301.
	And that was our leverage.
	And fast forward now, it's the same situation.
	We've got over 50% tariffs on the Chinese as talks of a trade deal are being floated out there.
	So what the point here, Shipmate, is that Donald Trump puts these actions in place on behalf of the American public, and only then does he continue these negotiations.
	So let's see what happens.
	But look, let's remember, too, sir, that after they broke the deal, what happened next?
	It was something called the pandemic.
	And I remember very clearly standing right here on this ground, the Chinese telling us they were going to bury us in a sea of virus if we dared.
	And I was the only one who dared in this administration to say that that friggin' virus came from Wuhan Lau.
	Okay?
	So what am I saying here?
	That we got supply chain issues with the communist Chinese that we've got to deal with.
	We've got big issues.
	Negotiating them is not the same as negotiating with just about any other country.
	But we do not, of course, you know, trust but verify.
	It's the Reagan years.
	But trust but verify, but while you're doing it, put stuff in place.
	Over, yeah.
	Yeah, 50%.
	Go ahead.
	The 50% tariffs are clearly having an impact.
	You can tell that.
	That's one of the reasons she's starting to squirm.
	Okay, so you've essentially given the world, President Trump's given the world two options: either if you want to get through the golden door to the golden market, you're going to have to pay a tolling fee, right?
	Or you can shift your production over here.
	Now, the Hyundai situation, it appears, at least from local people we're hearing in Georgia and people going to TikTok, that the reason it was people started calling ICE was local people, and I think Christian groups were saying the 400 of the 475, 300, I think, were Koreans, that they weren't paying them any money.
	They had no food.
	They couldn't go to any food bank or have anything because they were here illegally.
	How do you and President Trump sort out the reality?
	I mean, he went up on True Social and said, yo, when you come here, you're going to have to train local Americans.
	Walk me through this Hyundai because they're one of the most powerful companies in the world, the one of the dominant countries in Korea.
	And Mo and Grace were just over at the great conference put on by Mina Kim with the young Korean people about turning that thing around from the CCP-controlled government they have.
	So walk me through the Hyundai situation.
	Well, I think here's what we have to understand.
	This used to be the Chinese model.
	I think it's more appropriately called the Asian model.
	It's like to evade tariffs.
	What these countries are doing is they're coming over to this country and other countries where they can transship from.
	And they bring their equipment, lock, stock, and barrel.
	They bring their management, locked, stock, and barrel.
	And in this case, for example, they brought their own employees from their own country and exploited them.
	So I think what's see, we're in the West, sometimes, Steve, we're just so friggin naive, right?
	And so going forward, as we welcome all these trillions of dollars of investment, I think there has to be some awareness that, hey, if they're going to come over and invest over here, they're going to use American workers and the American supply chain here.
	You just can't set up a factory here and become like an assembly line using cheap American labor.
	You got to have good jobs for Americans.
	I mean, it's like the reason why we have tariffs now on European autos is because they were turning South Carolina into a low-wage sweatshop assembly plant for Mercedes-Benz.
	I mean, there was like one model they sent over, it had 99% of all the content of the car was German or Hungarian.
	And no, it's like, but the sheriff's in town.
	His name's Donald John Trump.
	He's right about over there, although he's out and about now at that conference you're about to televise.
	And I just want to assure everybody in the war room, we know what people are doing out there, whether it's China or other trading partners.
	We're not going to let them get away with it.
	And the American worker in particular is going to see their wages go up or their job prospects expand.
	No, the employment numbers for Native-born Americans is just enormous.
	By the way, what Dr. Navarro is talking about, we're going to go live momentarily when the president takes the stand, takes the stage over at the Religious Liberties Commission conference.
	He's going to say a few words to give some remarks.
	Peter, you know, they're all over.
	The president has deputized or militarized the National Guard and had them in D.C. to clean up this mess.
	I was telling people on the Saturday show, I was with some folks, I think, on Friday, in Georgetown at a dinner who are, I would say, not Trump fans.
	And to a person, they were talking about how much safer the city was, how much safer Georgetown is, how much safer everything is.
	What President Trump is, I mean, they were singing his high hosanna, although not one of them would come out publicly and say that.
	The Atlantic Magazine, and all the, you know, morning, Joe, and everybody's the authoritarianism.
	He's going to Chicago.
	He's going to New York, going to L.A., the authoritarianism.
	The Atlantic Magazine is taking a different approach, but along the same lines.
	They're calling what President Trump and you and the team and Scott and the team over at the White House and Treasury are doing is peronism.
	That basically you've got strongman economics where President Trump picks winners and losers.
	He takes a stake in Intel.
	He's going to take stakes in more companies.
	He every day gets up and puts a different tariff on somebody if they tick him off.
	What is your response to this?
	Because I can see a very sophisticated, and you hear it on Squawkbox, you hear it on Bloomberg TV, you hear it all the time that their line of attack here is going to be this is an authoritarian economy based upon peronism where you have a strongman that just makes decisions, sir.
	Well, let's talk about economics and let's talk about law and order.
	Let's start with the law and order first.
	Here in D.C., what people have to understand is that years ago, there was a significant crime rate, but it was isolated to certain neighborhoods.
	And shame on the government of the District of Columbia for essentially letting black neighborhoods become just shooting galleries.
	What's happened, particularly since the post-pandemic and the flood of illegal aliens, is the crime's everywhere.
	It's in the subways, it's in the squares.
	It's just like you just can't walk down the street without fearing for your life.
	That's a real thing that doesn't show up in the statistics.
	And it's been absolutely gorgeous having the National Guard here.
	I mean, it literally has turned everything around and people feel safe again.
	And you can't really have a thriving, functioning urban environment if people are afraid to go out and do things.
	It just doesn't work.
	So if the left wants to call Latin something bad, I encourage them to keep doing it because they're going to get their frigging ass kicked at the polls by people who understand the difference between violence and safety.
	So have at it, Atlantic.
	Have at it, Morning Joe.
	Have at it whoever you want.
	It's like people want to be safe in their homes and on the streets and in their cars and not have to worry about their loved ones going out when they're home.
	And that's what D.C. is like now, and it wasn't.
	And I think what the strong man Donald Trump shows, you can flip that on a dime.
	Our takes his will and some National Guard or police.
	Okay, now, with respect to the economics, the Perrone thing is kind of interesting, Steve.
	I know you're a student of history.
	Perone, the first time in, which was a long time, he was in from 40, 1946 to 55, post-war, when countries were getting off the ground, having been knocked down.
	And he instituted a regime of tariffs that was actually quite effective, Steve.
	It brought back a lot of their domestic industries, and workers, who were Perrone's main base, saw their real wages increase significantly.
	It was a very successful policy, but Perrone made one big mistake when he was doing that.
	In addition to the tariffs, he aggressively taxed the exports of agriculture.
	And that was a disaster.
	And so he just, and now the other thing to obviously say is that when you think about a country tariffing, small countries dependent on the rest of the world to export cannot do that.
	They don't have the power, and it shows up in things like elasticities and supply and demand.
	It's a stupid strategy.
	Argentina is not the United States.
	On the other hand, there's very good economic theory and practice that shows that the largest market in the world, the United States, actually benefits greatly by having tariffs.
	There's a whole literature on optimal tariffs for dominant countries and dominant economies.
	And that's why every other country in the world that we're negotiating with will negotiate with us.
	I mean, if Denmark tried the same thing that Donald Trump is doing for the United States, people would laugh at Denmark.
	They're not laughing at Donald John Trump.
	They're working with Donald John Trump.
	And it's just, I mean, it's a fundamental restructuring of a trade system that has been killing us since the end of World War II.
	We liberated the world at the end of World War II, and they stole our economy.
	It just, you can't make that up.
	Dr. Navarro, the president's going to start a momentarily.
	I want to talk about you and I are going to spend a lot of time this week in the run-up to a very special event.
	We're going to be there Friday, but on Saturday, you're going to join us.
	Talk to us about this event coming up and the importance of it and the importance of your book.
	Well, the book is called I Went to Prison So You Won't Have To.
	I'd really encourage the posse to go to Amazon after the show and buy that book, get it for yourself, get it for a friend.
	It basically documents the kind of lawfare and weaponization of the justice system, what it's like to be a prisoner of conscience inside of jail.
	And, Steve, you and I went through that personally.
	You and I went to prison because the person who occupied this White House before Donald John Trump came right at us.
	And one of the messages of I went to prison so you won't have to is that if they can come for Steve Bannon, if they can come for Peter Navarro, if they can come for Donald Trump, they can come for all of us, Steve.
	All of us.
	And so we have to fight back.
	So you and I are going to get on stage at this great venue in Long Island for an hour on Saturday the 13th.
	We'll look at us as the pregame to the college football schedule that afternoon.
	And we're going to box it around.
	We're going to debate who had the tougher time in prison.
	I'm going to knock you out on that.
	And it's but yeah, look, Posse, if you want to know what it's like to have to go to prison for a misdemeanor defending the Constitution, read, I went to prison so you won't have to.
	Hold it.
	I went to, hang on.
	I went to a tougher, I went to a prison.
	You went to a club fed.
	Hang on, hang on.
	But you had a tougher time because they picked on you.
	You're an older man.
	No, real quickly, you're all over the news this morning about you're continuing to fight for constitutional.
	The reason we went to prison was constitutional principles, right?
	We weren't going to back down.
	We just said this thing's totally illegitimate.
	Just get the people, it was a little confusing because the Justice Department has kind of like dropped the charges, right?
	And are not going to pursue it as you appeal and go up to the Supreme Court.
	So if they're not pursuing it, what are you arguing for now?
	Is this Navarro being honorey, or is this, is there some logic here?
	So I went to prison so you won't have to.
	I could have just said, I went to prison so future senior White House advisors will not have to go to prison.
	And what I'm fighting for on appeal, there's no reason for me to continue to appeal in a case for personal reasons because I did my time, but I'm doing it for the Constitution.
	It's like if I lose my appeal, then every senior advisor, regardless of party going forward, will face the same choice I did.
	It's a Hobson's choice.
	You either defend executive privilege and constitutional separation of powers and wind up going to prison, or you bend your knee to a partisan Congress.
	I chose what honor and duty required me to do.
	Now, what's going on here?
	This is really interesting, Steve.
	Department of Justice, like they were adamant not only about prosecuting me, but here's the important thing, Steve.
	They argued against both you and me that we had to go to prison, serve time, even as our appeal was going on.
	We couldn't be released pending appeal.
	And they argued that because there were no, quote, substantial constitutional issues in the case.
	Well, of course, there were.
	There's big issues about executive privilege, constitutional separation of powers.
	And I'm taking it there.
	And now the Justice Department withdrew their brief, which is a tacit admission that, of course, there's substantial issues.
	But by law and by ethics, they damn well got to say why they did it, Steve, so that going forward on the appeal, the appeals court understands, the amicus, which they want to understand, and we have something to fight.
	Okay?
	So read John Solomon's article.
	It's a gorgeous thing as to how they've done what they did.
	But we're going to hold their feet to the fire.
	We're going to get to the bottom of this.
	And we're going to do it for this country and the Constitution.
	Peter, where do people, Dr. Navarro, where do people go to find out all of your analysis, all the clips you do from all the media you do?
	The warrior will push the book.
	The book's going to be a huge bestseller because it gives you an inside baseball account of the struggle when President Trump was out of office to make sure that he was properly defended and not crushed by Lisa Monaco, now the head of Microsoft's legal department.
	Maybe the guys putting together the tech dinner should have thought of that before, putting Bill Gates next to the president.
	Dr. Navarro, where do people go on your social media, sir?
	Sure.
	Substack, peternavarro.subzack.com, peternavaro.subzack.com.
	What's interesting there is I put everything up in terms of the things that are going on at the White House.
	So that's a really good way to stay abreast of that.
	And then the usual ex-getter, True Social and Instagram.
	The ex is RealP Navarro as his getter, and then Peter Navarro at True Social.
	But we got a lot of fights on our hands.
	And Steve, the war room does the leading edge in terms of making this fight.
	And we appreciate you being there.
	I'm still going to kick your ass on the September 13th.
	No hope, Barnard.
	I'm going to explain to everybody out there why having to sleep in a dorm with 40 guys is a lot more dangerous than having a bunky in a little cell where you were hiding out.
	And we'll have that kind of argument.
	But the book itself, well, I went to prison, so you want to have to.
	It's funny, but it's got a hard edge, too, brother.
	And I'm going to hit you with it.
	I'm going to ask you, buddy.
	It's also, I don't want to give up too much.
	It's also an amazing love story, believe it or not, with Dr. Navarre.
	It's an amazing love story.
	It's one of my favorite people.
	I know you're watching.
	Anyway, sir, thank you.
	Thank you, brother.
	Dr. Peter Navarro, what a way to start off the week.
	My brother, we'll talk again.
	We'll see you on the 13, man.
	No boxing gloves.
	We're going bare knuckle, buddy.
	Okay, sir.
	Thank you.
	God, Navarro works out every day.
	You've seen those TikToks of him pumping and lifting and riding that bike around.
	Gold.
	Gold's blown through 3,600.
	I put up an article today from another source, not Birch Gold.
	In fact, I think it was the Financial Times.
	I haven't gotten the Financial Times article up yet.
	Another one, Gold's at 3,672, I think, up 18, 20 bucks a day.
	That BRICS nation, what the BRICS are doing on protectionism, they're also, here's what you know, as we, as the Birch Gold guys, because we sent a team down to Rio, and I was really proud of the fact that's one of the reasons we love the partnership we have with them is to they sent Philip Patrick and the team down and they reported exactly what was going on.
	The de-dollarization effort is massive, but they're hiding it under these bilateral trade deals.
	That's one of the things you saw yesterday about the protectionism.
	The BRICS are trying to become a real anti-American force, an anti-American government.
	By the way, we know that I think they're doing mic checks right now over at the Museum of the Bible.
	Here comes the president right now.
	Let's cut live to the Museum of the Bible, President Trump and the Religious Liberties Commission.
	Go live.
	Thank you very much.
	I said, we'll have to cut Lee Greenwood a little bit short.
	How good is he, right?
	He's been with us right from the beginning.
	And I wanted to stand and listen to the entire zone, but people would have said, look at the ego of that guy.
	He just wouldn't stop.
	He just stood there and listened to the applause.
	But I appreciate it very much.
	And I want to thank you for doing an incredible job, Pam Bondi.
	The Attorney General has been unbelievable.
	Incredible job.
	Thank you.
	And thank you to all of the faith leaders, pastors, and patriots who have come to the Museum of the Bible for this historic meeting of the Presidential Commission on Religious Liberty.
	These are incredible people.
	And everybody wanted to be on this commission.
	And I made a couple of people unhappy, maybe even enemies for life.
	I don't know.
	But they all wanted to be on the commission, but we picked the right ones, and they've done really a profound and amazing job.
	But America was founded on faith, as we know, and I've been saying it for a long time.
	And when faith gets weaker, our country seems to get weaker.
	When faith gets stronger, as it is right now, we're having a very good period of time.
	After some rough years, good things happen for our country.
	It's amazing the way it seems to work that way.
	And under the Trump administration, we're defending our rights and restoring our identity as a nation under God.
	We are one nation under God, and we always will.
	The need for this commission has never been more clear than it was last week when the ineffectual senator from Virginia, a man named Tim Kaine, stated that the notion our rights come from our creator is.
	quote, extremely troubling to him.
	Very troubling, isn't it troubling?
	Isn't that terrible, though?
	How he would say something like that, and advocated really by a totalitarian regime.
	This is what they say.
	But as everyone in this room understands, it is tyrants who are denying our rights and the rights that come from God.
	And it's this Declaration of Independence that proclaims we're endowed by our Creator with the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
	The senator from Virginia should be ashamed of himself for many things.
	For many things.
	For things even beyond that.
	But in its own way, nothing's more important than those words.
	They were terrible words.
	As president, I will always defend our nation's glorious heritage, and we will protect the Judeo-Christian principles of our founding, and we will protect them with vigor.
	We have to bring back religion in America, bring it back stronger than ever before as our country grows stronger and stronger.
	Our country is now the hottest nation anywhere in the world.
	One year ago, our country was dead.
	And I say it, one year ago, our country was dead.
	We had leaders from all over the world that talked to me and say, your country is in trouble.
	And I just left the Middle East, King of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, a lot of the big countries.
	And I was with the heads of NATO, the NATO nations.
	All of them, everyone said essentially the same thing, that a year ago your country was dead, and now you have the hottest country anywhere in the world.
	It's true.
	It's true in every way.
	But to have a great nation, you have to have religion.
	I believe that so strongly.
	There has to be something after we go through all of this.
	And that something is God.
	We go through all of this for a reason.
	It's not easy, Felipe.
	But I want to thank the Commission's chairman, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick.
	He's been the chairman of my Texas campaign from day one.
	He's been the chairman of my Texas campaign, and we went through six primers, and we went through everything that we went through, and we won them all.
	We won everything, including three elections.
	Got the most votes in the history of Texas three times.
	Can you believe that?
	That's pretty cool.
	I heard that the other day.
	I said, I like that.
	But I want to thank you, Dan.
	You've done a great job, been very instrumental in the creation of what we're doing today.
	well as a very special friend of mine, Dr. Ben Carson, so special that he's being honored.
	He's being honored in a couple of weeks, and I was absolutely not here.
	It was a very important mission for the country, because I usually take missions only for the country.
	But this was for the country, and I said, I can't do that one.
	I'm going to go back.
	I'm going to be with Ben Carson at Mount Vernon, I believe it's going to be.
	Pretty good place, pretty good location, right, Ben?
	But he's been my friend from the beginning.
	Right from the beginning.
	Should I tell him the story about what you said to me, Ben?
	The famous words?
	He was a very tough opponent.
	We were fighting it out, and we had actually 18 candidates, including me.
	And Ben came up to me right after the first debate.
	He said, You know you're going to win, don't you?
	And I said, No, I don't know that.
	I think I'm going to win, but I don't know it.
	18 people and I had never done it before.
	They had all done it.
	They were all governors and senators, talented people.
	He said, no, you're going to win it because God wants you to win it.
	But that didn't stop him.
	We went through.
	I said, When is this guy going to quit?
	He gave me these words of beauty.
	Then he goes for weeks and weeks.
	He was tough.
	He was a tough one.
	But we love Ben.
	Ben's special.
	And we appreciate it.
	Thank you, Ben.
	Thanks also to the commission members, including Secretary Scott Turner.
	Pastor Paula White, who's been with me from the very beginning.
	Pastor Franklin Graham, great, great chairman.
	Great gentleman.
	Thank you, Franklin.
	A man I've watched for years on television, but you're not supposed to admit it.
	You know, it's like with me.
	People don't like to admit it, but we all watch Phil McGraw, Dr. Phil, Dr. Phil.
	Thank you, Phil.
	Great guy.
	He came out early for me.
	He did a piece on me before the election that was different than any interview I've ever done.
	He asked me the most personal questions.
	I said, this guy's really getting personal.
	But everybody that saw it loved it, so thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Cardinal Timothy Dolan, highly respected man.
	I come from New York.
	He was in his own right the king.
	He was great.
	We worked together in the first administration so much on going through that horrible epidemic that we went through.
	A couple of epidemics we had to go through, a couple of really bad ones, but we worked together and I helped financially with your church and your schools, keeping your schools going, and it was an honor to do so.
	Bishop Robert Barron, Bishop, thank you very much.
	Appreciate it.
	Great job you've done.
	A man I watch on television a lot, he doesn't believe it, and I do.
	Eric attacks us.
	Where is Eric?
	Eric?
	I do watch.
	He said, you really don't.
	I said, I really do.
	I said, you have to have more confidence in this.
	Your show is excellent.
	And he's a great guy.
	And he wants me to call it the supercentennial.
	He said, supercentennial.
	And I think we're going to do that.
	Let's change it.
	I really like that idea because we call it the 250 centennial, but it's really not.
	It's really just below the try, right?
	So we're going to call it supercentennial then.
	Okay?
	Let's do that.
	Will you please make the change?
	All of my people that are all over the room, please make that change.
	A wonderful person who I've known for a long time, Kelly Shackelford.
	Kelly?
	Thank you very much.
	Great job.
	Ryan Anderson.
	Ryan, thank you.
	Congratulations.
	Carrie Bowler and Allison Ho.
	Carrie?
	Two great people.
	And we're also joined by the chairman of the Faith and Freedom Coalition, Ralph Reed.
	Here's Ralph Reed.
	Ralph, you helped so much.
	You know, Ralph, I think, hit more doorbells than anybody else I know.
	Millions and millions.
	What was the number, Ralph?
	10 million.
	10 million.
	And it's true.
	You know, somebody else would say, well, was it really?
	And it was.
	People are saying he was all over the place.
	Thank you very much, Ralph.
	I appreciate it.
	We'll never forget it.
	Thank you.
	Let me also thank everyone at the Museum of the Bible, including Steve and Jackie Green.
	The job they've done is just incredible.
	I want to say their entire family is here.
	I want to all hear it, but they founded this beautiful museum to honor the most widely read book in history.
	And the job they've done is amazing.
	I asked, which museum does the best?
	You know, I always like to find that out.
	And numerous times they're saying to the Museum of the Bible that more people come here than anyone else.
	You probably won't read that in the newspapers or the media, but this is an amazing place, and it does tremendously well, so respected.
	And they built it up, and it was a labor of love.
	Well, it's nice that he's rich as hell, too.
	It always helps.
	Where are you?
	Where are you guys?
	Where are they?
	Look at that.
	They don't even get good location.
	See, if I did the Museum of the Bible, it wouldn't be as successful, but I'd be sitting right here.
	No, I'd be sitting up here.
	You've done a great job.
	Everybody's talking about it.
	I got a little involved with museums, you know, because I had a little problem with the Smithsonian.
	We liked a little more positivity.
	It was all about all the bad things in our country.
	I said, what about the good things we've done?
	So I got a little involved.
	I got a little involved with that.
	And they're making, honestly, they're making changes.
	You know, they were also told what to do by people that came before me, in all fairness.
	But they're making changes.
	Big changes are being made at the Smithsonian.
	But I just want to thank the Green family because what you've done here is incredible.
	Thank you very much.
	For thousands of years, the Bible has shaped civilization, ethics, art, and literature, and it's brought hope, healing, and transformation to untold millions and millions of lives.
	The Bible is also an important part of the American story.
	That's why I'm delighted to announce that just moments ago, I personally delivered the Trump Family Bible given to me by my mother.
	I remember the time she gave it to me.
	It was used in both my inaugurations and also display at the museum, and I guess it will now be displayed right in the heart of our nation's capital right here, and that's an honor.
	That's an honor.
	We're here this morning to discuss the grave threats to religious liberty in American schools.
	And you know what's going on.
	We all know what's going on.
	But I will tell you, a lot of progress has been made in the last eight months, tremendous progress, more than I thought we could make in so many ways.
	Not only that, the woke agenda is practically gone.
	It's deep-seated.
	We have to make sure it's out.
	It's very bad.
	It's like a weed.
	You think you killed it and then it starts growing again.
	So we have to be careful.
	But it's very, very different than it was.
	You look at West Point, how proud they are of their heritage.
	They did something this week which I thought was appropriate.
	Some of you know what that is.
	Does anybody know what that is?
	Yeah, I like it.
	I like it.
	Oh, look at who we have over here.
	We have your associate, Pam, huh?
	Leo 2.0.
	Well, we have Leo here.
	We have.
	Is he doing a good job, Pam?
	It's great.
	He said, DOJ, he's a great man.
	He's a great friend of mine for a long time.
	I'm glad I got to see him.
	I would have been in big trouble, Pam, if I didn't say him.
	But thank you, Leo, very much.
	I appreciate it.
	For most of our country's history, the Bible was found in every classroom in the nation.
	Yet in many schools today, students are instead indoctrinated with anti-religious propaganda, and some are even punished for their religious beliefs and very, very strongly punished.
	It's ridiculous.
	Joining us this morning is Hannah Allen from Honeygrove, Texas.
	A few years ago, Hannah organized a group of her classmates to pray for an injured peer.
	The school principal declared that Hannah's generous act of love was prohibited from taking place in front of the other students.
	Didn't like it.
	The principal didn't like it.
	Can you imagine?
	But Hannah very strongly stood her ground and she won.
	And Hannah, I just want to thank you for letting the light of your faith shine for all of those to see.
	We really appreciate it.
	And where is Hannah?
	Is Hannah here someplace?
	I think so.
	Hannah, stand up, please.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you, Hannah.
	I know what you went through.
	I know what you went through.
	It's great.
	Appreciate it.
	To support students like Hannah, I'm pleased to announce this morning that the Department of Education will soon issue new guidance protecting the right to prayer in our public schools.
	And it's total protection.
	Great job.
	See what you did, Hannah?
	Who knew?
	Who knew that was going to happen, right?
	Thank you, Darling.
	Also with us is 12-year-old Shea Encinas from California.
	Last year in fifth grade, Shay was forced to read a book to a kindergarten student promoting a message of radical gender ideology that is contrary to his religious beliefs and ours.
	I'd like to have Shay come up and tell the story.
	It's an amazing story.
	Shea, please come up.
	Thank you again, Mr. President.
	Hi, I'm Shane Cenas.
	I've been a Christian my whole life, and Jesus means everything to me.
	When I was in fifth grade, my school forced me to teach my kindergarten buddy about changing his gender using a book called My Shy Wish Pink.
	The book said you can choose your gender based on feelings instead of how God made us.
	I knew this was not right, but I was afraid of getting in trouble.
	After my family spoke up, the school treated us badly, and kids started bullying me and my brother because of our faith.
	And the school did nothing to stop it.
	It hurt a lot, but I kept trusting God.
	I believe kids like me should be able to live on faith at school without being forced to go against what we believe.
	I hope no other family has to go through what mine did.
	Thank you.
	Thank you, Shea.
	Great.
	Great job.
	That was delivered well, wasn't it?
	On day one of my administration, I signed an executive order to slash federal funding for any school that pushes transgender insanity on our youth.
	We also banned the chemical and surgical mutilation of our children.
	Thank you.
	We got men out of women's sports.
	How tough was that?
	But could you imagine, sir, I'm just thinking to myself, transgender for everybody, men playing in women's sports, all of the different things we talk about.
	It's insane.
	And if you were here 15, 20 years ago, and if somebody made a speech about transgender for everyone, I always say transgender because for everyone.
	Transgender.
	We have some states that actually can force it upon you without the parents' notification or approval.
	It's not even believable.
	But can you imagine men playing in women's sports?
	So you're up 15 years ago, I guess, probably 10 years ago, but 15 years ago, and somebody said, we will not allow men to play in women's sports.
	People would look at the person and say, what's he talking about?
	Is he crazy?
	It happened.
	And not only that, the Democrats don't want to give it up.
	I watched the congressmen fighting like crazy this weekend for men having the right to play in women's sports.
	And they don't understand.
	But I don't want to really fight them on that.
	I tell all the Republicans, let them go.
	Let them go.
	Just bring it up about a week before the election because you don't want to talk about it.
	But they say it's an 80-20 issue.
	I say, Dan, it's a 97-3 issue, okay?
	And transgender is about the same.
	It's crazy.
	It's sort of a crazy thing.
	The world gone wrong.
	Just the world gone wrong.
	And I made the official policy of the United States government that there are only two genders.
	You're going to hate this.
	Male and female.
	And we got rid of a very sinister thing, the Johnson Amendment, so that pastors can speak the truth that's in their hearts.
	You know, I'll tell you, I was in a boardroom early on.
	Paula was there.
	A couple of people in the room were there.
	But we had about 50 pastors, some rabbis.
	We had people from a few different religions.
	And I was just running.
	I'd never done it before.
	So it was very early in the campaign.
	Was in early 2016, and Trump Tower was 68 stories up in the air, a beautiful boardroom, and places loaded up with these people, and they were all excited.
	And then at the end, I said, I'd love to have your support.
	And the room went dead silent.
	Do you remember?
	It's like, I said, what happened?
	I know you like me.
	What happened?
	Well, we'd like to talk to you about it later.
	Anyway, I said, all right, but if we could leave and we'll have another meeting, maybe, but I would love to have your support.
	And there was, again, no answer.
	And I said, well, we'll figure this out.
	And I went to Paula and some of the others after.
	And I said, could I ask you, I know when I'm doing well, when I'm doing poorly, and I was doing really well.
	And then when I asked for support, it was like stone-cold silence.
	They said, we have something called the Johnson Amendment.
	That if a pastor, minister, rabbi, or imam, or anybody says anything about politics, you can lose your tax-exempt status.
	I said, you got to be kidding.
	So that's what happened.
	And they were petrified of it.
	Remember that?
	Nobody even wanted to talk about it.
	They were absolutely, they became a different group of people.
	And I pledged to them at the next meeting, we had another meeting a couple of weeks later with a similar group of people.
	I pledged to them that if I win, we're going to get rid of the Johnson Amendment.
	This was Lyndon Johnson, who had a tremendous fight with a minister from, I believe it was Houston, Houston or Dallas.
	And they didn't like each other.
	And Lyndon Johnson was a very powerful president.
	He had good power, good strength.
	He ended up being very weakened by the position.
	But he had tremendous power.
	He was a big deal maker.
	And he got that done, which is pretty amazing that he could get that done.
	Everybody fought him, but he got it done.
	He pushed it through, pushed it through Congress, where you lose your tax exempt status if you even utter a word about politics.
	And that was amazing when I heard that.
	I never heard of that before.
	And I said, we're going to get rid of it.
	And we got rid of it.
	You have got, because you're the people we want to hear from.
	We want to hear from you.
	I don't want to hear from a lot of people.
	I hear from too many people.
	You're the people we respect.
	Franklin is incredible.
	All of the people that are up here, I want to hear from these people.
	And they come from a different place than me.
	I come from a business place where there's a lot of rough people, bad people, not really religious people.
	There are some.
	But you're the people that I want to hear from.
	That's why we go to church on Sundays or we go to wherever we are to listen to people of faith.
	And it was horrible.
	I said, you mean, when I heard that, and I said to the other people, that means that you should be the most powerful people on earth, in a sense, and yet you have less power.
	And I pointed down to Fifth Avenue, which was 68 stories below.
	And I said, that means that anybody on Fifth Avenue, in theory, has more power than you do.
	And that's not the way it's supposed to be.
	It's supposed to be the opposite.
	We have to give you voices back.
	And I've given you voices back.
	And that's one of the reasons that we see upticks now, I think, in religion.
	So it's very important.
	You remember that moment when I said, I'd love to have your support, ladies and gentlemen?
	And it was like dead silence.
	I said, there's something going on.
	And we figured it out.
	We did something about it.
	So thank you.
	Thank you very much to Paula White, too.
	But upon taking office, I also ended the weaponization of law enforcement against religious believers and pardoned the pro-life activists thrown in jail by Joe Biden for San Francisco.
	You know, people don't realize about the Biden administration.
	It was a very mean administration.
	He's a mean guy, actually.
	Not a smart guy, never was, but he was a mean guy.
	No, he was a mean guy, and he knew enough about what was going on.
	He wasn't like some of the people that surrounded him on the Resolute, the beautiful Resolute desk in the Oval Office.
	They were stone cold, meaning.
	But Joe Biden and the Biden, they were mean people.
	What they did to people, what they did to J6, what they did to so many people, they were mean people.
	These were really radical, horrible people.
	And he wasn't that way 20 years ago.
	He was never the brightest bulb in the ceiling, but he was a man who wasn't overly mean that I saw, but boy, he became really mean.
	And his administration was one of the meanest we've ever had.
	And that's why they're out of here.
	And people, they're having a hard time getting jobs.
	And that's the way it should be, because they were bent.
	They did tremendous disservice to this country, including allowing 25 million people from jails, from prisons, from mental institutions, drug dealers.
	All over the world, they entered our country from jails.
	The prison population of Venezuela was emptied out into our country.
	And that's what we're doing now.
	I spent so much of our time, Tom Holman and the people that have worked on this so hard.
	You know, Christine Noam, all of them, they've worked on it so hard.
	It's like an unforced era.
	And to allow people into a country who are truly, there are evil people.
	We're all people of religion, but there are evil people, and we have to confront that.
	I just give my love and hope to the family of the young woman who was stabbed this morning or last night in Charlotte by a madman, a lunatic, just got up and started, it's right on the tape, not really watchable because it's so horrible, but just viciously stabbed.
	She's just sitting there.
	So they're evil people.
	We have to be able to handle that.
	If we don't handle that, we don't have a country.
	And I created the first ever Department of Justice task force to eradicate anti-Christian bias.
	And for those people that are a little bit naive or not well read, there is a tremendous anti-Christian bias.
	We don't hear about it.
	We don't think about it.
	You hear about anti-Semitic, but you don't hear about anti-Christian.
	They have a strong anti-Christian bias, but we're ending that rapidly, I will tell you.
	It's a whole, we're in a much different world today than we were one year ago.
	This is like the first.
	And to support parents' rights, we're fighting, as you know, for school choice, which most people want.
	Most people want it, I'll tell you.
	Dan was responsible for getting it along with the governor of Texas.
	They got it in Texas, and we helped you a little bit.
	They needed about 20 votes from the legislature.
	He said, could you make a phone call to whoever they were, the legislators who I like a lot.
	But they were about 20 votes short, and they had been for about 10 years.
	I said, all right, let's give it a shot.
	So I gave a big talk to the, who were they, Senators.
	We were House members, but you also helped us defeat about 16 anti-school choice people.
	That's right.
	We defeated a lot of anti-school choice.
	But anyway, he got it done.
	So congratulations.
	But as part of our tax cuts, we've created a massive tax credit for school choice scholarships so that you can send your child to a school that shares your values and you get tax credits and all sorts of good things happening.
	And I'm also taking action against anti-Semitic and anti-Christian bias in our institutions of higher learning.
	You've been watching that play out.
	They're making very substantial settlements.
	And Leo's involved and Pam Bondi's involved.
	We've launched.
	You know, we're getting hundreds of millions of dollars in settlements, Pam.
	And Leo called me up, sir, you can do better than that.
	I said, what am I going to do?
	I'm going to get one way.
	He really likes it.
	But he always said, everyone else says, that's amazing.
	Except for Leo.
	He says, sir, you could have gotten more.
	Oh, good.
	Thanks, Leo.
	But we've launched sweeping civil rights and Title IX investigations into more than 60 colleges going on currently and universities to stop their violations of civil liberties and First Amendment freedoms.
	And, you know, we're involved very much in Harvard.
	That's one that people seem to be reading about more than others.
	We have many going.
	And other than having a radical left judge, we have a very radical left judge.
	But, you know, the appellate courts have been really good to us.
	So you go before some of these judges.
	No matter how good a case you have, you can't win.
	But we've had a lot of them, but we've done very well at the appellate level.
	And the case of Harvard, we have an absolute radical left judge, disgraceful.
	I should not even be there.
	But we're doing very well with Harvard, and we're doing very well with all of them.
	And where we don't win at the lower courts, which sometimes we do, in some states we get a very fair shake.
	In other states, it's not even possible.
	But we've done very well at the appellate level and at the United States Supreme Court.
	But this includes an unprecedented $200 million payment from Columbia University.
	Columbia paid us $200 million essentially in fines and penalties.
	But many more settlements are soon to follow.
	And they're going to be behaving because they understand we're coming back.
	They would not let you have your voice.
	They wouldn't let the people in this room, any of them, have the voice, because that's not the voice they wanted to hear from.
	They wanted to hear from a very sinister voice.
	And we're not going to allow that.
	In recent years, we've seen far too many violent attacks perpetrated against Americans of faith, beautiful Americans of faith, including in our schools and places of worship.
	And you know about it more than I do.
	Two weeks ago in Minneapolis, a demonic killer shot 21 people and murdered the two precious children at a Catholic school.
	Can you believe that?
	Hard to believe.
	And time goes by, and people say, oh, I sort of remembered.
	I remembered.
	I'll always remember it.
	What a horrible thing.
	Too many happens too much.
	Our hearts are shattered for the families of those beautiful children.
	And I've made clear that Attorney General Pam Bonnie is working really hard that we must get answers about the causes of these repeated attacks.
	And we're working very, very hard on that.
	The Trump administration will have no tolerance for terrorism or political violence.
	And that includes hate crimes against Christians, Jews, or anybody else.
	We're not going to allow it.
	And there was also a horrible killing recently in Charlotte, I talked about, and so many others.
	And we will, we're going to get to the end of it.
	And, you know, when you have horrible killings, you have to take horrible actions.
	And the actions that we take are nothing.
	This cashless bail started a wave in our country where a killer kills somebody and is out on the street by the afternoon.
	In many cases, going out and killing again.
	Cashless bail.
	And you try and reason with people like in Chicago with the governor and the mayor.
	You try and reason with them.
	And then it's like you're talking to a wall.
	It's just doesn't.
	I assume it's just a political ideology they're not stupid, people must be an ideology that's just buried in their head and you can't do a damn thing about it.
	And we'd love to go into Chicago and straighten it out.
	You know Washington DC, you'll be happy to know, is a free and safe zone.
	It's so safe right now.
	It was...
	It was one of the most dangerous.
	Can you believe it?
	So you know.
	You see the beautiful buildings, but we're going to also do an upgrade because a lot of the beautiful buildings have a little graffiti on them.
	They have roads that aren't proper.
	They have meet-ins that are bad and falling down into the road, the dividers.
	We have things that we have to take care of and beautify.
	We want to beautify.
	Very little work will be done.
	I'm very good at that.
	That's what I really did, the best in life, probably.
	I said, was I a better builder or politician?
	They said, I think you're a better builder, sir.
	I didn't know if I was happy about that or not, but I was a really good builder and I'll fix this place up for peanuts.
	I'll fix it up, we'll fix, we'll put in new dividers.
	All the avenues are all rotted, rusting and falling down on the road potholes all over the place.
	We're gonna have this place looking beautiful within 12 months.
	Even the little white tiles in the tunnels.
	You know, you go through the tunnels and there's the little white tiles have been up for about 60 years and like there's pieces missing and you can't match them.
	Believe me, you can't.
	You try and match them, it never works.
	You can't.
	They've been up 60 years.
	You don't get the same batch no matter what you do.
	But we'll take all those tiles off and you're gonna have beautiful white tile tunnels again and everything's gonna be really the way it should be.
	Because when foreign leaders come, you know I had to take down the tents.
	We had over 58 tent cities that we took down right in the middle of our parks, right next to our great Building, Supreme Court.
	You'd have a tent city right there and nobody would ever tell them to to do it.
	We had a blue tent right on Lafayette and they seemed to have a permit and one of the fake news media was asking me the other day, what about the blue tent?
	What blue tent?
	Because all the tents.
	Somehow these people were very well connected with the communist cause and I said there's a tent up there really yeah, and he was a friendly reporter for a change.
	He said it's terrible that the tent.
	I said I didn't know that i'm surprised.
	And I checked and it was, and we got it down very quickly.
	It's down, it's down.
	Wasn't easy.
	People chained themselves to a tree and this and that, but that's okay, they can chain themselves if they want.
	That was a tough one.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		That's been there for years.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		It's been there for many years.
unidentified		We took it down.
		It came down very quickly, Pam.
		So I hope Attorney General Bondi will be looking into some of these things.
		And I really know that some of them she is.
		She's done such an incredible job.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		You know, she's got a lot of pressure on her not to do these things by a certain group of people that I guess don't love our country or there's some ideology that they're just indoctrinated with.
unidentified		But she's going to do a fantastic job.
unidentified		And we're waiting for a call from Chicago.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We'll fix Chicago.
unidentified		And again, D.C. is right now so safe you can go out.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Friends of mine called one in particular, he's been in D.C. for a long time.
unidentified		And he said, I haven't gone out in four years for dinner with my wife.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		The restaurants were all closing because people were afraid, even if they were in the restaurant, it didn't matter.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		They were held up.
unidentified		You know, guys would walk in with guns into a restaurant.
		And that's over.
		It's not happening.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		It's now safe.
unidentified		And this man said, I've gone out to dinner in the last week and a half four times.
unidentified		And I am so safe.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		My wife could meet me at the restaurant.
		She could walk by herself.
		There was zero threat.
unidentified		The National Guard, working with the police, working with the mayor.
		The mayor has, you know, that's not her ideology.
		And now I think it maybe is her ideology.
		She's taking a lot of heat too from the radical left.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		You know, they don't like that she's allowing it.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		But look, she's going to either allow it or we'll just do it because, you know, it's just that.
unidentified		But I can tell you, the people of DC are thrilled.
		I have never had so many people.
		The other day I had a big scrum in front of me of the press.
		And I said, you know, everybody here, or many of you, have been mugged, right?
		And they're all going like, and these aren't people necessarily on our side.
		They're all going, yeah, she says, what about you?
		Yes, it's true.
		I was a couple of times.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Every one of them.
unidentified		It's crazy.
unidentified		Not going to happen anymore.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		So right now we went from one of the most, and some people say the worst, the most violent city.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Can you imagine our capital being the most violent city, but it was really bad, into a totally safe zone.
unidentified		It's called the safe zone city.
		There's no crime.
		They said crime's down 87%.
		I said, no, no, no.
		It's more than 87%.
		Virtually nothing.
		And much lesser things, things that take place in the home, they call crime.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		You know, they'll do anything they can to find something.
unidentified		If a man has a little fight with the wife, they say this was a crime, see?
		So now I can't claim 100%.
		But we are a safe city.
		You can walk to a restaurant.
		You can walk to the White House if you work there.
		You can walk to the Capitol.
		And even the Democrats say, I can't believe it, but they don't want to admit it, but I can't believe it.
		We could do the same thing in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles.
		We did it.
		We saved Los Angeles.
		We saved Los Angeles, Dan.
		You know that.
		Los Angeles was a mess.
		If we didn't send our troops in, Gavin Newscomb would have had a real problem.
		We sent our troops.
		The head police officer, the top person, said we could have never done this alone.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We sent our troops right in at the beginning and we killed it.
unidentified		And it was nasty, but we killed it immediately, immediately.
unidentified		And I don't know why Chicago isn't calling us saying, please give us help.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		When you have, over just a short period of time, 50 murders and hundreds of people shot, and then you have a governor that stands up and says how crime is just fine.
unidentified		It's really crazy.
		But we're bringing back law and order to our country.
		And I began my remarks today by noting that the reverence for our Creator, I mean, we have reverence for our Creator.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		And it's inscribed into our Declaration of Independence, a copy of which I have very proudly hanging in the Oval Office, an original copy, very old, beautiful copy.
unidentified		Next year, we will celebrate 250 years since that declaration was signed as part of the grand.
		Well, this is really a commemoration like I think we're going to do.
		We're going to try and do a commemoration like nobody's ever seen before.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		But we've invited America's great faith communities to pray for our nation and for our people and for peace in the world.
unidentified		And it's going to be an amazing, it's going to be an amazing time.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We're going to have an amazing time.
unidentified		We have the Olympics, we have the World Cup, and we have 250, okay?
		The supercentennial, as our mandate said.
		And we're going to, it's going to be, it's going to be amazing.
		It's going to be maybe bigger than the both of those events.
		You know, when I was president, I got the World Cup and I got the Olympics.
		I got them to choose us, Los Angeles.
		And I was very proud of it.
		The only problem was I wasn't going to be president because I would have served out normally in my time.
		And then you had some very bad people who rigged an election.
		And look what happened.
		I ended up getting the Olympics, the World Cup at 250.
		It's amazing the way God works.
		Isn't it amazing the way God works?
		It's true.
		I got the Olympics, you know, because I'm a little bit of a selfish person, I guess.
		I said, you know, I got the Olympics, and Obama would not call.
		I'll never forget the head of the Olympic Committee called.
		And the mayor of Los Angeles called me and he said, sir, the president will not talk to them.
		You know why?
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		Because he traveled to Geneva or wherever to make the presentation, and he came in fourth.
unidentified		Now, a president shouldn't do that.
		A president should say, I will do that.
		I will make that journey, which has never been made before.
		But if I make that journey, you have to pick me.
		He didn't do that.
		That's why we had a country that was going to hell because he didn't do a lot of things like that.
		So he ended up sitting there and they announced that we're fourth.
		We were like almost last.
		And so he didn't like the Olympic Committee too much.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		So he refused to talk to him.
unidentified		So I get a call from the mayor of Los Angeles who said, please, sir, would you call?
		We're ready to get it.
		And I spoke to a gentleman, and I believe it was Geneva, whatever, wherever they are.
		And I couldn't get him off the phone.
		He was so dying for love.
		He finally got something.
		Anyway, and he agreed that the Olympics would come to the United States.
		And I was so proud of it.
		And then I realized even then, I said, I'm not going to be the president.
		And then the World Cup, we got the World Cup.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		I did that one too with Johnny and got the World Cup.
unidentified		And I said, I can't believe it.
		Can you hold it a little sooner, sir?
		It's all given out at all these different places.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		So I wasn't going to get that either.
unidentified		And now I got them both.
		And I can't say that I created 250.
		That one is that one we have.
		I'd like to say I created 250 years.
		I can't say that.
		But we are going to create a great party and a great celebration.
		And I'd like to ask a very good friend of mine, Secretary Scott Ferdinand, to come up and say a few words about some of the things we're doing.
		And Scott, please, take it away.
		Well, good morning.
		So grateful to be here.
		What an honor it is to stand with this commission and with our president.
		Young, we're in the nation's capital.
		We're at the Museum of the Bible.
		We're together, and we're talking about faith.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Did anybody else pick up on that?
unidentified		I wouldn't want to be anywhere else.
		We're right here.
		So thank you, Mr. President.
		It's an honor to serve under your leadership, sir, and to be a part of this tremendous cabinet.
		How many know we have a godly, faithful cabinet and a cabinet that prioritizes prayer.
		On July 3rd, Mr. President, of this year, you kicked off the year-long celebration of America's 250th birthday in Iowa.
		You invited America's faith communities to come together to pray for our country.
		Well, Mr. President, America's faith communities are responding with overwhelming enthusiasm, as you can see here today.
		Today, more than 70 major faith organizations and churches have joined together to participate in what we're calling America Praise.
		In fact, many of you are here today, including leaders from Pray.com, Hallow, the National Religious Broadcasters, the Faith and Freedom Coalition, Intercessors for America, and many, many others are here with us.
		And I want to take a moment.
		If you are here today and you have joined this faith movement, America Plays, please stand if you're here this morning.
		Please, if you're here, stand and let us see you.
		Amen.
		Thank you.
		Well, together, we have our simple proposition.
		Think about this.
		What if one million people pray for our country every single week between now and next July 4th?
		More specifically, what if believers all across this great nation got together with 10 people, friends, family members, colleagues, work associates, 10 people each week to pray for our country and for our fellow citizens?
		Let that sink in.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		One million people every single week.
unidentified		Ten people getting together to pray for our country and for her citizens.
		Think about the miracles that would take place over the next year.
		Think about the transformation that you and I could witness in communities all across the land.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Sons returning to their fathers, daughters returning to their mothers, families coming back together, health being restored, financial needs being met, mountains being moved.
unidentified		Think about it.
		If a million of us every week got together and prayed for this great country, how many know that God is well able to do it?
		Amen.
		We're a nation that has always believed in the power of prayer.
		During a constitutional convention when our founding fathers, and many of you know this, were discussing the formation of our country.
		Benjamin Franklin stopped the debate and asked the delegates to pray for guidance from the Lord God Almighty.
		He famously said, If a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid?
		How many are grateful that God put that on the heart of Benjamin Franklin on that day?
		Prayer brings restoration, it rebuilds what has been broken, it ignites an indescribable power of hope within you and within me.
		It's a light that's felt by all of those in whom we intercede and pray for.
		And you've all heard faith leaders across the country quote 2 Chronicles 7, 14, which says, if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven.
		And I will forgive their sins and will heal their land.
		On behalf of President Trump and ultimately the Lord God Almighty, who calls us to pray without ceasing, I'm inviting all Americans to pray with unwavering faith for the renewal of our nation and our fellow citizens.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
unidentified		All-American, will you all stand with me as we rededicate America to one nation under God?
		Father, we thank you for this time that we have together.
		Lord God, we thank you that we can gather together as faithful people, as faithful leaders, as denomination leaders, as religious leaders.
		Father, we thank you for our President, Donald J. Trump.
		Father God, who you have anointed and appointed for this time, for such a time as this.
		Lord, thank you that the President prioritizes prayer.
		Father God, that he sees the power, the importance, the priority of praying together as a people, as a country, as a nation.
		Father, we in this place today, in this great museum of the Bible, Father God, we lift up our president.
		Lord God, we lift up his family.
		We lift up God, our vice president, our cabinet, and everyone, God, who serves in this administration through all branches of government.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Father, help us to be godly men and godly women.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Father, help us to surrender to the power, to the presence, and to the will of God.
unidentified		And Lord, we pray this morning as we commemorate, Father God, as we call our nation to pray.
unidentified		Lord God, as we rededicate our nation to one nation under God, Father, we pray for your forgiveness.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		We pray, Lord Jesus, that you would give us great favor and understanding, Father God, as we bow our knee before you, as we humble ourselves before you.
unidentified		Lord God, we thank you that starting even right now, that families will come back together.
		Sons return to fathers.
		Daughters will return to mothers.
		Healing and revitalization will take place.
		New life will come to our nation.
		And Father, we're so grateful that we've been standing in the nation's capital as a people of believers in this great institution.
		Lord God, in the presence of God Almighty, by the power of the Holy Spirit, Lord Jesus, we humble ourselves.
		We thank you.
		And God, we know that from this day until on that great day, July 4th of 2026, when we celebrate 250 years, that Lord God, from now to then and forevermore, you will be glorified and honored.
		And Father, we pray for a sweet celebration.
		And Lord God, that all people of all faiths, Father God, will come together.
		Lord, not just Democrat, not just Republican, but all American people will come together under the banner of Yahweh, of God Almighty.
		And Lord God, we praise you and we thank you and we love you in Jesus' name.
scott turner ▲ ● ▼		Amen.
unidentified		Amen.
		Thank you, Spirit.
		Thank you very much, God.
		So America has always been a nation that believes in the power of prayer.
		And we will never apologize for our faith ever, ever, never, never.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We will never surrender our God-given rights.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼		We will defend our liberties, our values, our sovereignty, and we will defend our freedom.
unidentified		And with the help of amazing faith communities across the land, so many are represented with us today.
		We will truly make this the golden age of America.
		That's what we're doing.
		We're in a golden age.
		We're at the very beginning of a golden age.
		So much progress has been made in the last eight months.
		Progress like nobody's ever seen before.
		They're writing about it.
		They're actually saying it.
		They've never seen anything like what's happened in the last eight months.
		And together we will make our country greater, stronger, more united, and more faithful than ever before.
		Thank you.
		God bless you.
		And God bless America.
		Thank you very much.
		I see.
		To break our vice chair.
		Let me take it.
		Dr. Ben Carson.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		What a way to start a week.
unidentified		Dr. Peter Navarra live from the White House talking about trade and throwing down hard, as only Peter Navarre can do.
		And then the President of the United States at the Religious Liberties Commission today given anything but an amazing speech and then some of the personal testimony.
		The young boy, incredible about what the, and that's what the school look at look at what the school made that kid do.
		President Trump going to set things right there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Just absolutely, absolutely incredible.
unidentified		Couldn't be prouder of the president.
		Just a great day, great morning.
		What a way to kick off.
		That was over at the Museum of the Bible.
		Our own Jack Pasobic was in the audience.
		I'm going to try to track down Jack.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		If not, I'm sure he'll give you a full read out at 2 o'clock.
unidentified		Maybe we came back here at 5.
		Just, and hey, is that not what you voted for?
		President Trump, right there, going to make sure that Christians are not discriminated against and that throwing down hard, not enough people will step up and have the back of Christians.
		And I mean, Christians won't stand up.
		They're like intimidated.
		President Trump's not intimidated.
		So much going on here in the nation's capital, in the imperial capital.
		Number one, let's talk about budgets and midnight on the 30th.
		I think the reality, you're going to have an unpleasant choice because the work hasn't gotten done.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They took six weeks off to go on the holiday or vacation.
unidentified		I know they were back in the districts working hard.
		But my understanding is that you're going to be facing two choices.
		I guess three.
		They could shut down the government.
		But if they do shut down, if the Democrats do shut down the government, President Trump and I think Russ Vogt and others have a plan about You've got essential personality, you've got non-essential.
		I think the non-essential are getting bottom-blown.
		And you want to talk about deconstructing the administrative state?
		That's the way to do it.
		Is to get rid of literally, because remember, there's 2.5 million civilians, employees, there's 2.5 million roughly uniform, and then there's about 5 million, I don't know, consultants that are at the level of actually making some sort of administrative or managerial decision.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So that's about 10 million people overall.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They covered a lot by having so many of those consultants or non-permanent employees working.
unidentified		That's option one.
		Option two is they are working on an omnibus.
		And right now, we're going to focus this week on the NDAA, National Defense Authorization Act, which I continue to ask: why is this a must-pass bill?
		Because they don't authorize, they're supposed to reauthorize these other departments X amount of years, normally I think five.
		They've never reauthorized EPA.
		I don't think they've reauthorized the Justice Department.
		Why don't they want to reauthorize?
		Why do they just kind of skip it and go right to appropriations or right to a budget?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Because they understand that these things have had mission creeps.
unidentified		These institutions, cabinet positions, et cetera, have had mission creep, and now they're covering so much.
unidentified		It's the power of Scott Bessant's Scott Besant's amazing piece in the Wall Street Journal, I think on Saturday morning, came out Friday afternoon, and then it was in the Journal of International Economy, 27 pages long, where he goes through in detail breaking apart the Federal Reserve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That has not gotten the coverage that it should have.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Number one, the media does not want to talk about it.
unidentified		One of the ways they keep power here is the central bank.
		Scott Besant first cut of his restructuring of the Federal Reserve because he said the Federal Reserve has suffered from gain of function, gain of function issues.
		They've essentially weaponized the central bank against the people of the United States as Fauci would use gain of function to take these viruses and weaponize them, determine the biological weapons of which you know from the COVID-19 got visited upon the American people through the Wuhan lab, through the Chinese Communist Party.
		So your two alternatives, if you don't shut down the government, are going to be an omnibus, and they may have a cute name for it, but that's going to be presented to you.
		An omnibus takes you all the way through the fiscal year, but is just packed with horrible things.
		One thing on the NDA they're trying to slip in is an artificial intelligence amnesty.
		All those demons that were around the president's table the other night, foisted on him by David Sachs and others, are absolutely outrageous.
		I believe the president, I've asked my staff to cut, I think he made a comment in there about Biden's administration, but people had come after him.
		And he said, I think, quote, they're not getting any jobs, if I heard that correctly.
		Somebody's got to tell the president, Lisa Monaco, who essentially ran the Justice Department, put Peter Navarre in prison, put me in prison, but more importantly, came after President Trump.
		All the attacks of President Trump from Maine Justice came through her.
		She was the deputy, she was the deputy attorney general of the United States.
		She's at Microsoft.
		She's at Microsoft as general counsel.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They got to turf her out of there.
unidentified		Mr. President, if you're under the understanding that these people are not getting jobs, that just would not be correct.
		The folks around you, particularly the tech bros, are not informing you because you had Bill Gates, Not, you know, Bill Gates in vaccines after Bobby Kennedy gets eviscerated that day in the star chamber that was the Senate with people that had taken millions of dollars, and it was tens of millions when he added all up historically the whole crowd trying to go after Bobby Kennedy.
		Well, Bill Gates is right there, and Lisa Monaco now is the general counsel of Microsoft.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That is a big league job, big league job.
unidentified		She's got to be turfed out of it or should be turfed out of it.
		Your other alternative, so take this one on board.
		Your other alternative, because they haven't done the appropriations.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The other one is wait for it, a CR.
unidentified		When your best options are sitting, now this is a CR with rescissions.
		And as you know, these rescissions have gotten in pocket rescissions, particularly where they don't go back to Capitol Hill, which is the moral equivalent of impoundment, has people on Capitol Hill because here's their argument: well, we cut all these deals and we work so hard and we have bipartisan agreement on the appropriations.
		And then the president just comes in and essentially just takes out what he wants to take out.
		You damn right, because you guys have not cut spending.
		My understanding and great belief is that on the 30th of September at midnight, the deficit for fiscal year 2025, which is the one that we're in, will be about $1.8 to $1.9 trillion.
		Now, I said it was going to be two.
		Hey, close, but we'll see when it's all added up.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I'm sticking with two.
unidentified		That's my number.
		They're saying it could be 1.8, but even a 1.8, you can't.
		And remember, we accepted Biden and Nancy Pelosi's math.
		At least this would be President Trump's math.
		But my understanding is it's going to be a $2 trillion potential deficit in a fiscal year 26, which is the one that starts October 1st.
		Why do we spend so much time on this?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
unidentified		Let me think about this for a second.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Maybe inflation.
unidentified		Maybe, you know, spending, what, $1.4 trillion now in interest payments on the debt.
		Maybe it's because of the Bricks Nation.
		Maybe it should cause the weakening of the dollar.
		Maybe it should cause the gold's on a run.
		All of those, because gold's been a hedge against this.
		You can't continue on like this, but if you do the 1-9 and the 2, right, that's what, 3-9-4, you get, you understand, you start to understand whether the debt ceiling was kicked up $5 trillion.
		At some point in time, somebody's going to have to say, stop.
		Where you stop, to stop, you must start.
		And where you must start is the defense budget.
		If you do the defense budget, if you do the defense budget, we can then make the argument and get hands around the social welfare programs.
		And eventually, when you prove to the American people that you are responsible, you're taking care of that, then you can get into a conversation about the entitlements and start redoing laws on that, right?
		To make sure it's equitable and fair and all those sorts of things.
		But you can't even have a discussion on that.
		And you shouldn't have a discussion until you prove that you can do something with discussionary spending.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me go back to the NDAA and defense spending.
unidentified		Huge article in Politico and Everywhere of how Bridge Colby, Bridge Colby has written this defense policy statement, which is essentially the overall strategy coming from the Joint Chiefs of the Defense Department of the United States.
		When we took the White House the first time, President Trump said, hey, the global war on terror is no longer our top priority.
		Taking on the Chinese Communist Party is, and of course, the apparatus had to throw in Russia.
		So great power struggle, although Russia was not, I can tell you, was not a priority at the time as much as the Chinese Communist Party.
		Chinese Communist Party is still running the deal, and they're running the deal with the Russians right now because they help finance them, they give them weapons, and they buy their oil and natural gas in huge output deals.
		And now they're actually financing the Siberian gas and oil fields.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		I pull today's, Monday's, Financial Times of London, and lo and behold, look at that headline right there.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Russian energy giants turn to China for fundraising as economic ties grow.
unidentified		Right?
		The Chinese Communist Party has been financing this.
		Of course, up there also is the Prime Minister of Japan.
		Is resigning.
		Why is he resigning?
		Oh, wait for it.
		Failed economic policy.
		Deficit too big as a percentage of GDP.
		What's happening today in France or tomorrow in France?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wait for it.
unidentified		Another government's going to fall.
unidentified		It's a parliamentary system.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		The parliamentary government's going to fall.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Macron's still going to be there as president, but he may even get forced into a new election.
unidentified		Why are they doing it?
		Oh, wait for it.
		7% GDP, deficit to GDP, not sustainable.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		They're collapsing.
unidentified		Great Britain, Starmer's approval now, I think is in single, I think 11% maybe going to single digits.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why?
unidentified		Oh, they just found a $50 billion hole in their budget, 50 billion pounds maybe, that they didn't think about.
		So eventually somebody's going to have to get grips on this.
		One way the Rust vote and those guys are doing now is rescissions.
		Now, they're relatively small.
		In fact, they're tiny.
		They're dropping the bucket compared to the problem, but they show that they're prepared to do more.
		That's why you either have a CR, and I don't see getting to 60 votes, but hey, so you either going to have a CR, which this audience hates, I understand that, but it'll have rescissions attached, or there'll be an omnibus, and we're going to have to fight that because I think there's going to be enough goodies in that for the Democrat senators.
		They're going to say, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll get on board that.
		We'll get on board that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		That's what we want.
unidentified		Either way, there's going to be a fight coming up.
unidentified		And what's the downside of shutting down the government?
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Force the Democrats.
unidentified		Because then you've got essential, non-essential.
		And if you're not essential, you've got to have a discussion of do we need this?
		Because right now we should just be financing the essential.
		When I talk about the essential, to go back to the NDA, Bridge Colby writes this strategy paper about hemispheric defense.
		And everybody in Politica, oh, they're talking about the homeland and abandoning the rest of the world.
		That's not what they're saying, and that's not what's happening.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But they are saying hemispheric defense.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We have to take care.
unidentified		It's kind of Monroe doctrine on steroids.
		We have to take care of the hemispheric defense and the vast Pacific that connects our territories in the Western Pacific to us as the strategic pivot.
		And you've got from the Panama Canal to Greenland, you've got the Arctic.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Oh, by the way, you've got this is the situation happening in Venezuela right now.
unidentified		And I think that needs some clarity.
		People are working through it.
		But they're saying, and this is the difference.
		President Trump, when he talks fentanyl, he looks at that as a chemical weapon of the Chinese Communist Party.
		Not just something coming through a cartel, not just something they're making money on, which is bad enough and he wants to stop.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		So kinetic activity against the cartels is something that's part of hemispheric defense.
unidentified		Now, if you're talking about regime change in Venezuela, that may be a different kettle of fish.
		Because regime change that doesn't come from the grass, doesn't come from the country's grassroots.
		You know, decapitation leads to problems as Iraq and Afghanistan have shown us.
		That it has to be really driven by the will of the people in these countries.
		This is why I keep saying, hey, if the Moolah's are a deal, just cut them off from the oil.
		I still think it's almost 80%.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Maybe with Russian oil now, it's not as high, but I think at one time it was 80% of the CCP's energy needs, their energy needs were coming out of the Persians.
unidentified		Straits of Hormuz can be in the Gulf of the Persian Gulf and the Straits of Hermuse easily blockade, easily you can stop and turn those vessels around.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		And you do the black market that they get about half of it from the Moolahs.
unidentified		First off, you literally shut down the Moolahs.
		You'll have the Persian people overthrowing themselves, which is the way it has to happen.
		You can't do a decap.
		That's why I'm so adamantly opposed to this getting involved in another war.
		And for Israel and for the Jewish people, hey, the threat from you is coming Sadiq Khan in London and Mom Donnie in New York City.
		That's the threat.
		And Mom Donnie is going to win unless something changes dramatically, unless they start to expose his financing sources of Qatar.
		Birch Gold.
		And I'm reminded by the engine room, it's not just gold.
		If you take your phone out and text Bannon, B-A-N-N-O-N, at 989898, you get a free and ultimate guide for investing in precious metals.
		That's gold, silver, and others in the age of Trump.
		And the engine room is telling me, don't forget silver.
		So, hey, don't forget silver.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		But check it out today.
unidentified		We've told you about gold.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It's not the price of gold.
unidentified		It's not just it's been on a run.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Why has it been on a run?
unidentified		That's why we do the end of the dollar empire.
		Four years we've been putting this out.
		Been dead spot on about it.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Short break.
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		Julian Barbary, now more than ever, credit card debt, I think, is 1.2, 1.3 trillion.
unidentified		I think there's 8% to 10% non-performing.
		If you get a notification from your credit card company or you get your monthly bill and you're late behind payment, if you just put it in the drawer, do good things happen, ma'am?
		No, that's a negative.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		Can't wait for you guys to come to the West Coast, by the way.
unidentified		You know, this is, you were talking about the deficit.
		Perfect timing for done with debt to come on today because the average American is struggling.
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		And when something disastrous happens, it could be, in my case, it was cancer.
		It could be divorce.
		It can be many, many things.
		If you don't have that big, beautiful nest egg aside, you're in trouble.
		So what we at Done with Debt say is do not pay another bill until we consult with you.
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		They are master negotiators and they will rally around you right away.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		The phone calls stop and the nasty letters that you're getting.
unidentified		That stops.
		And then the real work begins as they negotiate for you.
		As you know, Steve, the banks, all of these institutions have their little rules and games that a lot of Americans don't know about.
		But Done with Debt, they're an amazing team.
		They had a huge party out here on the West Coast recently.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		I went to.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		It was so much fun.
unidentified		And they're great people.
unidentified		So I got to meet them.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		They want to help the average American.
unidentified		I just happen to be lucky enough to be a spokesperson because I have no shame in what happened to me.
		At the drop of a dime, some people can lose everything.
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		So, Steve, you know, real quickly, what I want people to understand, don't think that declaring BK, people say, oh, you just declare BK.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		It ain't first of all, not that simple.
unidentified		Two, it sticks with you for a while.
		Don't take it from me.
		Talk to the done with debt folks because they'll walk you through a bunch of alternatives.
		But people just sit there and go, if I get so far behind, I can just declare BK and then they give me new credit cards.
		The bankruptcy sticks with you, but you got to talk to the professionals.
		They give you a free consultation.
		Where do they go, Jillian, right now to get the free consultation?
		DonewithDebt.com.
		And they do not push for bankruptcy or big conglomerated loans.
		They are trying to wipe you out.
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		And sometimes they'll get you on a plan.
		But either way, that negative cloud over you will start to disappear.
		They're master negotiators.
		Thank you so much, Steve.
		And thank you.
		Thank you, Jillian.
		By the way, you're going to be my co-host when we come out to the West Coast.
		We're announcing it now, Jillian Barbary.
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		Thank you, ma'am.
jillian barberie ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		One of those West Coast gals, donewithdebt.com.
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		You need to talk to those folks.
		Just do not put the credit card notice bill in the drawer and think it's going to go away.
		Mike Lindell, you've had those problems in the past.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		You worked through them.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼		We just had the religious commission today.
unidentified		President Trump addressed it.
		Sir, did not our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, turn your life around?
		Absolutely.
		I was saved actually February 18th, 2017.
		Everyone's going, wow, that's not too long ago.
		But yes, I was, in fact, I told the president, this was last week.
		We're in the Oval Office.
		And he was saying, he goes, Mike, when you got set free of all your drugs and everything, how did you do that?
		And I said, I prayed to God to release me of the desire.
		I woke up the next day and the desire was gone.
		So with God, all things are possible.
		And look what he's doing, working through our president and getting all these great things done.
		But so it's been pretty amazing, Steve.
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